1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Morenita, a deep dive into the Latin X experience. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: With Morenita, we want to create a community and a 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: shared space with you while sharing knowledge and inspiration. This 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: show is about celebrating our culture with guests who exemplify 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the best of us. I'm Darylene Gastillo, Ethane Veeople. We 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: hand it Today we have a very special guest that 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: is talking about something very important. Jenna say This joins 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: us and gives us the insight of her life in 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: the mental health world. I know it's something that's not 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: really discussed our community, but Jen is a licensed therapist 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: in the l A area, and she gives us an 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: insight on how this field became her passion and how 13 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: this passion has evolved. Not only does she give us 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: her personal experiences, but she discusses how the world of 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: mental health has evolved through this new world that we 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: are living in today. Within this pandemic, which I think 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: for all of us, is an important view to listen into. 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Jen gets vulnerable and shares that through a rocky portion 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: of her life, she turned to mental health herself. She 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: shares with us the importance of being open to mental 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: health and This really spoke to me because in my 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: household growing up, mental health wasn't always a huge focus 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: until my mother opened herself to it. I remember my 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: parents were separating and getting a divorce, and my mother 25 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: realized that I needed someone to talk to, and at 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the age of thirteen, I myself had a therapist. Having 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a therapist at that young age really helped me through 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: this big life event. My mother was finding herself through 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: all of this in her own personal ways, but her 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: openness to a therapist truly helped shape who I am 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: now and how I deal with my problems. I'm a 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: big believer to this day on seeing a therapist. Now, 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I know it's not an easy task to find a therapist. 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: One thing I noticed in my adult years is the 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: difficulty of finding the right therapist. I've compared this to 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: dating many times. I have tried endlessly to look for 37 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: an after Latino therapists and I cannot find one. I 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: find it extremely rare to find someone who shares a 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: similar background. I want someone whom I can speak to 40 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: and connect with on a deeper level, someone who can 41 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: understand me and my experiences. In speaking with Jen about 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: the lack of Latino therapists. She fully agrees and shares 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: some of this frustration. She goes into how this has 44 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: affected her focus and dedication to community work. Jen shares 45 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: with us her challenges that she's faced and still faces 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: being one of the few Latino therapists in her department, 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: and how that truly affects Latino communities. She gets extremely 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: deep with us on why her community work is so 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: important and necessary. There's such a strong stigma that mental 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: health comes with that makes it a very vulnerable topic 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: for some. However, Jen has been seeing some changes, but 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: are the changes enough? Take a listen to find out, 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: saying Beetle, Hello Jen, and welcome to mo Anita. We 54 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: are so happy to finally have you here. I know 55 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: we've been trying and trying. We did it, we made it. 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: We're just so excited to have you here to talk 57 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: about something that's really important, really really important, I think, 58 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: and something that we don't speak enough about in our community. 59 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you have dedicated your life um to mental 60 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: health and to obviously to fitness and to wellness. Can 61 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: you like give our listeners like the low down of 62 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: like what that life is for you and what you're 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: giving to the community. Yeah, so just a little bit 64 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I guess about me for you know you and for 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the listeners. Um. I have my master's a Marriage and 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Family be from USC. UM. I got my license in 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: December of this past year. So I've been working as 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: a license therapist for about five six months, but in 69 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the field of mental health for about five six years. 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: I want to say. Um. It started in college. I 71 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: was studying to be a pediatrician and felt like the 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: biology and chemistry classes weren't making me excited, um the 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: way I saw other just peers just so excited to 74 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: go to class. So I started pursuing psychology, loved it, um, 75 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: and then I started just working in different areas within 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: that field. Um. I started working with children with autism 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: and then started working in an inpatient psychiatric hospital before 78 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: getting my masters. So um, I've been around different types 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: of experiences and then yeah, fitness also right after college. 