1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Star in Price jollowing the Scott and now your hosts 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's 6 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: oh I didn't know that. Welcome into Talking Cowboys presented 7 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: by Tostitos, helping fans get in on the game and 8 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: our favorite chip and our favorite dip of Talking Cowboys. 9 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the virtual SWBC Mortgage Studios from 10 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the Star and Frisco. We are glad to be with 11 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: you here on a say It with your Chest Thursday. 12 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: No shows tomorrow, so we will be saying it with 13 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: our chest all day today and we're gonna have to 14 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: do the fan questions or excuse me, the fan pick 15 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: thems a little bit differently today, but we'll figure that 16 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: out as we go along. As always, back with Isaiah 17 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: stand back heck my Harrison. No Rob Phillips again this week. 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: We will try and get him back next week. But gentlemen, 19 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: how are we doing? As another day of virtual that's okay, 20 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: but we'll be back together soon, Isaiah. I mean, everything 21 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to look forward to for this Cowboys team this week, 22 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: and hey, you've got a new year you're celebrating as well. Absolutely, man, 23 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. You know, say, y'all are looking good. 24 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: You know, we're coming up on another year with this podcast. 25 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be you know, obviously, this is the 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: kind of coming to the end of year two. You know, 27 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: hopefully we have a playoff run to go handle this year, 28 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: so I'm really just looking forward to the future. Man. 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm blessed to have this opportunity and I'm 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: happy to be around drawn as always. What was the 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: what did you say earlier? What did you say? Kyle? 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: You said something? You said a lot, man, I was 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I was trying to take it out. Oh yeah. It 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: was just basically a big intro and then a new 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: year on the way. And it is weird that Isaiah 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: brought it up. I mean, this is the end of 37 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the second season with this group of talking Cowboys, and 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: it feels like yesterday that we were in the studio 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: for the first time together, in the at least virtual 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: studio for the first time as well. But we're almost 41 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: through our entire second year as a group, and I 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: know you're having some fun. No I am. I'm jealous 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: of you right now. Man, You're in the studio and 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and wishing that I was in the studio. 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's why my brains blinked out there 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: for a second. Kyle Yeoman's But yeah, man, this is this, dude, 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: I this has been outstanding. And loving the season that 48 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: we're having. I'm with Isaiah on that. Man, this is 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: like to finish up the second season of doing this 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and the team beyond the all time high that they're 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: on right now. I mean, nothing can be better. Man. 52 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: We want this to go all the way to the 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Baby. So I'm just I'm feeling good, man, 54 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about the wid this year has gone, 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: and just feeling good about twenty twenty two. Well, and 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: with that being said, it is a complete turnaround of 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Of course twenty one. Because of the 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: fact that six and ten and eleven and four anyway 59 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: you shape it, spin it whatever, it's way better to 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: deal with on a Cowboys landscape. But heck, when when 61 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you look back at this year, What do you feel 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: like it's going to be remembered for? Because I feel 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl may be kind of thrown into 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: that that twenty two conversation of a year if they 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: were to make it that far. But in terms of 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: twenty one, what do you feel like it's going to 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: be remember the most man? Dak is back. Dak is back. 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: We remembered how twenty twenty went, and you were so, 69 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I guess uncertain about how he was going to come 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: back from the ankle, and just the way that he 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: came back at twenty twenty. I think we all twenty 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. I think we all had our reservations about 73 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: his health, and I think he's checked a lot of 74 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: those boxes. Also, dan Quinn is gonna be a big 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: part of twenty twenty one, and just man, how could 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: one man make that big of a difference on your squad? 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: And that's just his impact on our twenty twenty one season. 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: So Dak and dan Quinn are going to be the 79 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: narratives that I would write for twenty twenty one, The 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: narratives that I'm coming with our cultural change and identity. 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Those are the things I've been preaching ever since we 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: went on a defensive coordinator hunt in this past all season. 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: As soon as that man, dan Quinn, as you just 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: mentioned his name popped up, those are the two words 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I started throwing around. And I'm not sure if you 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: guys truly believe what I was saying, but hey, you 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: guys are seeing it now. Is it fair to say 88 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: is it fair to say kind of you? Going back 89 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: to what Heckmo was saying one man turn around, that 90 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: it is a one man turnaround that dan Quinn deserves 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: that big of a fraction of the credit. Or is 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: it even just as simple as this is a defense 93 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: that's finally healthy again with guys like Gallimore and DeMarcus Lawrence, 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. I know Michael Parsons thrown into the fold 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: helps that as well, but is it just is it 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: more of a personnel change on the defensive flipper? Is 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: it a defensive coordinator thing? Ecma, I believe wholeheartedly that 98 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: is dan Quinn. And I've been, you know, just trying 99 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: to wrack my brain on how one man can have 100 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: the kind of impact that he's had. But culturally, just 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: like Isaiah just mentioned, his cultural impact has been for 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: you could see it. It's night and day from where 103 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: this team was last year. I think this is the 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: first time in a long time that I've watched the 105 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Cowboy team from top to bottom that's playing with that 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: reckless abandon especially our defense, the way that they have 107 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: been getting after teams. Now, obviously this thing didn't just 108 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: change overnight, but gradually these guys have started to trend 109 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: up and his impact has been it's been amazing. It's 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: been immediate, and players that like Jeron Curse when he 111 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, when when Dan went out and got guys 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: like that, you didn't think that, Okay, what kind of 113 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: impact would Geron Curse have on this squad? Man a 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: huge impact on the squad. There were names last year, 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Robinson at cornerback, and only reason why I bring him 116 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: up because I was watching the take from last year 117 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Hill getting burnt down. But just guys that were on 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: our squad that just obviously wouldn't have been able to 119 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: play in dan quinn system. I just I love the 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: physicality of this team. I love the way that they play, 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's all due to Dan Quinn. Absolutely. 