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Speaker 1: the season. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question, Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: at your hip, that's when they can get at it.

434
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Speaker 1: So a couple of bad turnovers. He missed a spot

435
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: up three, but he also had a beautiful feed off

436
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 1: of a back cut to Jackson Hayes, a really nice

437
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: read out of a three man action where he determined

438
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: that no one was on his bottom side and he

439
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to slip. He slipped out of it.

440
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: Eighty hit him on the bounce. He drew multiple players

441
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: in help. He dropped it off to Jackson Hayes Jackson,

442
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: He's got a dunk. It was a really nice play.

443
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: And then he also had a nice driving kick off

444
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Speaker 1: of the right wing to Dorian Finney Smith who missed

445
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: a three, but he generated an open three with a

446
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: nice little clothes out attack. So like, again, there were

447
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: mistakes on offense, but he also made a couple of

448
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 1: plays on offense and on defense, Like all three shots

449
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: that Tyrese Maxey made were super tough contested mid rangers,

450
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: which is literally your job guarding Maxie. Like if I

451
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Speaker 1: was talking about Max Christy guarding Tyrese Maxey, this is

452
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Speaker 1: what I would say. I'd be like, keep him off

453
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: the three point line, try to keep him from getting

454
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: completely downhill towards the rim, try to force him into

455
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: tough contested mid range jump shots, which is literally what

456
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Speaker 1: Bronnie did. However, he had a weird botch switched with

457
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith where he kind of like jumped away

458
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: and just let MAXI drive. That was a bad defensive play,

459
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: and then he fouled Tyrese Maxey on a separate drive.

460
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: So the point being like that was that stint looked

461
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 1: exactly like what I would expect from a young super

462
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: raw NBA prospect that has some NBA tools, but that

463
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: is years away from being an NBA rotation player.

464
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: Flashes of good.

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Speaker 1: And mistakes that are pretty much unacceptable for a pro right, Like,

466
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would have expected. So it wasn't

467
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: like the complete dumpster fire that everyone made it sound,

468
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: but it looked exactly like what you would expect for

469
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: putting Bronnie in the game. This is where I think

470
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: there is fair criticism to Levy towards JJ Reddick. He's

471
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: kind of setting Bronnie up to fail there. Bronnie shouldn't

472
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: be in that situation. Yes, the Lakers were down on

473
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: a road trip, down bodies, specifically at the guard spot.

474
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: They needed someone to step into that spot, but it

475
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: should have been Cam Reddish, not Bronni. Like, there isn't

476
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Speaker 1: a single thing that Bronni does on a basketball court

477
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: better than Cam Reddish. Yet at this point in his career,

478
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,239
Speaker 1: maybe in the big picture, Bronni will become this on

479
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Speaker 1: ball guard. I want to talk about that here in

480
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: a minute, But like, what you do in that spot

481
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Speaker 1: is you play Cam Reddish. Cam Reddish doesn't do much

482
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: on offense. But the one thing he doesn't do is

483
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't turn the ball over, like he knows how

484
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Speaker 1: to not do too much and make sure the ball

485
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Speaker 1: stays in possession. With his team, Cam Reddish isn't a

486
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: good spot up player, but he'll play within a role

487
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: and he'll do his job. And right now, Bronnie has

488
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: at no point in his career demonstrated the ability to

489
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: knock down three point shots at the NBA level. So

490
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: like any's shooting concerns, the same concerns are there for

491
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Speaker 1: Cam Reddish, or the same concerns are there for Bronnie,

492
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: right and then lastly, Cam is just a better defender

493
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: than Bronnie at this point in his career in every vesset,

494
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: So like within the context of trying to win that

495
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: game and you're in a guard depth situation, the obvious

496
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: call is play Cam Reddish, which is a fringe NBA player,

497
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: but that is much more capable of playing a role

498
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: within an NBA team right now than Bronni is. I

499
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: am not like the Bronnie haters out there. I don't

500
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: think he's just some nepotism case. I think he has

501
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: legitimate NBA tools. I thought he was a reasonable late

502
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: second round pick. Lots of guys in the second round

503
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: if you put him in the NBA would look like

504
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: Bronnie does. Okay, Bronni needs time, He needs years of

505
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: reps before he's ready. I think he belongs, he deserves

506
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: his shot. Let him take his time and figure it out.

507
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: The problem I have is what I said before the season.