80 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I I love working out. I grew up an athlete, 81 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: so as soon as sports stopped for me, I needed 82 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a different an outlet to be active, and I ended 83 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: up getting approached by the manager at a gym that 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: I was at and was asked, Hey, are you a 85 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: trainer do you want to be one? And that's kind 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: of where it started. So that was also about five 87 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: six years ago, maybe even more now. But yeah, so 88 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: I've just that's kind of like about me UM and yeah, 89 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: but I'm so curious for you, like is there something 90 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: in your life, like from your home that like kind 91 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: of got you involved in this as well, because we 92 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: don't really see a lot of that like in some 93 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: lapin Um homes as well, like mental health, and like, 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just so curious how the path even 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: came up for you. Is it something in your family 96 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: that was like reinforced or was it like you're going 97 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: to be a doctor like that kind of energy? What 98 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: was like that energy about for you growing up? Yeah, 99 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: so I I feel like my parents have definitely gotten 100 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: used to the fact that I'm a therapist now. Like 101 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: you said, I think mental health just isn't necessarily discussed 102 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: in our community. I think it's just not there's such 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: a strong stigma around it um in my home and 104 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: in our community as well, but I think it's becoming 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: more accepted. So I think for me, what kind of 106 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: made me change from like wanting to be a pedia 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: treasure into actually doing mental health and being like being 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: a therapist. Um. I I remember in high school someone's 109 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: a teacher's wife came in and she was a psycho psychiatrist, 110 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: and I just remember being so fascinated by what she 111 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: was talking about, UM, and that just always sat in 112 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: the back of my mind. And so I think for me, 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean they joked that like therapists are the most 114 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: like messed up ones, and that's like why why we 115 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: go in the field. So like there wasn't a specific 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: moment in my family that kind of changed, I think 117 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: in my life though, Like you know, I had a 118 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: really rocky relationship and I think that really pushed me. 119 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: At the same time, I was in a class where 120 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: we had to fill out an assessment to see like 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: how willing are you to get mental health because you 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: can't go into this field if you yourself are not 123 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: willing to, and it just overlapped where I was just like, 124 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, wow, Like not only am I so willing, 125 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: but I'm actually really excited for this now, um. And 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: so I think that was just kind of a point 127 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: for me. The curiosity was there, and then it just 128 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of hit and I ran with it and I 129 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: love it. I love it. So that's amazing. I love 130 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: that like something personal for you kind of not only 131 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: like your interests of this, but like something personal for 132 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: you where you were like, oh, I am open to 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: this and this is something that I want to instill 134 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure like if for yourself, if that's 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: something that UM, I know you're you're now building your family. 136 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: You're recently engaged to. One of our other guests, Ruben Rubin, 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: was on here with us, a friend of a friend 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: of mine from Hamilton's, and I was like, I have 139 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: to get gen on here because we, as you said, like, 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: it's a there's a stigma attached to mental health and 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: like and even to mental illness. You know, I remember 142 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: just even having friends in the industry being so scared 143 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: to even admit that maybe they might have had a 144 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: mental illness because there's this like negative feeling behind that 145 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: or even saying that you are struggling with something. And 146 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: not only that, but like in our workplaces as well, UM, 147 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I think that's really hard, and I think we are 148 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: getting to that place of um understanding and openness and acceptance. 149 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: And for you working within the five to six, UM, 150 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you mentioned five to six years possibly, yeah, probably, 151 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what years and I'm just knawo, 152 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I know, who are we about? Like seven honestly I 153 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: graduated from college, so about six seven years of of 154 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: working in this field. Yeah, yeah, and what are this 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: What are the changes that like you're seeing I know 156 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: that you did mention like you're seeing more openness? Is 157 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: there somewhere that you're seeing that in? Like what does 158 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: that look like for people that don't really know? Yeah, 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: full disclosure. I was like thrown into doing like Spanish 160 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: there be like my first month or first day, so 161 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: that was yeah, so I've been kind of working within 162 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: our community since like day one. It's terrifying when you're trained, 163 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: when you're learning a new skill, a new career in 164 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: one language, and then you're just thrown into it. So 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: for like full disclosure, like that was rough um for me. 166 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: And I think so me having those you know, four 167 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: or five years of kind of seeing my clients and 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: ages from like you know, a couple of months old 169 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: to like sixties seventies, I think the openness not only 170 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: comes from like each client, but like throughout their treatment, 171 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: so they may come so currently like my position, I 172 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: work with children's and teens UM and so there's a 173 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: lot of family work UM. A lot of the times 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: the parents come in, especially within our community, and it's 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: nothing even another matter. They just need to get over it. 176 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: So they're lazier whatever it is, and it's it come 177 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: from a place of I think it comes from a 178 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: place of love, and it also comes from a place 179 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: of not understanding. Right. So I personally feel that the 180 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: word lazy is so commonly used, not only like in America, 181 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: but just like in our culture as well, like as Latinos, 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: and so it's I try to reframe that for parents 183 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: of like it could be something else, like why are 184 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: they lacking motivation? What is going on? Um? And so 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: I think like through the relationship building, that openness kind 186 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: of comes in play with that, and they're willing, like 187 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: parents and clients and everyone, they're just more willing to 188 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: understand and ask questions and practice UM now full disclosure. 189 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: That's like the best case scenario. Sometimes you have, you know, 190 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: patients and families and clients where it is what it 191 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: is and it's their faults and I'm not doing anything 192 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: and I don't want to learn anything, you know, what 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, but more often than not, there's there's openness 194 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: by the end of it, and it's really cool to see. 195 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: That's great, and like the transitioning of like I mean, 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: you folks, like that's now this now the the point 197 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: the point that you were like draped like dropped into 198 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: the Spanish um situation right where after you finished and everything, 199 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: like was that fear more because of speaking Spanish? And 200 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: now you have to like reframe your mindset of like 201 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, let's talk about code switching, right, like that 202 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: code switch of like oh everything I've just been taught, 203 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: like I didn't even think about it in our community 204 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: and how that would affect our people or what that if? 205 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: That is different, like what was that fear? Where was 206 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: that fear base for you? For me, it was definitely 207 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: the fear of speaking Spanish for an hour straight. I 208 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: grew up speaking Spanish. I'm familiar with it. However, medical, 209 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: like mental health Spanish is completely different. Like how do 210 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: you talk about there's no word for trigger. I just 211 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: want to let you know, like what triggers you when 212 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: you feel anxious or a Greek there's no word for it. 213 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: So there's no word really for coping skills like you 214 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: just gotta wing it, um, so I think from me. 215 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: For me, the big fear was I'm learning something and 216 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: now I have to translate everything that I barely understand 217 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: into another language and then help someone else understand it. 218 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: So it was like this multi layer kind of fear 219 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: of what am I doing? Um, hardcore imposter syndrome of 220 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm new to this, I stuck at this, I'm not 221 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: like what am I doing? Um? And then I realized 222 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: I would start every session with like, you know, sorry 223 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: if my Spanish isn't too good, like let me know 224 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: if you can't understand anything, And after a while I 225 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: just realized they don't care like I might. I've definitely 226 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: gotten a lot better over the years and more comfortable, 227 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, as soon as 228 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: you speak Spanish, they're just like safe, like you can 229 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: see kind of just like relief hit um, because I 230 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: think there's there's just a sense of like un standing 231 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: in safety when that language is there. Um. And it's 232 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: really cool because I think that helps a lot, just 233 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to build the report instantly. UM. So yeah, and in 234 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: your field is there um. I mean what I'm hearing 235 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: is like there's a lack of us UM for our 236 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: community and tell me a little bit more about what 237 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: that looks like. And I'm wondering too, like in your 238 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: educational journey, was their lack I mean, was there reinforcement 239 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: because you were Lapine? Like what what was that? Like? Um, 240 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: my entire program was in English. Um. There are programs 241 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: that offer like Spanish tracks, um, but educationally like it 242 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: was rough. I know, one of my friends later turned 243 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: coworkers started a Spanish clinical workshop that she would hope 244 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: like once a month um, and I ended up being 245 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: like the only one in the meeting because I was 246 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: like I need this, and it ended up just being 247 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: her and I and then it actually ended up turning 248 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: into this full blown workshop that her and I created. 