1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk. Thank you for joining us right 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: here in the Giants Podcast Studio, presented by Hackensack and 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: maridin Health keep getting better. Our guest today is Greg 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Rosenthal from NFL dot com and now we welcome our guest. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: He is Greg Rosenthal, NFL Network, NFL dot com. You 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: can find them on the NFL Deli podcast and all 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms. Also the Free Agency half of 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the forty and Free Agency Podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: when free agency kicks off next week on Monday, Tuesday 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: and Wednesday. You can find them on all NFL Fast 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Programs channels and platforms, and the NFL YouTube channel. At 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: seven pm, Greg, Welcome to the Giants Total Podcast. Man, 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: how are you? 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: I am good? This this is my time of year. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: Like everything we're gonna be analyzing and talking about for 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: the next five months basically happens in the next ten 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: or twelve days. 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, baseball free agency is kind of 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: like a trickle. NFO free agency is a title wave. 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna have two or three days and you're gonna 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: get hammered by the title wave. And you can check 24 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: out Greg Glisten NFL dot com. He puts together a 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: great job the top one hundred and one free agent. 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: So let's start there. Give me the twenty thousand foot 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: view of this free agency class. What is it? How 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: should fans think about it? And how do you think 29 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: this is gonna look? 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: What? 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: It all kicks off next Monday. 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: Not a ton of huge names, and in general I 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: would say, like the top thirty or forty, like, it's 34 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: not as many difference makers as you maybe would hope. 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: But one thing I really took away doing this exercise, 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: but I thought it was a deeper free agent group 37 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: than maybe any I've ever done. I've been doing this 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: for thirteen fourteen years. The quality of the players that 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: I left off the list I thought was better than 40 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: in any previous year. I think that's because a more 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: short term contracts. There's a lot of guys who are 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: signing one two year deals. Max is going back into 43 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: freegency over and over, So a lot of guys that 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: will help your team, not big names that are gonna 45 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: get you six hundred snaps and ultimately play better than 46 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: half the you know, round one or certainly round two, 47 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: round three rookies that come into the league and actually 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: help your team, but like not a lot of stars. 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: But I actually do think it's a lot of depth 50 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: at a lot of the non premium positions. 51 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: So that's where I was gonna go next. What positions 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: do you think you're going to find the most depth? 53 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so running back is great in free agency. I 54 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: think tight ends is really good in free agency. I 55 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: actually do think edge is good. So that would probably 56 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: be the one position where again you can find top 57 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: level guys, you can find some promising mid level guys 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: off off their rookie contracts, and then you can find 59 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: a lot of guys who kind of fill that role 60 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: that I talked about earlier. Five hundred and six hundred 61 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: good snaps for you. So edge is pretty good. And 62 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: then safety's awesome too. I actually think there's more legit 63 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: plus starters at safety where it's not just you're guiding 64 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: a guy to fill a hole, but they're actually good 65 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: starters and guys that you know, might not make a 66 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: ton of money but but can help your team out. 67 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: In free agency where might it be a little bit 68 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: lights if you need, Yeah, buddy, you might go, you know, 69 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: go down the shopping aisle and the shelves are a 70 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: little bit empty. 71 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's no surprise that quarterback tackle, I mean tackle. 72 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: It's really brutal. 73 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: There's almost no tackles available, offensive tackles, defensive tackles, and 74 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: this is different than most years. There's just not many 75 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: beyond kind of those rotational guys that I was talking about. 76 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 3: So that's a position that I think is really thin. 77 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: Those are the ones that stand out to me. And 78 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: receiver maybe not as deep as normal normally. I feel 79 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of different flavors at receiver. I 80 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: like five or six guys, including one of your guys, 81 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: Wandale Robinson, that are out there, but not the depth 82 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: at the position that normally I would see. 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll get to the Giants individuals in a second. 84 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: But it's funny and my notes are the same. On 85 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: the class, I think we're pretty much in agreement in 86 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: terms of where the strengths of weaknesses on and I 87 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: think it's a weird year because a lot of the 88 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: strengths of the free agency class actually matches the strengths 89 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: of the draft class, which is not what you want generally, 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: if you're an NFL decision maker. 