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Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Chargian.
Speaker 1: It's Fantasy Football Weekly Micro edition. Paul Charging with you
Speaker 1: my co host. As is the normally the case for
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly Micro, Tyler Cannabily.
Speaker 3: Hey Tyler, here we go one?
Speaker 4: Want to go another one?
Speaker 3: Down?
Speaker 4: This one? Who we talking about?
Speaker 3: Chicago Bears running back Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 4: Yes, I like this a lot.
Speaker 1: This is this The Bears backfield situation is muddy, which
Speaker 1: makes it fascinating to discuss. Herbert has had stretches of
Speaker 1: real success and stretches are hasn't performed. I think this
Speaker 1: is a fantastic case study. And these are the kinds
Speaker 1: of picks like if you get Herbert right or wrong,
Speaker 1: really helps your team if you and I'm excited to
Speaker 1: talk this through. There's a lot to dissect here. Let
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Speaker 1: Correct, yeah, correct, All right, let's break down speen of Bears.
Speaker 4: Let's break down Khalil Herbert. Last year.
Speaker 1: We've seen, we've seen stretches. He's been a very good runner.
Speaker 4: Let's just talk.
Speaker 1: Let's dissect the running game for Khalil Herbert a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in the ground game, he was like just
Speaker 3: fantastic last year. He had the most rushing yards over
Speaker 3: expected per attempt last season and the second most rushing
Speaker 3: yards after contact attempts per attempt stat. Because he missed
Speaker 3: some games, it's just an easier way to kind of
Speaker 3: filter through his actual running stats. We had their great
Speaker 3: stats on the ground. The Bears were also second in
Speaker 3: rushing attempts and then first in rushing yards last season,
Speaker 3: which makes them.
Speaker 4: Well okay, but their quarterbacks skews that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like how the Eagles are always
Speaker 1: like first and second rushing attempts and rushing yards.
Speaker 3: But but they finished like top five again this year,
Speaker 3: maybe not like two or one, but I feel like,
Speaker 3: I mean, they have DJ morbid. Outside of that, they
Speaker 3: still don't have that many weapons. I feel like this
Speaker 3: team is I mean, they ran the ball good last year,
Speaker 3: they were terrible teams, so maybe they want to be
Speaker 3: more balanced. But we'll see the problem with Herbert though,
Speaker 3: is he's just not a receiving back correct at all
Speaker 3: at all. He had nine catches on twelve targets last season,
Speaker 3: which is not good.
Speaker 1: Yes, but neither is the other running backs. They don't
Speaker 1: have a pass catching running back, so Roachan Johnson had
Speaker 1: thirteen receptions per year at Texas so effectively won a
Speaker 1: game and almost all screen passes. By the way, for
Speaker 1: Roschan Johnson and Donta Foreman is no pass catcher either,
Speaker 1: So it makes you wonder if maybe Herbert can catch
Speaker 1: a little bit better than what we've seen, So maybe
Speaker 1: does get a little bit more, or maybe nobody does
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna throw more to col cometters.
Speaker 3: They do have Travis Homer too though, as the third down.
Speaker 1: Yeah he can catch, Yeah, he can catch yep. So
Speaker 1: there's that a little bit as well. Here's the other
Speaker 1: thing about Herbert. He's not a power back, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's a real question about whether or not he gets
Speaker 1: goal line duty. And I think the answer here is
Speaker 1: probably not. Over Khalil Herbert's three year career, he's been
Speaker 1: given eleven carries from inside the five yard line, which
Speaker 1: he converted into just three touchdowns on eleven carries, and
Speaker 1: his most recent touchdown from inside the five was way
Speaker 1: back in Week three of last year. So you know,
Speaker 1: just this team just didn't want to go with Herbert.
Speaker 1: You know, they know they know what Herbert's all about.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to use him as a power back.
Speaker 1: So I you know, who is a power back? Roseean
Speaker 1: Johnson's a power back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude's can't he is.
Speaker 4: So I just don't.
Speaker 1: Think Khalil Herbert is going to catch much and he's
Speaker 1: not gonna score touchdowns. And that's taking two of the
Speaker 1: three primary ways we need our running backs to score
Speaker 1: fantasy points off the table.
Speaker 3: And that's the problem because he could you'll probably get
Speaker 3: like I could see him being a double digit carry
Speaker 3: a game kind of guy. But those carries are all
Speaker 3: gonna come in between the twenties. They're not gonna he's
Speaker 3: he's not gonna catch any passes. So it's just gonna
Speaker 3: be a thing where what do you do with him?
Speaker 3: Like he might have like a good amount of attempts,
Speaker 3: but he's not gonna get those high quality touches that
Speaker 3: you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Give me an average Khalil Herbert stat line, just average stat.
Speaker 4: Line from any game this year. All right, well let
Speaker 4: me no, no, no, off your head projecting.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotcha.