249 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: We have like workshops and workbooks and we like host 250 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: them now, um, like on zoom and we had even 251 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: people like I'm in l A, and we had people 252 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: coming in from like Jersey and Texas and like different states. 253 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Because like you said, like that was lacking, and so 254 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: we needed. What was lacking was a community, a space 255 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: to consult in Spanish, a space to learn in Spanish, 256 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: a space to just talk about how frustrating it is 257 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: to be you know, in this field with minimal resources, 258 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: and so we didn't have that, so we created it 259 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: and it was so cool. We're kind of like in 260 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a lull right now. Um, but yeah, it was. It's hard, 261 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's still hard to this day. I 262 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: work in community mental health and everything is in English 263 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: and everything is like a hundred pages and you have 264 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: to translate it because they don't want to do it 265 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: for you. So it's a lot it's it's hard, and 266 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: I think also just you know that sounds like me 267 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: just kind of complaining at this point. It's hard though, 268 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's also there's not that many of 269 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: us Spanish speaking clinicians, and so as soon as one 270 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: therapist would leave that spoke Spanish, it was like, hey, 271 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: you speak Spanish, I need you to take on the 272 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: other twenty cases that this therapist is just left like behind. 273 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: So it's just a lot of like expectations and kind 274 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: of distress that comes from being bilingual. Like, you know, 275 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: you were working in this in this industry, in this 276 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: field um prior to COVID, and then COVID hit, Like 277 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: what happened? What's happening now? Too? It was wild, um 278 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: to say the least. I'm a big fan of like 279 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: work life boundaries and balance, so I had never taken 280 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: my work stuff home. Um. And so that time when 281 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: we are told like, hey, you're going to work from 282 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: home for two weeks, take your laptop, I was like, 283 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to. But we did it. And we 284 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: were forced, Like not force, but we were put in 285 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: positions that we had no time to process everything that 286 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: was happening to the world right, Like we jumped into 287 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: phone sessions, we jumped into video sessions. We had no 288 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: idea what it looked like. Um. And so I think also, 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: like my clients, they're kids, and so they were like, 290 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: no school for two weeks, Like I don't attack too, 291 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: you know. So it was like weird. I had some downtime, 292 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: got some tanning, you know whatever. But um, and then 293 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I think reality set that this is longer than two weeks. 294 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: And it was rough. Um. It was it was rough 295 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: because everyone needed not everyone, A lot of people needed 296 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: support um, and so did we as therapists. And unfortunately, 297 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: like with resources and community mental health and of expectations, 298 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: nothing changed for us. So even though everything looked different, 299 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: we still needed to provide exactly the same number of 300 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: hours and like there was a lot of talk about 301 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: we're here if you need anything, and there was like 302 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: no support. And then just as a therapist, it was rough. 303 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we didn't have time to just breathe 304 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: and like take in what was happening to I have. 305 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, my mom was isolating with my grandma who 306 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: has cancer, and she was just like we didn't see 307 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: her for six weeks because she had to take care 308 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: of her. And um So, while you're kind of navigating 309 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: your own life, you're navigating twenty to thirty other clients 310 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: that you're kind of helping them navigate to and um 311 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: so it's a lot of just you know, trying to 312 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: get stability for them, trying to get stability for yourself 313 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: while not even understanding what that looks like in the 314 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: moment um. So it was weird. It was weird. I 315 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: guess I don't even know if there's a better word 316 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: for that. Has fitness always been a part of year? 317 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned that you were, you know, the 318 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: typical going to the gym, getting your squats in and 319 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: they're like he is great. You know, like so with 320 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: your fitness like a like a relief for you was 321 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: that like an escape? Oh my god. Yeah. So, like 322 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: you said, so I grew playing sports, had the whole 323 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: background there. Um. Funny thing is when we were told 324 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: to work from home for two weeks, gym's were still open. Um. 325 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: So I just had a feeling. I was like, something's 326 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: going to happen so our gym. My gym was closed 327 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: for about a year and a half, maybe less um, 328 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: and I just had a feeling. So I immediately as 329 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: soon as our office closed, I went to Dick Sporting 330 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Goods and I said, y'all are out here buying toilet paper. 