1 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to a Halloween version of 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: No Fouls Given. 3 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Big Wise. 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm here, of course, with the two legends, Danny Green. 5 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce shouts to the presenting sponsored prize picks as always, Paul. 6 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: You didn't give us the memo that you were coming. 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know. 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: He's doing the Halloween outside. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: You're going to going to a little event. 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: Got could you explain what the fites? 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 5: This was my my b boy? 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: You did you back in the day break dance? 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Somebody hit me somebody just before. 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: You know, people back, hold on, you don't know the 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: block paying full. 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 5: Of This is a real one, like money. 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: This is my yeah, wow, you kept you got all 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: that in the story. 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: This is real. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 5: This is this is real people way back in the day. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 5: But this is really you know this ain't no problem. 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: You was really in it, man, Oh yeah, yeah, you 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: know that's crazy boy for real. 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: You used to have to call Shorty after nine pm. 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: The minute house going back. 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: All right, Well, welcome back, guys man. A lot of 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: great feedback on the on the pilot. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: Episode, first episode. 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: Super excited about that, super excited about where we take it. 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: But first let's review our picks from the prize pigs 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: segment from episode one when nights matchups really quickly. The 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: first was Donovan Mitchell more or less than twenty eight 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: and a half. Danny said more he only had fifteen. 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: It was a rough knight for Dom. 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: Bro, it's tough. 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: Who's that versus Celtics? Yeah, that's less less. 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Next pig Evan Mobley more or less eighteen and a half. 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: Paul said less, he had nineteen. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: He picked it up. 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: Don had a little injury, but I don't think they 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 4: was just cold, Bro, he wasn't gonna. 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: Get to it. 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: Then we had Austin Reeves more or less than twenty 47 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: nine and a half. 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: Paul said less. 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Just got it that game winner. Two was that twenty eight. 50 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: I thought he's gonna get He was at twenty six 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: like halfway through the fourth, maybe like three or four 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: minutes left. I thought he was gonna get there. 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 5: But but listen, though, price picks is good because like 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 5: eighteen and a half and he had nineteen. 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: He knew exactly what the line is, yeah, bro. 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: And lastly, Cade more or less than twenty five and 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: a half. 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Danny said more he dropped the thirty thirty more. 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: That's the one I got right, I got Evan and 60 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: I got kay right thirty ball Tennis says he got 61 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 4: to be more aggressive. They played well, mind you, they 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: played your Orlando magic. 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 64 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: So it was kind of it was kind of a 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: smooth win for them. 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: The second half was yeah, you know, follow and Tobody's 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: got into it briefly. Uh, and then the second half 68 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: the momentum swung a little bit. 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: So all right, now let's get into last night's games. 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: We saw the Warriors go down to the Bucks without 71 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Giannis and they basically was toe to toe and then 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: pulled away in the fourth quarter. Ryan Hollins had thirty 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: two points against his former team. 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ryan Rollins, Ryan Rollins, Oh. 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Big man, Ryan. 76 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever dropped thirty two. 77 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: Probably not. 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: He's never had it in any game. 79 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: The young fellow in ball, especially if the guards was 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: too with the two small guys. Cole came out high 81 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: and he came out hogh. But he kept it going. 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: But you know who been you know, mentoring him, Rondo. 83 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's over there. 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: Over there, he's been taking them under his wing, and 85 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: I'm seeing I'm seeing some dog and Ryan Rollins. 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: Man, it's not just threes, man, he get into the basket, 87 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: your stuff, finishing at the rim, like he's being aggressive. 88 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: So I like how he's playing, leading the charge. And 89 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: then said, they getting eight guys and double figures. You know, 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: Bobby Porters, uh, Cole Anthony Miles Turner, like they getting production, Coops, 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: They're getting production all across the board. And you know, 92 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: before the season started again, I thought Giannis was gonna 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 4: be out and I thought they was gonna be trash. 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Right. 95 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: If they can get a win, that's a big win 96 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: for them without Giannis, and it's a bad loss for 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 4: Golden State. 98 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: Bad loss. You know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: You beat the Clippers, you beat a couple, you beat 100 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: Denver saying overtime, there'll be some heavy hitters, and you 101 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 4: lose to a you know, a team like this without Giannis. Again, 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: it's early in the season. I'm sure they fatigue. They 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: play six games. Not many teams have gotten six games. 104 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: But that's a tough loss for Golden States. 105 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Before we move on, I'm noticing a trend with Paul 106 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: where anytime he could claim. 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: A success for a celt he's gonna do it. Remember 108 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: with KG in the off season, so that. 109 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: This off season influence, this early season, starting now, Rondo 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: has been mentoring Rollins and so that's the Celtics. 111 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: Success over there, we got as well influence. 112 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: I love that. I do. 113 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Gotta say though, just watching this Bucks, this Bucks team 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: this year, they do just seem like way more together. 115 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: They're playing super hard, docs seems like he's coaching them up. 116 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: This just wasn't the energy around the team last year. 117 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I think something's been galvanizing this. 118 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: We got more time together. 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah again, you got guys said playing hard Torrian Prince, 120 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 4: like you got Gary Trent Junior. I got a couple 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: of guys with some vets and some young guys to 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: mix in. But you know, they seem like a group 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: that's like molding. 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's cool to see. 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm definitely surprised by their early season success. Don't yell 126 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: at me on the internet, Milwaukee fans. I didn't believe 127 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: in you guys, but you guys have proven. 128 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 5: Me on us. I mean, they got trust Earl. 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm not trust me trust Yeah, it's eighty two games. 130 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: As we said last episode. Next up, we also saw 131 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the Thunder continue their undefeated streak, of course against the 132 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: lowly Wizards. 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 134 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Wizards. They put up a fight, bro. 135 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: It was a good game until like the end of 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: the fourth Like those young kids were playing playing well 137 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: play like Blao Keishawn George like they've been they were bawling. 138 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 4: But Thunder, so they're playing some really good basketball, especially 139 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: down the stretch, which is a good sign. 140 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, they got that presence you know when you win it. 141 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They just always feel you 142 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 5: in the game. 143 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: That's how Golden State was so like they just that 144 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: they thought they were like they didn't feel they were 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: threat threat until Milwaukee and then you can't let a 146 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: team like that get confidence. But yeah, definitely Thunders is 147 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: on some we good. We ain't worried at all no 148 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: matter who they've been in close games. But I think 149 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: this is and eventually long run's gonna help them because 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: they used to playing in a crunch time minutes and 151 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: when they get j dub back. 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's this thing. 153 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Because I was talking to some people before the season 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: and like one of the one of the things that 155 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: they predicted was that okay se would would break the 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: record for point differential, like they would blow so many 157 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: teams out, and it's been kind of like this season, 158 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: it's just like, look, we're gonna win. 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're not completely healthy right now. Topitch. 160 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Shouts to him and his family. Hopefully he has a 161 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: speedy recovery. 162 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: He's been reported that he suffering from testicular cancer, which. 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what that recovery has to be like. 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: So shouts to him and his family. Young guy people. 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Because he missed all of last season with the season 166 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: engine ending injury. I think he had a knee if 167 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and now he's probably gonna miss all 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: of this season. 169 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Tough start to his career. 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 1: And then our next result, the Miami Heat went face 171 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: face to face with. 172 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: The Spurs undefeated team. 173 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: There's not many left, but Spurs undefeated still bro conferences 174 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: I said they were going to this year. They have 175 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: a chance to get to the Western Conference finals if. 176 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 5: They stayed in the conference, they stay at home court. 