122 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, I think is obviously a huge part of it. 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's wholeheartedly him, but he's definitely 124 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: at least three quarters of this thing. There's a huge 125 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: contributions list. Obviously when you start thinking about organization or 126 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: football team man starting. You know, obviously Will McClay, Coach McCarthy, 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: all these other guys that play a huge part in 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: making sure or that they execute the drink, the thought 129 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: process and the dreams that dan Quinn came in with. 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, obviously they all bought in. And yes, dan 131 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Queenn came in with this new British regime. You know, 132 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: there's doing this new mindset. But it takes the remaining 133 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the other pieces on the board to actually buy in 134 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: and say, okay, cool, this is the direction we're going. 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: They didn't give him any points of resistance. They didn't 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: say this is how we've always done it. They didn't 137 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: say this is the way we feel like it should 138 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: be done. They say, okay, dan Quin, what kind of 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: support do you need? We're here to help you out 140 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: in that regard, and hey, whatever you need from us, 141 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: let's make it happen. Are you typing an essay? Are 142 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: you typing an article while you're doing the show? I said, 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: what was the click of the clackity of the keyboard? 144 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Was that you? Was it? Click my hands? Ah, I 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: don't know. I heard it. I heard a clickity clackity. Heck, 146 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: are you writing an article over there? I didn't know 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: what was going on. It was funny. I'm not I'm 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: not doing none of that, man, No, I'm not. But hey, 149 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: while we're talking about this stuff, I know we don't 150 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: have rap to go over the news and notes today, 151 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: but I have two things that that kind of happened 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours and I would like 153 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: to bring to the table. Let's do it, one of 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: which will put up, yeah, a lot of one of 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: which will put a lot of people's minds at ease 156 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and let you guys know exactly where Dan Quinn is 157 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: at in terms of his commitment to the Dallas Cowboys. 158 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: He turned down the ability to go and interview with 159 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Can we here be just anay and 160 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: give a little golf flight for that? He wanted no 161 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: parts of that. I'm from what I understand, there's a 162 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: two week window where he can go and interview for 163 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: other Jeff, you don't coach, and he said, now I'm 164 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: good Jacksonville and keep that now there is I like that. 165 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: That was that was great news. That was great news 166 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: to see that he passed up the Jacksonville interview. But 167 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: you know, hey, as as coaching vacancies that things come open, 168 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll turn down another. Maybe it was 169 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: just Jayville being the dumpster fire that had no like. Now, 170 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: y'all go ahead, keep that. I don't want that. There 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: is a report out that he will actually interview for 172 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: that job after the season is over. He just didn't 173 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: want to do it while the season was still happening. 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: It's ultimately what it was. But that's say I'm just 175 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: sign right there. I'm just saying that is very important, 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: key passive information. Hey, butau it is key. However, Shot Khan, 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: mister Khan and Jacksonville Jaguars don't have that kind of 178 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: time to be sitting around and waiting. That's a disadvantage 179 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: to organizations that need to fulfill a role at the 180 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: head coaching position, having to wait for some of these 181 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: really good coaches that are going through the playoffs. They 182 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: if they wait around it and try to interview those guys, 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and those guys decide not they're in the situations where 184 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: their hands were tied and they don't have not even 185 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: their first, second, or third choices. So, even though that 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: might be the word out there, I don't think that 187 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in a position to sit around and wait 188 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: that long. It also might help out the fact that 189 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: dan Quinn can sit and wait for the right opportunity. 190 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: He does have to necessarily jump at a job for 191 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: a head coaching position in the NFL because he knows 192 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: that if he can continue doing what he's doing in Dallas, 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: if he can continue being a fantastic coordinator like he 194 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: had both with Seattle and now of course here, he's 195 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna get those opportunities and they're gonna be better opportunities 196 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: other than Jacksonville moving forward. If you're Kellen Moore, do 197 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to pass up on head coaching 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: jobs right now? And a second part of that question, 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: and I'll direct this to heckma first, but do you 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: feel like Kellen Moore is ready for a head coaching 201 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: job should one of those open up for him? You know, 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that I guess I'm one 203 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: of a few people that feel like Kellen Moore is 204 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: If you have guys like Cliff Keysbury, the one of 205 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, the younger coaches that are coming into the league. 206 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: That was the one thing that people questioning about them, 207 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: their ability to lead a locker room full of grown millionaires. 