331 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to buy some dumbbells. So I bought dumbbells. 332 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I need to work out while I'm home. 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's gonna look like. I hate 334 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: working out at home. I'm a gym wrap like I 335 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: love into the gym, so I knew. Like for me, 336 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: I was like, either you get over the fact that 337 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: you don't like working out at home or you don't 338 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: work out, and like you know, you're not going to 339 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: pick the second choice, so like do something about it. Um. 340 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I worked out. I have two siblings 341 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: that left the state and don't live here anymore, UM, 342 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: miss them, but their rooms are available, and so I 343 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: use my sister's room as the gym. Um, and then 344 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I would work in my room because I really, I 345 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: know it's a it's a privilege to have a second 346 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: space in our house. A lot of you know, a 347 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: lot of families didn't have that, a lot of people 348 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: were doing everything in one room. Um. So I recognize 349 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: that privilege, and I used that space as a gym. 350 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: So I would wake up, have my same set routine, UM, 351 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: drink my pre workout, put on my workout clothes, go 352 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: to my sister's room, put on my headphones, workout shower, 353 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: and I would get dressed for work every single day, 354 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: even though I was just sitting in my room. Um, 355 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, tying in with fitness, having 356 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: that morning routine or having that daily routine. I stressed 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: it so much with my clients too, because I was like, 358 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: your life is going to blend and it's going to 359 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: be really hard, and structure and stability and routine is 360 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: going to get you through this. So that was kind 361 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: of my saving grace that I kind of shared with 362 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: the clients as well. So definitely, yeah, what are your 363 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: plans for like your fitness training process. Are you trying 364 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: to um personal train or is that something that is 365 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: new for you that you're like, oh, I love this. 366 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to say you love it more, but 367 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: like is there a leaning into that that you're you know, 368 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: maybe taking that on a little more seriously now. So 369 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I got my personal training start back in UM, I 370 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately let it expire, so I have to like retest. 371 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: I want to keep it. UM. I used to work 372 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: out a gym and see clients like personal train in person. UM, 373 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: so I'm still kind of I'm I'm in a little 374 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: like I kind of want to just chill for a second, 375 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: re certify, and then take on some like online ones. UM. 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if Reuben shared this, but I kind 377 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: of have like three loves that I have, so like 378 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: I love being a therapist. I also bake, and then 379 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: I also like love fitness and training. So like my 380 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: ideal like week is like providing therapy for three days 381 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: and then seeing online personal training clients for like a day, 382 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: and then baking and delivering for a day. So like 383 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: somewhere down the line, come on, CEO of three things 384 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: out here just hustling and wrestling. So wait, what are 385 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: we baking? So it started off. I mean I feel 386 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: like a lot of our little side hustles start off 387 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: with like family parties. Um. So it started off like that, 388 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: like probably seven eight years ago, and then I just 389 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: kept getting asked to do stuff. And then now I'm 390 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: I've done like wedding cakes and birthdays and kings, and like, yeah, 391 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: it's like a thing. I don't know how it became 392 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: in a thing, but I'm very grateful for it because 393 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I did not think I had a creative bone in 394 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: my body. Um. And then I see some of the 395 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: cakes that I make and I'm like, all right, that's 396 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: not too bad. Not too bad. So yeah, okay, wait, 397 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: so I love this. I'm obsessed with this, like baking 398 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: creative part of yourself that you've found and now making 399 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: it a business, which is like so incredible. It's very 400 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: much still it's still super small. It's not even like 401 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: a full blown thing, but I really enjoy it. What 402 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: I love to hear like from you is that um 403 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: and something that I I struggle with this and maybe 404 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: some of our listeners do as well, but like creating 405 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: like boundaries. You mentioned that earlier and like, um, I 406 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: know you mentioned it as a joke where now you 407 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: had to go work at home and bring work home, 408 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: as we all had to do with COVID, So what 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: is something on that that maybe you might want to 410 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: share with us. Yeah, um, so my coworkers would always 411 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: joke and call me the boundary lean because I think 412 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: it is something I've gotten good at. However, I think 413 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: it's a daily practice. But like you said, in our community, boundaries, 414 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to say don't exist, but they're just 415 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: very different, right, especially for us, it's just it's a 416 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: need to do more to prove ourselves, to take everything 417 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: on on top of the fact, and those are like 418 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: professional boundaries, but there's also personal one, so maybe caregiving 419 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and doing things for others and that just becomes exhausting. 