177 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: This is the first team and Spurs franchise history to 178 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 4: go five and oh, which is kind. 179 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: Of crazy that was shocking because they got Dave. 180 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: Robinson, Timmy, the Timmy years, even the years had with 181 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: Tony and Mono Kawhi, Like, we didn't we won sixty 182 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: seven games one year when you. 183 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: Didn't start apparently apparently not. 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: I mean I thought we did. 185 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: You know, Sean was on the game calling it Sean 186 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 4: Elliot and he was like, nah, that's got to be wrong. 187 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 4: I thought it was wrong, but I guess we probably 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: lost the game. And at some point between the first 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: five games. 190 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Of course, we got to talk about Wemby, who's just 191 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: continuinging just. 192 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: To tour almost a twenty twenty game. 193 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Just twenty seven I believe, eighteen rebounds, another six dimes, 194 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: five blocks, adding the still only three turnovers, which I 195 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: think is a big deal for because early on in 196 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: his career he was kind of a turnover machine. 197 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: They were letting him experiment do crazy said when I 198 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 4: was watching him, like, what's going on over here? Just 199 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: letting him do it? 200 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: Who was coaching him? 201 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 4: That's definitely not power, but they was just letting it, 202 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: which I mean it's paying, Yeah, it's paying dividence. Now 203 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: you're seeing the game in a way. 204 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 5: This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. You 205 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: and I make decisions every day, but on Prize Picks, 206 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 5: being right can get you paid. 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That's cold NFG to get fifty 227 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar 228 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: lineup prize picks is good to be right, And Paul, 229 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: you were somebody who in your career you got a 230 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: chance to handle the rock, you know, sort of monopolized possessions. 231 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: When do you think it clicked for you? 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: How did it click for you when you could just 233 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: see what the defense is doing and manipulate it to 234 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: your own ends. To go from a young guy to 235 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: just dictating terms to the defense. 236 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 5: I think my third year that lead. You think the 237 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 5: third year says a lot, you know what I'm saying. 238 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 5: When you know a guy is gonna be a certain 239 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 5: type of player, like your third year, you're gonna be like, Okay, 240 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: he gonna be waner than once and some later than others. 241 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: But most of the guys, when you look at the. 242 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: Superstars in the league by year three, by year three, 243 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: they either an all star or borderline off star. Yeah, 244 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: and you know we already seen that from him in 245 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: year one, that he was gonna be a problem, but 246 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: now he's looking like a major problem. 247 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah at the MVP status. 248 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's no question that he's an MVP content. 249 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: What I'm impressed. Is not just said the way he's 250 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: been hooping, but the other guys. I also thought was 251 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: gonna have a really breakout year. So about that thirty 252 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: years this is year two for him. Stephan Castle. Yeah, 253 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: like he's been defensively. I think he had like four 254 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: or five steals. Four steals, but twenty one, six and eight. Yeah, 255 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, it's without Darren Fox, like 256 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: we expecting there'd be some shakiness. 257 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: Out being the Fox. He's been hooping. 258 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: And also Dylan Harper number two pick thirteen off the bench, 259 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: Keldon Johnsons been hooping like they getting some production at 260 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes doing well vesel seventeen to nine, Like they 261 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: get some good they got a lot of depth. They're 262 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: looking like a young Okay, say so to me. 263 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 264 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about this because Darren 265 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Fox is out, and that's why I love the NBA. 266 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: It's such a cutthroat, high intensity, high competition league. Like 267 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: they traded for this guy that sort of helped them 268 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: get to the point where they could do stuff like 269 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: start five five and on the season. They've got these 270 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: two young guards that need to be developed they already 271 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: paid this dude, Like, do you think the coach is 272 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to massage that? 273 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: I think so? 274 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: I mean, or do they got to figure out a 275 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: way to get to pay a Dylan Harper or Sef 276 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: Castle for another couple. 277 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: Of years when they do have to play them. 278 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: They do so. 279 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: When their contract with their extension kicks in. It'll be 280 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: towards the end of Darren Fox's tenure, which now the 281 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: early years is the most important where he can kind 282 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: of take Dylan Harper under his wing, Steph Castle and 283 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: allow them to grow and still, you know, do what 284 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: he does. I think there's a world where they can all. 285 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: Live, all three of them again. You know, you know 286 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: how the NBA is. 287 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: It's an abundance of injuries as of late, which sucks, 288 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: but you need like it's like almost you need depth. 289 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: You need too many guards, you need too many bigs 290 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: because there's always somebody out is he is he gonna. 291 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 5: Stunt the development of these young guys coming. We're seeing 292 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: what they're doing now, Like, say, he gets healthy, what 293 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: do you is he starting? 294 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: He's got me, He's got to start, I'm saying, guy, 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: But Dylan is still again who you. Who I'm saying, 296 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: who you take out a starting lineup to me is 297 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: probably Champenny. 298 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: He's the shooter. 299 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 4: So you can have a sell A Castle at the 300 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: two La the three Wemby and Harrison Barnes, So like 301 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: Champagny can come off, come off the bench, so you 302 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: can still start them together and have the two men 303 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: punch with Stephan Castle and Fox. And I think it 304 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: only helps Dylan Harper grow, like now if he's still 305 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: starting by year three or four, Dylan Harper that third 306 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 4: year you're talking about, Now you're stunning. I think now 307 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 4: you're getting into this what. 308 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 5: I would do if I'm the G. If I'm the GM, 309 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: I'm looking like right now, I'm looking at us right now, 310 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: I'm like, we can really make a run. I might 311 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: need to trade Fox and get another veteran at a 312 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 5: different position, sure to help them to help, like maybe 313 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: another big I'm like my young guards. Yes, I need 314 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: them to develop for sure on the same timeline as Wemby. 315 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: I keep him for two years. I keep Fox with 316 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: two years and then see what happens. 317 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: So last year was year one or was it not? 318 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: We're not counting last count last year he barely played, saying. 319 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: He has to finish this year and next year with 320 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: the this. 321 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Year, give a two year run with this group with 322 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: him and to see how they grow. If they're growing, 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: like if Dylan Harper and Tough Castle, then it's like 324 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: we don't need Darren Fox anymore. 325 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: Now you get more three and d guys. Harrison bar 326 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: is gonna go. 327 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: Like I can right now, you could, I could see that, 328 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: right but you just look, I'm not in a real 329 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: us to win it right now. But then think about 330 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: this right now today, I'm not going no rush to 331 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: win it. But if we get halfway through the season 332 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 5: and this person is like in the top two or three, 333 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, maybe we can win it with this woman. 334 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: Y'am a kid right now? Because he's dynamic. Yes, I 335 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: mean he's something we've never seen. 336 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you still need to have that point guard 337 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: though for the play. 338 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: I understand that. 339 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so look for the playoffs. 340 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: But what kind of experienced Fox got. He's never been 341 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: on a d playoff. 342 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: Run, but he's played against stuff he did in the 343 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 4: first got more experienced than Castle and heard Utch, Yeah 344 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 4: not much, so I six more years like he's got 345 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: he can get to the playoffs. 346 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: What once, maybe twice, I don't know. 347 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: They did the playing as well. They had that he 348 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: was saying, two seed, and then they had the playing situation. 349 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys about the sort. 350 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: Of political angle there because. 351 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: The guy forced his way to San Antonio, which nobody 352 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: it does. They paid them, granted, but like I forced 353 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: my way over there, and then y'all ship the business, bro, 354 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, was. 355 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: Going behind closed doors. The powers that be. 356 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: Aren't gonna they pay it. Sort of, I'll make a 357 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: stink you pay. 358 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: You pay a guy that much money, you don't want 359 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: to just let him go, right They said, you want 360 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: to give you time, But if you don't need. 361 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Him, Danny Green is saying, that's what the money is for. 362 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: You know what the business entails. Bro. 363 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: As soon as you're not at the level, we playing 364 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: the max level, if we don't need you, if we 365 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: got guys that are cheaper playing at the max level, 366 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: we don't need that, we can save the money. 