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Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio commis a myth and bullshit, a radio

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Speaker 1: phonic novella. Local Radio hosted by Malamo Olalla. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to local Radio, Loca Mortis, Welcome back. This is Ma

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Speaker 1: La and this is Diosa and we are last look

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Speaker 1: at Radio recording once again at Radio Espacio and boil Heights.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Local Radio is a podcast

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Speaker 1: archiving the brilliance and legacies and geniuses of women and

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Speaker 1: firms of color. As always, you know you can listen

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Speaker 1: to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Audio Boom, Visit us

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Speaker 1: at Local Landia which is our YouTube channel, YouTube dot Com, Slash,

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Speaker 1: look at Radio um and as always you know where

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Speaker 1: Instagram at look at Underscore Radio and also Twitter at

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Speaker 1: look at look at Underscore Radio. We're also on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: We're everywhere, but 'all know what to do. You'all know

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Speaker 1: how to find us. And last time on radio was

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Speaker 1: our firm Defense Capital and we interviewed Malayo, Wilson Green

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Speaker 1: and U. Today we're gonna business as usual. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a bunch of things and then for

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Speaker 1: the second half of this we're gonna have Alejandro Bablos.

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Speaker 1: She's a nationally recognized immigrant rights activists and reproductive rights

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Speaker 1: activists based in Washington, d C. And she was recently

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Speaker 1: detained by Ice and held held at Eloy Detention Center

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. She's also a part of the organization. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a really incredible interview with Alejandra Fablos, and

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Speaker 1: we're extremely, extremely, extremely grateful that she's taking the time

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Speaker 1: to call us. She's actually calling us from Virginia. Um,

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Speaker 1: she'll be calling us from Virginia to have this conversation

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Speaker 1: about her history, her story, her time in an immigration

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Speaker 1: and support. Yes. Yes, So before we get into that interview,

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Speaker 1: we have some updates that we want to share with

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Speaker 1: our local Motives. Dates are listeners. So if you've been

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Speaker 1: following us, if you've been keeping up with us on Instagram, Facebook,

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Speaker 1: and Twitter, personal I g s and everything, you know

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Speaker 1: that we have our very first local live and podcast party.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited. So what chall don't

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Speaker 1: know is that this event has been in the works

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Speaker 1: for months. For a while, we've been we've been plotting

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Speaker 1: really been working on it. Like this morning, we got

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Speaker 1: so funny because I was like, Ma, La, let's get

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Speaker 1: do it. Probably why we didn't meet up until like

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Speaker 1: But it was funny because it was like we didn't

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Speaker 1: think I think we're in our rhythm now that we know,

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Speaker 1: like we need at least forty five minute for some

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Speaker 1: grace period. Schedule ourselves. We have to light ourselves and

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Speaker 1: it works. So this morning um Mala and I met

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Speaker 1: we were doing some flyering putting our flyers out there,

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Speaker 1: party Local Live, a podcast party, will be at Civic

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Speaker 1: And very very special detail about our life show is

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Speaker 1: family in a year, and then it's something else entirely actually, right,

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Speaker 1: we have a second question. We do have a second question.

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Speaker 1: That was a good question. That was a good question,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Um. We were really prepared to let we

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Speaker 1: had we didn't have our answers prepared. Basically normally normally

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Speaker 1: a lookas is like the answers that come off the

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Speaker 1: top of our head, like we have the questions picked

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Speaker 1: and then we're like, all right, let's answer them anyway.

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Speaker 1: So this question is about UM post grad depression slash

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Speaker 1: transitioning after undergrad and if we have any advice. So

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Speaker 1: first off, shout out to all of our listeners, all

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Speaker 1: of our local motives that are graduating this year. Congratulations, Congratulations,

435
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Speaker 1: you did an amazing thing. UM O super heard of

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00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: the people. And I want to shout out our listeners

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Speaker 1: that UM brought us out to universities and are graduating.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Karen. She just I believe she just walked

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Speaker 1: yesterday from USC. Shout out Sasha just also walked from USC.

