Speaker 1: Well we're back a team USA.
Speaker 2: Winds up with a whole lot of nothing in the tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, we may have an Avenger style
Speaker 2: team up of the league's top stars at the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Sounds like Tron.
Speaker 1: Well now, I except prefer Paul Tron.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that and conclude our team by team
Speaker 2: prediction series with the Southeastern Division with writer and podcaster
Speaker 2: Dampa Valley.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, I'm Miles.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, how you been man?
Speaker 4: I have been great. Thank you guys so much for
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Speaker 1: You know what they say, shame on you. Wait, fool
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Speaker 2: Never mind, take it fooled again. You don't pool me again? Dan, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, back.
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Speaker 3: But hey, inspiration camera that someone bought it a garage
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Speaker 1: That my wife was like, we should put this somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a nice that's a nice set dressing. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Should we just talk?
Speaker 2: Should we touch on Team USA before we get into
Speaker 2: our preview here?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna have to do it. Yeah, so what's our
Speaker 3: excuse here? The excuse I keep here in those international
Speaker 3: teams are playing together constantly, but like where are they?
Speaker 3: Are they playing in like underground basketball tournaments? Is there
Speaker 3: like a Mortal Kombat for basketball that's constantly happening and
Speaker 3: we're they is just not not admitted to or yeah.
Speaker 1: Dan, where are you? Where are you? Landing?
Speaker 2: On the hot takes about the Team USA coming up
Speaker 2: with nothing at the Feeble World Cup.
Speaker 1: I hear, we don't take it seriously.
Speaker 2: We got to send our best or they need more
Speaker 2: time to build some kind of consistency. What's your feeling
Speaker 2: after that disappointing tournament.
Speaker 4: Yeah I can't. I don't want to say I can't
Speaker 4: bring myself to care. But I'm not a fan of
Speaker 4: like the making excuses of it all when it's if
Speaker 4: you want to claim that we have the best basketball
Speaker 4: talent in the world, then we should be winning these tournaments.
Speaker 5: And the other thing to me is.
Speaker 4: I it's hypocritical because I sit here and will critique
Speaker 4: NBA players all the time and I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4: But if we're gonna have stars come out and like
Speaker 4: subtweet this or like have problems with how at fair like,
Speaker 4: well then participate when it's not just like the actual Olympics.
Speaker 4: I do probably think there's something to the team chemistry
Speaker 4: aspect where when we're having these World Cup tournaments, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: they're dealing with the same rosters. And I know JJ
Speaker 4: Reddick pointed out that like some of these guys in
Speaker 4: international play just turn into like Michael Jordan when they're
Speaker 4: is go out of body. So I get it, but
Speaker 4: it's like it's also kind of super ridiculously embarrassing. I
Speaker 4: feel like, just I don't want to insult the talent
Speaker 4: that actually won and shout out to you know, Germany
Speaker 4: for winning it at all. But you're supposed to you
Speaker 4: You're just supposed to have these guys. Even when we're
Speaker 4: throwing out the what you're gonna call us the be roster,
Speaker 4: there are still stars on there, and the fact that
Speaker 4: they can't really co lace to me is like it's
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's fair Like I said, I can't
Speaker 4: care a lot about it, but it is fairly I
Speaker 4: think surprising. But I do think you have to give
Speaker 4: credit to the rest of the world for catching up
Speaker 4: with their talent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people were like, what is this
Speaker 2: the man in the high castle the US lost to Germany.
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people were saying that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: every people like everybody said that, Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: men in the high Castle references. I it's confounding, Like
Speaker 3: as much as people want to say these are, this
Speaker 3: is like not the best of the US has to offer.
Speaker 1: I think that roster.
Speaker 3: Would win the NBA title this year, like or they'd
Speaker 3: be favored to at least it's the the USA basketball
Speaker 3: team like that. That roster is absolutely stacked. The Germany
Speaker 3: basketball roster would be favored to be like how many
Speaker 3: wins would they win in the NBA this year eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'll give them. I'll give them twenty eight, twenty five. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't more.
Speaker 5: Think the Wizards, I think is just the that's the number.
Speaker 3: I think that's about right, Like I think they might
Speaker 3: be even lower than that, because otherwise, like more of
Speaker 3: these guys would be on NBA basketball teams. So like
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't totally understand it, but it does seem. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's the having the experience of like everybody.
Speaker 1: So we lost to Germany.
Speaker 3: We also lost to Canada, who has three solid NBA players,
Speaker 3: one great NBA player, two very good NBA players, the
Speaker 3: great being Dylan Brooks obviously, yes, yes, yes, our new King,
Speaker 3: the new Kobe. I think we can all agree on that.
Speaker 3: Who dropped thirty nine points on the US. So I
Speaker 3: guess in that case, we have a team like team
Speaker 3: Canada is playing ball internationally at like these international FIBA
Speaker 3: tournaments throughout the year, and then when NBA players can
Speaker 3: come in, like the same three NBA players are coming
Speaker 3: back and they know how to play with those guys,
Speaker 3: So like that's that's the difference maker, right right.
Speaker 2: I I'm just I'm just looking also at Team Canada,
Speaker 2: I'm like that Jamal Murray wasn't playing, Like what what
Speaker 2: what is that Olympic team going to look like? Because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who I think assume that
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, man, just get just get this Vultron
Speaker 2: team together, and it's like it's a rap. But I
Speaker 2: feel like there's such a there's an arrogance to it
Speaker 2: all that like doesn't humble itself to be like we
Speaker 2: have to play as a team. We can't just be
Speaker 2: like we're the best ever so we can just like
Speaker 2: sleep through this thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamal Murray and Wiggins were not playing, right Canada
Speaker 3: and they beat the USA. I yeah, it's interesting. I
Speaker 3: don't I don't know necessarily, Like God, it does seem
Speaker 3: to be of a larger piece with like it's hard
Speaker 3: a harder thing to write about, a harder thing to quantify,
Speaker 3: and so it gets underrated.