208 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, I believe that Kellen Moore, although we don't 209 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: know much about his personality, UM, I just feel as 210 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: though it would be hard pressed for him not to 211 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: be actively pursuing one of these great thirty two jobs 212 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: that are out there. And I think he's ready. Man, 213 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: I think he has the offense um as well. Uh 214 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: that would that would compete at in the NFL, so 215 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now, um, and there there are 216 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,239 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks and I just look at the Jacksonville opportunity. 217 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: When you have a young quarterback like they have and 218 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: a young team, you know, that may be ideal for him. 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose Kelly be honestly, I don't 220 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: like this gives me the hevgv's just talking about him 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: leave it. But at the same time, you know, that's 222 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have. That just speaks to 223 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the talent that we have on this coaching staff. Yeah, yeah, 224 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: and I agree. I don't honestly believe that either one 225 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: of those our coordinators, the Dallas Cowboys coordinators, want to leave. 226 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: I truly don't. I don't think that either one of 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: them want a head coaching position. I don't. I don't 228 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: get the vibe that Keller Moore is so just like 229 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: genuineeing to go ahead and just take on the leadership 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: role of an entire NFL team. Don't don't don't see that. 231 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I also don't believe that Dan Quinn wants to rush 232 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: back to the pressures of being the head coach as 233 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: well when he's doing so well here as a defensive coordinator. 234 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: So I don't get there. I don't get the sense 235 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: that either one of those guys who going to leave, 236 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: regardless of the attention that they might receive. But I 237 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: do have one thing that I am kind of kind 238 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: of sat about fellas. Yea, yeah, the AFC beat us again. 239 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: The AFC beat us again, and they took one of 240 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: one of Dallas Cowboys players yesterday. From my understanding, what 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: a man. They Debra Broncos stole Justin Hamilton of the 242 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: off the practice squad. And I'm not happy about that. 243 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Why about that at all? Why are you not happy 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: about that he's been cut and brought back and waived 245 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: and then come back, and he's kind of gone back 246 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: and forth and then finally somebody picked him up off 247 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: of waivers. He wasn't gonna play if these guys stay 248 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: healthy at the d tackle spot, why why are you 249 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: upset about it? Because he's a good player, He's a 250 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: good hungry player. He plays hard, he's effective, he makes plays, 251 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: and he had a big impact in that game against 252 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Denver when he when he was called to duty. So 253 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, not not only did Denver already beat us, right, 254 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: and they feel good about that because they put out 255 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the script on how to beat the Dallas Cowboys, and 256 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: now they're coming back instilling players that we might need 257 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: to rely on next year because hey, let's face it, 258 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: we're not retaining everybody next year. That's not good, but 259 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: we don't We can worry about that in the off season, 260 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: but the reality is we're not getting everybody back next year, 261 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: so we're gonna take some applacement guys. There's nobody leaving 262 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: at D tackle. I mean, all those other guys are 263 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: young Gallimore, hill Osa, Diggi Zuoa. There you're throwing DeMarcus 264 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence on the interior. I mean, all these guys are 265 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: young pieces that I feel like if there's a position 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: to not be upset about losing a guy ad, it 267 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: would probably be d Tackle Now that absolutely feel you. Man, 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: Hamilton was a guy that was coming in the spot 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: duty when God's was going down, and he was playing 270 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: his butt off and so and not only did the 271 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: Broncos coming beat us, like he said, they left what 272 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: they left with one of ours scathered him out at 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: the same time. So he did too damn bit of 274 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: a job first day. But I'm with you. You know, 275 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: we got players like that, and maybe you know I've 276 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: heard that the whispers of maybe through the salary cap 277 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: or whatever happens, that this team is gonna not look 278 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: the same next year. But man, I want to live 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: in the now, yea now where we are. But also Kyle, 280 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: I just want to say this, um, as we're giving 281 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: these coaches their flowers, Joe Philbin, I want to give 282 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: coach Joe Philbin his flowers right now because when you 283 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: go back and you watch the tape for when we 284 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: were going through the loll and the running game and 285 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: some of the things that was happening happening with our 286 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: offensive line, man, he had the ability to rectify, uh, 287 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: some of the shortcomings of our offensive line. And that's 288 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: just man. Offensive line coaches are don't come a dime 289 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: a dozen. And I've always believed that the fourth times 290 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: played coach on your on your on your team should 291 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: be your offensive line coach. You look around the league, man, 292 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: and you see the impact that offensive line coaches make, 293 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: and he has had a tremendous impact on this team 294 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I think his name should be on 295 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: that award. He should have his name played on there 296 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: for two years consecutive. You know, it should be twenty 297 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty one twenty two because last year 298 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: he had his hands all completely full, obviously trying to 299 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: figure that thing out with the wounded offensive line that 300 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: we had. And now he piggyback that with a healthy 301 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: team for the most part, and he's still finding ways 302 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: to address issues on the offensive front and still trying 303 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: to find ways to be successful. Yeah, and he's going 304 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to get those guys to peek at the right time. 305 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what his whole goal, to his 306 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: whole mindset is. Despite, like Heckma said, what he called 307 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: the lull that middle of the season where there was 308 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: a lot of revolving door and it wasn't working out necessarily. 