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Speaker 1: And UM, Natalie, all these women from USC's y'all are

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Speaker 1: doing the damn thing. Natalie, UM, Shout out Natalie. She

442
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: actually interviewed us for her honors thesis and she UM

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Speaker 1: had her back gloriate mass yesterday. And you are listeners,

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Speaker 1: You guys know that we've been in a number of

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Speaker 1: theis No, we've never talked about that. Let's put a

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Speaker 1: pin in that. We'llcome back later anyway, So shout out

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Speaker 1: Natalie because she actually was the speaker at her back

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Speaker 1: glory at math yesterday and miss Tina Lawson was like,

449
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: think like the keynote or something. Yeah, so she got

450
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Speaker 1: to speak an amazing company. So congratulations sinatally, congratulations to

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Speaker 1: all of our listeners, any University of Oregon heads that

452
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Speaker 1: are graduating this year. Shout out to all of you.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to UCSC students. So our I guess this

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Speaker 1: is our pearls of wisdom for post grad right, what

455
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Speaker 1: what how was your postgrad experience coming home? Because we

456
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: both went away relatively right, Okay, um post grad? Um.

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Speaker 1: I actually got a job immediately, so I didn't feel

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Speaker 1: that like kind of like waning, like you know, because

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Speaker 1: the applicate when you're applying for jobs postgrad, it's so daunting,

460
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Speaker 1: it's horrible. Um, I was. So when I graduated in June,

461
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: I still worked at my university until August September, so

462
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I still had had my job, was still making money,

463
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Speaker 1: and I was applying so that was still kind of rough,

464
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: like getting the no responses. And then I feel like

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Speaker 1: when you graduate, when you're a senior, like you're getting

466
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Speaker 1: these awards, you're getting these recognitions, and you're feeling like unstoppable,

467
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Speaker 1: and then you're met with like all this rejection and

468
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, cool, you've got a degree, all right,

469
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Speaker 1: Well you need to have at least ten years of

470
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Speaker 1: experience before I can hire you. So it's kind of

471
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Speaker 1: a reality checking away. And I guess my wisdom, my

472
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Speaker 1: pearl of wisdom would be, um, if it's possible, if

473
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Speaker 1: it's possible, be present in this downtime that you have,

474
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Speaker 1: and UM, it's really hard, especially if you have anxiety,

475
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Speaker 1: to like really be present in the moment, But just

476
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Speaker 1: if you can just try and think of maybe something

477
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Speaker 1: new that you can start also while you're applying, whether

478
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Speaker 1: that be um, like you know, a new hobby. I

479
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: talk about new hobbies all the time, right, but like

480
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Speaker 1: finding a new hobby, I feel like it's just really

481
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Speaker 1: helpful when you're in these transition times because that transition

482
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: unknown is really a source of anxiety and source of

483
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: fear for so many people. So if there's a way

484
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: that you can channel it into something new, I feel

485
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Speaker 1: like that that you'll feel better, you know, That's just

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Speaker 1: my idea. Agreed. When I came back from college. Since

487
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: I went to college in Massachusetts, all of my college

488
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: friends were on the East Coast. All of them were

489
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Speaker 1: very few who were out here in l A. So

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Speaker 1: I dealt with that postgrad depression, where where are my friends?

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Speaker 1: And like my friends from high school, you know, like

492
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Speaker 1: I don't keep in touch with many of them, and

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Speaker 1: they keep in touch with a couple of people from

494
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Speaker 1: high school. Um, and like it was hard for me

495
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Speaker 1: to find a job. I was unemployed the whole summer.

496
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: I got into a lot of shenanigans because when I'm board,

497
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: I take to the streets and I'm doing you know

498
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Speaker 1: with my friends who are here like you know, doing

499
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Speaker 1: whatever at the time. But my I I volunteered right

500
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Speaker 1: away because I couldn't find a job right away. So

501
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Speaker 1: that's how I got State certified as a rape crisis

502
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Speaker 1: counselor advocate. I volunteered for a year on the the

503
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Speaker 1: Rape and Battery Hotline while I did like jobs at

504
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: after school programs before I really settled into like my

505
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Speaker 1: full time advocacy work. So I also volunteered at inner

506
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Speaker 1: city Arts like. I did a lot of volunteering because

507
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Speaker 1: I was like, I have to get out of the house.

508
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Speaker 1: I can't stay here, So I volunteered at and our organization.

509
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I volunteered as a as a crisis counselor, and those

510
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: things lead to opportunities and led to jobs. That's amazing.