Speaker 1: But we are seeing.
Speaker 3: It now in international play and we're also seeing it
Speaker 3: in the NBA that having the you know, experience of
Speaker 3: playing together like seems to help the teams that have
Speaker 3: stuck together for a little while, you know, like Denver,
Speaker 3: like Milwaukee, like you know that as opposed to these
Speaker 3: teams that are just trying to assemble like the greatest
Speaker 3: net weight of talent per roster that it seems to matter,
Speaker 3: like when you have some cohesion, when you have some experience,
Speaker 3: that that stuff change changes things. That it works in
Speaker 3: the NBA, It certainly works in international competition.
Speaker 2: So Dan, what do you think of? But what do
Speaker 2: you think of this dream team that Lebron is saying
Speaker 2: he's putting together? What KD, Steph he said he's already
Speaker 2: got uh Draymond to buy in?
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum ad is is there?
Speaker 4: Like this is probably sack religious to say, but like,
Speaker 4: is the best team gonna be?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Well, let's roll out like a super ancient Kevin Durant,
Speaker 4: Steph Curry and Lebron Like, are we that after they're
Speaker 4: going through an entire NBA season where some of those
Speaker 4: guys might have played like a hundred games or whatever
Speaker 4: it ends up being. So I like, yeah, on paper,
Speaker 4: that looks fun, But I think Jack.
Speaker 5: Sort of alluded to this.
Speaker 4: What if they tried to like build and you could
Speaker 4: still use stack talent, but what if you actually tried
Speaker 4: to build a roster where the skill sets they don't
Speaker 4: overlap and they kind of compliment one another and they
Speaker 4: fill in for the gaps that you would have elsewhere.
Speaker 4: And I think this version of the USA team, which
Speaker 4: just frankly I watched very minimal of because I just
Speaker 4: don't get excited about this particular tournament, is just like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we can make fun of Jaron Jackson Junior's rebounding, but
Speaker 4: here's this guy who's a big who defends a bunch
Speaker 4: on the perimeter. So why didn't you so around him
Speaker 4: with other smalls who were actually really good at rebounding?
Speaker 5: Like why why do we not approach building a roster?
Speaker 4: And you even said it was just like the net
Speaker 4: sum of talent, Like why not approach this as an
Speaker 4: actual roster building process to see like how we can
Speaker 4: get Yeah, it'll still be stars, but how about stars
Speaker 4: that compliment one another and fill all the gaps within
Speaker 4: an entire game?
Speaker 3: Because Steve Kerr is dumb and bad, and I think
Speaker 3: we can all agree it was Steve Cerr's fault. Let's
Speaker 3: move along that that does seem He's getting a lot
Speaker 3: of escape escapegoatage, yeah, which does not seem fair to me.
Speaker 1: But did some of it fall on Grant Hill?
Speaker 4: Then he come out and say like, we're not gonna
Speaker 4: hold tryouts for this, like we're just gonna We're just
Speaker 4: gonna trust that these guys are going. Like way back when,
Speaker 4: I think I saw an excerpt going around that that's
Speaker 4: what he had said about it.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna have a like a kind of off site,
Speaker 3: a team off site and some trust falls and just
Speaker 3: like kind of vibe it.
Speaker 2: Out the roster. Yeah, yeah, we love it all guards
Speaker 2: just what ended up. Yeah, we love it, but the
Speaker 2: vibes were great.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that.
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks quote is really something he said, Kobe Bryant
Speaker 2: had to figure out how to create the Black Mamba.
Speaker 1: I guess that's my persona, the villain.
Speaker 3: Uh huh uh h yeah, Okay, I think those players
Speaker 3: are equivalent.
Speaker 1: Miles your thoughts.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 2: I honestly, I don't know if I can truly express
Speaker 2: my heart at the moment. I'm so lost for words.
Speaker 2: The most I can do is maybe Russell Westbrook reaction me.
Speaker 1: And be like, bro, what trip? Because where I'm at
Speaker 1: with that he did put in work, though.
Speaker 3: He put on those boxing story is very interesting, you know,
Speaker 3: him being like scapegoated in a way that I don't
Speaker 3: think I've ever seen a player, like a major contributing
Speaker 3: player to a team be scapegoaded and then leaves that team,
Speaker 3: goes to another team in the offseason, like puts up
Speaker 3: thirty nine on you. Yeah, against the US does one
Speaker 3: of the just clowning ist just the the silliest thing
Speaker 3: I've ever seen where he got kicked out of the
Speaker 3: game and then went to the locker room and put
Speaker 3: on boxing gloves.
Speaker 1: Do we know where those came from? The boxing glove?
Speaker 1: Is that their training new Maybe he was gonna get kicked.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was like travels with those Yeah, right, travel That's so.
Speaker 3: Like that's not a that's not a cool thing to
Speaker 3: be like, I'm going to box you with these padded
Speaker 3: boxing gloves. So it really is like prop comedy, like
Speaker 3: is his whole thing, just like he's trying to be silly,
Speaker 3: he's doing bits.
Speaker 2: I mean, Canadians are famously more hilarious than America.
Speaker 3: Yes, so good at prop comedy.