367 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: You know. 368 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: But again he's got he got interested, and I don't 369 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: think I don't think you can try a few Mexicans 370 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: like that. You have to at least wait a year. 371 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: Look good, right now, nothing about if they're playing well 372 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: right now without him. He come back and they stopped 373 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: playing well. 374 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: This pressure, this pressure on, this pressure. 375 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: But super fascinating stuff happening in San Antonio. Will be 376 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: monitoring that super closely, especially because the Green Rangers San Antonio. 377 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: Bro it's an exciting team to watch. Think about your 378 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: top five teams you want to watch for sure. For sure, 379 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 4: it's just a kind of bombies that like he's an a. 380 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: But when you were saying five, five and no, there 381 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: was like a smile crept onto. 382 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: Your making my prediction look better. 383 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 5: I don't. 384 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: Look it's crazy when I say they can make the 385 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: Western cos it's a hot take, but look, I think 386 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: they can make the Western Conras fair all right. 387 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: So we have some NBA Cup games coming tonight. Man, 388 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm an NBA Cup guy just because I think it 389 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: adds an added layer to the regular season where you 390 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: know it's competitive, guys do want to win money. I 391 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: think playing in Vegas is cool too, So I've always 392 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: been a Cup that. I know some people like, oh whatever, 393 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: it's more regular season. I like when the regular season 394 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: has more stakes. 395 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: Not for sure, I got a little a little spice, 396 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: So anything to make it more competitive. 397 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Un for in the first year the NBA Cup, I 398 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: was at the Pacers Bucks Kings and I was sitting 399 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: really close and I could watch Tyrese yelling at everybody 400 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: on the Bucks and Dame is like pissed. But Dame 401 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: is like, you know, he's always stoic, but you could 402 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: tell he was seething, and like, you know, Tyrese makes 403 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: a shotting like that. 404 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is this is fun. 405 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: That's when the smoke started between them. 406 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so super excited for this year's NBA Cup. 407 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 4: We need more of that, bro, We need more like 408 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: we need more smoke. We need to They don't want 409 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: no smoke, but we needed a lot of friendly guys. 410 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: I feel like you had a lot of smoke in 411 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: your days. 412 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be talking. 413 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 3: Like for real, I was. You know, they competed like that. 414 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: Now you know after the like even the different things, 415 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: that's different. Now they shake hands after every game. It 416 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 5: looked like the jersey I never checked hands. I'm going 417 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 5: to my game. I'm going to my locker room just 418 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: before the game. 419 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm warming up, so you don't even I don't you 420 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 4: shake hands? Is after the playoff series is over, got you. 421 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: That's like all that. Okay, jump ball you we're gonna 422 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: see how so many times about the season, little whatever 423 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: you you go, yeah. 424 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: Cool, But then it'll be nice, you know, crazy, it'll 425 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 5: be nice. We'll come out there like all right, god cats, 426 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 5: we'll be in the huddle in the hallway before all right, 427 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 5: we're not we're not shaking at the jump off. 428 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: So that's pre mad let them know. 429 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 5: No, no, no, listen, we would be in the locker 430 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: room like, no shaking hands tonight. So like say, like, 431 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 5: somebody come up do this. I'm gonna just keep my shorts. Yeah, 432 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: looking down jump off, jump I'm looking down in the statement. Bro, 433 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: somebody come on, like what's up. I'm like, we did 434 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 5: get that a lot, shake hand, We did that a lot. 435 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 5: That's like, all right, we ain't playing with you all today. 436 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: But you know, just before we get to the cupcames, 437 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: I think I want to stay on what you're saying, 438 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: because I really enjoyed with the Pacers, had going with 439 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: the Bucks with dam and them with the Pistons, had 440 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: gone with literally everybody where they just insisted on fighting 441 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: every single team in the league. Like I like that 442 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: sort of tension and animosity. I think we do need 443 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: more of it. I think when I was younger and 444 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: I would watch Barkley and then be like, Oh, these 445 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: guys are basically pussies for each other and blah blah blah, 446 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I would be like, Oh, Chuck is old and it 447 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: don't make no sense. Like the Spurs don't beef with people. 448 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: They play great, they're super competitive. But now that I'm 449 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: a little bit older, I'm like, nah. 450 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: Like we need to be to take somebody girl or something. 451 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know. 452 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Philly remains undefeated. Tyrese Maxie is somehow leading the league 453 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: in scoring somehow. 454 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Man. They got a big NBA. 455 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Cup game tonight against their bitter rivals, your Boston Celtics. 456 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that'll be their first. 457 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: L of the season at home Celtics coming off of 458 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: a pretty big win. 459 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 460 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: Uh? 461 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: Do you think that will be Philly start the Cup 462 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: season off? 463 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: I think I think Boston is starting to turn the 464 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 5: turn it around right now. Over the last couple of 465 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: games they playing, they started off slow. They lost to 466 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: Philly in the home opener. 467 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: I was there. 468 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: They lost to the Knicks, and they lost to Detroit. 469 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 5: Then they bounced back versus New Orleans and they beat 470 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 5: a really good Cleveland team. Yes, so I think they're 471 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 5: starting to turn the corner. I think, uh, this will 472 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 5: be they will be up for this game. You know, 473 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 5: Joe Mizzoula don't like losing the Philly. This is a 474 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 5: conference this is a conference rival, ye division rival. Always 475 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: It's always been animosity between Philly and Boston, and I 476 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 5: know they gonna want this one back. 477 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: Who do you think is having a big night? 478 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: I look for Jalen Brown to continue like he's been 479 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: playing well. I look for him, uh to play with 480 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: a chip on the shoulder. He's been leading the charge 481 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 5: over the last few games. Uh. You know, so we're 482 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: gonna have to find a way to stop Maxie, of course, 483 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: but we got the defenders to do that. We can't 484 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 5: let the young guy get off. But we can't let 485 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 5: the rookie. Yeah, come out there. I mean he just gone. 486 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Joe Missoula was grinding tape man the days before this 487 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: game and he's like, we are not gonna let these 488 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: dudes drop thirty a piece on us. 489 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's on the scouting report now. Yeah, you know 490 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Before that game won it was like 491 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: Maxie mb okay, but whoever could guard the rookie? Yeah yeah, 492 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 5: But now he's on the scouting report yea, his name 493 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 5: is highlighted boom okay. Don't let him get off something. 494 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: So we'll be up for it, and I think we'll. 495 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: Get that Jaalen Brown big night. What about you, Danny. 496 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm thinking Peyton Pritchard because he had the last two 497 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 4: shots at end of the game. They kind of get 498 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: they gave that game away on us. 499 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: So they was winning. 500 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: It was there and I know Jalen was upset. He 501 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 4: probably didn't get the last possessions. I know Payton's said 502 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 4: that he missed the last two possessions. I'm expecting him 503 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: to play. But I think they're gonna come out with 504 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: a chip on their shoulder in Philly. I think it's 505 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: gonna be tough if they are playing better basketball. I 506 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: think I think Boston somehow finds a way. But I said, 507 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be tough for them in Philly, 508 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: But I know, I think they just have more motivation 509 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: because they lost that opener. But it's gonna be a 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 4: tough game and it's gonna be a good game. I 511 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: still see Tyreez can probably get in his thirty thirty three, 512 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: thirty four VJ gonna get probably like seventeen. I don't 513 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: know how many minutes Joel is gonna play, and I 514 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: don't I gotta see the schedule because it was a 515 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 4: back to back, he might sit the front end, in 516 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: the back end. 517 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 518 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: We could talking about this game that Joel was like 519 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: the last person yeah. 520 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: Two years ago. 521 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: All Star. 522 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 5: He's on minutes restriction right now though he's not playing 523 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 5: back to back, so. 524 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: We don't know if they have a back to back 525 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: in this this week, you know, but. 526 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm watching Maxie man. He's he's playing with 527 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: a swagger in the confidence and you know, while it 528 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: felt like most of the time he could only get 529 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: off with Joel because they had that beautiful two man 530 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: game that they developed and like that's how. 531 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: He would get going for himself. 532 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: But like like obviously now you just like know like 533 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: cook on the court. So I'll be watching Maxie in 534 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: that game. Another undefeated team seeing an NBA Cup action 535 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: at the Chicago Bulls who played the New York Knicks. 