511
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Speaker 1: So you know, my volunteering as a crisis council crisis

512
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Speaker 1: counselor directly translated into a full time job at the

513
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Speaker 1: same org. So that's my advice. My other advice is,

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Speaker 1: like the city that you're in now you're When you

515
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: left your hometown, you were what like nineteen, now you're

516
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Speaker 1: two in your city. I got to take that time

517
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Speaker 1: and really experienced l A as an adult because I

518
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: didn't know her, know her on that level. My my

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Speaker 1: favorite bitch, Los Angeles. So that would be my other

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00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: per love wisdom. It's takes the time to get reacquainted

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Speaker 1: with your hometown because it's different now, and it's different

522
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: for you even like your hometown like if you're you know,

523
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: l A is so big, right, So like wherever you're from,

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Speaker 1: specifically in l A or in l A County or wherever,

525
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: and just in general whatever city you're from, wherever you're from,

526
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: like if you've been gone, if you've been gone, your

527
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: community has most likely changed a lot, so you know,

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00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: see what resur are out there. I think Gamala said

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: about volunteering is a really great, really great idea, and

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00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: it does it can lead to other things, other opportunities

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Speaker 1: or castera belly Rosa and and and and and and

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Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and

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Speaker 1: and and and and and and and ra and and

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Speaker 1: ra and and and and ra and and and and

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Speaker 1: um from from from from from from from of it

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Speaker 1: and little ship, welcome back. And now on the line

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Speaker 1: we have Alejandra Bablos. She is a nationally recognized immigrant,

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00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: immigrant rights activists and reproductive rights activists based in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And she's here with us today to share

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00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: her story and so all you, all of our listeners

541
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: can get to know her. Welcome. Thank you so much

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00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: for joining us. Can you introduce yourself to our listeners. Alejandra, Hey, y'all,

543
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: my name is Alecandra. Hi everyone here at the Look Radio.

544
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm actually a fan. I never listened

545
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: to you guys. That's really cool. Stop it. But um

546
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: hand and I am currently in DC right now. I

547
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: actually travel back and forth in Arizona, see Arizona being

548
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: my home base. But I don't do a lot of

549
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: work and I was an exactly I'm really excited to

550
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: be here to share my story. Thank you so much

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00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: for an inviting me. Yes, thank you, And I want

552
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: to shout out that actually connected us with you. Her

553
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: name is Jessica and she tweeted at us and said,

554
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: like local Dora, I think that y'all should interview Alejandra,

555
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: like she has an amazing story to tell. And that

556
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: was and we were like, let's just like email us

557
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: and connect us with her. We would absolutely love to

558
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: have her on the show. So once again, thank you

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00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: for being here with us. UM. And you know recently

560
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: you UM were detained by ice in Arizona. Correct, Yes,

561
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Speaker 1: that's correct. I was actually um detained by UM. I

562
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: sat my check in. I actually check in. I've been

563
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: on Ice Girl for about almost five years now. UM.

564
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Speaker 1: I was detained an Elo detention center the first time

565
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: went two thousand eleven for two years, so I've been home.

566
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: I actually um was. I let out on bond after

567
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: fighting two years in there and I lost my kids

568
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: in there, but um I came home on a bond.

569
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Speaker 1: So I've been on like Ice squirrel checkens ever since.

570
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: So I have my court. I had my court in

571
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Speaker 1: March six and on the seventh, I had to check

572
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Speaker 1: in with ICE and that's where, Um, I knew I

573
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Speaker 1: would be detained. That's correct. Wow, So I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: that you had been detained in the past neither a

575
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: long time. Neither did I. So yeah, So that's I

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00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: think that's the part that that is really important for

577
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: folks to understand that, you know, folks, criminal records really

578
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: uh follows um every person, every person here in the

579
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Speaker 1: United States, but especially immigrant folks and documented folks have

580
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: it sort of like double jeopardy. We have to go through, right. Um,

581
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: even when I was taking the tension those two years

582
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: I was charged with you know, these certain incredible fiddle

583
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: at this just last year, this administration used an o

584
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: dui against me as well and just made it really

585
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: from a little bit tougher for me to fight, right,

586
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: So that rights actively all I'm going after it, right,

587
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, And you know, I think one of

588
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: the amazing things that I saw via social media obviously

589
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: were in different parts of the US, And one of

590
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: the amazing things I saw was the way the community

591
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: mobilized for you and to for you to be free

592
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: um vias Instagram and via Twitter. Um, can you tell

593
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that experience for you, having

594
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: this community mobilized, this kind of like rapid response, how yeah, okay,

595
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: you're right forever, that's for sure, and maybe in an

596
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: organized activist Um, it's definitely a beautiful to see like

597
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the collectiveness, especially nationwide, and just how everybody responded and

598
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: actually to get a win, right, like we actually brought

599
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: me home. And I think that the pressure and that

600
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: the narrative that we had out right, Um, I think

601
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: it was contagious. And I think everybody is ready to

602
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: be talking about certain demas that we haven't paid a

603
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of attention to write. But people were really because

604
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: they knew me, right, They've known me, and they've known

605
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: the work that I've been doing. Um, they know that

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: I am a person who's had to come out a

607
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: record who has made me stay with the down person.