Speaker 2: This could be like some Nathan Fielder esque like four
Speaker 2: d Irony like meta work that we're not quite catching on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is that like coming out immediately after him
Speaker 3: being like yeah, I guess you're right. I am kind
Speaker 3: of like Kobe Bryant is pretty funny.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I do respect that.
Speaker 2: My character is the villain. Uh yeah, well good, we
Speaker 2: all need a brand stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyways, excited For for whatever reason, the Houston Rockets over
Speaker 3: the course of the offseason have entered like the conversation
Speaker 3: for me of like, I'm ritten, I really want to
Speaker 3: see what they're going to be, like like there's a
Speaker 3: big pickup and wins, like from what what Vegas is
Speaker 3: predicting for them. Dylan Brooks is now very intriguing to me.
Speaker 3: You know, I think they're gonna like gonna be one
Speaker 3: of the best coached teams in the league this year.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting. Anyways.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Dylan Brooks. Shout out to Germany, Canada,
Speaker 3: whoever came in second. Serbia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Serbia, you did it. You did it. We got nothing.
Speaker 3: Do you guys still think I still think that US
Speaker 3: team would be favored to win the end or the
Speaker 3: NBA Championship this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, if everyone plays at their absolute best ever
Speaker 2: that we've seen them, I could see that. I Mean,
Speaker 2: I don't I like that idea, but I guess they're
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's hard. It's hard to know. Playing
Speaker 2: like I saw them play together, I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know about that. But on paper again, on paper, that
Speaker 2: looks pretty good.
Speaker 5: I'd be curious if they'd be favored. I think i'm too.
Speaker 4: There's like the stain of how they just played his
Speaker 4: tattoos in my mind where I'm like, no, there's no
Speaker 4: way they'd be favored.
Speaker 1: But right like that collection.
Speaker 4: Of talent top to bottom is probably the best top
Speaker 4: to bottom talent that a team would have, right right right, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So shall we move into the Southeast Division and
Speaker 2: look at someone what the over unders are here?
Speaker 1: And do some predictions?
Speaker 3: I think we should after we take a little break,
Speaker 3: you know, I need, you know, Daddy needs his break,
Speaker 3: his little enough time, has a little shoe, hunk shoe.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: You're exactly ninety seconds. Yeah, yeah, all right, tell me
Speaker 3: when to go because I got hunk shoe this.
Speaker 1: Okay, forty go.
Speaker 3: Shoot and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back, Oh Southeast, baby, Yeah, first one up the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks last year?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you want a forty one division team? Over
Speaker 3: under predictions won the division year that everyone the division
Speaker 3: everyone's been waiting for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad Dan is here to help us
Speaker 2: understand this is just a little bit better because half
Speaker 2: of them like, what who is it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is this good? Is this reasonable?
Speaker 2: But the Hawks last year forty one and forty one
Speaker 2: obviously lost to the Celtics in the first round.
Speaker 1: They're saying this year they're gonna do a game and
Speaker 1: a half better forty two and a half.
Speaker 3: Baby, I will say this division has my maybe the
Speaker 3: most baffling under the like the furthest drop that I've
Speaker 3: seen Vegas predict for reasons that aren't clear to me, right,
Speaker 3: and that that's called a teaser. Yeah, because I'm not
Speaker 3: telling you which team it is until we get to
Speaker 3: this one. All right, it's the Hawks, now it's not
Speaker 3: the Hawks. So yeah, Hawks predicted to go up a
Speaker 3: game and a half from forty one forty one last
Speaker 3: year to forty two and a half. They showed me
Speaker 3: something against the Celtics a little bit. Quinn took Quinn
Speaker 3: Snyder took over twenty one games left last season. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I could see this, I could see this
Speaker 3: being an over I don't I don't really have a
Speaker 3: strong feeling either way, other than that when Trey is
Speaker 3: playing well, he seems like they seem like they should
Speaker 3: be so much better than five hundred, right, But I
Speaker 3: don't know it gonna be interesting. What do you think, Dan?
Speaker 4: I could see a scenario where this team ends up
Speaker 4: smashing this over just because do we think that Quinn
Speaker 4: Snyder could be worth more than two wins? I absolutely
Speaker 4: do him getting a training camp to go through with
Speaker 4: this entire roster. The offense should be more balanced without
Speaker 4: John Collins at least, but they also didn't do anything
Speaker 4: to get a lot better this year. It was just
Speaker 4: we're gonna get rid of John Collins and we're gonna
Speaker 4: sign Wes Matthews and we have Patty Mills now. The
Speaker 4: minutes without Trey Young when you played de Jontay Murray
Speaker 4: were disastrous last year, and what have you done to
Speaker 4: make those better? So they just still feel like they
Speaker 4: have too many fatal flaws. But the top end talent,
Speaker 4: like they're starting five last year was really effective for
Speaker 4: the most part all season, and plugging Sadik Bay or
Speaker 4: whoever they want to start in that spot of Collins,
Speaker 4: I would still think that they're pretty good. But I
Speaker 4: just feel like, I don't know, you look at this
Speaker 4: team and it feels like they are maybe like a
Speaker 4: wing or another combo forward short And are we going
Speaker 4: to have any drop off from Clin Capella who's had
Speaker 4: some weird fits and starts to the seasons. What are
Speaker 4: you gonna make of the Onyka Conglu situation? Who looks
Speaker 4: like is he ready to usurp Clin Capella? And based
Speaker 4: off everything they've said, and this is the last wild
Speaker 4: card that I'll focus on, is it seems like Jalen
Speaker 4: Johnson is gona have a pretty big role this year,
Speaker 4: and it's like you're banking a lot just between him
Speaker 4: and Griffin and on Yakakung was sort of on this
Speaker 4: internal development from last season without making any major additions.