536 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: When you said it, when you said the sentence, I 537 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: don't think you believe it is Chicagod. 538 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: It's wild. The game will be in Chicago. 539 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: The Knicks, Knicks get this one. Man. If they don't, 540 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: it's gonna be. 541 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 5: You can't name three players on Chicago. 542 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: It's tough. 543 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, no, you got heard her, Ken 544 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: Kobe White, Kobe White not playing. It's kind of crazy 545 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: for the to be winning. Bozells is nice though. 546 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Bzillius is a super. 547 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: Bozillis is Bozellis. 548 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 5: I like, you know what he do like that. 549 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: He's the kids. 550 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do know him. He's about six nine, yeah, 551 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 5: six have a young pier he got. He got an 552 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: all around game. I like him. 553 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: Nah, they they because they're young. 554 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 5: They're young. 555 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 3: They're doing it as a group. They're doing together. Giddy's 556 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: is a. 557 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Good Billy Donovan somehow, like he's in his like tenth 558 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: twelfth season. 559 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 3: He's been doing that forever. He did it. 560 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: But okay, see when they had downy figure it out 561 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: how to win games. 562 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: When they have it down here, this one guys, I 563 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: got the Nicks of the Okay, I was waiting. 564 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: They can't lose, you know, hold on, hold on in Chicago. 565 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 5: In Chicago. 566 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: Himself being five Chicago. 567 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to Chicago, Chicago. 568 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Can you know for Chicago? 569 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: You know why because because I don't know them cats, 570 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: But I bet you they playing hard, their young boys. 571 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: The Knicks gonna walk in there like it's sweet. 572 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: They just took a loss though, so they got. 573 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 5: These young boys. They hard to scout. When not on 574 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: the scout, you know what they could do. So you know, 575 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: it's like it's like those games when the superstars sit 576 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 5: out like Milwaukee, and then you're like, damn, yeah, who 577 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 5: the guy? That's what the Chicago team like? All right. 578 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: I just can't see the Knicks like not taking this 579 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: one super seriously coming off a bad loss, and like 580 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: with the expectations coming into this season, I know people 581 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: want to be patient, but like Nick fans don't really 582 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: have a history of patients, a lot of pressure. 583 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: On them for that game. I think the Knicks would 584 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: take that. 585 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: Also, playing the Pelicans will be playing the Clippers looking 586 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: for their first win of the season. 587 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 5: They're still they're still going to be looking. 588 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: But without Zion. 589 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: But bro, how bad the Clippers have been playing. 590 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 4: I think I don't know, they still have a I 591 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: think this is gonna be ugly basketball, but it's gonna 592 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: be a close. 593 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: Game, Danny. 594 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: They had to start the third quarter against the Nuggets. 595 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: It was twenty nine to two. 596 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: That's the Nuggets. 597 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: Though you're not an NBA team, but the Nuggets. 598 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 5: Really, five guys off the street, you get you more 599 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 5: than two with me out there two points. Nobody's going 600 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: on a twenty nine or two runs. Come on with 601 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: five guys. 602 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 3: It's an anomally. We don't see it happen off there. 603 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Murray is still out for the Pelly. He's one of 604 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: their best players. Bradley Bill Bradley Beal still sitting. Will 605 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: be a game time decision for the Clippers. 606 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Clippers should win the game, but I 607 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: still think it's gonna be because second half. Clippers always 608 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: cut that third quarter for some odd reason. It's gonna 609 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: be a ten point It's gonna be a ten point game. 610 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: I love Willie, but. 611 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: You subscribing to the was the theory of NBA coaching. 612 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: It's not looking good. Yeah for the Pelicans. Yeah, it's 613 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 5: all I'm say, not looking good. 614 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: Why want the subject of tonight's games. 615 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into the picks of the night presented by 616 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: prize picks a couple of I think exciting, especially individual 617 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: matchups for these guys tonight. First up, we got DeAndre 618 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: Ayton more or less than fourteen and a half Lakers 619 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: versus Grizz. 620 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: I mean Grizz inside, who got Jay Huff? I'm trying 621 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: to think of who else? Just Jaron Jacksons. He always 622 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: gets a foul trouble. Yeah, he is a very good 623 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: rim protector though, but without zach Adie, I feel like 624 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: he's right at the line. 625 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna surprise y'all, and I'm gonna say more 626 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: than yeah for Aighton. 627 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, with Brin and Luca out, it's heavy. Austin 628 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: Reeves and Aight and Jake Larevia had a night the 629 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: other night. I don't know we're gonna see that again. 630 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: But they need scoring from RUI gave been out, Marcus 631 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: Smart been out like he's got to have, so I 632 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: go with more. I'll go with more because he's got 633 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: to like for them to be in the game. 634 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: He might be at least. 635 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: Favorite playing Likedre I mean, but I just I'm not 636 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 5: sure offensively, Yeah, you know, down. 637 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: He is, but he's gonna play most of the minutes 638 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: because I mean, Jackson gonna. 639 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 5: Get the minutes. But just like you know there, this 640 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 5: is a perimeter based team, you know. And it's not 641 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 5: like he stretches the defense with three point shooting, you know. 642 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: So I'm going less. 643 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: So what I'll say about a and and the way 644 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers are playing right now, it kind of reminds 645 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: me of the Utah team with Rudy and Donovan on there. 646 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: The only person I would ever pass Rudy the ball 647 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: is Mike Conley. He was like literally the only person 648 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: that and for a lot of the same reasons. By 649 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: the way, a lot of dudes are just like bro, 650 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: last time I gave it to you three ft from 651 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: the cup, you messed it up. But it seems like 652 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is convinced. 653 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: That Ayton gets some touches he needs to. 654 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: Believe he needn't to keep the defense honest, Like he 655 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: can't get open looks if he don't drop the ball off, 656 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: he can't get layups. But ye know what I'm saying, 657 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: if Ayton don't get a touch or two to keep 658 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: the defense honest, since. 659 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: Hes gotta build his confidence up. 660 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Next up, we got Tyrese Maxi more or less than 661 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half. Yeah, I mean he's got 662 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: to drop another thirty ball against the Boston Celtics. 663 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: He's going streaking right now. I thought originally he would 664 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: get but some mean someone's telling me he didn't get 665 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: like twenty eight. I feel he's gonna end up getting 666 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: like twenty might still be. 667 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 5: In the game. 668 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Danny's going less. 669 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less than. I'm gonna get less than 670 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: with all. 671 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: Right, so listen, I don't think DJ is gonna go off. 672 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna carry a lot of scoring. Love 673 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: the guy. I had a chance to watch him Game one, 674 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 5: So Tyrese MAXI averaging thirty seven right now, I know 675 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 5: it's my Boston Celtics. I think he's gonna have more. 676 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: He's so hard to stop. I saw this in person. 677 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, this guy's impossible to stop. He got Florida, 678 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 5: his his step back three. I mean, he's so explosive 679 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: to the hall. I didn't transition. You can't stop him. 680 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 5: I'll give him more than that anore. 681 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 4: And he's been very good against the free throw line. 682 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's learning players like that. He can have a 683 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 5: bat shooting night and they go like ten to twelve 684 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: from the line and make like three threes. That's already 685 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: twenty right, you know what I'm saying, Right, he's gonna 686 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: have Now, he's gonna. 687 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: Have a page or two out of Joel and James's book. 688 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: We'll learn how to get to the free throw line. 689 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: So that's what made him like thirty seven. That's the 690 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: reason why he's every thirty. 691 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: He learned from a couple of masters. 692 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: In terms of the foul baiting, I'm gonna go less 693 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: than as well. I just think that's gonna be a 694 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: coaching kind of performance. 695 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: I just I just think Missola's gonna game plan the. 696 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: Way you're gonna trap him a little bit more. 697 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: Not just allow the best player clearly on the team, 698 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: the best point guard in the Eastern Conference. 