608
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: But also, um, all people are suing the right is

609
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: to be able to also make mistakes and live and

610
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: learn from them and move forward and pursue lives of

611
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: like dignity and respects, you know, and that's not what

612
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: being grantedulous, right, Black and brown bodies don't have the

613
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. You don't have the benefit of

614
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: making mistakes either, um, and we are you literally targeted

615
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: just for standing us for ourselves and for not be

616
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: being scared. Right. And so I'm you know, out here

617
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: like we're in l A, and out in l A,

618
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: there are all kinds of fronts where like war is

619
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: being waged on immigrants and undocumented communities, like the street

620
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: vending issue is but one, right, Um, So not only

621
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: out here like on the outside there are these attacks

622
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: on undocumented communities, but also within detention there are abuses

623
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: and oppressions that are taking place. And I'm wondering if

624
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: maybe there are like some specific issues going on in

625
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: detention centers that a lot of people maybe are not

626
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: aware of or should know about. Yeah, I think, um,

627
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna endoctately more time to talk about all the

628
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: conditions and stuff like that, but I can definitely highlight

629
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: right now that, um, you know, there's there's so much

630
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: neglect even coming from the Department of m Security until

631
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: ICE themselves. If we're not talking about actually how women

632
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: are being forced to be you know, being forced to

633
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: leave the country being recorded, but also people that have

634
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Speaker 1: already decided to take voluntary departure or already been supported

635
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: in months and months. They're waiting for travel documents, wait

636
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: for whatever has to happen as far as ICE is concerned, UM,

637
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: but still holding the women that after they they're already

638
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: been supported. So you have a lot of Ice and

639
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: glad you have women making copies of these things. Women

640
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: ready to literally sue ICE when they go back to

641
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: their country or they guess you win here, right, So

642
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: women are keeping track of all of those things. I

643
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: shared UM a lot of time with the women that

644
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: were legally helping other women and keeping copies because stuff

645
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: and how women were organizing themselves to really fight back

646
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: when they actually less dealer, right, because you can do

647
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: nothing in there. There's no all the other legal support

648
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: you have in there is really old, right. There's no

649
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: interpretation or translators helping you UM in there at all,

650
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: even when you go to orientation, when you talk to

651
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: your deportation office, so there's nobody speaking your language. UM.

652
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: The medical negligence, there's just literally no process for you

653
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: to go and seek health and feeling sick or when

654
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: you need something. Women get given, you know, they get

655
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: they get UM. They're forced to wait up like around

656
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: four thirty in the morning to go to dick call,

657
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: which the call is only available between five and six,

658
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: but you have to wake up around four fifteen and

659
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: get on standby UM to go then like if your

660
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: spirit at size pam whatever four pan, like, it doesn't matter,

661
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: you don't you don't get to go see a doctor.

662
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, you have to wait. Like so that's why

663
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: a lot of like suicides happen there too. This is

664
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: a lot of pre medical and like they're really stretched thin,

665
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: you know because most of the folks and they're developed,

666
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, diseases because of the of the like lack

667
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: of nutritious food, the lack of nutricious food, right the

668
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: two engine mattresses on metal um. You know, the stress

669
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: about being in their right watches people commit suicide and

670
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: not having any follow up also right for being witnesses

671
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: to to traumatic incidents like that. UM. Just also just

672
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: the plane UM. Lots of sensitivity, sensitivity to what a

673
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: detention center, an immigration detensition center should look like with

674
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: people coming in as rescuegee at speeking help women who've

675
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: been survived as a domestic violence, any of folks who

676
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: survive drug abuse. You know, those folks that really need

677
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: are how they need to be treated with dignity and

678
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: respect when they get treated like start the enemies that

679
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: they get treated like very poorly. So it's really unfortunate.

