1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers NISAN Radio. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson And it is a beautiful Monday. Was it 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: going to rain again? 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Grass is like, hey, so. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: I cut my grass. Oh it's been about a month now, 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: and my wife was My wife was mad at me 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: because I cut it, and she's like, well, the grass 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: is going to die. And I said, what's supposed to 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: rain tomorrow? And it did rain the next day. It 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: rained that next day. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: So we'll saved you a little bit. 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: But that is the last time it has rained at 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: my house. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 2: So I held two baseball tournaments at my at lou 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Hay's pony Field in Washington when I run the league 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: down there. In both weekends it was suppose to rain, 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: and I was all worried, and I had the guys 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: getting extra turface and all this other stuff, and neither 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: like there was a sixty percent chance of rain like 24 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: both times and nothing. Well I got nothing either time. 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: It's a little. 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Toasty out there, to beautiful about it, but it's a 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: little toasty and it's a little dry. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: I bring this up because the Steelers had the training 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: camp next week. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was we always get to kick on 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: the air talking about the groundskeepers and stuff too. They 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 4: worked their butts off, work their butts off, and it's 33 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: probably not easy at the moment. 34 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: That No, that's a lot of work. 35 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Like I So, for those who don't know, lo Hoy's 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Pony Field, the field that I run in Washington is 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: also the home to the Pony League World Series right 38 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: in August. Uh so I turn as soon as my 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: tournaments are over, once my regular season ends, my tournaments 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: are over, I turned the the facility over to the 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: people who run the World Series. 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 3: Okay, so they've been out there. 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Now the last you know, the last week or so 44 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: since my tournaments ended, just watering the heck out of that, 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: replacing grass and getting it. 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: Like so, I think the same things going on the 47 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: same The same. 48 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: Thing is going on the sand, Like you have to water. 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. If you're not watering your 50 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: grass right now, it's dead. 51 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know way more about than I do. 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: But I mean in terms of like for football reasons, 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: you start digging in that of your cleats. 54 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: It's just gonna shred. I mean it's gonna turn into 55 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: I mean at. 56 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: The point that like one day of heavy practice or 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: heavy foot traffic on a field like this, if you're 58 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: not watering it, we'll kill the grass that much. 59 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: Wow, So is there any on the horizon? And it's 61 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 4: supposed to get hot the rest of the week. 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I thought it was supposed to rain today. 63 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's happening. 64 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that's got Yeah. 65 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't why they keeps missing us. 66 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really weird. I mean we've it's clouded up, 67 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: we haven't gotten the rain. It's just it's amazing. So 68 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: I know those guys are out there busting their butts, 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: and they really start in this. It's a year job 70 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: for those guys, even. 71 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: At Saint Vincent's. 72 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: Even at Saint Vincent, they're out there. They start as 73 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: soon as the weather starts to get in, the spring 74 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: starts to get warm, They're out there working on those fields, okay, 75 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: to get them ready for these three weeks or four 76 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: weeks of training camp. 77 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know that also works the Saint Vincent's 78 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: football team advantage a little bit, but that's part of 79 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 4: the deal. 80 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: You know. 81 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: Again, not my area of expertise, but I do always 82 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: enjoy many times we've had episodes of the drive post 83 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: practice or you know, and you know all the stuff 84 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: they're doing, and I mean it's it's a lot of work. 85 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: I mean before all day and we get off the 86 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: air almost every time they're still going, they're still working. 87 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they start, you know, six am. They're down 88 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: there walking the field, making sure the lines are right, 89 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: making sure there's no divots that need to be replaced. 90 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: And then after practice, like it is literally like fourteen 91 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: hours a day working on those fields. 92 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: And it's a lot of physical labor, but it's also 93 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: a lot of science and knowledge. 94 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like these guys are really good at 95 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: their job too. 96 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I imagine I wonder, like I know nothing 97 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: about this facet of the NFL, but heads groundskeeper in 98 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: New England versus Miami, versus Seattle, versus Arizona verus Chicago, 99 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: Like the climates. 100 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: Are so much different completely. 101 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I would think, like my qualified to go 102 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh to LA or whatever, you know, someone is 103 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: totally different. 104 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: I have no idea. 105 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not hiring Carl Speckler to do these things. 106 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 4: It's like drafted a kicker that's never kicked in the right, 107 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: that'd be more fun than Yeah, like you don't want 108 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: to draft a kicker from Arizona State. Yeah, yeah, come 109 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: of the deal with the environment. 110 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely different. 111 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: And you know, I know when Akrosher Stadium first opened, 112 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: you know that turf got. 113 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: A bad Yeah, yeah, that. 114 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Has no longer been That hasn't been the case in 115 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: a long long time. There they've gone that with that 116 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: natural grass and they've done a great job of keeping 117 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: that up to date and keeping it viable. And we 118 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: bring that up because. 119 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: And real quick, I know you were covering the team 120 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 4: back then, but my first three years of pit where 121 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 4: the first three years of stadium was open, and I 122 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: even like toured kids before as it was getting built. 123 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: We put our hard hats on, like that's gonna be 124 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: your locker room. That's to be the visits in the 125 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: locker room. And you saw some crazy stuff, you know, 126 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: over those three years of trying to keep those fields playable, 127 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: and it's a thousand times. 