WEBVTT - Trump’s Bloodbath… The First Step 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.640 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeart Radio and 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:07.440 partnership with Recent Choice Media. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:08.520 Welcome Home, y'all. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.800 This is episode eleven of Native Land Pod and where 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:18.400 we give it to you here straight, no chaser. We 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.880 are your political group chat Tiffany Cross and Welcome home y'all. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.360 What's going on? Coh a group chat now though, Yeah, 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.360 wead a political group chat. That's how we talk like. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.080 People feel like they're part of the conversation. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.319 I thought we were in I thought we were in 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.440 a living room on a couch, and then everybody else 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.479 is kind of just you know, in the room with us. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.240 Well, we are an actual group chat. I gotta walk around. 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.599 We're back too, I get that too. We are so 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.159 we do for the viewers. We do have an actual 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.000 group chat. Where is the three of us and we 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.400 talk all day throughout the week. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.120 But when we are here on this. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.080 Podcast, we want you to feel like you're part of 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.160 our political group chat. Sou they're really I mean you guys, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.720 tell me if you disagree. There really is no difference 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.800 in what we talk about or how we speak on 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.080 this podtrasts versus when we're. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:02.560 Not on screen. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.120 I used a couple of ninjas. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.679 I might throw a tantrum here in there if angel 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.360 I will say this, If Angela does throw a tantrum, 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:11.640 it is on our. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.040 Behalf, usually in advance of one of them. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.800 That's how I feel. I've never felt don't you and 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.560 don't do that? Yeah, exactly. I love you, guys, exactly. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.000 On this week's episode, we're going to talk a little 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.000 bit about political violence. This ain't nothing new to black folks, 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.959 but a lot of folks were talking about it, and 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.960 so we went a weigh in with that as well, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.360 but also a more important issue, we're going to take 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.800 a deep dive into you guys. Remember how Republicans were 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.319 patting themselves on the back talking all about the First 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.200 Step Act. Well, this week the Supreme Court felt a 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.360 fatal blow to a key piece of the First Step Act. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.120 And we're going to get into that on this show. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.160 And what would we be without your viewer questions? So 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.320 we're going to be tackling all your viewer questions. I 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.960 can't wait to hear them. We'd like to be surprised, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.360 so we hear them in the moment. And I know 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.560 many of you have been waiting with baited breath for 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:03.960 my take on March madness. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.800 Don't let you down. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.959 We are going to get into that as well, and 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.200 the words of Migos, let's walk it like we talk it. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.480 Give me that beat. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.440 Before we kick off this week's show, I do want 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.040 to turn it over to my amazingly brilliant colleague, Angela, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.359 who is so smart off the dome. But she does 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.560 have something that she wants to address from last weeks show. Angela, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.080 what you got? 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.080 I messed up, y'all. I'm sorry. 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.360 So last week we were in this very heated discussion 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.000 about executive powers to pardon. There are many states where 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.640 the executive does contain that power to pardon individuals, but 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.680 in Georgia, they do have a five member board that 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.800 is appointed. My nose is about to run in this moment, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.040 but I'll get through this. And it's not because I'm 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.520 crying because I'm wrong, although that is likely as well. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.120 But they have a five member board. They are appointed. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.200 They can determine men that someone should be pardoned, but 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.000 it is only after they serve a portion of their sentence. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.640 So I apologize for the misinformation. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.120 We definitely try really hard to be factually accurate, So 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.760 I apologize for that we are moving right along. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.079 Thank you, Tony flat. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.680 Well, I'll just say this, You're a brilliant, brilliant person, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.400 and I appreciate your willingness to clarify this. But you know, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.320 for the viewers, I just want you to know we 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.640 deal with a lot of this stuff. As we're in 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.079 the conversation. I can't predict what Angela is gonna say 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.200 or Tip's gonna say, and so it requires really being 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.320 at the ready. But apology accept it if that's what thinks. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.360 You know what Andrew for that, I just want to 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:40.480 send you some level. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:42.240 Think. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.560 Okay, can I just tell them you they keep harassing 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.960 me because you guys can't see this, but on their 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.360 when they make a heart motion with their hands, they can't. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.000 They won't see it on this feed like all these hearts, 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:55.520 all their hearts. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:56.080 Come through on their screen. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.000 They can do fireworks and I have a pre gentrified 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.960 version of our feet and I don't have any of 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.480 these effects, and they keep going it in my face 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.840 and their big fancy gingrified penthouses of what they do. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.040 Poorly resource speed. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:12.520 I ain't got no fireworks, no hard We'll put this 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.240 up on a social clip. So y'all can see what 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.679 I'm talking, but I'm left out anyway, Moving right. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:25.400 Along, China now is building a couple of massive plants 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.159 where they're going to build the cars in Mexico. And 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.960 think they think that they're going to sell those cars 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.960 into the United States. You're going to not hire Americans 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.359 and you're going to sell the cars. Now, We're going 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.919 to put a one tower on every single car that 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.400 comes across the line, and you're not going to be 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.600 able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.640 if I don't get elected, it's going to be a 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.080 blood bath for the whole that's going to be the 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:51.840 least of it. It's going to be a blood bath 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:53.640 for the country that'll be the least of it. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.320 All Right, So the reason why we're playing that sound, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.839 I'm sure you guys heard this sound a lot in 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.240 the echo chambers, and we wanted to weigh in here 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:07.480 because political violence is definitely not something that's new to 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.480 our community. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.280 But you know, Donald Trump's. 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.000 People have said that he was talking about the economy 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.839 when he says that, But why might we think that 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.120 he was inciting political violence? And we're not here to 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.280 say what he was saying we want you all to decide. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.440 But the reason why we might think that, take a 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.400 listen to some of his previous violent rhetoric. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.080 I don't know if I'll do the fighting myself or 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.680 if other people will. Maybe he should have been roughed up, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.920 because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing. If 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.880 you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.440 the crap out of him, would you, seriously, I'd like 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:46.840 to punch him in the face. I'll tell you try 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.320 not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:50.720 in court. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.160 Don't worry about him. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.200 In the good old days, this doesn't happen because they 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.760 used to treat them very, very rough, and when they 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.239 protested once, you know they would. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:01.880 Not do it again. 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.240 So easily we've become weak. We become weak, and you 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.720 know what, the audience swung back, and I thought it 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:13.000 was very very appropriate. The audience hit back, And that's 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.679 what we need a little bit more of now. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.400 Part of the problem, and part of the reason it 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.720 takes so long, is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:22.159 Right. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:23.880 I don't know if I would have done well, but 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.479 I would have been out there fighting folks. I don't 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:27.839 know if I would have done well, but I would 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.800 have been boom boom boom up beat. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.560 Do you plan on paying for the legal fees of 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.400 this older gentleman in North Carolina who sucker punched the protester? 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.760 From what I understand, he was sick sticking a certain 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:42.159 finger up in the air, and that is a terrible 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.280 thing to do, and in front of somebody that frankly 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.640 wants to see America made great again. It's possible you 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.280 could help him with legal fees if this man needs it. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.159 I've actually instructed my people to look into it. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.520 Yes, I want to think Mashable offer that clip as 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.920 they collected the various times that Donald Trump actually has 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.320 unquestionably call for violence. So, Andrew, you were a candidate, 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.320 you were on on the trail, Come on, what do 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.880 you make of this kind of the response necessary? 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.720 Could you imagine if I was running for governor to 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.000 state of Florida and just sort of let it flip? Now, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.840 I get he may have meant something different in one context, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.600 But but you just showed the video Mashable. You know, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.320 Mashable's video of repeated times. I mean, I remember back 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.680 in twenty sixteen, the brother walking up those stairs and 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.840 the dude, oh, the guy coming, Jimmy just laying in 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.160 one on him, and then Trump, you know, take it easy. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:38.440 But if you got to go to court, you know 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:43.400 you're in the in the video, I'll defend you. Yeah. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.119 The truth is all his supporters have been the ones 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.520 defending him in court and all of his legal fees. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.160 But the political violence that this man insights, I can 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:57.440 understand how it could very easily be construed that, you 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.720 know that he's saying that if he loses the election, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.880 it'll be a blood bath, and that relating to something 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.120 like a January sixth style deal. Now, I also received 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.560 that that wasn't the context of at least a sentence 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:13.440 at that time. But in truth, y'all, this guy, he 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.080 signals to us every day how dangerous he is. And 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.760 I'm just not sure what infuriates me is I'm no 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:25.080 longer surprised by anything he does. I am, however, dumbfounded 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:30.760 how it is that his supporters are so irresistibly unmovable, unshakable, 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.160 and dying in their loyalty to this dude. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.560 Yeah, I'm not surprised, honestly, And my issue with this 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.800 Angela is you worked on Capitol Hill, so you know 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.320 there are over thirty law enforcement agencies here who you 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.320 know addressed January sixth. That is not the case for 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.120 municipalities across this country. So we talked about Governor Gretchen 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.240 Whitmer in the attempted kidnapping plot against her before. We 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.559 know political violence all too well. You know, from the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.400 summer of nineteen nineteen the state sanctioned violence. So this 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.200 is not something when we hear this kind of rhetoric, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.080 it makes me nervous. 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.440 Yeah, I think there are several things. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.920 One is anytime I hear him say anything that sounds 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:16.560 remotely violent, it just is very triggering because to your point, 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.360 I did work on Capitol Hill, and on January sixth, 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.920 I was frantic trying to find all my loved ones, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.760 my people, my chosen family on the hill. And I 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.800 think if you don't have that context and you don't 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.720 know what it's like to you know, I can't find Latrese, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.840 who worked for the Speaker. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:33.920 I haven't talked to Hope. 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.960 I'm texting Congressman Thompson and Congressman Carson and Congressman Batty 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.440 and Vince to make sure you know every not Vince, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.800 Vince wasn't there yet, but making sure everyone was good. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:44.920 It was Kyle. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.640 And the other thing that I would say is it's 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.199 maddening to me that folks think, like, oh, he's a 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.000 good guy, we just take it out of context. He's 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:56.320 been doing this since he you know, got a full 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.400 page I add out in three New York papers against 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.960 then what was the Central Park five, but now we 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.400 know them as they exonerated five, including a New York 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.080 City council member. He's been doing this, calling for the 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.760 death penalty, you know, calling Colin Kaepernick s ob like. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.360 These are the things that he does, and he functions 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.360 as his own wing. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:26.000 Of Russian disinformation and misinformation by like tapping on the 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.200 pressure points that exist that are divides between us and them. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:32.560 And I think that is what makes me upset. The 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.720 other thing that's really frustrating is, as you know, we 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:38.160 started this show with a fact check, Donald Trump is 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.079 allergic to facts. He speaks and whatever he let's come 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.680 he allows to come out of his mouth, he just goes. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.520 It doesn't matter. 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.000 And the folks who are beholden to him, I'm not 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.720 talking about the people that are on the fringe. But 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.160 like his D hive, right right, like his D hive, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.240 he is going in and they are like, yeah, let's go. Well, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.040 here's the thing. He called for a hundred percent tariff 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.320 in that clip clip that's just as violent as the 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.800 bloodbath portion. Why because most industrial goods have a tariff 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.120 of two percent. One hundred percent is unreal. And he 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.760 sells people on a dream that he has no intention 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.480 of ever seeing come to pass. And in fact, when 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.199 he gets there, you're going to be You're the pawn. 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.840 Now you're gonna be the one on. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.680 The chopping block. And that is the part that's most frustrating. 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.439 He will say whatever is necessary. We've talked about it 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.840 on this podcast. Yeah, that they that they didn't pay for, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.959 that we would have had to pay for. It's all 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.600 of these things, and it's really really frustrating to watch. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.280 But I think our responsibility is to ensure that even 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.480 when he's out here saying the dumb stuff that ends 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.560 up getting his crew all hype, we still got a 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.800 responsibility to play the full thing. And even with the 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.000 full thing, it's not better. There's no such thing as 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.040 one hundred percent tariff, Playboy, you. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:12:01.520 Know, what that, Tiffany, Well, I think that the scary 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.720 part because you said it sort of scares you, and 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.920 I guess all of us none of us are surprised. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.600 We know what the man does. What does scare me, though, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.480 is I'm looking at a hearing on television right now 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:19.800 where they're going after the Biden, you know, son again 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.840 and are attempting now to use the lovers of government, 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:30.000 the lover the lovers of power to track down their 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:34.040 political opponents. And they have co conspirators who are willing 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.640 to tote that water on Capitol Hill. I'm talking about 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.840 real consequences if you refuse to go and test before Congress. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.439 The fact that this man is in you know, the 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.600 Trump guy's going to jail down here in Florida. Navarro 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.440 is going to jail down in Florida. Can you imagine 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.600 what they could do if they had a president and 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.360 even a slim majority or just a slight minority in 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.839 the Congress, How they can weaponize our tax dollars and 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.120 the institutions of ultimate power in this country to go 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.280 after people who they don't like for no reason at all. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.760 That scares me because I've been on the other side 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.800 of that that frightens me because it has the veneer 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.080 of legitimacy when all it is is a hit job, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:17.840 a government. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.680 Sanctioned hit job, but not that you're paying for. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.120 And we're paying for it, and the person, the people 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.800 who find themselves in the cross hair, they pay for it, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.160 doubly right. They don't get to see the redeeming value 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:29.360 in that. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.040 Yeah, I think what you both have brought up too 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.199 are really interesting points, Angela from a policy perspective and 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:41.200 yours Andrew from this a political retribution perspective. And mind 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:46.800 that I'll punctuate actual physical, bloody violence. Do you guys 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.640 remember when a bunch of black folks got so sick 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.880 of living in this country and being oppressed by four 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.960 hundred years, and they got so upset that they stormed 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.520 the capitol and tried to take over and overthrow a 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.640 whole I don't remember that either, because we have never 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.800 done anything like that. And when angry conservative whites are mad, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.120 it is a danger to us. All we can look 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.880 at just there's a theory that everything repeats itself every 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.840 hundred years, and we look at the violence in nineteen nineteen, 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.280 the summer of nineteen nineteen, what happened to black neighborhoods, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.240 black folks, and and you can look at Tulsa, Angela 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.480 and I are friends with Do Mario. Those black folks 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.040 in the Greenwood district weren't bothering anybody, they were just 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.600 living and it was anger for that. So for me, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:30.760 I'm literally even though I still haven't thank you, but 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.360 I take your points on policy and political retribution, but 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.760 I am literally concerned just about throwing knuckles about violence industrys. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.520 You know, we should do a pod on many uh 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.960 mini pot on gun ownership, maybe because I do worry. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.400 I literally worry if you're an elector in Colorado or 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.760 if you're a ballot count in Georgia, like the two 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.200 black women we heard testify, and you are getting confronted 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.440 with actual violence, what do you do? 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.400 How do you live your life? So it's very. 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.440 N didn't even have to always come in physical form, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:06.720 right as we mentioned the violence, Yeah, the terrorizing of 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.200 those women in Georgia, the terrorizing that happened here in Florida, 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.480 where the governor decided to go after people who thought 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.280 that they had their rights restored, and deputies government law 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.480 enforcement showing up at three o'clock at three a m. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.840 In the morning, banging on people's doors like they just 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.520 robbed the bank and murdered everybody in the bank when 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.600 they took the money. No, they showed up, and they 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:32.160 showed up at that time to terrorize people. This is 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.360 what I mean by using the levers, the legitimate levers 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.920 of power, the legitimate powers of the state, to then 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.600 weaponize them and turn them on an individual or on 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.400 a community for political purposes, for political gain. There was 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.480 nothing to be reaped by what Dissentis did in this 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.960 state other than to say, if you think you're going 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.880 to have the nerve to go out there and register 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.720 for your vote and then have the audacity to then 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:04.680 go and actually cast that vote, man, let me tell y'all, 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.840 I'll put the state on you. And that's exactly what 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.320 that they've done. And it is fatis, it is violent, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.760 it's terror and it's and it's meant to be a 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.760 shot over the bow that anybody who looks like you 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.880 and thinks that they can perform the same way, let 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:20.960 this serve as a lesson. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.920 Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what it's meant to. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.640 That's actually how law enforcement inflated their numbers at the 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.120 turn of the century, they were it was fine to 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.840 be a black person, to hang a black person, to 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.960 kill a person, but you had to be wearing a 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:35.960 badge while you did it. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.360 That is state sanctioned violence. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.840 Speaking of that, I want to shift us to criminal 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.040 justice reform. So don't go anywhere. We're going to take 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.560 a quick break. On the other side of this break, 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.200 we're going to take a deep dive into what happened 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.280 this week that dealt a devastating blow to the First 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.720 Step Act, and we'll have devastating consequences on millions of 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.520 black votes. So don't go inwhere We'll be right back. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.480 So big news out of the Supreme Court this week. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.040 First hours, just hours after the Supreme Court gave Texas 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:14.920 officials permission to pretty much jail and prosecute migrants who 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.000 are crossing the Southern border, they were given them them 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.560 who are crossing Southern border without authorization, and Appeals Court 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:28.080 late Tuesday blocked the state from enforcing this very controversial law, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.439 which is you know, again, as black folks were all 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.440 too familiar, it's almost borderline vigilante law. The law allows 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:38.800 state officials to arrest and detain people they su expect 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.760 of entering the country illegally. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.200 That's very subjective. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.239 Of course, this invites the inevitable racial profiling, as well 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.600 as detentions and attempted deportations by state authorities, more state 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.800 sanctioned violence, and in Texas, Latinos represent forty percent of 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:58.480 the population. This is Republican Governor Greg Abbott run amok. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.400 You heard a lot of this in the news, rightfully, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.080 so this is a big law. But what you didn't 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.920 hear a lot about is another ruling the Supreme Court 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.040 issued which will have devastating consequences on many black folks. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.359 This is essentially a blow to the First Step Act. 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.040 They essentially have taken away a judge's ability to override 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.560 mandatory minimum prison sentences. Now as background, the First Step 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:28.520 Act sentencing reform components would shorten federal drug sentences and 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:32.680 expand the judicial what they call quote unquote safety valve. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.080 This is a provision that permits judges to deviate from 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.040 mandatory minimums, use common sense essentially, and impose more lenient 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:44.800 sentences in some cases involving none violent drug offenses. The 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.919 Supreme Court essentially did that, Angela, you pointed out this morning, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.040 we have quite an interesting person who led the descent 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:54.760 on that and that. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.960 Is yes, Actually, the majority opinion in the Pulsifer versus 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.520 the United States case was led by Alena Kagan, who, 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.800 as you all may recall, was a Barack Obama appointee. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:12.879 The First Step Act was originally introduced as Criminal Justice Reform, 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.679 bipartisan support. Even the Koch Brothers were on board with this. 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.560 While Barack Obama served as our president, the bill did 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.120 not see its way across the finish line, but through 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:27.639 the efforts of folks like Hakeem Jeffrey, Cedric Richmond and others, 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.680 this bill did pass Congress and was signed into law 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.840 by Donald Trump. So Alena Kagan, and I'm happy to 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.639 go into what the issues at point in at issue, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.120 what was that issue in this case if we want to. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:43.960 But yeah, she led the opinion. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.280 Well I just misspoke when I said leading the dissent 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.520 majority of people at the majority opinion, Yeah, which you know, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.800 again we have to focus on judges the same way 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:53.360 the right does. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.080 She was, you know, an Obama pointee, which is which 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.960 is interesting. This is I first just want to make 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.760 it clear to the viewers. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:05.919 If you guys don't mind how mandatory minimums impact our community. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.640 This is something that we really haven't heard a lot 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.480 about since the nineties, and this is not the first 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.520 time that's happened. So in May you may recall, and 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.080 this is my challenge with the media. In May twenty seventeen, 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.399 Trump tweeted out that he may have secret recordings of 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.720 his conversations with James Comey. James Comy was the former 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:26.720 FBI director at the time who Trump had just fired, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.359 and so it was a flurry. The media just rushed 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.200 all over this. This was breaking news all. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:33.280 Day for days. 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:38.600 On that same day, then Attorney General Just Sessions rescinded 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.879 an Obama era rule which told federal prosecutors to avoid 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.800 charges for low level drug offenders. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:44.399 This is the. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.439 Challenge when the media does not there was no breaking 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.280 news for that, even though this would impact tons of us. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.000 So I just am happy to have this discussion with 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:57.199 you guys, because this is devastated Black people for generations 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.320 when mandatory minimums were introduced in the eighties and ninety these. 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.480 So Angela, if you do, if you're if you're available 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.040 to break down the Pulsifer case and what was key 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:07.640 at issue. I think that's equally important. 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:12.560 Yeah, the main issue is the safety valve requirement. Pulsifer 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:18.439 challenged whether or not the legislation meant and instead of or. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.680 And Polsifer's argument was that the legislation meant or these 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:23.440 three conditions. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:24.640 It was or or or. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.040 So the conditions were the defendant does not have more 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.439 than four prior criminal history points with an exception for 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:35.639 points incurred from one point offenses his argument. Or the 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.639 defendant does not have a prior three point offense his 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.960 argument again, or the defendant does not have a prior 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:46.640 two point violent offense. If you read those three conditions, 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:51.120 they sound like ours. They don't sound like An's. Alena 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:57.320 Kagan's opinion. The majority opinion decided that all of those 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:01.200 are and so in order to qualify to be released 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.800 from prison under the First Step Act, you would have 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.680 all of these would have to be met. Every single 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.760 one of the conditions would have to be met. They 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:11.000 interpreted the legislation passed by the House and the Senate, 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.800 the bill signed into lawn by Donald Trump, as these 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.000 three conditions have to be met in order for you 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.359 to be released from prison. So I just want to 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.159 shout out in the defense because there's also a surprise 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:22.760 in the descent. 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:24.640 I apologize. There's also a surprise. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:31.960 Justice Soda Mayor expected Justice Katanji Brown Jackson expected Neil 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:36.879 Gorsich led the descent, and that is a Trump appointee. 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.760 And so I'm curious to understand why there was any 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.400 descent here at all. That it's clear that if you 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.400 take away the oars, then you take away the discretion 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:48.679 of the judge, which is the entire point of the 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.800 First Step Act Andrew. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:55.520 All fifty states in DC have mandatory minimum laws. This 0:22:55.560 --> 0:23:00.080 has also led to the overpopulation of prisons. Angelie, you 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:01.960 know know the folks over at Rock Nation, they've done 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.320 some great work on holding the line on Parchment prison. 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:07.280 Great documentary by the way, You guy should check it 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:14.920 out if you haven't. But this is let Yeah, that's 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.560 the name of the documentary, Exposing Parchment. Yes, so please 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.520 check that out. It's an amazing guy. It's hard to 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.879 get through, but it's necessary. But consider how they have 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.800 funneled so many black people, disproportionately black men and boys 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.520 into these prisons. This is a devastating policy that is 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.960 bringing back. The pendulum is swinging and I'm concerned when 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.639 you have somebody like Ron DeSantis heading a state, andrew 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.480 about what happens in Florida, you just talk to us 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.840 about people being arrested for voting. 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:46.160 This is very and it's the truth is is that 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.160 there are more dysanticists who don't get as much press, 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.240 who are in these executive positions, really all across the country. 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.120 And while people like Donald Trump are loud and proud 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.800 and big distraction, we sometimes those of us on the 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.560 consumer side of the information, you know, we make it 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.399 out to be about Trump did this, Trump did that. 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.399 But please know that when these kinds of decisions come down, 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.800 I attribute Trump to them as well. When we have 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.040 governors who show out like Rohn de Santis does, he's 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.440 as much of a threat to democracy as we deem 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.400 Trump to be a threat to democracy. And this the 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.640 decision here always causes me to think about, well, who 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.399 are the bedfellows here? Who are the who are the 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.560 people who stand the most to gain when you keep 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.200 more people locked up and keep people locked up longer. Well, 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.879 you got the prison industrial complex, the folks who are 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:49.480 building these things, the caterers who provide the meals in 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:55.040 these respective prisons. When you let when you let more 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.800 people out and fewer people are serving crimes for what 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.479 are most folks? And I believe you got sound from 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:05.120 the Vice president talking about folks being criminalized in spending 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.240 time in prison for marijuana. You've got folks spending time 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.159 in prison who have never been convicted found guilty of 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.600 a crime. In fact, in most local jails, in prisons, 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.639 that's the majority population. They're awaiting their time before a 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:21.840 judge and a jury. And while they're there, we're keeping 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:26.080 somebody in business. So I always like to think, follow 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:30.080 the money. Who stands to benefit Who at the intersection 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.280 of this stands to benefit the most by putting more 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.679 people in prison and keeping in prison, keeping people in 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.880 prison longer, because certainly isn't it isn't the greater community, 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.639 greater society, because the more person is in prison and 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.000 for the longer period of time they come out, and 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.679 they tend to re offend. Those who never make their 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.360 way to prison. Yeah, don't come into contact for these 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:55.440 petty violations as a young person. They don't return, right, 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:56.240 they don't go back. 