680
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: That is, you know, my English, my privilege, and they

681
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: really got you know, it gave me a benefit to

682
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: not be to in a certain way. But I had

683
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: to speak up a lot, you know, and I can

684
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: see how I don't know that language, Like, you're gonna

685
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: get treated really badly by the staff then, And if

686
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: I understand correctly, in immigration detention centers, technically, if you're

687
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: detained there as you don't actually by law have the

688
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 1: right to like a phone call or an attorney, correct,

689
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: like if you can access those things, right, So you

690
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: do get one call when you get there, right when

691
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: they process you, they give you one call. Yeah, they

692
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: give you like a three minute call, um. But once

693
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: in there, it's all on your own. They don't even

694
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: now they've managed to even get worse than when I

695
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: was there five years ago. Now they don't even have

696
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: a resource sheet where they used to have a bunch

697
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: of lawyers listed. They don't even give you that. They

698
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: don't even they only have one pro bono community organization

699
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: in there. Um you don't, uh, you have to wait

700
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,959
Speaker 1: if you don't have people putting money on your phone,

701
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna be able to call you know,

702
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: there's been on a legal number that you can use.

703
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: But also the women, like I said, they come in

704
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: speaking just in dialects. The women don't know what's going on.

705
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: They just think they're gonna get you know, leave right away. Um.

706
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: So it's just like not a lot of not a

707
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: lot of resources there at all. Um, nobody holding the

708
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: facility c p A accountable for these things, right they

709
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: throw they point the finger at each other back and forth,

710
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: I and B c A and blame it on the

711
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: medical contract and so forth. Um. But there's just literally

712
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: no accountability notions ferency. I never once saw the warden

713
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: or any ice officials to so I can speak to

714
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: them or maybe um you know, complain about something or

715
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: avoid anything. And I wasn't able to access none of that.

716
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: So it was really hard to hold them accountable and

717
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: to really um talk about the inhumane ways that they

718
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: were treating us, because it's just accounability. We heard jest

719
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: quessions already say they would never um, you know, watch

720
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: over what deparminent home mas Security is doing. They would

721
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: never you know, started a report on them. So they're

722
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: going grow and they're doing whatever they want. And they're

723
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: literally literally keeping our bodies for profit and in a

724
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: very kissing and and these also are facilities that detain

725
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: children as well. Correct at this particular facility, um, you know,

726
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: they don't detain minors, but they have before I find

727
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: them just means in solitary they have a little small

728
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: room where they keep them from the general population. Um.

729
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: But basically as you know, that's that's being in the whole, right,

730
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: but they have, Um, there's other detention centers specifically for miners.

731
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I know here in Arizona there is the Southwest KEEP

732
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: program that is the program that gets funded by the

733
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: Refugee Settlement Department and in the government, and they hold

734
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: an accompanied miners that are going to coming here and

735
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: finding them sponsors in the US. But at ELOI spacifically

736
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: they should not be wholly miners that are supposed to happen,

737
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: right right, It's a lot, just a lot, and I'm

738
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: sure that it's just's just like the tip of the

739
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: ice exactly. Yeah. And you know one thing, I mean, no,

740
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, I was just gonna say I need for me.

741
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: It was just really it was just I couldn't I

742
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: couldn't believe that I was there. I was just like,

743
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: I what am I here for again? For being arrested

744
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: out of protest um? You know, So this most repul

745
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: time that you were the most recent time that you

746
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: were detained and that you were just released, what were

747
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: the circumstances of that of why they even took you back? Right?

748
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: So this is the thing that happened that people set

749
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Also going back to your question that you're asking, basically,

750
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: what are folks will need to know? It's also that,

751
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: like I said, people are getting arrested and immediately taken

752
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: to immigration when immigration no down. Well at the most

753
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: quote that we got a court to go to, we

754
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: haven't even been in Sabicont to court. You know, we

755
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: haven't even been. You know. The thing about it is

756
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: here is it's a it's a the country that just

757
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: literally trust the police so much, and the police is

758
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: so credible because the rhetoric of you know, of looking

759
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: and eagles and ships that are like so it's like

760
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: once you're arrested, you're just arrested and that's it. And

761
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: we're going to take you in. But that's that's not

762
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to be. I still have to

763
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: go to court. So I got arrested and my check

764
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: in because of this arrest, but I haven't even gone

765
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: to before yet. So you're thinking I've putting in Virginia.

766
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: That's why I can court in Virginia or trust continent

767
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: obstruction with justice? Um and um, that's even a lot

768
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: of mution my thought. But I'm going to court, and

769
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm if I get to be founds, you know, guilty,

770
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: like actually guilty, like I'm afraid of being picked up

771
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: by eyes right there. And then as well, because they

772
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: are in Virginia, they already tried to result my bombs

773
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: going before, you know, so if they being arrest, why

774
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't they do it off of an actual indictment? Right

775
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Although the Virginia Locks would say that that shouldn't happen,

776
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: that's still something that organizes as people who have been targeted,

777
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: like we ought to prepare for it, you know. And

778
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: so the court is taking place in for Ginia because

