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Speaker 1: And also e a gotta kick things off from the

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Speaker 1: top is Jets Fan. You gotta come to MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: this weekend, not just for Jets Jacks at one pm,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a great day. They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of legends in attendance that include Joe Namath,

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Speaker 1: Curtis Martin, Un Maynard, and a lot more. To celebrate

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Speaker 1: at halftime, fan you'll also receive a commemorative Kevin Mway

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Speaker 1: white out rally towel. That's right, it's a white out.

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Speaker 1: This Sunday, and if you want tickets, make sure to

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Speaker 1: call one eight hundred four six nine Jets once again

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Speaker 1: be a part of history, Greens. I mean Kevin Mway

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Speaker 1: of the greatest polling centers in history, the National Just

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Speaker 1: Out of the eight seasons that Mawai and Martin overlapped

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Speaker 1: A great guy. And just to be clear, you took

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Speaker 1: For joining us here on the Official Jets Podcast. Always

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Speaker 1: on your board, all right, Rich, So, Jets obviously coming

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Speaker 1: with something rerediculing what sixteen yards I think carry something

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Speaker 1: Adams his old college teammate, of course with four NETT?

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Speaker 1: I said, did he give you any tips inside or

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Speaker 1: knowledge on four net? He says, you just gotta hit

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Speaker 1: him before he gets a head of steam going. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta hit him as early as you can, because

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Speaker 1: he does have speed. For a big man for Net

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Speaker 1: can run and he's gonna I think the Jets will

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Speaker 1: play an eight man box the whole game. I think

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams will be in there. As a linebacker for

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Speaker 1: Net has faced more eight man boxes than any running

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Speaker 1: back in the league right now, according to our stats people.

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Speaker 1: So I think that will be the formula eight men

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Speaker 1: in the box. Key on four NET with this change,

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Speaker 1: what you thought about the Jets maybe a few weeks

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Speaker 1: ago if they came out with a victory here, You know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a really really good question. And I think

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think back to what I had my predictions.

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Speaker 1: I think I might have had it starting out two

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Speaker 1: and three, so I did have them winning a couple um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It depends how they If

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Speaker 1: they win, you know, do they do it convincingly? Like

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Speaker 1: last week? Like I said, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: close game. These two teams are really evenly matched. I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be a low scoring, defensive struggle,

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Speaker 1: all right. And then lastly, Rich before he let you go,

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Speaker 1: here is just what's the singular matchup that most peaks

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Speaker 1: a tough I mean, there's really that's a tough It's

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Speaker 1: a tough one. Let me see, you know, I'm just fascinated.

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Speaker 1: And I wrote about this, you know this morning. The

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams and Leonard Forbett, I just think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really key because he'll be the eighth guy in

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Speaker 1: the box. Jamal and he and Leonard you know, go

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Speaker 1: back uh two thousand fourteen. They were both freshmen at

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Speaker 1: l s U, both five star recruits. Leonard was the

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Speaker 1: So these were the elite of the elite recruits and

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Speaker 1: they went at it in practice. So I think although

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Speaker 1: one matchup, I do think there will be a lot

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Speaker 1: of collisions between those two guys. So that's one matchup.

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Speaker 1: I'm really interested loaded topic, and we can talk about

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Speaker 1: this one for hours, but I just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. Eve been covering the Jets and the National

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Speaker 1: Football League for decades. Um were an interesting spot here

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Speaker 1: in this country's history. Well, what we saw last week

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Speaker 1: on as far as the Jets coming out, uh, they

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Speaker 1: want to be want to be unified. We saw Christopher Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the team's CEO, flanked by both they forementioned, Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: and Josh McCown and Todd Bowles has said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: this should not be about talk. It should be about solutions.

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Speaker 1: But what do you anticipate happening at MetLife on Sunday

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Speaker 1: and then throughout the league? Yeah, they said they haven't

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Speaker 1: decided what they're going to do yet. I could see

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Speaker 1: a scenario where they do the same thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Christopher Johnson will be there every

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Speaker 1: week but I could see the players doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: I think with that, um, I think it was good

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Speaker 1: teams that had some guys kneeling. The Cowboys kneeled and

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Speaker 1: then locked. You know, they covered all their bases. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, some teams were doing their own things. So

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Speaker 1: it was I think from a Jet fan perspective, if

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Speaker 1: I were a fan sitting in the stands, um, look,

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Speaker 1: not everyone's gonna be happy that they even locked arms.

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Speaker 1: This is a very polarizing issue. I've seen on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and fans you know, they didn't even like that. But

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Speaker 1: I think I think, to me, I was okay with

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Speaker 1: that because it was a gesture of unity. Um. As

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Speaker 1: a football fan, I just want to I just want

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Speaker 1: to write about football. I just want to cover football.

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Speaker 1: I think fans just football is an escape. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to go to a game on a

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Speaker 1: Sunday and be like, deal with all this heavy stuff.