699 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: Damn there right now, to drop you know, forty on 700 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: your head right now. 701 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: That's what Jayalen Brunson right now. 702 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: He's you know, damn next up, we got Jalen Brown 703 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: more or less than twenty five and a half. 704 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 5: Going more with Jalen Brown because I think he started 705 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 5: to get into an offensive groove. Now you know, he 706 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: had a forty one point game. He's went over twenty five. 707 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: He had a thirty. You know, I think he's starting 708 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 5: to find his groove and understand that. Listen, Jalen, we 709 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 5: need you to score twenty five to thirty a night, 710 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 5: you know, because of the offense that we're losing from 711 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: not having Tatum. We don't have Drew Holliday this year, 712 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 5: we don't have Porzingis. Yeah, we have to carry the 713 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 5: offensive low for what they don't have from a year ago. 714 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: I'm going more. 715 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more as well. 716 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean he's got to have he's got to average 717 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 4: a lot more for them to be in games. Yeah, 718 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: and I think he gets his average, which I think 719 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: is higher than twenty five, but yeah, for them to 720 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: win the game or being games, he's got to average 721 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: like thirty three. 722 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: So I want to. 723 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Ask you, Paul, because in between the KG era and 724 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: the Twin era was some dark days in Boston definitely 725 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: where it was literally it was you that was the 726 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: jailing Browner This year probably even more so, Like what 727 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: was that like in those those years, those intervening years 728 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: where you going to the playoffs all the time than. 729 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Not, and it's just everybody's just looking at you. 730 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of pressure to perform 731 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: each and every night. Everything is on your shoulders, you know. 732 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: You know, if you don't get twenty five or thirty, 733 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: y'all don't have a chance to win. So it was 734 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: just like every single night, you gotta have that mindset, 735 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 5: and you know it's difficult because you got to think 736 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: about it all the teams are designing the defense to 737 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 5: stop you, you know what I mean. So he has 738 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 5: some help, you know, because I know Derek White, he 739 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 5: takes some pressure and Payton Pritcher. You know, that's more 740 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 5: help than I have in Simons, those dark Simons. You know, 741 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 5: those guys can get buckets, you know. So not necessarily 742 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: he has to get thirty. But you know when he's 743 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 5: aggressive like that, it's a good sign for the shit. 744 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: He has to get thirty. 745 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 4: Brof, you don't get thirty, they're gonna get blown like. 746 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: If he don't, he gotta get at least twenty eight. 747 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 4: If they don't get thirty, they're gonna get blown out. 748 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 4: He gets twenty, that's a bad night for him and 749 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 4: a bad night for them. He gets twenty, which is 750 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 4: a good night for most people. 751 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 3: But if he don't get thirty. 752 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I agree, last, but not least, Joel Embiide more or 753 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: less than eighteen and a half points? 754 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 5: Are we going less on that, minister restrictions, I'm saying 755 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 5: he might. 756 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 4: Not mean he had twenty three to the night twenty 757 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: two minutes. So he's capable because he's smart noise to 758 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: get to the free throw line. But I'm gonna go 759 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 4: less as well. I'm gonna go less. But the mint restriction, 760 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 4: he's not getting a flow rhythm, and I think he's 761 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: also starting to take more and more of a back 762 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 4: seat like he is now more. 763 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: Like Paul talked about that, he's. 764 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: In pass like he's not. He's looking to tire like 765 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: our tires, your team j like Quinn Grimes. He's more 766 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 4: in that mode where it's taken away from him in 767 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 4: the minute restriction. You can't do that and try to 768 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 4: still get twenty like he's good that. 769 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, he's been the guy. 770 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: They're undefeated. You can't argue with the results at. 771 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 5: A certain point, but he's been the guy, and how 772 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 5: far has he taken them? 773 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: Right? 774 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 5: Like now the dynamic has to change and see, hey, 775 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 5: how let's see where the mass he can take us? Yeah, 776 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 5: and so. 777 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm going less than also, yeah, well less than eighteen. 778 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 5: Damn, this dude average thirty three a year ago. Yeah, 779 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: we said he's gonna get less. 780 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: Than twenty twenty five minutes, and so he got ya anybody, or. 781 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: He went down during the break or whatever it was. Yeah, 782 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: he was averaging like thirty five. 783 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying to that. 784 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: All right, There's two teams out East who came into 785 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: the season with major expectations, conference finals level expectations and 786 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: have not shot out the gate. That's the Orlando Magic, 787 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: who were two and four as of our recording, in 788 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: the Calves. 789 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 2: Who are three and two. 790 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: But again, Calves are basically most people's favorite to go 791 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: to the finals, most people outside of the city of 792 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: New York. 793 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 794 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: And Orlando was expected to be right there, neck neck 795 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: with the Calves in that pursuit of getting to the 796 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. 797 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: Should they be worried one to ten? What's your worry metering? 798 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 5: My worried meter for Orlando is it's probably like an eight, 799 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 5: because listen, I thought I looked at Orlando as like 800 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: gonna be one of the top three teams. Yeah, I 801 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 5: watched them. They don't look nothing like a top three team. 802 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 5: Like they still struggle offensively, you know, they still can't shoot. 803 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 5: And I need Pablo Paolo ben Carro to take his 804 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 5: game to MVP level. He has a type of talent. 805 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 5: He hasn't shown me that every night fans told me 806 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: he was the next Bron I mean he got that 807 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 5: kind of ability. No, seriously, I like this kid a 808 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 5: lot like I expected the young team like Orlando come 809 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 5: out like blazing, like they're a young team, you want 810 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: to get off to a quick start and so like. 811 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 5: And then I'm watching, I'm like it don't I don't, 812 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, but. 813 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: I'm out of nine. I'm very worried about him. 814 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: You said, fine, both these teams, I said, Eastern Conference Finals. 815 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 4: I don't think finals because Cleveland, to me, is always 816 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 4: gonna be low bro to some of those, like whether 817 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 4: it's New York or Boston. I feel like that anytime 818 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 4: they match up with one of those teams of Philly 819 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, they're gonna end up losing for some 820 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 4: odd reason and they just can't stay healthy. So I'm 821 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: less worried about Cleveland because they don't have the full 822 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: package right now. Orlando, there's no like you got. I 823 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: think they have everybody there. I don't think anybody is out. 824 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: That's a major piece for them. Wagner is uh. 825 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: But he's like. 826 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 5: Energy off the bench. 827 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's he's sets a certain time. 828 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: They have what they need, they should be playing better. 829 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 4: So I'm out of nine with Orlando, and right now 830 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 4: I see them if this I said it's early, but 831 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: the way they're trending, they're looking like playing, which is crazy. 832 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: They're spposed to be at top I can't believe will 833 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: be the top four. 834 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: Seeded two have home court advantage and right now, again 835 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: it's early, but they're looking like the play it like 836 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: the outside of the six. 837 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 3: I want to. 838 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Ask you guys, as a fan and somebody who consumes 839 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: media my whole life watching the NBA. You know, I 840 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: watched the Orlando team and they made their They made their. 841 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: Money on defense for two three years. 842 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: They established an identity one of the few teams in 843 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: the last few years where it's like we punch people 844 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: in the face, we're super physical. We're top three, top 845 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: five defense every year. They come out the gate this 846 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: year with the same dudes minus KCP, which like come on, 847 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: KCP is not freaking Bill Russell, and they do like 848 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: what is that? Like, what do you think that is? 849 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: Is that tuning out the coach? You know, has he 850 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: lost the locker room? 851 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: Like? 852 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: What is that? Again? I'm not getting on my fire. 853 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: To the coach horse, I'm just asking, like, as guys 854 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: that were in the league in locker rooms, like, what 855 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: is that inconsistency disconnect? 856 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 5: Well, I think when you lose certain guys that you 857 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 5: built the culture with a defensive culture with, then when 858 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 5: that's not there, like you said, KCP, call Anthony. You know, 859 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 5: these guys were a defensive presence for them and even 860 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 5: not even having Wagner for them, and it takes away 861 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 5: a little bit because has left, right, Yes, yeah, so 862 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 5: like that that plays a big part because then in 863 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 5: saying KCP, he's a champion that people in the locker 864 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 5: room respect. Yeah. Yeah, So if they're getting off to 865 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 5: a slow start, he could be the guy that could 866 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: be the voice. So who is that guy now? For Orlando? 867 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: Is it dang Like he's new to the team, so 868 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 5: he's still trying to feel guys out. I don't know, 869 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 5: you know how much you know how loud his voice 870 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 5: is in the locker room. Yet when you got a 871 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 5: champion in a locker room, when he speaks, everybody listens, 872 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: So they're missing. 