128 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: Better a thousand times I mean, put it this, it's 129 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: really difficult in the Northeast, anywhere in the Northeast to 130 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: grow natural grass past November. 131 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean for the whole duration of a college 132 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: and NFL season, and there's also two teams on there. 133 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: And you get the high school playoffs every years. 134 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: I commend the Ruoney though, for saying we're going to 135 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: stick with it. We want the whippil stuff here. 136 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: You know. 137 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: They could easily say this is our stadium, go away, 138 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: put everyone here, you know, but they think about the community, 139 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: you know. 140 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: So Steelers announcing today that on Thursday, August fifteenth, at 141 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: Akrochuer Stadium from two to four pm, they'll hold a 142 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: joint practice with the Buffalo Bills. Good that being two 143 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: days before they play a preseason game at Akrocher Stadium. 144 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: That one is close to the public. However, I would assume, 145 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: and we don't. I don't know this yet, but I 146 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: would assume we'll do some kind of broadcast I would 147 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: think during the during the practice down there. So you 148 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: said Thursday, that's a Thursday, we'll be your eyes and 149 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: ears down there. And of course, you know during the 150 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: training camps and things of that nature. Basically starting next week, 151 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: you can hear the drive every day that the Steelers. 152 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: Practice starting Thursday. 153 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, so we get three this week to 154 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: be determined early next week Thursday on. 155 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: You're gonna get sick of us. And that could works 156 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: the weekends. 157 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: If they practice all the weekend, we will be doing 158 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: a show. 159 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: So it's like usually five or six days a week, 160 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: depending on the week. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So. 161 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: Value of joint practice, I mean that could be a 162 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: whole other segment. But I the fact that they're playing 163 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: two days after a joint practice makes me wonder how 164 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: they'll handle that, you know, because there's. 165 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: A lot of coaches. 166 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: I don't know how tom will look at it, but 167 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 4: there's a lot of coaches that would value that joint 168 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: practice more than the preseason game. 169 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there won't be tackling. 170 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: Well And the reason why for that is because you 171 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: can now set things up the way you like. 172 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it. 173 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we want this, this is what we want. You 174 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: go and Mike Tomlin can go to Sean McDermott. I'm 175 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: sure they'll talk before. Hey, we want to look at 176 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the new kickoff role. Yes, we run and I'm sure 177 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: twenty minutes of practice of that because in a in 178 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: a preseason game, you may only get three or four 179 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: kickoffs the entire game. 180 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 5: Well, now, in this situation, you could do a whole 181 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: yeah practice everyone. Yeah, both coaches side, you do whatever 182 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: you want. Like that's the the ultimate obvious example. But 183 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: a lot of time in the past when there wasn't 184 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: a big rule change or whatever, it was like, we 185 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: really need to work on two minute drill. Yeah, but 186 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: you may only have one opportunit at the end of 187 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: the half and maybe one opportunity at the end of 188 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: the second half or none, or not. 189 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: To really do it with a clock. 190 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: We got to score three points before, you know, to 191 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: get the lead before the buzzer hit. 192 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: Against a team that doesn't know what you're gonna that's 193 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: always yeah. Like I always used to drive me crazy 194 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: when I was coaching basketball, and you're trying to do 195 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: a little scrimmage against each other, Like you gets your 196 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, these five against that five. 197 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: It's hard to get a real good look. 198 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Run your you know you're gonna run our offense. I 199 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: know you know what the off car is. So you're 200 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: jumping in the passing lanes and stuff. Like, guys, let's 201 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: act like we don't know what's going on it. 202 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: Be a little bit of an actor here too, right 203 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: and there. 204 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: Frankly, there's a lot of drills that we'll watch at 205 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: Saint Vincent's where the defense knows if it's runner pass 206 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: for Rice. 207 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: Now, oh yeah, you know what I mean a majority 208 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: of them. 209 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: You've lined up against these guys all spring. Maybe it 210 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: did it all last year as well in the year before. Like, Okay, 211 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: I know his tells. I know I see him every 212 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I know when they're in this formation. Uh, 213 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: you know this is what they're going to do. 214 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: I even know the checks. Yeah, you know when Wilson 215 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: comes the line and says, rabbit, rabbit right whatever it is, Like, 216 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 4: I know exactly what that is because I just had 217 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: lunch of them when we talked about it. 218 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: He's not hiding it for me, right right. 219 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: Right, And I've seen it on the practice field a 220 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: thousand times, so I think joint practices are really value. 221 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. And there'll be some physicality to it, 222 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: but it won't be Blitzer says before a game, it won't, right. 223 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's not gonna get hit a thousand times, but 224 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: he'll play and I'm sure he'll play hard. I'm trying 225 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: to think like the biggest stars in that game. I mean, 226 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: Wat plays Fairmount in that practice, but not the preseason 227 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: game cam. 228 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: You know those type of dudes, you know, just. 229 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: Getting you know, getting a good look. And that's the 230 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: other thing about the joint practice. Maybe you're not going 231 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: to play your stars in that game, but they're. 232 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Going to practice oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 233 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: So for them it's like it's almost like an extra game. 234 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: But again, you get control over what's going to be done, 235 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: what you're gonna work on. 236 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: Well know a lot more when we could get close, 237 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: But it wouldn't shock me if what Hayward, et cetera. 