91 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right. 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: We literally just finished taping an episode the forties in 93 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: free agency you mentioned with Daniel Jeremiah, and that's kind 94 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: of how we approach this post combine like which positions 95 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: were better in free agency, we're worse in free agency, 96 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: And for instance, I think the lack of tackles is 97 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: gonna help push up the draft prospects, the lack of 98 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: tackles in free agency, whereas you know, there's a decent 99 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: amount of guards in free agency, and you're absolutely right. 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I think it matches up pretty similarly. Where there's some 101 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: good safeties, there's some good linebackers. Receiver might be a 102 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: spot where you like it better in the draft than 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: you do in free agency. 104 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you on that one hundred percent. 105 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: As of this recording, now, I was just like you. 106 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I was just recording something else live, so maybe I 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: miss something. This is gonna air a little bit later 108 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: in the week. We have Pickens has been franchised, right, 109 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitch has been franchised. The Jets say they're gonna 110 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: put some type of tag on Brisol that has not 111 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: happened yet. 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Franchise tag Yeah, he's getting Yeah, franchise. 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Whether it's transition or franchise whatever. We're about an hour 114 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: from the deadline. Do you expect Pierce to go off 115 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: the board anyone else that you're keeping an eye in 116 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: terms of the tags. 117 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is tricky because this will be old news. 118 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: But I think Daniel Jones will get tagged if they 119 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: can't get a deal. I think this is coming down 120 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: to the wire that either way him and Alec Pierce, 121 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: I believe are gonna stay with the cult. So it's 122 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: very similar to the Daniel Jones Saquon Barkley situation from 123 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: a few years ago. Just replaced Barkley with Alec Pierce. 124 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: But either way, I think the team wants to keep 125 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: them both. 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: So it's funny. When I'm my office on the other 127 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: side of the building on this exact time, twenty twenty three, 128 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: I guess it was right. I walk out of my 129 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: room and I see Joe Shane walk out of one 130 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: of the meeting rooms where they're meeting with like Barkley's 131 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: and DJ's agents, and he's on the phone all stressed out, 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: like trying to figure out what to do and when 133 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: you say that went down to the wire, that went 134 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: down to the absolute wire. And Daniel Jones has a 135 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: really good habit of having good seasons when he's heading 136 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: into free agency. Huh. He is quite the knack for that. 137 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: Not all tell you that. 138 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: But he has an injury complicating things very often too. 139 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: And this is a really serious injury that I think 140 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: is tricky. They're gonna have to figure out a long 141 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: term deal to the transition tag, which is what I 142 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: hear would be the case for him, because I don't 143 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: think they think any other team is going to step 144 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 3: in and try to sign him for that big of 145 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: a It's just it's just too big. But it is 146 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: complicated considering how well oh he was playing, but also 147 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: what a serious injury that is. Ultimately, there's only so 148 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: many quarterbacks out there. The Colts really like his marriage 149 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: with Sean Stike, and so I'm not really sweating the details. 150 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure Colts fans are. I just think they're gonna 151 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: find a way to get it done. 152 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I think he makes it back, 153 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: which is kind of similar to the situation that the 154 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Giants were with Daniel Jones a few years ago. It's 155 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable how similar the two situations are. Who are the 156 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: guys you're watching when free agency starts that need to 157 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: get signed before teams start moving on other guys. You know, 158 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: there's always like two or three guys that all right, well, 159 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: we'll wait on this guy. We're not gonna go sign 160 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: the guy in tier two until we know about this 161 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: tier one guy first. Who do you think are the 162 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: big fish in the pond that have to go first 163 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: before everything else starts happening. 164 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, the edge market really stands out to me because 165 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: I think Jalen Phillips is a real deal, top of 166 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: the market type of guy. Reminds me a little bit 167 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: of where Milton Williams was also from the Eagles last year, 168 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: and I think him and Trey Hendrickson are interesting because 169 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: I think Hendrickson maybe gets less long term money because 170 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: he's a little older. 