309 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: He wants those guys to be ready when it matters most. 310 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: And speaking of that, Tyrant Smith limited in practice yesterday, 311 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: so he has really the green light to get going 312 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: again this week. And Stephen Jones talked about it, Jerry 313 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: did as well. They hope that Tyrant Smither. They are 314 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: very hopeful that Tyrann Smith will be back this week. 315 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, let's talk about the 316 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: offense again. This offense versus the Arizona defense, Arizona forcing 317 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 1: two and a half turnovers per game on the defensive 318 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: side of the football, how do the Cowboys avoid giving 319 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: into that and have some success against that Cardinals defense? 320 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Will we return here on talking Cowboys. There's nothing as 321 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: unique as our eyes, which is why Selor pioneers ways 322 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: to make lenses as unique as you. 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But second segment here talking Cowboys 369 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: presented by Tostidos, helping fans get in on the game. 370 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: And let's talk about this Cowboys offense versus the Cardinals defense. 371 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: And we mentioned it yesterday that the Cowboys offense is 372 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: putting up historically good numbers at home this season. There 373 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: the top offense in the league whenever they play at home, 374 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: over thirty four points per game, over four hundred yards 375 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: per game. And they continued that last week, of course 376 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: against the Washington football team. And David Hellman actually wrote 377 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: a really good article on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I 378 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: encourage you to check it out. It's talking about how 379 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: this week presents an opportunity to make a statement. A 380 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: lot of the pushback after the fifty six fourteen win 381 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: over Washington was the fact that you haven't done it 382 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: against a quote unquote good team. And this is a 383 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: good team, even though they're a bit banged up and 384 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: they don't have DeAndre Hopkins. This is a good team 385 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals. So is this the best opportunity 386 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: to make a statement maybe since the Kansas City Chiefs game, Isaiah, 387 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: because it really hasn't been that way just because of 388 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: what schedule has been handed to you the last couple 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: of weeks. Yes, and I agree on both sides of 390 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: the party. So I agree with the crowd that says 391 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys haven't beaten and destroyed anybody like that of 392 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: great value. Totally get it. But I also understand if 393 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys perspective, it's like, Hey, we're going 394 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: to play who shows up on our schedule, So don't 395 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: don't don't shoot the messenger. You know, we just take 396 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: care of We just knocked down the pins that that 397 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: show up. So I understand it from both sides of things. 398 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: And to answer your question, Kyle, Yes, this will be 399 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: the next greatest opportunity, even through for the next two games, 400 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: and so the greatest opportunity we have in the remainder 401 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: of the season to prove that what you're doing is real, 402 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: that what you have is real, that it's not a fluke, 403 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: that you're not just the big bully of the the 404 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: NFC West that's running around NFC's running around beating people up. 405 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to show that, Hey, we shut 406 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: down Kyler Murray, one of the respect backs in the league. 407 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: We get shut down Zach Erst, We get shut down 408 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: these guys offensively and then defensively. Some of the guys 409 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: that we're gonna face. Tyren Smith, please come back to 410 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: this week because we need you against Chandler Jones. We 411 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: need we need our blocking against Chandler Jones because he 412 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: will wreck the game and take care of him. To 413 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: the Baker, one of the league's respective he's coming up 414 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: in the game, Guy Murphy, and guys like that. So 415 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: there's guys that can present some issues on this team, 416 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: and they are a well respected organization, not even just team, 417 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: a well respected organization in this league of twenty twenty one. Yeah, 418 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: for me, guys, it's hard to dig us that argument 419 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: about you know, saying basically, the Cowboys aren't playing anybody. 420 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: You know. I watched enough football over the years to 421 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: remember when the Patriots were playing the Miami Dolphins and 422 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody. The Buffalo Bills didn't have anybody, 423 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, and nobody even questioned their plight in the 424 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: AFC and how they got to the playoffs. But now 425 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. The goal post is moving each and 426 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: every week. We lose to the Denver Broncos, we're horrible. 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: We lose to the Raiders, were horrible. Oh but then 428 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: when we beat New Orleans that was okay, that wasn't 429 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: That's an ugly win, man. I'm not going with all 430 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: of that. You know, Like like you said, you play 431 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: who's on your schedule. You beat who's on the field 432 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: with you. And that's the job. That's the assignment that 433 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: we have when we come into this game. If we 434 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: win seventeen sixteen, that's gonna be critics that jump out 435 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: the cake and say, oh, look at that, you're only 436 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: one by one point. I don't give I don't care, right, 437 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to win. I want to 438 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: take it just like this all the way through the playoffs. 439 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is you're you're right when 440 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: you when you talk about the players that they have. 441 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: But guys, let's just say go back to the Raiders 442 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: the Las Vegas game and Dockway Crosby. Those guys were formidable. 443 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: They had sacks, they had that defense was something. You know, Look, 444 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: you have to give them their respect. This is a 445 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: copycat League. I expect for the Arizona Cardinals to come 446 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: in here and play us exactly like other teams have 447 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: played us. Now, they're a single high safety team, but 448 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: they would. I mean, look, they're gonna They're gonna try 449 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: and get due some two safety looks. Right as you 450 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: were stating, Isaiah, Budda Baker is the key. Here is 451 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the straw, the stairs to drink for that defense. He 452 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: plays down in the box. He does so many special things. 