Speaker 1: So could you be better? Sure?
Speaker 4: But I think that also leaves open the possibility because
Speaker 4: of the lack of change in addition that you're actually worse.
Speaker 4: And so it feels like they might have a lower
Speaker 4: floor than many people would expect. But if you told
Speaker 4: me they won forty seven games forty nine games, that
Speaker 4: actually wouldn't shock.
Speaker 3: I think people have expected them to win that many
Speaker 3: games the last two seasons. Like that kind of heading in.
Speaker 3: People were like, all right, they might be really good
Speaker 3: this year, and then, you know, after they made that.
Speaker 1: Deep playoff run, and then it.
Speaker 3: Never really came together for reasons that weren't clear really, like,
Speaker 3: it's not like they lost anyone from the playoff run
Speaker 3: to when they've been kind of mediocre for the past
Speaker 3: two years. And yeah, so it's interesting they they've gone
Speaker 3: with similar similar to the Celtics, where it's like this
Speaker 3: mainstay of the team, we've gotten rid of them, and
Speaker 3: we think that should really open things up. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I guess it. I guess it could, but we'll see,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Shall we switch it over to Florida? Sure, let's switch
Speaker 2: it over to North or South? You want to go
Speaker 2: to North or South Florida?
Speaker 1: Are they? I actually don't know which one. Orlando's Central? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I go right, Orlando Central.
Speaker 2: Let's go South Floridaay, the one that's higher or lower
Speaker 2: than Miami. Let's go to the one that's Miami bouncing
Speaker 2: into the city where the heat is on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do that one.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Miami.
Speaker 2: They went forty four and thirty eight, lost of the Nuggets
Speaker 2: in the finals. We saw that are there particularly go
Speaker 2: four and a half games better forty eight and a half.
Speaker 2: H Now, I think it's like when you see like
Speaker 2: gay Vincent leave.
Speaker 1: Or like Max Struce.
Speaker 2: I think, on paper, I'm like, okay, so how do
Speaker 2: they do four and a half games better? But I
Speaker 2: know they weren't necessarily big factors in the regular season,
Speaker 2: or Jimmy wasn't either, but as is Dame. The big
Speaker 2: thing that we're kind of waiting for, like just to
Speaker 2: see what happens there to begin to really make predictions.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Dan, if that forty eight and
Speaker 4: a half, My guess would be that it's pricing in
Speaker 4: that Damian Lillard is gonna end up with the heat,
Speaker 4: because I don't see how this team will be deep
Speaker 4: enough or healthy enough to win forty nine games if
Speaker 4: they don't get Damian. I like, I jud like Kyle
Speaker 4: Lowry's how old. Now, Yeah, we know what. Jimmy Butler
Speaker 4: is gonna kind of pace himself during the regular season
Speaker 4: and you lost, you know, gave Vincent Max streuce were
Speaker 4: averaged to slightly above average NBA players, but like they're
Speaker 4: just gone.
Speaker 1: You didn't get it.
Speaker 4: You didn't get anything for them, Like they're just gone,
Speaker 4: So you don't even have those innings leaders. I think, look,
Speaker 4: Josh Richardson really good pick up, but there's still some
Speaker 4: just holes in the front court and they desperately need
Speaker 4: shot creating and functional shooting around Bam and Jimmy, and
Speaker 4: they just not only did they not edit, they actively
Speaker 4: lost it.
Speaker 2: So far, Right, what do you what kind of season
Speaker 2: do you think to duncan Robinson's gonna have?
Speaker 4: I mean, he really had a renaissance during the playoff, right,
Speaker 4: so could I see him replacing a lot of what
Speaker 4: Max Shrews did. Probably Robinson's the worst defender, but like,
Speaker 4: is he Like is that Robinson renaissance worth five wins
Speaker 4: compared to last year?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Absolutely not? So right now, I would think they're more like.
Speaker 1: Like, first all, I'm surprised.
Speaker 5: There's even a number for this at the moment. I'd
Speaker 5: probably have like forty two or forty three for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just without Dame, Like if you again, if you
Speaker 4: get Dame, let's have the conversation, Like, without Dame, could
Speaker 4: do either of you two see them winning close to
Speaker 4: fifty games?
Speaker 1: Is currently concocted?
Speaker 2: No, I Mean that's why I was like saying as
Speaker 2: it is without Dame. I'm like, how are you doing
Speaker 2: four and a half better? I'm like, at best you
Speaker 2: kind of net out where you were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you said the phrase Josh Richardson was
Speaker 3: a really good pick up for them that made me
Speaker 3: have a physical reaction. I feel like I've heard that
Speaker 3: every every place that he's been for the past six years.
Speaker 4: He's on a minimum now at least, though, so it's
Speaker 4: kind of hard to with on expectations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, this feels high to me if the
Speaker 3: Dame thing isn't happening. It really feels like a lot
Speaker 3: of the people who know things around the league are
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, but Damn's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Come on, like like this is a done deal. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just we just.
Speaker 3: Need to wait for Portland to do the thing that
Speaker 3: they've chosen not to do up to this point. It's like,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand why it would happen if
Speaker 3: it hasn't already. But people seem confident. They almost had
Speaker 3: him on Miami in two k I feel like, so, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that screen cap that Jabari was saying
Speaker 2: was out there dameless already on the heap okay, but
Speaker 2: so do they know.
Speaker 1: Something at two K sports already? Yeah, Apacea Vegas is
Speaker 1: usually pretty smart about this stuff.