873 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: That for sure. They're definitely missing that. 874 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 4: That also, I mean, I don't know what the contract 875 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: situation looks like for them. With the young guys, some 876 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 4: of them might have e paid, That's what I'm thinking. 877 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: But the offense, like, you know, I need to get 878 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: the buckets because I need to get my extension. I 879 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: need to get paid. I don't know who it is 880 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: or what it is. I think everybody up over there 881 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: is paid, but maybe they're just thinking, like you know, 882 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 4: they obviously lost themselves a little bit and probably just 883 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 4: focus on the wrong things and need to get back 884 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 4: to it. And that's on the coaching staff to nip 885 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 4: it in the butt and like we got to get 886 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 4: back to who we are identity. I know offense is 887 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 4: not looking good around it, but our defense can always 888 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 4: be consistent every night. 889 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you always hear the phrase culture, right, and 890 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: you know every team is trying to. 891 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 2: Build a culture. What's a culture? It's like it's like 892 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: the accepted behaviors. 893 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: In our situation, like this is how you allowed to 894 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: carry yourself act. This is what we do, this is 895 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: how we move here. I just wonder who is setting 896 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: that culture. 897 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't think we know. I 898 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 3: think it's show. 899 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: Point, like who is that? Like? 900 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: Sometimes it is a veteran guy, championship guy, a trusted guy. 901 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just you know, you got Riley and Spoe 902 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: who've been there forever, so that heat have a culture. 903 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: I know it's a cliche, but it's true. I wonder 904 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: who it is that's set in that culture. 905 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 5: I think he's the leader. Yeah, like the leader. We 906 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 5: don't know. 907 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: I should fifty million, both should be the leaders. 908 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 4: But you do have Tyas Jones come off like he's 909 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: he has some years in and he's a smart point 910 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 4: guard set the table. You got all too many young guys, 911 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 4: and I think it's showing. That's that's why they don't. 912 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 4: They're not as locked in defensively because they're missing that. 913 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, it's different, like different teams 914 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: is different. 915 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: Like obviously okay see is its own thing. 916 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, those guys seems to galvanized around 917 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: Shay and they follow his. 918 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: Lead like other guys. They got Carus over there. 919 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got some they got hard and signs a 920 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 4: little bit like some guys are a little bit older, but 921 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 4: not super old, but a couple of guys that are 922 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: in the middle that. 923 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: They seem to be focused right for sure, they play hard, 924 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: tough defense every single night despite the opponent. You would 925 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: think Orlando, with the athleticism, the physicality they've shown in 926 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 1: the past, they could do the same. But I guess 927 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: it's not early. We're not gonna jump out the window. 928 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: But we're still concerning Cleveland. I've heard some rumblings. 929 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so you are concerned. 930 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned. I've heard some little bird Birdies. 931 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: Just saying there might be a Kenny situation. Gods, that's 932 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: what I've heard. And you know that, Like I have 933 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for what he's done in the 934 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: league with his reputation, is that he might be the 935 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of guy that wears on people after a while, 936 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: little Birdies is saying that don't shoot. 937 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 3: The message. 938 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 4: Than what has happened in the past. 939 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 5: Is for sure. 940 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: I like, I don't see how you can be. 941 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 3: Than when they had beforehand. 942 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: But I'm so I'm at a six and a half 943 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: right now, six and a half. 944 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty. 945 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're supposed to be a dominant. 946 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 4: Again, they're not fully healthy. So yeah, all right. 947 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: So next thing I wanted to throw at you guys, NBC, NBA, 948 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: L NBC is back. My inner child shooting socks into 949 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: the clothes hangar. Yeah, it's crazy, the nostalgia from NBC 950 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: being back. But they're doing these these little vignettes with 951 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and Mike Turrico, and Mike got in his 952 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: two cents about you know, a hot topic which remains 953 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: so load management, which another thing. Thanks for nothing Popovich 954 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: and the Spurs, y'all invented that ship and now we're 955 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: all dealing with the repercussions of it. But Mike said, quote, 956 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be needed. I never wanted to miss a game. 957 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 1: I want to impress that guy way up on top 958 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: who worked to buy the ticket. He's probably yelling at me, 959 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: calling me names, so I want to shut him up. 960 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: Mike's just saying, you got to perform. That's what you 961 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: get paid to do, to show up and hoop Danny. 962 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you guys did this to the league, bro. No, not, 963 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 2: you guys ruled with this. 964 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 4: The way pop and San Antonio did it very differently 965 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 4: than how it transition to people. So like Kawhi left 966 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 4: and then it became load management. When we got to Toronto, 967 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 4: was like he sat out games because they said, like 968 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 4: in San Antonio, we just he didn't have to play anybody. 969 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 4: They were so we were so deep, he didn't have 970 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 4: to play us more than twenty five minutes a game. 971 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 4: Everybody played twenty twenty five and then when we would 972 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: win enough, then it was like all right to the 973 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 4: end of the season. But we played every game like 974 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 4: we played. 975 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 3: Most of the games. There was multiple seasons. 976 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 4: I played seventy five plus sure, and I didn't sit 977 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 4: out unless I was hurt. Reason being, we have people 978 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 4: behind us that was ready to take our job. You 979 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm not sitting games. I'm not 980 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 4: being hurt for too long because I'm not trying to 981 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 4: get a wait my minutes to anybody. Now, some superstars 982 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 4: can get away with a little bit, but even they 983 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: still knew, like certain guys are behind me that are 984 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 4: very What I'm talking. 985 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,479 Speaker 1: About is those like nationally televised games where he. 986 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 3: Didn't want to twice. He didn't want to twice. 987 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: Against the heat and people just like what are we doing? 988 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: But you're saying it wasn't as deep as it goes. 989 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 3: It wasn't as bad as it was as it is. Now, 990 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 3: where are you at with log Now? 991 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: It's like certain guys are just not playing back to back, 992 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 4: so you know, he just not he's sittinglows. 993 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 3: He sat us. We have like a seven and ten nights, 994 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 3: seven games and ten nights, and. 995 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 4: It's like, all right, these guys are thirty five, like Manu, 996 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 4: Timmy and Tony are old. The older I wouldn't say old, 997 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 4: there's older. He's like, yo, if I play them, they're 998 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 4: gonna get injured. 999 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: Saying if you're not like thirty five thirty six, what 1000 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: do you load managing? 1001 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 4: No, it's not necessary. So again, I mean, I'm all 1002 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 4: for guys staying healthy and not have injuries. So having 1003 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 4: a player I got thirty five minutes a night every 1004 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 4: night is a lot, so he might need it. 1005 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 5: But the best athletes on them, Yeah, and a good 1006 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 5: professional play eighty games what ten eleven times? So are 1007 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 5: you telling me whether athletes better then or now? Were 1008 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 5: they more durable then? 1009 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 2: Are now way more training? 1010 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: More durable then? 1011 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 4: I mean they played in the converses back then with 1012 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: the bad technology NBA game, they didn't have any of 1013 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 4: that technology back then, and they you. 1014 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 5: Know, low management should be saved for just certain guys. 1015 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 5: I believe you know what I'm saying. It's not certain. 1016 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 5: It's not It shouldn't be for somebody who, oh, we 1017 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 5: got three games in four nights, so you know I'm 1018 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 5: gonna play these two and miss this one like it 1019 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 5: shouldn't know. It's certain guys that you can say in 1020 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 5: the league right now, like, Okay, I get it, and 1021 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 5: b several injuries. I'm not mad at that. Yeah Lebron, Yeah, 1022 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 5: forty three years old, come on, like, you know, I 1023 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 5: get But not a guy who plays and is healthy 1024 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 5: and he looks at the schedule and say, I'm gonna 1025 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 5: be too tired for this last game on the road trip, Like, 1026 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 5: come on, man, take some pride. You put on this 1027 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 5: jersey where were pride? You'll all make good money. You 1028 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 5: know you deserve to give it to you, not only 1029 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 5: for your team but for the fans. So like for 1030 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 5: certain people, I get it, But it's only certain guys 1031 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 5: and it's not that many of them, Like I can't 1032 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 5: even think of. 1033 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 3: There's probably ten guys in total. 1034 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 5: Maybe say I'm okay with that. 1035 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 4: Anybody in their twenties for sure, damn sure not have 1036 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 4: loango management. And if you're under thirty five, like now, 1037 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 4: if you're a super, if you're a star over thirty 1038 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 4: and you're playing a lot, I said Steph Curry, KD. Brown, Joel, 1039 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 4: certain guys now again, only the only way a twenty 1040 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 4: year old. Let's say Tyre's Max, he's playing twenty straight 1041 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 4: games and he's playing forty eight minute in its double 1042 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 4: overtime game. 1043 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 2: Keep going, but keep. 1044 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 5: Going, you're rolling, you're rolling. 