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.439 Yeah, that's I was a big deal. 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:04.040 In Maryland, Mosby and Baltimore stopped prosecuting low level crimes. Again, 0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:06.919 she was disrupting a system, and we've talked a lot 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.040 about what happened to her. We'll have more on that 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.600 at the end of the show, so stick around. But Andrew, 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.120 I'm really happy you brought up Vice President Kamala Harris 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:14.600 because I want to play two sound bites from her. 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.520 The first, I think, if we're talking about this problem, 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.879 it is important to highlight what the executive branch at 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.560 different branch of government outside the judiciary, but what the 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:23.760 executive branch has done to try to correct some of 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.439 these things at the federal level. So let's take a 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.760 listen to what she had to say at a roundtable 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:29.080 she hosted this month. 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.240 I believe that the promise of America includes equal justice 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:38.520 under the law, and for too many, our criminal justice 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.440 system has failed to live up to that core principle. 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.760 And I say that with full knowledge of how this 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:51.600 system has worked, including my experience as a prosecutor. The 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.840 President and I have addressed inequities through implementation of long 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:59.760 overdue criminal justice reforms. For example, we have at the 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.680 fee level band choke holds, we have restricted no knock warrants, 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.080 and created the first effort database to track misconduct by 0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.359 law enforcement. This is critically important that last piece. The 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:15.760 first pieces may be obvious, but as we know, all 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.479 too often we have seen examples of where a police 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.720 officer has been found to have committed misconduct in one. 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.520 Region, but then can move to another region. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:30.240 And that record does not follow that individual, and then 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.600 of course the same behavior repeats itself. So the fact 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.840 that we have made a commitment to having that kind 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.720 of database is really very significant in the push toward 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.560 ensuring that we have justice in the criminal justice system. 0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.560 We have also been focused. 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:52.719 On re entry, reentry, reentryent right on target with you, Andrew, 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:54.199 and in. 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.480 The record, not following a mistake, not following you for 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.239 the rest of your life. So take for instance, when 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.240 I was in municipal government, and I know a number 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.600 of them did this around the country and the President Biden, 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.159 President Obama, Champion. This is the whole banning of the 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.000 box right where you go in you apply for a job, 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.640 you get measured on your merits. How do you stand 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.919 up against the qualities and the qualifications that meet this 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.520 particular job. We're not going to ask you about your 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.760 criminal history on the application, because we're going to get 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.320 you in there if you qualify to measure you against 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.840 the position that you're applying for. And my city we 0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.719 did that, and then we looked at criminal history after 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.720 a decision was made by the hiring person that that 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.200 was the candidate they wanted, and so then they would 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.040 look at the criminal history and determine if the crime 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.320 that was committed is in squares with the person that 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.960 I interviewed and that I measured from their employment contract, 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.200 employment application, and make a decision that's full of more 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.680 than just one bad decision that a person has made 0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.560 in their life, and and they're kicked out. And the 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.160 problem with this, the at on the first Step Act 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:05.960 is most everything that gets taken away from the individual 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.160 as a result of having had a criminal offense, deal 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:13.920 with their ability to live, to survive, food stamps, federal 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.080 housing gets taken away. You can't get any federal subsidy 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:21.360 for any of the food based programs that exist. You 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.880 get unemployment, you get stricten from being able to compete 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.920 for certain jobs. I understand the whole need for you know, 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.400 you take to certain travel, you know, restrictions of that 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.120 kind of thing. I don't get how you take a 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.440 person who is getting out of the system, who's trying 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.760 to make their lives better. What sens does it make 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.360 to then restrict them from housing and restrict them from 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.040 food support that they need to live, and then restrict 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:47.800 them from the ability to work so that they can 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.080 provide for themselves and they don't have to default back 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.440 into a life of criminality. And I just think the 0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:58.320 system doesn't make sense because it says one thing on 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:02.400 one hand and then erects law barriers preventions that keep 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:03.960 you from doing the thing that we say we want 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.200 you to be able to do, which is be upright, 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:07.920 upstanding and provide for yourself. 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:13.280 But if the system were going to follow how it's 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:17.920 set up to work, you know, going back to this 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.000 First Step Act case with Pulsifer, it's a very easy fix. 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.800 Congress can say to the Supreme Court what it intended 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.360 by amending the First Step Act and clarifying that the 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.240 end was in fact an ore. And while they're at it, 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:33.920 it would be great if they could run that thing 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.200 back eleven years and do voting rights, you know, like 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:39.360 there's we've been waiting for them to revise and fix 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.160 Shelby versus Holder since then, and we clearly need that 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.000 because we see that the Supreme Court generally is not 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.000 going to be on the side of the people, particularly 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.400 those who find themselves the most marginalized, despite all of 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.760 our significant contributions to the building of this country. So 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:58.200 it is really really frustrating to see that you would 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.600 take away the discretion of the judicial branch when you, 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.520 in fact are writing the opinion for the judicial branch 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.720 and putting folks who are non violent offenders, non violent 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.160 drug offenses on their record, and this is what you 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.200 just this is how you decide to come down on them. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.200 It's really it's appalling. Unfortunately. 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.680 The other, of course, was the just really quick for 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.760 Andrew Shelby the holder, was the twenty thirteen ruling that 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.480 gut it section three of the Voting Rights Act that 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:32.120 essentially anti history thank you four and five, but essentially 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:36.200 gave states the control over how they oversaw elections. 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.960 And that's how you got legislation like you can't give somebody. 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.960 A bottle of water while they're waiting in line, which 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.440 is ridiculous. Andrew, whatever you're going to say next, I 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.600 want you to toss to a Vice President Harris a 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:49.560 sound bite when you're done. 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.040 No, let's let's let's let's hear from the Vice President, 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.400 because I think she's really finding and seeding her voice 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.160 more deeply, I think in this criminal justice reform, and 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.200 she's got the kind of resume as a former prosecutor 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.800 I think to withstand the kind of scrutiny that would 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.440 normally come from I don't know an African American saying 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.760 we need criminal justice reform. 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.000 Well, they should talk about what they have done. And 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.440 this is an area where this is something they haven't done, 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.440 and I think they need to and it's the area 0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:19.960 near and dear to my heart hear. 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:21.200 I know what this is. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:21.800 Right. 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.560 We have gathered. 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.520 Today, however, to address specifically the injustices that we have 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.760 seen in the federal marijuana policy. I have said many 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.760 times I believe, I think we all bot this table 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.120 believe nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed. 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.360 And what we need to do is recognize that far 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.080 too many people have been sent to jail for simple 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:52.440 marijuana possession, and the impact is such that in particular, 0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:57.200 Black Americans and Latinos are four times more likely, four 0:32:57.240 --> 0:33:00.520 times more likely to be arrested arrested for marijuana possession, 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.280 and the disparity is even larger when you talk about 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.680 the subset of black men and Latino matt. 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.560 I gotta say, guys, this is a huge problem for me. 0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:14.120 I don't know why this is considered. Uh, what is it? 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:19.280 Angela class It's a class a classy class a drug 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.120 in the same category as Angela's fact checking me. But 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.680 it's in the same category as heroin, as cocaine. 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.840 I don't mind telling you, guys. If you met me, 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:29.600 you already know this. 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.400 I am a consumer of marijuana and marijuana products. 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:33.840 I'm not a. 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.040 Huge Some people go home and have a glass of wine, 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.200 people go out, and you know, this is something that 0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.840 I do. And the fact that it has been so criminalized, 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.360 but it's not even about me. Marijuana is legal in 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:50.840 thirty eight states. It is revenue generating in many municipalities. 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:56.160 It is California has is a huge tax on marijuana 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.560 in California. But this is something to me that I 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:05.080 think not be criminalized and I don't understand why it is. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.320 And there's yes, and I will say this. 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.879 I know a lot of people who work on Capitol Hill, 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.839 a lot of people who worked in different administrations, and 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.480 I know more who smoke than those I don't, and 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.480 so even having it as its class, it's like you're 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.680 actually eliminating a huge talent pool of people who you know, 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.440 have to mark on the box that yeah, I smoke sometimes, 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:26.759 and it's just not fair. 