453 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to negate the fact that they have 454 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: some really special players over there, but I feel as 455 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: though with the way that this offense is playing, and 456 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: especially the way that the defense is playing, you know, man, 457 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: this may be role killed. They may be role killed. 458 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the Cardinals coming up against the Cowboys. 459 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: That a hot right now season. Huh, yeah it is. 460 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: I agree with you, heckma, more so than I would 461 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: even say with Isaiah, because I understand you want to 462 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: see it against good teams and this is your opportunity 463 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: to do it. But you have a direct benchmark on 464 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: how your team is improving. From Week fourteen to week sixteen. 465 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: You played the same team twice in a row. Pretty much, 466 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you had the two out of three games 467 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: with the same team opposite of you. One of them 468 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: you dominated through the first quarter, couldn't finish. The second 469 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: of them, you kept your foot on the gas all 470 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: the way through, and you stomped them in the Washington 471 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: football team this past week. So I want to see 472 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: it against a good team. But just because you're you're 473 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: winning games and these four straight wins haven't come against 474 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: the quote unquote best opposition, I still want I still 475 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: think that's that's something that you have to take notice of, 476 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: and I think the NFL is taking notice of it, 477 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: but also looking at the defense, like like Hackaman was 478 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: just saying, with this Arizona team, Buddha Baker, Byron Murphy 479 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: junior is having a pretty good season, Hicks in the middle. 480 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: How about Isaiah Simmons, the top ten pick out of 481 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: Clemson a couple of years ago, Chandler Jones. I mean, 482 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: there are so many different pieces where this defense could 483 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: hurt you, Isaiah. If you had to look at one 484 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: of the three levels and say, whichever one scares you 485 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the most or at least worries you the most to 486 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: try and slow down this Cowboys offense, which one would 487 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: it be. Yeah, it's tough. I feel I feel like 488 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: they have a guy at every level. This reminds me 489 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: more of a Sandia who Yeah, Los Angeles Chargers, Los 490 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers type defense. I did save it, I reeled 491 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: it back in. It reminds me of that defense because 492 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: they have all pro at every level. They have a 493 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: guy at every single level that can hurt you, but 494 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: they don't have a complete unit that you're worried about. 495 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: So in that sense, it gives me a sense of 496 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: confidence going against these guys I do. I would say 497 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: I will feel a lot more confident if Tyrn Smith 498 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: is there. And that's no disrespect to and Seki has 499 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: no disrespect to tern Steel Chandler Jones as he loves 500 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: to write defensive ends in this game that can make plays, 501 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: and then there's defensive ends in this game that that 502 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: get high off of off of just making your life miserable, 503 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys. He's one of those 504 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: type of competitors. So he presents a problem. You start 505 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Simmons at the next level due as 506 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: an athlete sixty four two hundred and forty some hot pounds, 507 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: a boy runs around, he goes sideline, the sideline, he'll 508 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: come downhill bust you in your face. Man problem and 509 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: you go to the third level, and you got Buddha 510 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: base see my U dub family. And he is a 511 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: complete dog. He's he's not a big president, he's not 512 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: a big guy, but he has a huge presence and 513 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: he will find himself in the back half of the field. 514 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: He'll find himself in the line of scrimmage. He'll time 515 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: that thing up and jump over the dog on line 516 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: of scrimmage like old school Roy Williams on you in 517 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: a heartbeat, if if you if you give him the 518 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: ability to so you have to time you change up 519 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: the timing of your snap count. And then you already 520 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: mentioned you going to the outside. You got Burn Murphy, 521 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: a nothing you dubbed guy you dubbed is in the 522 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: building conscious hope. But he's also doing a good job. 523 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: He's not a shutdown corner. But they're him in Buda 524 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Bay present that they present the prisons at the line 525 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. That in the secondary will actually give you 526 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to give them an opportunity game from the 527 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: second from the secondary level, which I see is also 528 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: a huge attribution whenever you can get that defensively. Oh, 529 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: good old Isaiah boy, don't leave no meat on the ball. No, no, 530 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: see the helmet. No, you see the helmet that the 531 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: U dub nation heat. So, like, I agree with what 532 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: you just said, but I have to take it a 533 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: step further. You know, Buda Baker, his IQ, the way 534 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: that he plays for a guy that's as undersized as 535 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: he is, I mean, he's just special. Uh, And he's 536 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: one of those guys that we have to watch for. 537 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: He's changed his number three, so you may not recognize him, 538 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: but he's still doing what he does. You know, Look, 539 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: these guys play a three four base defense, but they 540 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: always play with you know, five six guys at the 541 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. For the Cowboys, I think the running 542 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: game is gonna be imperative. And you say, well, they 543 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: got a five six man box. I still think that 544 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: we have to try over these next couple of weeks 545 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: to re establish our running game. I know we've seen 546 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: some success, we have some things that hey, all right, 547 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: those are some more things for us to build on. 548 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: But a team like Arizona you have to bust them 549 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: in the mouth. You have to meet their physicality. So 550 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage is going to be very important. 551 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: When you talk about guys like Isaiah Simmons, I think 552 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: he's you know, look, I think he's a sideline the 553 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: sideline guy. But what I also see from Simmons as 554 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: a finesse guy, you know, I don't think he wants 555 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: that the pressure that I think of Zach Martin or anybody. 