508
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: He should absolutely never play meaningful rotation minutes. I said

509
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: that because he needs to earn that right behind the

510
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: scenes over the course of years, demonstrated, because like he

511
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: hasn't demonstrated it in college. He started, He's shown the

512
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: ability to get buckets in the G League, but he

513
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: needs to do it in a larger sample, and then

514
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: he needs to come to the NBA level and demonstrate

515
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: in garbage time that he can play. Then he can

516
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: get an opportunity. There's an order of operations to bringing

517
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: Bronni into real rotation minutes, and it wasn't bring him

518
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: in on the road in Philly and have him get

519
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: attacked relentlessly by Tyree Smacksy when he's literally on fire. Right, So,

520
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: like I disagreed, it wasn't the end of the world.

521
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: They were gonna lose that game in Philly anyway, that

522
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: they were banged up, Ad got hurt, they had other

523
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: guys al Vanderbilt was out, Gave Vincent was out. It's

524
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: a road trip long Lakers have been bad on long

525
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: road trips all year long. Like I don't, I don't

526
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Speaker 1: really take too much from the loss, but like, yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: I would recommend not playing Bronny in real rotation minutes

528
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Speaker 1: until he shows the ability to play well in garbage time,

529
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Speaker 1: and then I would I would consider that sort of

530
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Speaker 1: option in a case where injuries dictate that the end

531
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Speaker 1: of your roster plays more. One other thing I'll point

532
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Speaker 1: out there was this weird my friend Raj who was

533
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: my former co host when I used to do State

534
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: of the Lakers before I worked for the volume. He

535
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: covers the South Bay Lakers, and he asked Bronny one

536
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: day and said, like, what do you see yourself as

537
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: in terms of your role in the NBA? And he

538
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: said he sees himself as an on ball guard. And

539
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: I was a little concerned by that because like, I

540
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: think Bronnie is years away still from being a off

541
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Speaker 1: ball defensive guard. But he's many I think he's really

542
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: far away from being like like a legitimate NBA guard

543
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: that can run action for extended stretches. So like, it's

544
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to me in terms of like his

545
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: career path. Like, to me, if Bronnie wants to look

546
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: like an NBA player inside of his first contract, the

547
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: pathways get really good at defense, and get really good

548
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: at catch and shoot threes, get really good at making

549
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: driving kickreads, short role reads like when he ran that

550
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: inverted ball screen with Ad like that kind of stuff.

551
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of actions that I want to

552
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: see Bronny get good at to where I could be like,

553
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, third year of his deal, he can play

554
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes a night or good NBA team. That's the

555
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: path for him, in my opinion, if he wants to

556
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: be a primary on ball guard, like, there are guys

557
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: with way more pedigree than him that are not good

558
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: enough at that he I think he's really far away

559
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: from being like a okay, he's gonna be a fifteen

560
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: point for assists per game guy off the bench for

561
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: a good team, Like I just don't really necessarily see

562
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: that in his trajectory at this point. But if that's

563
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: his goal, that's fine. There's a pathway that He's got

564
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: the physical tools for it, but his skill development is

565
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: going to take so much work over the next few

566
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: years to get to that point. And so I just

567
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: hope he realizes the type of challenge that's going to be,

568
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: and I hope that people around him realize the type

569
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: of challenge it's going to be. Clearly a men, Thompson

570
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: is not coming out of the starting lineup, But what

571
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: about when Jabari Smith is.

572
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: Back from injury, he starts for Brooks. How do you

573
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: think that.

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Speaker 1: Lineup would work? Thank you for all the great content.

575
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I think Jabari Smith has got to come back to

576
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Speaker 1: the bench.

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Speaker 2: I think you have.

578
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Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Sam Vessini the other

579
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: day on his pod. What we're seeing right now from

580
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: the Rockets. I mean, they ended up losing that game

581
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: in Memphis last night, but like what we're seeing from

582
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: Houston right now is one of the most impressive stretches

583
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: of regular season basketball you'll ever see. Like they are

584
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: racking up wins against great teams night in and night out.

585
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: I have been talking recklessly on my show and on

586
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: other people's show about how I think the Rockets need

587
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: to make some sort of all in trade because I

588
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: think they have a chance to win the title this year.

589
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: That's how much I think this That Rockets roster can

590
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: contend athletically on both ends of the floor with the

591
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: top teams in the league. So like, you don't mess

592
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: with that. Even for Brooks. I think Brooks has been

593
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: one of the best role players in the league this year.

594
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: He was a huge part of their winning Boston with

595
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: his shooting. He has been great defensively all all season.

596
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: He had another twenty plus point game in Memphis last night.