779
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: this is like a federal level hearing. Yeah, well the

780
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: process the protest was in Virginia. Yeah, so I remember

781
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I say in DC, and I organized in Virginia. So

782
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: we had some of my comrades and some of the

783
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: organizations that I work with. Um, we're hosting a protest

784
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: at this new like Condestine center that was protesting folks

785
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: when this cause was really really nasty agent who is

786
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: who'd in charge of really like the most recent um uh,

787
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, break break ins into the homes and terrected

788
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: some of our folks, really actually hurting people and sending

789
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: people to the hospital. So we were their protests and

790
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: that's where we got arrested. That's where d HS was

791
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: called the polife access to leave. They had no jurisdiction

792
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: and we had you know, our people observer there and

793
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: everything and the buns. It was about forty of us

794
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: and you know, d HS had no jurisdiction to really

795
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: tell us to leave, and we were waiting for Chesterfield

796
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Poliefs and UM. I never saw the beliefs, But all

797
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: I remember is this sage as officer telling me I'm

798
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: under arrest, and I was like in the middle of

799
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: a chat and my hee was just like you're under arrest,

800
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: and UM, I definitely panicked. UM he had putting me

801
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: down on the floor and my nis were bloody girl, Ma,

802
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: they were broken. You know he was you know, it

803
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: was some aggressive act it, you know, to be broken.

804
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: And so it was. Yeah, it was really intense. And

805
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: I know that it was my sharp tongue that brought

806
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: him got back out that particular officer to want to

807
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: arrest me because he was hearing the truth coming out

808
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: of that group, you know, like when I'm on the mic,

809
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm on the mic speaking some truth and and you know,

810
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean it was to the point where asking that

811
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: he should quit his job because no one has. You

812
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: don't have to to have these jobs that I have

813
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: literally humanized people that Terra family is apart, like there

814
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: are plenty of other jobs. Um. So I think I

815
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: think it was very It was something that we weren't

816
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: expecting at all. I mean, it was not about that

817
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: where we had musio were about the Pabedians. No, Like

818
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: I know exactly how delicate my life is and I

819
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: know where I can do, but I'm also not going

820
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: to be violent. I'm not going to be great up

821
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: to my enemies that I recognize my enemies and um

822
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: and I have to and I have a mouth else. Yes,

823
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean that is obviously something we advocate for here

824
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast and um for our listeners that are

825
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: tuning in. Um, I wanna, I wanted us to discuss

826
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: what are some ways that like us folks that our

827
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: allies or accomplices to the too undocumented folks, what are

828
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: some ways that we can support folks in the struggle

829
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: or in the community that are doing the groundwork. Mhm yeah,

830
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a good question, Thank you.

831
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I think first, I mean first and foremost, I think

832
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: all of us mettle in a commony that we need

833
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: to start talking about what it means to be a

834
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: person with a criminal record, um or with the percentages

835
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and the Latino families. But we know that one in breed,

836
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: you know, um, black black man especially is going to

837
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: be in contra at one point in the life. I

838
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: know that Latinos in Arizona our skyrocketing when it comes

839
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: to uh the percentage Joseph right of Latinas that are

840
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: in it exactly. Um, So, like, what does it really

841
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: need to have to be somebody of that's the product

842
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: of the that state, right, that's the products of these laws,

843
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: and and talk about what cuminalization really looks like you know,

844
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, talk about what peace really looks like. Right,

845
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, we all got to

846
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: get together with some organization that's doing some sort of

847
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: immigrant um some immigrants you know defense words. Um it's

848
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: super crucial as you guys seen as you guys spoke

849
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: about the community organizing. That's the money that I said

850
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: to to work with lawyers, you know, like lawyers are

851
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: not gonna lawyers are not going to free as best believe.

852
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: It was my people, it was me Campis, it was

853
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: every other people who like signed the letter and wrote

854
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: some some dough back words on my behalf. Um, that's

855
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: what it got me out. That's that's the kind of

856
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: a collaboration that we need because um, it's super important

857
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: for us to be atencils like cannot in our backs.