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Speaker 1: And this is very and serious stuff too. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not minimizing what's what's at stake here, but I

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Speaker 1: think I just want to you know, football, it should

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Speaker 1: be fun, it should be entertaining and hopefully we could

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Speaker 1: get back to that. Yeah. Well, said ESPN's Rich Somini

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Speaker 1: in the studio for the first time on the Jets

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Speaker 1: Official podcast Network. Thanks so much, Thanks, appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 1: As always, Rich to Meini a wonderful job. Next week,

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Speaker 1: I believe the chat Pennington will be back on the

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Speaker 1: Official Jet Podcast game preview. Rich. Always lovely to have

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Speaker 1: him on the show. But something that I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you, you know, well, you know the Syracuse guy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta give him a something I do. House connection

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Speaker 1: is stronger than ever that that is a fact. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Something that I asked Rich, that I'd like to ask

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Speaker 1: you is what is the single matchup that you're most

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Speaker 1: interested on seeing on Sunday when the Jets try to

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Speaker 1: even up their record at two and two, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to Josh McCown against the Jaguars number one NFL

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Speaker 1: ranked secondary ken McCown keep it going, spread the field,

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Speaker 1: play turnover free, and give the Jots jetson opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be in a fourth quarter game against Jacksonville. Would be

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Speaker 1: great if they blow them out, But let's just say

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Speaker 1: if it's a tight game. Because I like having McCown

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Speaker 1: here operating the controls for this offense against the Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: team who has not played a close game in two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. Things operate a little bit differently when you're

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Speaker 1: in a tight game House jack and we're going to

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Speaker 1: react to that. But this is a great challenge for

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown and John Morton and company. But I am

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Speaker 1: so thoroughly impressed by the Jet Veterans signal caller John Morton,

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Speaker 1: which Rich talked about, and then quarterback coach Jeremy Bates

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Speaker 1: as well. You mentioned something that I'm gonna tie into,

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Speaker 1: weave into my point here is that the Jaguars have

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Speaker 1: not played in a close game in two thousand seventeen. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to maybe not conversely, I'm gonna say in turn,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. I was curious about this last week with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the same thing. Votes for the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Ken Blake Bordles lead this team to victory through the air.

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Speaker 1: No Allen Robinson, which means Alan Herns and Mark Easley

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Speaker 1: are the top options. Mercedes Lewis, of course, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: his vertical or his red zone threat six six. I'm

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Speaker 1: curious to see who lines up on Mercedes Lewis, Is

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Speaker 1: it Damario Davis? Is it Darren Lee? Is it Jamal Adam? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think it's one and you could double team and

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Speaker 1: at times too write. So I'm very curious to see,

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Speaker 1: let's say again the Jets formulas to stop for net

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Speaker 1: it comes to fruition ken Blake Borders, who only through

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Speaker 1: for two forty yards last week. Mind you, he had

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns. Can he lead the Shacksonville Jaguars team to

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Speaker 1: victory in a close matchup. I'm very curious whoever's plays better,

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Speaker 1: you know, rightfully. So we're focused on number on games

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Speaker 1: on both teams because both teams want to have some balance.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you, what quarterback is gonna have

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Speaker 1: a better afternoon? That's gonna tell you who wins this

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Speaker 1: ball game at the end of the day. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens on Sunday when the Jets try to even

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Speaker 1: up their record at two and two against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta remember that's Sunday halftime. Kevin Y Jets

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Speaker 1: legends will be in attendance. That includes Joe Namath, Curtis Martin,

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Speaker 1: Don Maynard, many more. Kevin Y well deserved and getting

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Speaker 1: sixty eight up there in the Ring of Honor. And

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Speaker 1: if you're going to the game, you're gonna receive a

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Speaker 1: commemorative Kevin Y white out rally towel. Also a good

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Speaker 1: time to remind you to where your white The Jets

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Speaker 1: were green and white, but where your white jerseys? It

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Speaker 1: is a white out. You want tickets, make sure to

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Speaker 1: call one eight hundred four or six nine Jets once

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Speaker 1: again one night hundred four six nine j e t s.

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Speaker 1: Before we let you all right here e a final question.

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Speaker 1: What is your favorite Kevin Mawai memory? I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: asked poetically about what may was able to do on

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Speaker 1: the football field, how he revolutionized the center position, how

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Speaker 1: tremendously athletic he was, how he was a waller, but

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a guy who stood in one place. He

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Speaker 1: was a guy the Jets used to get out on

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Speaker 1: the edge and spring Curtis Martin free on the perimeter.

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Speaker 1: So let me go off the field. I'll go to

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Speaker 1: Kevin and talk about him as a leader and my memories.

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Speaker 1: My first year with the Jets was two thousand one

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Speaker 1: September eleven, but everybody rallied together and one thing that

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Speaker 1: I remember Kevin is that he staunchly got up in

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Speaker 1: front of the media and said, it's not right for

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Speaker 1: us to play this week. It's not right for us

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Speaker 1: to go out there and play an NFL football game,

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Speaker 1: and he put himself at the front of that. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was the proper um tone, the way he

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Speaker 1: dressed the situation. Our city was devastated, and it just

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Speaker 1: showed me Kevin his connection to people, and he was

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Speaker 1: also so tremendous off the field with his charitable works

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Speaker 1: as well. But for me, it was September eleven, two

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Speaker 1: thousand one, and how the Jets reacted and how May

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Speaker 1: as a leader reacted, and that guy will be inducted

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Speaker 1: into the Jets rain model this Sunday once again. Eric

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Speaker 1: Allen and Ethan Greenberg here on the Official Jets Podcast

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Speaker 1: game preview. Make sure Sunday again Jets Jags one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to wear your white. Make sure to eat

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Speaker 1: your food not at halftime, because that's when Kevin will

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Speaker 1: be inducted into halfway. Make sure to get your stuff

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Speaker 1: from forehand. We'll see you Sunday in your wife