597
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: I would leave Brooks in there, and I would just

598
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: bring Jabari Smith in and guess what, He's got to

599
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: fight for minutes with Cam Witmore, He's got to fight

600
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: for minutes with Jayshon Taate with and he's got to

601
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: earn it with those guys. In my opinion, I Jabari

602
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: is a good player, but he has a tendency to

603
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: settle for tough mid range shots. He hasn't converted spoted

604
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: possesions as well as he needs to be. He's a

605
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: good defender, but he as an athlete is just another

606
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: one of the guys there. So like, I think you

607
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: got to make Jabari Smith earn the right to regain

608
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: his spot in that rotation. Hello Jason, just a simple question.

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Speaker 1: Have you been impressed with the knicks of defense during

610
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Speaker 1: this recent stretch of games? Yes, I have, More specifically

611
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: though their transition attack. This has been something that when

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00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: the Knicks have been at their best this year, they've

613
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: played fast, they've gotten stops, and they've ran And I thought,

614
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: specifically the Nuggets game, what won them that game was

615
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: their transition pushes. They actually only turned Denver over I

616
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: think fourteen times, but they scored almost every time off

617
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: of those turnovers with quick runouts. And like, I've just

618
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: seen so many examples of that this year when the

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00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: Knicks look good, where it's og An Andobi running his

620
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: lane in transition, it's Michale Bridges running to the corner

621
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: in transition, it is Karl Anthony Towns trailing the play

622
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: in transition. It is like this, we play defense, we

623
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: get out and run, then we knock down shots. And

624
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: like so much of I talk about in terms of

625
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: the top teams in the league, it comes down to margins.

626
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: Where are you going to find ways to win? And

627
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: there are certain things that the Knicks are going to

628
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: struggle with, like the defensive inconsistency this year has primarily

629
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: centered around the kind of like undisciplined hedges and from

630
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: guys like Jalen Brunson and from Karl Anthony Towns, like

631
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: just not doing their job when teams hunt them to

632
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: actively attack the ball, get back in rotation or switch

633
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: and contain the ball well. Like those two guys have

634
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: been the issues, They're going to continue to be the issues.

635
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Even when your defense is at its best. There are

636
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: these entry points that people can go at in terms

637
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: of Brunson and Cat, so you have to find a

638
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: way to generate margins elsewhere. Have a unique set of

639
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: offensive talent because they have a stretch five and these

640
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: big rangy wings that can run the floor well, and

641
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: a lot of playmaking talent that the Knicks can really

642
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: be a good transition offense. And so again, like as

643
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: we look at the Knicks and their potential big picture

644
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: championship goals, I've view a certain number of things as

645
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: non negotiable. They've got to become a more consistent defensive

646
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: execution team because they need to force turnovers because it

647
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: unlocks one of the most important parts of their game

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Speaker 1: of their game, which is transition attack right and so again,

649
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Speaker 1: like you've got to think of it in the big picture.

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Speaker 1: It's not about beating anybody really other than Boston and Cleveland.

651
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Speaker 1: Right now, those are your ultimate goals. To get to

652
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Speaker 1: where you want to go, You've got to get through

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Speaker 1: Boston and Cleveland. And if you're going to beat Boston

654
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, you're gonna have to generate margin because Boston

655
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Speaker 1: in particular is going to relentlessly attack Karl Anthony Twons

656
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Speaker 1: and Jalen Brunson. And where you can create margin is

657
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Speaker 1: by forcing turnovers and getting out in transition. I think

658
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: those are easy ways to turn defense into offense more freely,

659
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Speaker 1: and I thought the Denver game was a good step

660
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: in that direction for the Knicks. All Right, it looks

661
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Speaker 1: like we got five more at this point. Hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you could just take a minute to

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Speaker 1: talk about Jason Tatum's improvement as a playmaker. I've been

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Speaker 1: really impressed with him as a game manager this season.

665
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: If you watch the Celtics games closely, for the most part,

666
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: Jason will start games off a little more passive while

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00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: their starting lineup is on the court and create shots

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Speaker 1: for them. Then Missoula will usually pull most of the

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Speaker 1: starters besides Tatum and Derek or Tatum and Holiday, which

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Speaker 1: is when he gets really aggressive scoring because he knows

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Speaker 1: he's still capable of scoring when the bench group.

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Speaker 2: Is more limited.