858
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: Every place, every day probably has a detention center. Um,

859
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: if they don't have one, that's probably going to be

860
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be built one there. But when nowages

861
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: knows zero zero tolerance policy that jet Sessions just you

862
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: don't just thought about it doesn't doesn't need more jails

863
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: because um, he's criminalizing even just the entry right. So

864
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: it's really really um it's gonna be really important for

865
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: all of us to work with us new organizations that

866
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: are doing defense, butoks that are donating to bail prevail

867
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: money funds that are donating to image to both defend

868
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: um money, pay palers or whatever it is, right, So

869
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I think it's super important. And then also the folks

870
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: that works with white folks and I do this work like,

871
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't care about your doing a rapid response. I

872
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: don't care like you're doing a life I've watching all that. Like,

873
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: if you're not going to put your body on the

874
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: line that goes to anybody else who who is a

875
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: citizen and can do that, you got to put your

876
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: body on the line to literally keep us free. So

877
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: it's if we're doing the work that we're doing by

878
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, going where we're going and by fighting to

879
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: work fighting once they're literally touching my body or anybody

880
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: else they're trying to you know, literally take someone's um

881
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: into custody, like we need to protect that that. But

882
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: that's literally what we do is we're fighting up and

883
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: we're abolished us right, and we're fighting and detentions um.

884
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: All of those enemies are the same. And if somebody

885
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: will take you somebody away. We need to need to

886
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: be ready to literally defend people and to simply and

887
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: with this, with this to a level that we have

888
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: on this before, right, So putting bodies on the line,

889
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: utilizing your privilege, verage, leveraging your privileges, which are really protections. Right.

890
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: So that's I think that when we talk about like

891
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: being documented, that's a protection. I am not at risk

892
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: of being put in an immigration detention center or being deported,

893
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: Like that's just not gonna happen to me. I'll be

894
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: could be put in a jail, in a county jail,

895
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: a city jail, what have you. But I'm not at

896
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 1: risk of deportation. Um. And I feel like I heard

897
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: from I attended a statewide conference, the Statewide Domestic Violence Conference,

898
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: and Beam how Settle was there talking about um translating yeah,

899
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: shout out bamby. Bammy was doing a workshop and talking

900
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: about specifically conditions for undocumented trans Latinas right being put

901
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: in immigration detention centers with men. And one of the

902
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: recommendations that Bammy put forward was, you know, we need

903
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: to put money on people's accounts and phones who are

904
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: in detention, right so that they can make phone calls

905
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: at the very least and seek out resources. Is there

906
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: a specific way that like people can do that or

907
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: how how do we like contribute to something like that.

908
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like that's two fun life super important

909
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: to be talk about his profitings from detention centers. These

910
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: private detention centers, you can't really get into sublic information

911
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: and they're about a community organization working within the detention center.

912
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: It's really hard for me to get inside and able

913
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: to do something like that, right, so that even detention center,

914
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: for example, shout out, you got somebody fort who has

915
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: a collective of community. You're gonna say sens that get

916
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: together and go in there and visit women. They're visiting

917
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: about sixty people, but which is like out of fifteen hundred, right,

918
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: which is not enough. But they get to go in

919
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: there and they help that small percentage out right, So

920
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: fun through all of these other things and they commney

921
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: on their books and they do all these things. But

922
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: it's not it's not something we've demanded for our government

923
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: to to require from privatizing or corporations that run these jails. Right,

924
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Like we literally don't know who's in there, We don't

925
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: know who has a bond. It's really hard for prognos

926
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: a bonding hard to pay for it, right, and but

927
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: little that we know it's okay. Inside there's a really

928
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: organizations doing a little bit of astation work, right, but

929
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: they're still very limited. There is no any ory there's

930
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: not an official organization that's coming in there to doing

931
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: doing any type of support group or circle talk or

932
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: talk circles or anything like that. Right. Um, it's just

933
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: the thetat about reports are kind of coming into the

934
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: listation process and visiting one on one, like seeing our

935
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: twenty minutes busny person and that helps. So that's a

936
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: good place then for people to keep the minds because

937
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm hearing is there's no like if

938
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: somebody is locked up in a county or city jail,

939
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: there's public information and you have access to that and

940
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: you can get in touch with a person. What I'm

941
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: hearing is that in detention centers there's no public information,

942
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: no public access. You have to get in through a

943
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: pre approved organization that already has like an in there. Right.

944
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: You gotta get a background check, you gotta know if

945
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: you want to find out, you gotta find out. You

946
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: gotta look you gotta have people's A numbers. For example,

947
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're plugged in with the with the number

948
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: when we're there, and that's the A number you gotta have.

949
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I can't my mom can't even visit me if you

950
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: don't have that A number. I see. So, um, it's right.