238 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: The most physical, most involved they are between now and 239 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: opening day is that game day against the Bills. You 240 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: know they might play well the real reps against you know, 241 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: their starting O line, or hey, you're in charge of pickings, 242 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: you're they're gonna double this play, don't know it? Or frankly, 243 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: the coaching staffs, all right, just run your you just 244 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: make calls. Yeah, I don't tell me it's going to 245 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: be covered too, don't tell me you're blitzinges. You just 246 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 4: run your defense. We'll run our offense and see how 247 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: it goes. 248 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and the Steelers haven't done a lot of 249 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: This is the Lions the last one. 250 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, like Zeke Ansa was here. Yeah that 251 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: and yeah. 252 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: That was that was Jim Corball's last year. The Steelers 253 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: were supposed to reciprocate and go to Detroit the next year, 254 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: but Carball got fired. 255 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: This is kind of a head coach owner collaboration. 256 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: The NFL doesn't say Buffalo, You're going to Pittsburgh. This 258 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: is just totally voluntary. 259 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 260 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So back at you know, when I first started 261 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: covering the Steelers, every year they went and scrimmaged against Washington. Yes, 262 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: because the two camps were closed. 263 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: It's always summer closed. You don't go to Seattle. 264 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: They went to Carlisle or Washington was at Frostburg State. 265 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: I remember driving down there. They came, they came to Pittsburgh. 266 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: I felt like Steelers should do it every year. It's 267 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: it's state college. 268 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, said, typically they like to do it where one 269 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: team comes to the other one, you know, just because 270 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: you don't want to disrupt both teams camps. 271 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 272 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like there's a good chance Steelers go to 273 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: Buffalo next year. 274 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that could happen. 275 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: Right, if it matches up with the preseason gives this 276 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: is what's happening now. I just saw a thing. Thirty 277 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: of the thirty two teams are having some kind of 278 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: joint practices this year. 279 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 280 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: I bet not that there's a mandate, but I bet 281 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: that there's talk amongst the league we're going to go 282 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: to eighteen games. 283 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: One day preseason is going to suffer, you get us. 284 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: We're going to have two preseason games. So this the 285 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: joint practices kind of take the take that the way, Yeah, 286 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: and they can take the spot of one of the 287 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: preseason games. 288 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. And there certainly no two a days anymore or 289 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: anything like that. 290 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: But these will be that'll be an intense day against 291 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: a common or opponent that you're you don't know it 292 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: well at all, even though their last game they were 293 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: eliminated by the Bills. Just a coincidence, and you get 294 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: sick of hitting each other too. Yeah, I mean it's 295 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: good to see another color jersey. 296 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely, so that one will take place, as I said, 297 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday, August fifteenth, at Akersher Stadium from two to 298 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: four pm. Again that is closed. 299 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: Are invited, unfortunately, but I assume. 300 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: That that we'll be doing some kind of shows down 301 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: there to let you know what's happening down there. And 302 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: then of course the Steelers will play the Bills. And 303 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: that's I'm sorry, good Saturday, August seventeenth. 304 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 4: Okay, And that's a good example, though. I don't think 305 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: they want what's going on in the. 306 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: Field to be public. 307 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you might actually practice stuff you're going to 308 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: use in week one. 309 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean like secret stuff, you know. Yeah, 310 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: it's not like just sitting on the hill, you know, No, 311 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: it certainly is not. So we'll see how it goes. 312 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: They make semi game plan for. 313 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, but that'll be their second preseason game as well, 314 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: so that's usually the one where you do play some 315 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: of your starters. 316 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, how they handle that three day stretch or so 317 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: against the Bills? 318 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: And I don't know that we really have a firm grasp. 319 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean they've only had the three preseason games. Now, 320 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: what is this? Is this the third year the four? 321 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: I think so? 322 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the third year. 323 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: You'll probably go to two before. 324 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: And I don't know that anybody has a set plan 325 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: going on. 326 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: Nobody does. 327 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it used to be as people probably 328 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: remember growing up, play guys a little bit, Week one, 329 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 4: a little bit more, Week two, Week three, ramped up. 330 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: I mean Ben would play a whole half or something 331 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: like that, and then week four fight for the fifty 332 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: third spot on the roster or whatever. This year I 333 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: mean now since change, I think every team views it 334 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: different and there is not a league wide script by 335 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: any means there. 336 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Certainly is not. Not looking forward to seeing that one. 337 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 3: That's fun. 338 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: Looking forward to being at training camp starting next week. 339 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: Of course, we'll, like I said, we'll bring you wall 340 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 2: to wall coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt and 341 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: I are going to take a break. We'll be back 342 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,119 Speaker 2: with more. You're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. 343 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: With Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four 344 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: to seven home of the Black and Gold r Steelers 345 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. 346 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the 347 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. We've gone over a couple of 348 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: the top ten lists from ESPN where Jeremy Fowler quotes 349 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: from executives, votes and coaches scouts NFL executives and gets 350 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: their votes on the top players at each position. Let's 351 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: do the running backs today. That one came out last week. 352 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it at the time. And see 353 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: where everything comes out at. And there's a couple of 354 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: guys on here that will be very difficult to rank. 355 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be it easy ranking overall, No, it really is. 356 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: Top is pretty easy, but then it gets muddled. 