1045 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 4: Come on, now, that's a formula as you see it today. 1046 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: It's a formula. Something happened. So it's like, yo, I 1047 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 4: need to give this kid because I. 1048 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 3: Don't want to hurt. You can't prevent injury, especially if 1049 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: you definitely can't. 1050 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 5: Know you can't. It's not scientifically proven. 1051 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: It came out and said, it's not like the science 1052 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 2: has been. 1053 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 5: Every day rest, I could get rested to come out 1054 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 5: the next day injury. 1055 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 3: I'm not believing you can definitely prevent. 1056 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 2: Adam said that you and they've been carry your. 1057 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 4: Body and rest and recovery is definitely helping you prevent injury. 1058 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 3: So if you're capable, if you're. 1059 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 5: Up and. 1060 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 4: Peel's like ten and two, sure or you know, fifteen 1061 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 4: and three. 1062 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: They have a lot of games. All right, we can 1063 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 3: rest hurt. 1064 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 2: All right. 1065 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. This is basketball, right, So 1066 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 5: what's the most common injury in basketball? 1067 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 3: Spring or so? 1068 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 5: My rest depends on if I'm a sprain my ankle, 1069 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 5: I'm thinking that's just jumping up in the air coming 1070 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 5: down on Sure, but you. 1071 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: Got to fatigue is more hamstring capstring. 1072 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 5: But don't we don't get We don't get pulled ham 1073 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 5: strings in the NBA, not as much. No torn ham strings. 1074 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 5: I don't never hear that about that injury. 1075 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 4: No, we get ham string strains sometimes. 1076 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 5: Like I haven't played with one player ever and my 1077 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 5: whole career that had a hamstring string. 1078 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 3: That's I've had one had one last year that's playing 1079 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: with one player. 1080 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 5: That had was out because of a hamstring. I can't remembering. 1081 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 5: Fox is out right now. It's the ankle. I mean 1082 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 5: we've had. 1083 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: Achilles, and Edwards is out right now with a handy. 1084 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's achilles. It's the major ones, a broken bone. 1085 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: To me, it's about that's what y'all get paid. You 1086 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: get paid to. 1087 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: Hoop if you're if you're part of the game. I'm sorry, Like, 1088 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: we can't just be like putting the training wheels. 1089 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: On these guys. Like and I understand too. 1090 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: At a certain point, it's kind of unfair of the 1091 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: guys because it is coming from up top, and it's 1092 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: like management is there, like data analytics people, sports science 1093 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: people that they got in the front office. It's like, 1094 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: look like we're monitoring these guys, and you know, his 1095 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: heart rate was there some. 1096 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 2: Black we might play. I get that, but like. 1097 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 5: That was a way to create more jobs in the NBA. 1098 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 2: And. 1099 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 4: How we perform, I get that against your contract we 1100 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 4: got they. 1101 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: Gotta miss me with that. 1102 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: So scoring is way up right now in the league, 1103 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: and free throws, not surprisingly, are a big sort of causing. 1104 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: The leading indicator of higher scoring is bet you the 1105 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: free throws up. Once you see somebody scoring really efficient efficiently, 1106 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: they're probably getting to the line a lot and we're 1107 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: seeing some of the best offense. 1108 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: Of course, we. 1109 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: Say this every year as the season starts that we've 1110 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: ever seen in the NBA, twenty seven teams are committing 1111 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: more fouls than the league leader last year. 1112 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's like ninety yeah, so the last year 1113 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 4: in the bottom it would be twenty eight. 1114 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,959 Speaker 1: This year, damn, that's insane. Ten teams are averaging thirty 1115 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: free throws a game. 1116 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 5: I'll tell you why. 1117 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 2: Last year zero teams did well. 1118 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 5: They they You gotta understand this. Every year, the reference 1119 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 5: we have a referees meeting. Yeah, the refs will come 1120 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 5: into your training camp and have an emphasis on certain 1121 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 5: type of things, We're not gonna give up this year. 1122 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 5: And they do it every year. So at the beginning 1123 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 5: of the year they always calling it type. Every single 1124 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 5: year they call it type. So it must have been 1125 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 5: a new emphasis on, like all right, guys, they're gonna 1126 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 5: come in and say we're not gonna allow this. And 1127 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 5: and I think that's my theory on why there's more 1128 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,800 Speaker 5: foules called this early and more teams come in making 1129 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 5: free throws, more free throws than they have before, so 1130 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 5: I know, and it's early too, so it's a small 1131 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 5: sample size. Sure, So they set the tone at the 1132 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 5: beginning of the year, and then you know, they'll they'll 1133 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 5: give you some rope as the season go along, because 1134 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 5: we don't want to see teams shooting thirty plus free throws, 1135 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 5: we want the action to keep coming. 1136 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 4: I don't think it's fully on the referees. I think 1137 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 4: it's a defensive discipline issue. Wow, I think it's a 1138 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 4: fifty to fifty I don't know if y'all seen the 1139 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 4: Sacramento versus Lakers game when he shot twenty two free throws, 1140 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 4: but he got them so many times with the same thing, 1141 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 4: fake jump. And I'm a defensive guy, so like, I 1142 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,240 Speaker 4: want to see less free throws. I want to seeless foules. 1143 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 3: You know. 1144 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 4: I don't like when guys manipulate the game and jump 1145 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 4: sideways or jump backwards. But if a guy's gonna get 1146 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 4: your hand in the cookie jarvy time, or you're gonna 1147 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 4: jump for every pumpine, I think it's a I think 1148 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 4: it's a combination of both. I think the referees are 1149 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 4: calling it tight and a lack of discipline. I just 1150 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 4: don't want it to get to the point where we're 1151 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 4: seeing a bunch of free throws all the time and 1152 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 4: viewership goes down. 1153 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 3: I think that was one of the. 1154 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 4: Reasons why last year people are tied of seeing at 1155 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 4: the free throw or somebody at the free throw line, 1156 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 4: stop in play, slowing. 1157 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 3: The game down, reviews. 1158 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't want to see three minute five 1159 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 4: minute reviews and replay like let the game. And that's 1160 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,720 Speaker 4: one thing I thought that could be a possible change 1161 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 4: we take from the G League. You know that one 1162 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 4: for two up until last two minutes of the game 1163 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 4: with the free throws is quick, so you're going to 1164 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 4: say there for two. But again, I think it's a 1165 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 4: combination of this, like the lack of discipline on defense, 1166 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 4: and the referee is also calling it tight. 1167 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: But I got a little I'll put my conspiracy had 1168 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: on real quick. I think this is related to the 1169 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: load management thing. 1170 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: I think it's early in the season. 1171 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: Eventually Adam is going to make the call like bro 1172 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: let him play a little bit more. But you probably 1173 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: just don't want an extremely physical product for eighty two 1174 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: games like that might lead to more. 1175 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: They probably think it leads to me, I want to 1176 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 2: see basket or all of that. 1177 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 3: I want to see you get hit. Yeah, for sure, 1178 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 3: it's a physical game, but. 1179 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that's kind of what's happening there. 1180 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,880 Speaker 1: Just like we don't need we don't need to we 1181 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: can call it tight early on. We don't need to 1182 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,959 Speaker 1: ultra physicality all season. 1183 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, that's why they do the flagrant fouls for everything, 1184 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 4: Like they review every foul now for to see if 1185 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 4: it's bro just call it play. 1186 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: Bro five minute reviews and go to commercial to come back. 1187 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: The announcers don't even know how to kill time. 1188 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 2: It's it's terrible. 1189 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to get this is to just move on 1190 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: to something different from this. Uh again, also kind of 1191 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: related to physicality with the game, Miles Turner says, it's 1192 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: former Indiana Pacers teammate Tyree's Halliburton. 1193 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 2: Notorious ship talker in the NBA. 1194 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: But this is what Miles Turner had to say about 1195 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: Halliburton ship talking quote. Halliburton knows he's protected, he has 1196 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: back up on the court, but he wouldn't talk that 1197 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: same ship. 1198 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 2: In the middle of the street. 1199 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy. 1200 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 6: Damn you just three months ago you just to drop 1201 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 6: this flag. Dropped this flag. 1202 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 4: We don't know how you said it. It could have 1203 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 4: been in a playful manner. 