Speaker 4: So right, Look, Nikolaiovitch had a good World Cup, so
Speaker 4: just like he's clearly going to be the difference in
Speaker 4: the state. That's what people I got a kick out
Speaker 4: of them for me, like, oh, look at how good
Speaker 4: of a piece Nikolaiovich would be for Portland.
Speaker 5: Look at what he's doing in And so we've.
Speaker 4: Reached that point of the the negotiations where it's like
Speaker 4: every little thing has to have this big impact on
Speaker 4: how have.
Speaker 1: Any more picks? Like are they pretty light on picks
Speaker 1: for the.
Speaker 4: Next there's if they do, they have to renegotiate something
Speaker 4: with the Thunder, but they can give up three first
Speaker 4: round picks plus swaps, Like the offer isn't nothing. I
Speaker 4: just don't know if Portland's trying to like I don't
Speaker 4: know if YouTube. I'm assuming YouTube given some thought. This's like,
Speaker 4: what is the team that's going to come and give
Speaker 4: you more than let's just say the equivalent. I know
Speaker 4: they don't want Tyler Hero, but Tyler Hero and three
Speaker 4: first round picks and maybe a couple of swaps. The
Speaker 4: heat trying to lowball this where it's like we'll give
Speaker 4: you Tyler hero End a pick, because then that's obviously
Speaker 4: a different discussion. But their offer, their best theoretical offer
Speaker 4: to me, is at least a real offer. And I
Speaker 4: don't know who necessarily would be right, but.
Speaker 2: Do we know how close or far we are still
Speaker 2: with this whole deal? Like I think the last thing
Speaker 2: I saw was like Sham's tweet and it's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: he'll go to another team, but the second he's there,
Speaker 2: Dame will want to be going to Miami.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good deal for that team.
Speaker 2: I'm like, WHOA, Okay, that's pretty aggressive pr right there,
Speaker 2: but doesn't like or is or is it an inevitability?
Speaker 2: And is Portland going to be petty and be like
Speaker 2: we're gonna hold you before so you can't go to
Speaker 2: camp and then he.
Speaker 3: Doesn't help them?
Speaker 1: Right? I mean maybe it does, but it seems like
Speaker 1: that hurts up.
Speaker 4: Do you guys buy that Dame wouldn't show up to
Speaker 4: I think the report was he'd only show up to
Speaker 4: camp in Portland or Miami and nowhere else, Like do
Speaker 4: you buy that he's that type of like could he
Speaker 4: do the Harden.
Speaker 5: I just can't buy it.
Speaker 2: If you'll like, he's not built like that, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like he would show up, but it's a
Speaker 2: lot to risk for an NBA team, right because I
Speaker 2: think I think the follow up was, I mean, he'll
Speaker 2: go to another camp, but just no.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna like it.
Speaker 2: He'll be there, but his his whole mind will be
Speaker 2: on getting to Miami the second he's there. So I
Speaker 2: think that is a way of saying, like, look, he's
Speaker 2: gonna do what he's obligated to do, but you don't
Speaker 2: want him unless you know it's Miami.
Speaker 1: But hey, we shall see.
Speaker 3: Miami is also not the shocking under from this division.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 3: People are just on the edge of their See, I
Speaker 3: can't about the nive that Miami and Atlanta were not
Speaker 3: the surprising under for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about this next one? What about this next one?
Speaker 3: Is next the Orlando Magic. They are being predicted to
Speaker 3: go up two and a half games from thirty four
Speaker 3: and forty eight to thirty six and a half wins.
Speaker 3: It's a little more light to me if we're if
Speaker 3: we think Paolo is really gonna be that dude. This
Speaker 3: is usually from rookie to second year is usually a
Speaker 3: pretty big step up, and they have a lot of
Speaker 3: fun young pieces around him. They signed Joe Ingles, they
Speaker 3: drafted a couple of sixth and eleven pick like, those
Speaker 3: are not insignificant talents to add.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but sure two and a half sounds
Speaker 3: about right like that that feels that feels reasonable to
Speaker 3: me that they would go up two and a half wins.
Speaker 3: What's everybody feeling?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like thirty five years anniversary maybe that I
Speaker 2: always like an anniversary for a team, you know that anniversary?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow. So I'm like, I think of like
Speaker 1: how old I am, Like.
Speaker 2: Wow, I was, I were but a boy when they
Speaker 2: entered the league. But yeah, like I mean, Paolo and
Speaker 2: like Franz, they're all they seem like they keep evolving
Speaker 2: in the proper direction. So I don't know, I mean, like,
Speaker 2: pardon me. I get excited when I hear Magic fans
Speaker 2: talk about the Magic and when I hear their enthusiasm,
Speaker 2: like they could do more than two and a half games.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, Dan, am I fully off on this?
Speaker 1: No? This one to me right now? Anyway?
Speaker 4: Feels like I don't know, if you guys remember last
Speaker 4: year the Kings over under you looked at it and
Speaker 4: you were like, that's way too low. They were at
Speaker 4: like thirty five or something, and this kind of feels
Speaker 4: like that. Where they played their defense was elite for
Speaker 4: most of last year. I don't know if they have
Speaker 4: enough like offensive juice in them yet, but as you
Speaker 4: already mentioned Polo and Franz, they showed great growth throughout
Speaker 4: the course of the season. I think Jalen Suggs actually
Speaker 4: made some steps forward on that end as well. And
Speaker 4: if you can just get enough extra shooting from Jet
Speaker 4: Howard who they drafted, or Joe Angles, if he can
Speaker 4: play like a real role, if Gary Harris is as good,
Speaker 4: I worry about Anthony blacks fit a little bit just
Speaker 4: because he can't shoot either. So there's a lot of
Speaker 4: shooting question marks here, but on the defense, and then
Speaker 4: just like sort of the talent alone when you look
Speaker 4: at their top you know, five to six guys. I
Speaker 4: know the East is pretty wide open, but this feels
Speaker 4: like a team that should probably be flirting with like
Speaker 4: in the thirty nine win range East, And so I'm
Speaker 4: a little bit maybe I've listened to Magic fans too
Speaker 4: much myself. Hype up this team because where was it?