357 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So the guys who received votes, others receiving votes, 358 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: Karen Williams, James Connor, Tony Pollard, Raheem Moster, Nause, Harris, 359 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: David Montgomery, Ramandre Stevenson, Austin Ekeler. 360 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: There's very few of those, especially like the first three 361 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: or four names that I would consider in my top ten. 362 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: And I know it's not a super strong position. You know, 363 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: we did the my fantasy running back ranks and pretty 364 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: quickly you're not thrilled to, you know, invest in these 365 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: dudes like an Austin Eckler's and is one I could 366 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: see in the vote. You know, he was heard a 367 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: lot last year, but his body work before that was 368 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: really really strong. I don't have a problem with Nause 369 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: falling in that category. There's a couple of them, though, 370 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: I think are stretches. I mean, I know Kyraen Williams 371 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: had a really good year, But to say he's one 372 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: of the top ten in his position, I don't see that. 373 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guys who were in the honorable mention DeAndre 375 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: Swift h yeah, he's. 376 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got better as the season went on, 377 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: but he's one of the best offenses in the league 378 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: with the grade O line. Doesn't hit it up the 379 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: gutlet he should a little too, finesse. Joe Mixon body worked, 380 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: is strong. We've talked about him a couple of times. 381 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: I mean, him and Nausea are the ones that have 382 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: this year years and there's something to be said for that. 383 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: But he's not the player he was when he entered 384 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: the league. Alvin Kamara, he's a tough one for me 385 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: because he's still a force in the passing game. And 386 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: some of that's also Carr being conservative to an extreme 387 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: of dumping it to him. But I thought he he 388 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: and Mixon, of the two, I thought declined more than anybody, 389 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: just as pure hand them. 390 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: The ball school runners. 391 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: James Cook probably trending the right direction, though, I mean, 392 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: he's never going to be a power back in the 393 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 4: Buffalo mold that we always talk about how you should 394 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: have a Bettis or an Allstard, but he's hard to 395 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: play against. 396 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco. 397 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: If he's a Cardinals, he on that list. No, I 398 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: don't think so either, right. 399 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: Exactly, Kenneth Walker, I can't believe in the top ten. 400 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: It'd be my top ten easily. 401 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: And then Aaron Jones is the final honable. 402 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: He might be too. 403 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's always never been a massive workload guy. 404 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: But so what, he's still very effective in both phases. 405 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: So number ten on here and I disagree with this one. 406 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: His highest ranking four four, lowest ranking out of the 407 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: top ten. Last year he was an honorable mention. Travis Aten. 408 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say once again, if you give me a 409 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: choice between Travis Atn and Nausey Harris, I'm taking Nausey Harris. 410 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 4: Certainly in Pittsburgh with their style and what they want 411 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: from their backs. 412 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: I think Travis Atn is highly overrated. 413 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: I think he's closer to Tony Pollard than he is. Yeah, 414 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: he's not the best guy. 415 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: He's not. 416 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: He's a he's a complimentary back. I don't think he 417 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: is a give him the football and ride him. 418 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he I bring this up all time with 419 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: him is if you're going to be that type, you 420 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: have to be a force in passing game. And he's 421 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: only a dump ball. He's not a route runner. He 422 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: has average hands. He's dangerous, especially earlier in the year. 423 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah year, but he wears. 424 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: Down, he wears down in that Miami kind of mold. 425 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: And once again, he averaged less yards per carry last 426 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: year than Harris did. 427 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: He. Yeah, they're running in people finished like three point 428 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: eight yards of carry. 429 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: And what's kind of interesting is they drafted Tank Bigsby 430 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: early third round a year ago and he had a 431 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: flop of a rookie year. Yeah, but that was just 432 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: studying him a little bit. Like that poor guy. I 433 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 4: think he had two passes that he do. You think 434 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: he dropped two passes all year? They both clanked off 435 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: his hands and turned into pick sixes. Like he couldn't 436 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: have had a worse chance, you know. So I bet 437 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: they plan on incorporating Bigsby a little more. 438 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: Almost have to, because yeah, again Atn is not a 439 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: guy you want to give the football to twenty to 440 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: twenty five times a game. 441 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: No, And they have been kind of by default. I 442 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: kind of thought they might draft another one this year. 443 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. 444 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: I'd run give me Kenneth Walker over him all day long, 445 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: all day long. 446 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: And most people probably think Atm is a much better receiver. 447 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: He really isn't. No, okay. 448 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: Number nine his highest ranking, three, his lowest ranking out 449 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: of the top ten. He's now thirty. Last year's ranking 450 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: number five, Derrick Henry. I think I'd still be higher Oncknry. 451 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: Who had Derrick Henry out of the top ten. I 452 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: mean he had to be kind bottom three blocking last year. Yeah, 453 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: with no quarterback scared anybody, the whole world focusing on him. 454 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: Still had a pretty good year. I meant, he got 455 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 4: hit behind the line of scrimmage more than ever. I've 456 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 4: doubted him every year, and I'm just done doubting him. 457 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he's special. I think he's a Hall of Famer. 458 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: Number eight his highest ranking, number three, his lowest ranking unranked. 459 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Last year he was not ranked at all. That would 460 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: be Jamior Gibbs. 461 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. 462 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how much he can handle, 463 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: but I think they're very aware of that with Montgomery. 464 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: They have Montgomery. 465 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he is dangerous. He moves at a 466 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: different speed the most bad. You would worry about weather 467 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: and conditions. But this year, I think they played fourteen 468 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 4: games in a dome, you know, I mean like it's 469 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 4: perfect for him. He could blow up this year. 470 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Number seven highest ranking, two lowest ranking on ranked. Last 471 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: year he was number three. That is Josh Jacobs. 