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Speaker 1: I found it interesting in last night's game against the Bulls,

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Speaker 1: closing the third quarter and in the fourth quarter, that

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Speaker 1: Boston was up fifteen to twenty points and every player

676
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Speaker 1: for Boston was hitting shots, yet still every possession Chicago

677
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: would send a double team at Tatum. I know about

678
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Speaker 1: a week ago you touched on Tatum's ISO this season

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Speaker 1: and how he's having one of the best ISO seasons

680
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Speaker 1: in recent NBA history because he didn't put up stats

681
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Speaker 1: like Sga or Jokis, because he's on such a great

682
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: team and a lot of people either diminish or don't

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Speaker 1: understand the actual impact he has on the game. We

684
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Speaker 1: just saw a team that was so scared of what

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00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: he would do to them in isolation, even down double digits,

686
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: knowing that doubling him would open and I would result

687
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: in an open shot Boston was making. For the most part,

688
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: they were still willing to do it, even if it

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Speaker 1: meant they were stopping him from getting to the basket.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious your opinion on how hard it'll be

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Speaker 1: to stop Boston when Drew and Jalen get out of

692
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: the shooting slumps thro in with Tatum basically being unstoppable

693
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Speaker 1: when you try to match him up one on one.

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Speaker 1: So on that as game plan, Like if I was

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Speaker 1: game planning for the Celtics, it depends on the roster

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Speaker 1: that I have. If I have excellent defensive personnel across

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Speaker 1: the board, guys that can all kind of guard in space,

698
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Speaker 1: and I've got good backside help defenders, I'm going to

699
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: want to switch contain and force them into ISOs and

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Speaker 1: hope that they settle for bad jump shots instead of

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Speaker 1: trying to go through my players. Right, But if I've

702
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Speaker 1: got some weak defensive personnel on the floor like Chicago does,

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Speaker 1: when you've got to Josh Giddy or Nicolavusevich that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing on the floor, you put yourself in a

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Speaker 1: situation where you can't really guard in space that well.

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Speaker 1: So then you start to make a simple calculation at

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Speaker 1: Boston's three point percentage, no one is really shooting that

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00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: well this year compared to last year except for Peyton Pritchard. Right,

709
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Speaker 1: So Tatum's this like all world ISO player, Boston's perimeter

710
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: shooters have not been that good this year. As a

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Speaker 1: game plan, you might think, if you have that type

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Speaker 1: of roster, that your best bet is to get the

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Speaker 1: ball out of Tatum's hands and force other people to

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Speaker 1: make shots. That said, inevitably, this story ends with Boston

715
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Speaker 1: running into a team that doesn't double that feels comfortable

716
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Speaker 1: leaving Tatum and Jaylen Brown one on one. When that happens,

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: it will be incumbent on Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum

718
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: to find ways to draw two to the ball. The

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Speaker 1: only way they're going to be able to do that

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Speaker 1: is if they score so effectively in those one on

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Speaker 1: one matchups at the rim, because if you do it

722
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: from the perimeter streaky, you'll have stretches where you make

723
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Speaker 1: two or three tough pull up jump shots in a row,

724
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Speaker 1: and then you'll miss two or three in a row.

725
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: But if they get consistently, if they have better balance

726
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: between settling and attacking, and they attack those, it will

727
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: become untenable for the defense to leave one on one coverages.

728
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Speaker 1: That's when they can bring two to the ball or

729
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: they can drive past that first guy and draw helpers

730
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Speaker 1: and they can make driving kick passes to get those

731
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: wide open threes again, Like it's you got to think

732
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Speaker 1: of it beyond the Chicago problem and more like what

733
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: about the OKC problem? Like what about what if they

734
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Speaker 1: run into a Knicks team and a Knicks team does

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Speaker 1: more switching, you know, like that sort of thing, Like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like you can't take Jalen Brunson and

737
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Speaker 1: settle for pull up jump shots. You've got to take

738
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Speaker 1: his ass to the basket. You can't take Carl Anthony

739
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: Towns in space and just take step back threes. You've

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Speaker 1: got to take him to the basket. Like there's Oklahoma

741
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Speaker 1: City is the real one that I would worry about

742
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Speaker 1: for Boston there because they have the personnel to switch

743
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: more effectively. But like that's gonna be the real issue.

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00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: I have been really impressed by Tatum as a playmaker

745
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: this year, and you can't deny the isolation numbers and

746
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: the jump shooting has been a really nice improvement. But

747
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: make no mistake, the reason why the Celtics beat the

748
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: shit out of the Mavericks last year was because Jason

749
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Tatum and Jala Brown drove past Luka Doncic didn't shoot

750
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Speaker 1: over Luka doncicch and so like again like, I think

751
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: the doubling will be something that Boston will see from

752
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: time to time in the postseason of Tatum, but inevitably

753
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: they will run into a matchup where Tatum and Jalen

754
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Brown are gonna have to break these defenses down in

755
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: more one on one situations. What do you think about

756
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: Adam Silver saying he's a fan of four to ten

757
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: minutes four ten minute quarters in basketball? How do you

758
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: think this would impact the NBA? Are you four or

759
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: against it? Thanks for doing a great job and always

760
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: dropping insightful content. I'm a big fan of your show.