Speaker 4: Thirty six and a half? Thirty seven and a half
Speaker 4: just feels low. Yeah, they love Franz, don't they down
Speaker 4: there aggressively?
Speaker 1: So yeah, character and your boy Markel too, Jack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Markel is like the they they we we're all
Speaker 3: rooting for Markel Man, We're all rooting for yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I could see that they're going to be
Speaker 3: interesting to watch. Yeah, all right, they are not mine
Speaker 3: surprising under. Up next, we have the Washington Wizards, who
Speaker 3: last year won thirty five games five and forty seven,
Speaker 3: didn't qualify for the postseason. This year, they are expected
Speaker 3: to win twenty five and a half games. They're expected
Speaker 3: to drop ten and a half and a half or
Speaker 3: nine and a half, nine and a half. Man, it
Speaker 3: was ten and a half before and then and then
Speaker 3: it just went up one.
Speaker 1: Did it just change?
Speaker 3: This is my This is my shocking under. I don't
Speaker 3: know why what has changed, other than everyone being like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: These guys stake. It just feels like their fans just
Speaker 3: kind of quit on them. They got Jordan Pool, they
Speaker 3: lost Porzingis I guess Porzenis was pretty good last year,
Speaker 3: Pool was not great last year, So maybe people are
Speaker 3: just like his this is bad, bad, bad vibes here,
Speaker 3: but ten wins. I'm not saying I would take the
Speaker 3: over here necessarily, but it's a it's a big shift.
Speaker 3: But who hurts people who who they brought in, like,
Speaker 3: you know, an interesting piece and lost a piece that
Speaker 3: like is not It's not like one of the top
Speaker 3: twenty players in the league. It's not a ten win
Speaker 3: swing on the surface. But what am I missing here?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the two things are just like
Speaker 4: you lose what were your two best players last year,
Speaker 4: and then the other thing is and I would fall
Speaker 4: into this camp. This feels like it's pricing in that
Speaker 4: their new president of basketball Ops, Michael Winger, is not
Speaker 4: going to let them hit the over on this. And
Speaker 4: it's like Kyle Kuzma's deal feels like it was signed
Speaker 4: just to be traded. Tias Jones, will he finish the season?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 4: Are you going to see them start to maybe if
Speaker 4: they keep these guys shut them down in March or something.
Speaker 4: And I think you also get into like, well, what
Speaker 4: team in the East could they feasibly be better then,
Speaker 4: and I think you kind of start to run out
Speaker 4: of runway after Detroit and maybe Charlotte, who we've yet
Speaker 4: to talk about in this vision. And I think that's
Speaker 4: a big part of it, is that they're clearly starting over.
Speaker 4: Twenty five is aggressive, and I think there were only
Speaker 4: what were there two teams that only won fewer than twenty.
Speaker 1: Five last year or whatever it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like this feels like a team that's gonna
Speaker 4: do their darnedest to win fewer than twenty five games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true if they're tanking for whoever flag?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for flag, Like yo, man, just just get rid
Speaker 2: of them, trade pool, give me the flag.
Speaker 3: Get get rid of them all, lose them all, all right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can see that. It's Bill was Beal did play
Speaker 3: a lot last season and they Yeah, all right, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm on board. Forget what I said about this
Speaker 3: being a surprise and under.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna stink harder.
Speaker 3: I think I'm under on the watch Charlotte Hornets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: have you seen these guys? You heard about these guys.
Speaker 3: I heard they're expecting to pick up four and a
Speaker 3: half wins basically from the return of Lonzo. I mean
Speaker 3: LaMelo the return of Lamello. But this is a thing
Speaker 3: we were talking about, how we want them together.
Speaker 1: We're like they're always hurt. Yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if he's coming back, Like, oh right, LaMelo is.
Speaker 3: Melo is a different human being. He's very good. He's
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Actually, we'll say drafted Brandon Miller
Speaker 3: passed on a chance to draft Scoot Henderson. This is
Speaker 3: I think they will be haunted by that throughout this season.
Speaker 3: But yeah, four and a half, Like going up to
Speaker 3: thirty one and a half wins doesn't seem crazy to me.
Speaker 1: I could see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially because you mentioned LaMelo missed a ton of
Speaker 4: time last year, where he's played like thirty games or something. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so if you get relatively good health from him, and
Speaker 4: you get even like Cody Martin missed a bunch of
Speaker 4: time last year, Mark Williams should be better. Brandon Miller
Speaker 4: I think was the wrong pick, but like there's also
Speaker 4: a chance that Brandon Miller is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just not right.
Speaker 4: And I think their defense improved a lot last year
Speaker 4: under Steve Clifford. So like that feels just like better
Speaker 4: health from LaMelo and you know, having maybe better health
Speaker 4: like surrounding him, like that should be worth In the East,
Speaker 4: I would think like four or five wins, especially when
Speaker 4: you're working off such a little baseline. It's not like
Speaker 4: we're saying they're going from thirty seven to thirty one.
