WEBVTT - Melania “ChatGPT” Trump w/ Ben Mora 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:05.000 Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.000 you filthy horse. Your husband's gone and we've got books 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.719 and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:19.040 it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir. It's Martini. Celebrity Poop Club. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.960 Read it while it's hot. Celebrity Poop Club. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.400 Tell your secrets. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.880 We won't talk celebrity books. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:27.920 No. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:32.560 Boys are a loud Celebrity book Club. Say it loud 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:34.800 and pound Celebrity book Club. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.120 Buzz me in. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.519 I brought the Queer voe Hey best Friends live from 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:40.960 the Kamala Brat Bus. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:41.760 It's Stephen and. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.400 Lily reporting on all the ups and downs of this 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.239 topsy turvy election season. It's all gonna come down to 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.800 seven states. And one of those states is the iHeart 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.479 Studios in Manhattan, New. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:57.080 York, the Swing State recording, the Spring Studio. What's over 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.080 there over going on in Iowa? 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.400 Stephen, It's so funny, say, because I was just in Wisconsin. Yeah, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.840 and the Swing state energy was swinging, Mama. Yeah, it 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:12.200 was giving big signs. Okay, it was giving competitive big signs. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.600 It was also giving one Jill stein Yard sign, which 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:18.759 I was happy to see that's what's up. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.800 Because when I went to upstate New York, which of 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.039 course New York does go blue, but upstate, you know, 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.640 things really change up there. It was also very just 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.959 Kamala Trump, Kamala Trump. It really was a. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.560 Back And I do think there's this thing though, where 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.360 it's like people put up a big Trump sign and 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.200 then the mom across the street is just like, I'm. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.720 Getting believing science terroris. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.880 We believe in science sign? Anyway? Are politics are so crazy? 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.640 And if you're like me, you're probably glued to the 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.400 New York Times app totally refreshing the latest poll results. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.200 Oh my god. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.960 I have CNN on twenty four to seven and one TV, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.960 and then I have another TV setup and then I have. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.560 C NBC set up on that, and then the baths. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.240 I do Fox the baths my bath. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.520 Yeah, I'm multiply your Roman baths my personal Roman lesbian baths. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.000 Yeah. No foxes for nude behavior. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.639 Okay, we have one of the most important political commentators 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.639 of our society. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.919 Yeah, no, want. I wanted to bring someone on crossfire 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.240 who has been in the. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.240 Crossfire, been in the cross for. 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.560 Years, a former political operative much like myself worked in 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.720 the field division. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.800 A more recently. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.959 Not to you, I feel like the years are getting 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.080 farther farther away. Whuld you reference your time breaking in politics? 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.640 It's getting a little like well, when I worked on 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.400 the Streamer campaign in eighteen ninety three. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.440 It is a little eighteen ninety three. But that perspective 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.840 is actually so essential, not more than ever. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.640 We need to remember history and how can we repair it. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.360 So we brought in one of the world's most foremost 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.280 cyber bullies, who was famously fired from the Bernie Sanders 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.440 campaign for being based af. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.320 And then ran some amazing meme accounts. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.200 He also has an incredibly influential podcast that I think 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.959 pulls in more money than we do on Patreon, known 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.560 as Seeking Derangements. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.640 For Senator Ben Mora. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.400 Hello, constituents, listen to that beautiful gay barons. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.519 And you just came from Jill Stein's home. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.960 Yeah, I did. I was trying to think of she's 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:35.560 from Iowa. She's not. No, she's from Moscow. No, much 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:35.840 like you. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.680 I was just in the Midwest, and well, Iowa is 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.680 so yard sign everywhere they are psychotic about it particularly 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:50.720 because as we all know, but it's the first caucus 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:52.640 in the nation most times in the primaries. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.200 Right, and they kind of got shattered this year because 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.000 there wasn't really a primary in either party exactly, so 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:57.480 no one. 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.400 Cared about ioland because after the Democratic coalck I worked 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.680 in there, it was such a shit show that both 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.400 of the national parties were like, we're not doing this, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:05.640 Like you hillbilly. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.160 Is this just like random chee gets from the town 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.920 in a gym, yelling and being like come over. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.440 People who don't know how to stand in a line 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.440 or walk like literally, these are people who mill about. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.880 They have bigger miller millers. You end up with it 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.720 just like slow moving like tornado of like iowinds and 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.000 they don't know where to stand, even though there's signs everywhere. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.520 But it is a big yard sign. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.600 Like it used to be so hot, and it was 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.039 always like photos of Howard Dean being so like sweaty, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.160 they're rolling up his sleeve. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:43.200 Well after I left uge Downturn, but it is so 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.719 yard sign. And I will say, I growing up there 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.280 with my mom, who's you know, a big lib. It 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.640 was always a thing every four years, even in center, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.919 racist yard sign, yard sign everywhere, And I have never 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:02.440 seen a more kind of apparent and manifestation of how 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.200 much people hate both. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.359 Candidates and don't want to vote. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.560 Then I did in Iowa because there is a startling 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.920 lack of yard science and four Islands who I told 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.680 passionate about yarding, they like invented being my yard is 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.920 billboard for apology. There's just there's nothing, and I think 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:18.800 everyone's just over it. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.080 Baron, I do feel like, literally it's kind of like 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.840 you know, with Cam and Don, they're both running the 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.800 worst versions of their campaigns. It's like Hillary twenty sixteen 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.000 versus Trump of twenty twenty. It's the one that nobody wants. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.320 It's I saw recently that Hilary was advising Kamala on 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:38.200 her campaign. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.240 I was like, what is she telling? Can you imagine 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.520 how dumb that she's been, Like I want you to 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.760 rent out the largest convention hall you can find. She's like, 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.480 get more more balloons. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.280 She sends out. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.120 She's just a link to Javitt Center. She's like, this 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.279 place is really cute. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.720 For like second dates, they you stay a little bit 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.159 longer if you had a really bad night. 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.760 Okay, then we have invented you on to talk about. 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.520 I think the book you're going to be a big 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:05.560 expert on. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.120 I hope, so we're all experts. I did read it. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.680 I did read it. I read it too, even though 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.360 it seems like you loved her copy in Iowa, I did. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.160 I left at my mom's house just to troll her 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.160 because she's like, why are you reading Mulania? 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.599 Were you having to read it like shaking your head 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.560 so she knows you agree with it. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:26.599 Well, I was like, I'm doing a podcast. She's like, okay, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.039 I guess you have to do for work, like whatever. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:31.120 But I'm like, my mom's not She's far from a Hillbot. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:36.200 But it is funny the just utter disdain Milania can 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.839 generate from liberal women. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.480 They so much. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.159 They hate her so much, and they're just like, oh, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:46.000 she's just dumb. No, they're calling her like, oh yeah, 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:46.839 they're like slut. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:53.280 And we'll get into that. You named the already, which 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.400 is fine, it's fine, it's cool. We we love playing 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.240 with form. I'm such a bad our particular way of 0:06:59.279 --> 0:06:59.880 announcing the. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:04.880 But took up this week different seats I love. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:13.920 I'm voting for change. Okay, guest today we're doing a 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.480 ridiculous book. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.440 Yes, okay, by a dumb, stupid. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.600 Horse, but you guys, seriously, one of the most beautiful 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.800 models to come out of Slovenia. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.480 That I can remember in recent memory, one of the 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:26.200 big ones. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.440 Almost graduate of Industrial design college. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:33.440 And someone who wants to be Italian so bad. Yeah, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.320 do spread to return to the walks of Milan. Slovenian 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:48.600 beauty unquestionably the most glamorous first lady of all time, wife, wife, mother, sister, friend, advocate, daughter, block. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.640 Creator, renovator, Tennis pavilion creator. Of course, we are talking 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.640 about none other than my girl. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:05.800 Malan prom and her new book, Milennia Milania. So for 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.520 those of you who didn't see my microviral tweet, the 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.360 cover is very minimal. It is just black with the 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.680 word Melania on it. It does feel like it's basically 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.360 like a mixture of like really low cost design where 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.200 they were just like what if it's just the name. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.160 Vinyl cover In this way though, because. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:30.480 It works, because it's as I think you pointed out 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.800 in your when You're microdosing fame your tweet, that it 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.040 does really contrast with the trump esthetic, which. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.839 Is gaudy and shiny and gods of golden photos. And 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.680 she's just like, you don't need to see a photo 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.120 of me. There is only one Milania. She's the madonna, right, She's. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.000 This is her truth or dare well. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.960 I think something she's always understood is that being a 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.600 ostensibly public person, your currency is privacy. The more you 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.319 hold on to then you get so. 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.880 But it's really Jennifer Lawrence. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.000 But unlike Jennifer Lawrence. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.920 Proud and in Europe we are proud of the woman. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.360 In America we cannot show. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.280 I would just like to saddle our listeners in just 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.319 by starting with a little bit of a passage, just 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.920 so they know kind of where they're at. She's time 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.160 out her family because you know, we don't we don't 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.600 know much. You know, we know she's Slovenian, but you 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.080 know what makes Millennia tick? 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:34.880 Who made her? 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:35.600 So? 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:40.520 She's talking about her grandfather, Anton wasted no time in 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.760 pursuing his passion for agriculture. It was here that he 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:49.160 would go on to breed a culinary masterpiece, the renowned 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:56.480 roscabula or roca onion sweet red variety that quickly became 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.240 a favorite among Slovenian people. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.280 Her dad in vented and onion. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:08.520 Red onions, onion like no onion before anyway, sweet and red. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.880 We would spend beautiful summers on the Dalmatian coast. The 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.400 Eastern European coast is actually beautiful and not sad. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:19.960 Yeah, no, she's so like we are not like the 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:25.360 other communist countries. We have Barbie and my dad seventeen cars. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.760 And she's like, And yes, it was hard to cross 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:33.160 the border many times and show identification to cross the 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.800 border to go to Dalmatia, but I do not mind 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.359 because it is also part of the fabric and adventure 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:40.840 of life. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.719 And yes, my mother has a blue accent wall in 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.000 her home and it's so beautiful. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.000 She's describing her mom. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.640 She was an amazing interior and fashion. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.720 The most tasteful woman you have ever seen is me mother. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:01.480 This book is the most chat rept yes, I have 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.760 ever read. It's shockingly chat GBT in a way where 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.800 that has kind of become the stock observation for anything 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.200 that feels this kind of textureless and just paint by numbers. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.080 But it is I think maybe. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.880 One of the most obviously written by chat GBT books 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:19.000 of all time. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.320 It's the bland positivity of it, where there's like slightly 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.480 different ways of saying these things. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.920 Also mentioning a slight underside from a young age. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.720 My mos innates talent and bondless creativity as an artist, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.520 pattern maker, and Taylor shone brightly. It came as no 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.240 surprise that when she finished fashion design and patent school, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.200 she was handpicked to join the design studio of the 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.800 Udrnkia Children's clothing factory in Sevnica, a mere twenty minutes 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.200 from her hometown. It came as no surprise when she 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.400 was asked to join the design school at Yard. Yes, yes, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.000 of course. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:58.560 It came as no, none of us, but it was like, oh, 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.600 this is kind of justice Simpson, and in the way 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.000 of like then I took a left, then I opened 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:04.439 the door. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.680 But then it's my mother described me as a joyful 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.600 and contented baby, noting my delight in playing with Bobby 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.480 and dressing her and handmade outfits, noting my delight. Yeah, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.680 when your mother notes your delight. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.560 Okay, There's there's one passes where she's describing her father 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.560 that I do you do see a little bit of 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.840 a little bit of emotion and it's mostly horniness. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.120 For her cars. 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.760 And this is funny because I've always thought that Malania 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.880 with her kind of liked car. I've always said that 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.280 she looks like a really sleek sports car. The head off, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.439 I feel like a deer in head, like. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.959 You're flipping through W. SJ a magazine, your tag, hower 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.240 ad whatever, and then it's like bam, this gorgeous ferrari 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.719 ad where it's like the dead on lip. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.360 Yes, that is what she she is a car, No, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.000 she is. It made so much when I found out 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.080 that she comes eight top dear Slovenian carl. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:06.680 Seven. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.280 The passes where she's talking about driving with her father's 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:10.840 like I. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:15.120 Can still feel dear excitement sitting behind my father, sucking 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.480 in every moment, my heart raising as he unleashed its power. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.839 It was pure adventure, a connection forged in the open croad, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.640 a taste of freedom. And I'm a girl you want 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.480 to fund your dad so. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:29.400 Bad the only time. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.000 And this is I think this is maybe the only 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.280 non chatch beat segment about her young life, because I 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.640 don't think Chatchi Beaty could replicate this kind of. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:44.920 Because then she. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.720 Tries to replicate it on her and Trump's first date 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.480 when he picks her up when they go on the 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.400 dry and his Bedford Park property. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.480 His love for driving was obvious, and I share the 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:57.280 same passion. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.560 I shared Donald's passion for the car driving. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.800 And then she was like, just like Donald, this date 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.560 was like him, a mixture of pleasure and work because 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.760 we are checking on his property, which was beautiful, but 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.040 we are also having pleasant conversations. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.120 I mean in this Eastern European way. You know. Some 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.640 would say mail order bride, some would say just like 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.560 she did what she had to do. But it's like 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:28.200 she is used to being around essentially like a sleazy 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:34.880 car dealer who has this oh too far and just 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.000 like he's saying it an empowering one. Yeah, and she's 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.600 smiling and knowing when to say like oh the engine 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.800 it is? How many horses? Yes, No, she's a stage girl. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.400 Yes, she was definitely at her father's Slovenian top dear lot, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.960 like walking around in a like mini skirt, like. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.920 She feels like a girl in a bond movie who 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.680 gets shot like very fast. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.840 Absolutely, no, she I see her as like a bond 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.880 so ductress. She's a bond, said ductress who's dying like 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.360 towards the end of the film because she betrays the bombs. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.040 You're saying she gets shot. She gets early on maybe, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.000 but then she would have a thing. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.960 Where it's like a beautiful eye badge. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:16.560 She comes back. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.360 It's iPads thought stories all over the place. She gets 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.320 she gets shot in the head and gets a beautiful 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.160 patch and then she's sucks wonderful. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.360 People call me and my husband liars, but we are 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.320 not the facts for misrepresented. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.560 I mean, she is so icy and so villainous, and 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.960 the thing is like that was the only thing that 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:42.240 you could but I mean she. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.880 Was she needn't learned not to cry. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.680 She had been giving us nothing for so long, and 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.760 so you have to kind of superimpose the reference points 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.840 onto her. So it's like beautiful Eastern European, although she's 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.880 not like the other communists. It's like, okay, in the 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.440 American mindset, it's like, this is just a kind of 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:02.000 horrorsh villainous, you know, model in the kind of bond mold. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.840 And I'm like, Okay, hopefully in this book she'll give 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.080 us something that isn't but just more of the same. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.960 And she doesn't. But there's nothing. I do think it's 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.960 interesting though, the retroactive trying to paint her Eastern European 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.520 upbringing in this like positive capitalist light and be like, yes, 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.760 I'm from here, but it's not bad. But it's not 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.800 bad because it's actually not as communist as you think 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.680 it is, which is like pretty counter to I think 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.240 a lot of the stories we hear from other women 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.800 like Marie and Abram Yeah, where it's like I kind 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.360 of think she's lying about being so Barbie pilled as 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.240 a child, definitely Barbie' is. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.200 She's trying to make her seem like they were like 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:43.160 always having gelato and different. 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:45.520 I was playing with bricks. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.320 I also feel like this is her trying to be 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.480 like a little bit like I'm not like the other girls, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.800 like I'm a little quirky, I'm not like the other communist. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.200 She's being like a pickmy of the picks of the. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.960 I would go back to the at any moment, and. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.280 She got picked. I know she literally, I mean what 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.520 I did her. I love because she also doesn't pretend 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.800 to be so like good with like physical activity, which 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.680 I think is an important thing for any motitude, because 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.920 she says like she's really good and always striving to 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.480 be best and studying and learning and participating in gymnastics 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.119 and playing tennis, which is rich. The only thing I 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.760 recall abandoning was the guitar, which I desperately wanted to 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.760 masters until I experienced significant discomfort in my fingertips during 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.359 my initial lesson. Not my fingers hurt, I experienced significant 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.119 discomfort in my fingertips. No, that was the only thing 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.600 she couldn't do with her. While I acknowledge that I'm 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.480 capable of many things, I determined that the guitar was 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:46.480 not meant for me. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.359 I was so insane. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.480 This is so me with karate, where you're just being 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.520 so like, actually, like, the only thing I didn't succeed 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.160 that and I do regret now is the guitar. But okay, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.600 when she starts like modeling, and I feel like she 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.240 goes to the same modeling agency that Padma does in Milan. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.800 Yeah, they also start her young. It's being very pageant. 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.160 Yeah she's doing pageant. But then she goes to school 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.200 for industrial design. She's being so risky. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.720 I could have pursued architecture modeling. 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.159 And one that she was discovered on the street with 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.840 her sister, and then her sister encourages her to go 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:23.280 to Milan. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.200 Yes, and then she gets a sister, and then she's 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:30.760 a very accomplished artist. Yes, the painting was I was 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.480 kind of Millennia. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.960 Was talking such a big game on her entire family, 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.000 but like in particular her sister's like kindness, quest the 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.280 most beautiful girl I've ever seen. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.640 She's like, we would play for hours designing dresses, coming 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.679 out with industrial designs, making buildings. 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.760 Yes, okay, but before you get to the modeling, she 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.440 does the thing that I know you guys have referenced 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.920 quite a few times. Every generation experienced the mean kids 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.440 in school. I was often it for my appearance, being 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:07.000 too perceived as total and too skin I undoubtedly stood out. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.119 In retrospect, I realized most of this behavior was fueled 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:12.760 by their insecurities. 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.920 So she's like, they literally hate me because they beautiful. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.520 Make some beautiful as Ariana Grande recently said, sympathy as 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:22.960 a knife. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.880 And the bullying comes back into play when she goes 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:29.160 after ROSI o'donald later and will discuss. 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:39.200 When Rosie v Barren bros Rosie Donald, like those two 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.200 big bitches have been going at it for decades. Got 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:43.520 the Godzilla and. 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.040 One of the most long Island people just like at 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.840 a community high school, fighting. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:57.600 Size, the same body, the same voice. They hate each 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.000 other because they realize they are perfect mirrors. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.120 And Jerry date on hand. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.600 Neither Rosie or Trump is Jewish. That's the craziest part. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.960 Yeah they're both so just like New York Jewish coded. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.200 Yeah right, roses Irish and Trump is Germans. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.719 Whatever Trump Trump, come on right, because like live hard, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.760 always been like actually, drum actually your great great grandfather 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:31.320 was an immigrants literally true for everyone. So she becomes 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.040 a model. She gets approached by a man on the 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.399 street whose name is literally stain Jerko. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:39.040 Yes, yeah, yeah, the one girl you do not want 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.520 your daughter talking to. You do not want your daughter. 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.600 The mom is just like being so the lyrics to 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.480 fancy just be like, this is your one shot. Go 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.080 off with stain Jerko dead photograph. This is it, sweetheart. 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.640 So she does this modeling competition that she wins by 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:12.960 walking a white poodle on a leash. The photographers snapped away, 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:14.000 capturing the moment. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:14.199 Well. 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:19.199 The spectators were shouting Brava Bellissima. I was elated by 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.040 the news that I had won first place on the 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.119 Grand National stage. The sheer magnitude of doll left me 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.359