472 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: My tunes changed on him a lot too. 473 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: I mentioned Mixing and Kamara the two that I took 474 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: the biggest step back last year. I think Jacobs is 475 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: a neighborhood I thought for like the first four or 476 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: five years of his career he was vastly underrated because 477 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: like when he played with John Gruden, I think he 478 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: was thrown the football twice on third downs. Yeah, he 479 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 4: was a good receiver, but he wasn't even on the field, 480 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: wasn't even on the field right. And then he was 481 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: a total I love his style of play. He was 482 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: the massive workload. I think he led the league in 483 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: rushing two years ago. Yeah, but it looked like things 484 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: had taken their toll last year. Like if I was 485 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: Green Bay, I would not have invested in them. 486 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: Number six, highest ranking, number one ranking unranked. He was 487 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: not ranked last year. That is Bjeon Robinson, who in 488 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: the right ranked unranked. Are you kidding me? 489 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 3: Just watch them? 490 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: I mean he just watches Texas tape. I mean people 491 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: give Arthur Smith a hard time, but I with him. 492 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: I really think he was doing the Tomlin thing of yeah, 493 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 4: and then if you look at his last month or 494 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: six weeks with the Falcons, he was getting the bulk 495 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 4: of the action and handling it great. He had one 496 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: weird game that every fantasy owner will remember where he 497 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 4: was quote sick, and he was sick. He probably shouldn't 498 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: addressed it at all, and he just stood on the 499 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: sidelines the whole time and occasionally came in the game. 500 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: And people blame Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith doing. 501 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: Like you really need to kick that one out, and 502 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: he was incredibly good. He could be one on that 503 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: list next year. 504 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: Number five is highest ranking. Number two his lowest ranking unranked. 505 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: Last year he was number six. That's Jonathan Taylor again, 506 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: who's un ranking? 507 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, I mean that's a special player too, 508 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 4: in a throat like in the eighties. I mean he's 509 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 4: not a great receiver, he's not a great route runner, 510 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: big strong, oh yeah, And they really use them similar ways, 511 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 4: but one of them is thirty pounds heavier on the 512 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: other you know, and he has just so much breakaway ability. 513 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a star. 514 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: He does still have the fumble issues a little bit. 515 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 3: That's a little bit of our ability stuff. 516 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know that he's gonna Richardson's gonna eat 517 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: into his carries if we're just talking about numbers, ye, 518 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: But I mean that doesn't mean as a ball carrier 519 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: he's any less number four. Like if I had a 520 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: Steeler back for one year, Jonathan Taylor'd be pretty high 521 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: on my list. 522 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, number four. His highest ranking was two, his lowest 523 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: ranking ten. Last year he was number four. That is 524 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. 525 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: I don't know yet, but to think of him because 526 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: a lot of his advanced stuff, you know, yards after 527 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: contact blah blah blah blah blah, have decreased, as most 528 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: backs do with his age. But he's one of those 529 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 4: guys too that what just like Henry could not have 530 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: had worse blocking and no one feared the Giants passing game. 531 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: He is a force in the as a receiver. I 532 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: mean he'd still be a top ten or top five back. 533 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: For me probably. 534 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he could rejuven himself in a huge way in 535 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: Philly yeah. 536 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: And they gave him money. 537 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: Number three highest ranking, number one ranking unranked. Last year 538 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: he was number one. He's twenty eight years old. That's 539 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, who knows. I don't know where you would 540 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: put him. Yeah, I mean it's like somebody not having 541 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: him ranked. I get it. 542 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm thinking if I was one. Yeah, exactly. 543 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: I mean I think he's maybe better than Henry as 544 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: best ball carrier over the last five years. 545 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he's more dynamic. 546 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: But I mean, if the ballot came across my desk 547 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: right now and said where do you rank him, probably 548 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: wouldn't be three. 549 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: No, but he deserves It's like Aaron Rodgers right kind 550 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: of the same time. They deserve it. But I get it. 551 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, number two highest ranking was number two is lowest 552 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: ranking unranked. 553 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a big discription. 554 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: That's a big discrepancy. Last year he was an honorable mention. 555 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: That's Bryce Hall. 556 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he started the season slow. 557 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 4: Remember he was coming off an injury to start the year, 558 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: and him and Garrett Wilson did amazing things with the 559 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: worst quarterback play in the league and an offensive line 560 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: that was all over the place. Really good receiver, really 561 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: explosive anyone who knows anything about fantasy realizes, like McCaffrey 562 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: sits alone, and then it's Bijon and Hall are in 563 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: their own tier, and you can flip a coin between 564 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: those two for me. 565 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and McCaffrey's one and number one is McCaffrey. His 566 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: highest ranking was one, his lowest ranking was four. 567 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you put Chubb ahead of him, maybe 568 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 4: you put Henry ahead of him, if that's your style, 569 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: but four, I mean, I don't know that I can 570 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: come up with three names that I could even argue. 571 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 4: It's not like he's a finesse guy. I mean, he 572 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: scores more touchdowns than games played, Like with the Niners, 573 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: it's bonkers. 574 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: Does he go to the Hall of Fame more Good Year? Yeah? 575 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 3: I think. 576 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean he's getting into that neighborhood. Yeah. 577 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a real force. 578 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think if he if he retired today, 579 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: that would happen. But he's twenty eight, he's been around 580 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: for a few years. One of the stuff running this, 581 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 2: you're not going to get the numbers that you had 582 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: twenty years. 