Speaker 2: Yere right right, yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I
Speaker 2: love the confidence of like yeah, wait till wait till
Speaker 2: b Miller got that Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: Though, are they feeling? Are they are? People?
Speaker 2: I mean I have I have, I know some some
Speaker 2: well I know one Rabbit Charlotte fan in my circle
Speaker 2: and they're like, trust me, we did we made the
Speaker 2: right decision.
Speaker 3: People are always wrong, Like in the immediate aftermath, like
Speaker 3: everyone was like Mathurin like what were they thinking. It's
Speaker 3: just the people who the obvious mistakes in the draft
Speaker 3: are don't always turn out to be the case. So
Speaker 3: we'll see, Yeah, Keegan Murray was supposed to be like, well,
Speaker 3: they're going to be looking back on that one and
Speaker 3: oh wait, Keegan Murray is really good. Never mind, all right,
Speaker 3: So there you have it. We have completed our team
Speaker 3: by team run down. Oh, Who's who's going to be
Speaker 3: good this year? Yeah, and you have it, the the
Speaker 3: official facts of.
Speaker 2: You can take the take all of our picks to
Speaker 2: the bank. Well not look like you said. This isn't
Speaker 2: a financial advice podcast. B don't take it to the
Speaker 2: bank literally, but you know, use it to.
Speaker 1: Take it to Las Vegas, and then you take your
Speaker 1: winnings to the bank. Thank you, thank you, exactly.
Speaker 3: I still have Phoenix and Okay, see if either of
Speaker 3: them wins.
Speaker 1: The title this year. You really went big on that one.
Speaker 3: I went big on Okay. See if Okay See wins
Speaker 3: the championship this year? Am I in the money?
Speaker 5: What were their odds that you don't like?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven?
Speaker 5: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I know it was.
Speaker 3: I had just seen a chet in another Summer League
Speaker 3: game for the first time in a year.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, he's tall and very smooth, but
Speaker 2: this is going the right way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see he's going on the right way. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's going that way that fast. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a it'll be a fun one. It's a team
Speaker 3: that I'm excited to watch, and I'll be even more
Speaker 3: excited to watch them because I got.
Speaker 2: A little ticket in my wallet broken dream. Can't she
Speaker 2: Let's take a break, should.
Speaker 1: We Yeah, let's do it. We'll be right back. We'll
Speaker 1: be back by.
Speaker 3: And we're back, and we're back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: I'm sundowning, all right. Is it time? It's time, It's time, Jali, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time.
Speaker 2: Now for the fourth quarter rapid fire round of Questions,
Speaker 2: Dan Favel, you are not a stranger to this segment.
Speaker 2: You answered correctly most of the questions last time, if
Speaker 2: I recall, but here it is is the fastest question
Speaker 2: answer segment in podcasting history. We're gonna ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Don't think too hard, just react respond, give us an
Speaker 2: answer right back. Don't let Jack or I drag this
Speaker 2: segment on. This up to you to say, hey, get
Speaker 2: it together, keep this thing moving. Is the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: round of rapid fire questions. So are you ready to
Speaker 2: have fa Valley to enter?
Speaker 5: I'm probably not ready, but let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love the confidence.
Speaker 3: Are ready Ryan start the law?
Speaker 1: Here we go. Do you want to go first or
Speaker 1: go first? I'll go first.
Speaker 3: That's great, Thank you so much for offering. You can
Speaker 3: take two players from all the history to create your
Speaker 3: Mad Boosey's Edition. NBA jam team. Which two players are
Speaker 3: you taking?
Speaker 5: I'm taking Glenn Rice and Glenn Rice.
Speaker 1: Glenn Rice.
Speaker 3: I love that Glenn Rice. Yeah, favorite Steph.
Speaker 1: Glenn Rice, justies.
Speaker 5: I used to go on fire with Glenn Rice a lot,
Speaker 5: one of my favorite players.
Speaker 1: NBA Jam player. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, and jam
Speaker 1: player I don't actually don't remember. You can probably don't
Speaker 1: from half more than that. Yeah, put the cheeks on,
Speaker 1: you know obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Ja Bryce Sa shout out to the two
Speaker 2: thousand Lakers with the dual ankle braces.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I was always rid of like, Glenn are you okay?
Speaker 2: But look he's just doing doing what he has to
Speaker 2: do to stay out there. Dan, what is your absolute
Speaker 2: boldest predictions, oldest for the upcoming NBA season. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about like, put your whole put your integrity on the
Speaker 2: line right now with a while. Wow, that reckless take
Speaker 2: go good.
Speaker 1: Pelicans are gonna make the Western Conference line. Wow, you're consistent.
Speaker 1: That was your pick last year? Bro? Was it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You were going hard for the Pelas.
Speaker 2: I remember, and afterwards you kind of I was like, well,
Speaker 2: damn kind of convinced me with his pells confidence.
Speaker 3: But I put a lot of money up on that
Speaker 3: man lost a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Hey send me that group behind you.
Speaker 5: Didn't we premise it that this wasn't financial advice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that you should have known. You should
Speaker 1: have known.
Speaker 3: No, I don't leave anything that Miles says.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, I mean so again this year, what
Speaker 2: we're seeing, we're seeing Zion healthy, We're seeing Bingie healthy.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean Trey Murphy's already injured.
Speaker 2: That doesn't I know? Well that's big? So can I ask?
Speaker 2: This is Trey Murphy the third a little bit redundant.
Speaker 1: Like as a player on this team or no.