761
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for supporting the show. It means

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00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: a lot to me. I think shortening the quarters is

763
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: really stupid. The NBA has one problem, one big problem

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00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: with our television situation urgency. This is something I've been

765
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: harping on NonStop. There are lots of things that could

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: be better. Officiating could be a little better. Yeah, right

767
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: now teams are taking a lot of threes, but I

768
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: do think defenses will force teams to adapt. There there

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00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: are things with the broadcasting where it can be a

770
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: little podca has to eat in a little less. Let's

771
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: talk about the game. There's a little like media companies

772
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: focusing on player movement instead of the quality of the basketball.

773
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm there for all that stuff, but those are those,

774
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: to me are small issues compared to the much larger issue,

775
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: which is that since the year, since the year MJ

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00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: retired in nineteen ninety eight two, now we went from

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: having there's almost nothing on TV. You sit on your

778
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: couch on a Wednesday night and the NBA game that's

779
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: on is one of the few options to watch, and yeah,

780
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch that game. But now there are thousands

781
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of television options, thousands and thousands

782
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: and thousands of smartphone options. You're having a hard time

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Speaker 1: getting people's attention. That said, sports still is one of

784
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: the biggest draws when it comes to people's attention.

785
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: The NFL is a great example of this.

786
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Speaker 1: The NFL continues to put up monster television ratings even

787
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: though there have been so many more options that have

788
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: risen to the surface. Why urgency Every regular season game

789
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: feels huge, Every postseason game is single elimination. The urgency

790
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: is off the charts. Okay, the bottom line is an

791
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: NBA team can lay an egg three games in a

792
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: row and it really doesn't matter. I rooted for the

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00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Lakers as they have dicked around at the bottom of

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00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: the standings for two consecutive years and barely crawled up

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: to the seven or eight seed and got into the

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00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: playoffs at the end, and they haven't cared. This year

797
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: has been a little bit better on that front. But

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00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: like the reality is is, you can afford to be

799
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: bad for a while in the NBA. The Pacers were

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00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: awful to start the year, didn't matter. The mass have

801
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: been pretty bad this year because of injuries. If Luca

802
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: and Kyrie come back, it's not gonna matter. Like there's

803
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: the Suns got off to a great start, now they're terrible.

804
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: The Warriors got off to a great start, now they're terrible.

805
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Like both of those teams could easily rebound with a trade.

806
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: The NBA regular season is too damn long. I believe

807
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: that the NBA regular season to sixty six games will

808
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: space the games out more so that more players play

809
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: more often in every game than has about twenty percent

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: more urgency. And then if you want to do a

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00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: play in tournament, fine, but don't let twenty teams in

812
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: You got to get that back down to sixteen. There

813
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: has to be a more realistic like, oh, half the

814
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: teams don't make the playoffs instead of oh, two thirds

815
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Speaker 1: of the teams do make the playoffs. Urgency is the problem.

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00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: It's the number one thing that could be that can

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: be addressed to actually lead to tangible results. People do

818
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: want to watch our best athletes compete when it matters,

819
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: but it just doesn't matter enough in the NBA, and

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00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: that is that is the main issue.

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Speaker 2: Guys like us, people who.

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Speaker 1: Really enjoy the game, We're going to get a great

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00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: deal of enjoyment and appreciation out of the NBA regular season.

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00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: The casual fan is going to tune in and out

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: based on when they think things matter, and there's just

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: not a lot of times where.

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Speaker 2: In the NBA regular season. Hey, Jason, big fan of

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Speaker 2: the show, and I feel you're the best in the business.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's a very kind thing to say. My

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Speaker 2: question is in regards to.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers starting five, what do you think of a

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Speaker 1: lineup of Lebron Austin, Dorian Finney, Smith Ruey, and Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 2: I feel that.

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Speaker 1: Lineup would be good able to switch one through five

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Speaker 1: and allow Ruie to shift back to his original position.