583 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: You're never to compete with them. Yeah, OJ and Franco 584 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: or any of those. 585 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: Getting to I think at this point, if you get 586 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: to ten thousand yards rushing, I think that's like a 587 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: slammed don Yeah, I think you got guys that have, 588 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, twelve thousand yards now eleven thousand yards. Ricky Waters, 589 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: he's never gonna sniff them. 590 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: Never sniff Yeah, Like Zeke Elliott isn't a ten yet, no, 591 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 4: you know, and he's had a really good career for 592 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: this yet. Yeah, didn't make this list anywhere. But no, 593 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: Chubb's never going to get to ten. Henry, Yes, have 594 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: a good year or two to get to ten. And 595 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: some of these guys are kind of like nause. They're 596 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: coming in a little bit older than what they used 597 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: to a point, good point, and no one just rides 598 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: them like Eric Dickerson. 599 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's just a different world. 600 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: It is a different world. 601 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: And the McAffrey fits this world. 602 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's I think he and Gibbs, like Gibbs 603 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: is the closest thing to McCaffrey. 604 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see if he can hold up as long 605 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: as McCaffrey and do the dirty work as McCaffrey has. 606 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: But he sure has that look about him. 607 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: But they've they've done it again, Destrot's done a good 608 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: thing there by they got the banger in Montgomery and 609 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: then they have the McCaffrey type. San Francisco doesn't have that. 610 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: No, that's about saying too like Mitchell used to kind 611 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: of eat into his time. 612 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: That's why they used Debo for some of that stuff. 613 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 4: And they drafted Grendo. You know, it's another fast dude, 614 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: but late. You know, they do seem to use picks 615 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: on backs. But I think it's kind of lev Bell thing. 616 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: It's like, why am I taking him off? 617 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 618 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's better at everything. If we're up 619 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: by twenty, I'll take him off the field. But other 620 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: than that, nope. 621 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: Or I'll just split him out wide and you know, 622 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: leave on the field and he can just run routes. 623 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 624 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But that was the list of top ten running backs. 625 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: In my top ten. 626 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: Walker Walker would definitely have been in my top ten. 627 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 628 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 2: He could have a big year, Yeah probably. 629 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 630 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with the rest of those 631 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: guys being on there, but Walker would would have definitely 632 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: been in my top ten. 633 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: Over atn prediction Jalen Warren will get votes for this 634 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 4: next year. 635 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I have no doubt about that. 636 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get through a break. He is d Matt Williamson. 637 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 638 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this. 639 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 640 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 641 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 642 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson 643 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: and Matt. We just went through the running back rankings 644 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: on for Jeremy Fowler on his top ten list on ESPN. 645 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: Again not his choice, but NFL executives, coaches and scouts. Uh, 646 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks just dropped today as well. Yeah, let's let's 647 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: roll through that one here to finish out our number 648 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: one here. 649 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 4: I would bet we get Sando's quarterback tiers here and 650 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 4: then next beginning too. 651 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was opening up. Yeah. 652 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: So others receiving votes were Kyler Murray, which you got 653 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: no problem. 654 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: I got no problem with that. 655 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: In Baker Mayfield, I saw that too, him like top 656 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: ten h an ok Year Tampa Bay. 657 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: Whoever's got the ballot from Tampa Bay probably voted Baker. 658 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: I guess. 659 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, we gave him money, we better put 660 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: him on the top ten list. 661 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, I think Canalis did a really good 662 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: job with him. I think he's gonna be lost my hunches. 663 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 4: That's probably the best season in Baker's career, which is okay, Yeah, 664 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 4: I mean it was, you know, not great, but to 665 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: consider him for the top ten when some of these 666 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: names on the Armble mention are like, wow, they're so. 667 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: Much better than Baker. 668 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the honorable mentions Trevor Lawrence. 669 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm still very much a Lawrence supporter, but it is 670 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: kind of time to shut up or put up, you know. Yeah, 671 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: he's just got paid. He has immense talent. Some of 672 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: his help hasn't always been there. He has some bad luck, 673 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 4: but he also he got sixty turnovers. Turnovers are a 674 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: problem though. Yeah, and that's there's no one to blame yourself. 675 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: Twenty one last year twenty one, it's a lot. That's 676 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: a lot. I mean when we get to Josh Allen, 677 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: which will be at the end of the segment, of 678 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: course he has a ton, but. 679 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: He makes up without question. 680 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins also on that honorable mention. 681 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: List, probably wouldn't be in my top ten, but he's 682 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: a good football player. 683 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: I mean he played really well for the Vikes before 684 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: his injury to a. 685 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Tag of Ailoa an honorable mention. 686 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's there's a conversation we had of how 687 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: much does the system help some of these guys party 688 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: to a golf But they're in. 689 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: The system and they probably wouldn't run the exact same system. 690 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: If it was a different quarterback either. So Joe Wantanna 691 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 4: was a system quarterback, you know. I mean there's so 692 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't hold that against guys a ton if you 693 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: ask them to be Josh Allen, he wouldn't be on 694 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: this list. 695 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts an hounorible mention. 696 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: He played hurt a lot last year, get it, but 697 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: he would be outside my top ten. Respect His game 698 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: toughness is great. If you can make him drive the 699 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: football outside the numbers time and time again, I think 700 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: you can play. 701 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: Against some with some success. 