556 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Nobody wants the pressure that Zach Martin will put on you. 557 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: But he does a lot of running around blocks, So 558 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I think running at him, getting out to the next level, 559 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: getting to the second level is gonna be important for 560 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: our offensive line. Establishing a line of scrimmage. Again, it's 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: just going to be imperative. But like you said, it's 562 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: one of those things. This is one of those matchups 563 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: where you know, defensively, getting big get takeaways. They are 564 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: very aggressive and once they smell blood in the water man, 565 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: these guys pen the ears back and come after you, 566 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: and that is something we can't afford as offense. Yeah, 567 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: two of these are both of these teams in the 568 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: top ten are actually even the top five in terms 569 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: of turnover deferential. And then you also look at top 570 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: five in scoring defense top eight in a total defense allowed. 571 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a really, really good and very 572 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: talented defensive unit. They were right there with the Cowboys 573 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the way that they've played, even despite 574 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: a couple injuries on that back end. But it kind 575 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: of reminds me of the conversation that we had when 576 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: of course facing the Chargers that Isaiah was talking about, 577 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: when also going up against the Patriots the Panthers early 578 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: in the year, when you thought the Panthers were going 579 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: to be more than what they were. You have to 580 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: match the physic reality. We've heard that term over and 581 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: over again. It's almost been like continuity. It's matching physicality. 582 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: It's that other word, that other buzzword where we need 583 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: to take a shot every time we hear it. But 584 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys can match that physicality? You 585 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: feel like the one game of confidence hecma that they 586 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: had against the Washington football team is enough to propel 587 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: them into a game like this against the top ten defense, 588 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: a formidable opponent, and to be able to take advantage. Yeah, 589 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: I think they've made some tremendous strides. You know, since 590 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: the loss to the to the Broncos, where a game 591 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: that they came out, they just didn't look like they 592 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: were ready. And you go back to the victories versus 593 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, if you go back to last year, 594 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: that was the one thing that made the difference in 595 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: the ballgame, not only the talent level drop off at 596 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, but just how physical they were. And 597 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: that's look, that's those are just some of the things 598 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: that had to change for us in order to take 599 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: the NFC East. Look, this is no matter what the 600 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: the the contact level, the physicality is going to change 601 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: once the playoffs start. And I know Isaiah has antecdotal 602 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: account of how once the playoffs start, the physicality goes up. 603 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: And this team, this team is going to have to 604 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: continue to match that physicality and if you want to 605 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: be dominant, and especially on our defense, you just see, man, 606 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: how these guys are coming out and they're just taking 607 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: team's soul away. We saw the Washington football team. They 608 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't want anymore. They basically quit. They wanted that clock 609 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: to give us a running clock like in high school. 610 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: In the second half, they could have took it. And 611 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: that's just the thing, Like you say that about what 612 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: we have at the excuse me, at the offensive line 613 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: position and establishing the line scrimmage. Tony Pollard and Ezekiel 614 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: Elliott are going to have to be running downhill this 615 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: entire game. The physicality is going to have to be there. 616 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: It's got to be there in the cavalry. You're gonna 617 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: have to take advantage of it. 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I can't do it like men. 668 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: I know. We don't have Rob Phillips on our our 669 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: say it what's your chest? Day to do the or 670 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: read all right, Isaiah? Before we get into pickums, I 671 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: wanted to hear your response to what Heckman was talking 672 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: about in terms of the physicality matching that and how 673 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: it could propel you into the playoffs. You know, the 674 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: physicality in the NFL. Wanting playoffs are arrived are absolutely insane. 675 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: But you know, this game is actually perfect for what 676 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Dallas needs to prepare for because of their ability. For Arizona, 677 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: they play very, very fast. That's what this team is 678 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: made off of. Their momentum based defense. They want to 679 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: run around and hit, they want to cause issues. They'll 680 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: blitz from deep into secondary to cause issues for you, 681 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to make quick decisions. And that 682 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: is exactly how playoff football roles. It doesn't matter if 683 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: it's happening that the line of scrimmag doesn't matter it 684 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: has happened at the secondary. Also, this is a great 685 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: challenge for the Dallas Cowboys because their ability, their their 686 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: necessity to focus on their ring game right now. Arizona 687 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: does a great job of stopping the run game of 688 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: opposers with their secondary players. Their cornerbacks play physical and downhill, 689 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna be cornerback blitzing. You don't see 690 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: that too often in the league anymore. But they do it, 691 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: they'll shoot their cornerback inside the receivers. So the receivers, 692 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be the biggest challenge for them 693 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: in terms of blocking and getting their man because if 694 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: they receivers, if if you're receivers of your team don't 695 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: block well, your running game won't get going against these guys. 696 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: So in all different fastens, in terms of intensity, in 697 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: terms of speed, in terms of where your eyes need 698 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: to be, assignment wise, um, in terms of the assignments 699 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: of the receivers, this is going to be a huge 700 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: challenge for these guys and everybody. They have to check 701 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: every single box otherwise he's again, this is one of 702 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: those teams that can really wreck things for you. Heck no, 703 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: he said, that's a high take. I mean, that's that's 704 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: that's absolutely correct. And my only thing. The only thing 705 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: about this game in particular is the Cowboys have to 706 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: string along long, methodical drives. And you know, the best 707 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: offense sometimes the best defense. You know, best defense is 708 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: a good offense. Excuse is what I'm trying to say. 709 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: And if our offense is either having those long drives, 710 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: what it's doing is just keeping Colin Murray over there 711 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: sipping gannerade and that's what we want to do. Um, 712 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: but also in his drives with touchdowns and not field goals. Uh, 713 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: that's it's going to be imperative that we do that. 714 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's why I look at for like a mismatch 715 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: of sorts. I think that Schultz could definitely feast on 716 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: this defense because of the way that just what Isaiah said, 717 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: they will blitz from a lot of different angles, and 718 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: you're right, they will bring cornerback pressure off the edge. 719 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: But where has Dak been most successful. He is the 720 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: highest rated quarterback when facing a blitz. That means his 721 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: ability to adapt it in process on the fly is high. 722 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: And I think his safety blanket has been Shultz for 723 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these games. And so I think if 724 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: there's a one on one matchup versus Schultz, he has 725 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: to win. It. Is that one of the X factor 726 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: matchups for you as well, Isaiah? Is there anybody else 727 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: that sticks out? I'm looking at these at these receivers. 728 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I think obviously with Dak trying to get back on 729 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: track last week, cover say you take a big leap 730 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: forward in that regard. These receivers have a lot of 731 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: pressure on them, and it's not they can't just go 732 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: into this game focus on trying to you know, get 733 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, run a good route, catch 734 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: the ball. That's that's not just your assignment. This week 735 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: and again I reiterated their ability to block these corners 736 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: and block these safeties are gonna be a direct Uh, 737 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, they will have a direct effect over our 738 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: Dallas's ability to be able to run the ball. And 739 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: if they if they do a poor job of that, 740 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day. It's gonna be a 741 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: really long day. So I'm putting a lot of pressure 742 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: on these on these receiver question, Uh, Kyle, Yeah, for us, said, 743 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: I said, when it comes out to like two safety 744 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: high cover two versus the single high safety zone. Um, 745 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: those throws that we had talked about earlier in the 746 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,959 Speaker 1: week that Dak has started to make and we've seen 747 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: a few dimes that he's been throwing. Talk about the 748 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: difference for our receivers being if they do go with 749 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: that single high safety. Look, how is it gonna be 750 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: the contrast between what they've seen over the last five 751 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: six weeks. Yeah, the holes are different and obviously it's 752 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: it's all depending on the type a route concept that 753 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: you have, the route tree that you're running. But you know, 754 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: typically when you have those two high safeties, there's a 755 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: lot more there's a lot more room underneath. When you 756 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: start talking about, you know, underneath coverage you're expecting you know, 757 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: two high safety, you got two cornerbacks, two safeties deep, 758 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: there's three linebackers. Typically in the middle where those three 759 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: linebackers are covering all fifty three and a half yards 760 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: and then that's that's a lot to ask those guys 761 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: to cover as set for him unless those corners, those 762 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: two those cover two corners really sit so the middle 763 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: of the field is really only being covered by three guys. Now, 764 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you drop down to a single 765 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: high safety, they're really taking away that underneath and saying 766 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: we're not giving you these five yard routes, We're not 767 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: giving you these eight yard routes. Everything that you're gonna 768 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: have to do is gonna have to be behind our 769 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: second level defenders. So you're gonna have to run your 770 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: routes at least twelve yards deep. And guess what it 771 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: gives Dallas now the opportunity to win on the outside. 772 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: So that's kind of the dare that Arizona is going 773 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: to try to present the Dallas and say, we don't 774 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: think that you guys gonna could beat us on an 775 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: outside man a man, you know, we're gonna step up 776 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: in your face. I'm gonna put hands on you, you know, 777 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: like like a old nation, right, gonna putting the Hondas 778 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: on you at the line of scrimmage, and dare you 779 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: to throw the ball outside, And we're gonna try to 780 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: make sure that we sit on your inside shade and 781 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: force all your routes to the sideline. We're gonna try 782 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: to negate your ability to run anything interior wise, and 783 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: if you do want to run it on the inside, 784 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: because we're running single high safety, it's gonna have to 785 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: be ten twelve yards down the field, which gives who 786 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Isaiah Simmons those guys at the time they 787 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: need to try to get in the backfield. I absolutely 788 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: love it, and I love the inside about what this 789 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: could look like because normally when we talk about that 790 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of exs and O stuff, we didn't turn around 791 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: on Sunday and we see it happening almost instantly, So 792 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: let's see if you can predict as well on the 793 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: field as you are in the results of these games, Isaiah, 794 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: because I don't have the standings updates, but I do 795 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: know that you are currently bringing up the rear still, 796 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: so we'll let you go first on this one. Well, 797 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna type of individual that likes to 798 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: have each other's back, you know. I want to make 799 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: sure our secure things and make sure and my guys 800 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: are good. I like to see you just like when 801 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm eating with my family, I like to have my 802 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: I don't like my back turn to the door. It's 803 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the same way, you know. I'd like to make sure 804 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: that Joe he loves being the caboost. Yeah, that's what 805 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: it is. That's what I just heard. Hacma, That's exactly 806 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: what I just heard. All right, I've got I've got 807 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: six games here. I'm gonna put the fans vote on Twitter, 808 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,280 Speaker 1: So follow me at Kyle Underscore Yeomans. I'm gonna tweet 809 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,720 Speaker 1: out Poles and whatever the percentage Pole gets, it's gonna 810 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: be a true fan represented week here on Talking Cowboys, 811 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: and that will be the official pick of the fans. 812 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the Rams at the Ravens. 