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Speaker 1: You talk about how great Lebron is as a hub

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Speaker 1: for the offense, and with him and Austin trading point

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Speaker 1: guard duties, I feel like this could work well. Plus

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Speaker 1: it allows them to play big and even if Lebron

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Speaker 1: doesn't commit to defense every night, they are a bigger

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Speaker 1: team and Lebron still has the quickness to handle guards

842
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: but could still but could also punish teams with the

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Speaker 1: size of that position. What also, would love to know

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Speaker 1: your thoughts and keep up the work. So here's the

845
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: thing it. I talked about this with the Bucks earlier.

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Speaker 1: There are these the defensive responsibilities you want to fulfill.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers are not good as a switching unit in

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Speaker 1: the regular season because Lebron and Ruy. Lebron is a

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Speaker 1: great rebounder and great defender who doesn't try the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of the time in the regular season, and Ruy

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Speaker 1: Hachimura is a mediocre to bad defender and a mediocre

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Speaker 1: to bad rebounder. So when you couple that with Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves who's athletically limited, and you put all three of

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Speaker 1: those guys on the floor at the same time, and

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Speaker 1: you start switching, you start end up being ending up

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Speaker 1: in situations where Anthony Davis is on the perimeter. When

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is on the perimeter, you need Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Rui and Austin to be athletic around the rim as

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Speaker 1: helpers and as rebounders.

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Speaker 2: And it's just a lot to ask.

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Speaker 1: So, like, I actually think that this is why the

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Speaker 1: Max Christi into the starting lineup thing has worked as

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00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: well as it has. It's allowed the Lakers to do

864
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: less switching with their five man because Max is more

865
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: capable of chasing over the top of screens. It allows

866
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: them to basically keep into more favorable men, keep Anthony

867
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: Davis closer to the ram where he can defend and rebound. Now,

868
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: to your point, I don't Let's say the Lakers trade Ruie,

869
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: which I think is still a good chance before the deadline.

870
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Let's say a different version of that lineup, so it's Austin,

871
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Dorian van do Do Lebron ad. Could I see them trying

872
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: switching in the postseason. Yeah, with that type of lineup, sure,

873
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: because all those guys can switch, and because those guys

874
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: would be able to end the postseason, because Vando is

875
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: an excellent defender and an excellent rebounder, you suddenly have

876
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: more of that kind of talent on the floor. Lebron

877
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: now in the playoffs is trying harder, so he becomes

878
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: an excellent defender, excellent rebounder. Now all of a sudden,

879
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: you have the personnel to pull off that type of look.

880
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: But that's why I've been talking about that with the Lakers,

881
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Like I think there's one through five switching should be

882
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: more of a situational thing and not like a base

883
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: scheme because of the fact that they're just not good

884
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: at it. Good at it in the regular season. Since

885
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy's injury, Cade's usage and turnover rate have skyrocketed,

886
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: and while initially we got away with it, the last

887
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: few L's have all had the same thing, teams realizing

888
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: no else can dribble or break down the d from

889
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: half court, so they end up trapping and blitzing him

890
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: in every pick and roll. I don't believe this is sustainable.

891
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: If the Pistons are so serious about making the playoffs,

892
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: Cad will wear out and we don't have the high

893
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: end talent to keep losing the turnover differential and expect

894
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: to keep winning games. I think a trade for CJ,

895
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: McCollum or Sexton using Tim Hardaway Junior's expiring plus seconds

896
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: is a cost effective solution to add ball handling, slash

897
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: scoring punch without sacrificing the future. But no one in

898
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: the Pistons community really knows how tradeing will approach this deadline.

899
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 1: My question is would you make this deal for CJ

900
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: and Sexton to ease the load off of Caid and

901
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: if not, what can be done from a coaching schematic

902
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: standpoint to cut down on his usage turnovers. Thanks as

903
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: always for your content. So I was watching the Pacers

904
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: game this morning, actually is a game I wanted to

905
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: get back to, and so Kid's not actually facing blitzes

906
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: or traps very often, He's facing a lot of like

907
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: traditional coverages that are just the way traditional coverages look

908
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: against really good offensive players. There's a thing that happens

909
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: when you get upgraded in terms of your level of

910
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: respect around the league, where you face aggressive traditional coverages,

911
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: whereas there's a thing that you face around the league

912
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: when people don't really fear you, where you face passive

913
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: traditional coverages. A really basic way to look at that

914
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: is the size the type of drop coverage that they face.

915
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: He's not facing traps, he's facing big at the level.

916
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: That's a aggressive traditional coverage, meaning the guy guarding the

917
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: screener is showing at the level of the screen and

918
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: then recovering back. He spent a lot of time attacking

919
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton in the Pacers game using Malik Beasley. They're

920
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: using a basic hedge in recover scheme. That's literally what

921
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: the Pacers use with Tyre's Halliburton against all primary ball handlers.