702 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Love and I think he'll be in the 703 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: top ten next year. 704 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: I think what he did is very real. 705 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: And Brock Purty an honorable mention. 706 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 4: I get the honorable mention. I mean he's been highly effective. 707 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 4: He's certainly better than the Jimmy Garoppolos coming around on 708 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 4: him a little, but he's I mean, i'd rather Trevor Lawrence. 709 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Perty. He's seventeen and four as 710 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: a starter, so we've only seen twenty one starts. We've 711 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: seen some postseasons. 712 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: I thought more. 713 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: I would have thought more as well. 714 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah that rookie year. I thought he took over earlier 715 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 4: than that. 716 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: No, it was late in the season. 717 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: Ok. 718 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. 719 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: I mean they do you pay him or not? 720 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: That's gonna be there. That's what they got to deal with. 721 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean hopefully for their kate. 722 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: Like worst case scenario for the Niners would be like 723 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: he gets hurt in week two, Yeah, and it's like, 724 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: not only do you lose your starter? Of course that's 725 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 4: the same true for thirty two teams, But then it's like, 726 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: now I have only two more games that jud jo 727 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: on how to pay this guy? And then that what 728 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: does it look like when he doesn't have yeah oh yeah, yeah, 729 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: you know the best offensive talent around him? 730 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: What would be interesting? 731 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: And this isn't good for Niner world, But let's say 732 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: they trade Debo and Ayu gets hurt and then all 733 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's like, well, now the quarterback needs 734 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: a carry Kenny or not. I don't think he can. 735 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: I bet not. 736 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: But I do like his player on their system and 737 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: does everything great in their system. I can't fans or 738 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: bus about that. 739 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: He's definitely a better athlete and playmaker than I gave 740 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: him credit for his rookie year. He started to expand 741 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: that stuff too, Like Jimmy just either ran the player 742 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: third away. 743 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 744 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: Number ten. 745 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: Here's highest ranking, number seven, lowest ranking out of the 746 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: top ten. Last year he was number nine. That's Dak Prescott. 747 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: He was runner up for the MVP. 748 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of feel like the guy gets 749 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: a bum rap that he can't take us to the 750 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: next level. Maybe can't, but I'm not sure that organization 751 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: super conducive to winning playoff games either, and they. 752 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: Don't have any running game. 753 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 4: That's about where i'd have him ranked, though there's a 754 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: name coming up soon though that I would have him 755 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: ahead of in the NFC. 756 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: Number nine, his highest ranking was five. His lowest ranking 757 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: out of the top ten. That's Jared Goff. 758 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: That's who I was thinking. 759 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: I like Dak more than golf, but it's hard to 760 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: poke Coles and golf. 761 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: Somebody had Golf at five. Prescott's highest ranking was seven. 762 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I would never consider either in the top five. 763 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 4: But Golf's been a really good lion. 764 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: Number eight, highest ranking, number three, lowest ranking out of 765 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: the top ten. There's not where that's Aaron Rodgers. 766 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: He's the Nick Chubb conversation from the same thing. Yeah, 767 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: I mean people think that he's still MVP aarin. His 768 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 4: last year in Green Bay was not like that. I mean, 769 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 4: he won the MVP of the year before and now 770 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: he's older. I out of respect, he would be in 771 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: my top ten if I had gotten a ballot. 772 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't know where to put him. 773 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it is around eight. Maybe, I mean, is 774 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: he better than Dak Prescott right now? I don't could be, 775 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: could be, though, I mean inevitably. 776 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: The day will come when he's going to look like 777 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: end of career Ben Ryan Rivers Breeze probably, I mean, 778 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: or he could have a great year and. 779 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: Hang it up. 780 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: Number seven, highest ranking, number two, lowest ranking out of 781 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: the top ten. 782 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: Wow, how's that happen? 783 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: Last year he was not available by C J. Stroud. 784 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: Well, okay, I can't imagine not having him unranked, though. 785 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't he can't be too He can't be too either, 786 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: but he can't. 787 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: Be out of your top ten after the season he. 788 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: Had no right. 789 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 4: I'm a believer. I mean, there's no question I have 790 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: some concern. Although his O line looks way healthier than. 791 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: It was, you would have more receiver health. 792 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a loaded caste. 793 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: But the chances of him having a historic, you know, 794 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 4: maybe the best rookie year ever and then actually getting 795 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: better the next year, that's gonna be tough. I mean, 796 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: you know, there's three defensive coordinators that are watching his 797 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 4: tape every day in the South. 798 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's not gonna seak up on anybody. 799 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Number six, his highest ranking number is third. His lowest 800 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: ranking out of the top ten last year's ranking number five, 801 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: And that's justin. 802 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: Herbert out of the top ten is kind of rough. 803 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: That's rough, Like I like how Sando does it better 804 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: with his tiers. Herbert to me, would not be a 805 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: Tier one player at this point, but certainly you could 806 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 4: easily write a story where he is for the rest 807 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 4: of his career. 808 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: The talent, there's some questions. Talent is there, but again, 809 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: as Jeremy points out here, he's thirty and thirty two 810 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: in his careers. 811 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they lost that playoff game in Jacksonville. 812 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 2: And they had a twenty one point leader right said. 813 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: They were blowing people out, And I mean, there's just 814 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: I did read this one. There's an interesting nugget in there, 815 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 4: something about he's only played like nineteen passes where Alan 816 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 4: or Williams wasn't on the field, Like that's not his fault, 817 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: but he's gonna have to. 818 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 3: Do that now. Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm 819 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 3: a believer. Don't get me wrong. He could be my 820 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: quarterback all day long. 821 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: The talent is definitely there. Yeah, but that organization isn't. 822 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 3: Great for talented quarterbacks over the years. 823 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: Like so he was since he was drafted. He has 824 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: more passing yards, completions, and completions through for his first 825 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: four seasons than anyone in the first four years in 826 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: league history. 827 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but that's a bad thing in some ways. 828 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: You're throwing the ball like crazy because you're losing your 829 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 4: defenses because your bad special team and stuff. 830 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: Like that go to make up for bads happening on 831 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 2: the other units. And I just you know, I know 832 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: everybody says it's passing league, it's a passing, but you 833 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: gotta pass when you want to pass, not when you 834 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 2: have to pass. 835 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: Yes, agreed. 836 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: I've never said this on the air, but it's always 837 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 4: been in the back of my head since they hired Harbaugh. 838 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 4: And I'm a Herbert believer and I'm hoping this isn't true. 839 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 4: But Harbaugh's hard to be around, and he is in 840 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: your face all the time, run through a wall. Herbert 841 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: seems much more passive, you know, like he's That was 842 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 4: one of the knocks coming out. He's not a raw, 843 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 4: raw guy, because I mean, he's not competitive. He's just 844 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 4: more of an introvert. If things are, if they're two 845 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: and four, are those two gonna be buddies? 846 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 847 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like they could be oil 848 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 4: and water. Everyone just assumes they'll be great together. 849 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: Number five his highest ranking, three, his lowest ranking ten. 850 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Last year he was number ten. That's Matthew Stafford. 851 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm still a believer. 852 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 4: I fear that some of his arm trouble will make 853 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 4: him look like endo career band at some point where 854 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: he can't throw lasers. But boy, I love his style. 855 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: Play and him Bay are great together. I think he's 856 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 4: the best quarterback in the NFC. But I wonder for how. 857 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: Long number four, highest ranking, number two, lowest ranking five. 858 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: Last year he was number seven, and that's Lamar Jackson. 859 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the top four or number one is 860 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: pretty clear. I think the other three are pretty clear. 861 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: You could fight on the order. He's the MVP. He's 862 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 4: won two of them. The nugget that stood out to 863 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 4: me reading it was his lifetime winning percentage is identical 864 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: to Brady's. 865 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and pretty good some when he's playing the Steelers. 866 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: And only two foreign playoffs. Braiding him in the playoffs 867 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 4: were a lot different right against Steelers. But that includes 868 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 4: his rookie year when he took over, you know, was rookie. 869 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 4: Yar only started only like five or six. 870 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 2: I think at the end number three, highest ranking is 871 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: number one, lowest ranking, number six. 872 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: He'd be two for me, Alan Josh last. 873 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 2: Year year's three. 874 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: Somebody put him at six and somebody put one. Somebody 875 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 4: put him at one, sure, which is more egregious. I mean, 876 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: who doesn't like Mahomes? But yeah, he would be two. 877 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I think we can probably figure out who 878 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 4: two is. It's a much different style quarterback than Alan, 879 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 4: and I could see some gms, especially old school gms, 880 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 4: just saying I can't live with the turnovers, you know, 881 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 4: I just can't. 882 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: Number two. Then is Joe Burrow highest ranking number two, 883 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: lowest ranking seven? Okay, I don't get putting Joe Burrow seven, right, 884 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: get a whole durability against him. But Joe Burrow, Joe 885 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: Burrow a stroud note I was thinking of too. One 886 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 2: thing he needs to show is his numbers versus pressure. 887 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 2: Are I guarantee the worst in this in this list. 888 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean, so that's a step he needs to take. 889 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: Guys like quarterback thing. It'll probably come. Yeah, Burrow, I 890 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: got no problem. I mean I love his demeanor, I 891 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: love his accuracy. 892 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: He's not as athletic or physically imposing as these guys, 893 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 4: but he's such a microprocessor that you know. 894 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: Great. 895 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: And then number one is highest ranking one, lowest ranking two. 896 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 2: Last year he was number one. 897 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: So somebody put Allen one yems two. 898 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: It's not the craziest thing I've ever heard, but it's 899 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 4: not for most people obviously. Yeah, I mean he's in 900 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,919 Speaker 4: a tier by himself. Yeah, I mean he's he's fighting 901 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 4: the all time greats now. Yeah, I mean he's into 902 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 4: that conversation. 903 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah he is, he is. I mean I don't he's 904 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: to fight you on that one. 905 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either, But that is. 906 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 4: Any chance he's not one next year? No, I mean 907 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 4: I feel like he could have a bad year. I mean, 908 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 4: like stay it will be his worst case scenario would 909 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 4: be like you stay healthy for seventeen games and you 910 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 4: don't play well. I mean, if he gets injured, he'll 911 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 4: still be one. And Alan and Burrow are both like unbelievable. 912 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: I still think he's probably one. 913 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: In his first seven years. 914 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: I read this. 915 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight thousand passing yards. 916 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's averaged four. 917 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: Thousand and he didn't play his rookie year. 918 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: Remember right, he played one game. 919 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: One game, and he has two hundred and nineteen touchdown passes. 920 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: So he's averaging thirty touchdown passes a year and he 921 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 2: didn't play his rookie year. 922 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and really should be a six year sample, so 923 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 4: he's averaging way more than that. 924 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy, absolutely, But that is Jeremy Fowler's list 925 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 2: of the top ten quarterbacks in the league, as polled 926 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 2: by NFL executives, scouts, and coaches. We're going to get 927 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: to a break. That's going to do it for our 928 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: number one of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, Matt, 929 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: and now I'll be back with our number two right 930 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: after this