Speaker 2: Name, his name being Tray is trade like people get
Speaker 2: Trey as like as a nickname if you are the third?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's also I don't know if you guys
Speaker 4: been in Collis like New Orleans. Fans don't like when
Speaker 4: you call him Trey Murphy the third.
Speaker 2: I know I've never because I never see it. It's
Speaker 2: always Trey Murphy. But then when you look at other
Speaker 2: reports like Trey Murphy. Ai, is that what they would
Speaker 2: have us call him?
Speaker 1: Trey Murphy? AYII? Yeah? Is that what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fans say, yai yai Yai yai. I don't know anyway,
Speaker 1: Mama call him the third. I'm gonna call him the third.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jabari. But yeah, I mean like, so this
Speaker 1: is this is it this, it's this year. It wasn't
Speaker 1: last year. It's this year.
Speaker 4: It could have I mean if Zion was healthy. I
Speaker 4: mean that's that's a big if. At this point, I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what if Ben Simmons had a jumper, what if Zion
Speaker 4: was healthy? But like they were near the top, they
Speaker 4: were second in the West, like leading into the new year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's legit.
Speaker 5: I still think.
Speaker 4: That's like the only team that I'm prepared to say, Oh,
Speaker 4: they're definitely better than New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that. I like that.
Speaker 4: Props though, remembering what I saidlast year, because I clearly
Speaker 4: didn't remember what I said last year.
Speaker 2: No, it's god, that was Jabari because we were talking
Speaker 2: because we're trying to remember the last time you're on
Speaker 2: and they were like, oh right, Dan was going hard
Speaker 2: for the Pels. And that's when I remember too, because
Speaker 2: I think that was that was the beginning of me
Speaker 2: getting on that boom bus cycle again.
Speaker 1: We're like, this is this year, this year, Yep.
Speaker 3: The beginning of me writing your name on a list
Speaker 3: of people who have wronged me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then he prank calls you it puts lipstick on
Speaker 2: after you resolved.
Speaker 3: Your is the who's the best player you've ever witnessed
Speaker 3: in person?
Speaker 1: And what did you see them do?
Speaker 4: Uh? It was Kevin rant was in person. And it
Speaker 4: was when he was on the thunder.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He was playing the Knicks and they went into overtime
Speaker 4: and he hit some Truly, I was sitting behind the basket.
Speaker 4: He hit some of the most ridiculous jumpers I've ever
Speaker 4: seen in my entire life. Like the nixt weren't good then,
Speaker 4: so it's not like they were defending him with peak level,
Speaker 4: but his ability and control just when he's spinning and
Speaker 4: turning with the ball and the rain that he had
Speaker 4: on it. And I was like, not an old man
Speaker 4: like I am now at the time, I'm marveled at
Speaker 4: what he was doing in in person. I think as
Speaker 4: you get older and go to more games, do you
Speaker 4: become numb to some of the stuff Like that was
Speaker 4: just like it was a revelatory moment watching him go
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 2: But Okay, I got to ask you this one and please, Dan,
Speaker 2: we got to keep this moving. Like I appreciate that
Speaker 2: answer is very thorough, but sometimes we're about speed and
Speaker 2: not quality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're about quantity.
Speaker 3: So that's too poetic, too good an answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he said revelatory, I was like, this guy's
Speaker 2: a poet and don't he know it?
Speaker 5: But that's not the best play I ever saw was
Speaker 5: the Neil Gallinari.
Speaker 3: And because he was wearing his blue or his green,
Speaker 3: Saint Patty's Dan Jersey, Dampa Valley.
Speaker 2: If you could have any player's skill set for a day,
Speaker 2: Who's whose is it and what skill set is it?
Speaker 2: And we do add the caveat that it's in your body,
Speaker 2: whatever condition to your body is. So if you think
Speaker 2: you're gonna get you know, just Matt boost these and
Speaker 2: be taking change off the top of the backboard.
Speaker 1: Can your body handle coming around in earth? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: they take that into mind, or if you're willing to
Speaker 1: risk it all, take it into mind. As the saying
Speaker 1: take it into mind.
Speaker 6: I want Steph Curry's handles. Then Steph Curry's handles. We've
Speaker 6: heard Shooter's handles. Wow, okay, you said no elaboration. I
Speaker 6: want Steph Curry's handles.
Speaker 1: Okay, well this time I do want you to elaborate why, because.
Speaker 4: The way my body is built like it would do
Speaker 4: more for me if I could actually be elusive and
Speaker 4: rather than just chucking up threes where I would probably
Speaker 4: easily get blocked. Even if I had Steph Curry's touch
Speaker 4: and range, my shot would easily get blocked.
Speaker 2: Right, And Dan, like I said, we have to keep
Speaker 2: this second, you know, and I appreciate that answer, But
Speaker 2: that was a setup.
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, you can place any former New York
Speaker 3: great on next year's roster. Which former grade are you
Speaker 3: adding to the mix?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, I uh just throw Prime Patrick Ewing?
Speaker 1: Prime Ewing? Thanks years, Nick, Yeah, yeah, I would love that, man.
Speaker 1: And what is it about Prime Patrick Ewing?
Speaker 5: We got to keep this moving, so I don't care.
Speaker 2: I like that, Which brings us to our next question
Speaker 2: and the most important question of all, Dan fora Valley,
Speaker 2: Jack or Miles.
Speaker 1: Both right, Okay, we'll take that. We'll take that. We'll
Speaker 1: take that, we'll split them. That's okay, we'll do that.
Speaker 1: We'll do that. Oh well, Dan for Valley, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us on.
Speaker 2: Miles and Jack got Matt boost teas man, where can
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