922
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: They'll have Tyree's hedge out, meaning briefly put two on

923
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: the ball and then Tyree's is going to recover and

924
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: keep his hands up and try to deflect that pass.

925
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: You got to steal on Kate Cunningham on one of those, right,

926
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: But Malik Beasley's gonna go like he's gonna set the screen,

927
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna slip, and he's gonna run out to the

928
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: three point line. He's gonna catch a pass there. By

929
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: the way, Cad did hit Malik on that multiple times

930
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: in the first half. He just missed them, right. That's

931
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: part of basketball. But when you're facing a bad offensive

932
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: player or an offensive player that no one's really scared of.

933
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: They are gonna be like, let's run a deep drop,

934
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: stay out of rotation. Like, okay, now Malik Beasley's going

935
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: to set a screen. Tyrese might linger for a second,

936
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna hard hedge because he doesn't fear you,

937
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: because there's not that level of respect. Caid has now

938
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: entered into the star ball handler tier, where now he

939
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: is gonna see a big at the level every single

940
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: time he runs a ball screen, he is gonna see

941
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: a hard hedge every single time he attacks a guard

942
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: in a ball screen. That's just part of the job. Now,

943
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: to your point, I still think Kaid's been navigating that

944
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: pretty well. But there's something to be said about you're

945
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: talking about, which is there's not enough skill on the

946
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: court to quickly translate that into buckets. There were a

947
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: couple of, for instance, kickout passes that Caid ran in

948
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: ball screens that end up in Ron Hollins's hands. And

949
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: Ron Hollind's gonna make some threes, but he's gonna miss

950
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: some threes, right, Like, he's gonna probably miss more than

951
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: he makes by a lot, right, So, like that's just

952
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: a reality of this roster now, to your point, do

953
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: I think that the Pistons could benefit from a secondary

954
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: ball handler, Yes, Would I do anything that sacrifices future

955
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: second flexibility for that, No, that's where like, Yeah, if

956
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: you can get a CJ. McCollum, I think Sexton might

957
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: be a little bit more expensive. But let's say you

958
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: can get a CJ.

959
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: McCollum. If you can get a c.

960
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: J McCollum without including any first round draft compensation in

961
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: giving up only one of these veteran players that's on

962
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: a contract, I do think it would be worthwhile because

963
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: you are probably going to end up in a playoff

964
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: series with Kid. If you're gonna end up in a

965
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: playoff series with Kid, you want to see what it

966
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: looks like if he doesn't have to do absolutely everything.

967
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: So it's not about winning the title. It's about getting

968
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: good experience for Kate. And one of the best ways

969
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: to do that is give him a legitimate experience in

970
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: the sense that he needs a secondary ball handler that

971
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: can spell him when he's on the bench and run

972
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: second side action make life a little bit easier for him. Also,

973
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: guess what if it's CJ. McCollum that is setting that

974
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: screen and slipping out of it. He's going to have

975
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: a opportunity to create with an advantage, and he's a

976
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: better ball handler playmaker type, so he'll be able to

977
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: help capitalize on those situations better than a Malik Beasley

978
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: can when the shots not falling right. So, like again,

979
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to that kind of move, just everything

980
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: has to be within the concept, the context of the

981
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: big picture goal, which is this team has real potential

982
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: in the long run, because Kate is a superstar in

983
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: the making, because I do like Jade and Ivy, because

984
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: I do like the pieces that they have around him.

985
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: So it's about being delicate and cheap in that regard.

986
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: But yes, if you can get CJ. McCollum for cheap,

987
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: I do think that's a move that would allow the

988
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Pistons a little bit more of a traditional ball handling

989
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: structure as they head into the postseason. Last one, Jason,

990
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: you've been advocating for Cam Johnson to be traded to

991
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: Golden State to fill the second option role. Laughing my

992
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: ass off, Like what, Cam is a great shooter, but

993
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: he can't even average over twenty points per game on

994
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the nets. That's why we've been calling you crazy for

995
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: the Cam Johnson obsession. Zach Lavine is the obvious ideal option,

996
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: even if it costs more. Problem with going with the

997
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: zach Lavine type is you have to include Andrew Wiggins

998
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: Draymond Green. That just makes it infinitely more difficult. Also,

999
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: just as you get into those big salaries, because the

1000
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: Warriors have six players that make between five and ten million,

1001
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: you just have to piece too many of them together

1002
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: and it becomes a depth a problem with your the

1003
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: amount of depth that you're losing. I'm not saying don't

1004
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: make a zach Lavine deal. I'd be happy to make

1005
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: a zach Lavine deal. I think a Jimmy Butler deal

1006
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: would be good too. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying Cam

1007
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Johnson is also an option. The reason why is I

1008
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: think Cam Johnson has an offensive skill set that works

1009
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: really well in Golden State system. So a couple things.