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.920 It's schedule one ante, Yeah, schedule one, same as cocaine, 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.480 heroin and others. I think the thing just to go 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.800 back to what Kamalo was just talking about, Vice President 0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.000 Harris just talking about, she said, no one should have 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.720 to go to jail for smoking weed, No one should 0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.880 have to go to jail for eating it, no one 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:46.759 should have to go to jail for selling it. I 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.560 think like this is like we're at a pin point 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.359 now where we have to actually eliminate the disparities that exist. 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.680 There are folks who caught cases for also selling weed, 0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.680 but now there are white folks who were able to 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.719 build big brands I don't know, like medmen they're not 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.720 a sponsor in this podcast, who are making handover fist 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:08.440 in ways where folks sold a fraction of what they sold. 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.920 And so my thing is you actually actually also have 0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.759 to go a step further. It's not just about the 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.799 folks that smoke. It's the folks who were trying to 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.440 make ends meet selling weed and now they're locked up. 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.040 I would go another step further and say, if it's 0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.640 any non violent drug offender, including Mark Polsaffer from the 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.400 Supreme Court case, they probably should be shouldn't be catching 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.319 time like that, Like, we've got to figure out something 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.480 else for folks who are non violent offenders. 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.279 We really do. This is supposed to be about rehabilitation. 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.960 This is where prosecutors play a key role. Because we've 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:44.120 told you prosecutors decide what cases to bring, what charges 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.879 to bring, or what charges to not bring. And I've 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.560 heard from more than one prosecutor they say, look, if 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.120 you don't have the drug kingpin, i'm arrested, then turn 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.799 the person you have into the drug kingpin. Because they 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.760 are politically ambitious people sometimes who are trying to inflate 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.120 their own career and so they want to turn the 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:05.280 little you know, double back boy into Avon Barksdale at times. 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.000 And uh so we can't be mad at you know, 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.360 black women who take up these roles and use that 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:14.120 role to help eradicate the criminal justice system that has 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:15.799 been very punishing towards life. 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.520 Yeah, I mean and Angela, your point around the just 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.480 just the contradiction that we have set up in the 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:28.040 system where just because we've evolved as society now the big, big, 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.120 big boxes that are coming in with marijuana that they're 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:37.160 there there their penalty is profit. But for the for 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.360 the folks who are in our neighborhoods and on the 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:44.920 corners and are in many ways trying to to to 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.200 get access to the basic means for survival for themselves 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.920 and for the people who they love and care about. 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.080 I know this because I had a brother and rather 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:57.640 relatives who found themselves in that game. They're not only 0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.640 not out of jail, they're serving these sentences. They are 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.800 scarred for the rest of their lives because they've always 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.560 got to say that they've got this as part of 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.720 their record as their background. And folks are making judgments 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.120 about what they can and cannot do. No voting, no 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.880 passports to travel internationally, no ability to serve on a jury. 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:18.840 You got to go before this governor and ask for 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:22.120 your ability to vote ever again, and your future not. 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.080 Eligible for student aid either, I think. 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:31.200 Student no federal programs whatsoever. So it's a walking, breathing contradiction, 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.560 and the only difference between those folks in these. 0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:36.799 Is what. 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.759 By and large largely the color of their skin. Who 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:45.240 sits at the intersection of the impact, and we're carrying 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.240 in our community a heavy burden that lasts a long 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:48.880 as time. 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.080 Well, I think you brought up a good point, Andrew 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.239 about the jury pool, because then you consider how many 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.319 people get eliminated from the jury pool, and that's how 0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.239 you have things like all white juries and certain municipals fo. 0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.840 To never get considered in right, they never get. 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:04.359 That's what I mean. 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.440 Yeah, Yeah, so you are really not judged by a 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:11.000 jury of your peers if you're overly criminalized and then 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.839 you know, summarily dismissed from participating in basic functions of 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.759 society over a jay And in my gentrified ass neighborhood, 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.720 I see white boys walking down the street all the time, 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.040 puffing and passing all day long, and I just think 0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.759 about man thirty years ago, this would this would have 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.239 been a huge challenge if these were black folks. There 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.880 are people who serve gave up decades of their life 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:36.160 for things like this. 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:37.719 Yeah. 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.799 I would just like to register my problem with some 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:43.840 of the criminal justice reform as we pursue it. It 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:47.040 seems like we only go in on criminal justice reform 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:52.760 when it comes to the sentencing and when somebody then 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.240 is incarcerated, conditions for incarcerations, so on and so forth. 0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.400 And my my critique is that the process of justice 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.680 reform starts before that point. In the federal system, we 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.440 got grand juries in all fifty states, and if a 0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.640 grand jury hands down an indictment, that person is as 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.400 good as gone. And states of the fifty states, twenty 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:19.759 five out of fifty have grand juries. And when those 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.440 grand juries decide to indict, that person is as good 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.360 as gone, either through their trial where they may be 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.319 found guilty, or because they don't want to risk that 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:31.960 they plea out, which is most times the case that 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.040 happens between the attorneys, the prosecutors, and the defendants. And 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.960 I'm simply saying, if the if the state or the 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:43.759 federal government lose if their case is not proven. Why 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.200 is it that the government never has to pay the 0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.680 legal bills of the folks that they took to task. 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.880 Why is it that's some legislation you should get injured. 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.879 That's rare. Why is it the prosecutor ever held accountable 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.320 for telling false statements to a grand jury in pursuit 0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.120 of an indict man. In the civil side, I can't 0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.840 say I'm on sue Tiffany because she took an idea 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.560 of mine and ran with it. If I bring that 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.400 suit against you, Tiffany, and I lose, you have the 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:13.960 ability to your judgment to come after me, get your 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.880 legal fees and any other damages that you've incurred as 0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:21.200 a result of me coming after you. Faulty. That same burden, however, 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.000 doesn't exist for the government, and it's an unit's an 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.000 it's an outweighted system. And when we talk about reform, 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.080 we ought to be reforming every single aspect of criminal 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.399 justice law. If justice is blind, make it blind from 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.759 the beginning until the end of the process. And that 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.200 doesn't exist, and we got to incorporate that more and 0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.560 our conversations around criminal justice reform. 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.399 I wanted to fact check myself, Lolo synth this as 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:48.360 of July one, twenty twenty three, drug convictions no longer 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:54.400 affect federal student Aida village eligibility. Okay, so that student AGA. 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:57.080 I didn't just I just said about the student aid. 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.600 I just wanted to clarify. I don't want here next 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:00.799 week toalking about part ding. 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.200 Okay, I get it. I'm just saying food and shelter 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:10.360 Maslow's hierarchy needs. That's number one safety security, food shelter. 0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.600 Yes, I am not arguing there. I agree. 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.759 I know, I know, I know, I know. Friend, I'm just. 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.360 Saying all the first step back because a second step 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.719 is needed, and a lot of this policy rest at 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.960 the state and local level, so there's a lot more 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.520 work to do on criminal justice reform. We're gonna take 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.000 a quick break, pay some bills. But when we come back, 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:32.200 in the words Codis Blow, we are playing talking really 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.640 basketbamb If you old enough, remember Curtis Blow, check it out. 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:43.640 We'll see you on the other side of this break. 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.160 All right, for you old enough folks, Curtis Blow saying 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.560 it's time to talk bassket ball. 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.440 Of course you do, all right. I hope you don't 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.200 have to forgive my. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:42:03.120 My lacking, forgive my my lacking and singing abilities. But 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.840 I think this is so cool because as a sports 0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.120 officionado and people are constantly asking my opinion on these 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:14.239 type things. I think it's amazing that women's basketball in 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.800 March Madness, the women's brackets are becoming just as popular 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.319 as the men's baskets. I will say in full transparency. 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.719 Angela reminded me that March Madness is college basketball, not 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:28.600 the w NBA, as if a sports expert like me 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.040 needed to be reminded of that too. 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.759 But I got it. But I am. 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.360 I honestly am thrilled our friend Aaron Haynes with the 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.279 nineteenth It is like super into women's basketball. And so 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.720 Angela and I and our group of friends the MACHETI 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.400 shout out to you guys. We all went to Paris 0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.600 in the fall to support It was two black women, 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.840 Don Staley and I forget the other coach's name, forgive 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.080 me from Notre Dame, Notre Day, Yes, but they were 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.400 playing in a basketball exhibition game in Paris, and I 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:56.439 had so much fun. 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:57.560 I thought it was amazing. 