1204 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't give a damn bro. We was just in 1205 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: the finals four months ago. Why are you racked dragging 1206 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: me through the money. But it's all good because we're 1207 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: gonna see you, so it's all good. That's why I 1208 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: like this because it's you and our conference, like we're 1209 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,919 Speaker 1: gonna see you, so so good. 1210 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: But he's out. 1211 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: Smoke between India and Milwaukee. 1212 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 4: But I think the topic is more speaking of who 1213 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 4: in the NBA today is willing to stand on business 1214 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,720 Speaker 4: in the streets. 1215 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: For me, Beef stew is number one on the list 1216 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: because to me, because like the level of psycho you 1217 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: gotta be to be willing to kill Lebron James, like 1218 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: you really not. 1219 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 3: He was really excited he's in. 1220 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 2: He's a net like bro. Like we talked about Lebron 1221 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 2: James for sure. He was like, I'll kill this man 1222 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 2: in broad daylight. 1223 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 5: Damn. 1224 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of who's still left in the league. 1225 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 3: That's that's about it. 1226 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 4: You know, like Jimmy is still there, Draymond is still 1227 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 4: in there, James Johnson not. 1228 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 5: There no more, Dre is standing on business. 1229 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking of like who. 1230 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: Who else your kitchen in the street fight? You got 1231 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 2: guys brothers, Like he's been getting beat up his whole life. 1232 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 4: The Morris Twins ain't around no more. I'm trying to think, like, well, 1233 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 4: still around. That's like going through the team standing on business, 1234 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 4: John stand on business around. 1235 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: Might be on. 1236 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 2: That other type of time. 1237 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 5: You said the street, We did say the street. 1238 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: The people that come to mind, like I think low key. 1239 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: I think Josh Hart will fight anybody. 1240 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 4: Maybe so he's a tough kid. You gotta go with 1241 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 4: some of the guys that you think are missing marbles. 1242 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of, like who might not be 1243 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 4: all like, might not be all there? 1244 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 3: That's a little that's. 1245 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: A crazy to like, who's seven thirty? 1246 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is think of the defensive, like I said, Pat. 1247 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 5: But likes Westbrook is. 1248 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 3: Definitely rustling business. 1249 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna fight. Uh, Debo is gonna fight. 1250 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna fight. 1251 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: But it's really not a lot of these guys, man, 1252 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: I just assume. 1253 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 4: That the Eastern Jimmy and Jimmy. You gotta think of, 1254 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 4: like the villains. Who else is the villain out there? 1255 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram Ingram He's ready. 1256 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 4: Now the Toronto team, I think they all said. I 1257 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 4: think Scotty Barnes. 1258 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: Scottis is on Goro smokes trying to smoke. 1259 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think who else, you know, the Thompson Twins, 1260 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 4: they you know, said. 1261 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, one of them trying to go out 1262 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 3: of here. 1263 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 5: Like I said that, they're definitely in the smoke shop. 1264 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely definitely copping a lot of co's. 1265 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 3: A couple of WANs out there we got. 1266 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: But it's not the Oakley's and the mazing the Davis 1267 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: boys like. 1268 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 5: No more forcers, no last enforcer. 1269 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: Literally, but according to Miles Turner, he's in the forcer. 1270 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 5: He wore he was for alas a podcasts and Twitter beef. 1271 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 1272 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you knows there's not enough aspect and going on 1273 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: anymore to get the Gilbert areenas you know type of 1274 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: fights going. These guys make too much money to aspect, 1275 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: so not enough fights. 1276 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: All right, guys. 1277 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: We wanted to end off the show because we got 1278 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: into it just a little bit last episode about who 1279 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: we thought was some of the best. 1280 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 3: Top five this is gonna be crazy. 1281 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 2: I wanted this to be even more difficult the top 1282 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: three players. 1283 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 5: It is gonna be difficult in the league right now 1284 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 5: because just just to get a little spicy, who the 1285 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 5: three the three best NBA players right now? The three 1286 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 5: best NBA players right now, no debate, joke is just 1287 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 5: in there. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Winbin Yama. He's 1288 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 5: already in the top three, already in the top three. 1289 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 5: I don't care what nobody says. Nobody can tell me nothing, 1290 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 5: because yes, he's one of the top three players in 1291 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 5: the world right now today his third year. And then 1292 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go, Man, this is a tough one right here, Oh, 1293 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 5: the number three, because damn, I gotta give it to 1294 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 5: Shay because he's just coming off an MVP of the 1295 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 5: of the MVP of the league. I mean, that's too much. 1296 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm leaving certain guys out, but I. 1297 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 4: Can't how crazy it is to leave one of these 1298 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 4: guys out when you say it, because Giannis right now 1299 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 4: is in there for me. 1300 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's dominating. 1301 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 4: He's double he's double one, be in Shay's buckets at 1302 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 4: the rim, Dawnson layups. He's got fifty today, twenty five. 1303 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 4: I think he's he's playing the m v P cowboy. 1304 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 4: But who do you leave out? Like Wemby's the offensive 1305 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 4: and defensive player, like a defense Player of the Year, 1306 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 4: and he's scoring thirty, So who who's so like? 1307 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 3: Am I leaving? 1308 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 4: If I put s g a Wemby and oh he's 1309 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 4: leading the league in triple doubles to start the season. 1310 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 5: This guys, oh, that's no Luca donk. 1311 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 4: That's another guy with leaving it. But Luca's out right now. 1312 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 4: But again we so realistically s G A. Yokic for sure, 1313 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 4: and it's between Wemby and Yannis and it's like, but 1314 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 4: I want both of them in the top, Like, so 1315 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 4: I leave a s G. 1316 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 5: A is I'm never leaving out the m v P. 1317 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 5: I'm never leaving out the m v P. 1318 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Ever, I'm gonna go out of your three best players 1319 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 2: in the NBA. 1320 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 3: Crazy thing. 1321 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 4: I picked him to get MVP this year too. It's 1322 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 4: to start the season right now, I'm gonna go s 1323 01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: G A, Wemby and Giannis. That may change because right 1324 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 4: now still get triple doubles, but his numbers are down 1325 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 4: right now from last year. 1326 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna get off my long type of dude. 1327 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 1: So my top three is is Shay it's joker of course, 1328 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: of course, and Wemby's not. He's joy when you averaging 1329 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: like pay your dues. 1330 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 3: He's averaging thirty. 1331 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 2: He's killing team, he's killing who did you start? 1332 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 5: So unanimous. 1333 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shaye Joker. 1334 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 4: Because of what he's doing last and the six and 1335 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 4: oh and he's. 1336 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 3: Hash had Sha. 1337 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 5: You didn't have Joker. 1338 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 4: I have had Wemby and Giannis because I had them 1339 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 4: on both stated playing better defense. 1340 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 3: Didn't I said, just to start the season right now. 1341 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 5: So the only unanimous one out of all three of 1342 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 5: us is Shay and Wemby. Okays, the only unanimous. 1343 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 1: This is gonna become a theme like I always hate 1344 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: on young guys, like they got to prove it. 1345 01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 4: First again, not my top ten. I had Wemby a 1346 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 4: little bit further down like the list. I didn't think 1347 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,959 Speaker 4: he took six months off. I didn't think he started 1348 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 4: off this week. 1349 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 2: It's truly remarkable. 1350 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: And I had Cad higher. I had Polo higher, like 1351 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: I thought they would come out and be better. Not 1352 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 4: but they were my top ten. 1353 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 2: But I had after the sort of the time off. 1354 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 4: Cad was damned the m v P, like in the 1355 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 4: voting at one point last year Detroit was not in 1356 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: the playoffs. The report and then being the top like 1357 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 4: six with the six seeds last year got you damn 1358 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 4: like Cad was doing. 1359 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: Any don't think the five time m v P Yo, 1360 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Kitsches is one of the best guys. 1361 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 4: I just said right now to start the season. His numbers, 1362 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 4: he's like, he's a little lower, and again you go 1363 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 4: offense defense Wenby and Gianni took. Giannice has picked it 1364 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 4: up defensively like he's he did. He beat the nixt 1365 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 4: damn near by himself though the night and Ryan Rollins. 1366 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 2: Keep itally the lists, y'all change over. 1367 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 3: There the start, it's going to change. 1368 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 4: This is just the ladder to start the season. Power 1369 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 4: ranking shifts throughout the year. 1370 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 2: Okay, well, shoot man, that's our show for today. 1371 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Fellas, please make sure you guys subscribe, like the video, 1372 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: rate the video wherever platform you're on, comment on the video, 1373 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: share the video, Tell everybody you know to be watching. 1374 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 1: No fouls given with us Man shot. The sponsors, the 1375 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: projects they're they're helping us and killing it for us. 1376 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 4: And we will see you guys next time Halloween or 1377 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 4: Happy Halloween. 1378 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 6: This has been a Playmaker production.