Speaker 4: What do you think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be twelve carries for sixty five yards and
Speaker 3: zero touchdowns in half a catch a game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, that's six point five fantasy points.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna get it done exactly no matter what format.
Speaker 1: Like he and he might we saw him like break
Speaker 1: off a couple like long runs last.
Speaker 3: Season, and he's probably gonna do that again the season.
Speaker 3: He might have like a couple you know, forty yard
Speaker 3: touchdowns are like a sixty yard game, but he might
Speaker 3: just he's gonna get getting a guess they're gonna throw
Speaker 3: rochan ort Deonta Foreman in the game and inside the
Speaker 3: five yard line and right they're gonna get the touchdowns
Speaker 3: and he's not. I'd be I would be shocked if
Speaker 3: he finished with the most touchdowns among this backfield.
Speaker 1: How much of a factor is Rocheon Johnson. It's this
Speaker 1: is a player that is polarizing.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 1: We had to throw Nice Tramant right after the draft.
Speaker 1: Loves Rochean Johnson and he was like, Khalul Herbert's career
Speaker 1: is over. But I I look at Roshan Johnson and
Speaker 1: I he got very little use to Texas caause he's
Speaker 1: playing behind John Robinson. So I get that, but he's
Speaker 1: when I when I watched him, I was like, Eh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, He's got.
Speaker 4: Decent wiggle for a big guy.
Speaker 1: He's certainly got power, But I wasn't blown away at
Speaker 1: what Rocheon Johnson was able to do. And I see
Speaker 1: this as a muddy split backfield where I think two
Speaker 1: and a half guys are gonna get a lot of
Speaker 1: work every game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree with you. I mean, it
Speaker 3: kind of depends on who you talk to about Roshan Johnson.
Speaker 3: Like some people are like, if he wasn't at Texas,
Speaker 3: he he would have been drafted higher, would you right?
Speaker 3: It's kind of a good thing that, I mean, he
Speaker 3: got drafted. I think was the fourth round, maybe that
Speaker 3: very end of the third I can't remember off the
Speaker 3: top of my head. But he to go in the
Speaker 3: third round play behind Beishon Robinson is actually that's incredible.
Speaker 3: That's actually crazy. So I like Rochean. I think he's
Speaker 3: going to be used in the in the passing game
Speaker 3: a little bit more. I mean, I feel like I've
Speaker 3: seen some stuff out of camp suggesting that he will.
Speaker 3: Mean it's ota, so I don't want to pipe too
Speaker 3: much smoke on that, but I don't know. I I
Speaker 3: think Rochean could be a guy who at the end
Speaker 3: of the season, it's just like, oh, we should have
Speaker 3: saw this coming. He's gonna come on the later half
Speaker 3: of the year. He's going to be I don't know
Speaker 3: if like, if he becomes their power back, that's that's
Speaker 3: like probably best case scenario for Roshan and he gets
Speaker 3: a couple of receptions here and there, a game.
Speaker 1: They put a first round pick the Bears did into
Speaker 1: their right tackle Darnell. Right, I like that they've got
Speaker 1: stability at right guard now finally, which is uh guard's
Speaker 1: been an ongoing problem for the Bears. So there's some
Speaker 1: reasons to think that an offensive line that got better
Speaker 1: last year can get incrementally a little better this year
Speaker 1: as well, assuming Darnell writes the kind of player requisite
Speaker 1: of the first round pick, and so there's reason to
Speaker 1: think this.
Speaker 4: You know, this running game can be okay.
Speaker 1: And we're not saying I'm not saying Khlil Herbert's not rosterble,
Speaker 1: but I do think the low receptions and the low
Speaker 1: touchdowns makes.
Speaker 4: It pretty uncompelling. He feels like a flex starter at best.
Speaker 3: He's being drafted as the number one guy in this
Speaker 3: backfield right now, which is why we're talking about him.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: just like, we just don't know what this is going
Speaker 3: to shape out to. Now. If there's a lot of
Speaker 3: volume in this running attack like there was last year,
Speaker 3: there might be a case to be made for Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 3: And he's a guy who was drafted like a lot
Speaker 3: before the draft, but then they draft ro Seawan and
Speaker 3: it's like it feels like there's three of four guys.
Speaker 3: I mean, Deonta Foreman is no joke. Last year he
Speaker 3: was good. I think the only problem for him was
Speaker 3: it's like a one year, two million dollars deal. He's
Speaker 3: cuttable that easily. Yeah, he could be. He could be
Speaker 3: cut and he could even be a guy like a
Speaker 3: healthy scratch. If he's not better than if he's not
Speaker 3: as good as a power back than Roshan, or he's
Speaker 3: not he's obviously not receiving back better received back than anyone.
Speaker 3: So it's just who's gonna be the odd guy out
Speaker 3: in this in this backfield because right now it's kind
Speaker 3: of up for grabs. This could be an interesting training camp.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like interesting preseason week one where all
Speaker 3: the touches come from and everyone's gonna break that down.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, Roshan had five carries, Deonta Foreman had one,
Speaker 3: Clelil Herbert had five.