0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:01.840 So Kandice Parker recently waighed in with her thoughts on 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.840 women's basketball and women's sports really getting more attention. 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.200 Let's take a listen to her and then we'll talk 0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:07.440 about it. On the other side. 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.240 I think now people are realizing how important and how 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.120 exciting it is to watch women's sports. And you know, 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.880 we've been on this train for a long time, and 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.160 now I understand people get on at different times, but 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:20.720 to be a part of women's basketball at this point, 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.360 to see the excitement, the outcomes, just even in conference tournaments, 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.560 to see what it did last year, I think it's 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.400 just truly special. And I think it's just a sports 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.560 fan like as a sports fan, being able to pick 0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.040 the winner in both brackets. Men have had it all along. 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.560 Women now are getting in and I think we're taking 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.440 advantage of it. I mean, look at the ratings, get 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.479 social media, look at the five. 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.760 It's called the athleticism that the women do. So this season, 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.400 most eyes have been on Caitlin Clark. Where does she 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.560 stack up in terms of the rankings, because I said, 0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:54.480 you can't underestimate don Staley. 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.560 Listen, I think South Carolina on Staley and what she 0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:58.880 has done at South Carolina. 0:43:59.200 --> 0:43:59.879 I know my team. 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.520 Yeah, she likes rubbing it in a lot, but what 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.120 she's done back to back undefeated seasons in the regular 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:09.000 season is just ridiculous. Yeah, she in your final four, 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.279 she is in my final four. 0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.320 I just I'm excited to see it. Really, I don't 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:14.480 know about the brackets. 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:17.120 Do y'all have brackets. Are y'all playing in this March madness? 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:18.080 I definitely will. 0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:21.279 I have not completed my bracket yet, but I do 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.880 have to do a shameless plug here really quick for 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:25.400 our good sister Jamel Hill. 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.080 She just wrote a piece. 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:31.320 On what Caitlin Clark's fans are missing in the Atlantic, 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:34.879 and I love it because it really highlights the role 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.680 that black women have played in basketball and are very 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:43.200 regularly not recognized for all of our contributions. And also 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.919 to that point, we want to say her name. Neil 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.120 Ivy from Notre Dame is the coach that Tiff referenced earlier. 0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.120 But I just think we oftentimes are not given the 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.479 full credit that we deserve. I know we talked about 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:59.680 paid disparity earlier Tiff, but now with NIL, they're kind 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.960 of leveling the playing field. You see folks like Angel 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:07.960 Rehies making a killing because of NIL, and I do 0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:11.160 want to quickly. I know we're talking women's basketball, but 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.960 I just want to acknowledge Juwan Howard, who was just 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.719 told by the University of Michigan that he would be 0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.040 relieved of his coaching duties, and I think it's such 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.640 a shame that they would do that the year that 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.480 he had an open heart surgery. The team definitely had 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:31.560 a tough season, but Juwan's contributions along with the significance 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.680 of what the Fab five has meant to Michigan in 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.319 terms of resources, time, effort, and the ways in which 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.600 they've showed up for Juwan overall, this was the first 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.799 reunion they've had and they didn't even let that thing 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.920 write out, and so it's a shame, especially at the 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.600 hands of a black athletic director. I do have other 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.680 things to say about black women. 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.239 Well, oftentimes under directions of presidents and boards of trustees 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:53.680 and you know how that process. 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.319 Yeah, but he has some discretion. I didn't even know 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.800 that Angeles. Yeah, it really really is awful. So I 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:02.880 am sending love to Juwan and Jeanine. They have a 0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.200 son who is in the NBA now another son who 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.359 plays for that team. It's just a really disappointing way 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:12.120 to see the season end. But for women, I will 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.799 say it was such a joy to support two black 0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.840 women coaches in Paris. As Tip talked about, to watch 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:20.200 the many ways in which the sport has changed. I'm 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.960 watching young boys like running after women players to get 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:28.120 autographs and it is dope. I was super hyped knowing 0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:31.120 that Juju Watkins, for example, was leaving high school and 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:33.359 going to the University of Southern California, and she's been 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:40.120 killing it. Watching the center Camilla Cardozo, who's from Brazil, 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:41.960 who made a three pointer at the end of a 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.440 game won the game for Dawn just a couple of 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.720 weeks ago. It has been a joy to watch the sports. 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.000 And I hate to say it, y'all, but the boys 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.920 are a little boring. The girls got it going on 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.240 this time. So I can't wait to fill out my bracket. 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.600 And I'm kind of boycotting boys or men's basketball NCAA 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:57.960 style because of what happened with Jawan. 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.800 I'm mad. Yeah, I don't like that. Can I copy 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:03.040 your bracket or does everybody? 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.400 I'm definitely going to make you do your lie, Like 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.160 how do you how ome bracket? You can bet twenty 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.960 dollars tip not to know it's not too okay. 0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.520 So it's really and it's with you and somebody like 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.080 if I did a bracket, you can have. 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.080 The machetes do a bracket. We can have a Native 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.080 lamp pot bracket situation. You put your money in. Everybody 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.279 put in twenty dollars, and you might not be a 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:24.560 bet man because he's a bishop most days. Look at this, 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:25.279 see what I'm saying. 0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:30.040 It's twenty dollars by me, lunch. It's not illegal, can I? 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.640 I honestly, I thought the brackets were national. 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.960 I didn't even know I thought the brackets were national. 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.480 I thought, like everybody in the country is participating in 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:43.359 this bracket, and like there were stages like tiers of Winter, 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:45.400 like a lottery. 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:46.400 Fair enough. 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.680 Yes, there's there is a whole gambling industry for this, 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:51.640 but there are also a lot of people who do 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.880 brackets for fun. It's you know, how fantasy football works is. 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:56.840 Very similar a lot of jobs. 0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.279 Yes, can we do a Native Land viewer bracket with 0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.160 the viewership we put a link up to that so 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:03.680 we don't. 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:07.800 Have somebody else to evaluate all this stuff because giving your expertise, uh, 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:08.440 you know. 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:10.319 We can. We can ask Nick to put a link 0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.880 up to the NCAA bracket where the teams are starting, 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.920 where they end up. They go to Sweet sixteen, the 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.759 Elite eight, and then the Final four and then of 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:17.839 course the championship. 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.319 The last thing I've just said about the basketball piece 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.880 or what contribute here is just to say that uls 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.080 been a joy watching and it truly has. And I 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:30.480 hadn't considered the fact until I heard a female basketball 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:33.160 player and I can't remember who said it say, you know, 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.360 we've been hustling at this for a long time, but 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:39.360 the way in which the cameras, the videographers, the folks 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.200 who have who have projected what we do on the 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.120 court out to the rest of the world hasn't always 0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.800 been equal to what the men get men's games, in 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:51.760 which the way that they have covered, the technology, investment 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:57.279 that gets made, the shots that get covered there makes 0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:00.000 it a different kind of experience. And so the level 0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.640 of just even that piece of it, which I hadn't 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:07.440 considered before, has also had the inducement of putting the 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:12.480 athleticism of these talented women on full display. Yeah, and 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.960 I hadn't considered that part of it. So, you know, 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.919 it's important to dis six every piece of why it 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:20.200 is that the popularity has been going up the way. 0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:20.480 That it has. 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.360 They've survived off their athleticism for a long time, and 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.600 now we get that plus the dynamics of the way 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:27.520 in which it's covered. 0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.080 We love to see it. Keep hooping, ladies, we're watching. 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.320 I'm gonna fill out my first bracket, so I'm excited 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:32.759 about that. 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.719 Angela. I'll call you later for guidance. Native Landpop Family. 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.759 If y'all have suggestions for me, drop a comment and 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.319 let me know who I should be paying attention to. 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:41.200 Please help her. 0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:49.279 Speaking of Native Land Family, it's time to hear from 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.480 you all on this show. We want to make sure 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:55.600 y'all feel welcome home. We so enjoy hearing your questions, 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.480 so keep those questions coming. We try to fit in 0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.600 as many as possible and a lot of people. I 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:01.040 don't know. If you y'all get these two people with 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.120 DM ME and leave a comment like why I gotta 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.719 be on me? There's a problem because there are so 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.840 many people who try to pretend they are other people 0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:09.920 on social media. 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.440 So we want to know that you are real people. 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.480 We want to see your beautiful face is right. 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.600 We know we're not engaging with bots, and so that's 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:19.240 why we ask you to be on video. 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.920 To talk to your AI, your stunt double, your tupac 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.800 hologram like anybody turned it in exactly. 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:28.360 We want to see who you are all eyes. Speaking 0:50:28.360 --> 0:50:31.359 of exactly. 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:36.040 So, speaking of I think we have a first question 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:37.920 from Marquell Cole. 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.200 What you got, Mark Well? What's going on? 