420 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: So I would say I haven't I don't think someone 421 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: is just like good at boundaries and that's it, like 422 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: game over. It's not like an endpoint. I think it's 423 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: it's a daily, almost even situationally like practice that you 424 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: have to practice every single like moment you get. So 425 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of resources. I remember at 426 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: my previous agency, my coworker and I started a group 427 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: UM in Spanish, it was a codependency group, So talking 428 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: about limits, talking about boundaries, talking about what that looks like. 429 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: And so there's books. There's a book called it's called Boundaries, 430 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: and it's also in Spanish called You Meet This, And 431 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of resources about boundaries. And I 432 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: think the first step to learning how to set those 433 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: boundaries is knowing what your values are. So you can't 434 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: define what your boundaries are without knowing what your values are. 435 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: How do you set a boundary without being rude? You know, 436 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: how do you how do you respect yourself while also 437 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: respecting the other person? And they say, like a healthy 438 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: boundary is the perfect like distance between yourself and that 439 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: person or something. I butchered that saying, but it's something 440 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: along those lines where it's like, you know, basically like 441 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: take care of yourself, so that way you can take 442 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: care of someone else, and you know, people who respect 443 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: you and care about you, whether it's your like career 444 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: wise or yourself even like they'll respect those boundaries. I 445 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: need to tell you guys right now, we just heard 446 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: that probably costs like what three an hour to get 447 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: that into theirky session. So you're welcome. Mental COMMU in 448 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: any mental health that page check different once you have 449 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: your private practice. Once you have your private practice, right, 450 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: which is that something that you want to do? Actually, 451 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: as we're on that little subject, is that is that 452 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: a goal of yours to kind of run your own 453 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: private practice? And like or do you enjoy doing the 454 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: work that you're doing community work? So I actually changed 455 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: positions within my agency in September. So I'm just doing intakes, 456 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: which means I meet with them after we get the 457 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: referral for about two hours three hours gather information diagnosed. 458 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: I love this position. I love being the first person 459 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: that can connect with them you and so I love this. 460 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ready for a private practice just yet. 461 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different especially like business 462 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: side things that I would need to really do research 463 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: on UM. But yeah, like you said, I think it's 464 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: it's a double sided coin, I guess in the sense 465 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: that I love community mental health. However I would like 466 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: to make the money of a private practice. However, how 467 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: how able are you gonna, like, how much of our 468 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: community are you going to be able to reach? If 469 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: you like? Unfortunately, like a lot of our community and 470 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: community mental health is lower scs. And how do you 471 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: help and educate and support the community that I want 472 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: to support while also making the money that you want 473 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: to make. You know, it's weird. It's a weird kind 474 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: of toss up. And do you think with time, um, 475 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: as mental health is becoming more of a conversation, as 476 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: it's becoming something that even now employers are implementing at workplaces, 477 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: do you believe well, of course, I think we all 478 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: hope this, But do you believe that there is a 479 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: future for mental health to become bigger on a grander scale, 480 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: something that's more important that we as a not only 481 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: Latin it but Americans as we are living life in America? 