Speaker 1: So let's uh, let's look at the ADP for Khalil
Speaker 1: Herbert going off the board is running back forty right now,
Speaker 1: who's going around him?
Speaker 3: Rashad Penny RB thirty seven.
Speaker 4: I think I'd go Herbert.
Speaker 1: I mean with Penny, you know, we know, no Eagles
Speaker 1: back is gonna get a lot of work consistently. That's
Speaker 1: just not how Nick Sirianni runs his offense. So it's
Speaker 1: it's not happening. So I'm out. I'm out on Penny.
Speaker 3: Do you think Penny could be like the Miles Sanders
Speaker 3: of last season? Though?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's possible if but then again, I need
Speaker 1: him to play seventeen games.
Speaker 3: Rashaan. Penny's another guy who's cuttable too, Like he only
Speaker 3: got like a million dollars in free agency, so he
Speaker 3: could be cut as well.
Speaker 4: If he gets hurt, he probably will get cut, which.
Speaker 1: He might get hurt so and it can't stay healthy,
Speaker 1: you know with Herbert, and Herbert's been dinged up too,
Speaker 1: but not like Penny. I mean, Penny has the season
Speaker 1: enders every year, right, Yeah, so yeah, I would. I
Speaker 1: would take Khalil Herbert over shot Penny, all right.
Speaker 3: Damien Harris RB thirty eight.
Speaker 1: See, I like Harris, and I think you know you
Speaker 1: and I have talked. We've talked bills before we broke down,
Speaker 1: do we not do Cook? I think James we did
Speaker 1: James Cook, and we talked a lot about Harris and
Speaker 1: why we're worried about Harris eating into Cook's time. I
Speaker 1: think I'd rather go Damian Harris, who was a legitimately
Speaker 1: good back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think hot take of the Summer verst one,
Speaker 3: I think Damian Harris outscores James Cook and fantasy points. Well,
Speaker 3: I like it, Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking Damian Harris, all right, Who's next?
Speaker 3: Antonio Gibson RB thirty nine, a guy who's got a
Speaker 3: lot of buzz the past couple of weeks. It feels
Speaker 3: like why because Eric the enemy was Like everyone just
Speaker 3: they think that Antonio Gibson is the new Jerck McKinnon. Okay, maybe,
Speaker 3: and I think it gains might be a better player
Speaker 3: than Jerck McKinnon honestly.
Speaker 4: Okay, but let's remember Jerck McKinnon.
Speaker 1: If you'd have said that at any point in Jerick
Speaker 1: McKinnon's six year career before last December, nobody would have cared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that would have been an insult to say
Speaker 1: you're the next Jerck McKinnon. Now then he blows up
Speaker 1: in December in the playoffs, and now apparently being Jack
Speaker 1: McKinnon is a good thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not listening.
Speaker 1: I'll take Khalil Herbert over Antonio.
Speaker 3: I think I'll roll with Gibson, all right, uh, Elijah
Speaker 3: Mitchell RB forty one. It's a tough one because the upside,
Speaker 3: the upside play is definitely Mitchell. I see anything.
Speaker 1: Happens with Christian McCaffrey, which it has in two of
Speaker 1: the last three.
Speaker 3: Years, and he got some good He got some good
Speaker 3: runs even when McCaffrey was like playing.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll take Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Jamal Williams RB forty two.
Speaker 4: Three man backfield.
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like the Saints. I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like well, I don't like the Saints. I don't like
Speaker 1: that three person backfield, I think, and Jamal Jamal Williams, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have seventeen touchdowns again, obviously. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would take cool and the safety of Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 3: I think, And then bonus one Roshan Johnson RB forty three.
Speaker 3: Who would you rather have? Three picks? Later? Who would
Speaker 3: you rather have?
Speaker 1: I'm taking roche On Johnson because I know I can
Speaker 1: get touchdowns. I think I can get touchdowns out of
Speaker 1: Rochon Johnson that I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to get with Herbert. And if it turns out that.
Speaker 1: Rochon Johnson is just a better runner, I don't think
Speaker 1: he is. I think Herbert's a pretty good running back,
Speaker 1: then I'm in a better spot with I'm in a
Speaker 1: better spot with Roshan Johnson. I think i'd go for
Speaker 1: the touchdown upside.
Speaker 3: How about you, I'm with you, Roshan Johnson, especially. You
Speaker 3: can get him a couple Boks later too. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: you can even get him like a full round later.
Speaker 3: That'd be nice, all right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's do tomorrow's Fantasy Football Weekly Micro.
Speaker 4: Let's do another.
Speaker 1: Lead running back with a lot of question marks on
Speaker 1: the team and players around him and everything else on
Speaker 1: tomorrow's FFW micro.
Speaker 4: How's that sound.
Speaker 3: Let's do it, all right?
Speaker 4: Stay tuned, everybody. Thanks,