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:43.400 Native lamppod? My name is Mark Well Cole. I'm currently 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.200 living on the beautiful island of Grenada, but I'm originally 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.440 from the Bronx, New York. And if you guys know 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.319 anything about the Bronx, you know that the Bronx is 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.960 the last of the Mohicans in regards to gentrification. Now, 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.000 there's been a lot of talk in regards to reverse 0:50:56.040 --> 0:51:00.000 great migration. We're blacks resettle back in the South, however, 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.720 but what is a result to fight the forces of gentrification? 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:09.160 And how can we repopulate neighborhoods that were predominantly and 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:14.080 historically black, such as your Harlems and Bedsize. I believe 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.239 the Bronx has been doing a pretty good job in 0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.560 terms of preserving the culture, but how can we continue 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:24.680 to keep that defense up and fight against gentrification? Thank you? 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.840 I love that question, and we've all bore witness to 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.040 that gentrification harms not only us, but the wealth gap 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:36.760 is a whole history and now gentrification started with white 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:41.160 white folks essentially destroying black neighborhoods and we're seeing it repopulated. 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:42.600 Andrew, did you want Yeah, I mean, I was just 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:44.799 gonna say, I got a lot of black friends who 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:47.680 are part of the regentrification as they've come in with 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.000 their degrees and good jobs and you know, have settled 0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.239 back and some of those communities that the folks who 0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.040 had historically lived there can no longer afford to be there. 0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:03.279 And I would just say, but we cannot be when 0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:06.120 we pay the rates that are being asked, and uh 0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:10.000 uh uh and and truth be told. The market conditions 0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.320 in so many ways in a free market system dictate 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.600 how these areas are able to charge and and reshape 0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:19.880 themselves the way that they have. But don't get that 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.120 to mean that there aren't protections that can be put 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.120 in place. So I can tell you in the at 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:27.520 the municipal level, you have city boards and planning boards 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.080 whose jobs it is to determine what are going to 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.080 be the laws and the policies that govern this particular 0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.759 area of development in the city. And so if it's 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:40.200 a value of those of those decision makers, you can 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.640 go in and you can say, hey, I like for 0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.120 you know, I want the neighborhood cleaned up or I want, 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:49.560 you know, a new housing that is livable and sustainable, 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.640 But I believe that we need to put a cap 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:58.040 on uh uh pricing in this particular area, within this 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:03.120 certain square, you know, block footage in that the city 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:07.000 could also determine that the property values won't increase above 0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:10.000 a certain percentage right here in Florida, and I'm sure 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:11.960 other states do it as well. Where if you're a 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:15.560 senior or if you've served in the military, your taxing 0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:19.520 structure is different from everybody else. Those same kinds of 0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:22.640 provisions can be made available to everyday folks who are 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.279 living in neighborhoods that they want those neighborhoods to be 0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:28.600 improved upon, but they don't want to be priced out 0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:30.720 of the place where they've grown up and their mothers 0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.120 have grown up, and their grandmothers have grown up. Where 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.880 you've got inner generations living right in the same neighborhood 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.000 and are now being pushed out by many of these 0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:42.040 market forces. Yes, the market dictates a lot, but yes, 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.720 also local decision makers can decide what kind of protections 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:47.560 they want to put in place to keep some of 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:52.480 these neighborhoods looking like they reflecting the values and the 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:55.000 people who have held them up for so long. 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.640 You know, I think this might be a good mini pain, 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:03.120 this for a mini pod. No, no go, please, I'll 0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:03.919 be very quick. 0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:05.560 You know. 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:09.080 The thing that comes to mind is the emotion that 0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:14.239 you see play out when gentrification occurs in these communities. 0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:19.320 It's not just people being displaced, it is memories also 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:23.080 being displaced. There was a really big article in the 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:27.000 Seattle Times some years back talking about the Central Area 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:30.120 and where what you really see are the number of 0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.759 people who lose the houses because property taxes rise and 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:38.719 they can no longer afford to pay the property taxes. 0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:42.239 And that is a devastating way to lose a home 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:44.640 that has been in your family for generations. And I 0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:47.600 do think Andrew to the point there should be some 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:51.240 protections put in place in municipalities all around the country. 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:56.680 The number of you know, mortgage companies that faced discrimination 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:58.960 settlements that should be a part of it too, Like 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:02.239 what kind of program is there a public private partnership 0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.160 that it could exist that could be developed to ensure 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:08.319 people can stay in their homes and that legacy is 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.640 not erase from families. It is so important. I don't 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:14.720 have the answer. I have more questions than I have answers, 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.600 but I would love to see solutions in me. 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:20.080 But you're right about that, Angelau. The memories are stunning, 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.560 and you often hear our parents and grandparents say, Man, 0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.200 when I was growing up, that's where everybody congregated. That's 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.880 where we went and got fresh foods and vegetables that 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.560 were grown right here in the neighborhood on trees and bushes, 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:32.920 so on and so forth. And there are protections y'all. 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.320 In fact, we may follow up with a couple of 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.759 resources of national folks who are doing this work, so 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:40.400 y'all can figure out how to plug in where it 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:41.080 is that you live. 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:44.600 I love that, and that's a good question. Can we 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:45.400 be gentrifiers? 0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:49.080 Because if a group of educated black folks had resources 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:52.040 moved into an area, commerce doesn't follow us that way. 0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.160 The marketplace doesn't follow us that way. You want, all 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.759 of a sudden see a banana republic popped up. So 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.360 I think it's a goot minipid to have a deeper yea. 0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:01.120 I would. I don't know the answer to that, but 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.040 it would be curious. But because I kind of thought 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:07.600 that it followed more gentrification, money and the fact that 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.560 you are now pricing folks out of areas than not. 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.560 When publicisides if they want to go into a place 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.400 and build a store, they do a geo mapping of 0:56:15.440 --> 0:56:19.640 the area and evaluate incomes and if it meets this threshold, 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:21.640 it's like, okay, that's a customer for us. Those would 0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.120 be our future customers. And you know the same thing happens. 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:25.879 Well, we're gonna get more into this because I got 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.040 more questions than answers to maybe all right, to keep 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:30.480 us moving, because I want to make sure we get 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:34.040 to everybody. Our next question is from Monica. 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:34.680 What you're talking. 0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:38.840 About, Hey, Native Lampard Monica Williams Harris Here, this relates 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:43.920 to your discussion about the Alabama Supreme Court's recent decision 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:50.520 regarding IVF. It's someone who did two rounds unsuccessful successful 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:54.640 rounds of IVF, and then who subsequently we adopted our 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:58.480 beautiful son. I just find it extremely frustrating that these 0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:07.000 lawmakers and judges continue to legislate and try to control 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:11.399 a woman's right to give birth and make decisions about 0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:14.520 her body, when what they really should be doing is 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:19.080 making adoption much more affordable. As Tiffany indicated, there are 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.520 tens of thousands of children who are in foster care, 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.920 many of them are black children. And there are several 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:27.680 women that I know, several families that I know that 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:31.360 would love to adopt, but it's simply it's not affordable. 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.440 Thanks so much for you all's bringing light to this 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:38.760 situation and as always, continued blessings on the podcast. 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:44.120 I love Monica, fellow wrap up, Monica, thank you, continue 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.720 blessings to you and congratulations on your beautiful son. I 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.120 hope we get to see a picture, maybe if she 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:51.640 could DM us a picture of her son. 0:57:51.680 --> 0:57:53.680 But I love that question, Angela. 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:55.520 Did you want to Yeah, I think just as a 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:59.040 matter of where we actually are. Of course we know 0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:02.080 about the Alabamas Supreme Court, but also a few weeks 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.600 ago the Governor of Alabama did sign a bill into 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.320 law to protect IVF So I do want to make 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.240 sure that you know where we where we can't give credit, 0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.320 we give it, but shamelind you for having a judge 0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.720 on the bench that would do all of that fire brimstone, 0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:16.560 and hell, he was preaching from his opinion. 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:21.840 Nonetheless, I'm also a little hesitant to give KIV anyway. 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:23.720 I mean, okay, signed the bill into. 0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:25.920 Law Republican Governor k Ivy of Alabama. 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:31.800 She's I don't believe in another than not telling people 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.720 when they did something. She did the right thing. She 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:38.160 signed a bill into law to protect IVF and it 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:41.640 was pat I'm surprised, honestly by the legislature. The House 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.480 passed it a bill ninety four to six, and then 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:48.080 the Senate passed the bill unanimously. But sometimes when you 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.760 see your own interests being challenged, you will rise up 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.400 to protect your own entrant. It is still the right 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.720 thing because it impacts lots of other people besides them. 0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.640 It could have been worse. We could have been a 0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.280 handmade tail earlier than in twenty twenty four of Donald Trump. 0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:04.400 Was this election, So shout out to the. 0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:10.120 Threat still exists, right the birth control. 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.720 The threat is still exist They're going after birth control now. 