951
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: And that's like the thing right that we're not being

952
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: able to participate in there either. Where I'm right now,

953
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure that we have a community

954
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: stakeholder tour. You know that I'm getting some domestic vialent

955
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: coaches approved to come in there and visit with some

956
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: of the women that I've met that are survivors of

957
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: domestic vivan Um. Just trying to see what what the

958
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: what you know, the lack of the gaps that are

959
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: into and how I can help build them up. But

960
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: it's time that we hold these private you know, these

961
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: like these contracts from ICE and these private corporations. Now

962
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: they're trying to call themselves cours civics. PJ wants to

963
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: call themselves coursive. It's just so they can expand on

964
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: the work that they do. But by time too, you know,

965
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: also be seen as people who who handle rehab and

966
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: you handle info monitors and like all of these things.

967
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: Because they want to see more than corporations, want more

968
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: than prisons. They expanding their businesses as they right. Yeah,

969
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean everybody literally is companying off of that, right

970
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: for at private company that does a lot of transporting

971
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: of of of prisons and jails, and you know, picked

972
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: me up and pricip a little nine year old girl,

973
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: nine year old girls at this you know, um at

974
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: that stop with the program and to some where they

975
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: hold their little kids, picked them up and took us

976
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: to the jail. You know, who's making money of all

977
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: the phone calls, all the money My mom put a

978
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty dollars and learned, I never thought that

979
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: money he's keeping that who's feeling from us? So it's

980
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, it's a lot of

981
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: people making money. But from the commentary, people from like

982
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, the hygiene, like it's just really really awful.

983
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: And the people we need to need to start, you know,

984
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: divestment campaigns that are publicing like specifically on immigration centers. Yeah, well, Alejandra,

985
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing all of this information

986
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: with us. And I know that and I'm sure that

987
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: like talking about it is not fun for you either,

988
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: Like I know that the situation has been an ongoing trauma,

989
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: so on some level, you know, like thank you for

990
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: bearing with us and going through it again to to

991
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: to educate, because what I'm basically understanding is there's some

992
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: things that you're never going to know about unless, like

993
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: you talk to somebody who's been in there and who's

994
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: been through it, right, yeah, unfortunately. Um, So I think

995
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: right now we're coming towards the end of our conversation

996
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: and I just want to ask Alejandra, you know, if

997
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: you can basically put out there and plug UM where

998
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: people can keep in touch with you, follow the projects

999
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: you're working on, and support um, you know, based off

1000
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: of this episode where they can follow you online. Astutely,

1001
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much again for letting me be here

1002
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: and speaking with you guys. I actually love talking about

1003
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: how we're gonna suck eyes and single made at this

1004
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: whole time. So UM, it's just really resussion to talk

1005
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: to other homebowks who wanted to make sure that this

1006
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: gets you know, these stories get out and stuff. So

1007
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: I think for people to to keep in um, keep

1008
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: track of what's going to be happening with my kids personally.

1009
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: And just like gut said, you know the co buck

1010
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: eyes UM situation, we're gonna be dealing with. Follow me

1011
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: Canda in Canda dot net. You there with the j UM.

1012
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: They're the ones that were helping especially on my on

1013
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Speaker 1: my on my case. I'm a member of the campaign.

1014
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm remember of a lot of different organizations that are

1015
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: really fighting and enforcement and and UM mass incorporation also

1016
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Speaker 1: follow you know the Natural Latina Institute, Certy Productive Health

1017
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: guys who I work with UM. And my personal instagram

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Speaker 1: is so Allen so it's s O R underscore a

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Speaker 1: l EV So I will always be UM. I thine

1020
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: people updated there. But I think right now, like I said,

1021
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: everybody go back home and started talking about people that

1022
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: are locked up. By giving your money to the organizations

1023
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that are bailing women out, that are literally feeling our

1024
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: women and our brothers and sisters out of there. We

1025
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: can't break down these walls. We gotta take the women

1026
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: out of there. They can't make they can't make money

1027
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: off of you if we take them out of there.

1028
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: So it's been important to to do what you can

1029
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: be a capacity, but be aware that but those are

1030
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: the things that people want to talk about. Now, we

1031
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about that. All of us want to

1032
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: get free. Yes, thank you so much, thank you for

1033
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: being here, and they think and closing, Yes, stay on

1034
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: the line with us for a little bit longer because

1035
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: we want you to introduce our closing song, our outro

1036
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Speaker 1: and explain the context behind it. So before we get

1037
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to our outshore closing song, I just want to remind

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Speaker 1: forward to it. Thank you so much, so much, Thank

1047
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: you for listening to another look at our radio and

1048
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: tuning in UM talking with Alendra and I will see

1049
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Speaker 1: you next time. Ye bye bye