482 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: Do you do you foresee something like that? Is that 483 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: something that you are seeing as the years are going 484 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: further and further into mental health? I think so the 485 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: conversations are definitely there. Um. I think mental health is 486 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: being not only more discussed but more accepted, um in 487 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: terms of getting support and the language we use at 488 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: work and the language you know, people are just using 489 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: within their families. It's changing a lot um. You know. 490 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: I do think like as a clinician, there still needs 491 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: to be more changed within our system um, you know, 492 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: mental health clinicians, Um, of valuing us in a different 493 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: way like as actual like healthcare providers. UM. So I 494 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: think there is like systemic change that needs to happen there. Um. 495 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: While I'm seeing more acceptance, um, you know, and more 496 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: resources available, there's always room for growth, always, especially especially 497 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: in America. Oh yeah, I'm just gonna leave that one. 498 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that one at that. But you know, 499 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: we have we have we have a lot of things 500 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: to work on. And I think that um, what you're saying, 501 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: talking about it, acting on it, um you being here 502 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: on what Anita and having people in our community listen 503 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: to understand that there are some resources and yeah, so 504 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: it's maybe it's lacking, but we're here and we want 505 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: to help and we want to discuss and talk about 506 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: these things because they affect our community as well. I 507 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: think the work that you're doing is so important, Jen, 508 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: And um, it's just it gives me hope for the 509 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: future and for um man, guess were like the same age, 510 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: like you know, for our generation. Yeah, it really does 511 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: give me hope. And I just wanted to say thank 512 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: you on behalf of what Ana like for all the 513 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: work that you do, and I'm just I'm so excited 514 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: to see everything else that you accomplish as you're growing 515 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: and as you're learning and as you're doing and um, 516 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: it's recognized in our community. So I just wanted to 517 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: say thank you for that. That is so sweet. Thank you. 518 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: So this is my favorite time of the show. It's 519 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: time for questions. It's time for some questions to get 520 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: to know you just a little bit more. No questions yet, No, 521 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: these are the real ones, are like the nitty gritty, 522 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: the ones that everyone might be thinking about now. So 523 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: I want to know what's your favorite cheat food. Okay, 524 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna hate me for this. I hate the word cheat. 525 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: Um from fitness and a fitness standpoint. Food there's no 526 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: good and bad food. Food is fuel. So I actually 527 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: don't have cheat meals. I just believe in like enjoying everything. 528 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: And I know people are going to hate this answer, 529 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: and just like just answer that cheat me out. Um. 530 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: I just I think the word cheats gives off guilt 531 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: and shame, and we don't need that with food. I 532 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: grew up being overweight and within our culture there's so 533 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: much shame around food sometimes, so I don't have a 534 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: favorite cheat meal, Um, junk food. I'll tell you, like, 535 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: I love pizza and fries. I'll have the hamburger like, 536 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: but I have my ban almost every single night. Um, 537 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: but I don't consider it cheating. Our second question, no, 538 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: I think you're and you're so right. I mean that's 539 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: it's what you were saying before that. How we how 540 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: we even through mental mental health, how we speak about things, 541 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: and how we discuss things that have been in our 542 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: society for so long and just normalized. It's really important. 543 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: So thank you for that answer. That answer was dope. 544 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I love that answer. Um. Thanks all right, Jen, you 545 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: get to invite two people dead or alive to dinner? 546 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, who are you inviting? And don't worry, 547 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I'll be there too, so you know, love it. Um. 548 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Maybe just because this is recent and this is the 549 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: first thing that came to my mind. UM, but I 550 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: would probably my mom, my dad's mom passed away and 551 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: my mom's dad who also passed away. I you know, 552 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't know too much about my parents as kids, 553 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like I would love to learn more 554 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: about like their childhood, um, and just how they were 555 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: at Our last question, what reminds you of home. However 556 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: it is that you define home. I would say I'm 557 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: very family oriented, so just being with family feels like home. UM. 558 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: Quality time is my love language, and so home to 559 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: me is like loud. You know, all the families screaming 560 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: and talking and dancing and hanging out. And I missed 561 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: that during COVID. So when we got that for the 562 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: first time, after, you know, feeling safe again, it felt 563 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: like home again. I think if you guys go back 564 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: and listen to rubend episode, I think you guys had 565 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: the same answer, Are you serious I'm getting married? Then 566 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I know? Amen to that. I approve, I approve. After 567 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: this interview and before Jen, I want to say again 568 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on and mon Anita, and you 569 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: are welcome back here anytime. UM. It's been such a 570 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you. UM, and thanks for bringing up 571 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: this refreshing topic as well. Thank you for having me. 572 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: Mon Anita is a production of Sonato and partnership with 573 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: I Heart Radios Michael Luda podcast Network. For more podcasts 574 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: from I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, 575 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.