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:16.160 Yeah, And I just want I want to credit the 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.960 organizers and the people who applied the pressure to make 0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:23.480 sure that this bill passed and to force k Ivy's 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:26.640 hand to do it. There was a lot of videos circulating, 0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:32.040 one of a female reporter interviewing Senator Tommy Tubberville. I mean, 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:37.040 I don't but what he lacks in intellect, he makes 0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.680 up for in talking nonsense. 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.600 And he literally didn't even know what the legislation was. 0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:44.680 And this is something he voted for, right, But it 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:48.680 took so many people on the ground, organizing, protesting, and 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:52.320 confronting these politicians with this for k Ivy to find that. 0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:58.200 So I just wanted to point that out. Okay, now 0:59:58.200 --> 0:59:59.800 we have Brianna from Phoenix. 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:01.560 Hello, my name is Brianna. 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:02.880 I'm from Phoenix, Arizona. 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:08.360 I'm currently serving in the Acuity Air Force here in Missouri. 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:11.200 I would like to just shed some light on our 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:15.680 top government officials. We're being required to have mental health 1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:18.840 evaluations in order to sit in our top government seats 1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:22.440 in Washington and even in the local and state politics. 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:26.400 As a military member, we are required to go through 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.880 mental health evaluations from the beginning middle and even if 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.720 we have any mental health issues during our time of service, 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.439 we are removed from our jobs and we're not even 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:41.320 allowed to in some case deploy our PCs, which is 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:44.840 like move duty stations. I feel like if we have 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:48.400 to go through these grooming processes when it comes down 1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.040 to mental health evaluations and making sure that we are 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:55.680 mentally fit to serve in the United States military, our 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:58.800 government officials from local all the way up. 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:02.480 To DC should be required as well. That's just my 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:06.800 take on it, and fair is fair. I love that. Rihanna. 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:09.120 First of all, thank you so much for your service. 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:09.919 I think. 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.640 Second of all, you know, every single week we say 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:15.600 welcome home, but all throughout the week people are weighing 1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:19.080 in on social media, telling us what they think, how 1:01:19.120 --> 1:01:21.720 they feel, what we got right, what we got wrong, 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.040 and everything in between. Stop that cussing, y'all. Keep that 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.960 cussing going, y'all, like everything in between, and so we 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.160 are so grateful that you're weighing in. In fact, I 1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.520 think we're gonna pivot a little bit from just having 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:38.360 Native Lamppod fam questions into having some comments, and I 1:01:38.400 --> 1:01:43.360 think Brianna is kicking that off. So we appreciate your statement. 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:45.760 All I'll say to that is amen, because you heard 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.720 me say it before. I definitely think we guive you 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.880 some more mental health evaluations in this piece. So we 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:54.440 definitely thank you for your service and for sharing your opinion. 1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:56.560 Welcome home, Briann, I actually really love that, and I 1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:58.480 love Angela that you're saying, let's open this up. For 1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:01.760 comments as well, because we want people to fill welcome home, 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:05.560 and this is your platform as well, So I invite 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:10.000 everybody along handle exactly, pull up a seat to this table, 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:12.440 sit on the couch with us. So send it, but 1:02:12.520 --> 1:02:15.480 just make sure that when you're sending questions or comments 1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:18.360 that it is sixty seconds or less. We're not gonna 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:20.600 pretend this is church on a Sunday. Everybody trying to 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.440 get home to see the game, like you gotta just 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:25.320 sixty seconds or less. Make sure we can see you, 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:29.280 say your name clearly and where you're from. And keep 1:02:29.280 --> 1:02:32.240 those comments and questions coming. We love being in community 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:34.040 with you, We love being in conversation with you, so 1:02:34.120 --> 1:02:36.120 keep those comments and questions coming. We're gonna take a 1:02:36.160 --> 1:02:38.240 really quick break, but don't go anywhere because we're coming 1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:38.920 right back. 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:39.520 With call to action. 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:52.680 Okay, calls to action. Who wants to go first? Don't 1:02:52.720 --> 1:02:58.400 everybody jump at once? Who wnths to go first? Well, 1:02:58.440 --> 1:03:01.040 in transparency, not call it action yet. 1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:01.280 Yeah. 1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:04.720 The only one I have is me asking people to 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:05.680 help me with my bracket. 1:03:05.720 --> 1:03:07.520 And that doesn't seem like an important enough. 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:09.240 But that's it. That's it. 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:11.840 It just doesn't seem like an important enough call to action. 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:14.960 So I'm sorry, guys, but that is what I would 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:20.200 like help with my bracket in general understanding of how 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:21.040 these brackets go. 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:26.200 Extraordinary expert. I'll go quickly. It's I. You know, we 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:28.600 talked a bit. We did a little Facebook live on 1:03:28.680 --> 1:03:35.120 the whole funny funny Willis situation, and I know it's 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:37.919 old news. Last week we learned she will be able 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:41.440 to stay on the case, her prosecutors will continue to 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:42.640 do the work they've got to do. And she told 1:03:42.640 --> 1:03:44.480 the judge listen, if you want to start a trial 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:46.920 in thirty days, we will be ready. So she reassured 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:49.240 us with the confidence. I will tell you though I was. 1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:54.360 I was a bit concerned, and I'll just stated here. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:59.920 The judge in this case McAfee, in his written decision 1:04:00.040 --> 1:04:03.720 and says the following. This finding is by no means 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:07.440 an indication that the Court condones this tremendous lapse in 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:11.280 judgment or the unprofessional manner of the District Attorney's testimony 1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:16.720 during the evidentiary hearing. Rather, it is the undersigned opinion 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.360 that Georgia law does not permit the finding of an 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:24.080 actual conflict for simply making bad choices, even repeatedly, and 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:28.200 it is the trial court's duty to confine itself to 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:34.080 the relevant issues in applicable law applicable law before it. 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:39.800 Other forms of sources of authority, such as the General Assembly, 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:43.560 the Georgia State Ethics Commission, the State Bar of Georgia, 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:47.000 the Fulton County Board of Commissioners, or the voters of 1:04:47.040 --> 1:04:51.240 Fulton County may offer feedback on any of the unanswered 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.200 questions that linger. I read that and total just so 1:04:54.320 --> 1:05:00.120 that I personally felt like the judge in his paraga, 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:06.800 went a little further than was necessary to I don't know, 1:05:06.880 --> 1:05:11.120 sanction express his opinions about the DA One. I will say, 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:14.240 Fannie Willis getting on this stand and testifying the way 1:05:14.280 --> 1:05:18.440 that she did was critical to I think rallying folks 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:22.520 to understand her thinking around the whole cash situation. Secondly, 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:25.360 the judge laid out a number of legislative and governmental 1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:29.800 bodies and entities who can be approached to deal with 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:33.720 any of the information that he feels was faulty or 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:36.760 lacking in her testimony. And I would just say, if 1:05:36.800 --> 1:05:39.680 you were in the State of Georgia and you are 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:42.680 an attorney. Moreover, in the State of Georgia that it 1:05:42.760 --> 1:05:46.120 will be really really important, I think, and vital if 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:51.320 you believe that Fannie Willis deserves your protection, that she's 1:05:51.320 --> 1:05:55.320 serving her responsibility, that you all begin to rally around 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:58.120 her with regards to the State Ethics Commission and some 1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:00.600 of the inquiries that are going to be coming from 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:05.080 the Republican controlled legislature there so that she's flanked on 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:07.120 all sides while she tries to do the work that 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:11.040 is necessary to prosecute justice to the full end. I've 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:14.040 seen these kinds of distractions before. This is by no 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:17.360 means the end of the attack on her, and I'm 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:21.120 just hoping that you all, as viewers and listeners, if 1:06:21.120 --> 1:06:23.800 you feel compelled, will figure out a way that you 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:27.880 can come to the protective flank as these believe. I 1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:31.080 believe inquiries are going to continue as a side show 1:06:31.120 --> 1:06:32.640 to keep her from being able to do what she 1:06:32.680 --> 1:06:34.640 was elected to do. I know that was long. I 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:36.800 apologize to my co host, but it's been in my 1:06:36.880 --> 1:06:40.320 spirit since reading this opinion that this was a real 1:06:40.440 --> 1:06:46.520 opening and guidance for added attacks against the DA. 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:47.600 Thank you, Andrew. 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:51.600 I was going to say, we're going to stick with 1:06:52.320 --> 1:06:58.280 protecting the prosecutors Marilyn Moseby. There is a rally that 1:06:58.360 --> 1:07:01.600 we told you all we would talk about soon. It 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:05.320 is going to be held this Saturday, March twenty third, 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:10.720 at noon at the Druid Hill YMCA in Baltimore. No Justice, 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:15.280 No Peace, Fighting for Moseby Rally at noon on Saturday. 1:07:16.280 --> 1:07:20.320 There will soon be a petition made available as well 1:07:20.360 --> 1:07:22.920 as a letter that you can sign on to the 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:27.840 Biden administration asking them to have mercy and pardon someone 1:07:27.920 --> 1:07:32.120 who did not engage in any criminal wrongdoing whatsoever, but 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:35.160 has been the subject of a very expensive witch hunt 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:39.960 for falsifying mortgage documents that she herself did not fill out. 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:43.840 So we are going to continue to lift her up 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:47.400 in prayer. We are going to continue to advocate for 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:49.840 her as we would want someone to do for us, 1:07:50.640 --> 1:07:52.680 as we know Andrew would have wanted if he were 1:07:52.720 --> 1:07:57.480 not acquitted for his wrongful prosecution. And hopefully soon there 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:00.600 will be a selective prosecution case coming to the Department 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:03.479 of Justice for what has happened in Marylyn Moseby's case. 1:08:04.000 --> 1:08:07.560 So that said, we hope we can stand with you 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:11.320 all here and then also stand alongside tiff as she 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:16.679 works to fill out her March Badness in Cuba women's 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:17.760 basketball Brat. 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:21.320 Thank you for that, Angela and Andrew for your very 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:25.959 serious am I friend, no girl, but you on AOL. 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:28.000 Tiffany's on dial up Internet. 1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:30.320 She might not be able to close this show out today, 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:33.040 but know that she is with you all in spirit. 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:38.719 She's been silenced for no good reason. Internet justice and access. 1:08:38.840 --> 1:08:41.680 It's still an it's country. 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:45.200 Yes, Andrews created a new hashtag Internet for everybody. Maybe 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:47.639 y'all can carry in on the joke by just doing 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:51.960 hashtag Internet for tiff In the meantime, everyone should send 1:08:52.000 --> 1:08:56.680 her comments on Instagram and on Twitter, saying Tiffany, it 1:08:56.760 --> 1:09:01.880 is time to let go of AOL dial up, long 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:05.280 past time. 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