1010
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: First of all, came Johnson's better on the ball than

1011
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: you think. He's run one hundred and seventy six actions

1012
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: this year, so ball screens, post ups ISOs. He's run

1013
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy six actions with passes and generated

1014
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five points. It's good amount over

1015
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: a point per possession. That's really solid. Of the ninety

1016
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: one players in the league this year to take at

1017
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: least one hundred pull up jump shots off the dribble,

1018
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: he ranks thirteenth out of those ninety one. In EFFECTI

1019
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: field goal percentage at fifty four percent, he gets one

1020
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: point zero eight points per pull up jump shot. That's

1021
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: really good. He's also shooting fifty two percent from the

1022
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: field coming off of off ball screens, seventy one percent

1023
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: in effective field goal percentage when you weigh it for threes,

1024
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: one point four points per shot. Of the twenty eight

1025
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: players in the NBA that have run at least fifty

1026
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: actions off of screens and taken shots, So coming off

1027
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: of an off ball screen and shooting of the twenty

1028
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: eight players have done that at least fifty times, he

1029
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: ranks number one in the entire NBA at it. That

1030
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: is a specific skill set that perfectly fits into Golden

1031
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: State system. So he is real on ball pop, great

1032
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: pull up shooter, and a great off screen shooter. I

1033
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 1: keep talking about the concept of value for a team

1034
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: versus value in a vacuum. The example I always use

1035
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: is Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray's value to the Denver Nuggets

1036
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: is much greater than it would be elsewhere in the

1037
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: league because his pull up shooting over the top is

1038
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: so immensely valuable. His ability to score against switches with

1039
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: Jokichen the two man game is so immensely valuable. But

1040
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: put him in another situation where he's with a less

1041
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: dynamic ballscreen partner and where he's actually depended on night

1042
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: and night out to be great, You're gonna be wishing

1043
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: for more from Jamal Murray. Right if Cam Johnson was

1044
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: the best player on a really good team, or if

1045
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: he was in a situation where they already had a

1046
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: bunch of ball handling and they just need him to

1047
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: take catch and shoot threes and to drive closeouts and

1048
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of defense. His salary slot

1049
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense that point. But on a Warriors

1050
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: team that could really use a guy that is consistently

1051
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: good as a scorer coming off of action off ball

1052
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: and on ball, he is such a perfect shoe in

1053
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: fit in the Warriors system that I think his value there,

1054
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: especially on a team that is so utterly devoid of

1055
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: scoring talent at the top He's such a natural fit

1056
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: there that his value would be greater there than it

1057
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: would be elsewhere in the league. That's why I'm advocating

1058
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: for Cam Johnson. If you could do that and not

1059
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: give up Wiggins and not give up Jonathan Kaminga, now

1060
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: we're talking about a roster that has some real upside.

1061
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I like that as an option. I like Levine as

1062
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: an option. I like Jimmy as an option. I'm just saying,

1063
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: don't discount Cam Johnson as an option because he's a

1064
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: better offensive player than you probably think he is. All Right, guys,

1065
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: that's all I have for today. I'm also out of

1066
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: town for the weekend. I'm going skiing. I'm leaving tomorrow

1067
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: for my annual ski trip to Breckenridge. I will be

1068
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: back in time for the trade deadline, so I will

1069
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: have a trade deadline reaction when I get home. I

1070
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: also bring my to go gear, so like if I

1071
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: end up in Breck and a trade goes down, I

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Speaker 1: will record something at that point. But there's a chance

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Speaker 1: if nothing goes down that I won't see you guys

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Speaker 1: until Wednesday. As always, I sincerely appreciate you guys for

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Speaker 1: supporting me and supporting the show, and I will see

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Speaker 1: you guys then the volume. What's up guys, As always,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you for listening to and supporting OOPS tonight.

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Speaker 1: It would actually be really helpful for us if you

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Speaker 1: guys would take a second and leave a rating and

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Speaker 1: a review. As always, I appreciate you guys supporting us,

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Speaker 1: but if you could take a minute to do that,

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Speaker 1: I'd really appreciate it.