813 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips has already sent me all of his picks, 814 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: so I'll just throw his out there first whenever we 815 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: come around. But the Ravens is who he picked in 816 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: that one, and we'll go with Hack my first. Rams 817 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: at Ravens, Yes, sir, Yeah, both teams eat that. I'm 818 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: gonna go with the I'm gonna go with the Los 819 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. I'm gonna go with the Rams as well. 820 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: Isaiah going with Sheep the Sheep, all right, Chiefs at 821 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Rob picked the Chiefs. Who do you guys 822 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: have We'll start with Isaiah. You know what. I'm going 823 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: with Casey oh Man, Bengals playing well. Joe Burrow, Joe 824 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: Burrow hot right now, boy, But I'm going to see 825 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: ain't crazy. I'm crazy. I'm gonna go with the Bengals 826 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: at home. I think they get a big win in 827 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City's win. Street comes to a close, so I'm 828 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna take the I'm taking Cincinnati, all right. NFC East 829 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: battle the Philadelphia Eagles on the road against the struggling 830 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: Washington football team. I'm gonna take the Eagles on the road. 831 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: As they continue to push toward the playoffs, and it'll 832 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: be another tough matchup again in week eighteen for the Cowboys. Isaiah, 833 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: who you got, chief steak Man? I go, Can I 834 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: just take a mulligan on? No, just gotta pick one 835 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: of the two. You have to you know, you go ahead. 836 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: I know you you don't want to say the guard, 837 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: but you gotta say, just say something else like I did. 838 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: All Right, I'll go with the Green team. The Green team. Okay, 839 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: so not the Washington football team. It's the Philadelphia Green team. Uh. 840 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: Rob also picked the Eagles as well. Let's go with 841 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: the Bears at home against the Giants in this this 842 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: could be a low scoring game. New York and Chicago 843 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: rank bottom five and points per game this season. Heck, 844 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: one will start with you, all right, you said it 845 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: was you broke up. You said, Bears at Giants, Bears 846 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: hosting the Giants. So Giants at Bears, Bears. So okay? 847 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: Uh And oh god, I think that's a horrible game. 848 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: The club. I want to go with Bears Isaiah nineteen 849 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: eighty five. Ah, the Bears. Okay, I'm gonna go with 850 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: the Bears too. It's a Bears across the board, because 851 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: that's who Rob Phillips pick as well, and then our 852 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: final non Cowboys game, the Browns on the road against 853 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Pittsburgh has won three of their last four 854 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: against the Browns as they continue to struggle as well. 855 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: Rob picked the Steelers. I'm gonna pick the Browns. Heck, 856 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: but who you got? That's gonna be a tough divisional 857 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: matchup and I'm gonna go with the Brownies. They gotta 858 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: get a rebound, Nick Chubbs, you just don't like saying 859 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: team names, do you, guys? Aah? That's all it is. 860 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: You just don't want to say the actual team name. Okay, 861 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: here we go, Final games, final game. We're pick in 862 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: this week, and it's the one everybody wants to hear about. 863 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: It's the Cardinals at the Cowboys. Arizona's won four or 864 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, five of their last six against Dallas, but 865 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: they've lost three straight coming into this one. The Cowboys 866 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: have won four straight. And our ring on all cylinders, 867 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: each team already locked into the playoffs. We'll start with 868 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. He goes thirty four twenty eight. Cowboys get 869 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: the dub at home at AT and T Stadium, a 870 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: one possession football game. Isaiah, who you got, Let's go 871 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty four Cowboys. Oh? I thought you were 872 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: gonna say Cardinals right there. I thought that was gonna 873 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: be a delayed Christmas tree game. What what's going on? 874 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you got all your you dub guys over there. 875 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: You mean to tell me you're gonna go with That's 876 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: that's shocking. That's shocking. That shows the confidence level that 877 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: Isaiah has in this ball club. Yeah, all right, what 878 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: about myself? Coyle? What's you guy? I'll go Cowboys. Thirty 879 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: one twenty one is my score. I think the defense 880 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: plays exceptionally well. I think it's actually like thirty one 881 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 1: fourteen until late, and then the Cardinals get a late 882 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: touchdown and then that's about it. But I think thirty 883 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: one twenty one is the final score when all things 884 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: are done at at and T Stadium. HECKMA, no feeling 885 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: good about this matchup. I think everybody in Cowboy Nation 886 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: should be feeling good about this matchup as well. I'm 887 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 1: feeling like the Cowboys will win this game. It'll be close, 888 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: but twenty four thirteen thirteen is my final school A 889 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: little low scoring matchup. I like it a little different 890 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: from heck Ma, Harrison. But that's gonna do it here 891 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: for us here on talking Cowboys this week. Hope you 892 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: had some fun. We'll be back on Monday to break 893 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: it all down. Everybody, have a very safe and happy 894 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: New Year's. Let's bring in twenty twenty two the right way, 895 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: and of course, hopefully the Cowboys get to win on 896 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: Sunday as well. For Chris Beam, for Rob Phillips, for 897 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Stamback, heck Ma, Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. Heckma. 898 00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: What do we say on say? Or what's your chest? 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