171 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: But I think those two. 172 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: Guys and then Adafeoway and I would even throw a 173 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: boy Mafe from the Seahawks Integray crew. I just think 174 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: some people would maybe throw Quitty Pay from the Colts 175 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: also in the group. I wouldn't, but I think those 176 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: four guys specifically, maybe roughly in that order are gonna 177 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: get pegged off before you get to the mercenaries like 178 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack, or maybe the second tier guys, 179 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: which I would include Arnold Abakeetti is a guy who 180 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: I like Joseph Asai from the Bengals, But I think 181 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: they have to wait till the top. 182 00:07:59,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Of the market. 183 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: To me, that market is very clear, and you mentioned 184 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: how it's a title wave. I just don't expect to 185 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: wait super long on most of those guys. Hendrickson could 186 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: be one where maybe he doesn't see the value. It's 187 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: not all matching up right away, where it takes a 188 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 3: couple of days. Sometimes you see that with the older guys. 189 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Hoddle up, get in here. 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Yeah, there's a lot of end 200 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: of the first round, top of the second round guys 201 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: that are coming off their rookie deals, you know, the Mafees, 202 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the ebiquettis that. I think teams will have to make 203 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: some tough decisions on what do you think is gonna 204 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: happen with Hendrickson. I don't think the Bengals are going 205 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: to try to extend this relationship. I think that's too 206 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: tricky given everything that's happened there. Do you think two 207 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: year deal? Can he get a thirty year out of 208 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a team? What do you think that's gonna look like? 209 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: I think in terms of guaranteed money, it'll be a 210 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: two year deal, whether they tack on another year, even 211 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: if it's a year and a half guaranteed. I think 212 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: he'll be good enough. He'll get really good money for 213 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: those first two years. But he's gonna be thirty two 214 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: years old, he's coming off of an injury. It's a 215 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: tricky one too, kind of like Daniel Jones, because you 216 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: know he wasn't as good last year, but literally the 217 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: year before he finished second in Defensive Player of the Year, 218 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: So you know he's only going to take so much 219 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: of a discount. There are plenty of teams out there 220 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: that could use kind of a get over the top 221 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: type of player, whether it's it's the Bucks, the Bills, 222 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: I can think of a lot of them, and there's 223 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: plenty of cap space out there to make him happy. 224 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: We'll see if Jerry Jones keeps up on the promise 225 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: of trying to spend more for agency. That could be 226 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: a fit there too, all right, Alec Pierce will see 227 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: if the Colts in the up pertaining him. Either way, 228 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: he's going to be top of the market. I think 229 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: his average yearly th is probably minimum of what the 230 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: franchise tag is what Pickens got, probably around twenty seven, right, 231 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: it could go higher than that, you. 232 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, I think that's about right. 233 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: Maybe if he re signs with the Colts it ends 234 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: up a little below that, but he's gonna get paid 235 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: as a real deal starter. 236 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: I mean, his numbers are crazy. 237 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: He's putting up nineteen seventies numbers where it's like thirty 238 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: nine catches for a thousand yards, Like you just don't 239 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: see that sort of yards per catch, and his speed 240 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: travels and they the Colts are the most fascinating team 241 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: to me. In that division because they have some cap issues, 242 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: they're trying to reshape their defense. There's a lot going 243 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: on there and so I do wonder how they're gonna 244 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: fit at all. Could they possibly trade a Michael Pittman. 245 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: We had him on our show NFL Daily and he 246 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: wasn't sure about his future. 247 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: Is one year left on his contract, So they're a team. 248 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: There's a handful of these teams out there that I 249 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: just think are going to be active in the trade market, 250 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: and they could be one of those teams. 251 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: Well, let's go there before we get to the Giants 252 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: specific way, who should we be keeping an eye in 253 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: terms of trades, maybe targeting guys at some of these 254 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: positions of weakness. We just saw the Browns do that right, 255 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: trading for Titus Howard then giving them a monster extension. 256 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: You saw the Jets acquiring your nose tackle, maybe thinking 257 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to find one else? 258 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: Are when they traded Jermaine Johnson with Devandre Sweat. Who 259 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: are the guys we should be keeping an eye and 260 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: in terms of the trade market over the next few. 261 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: Days, you know, Titans have so much cap space, but 262 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: among the best teams, the Chargers have a lot of flexibility. 263 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: I think that the Eagles and the Chiefs are going 264 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: to be active now. They could be the Chiefs specifically 265 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: sending players out. Say you know, I think the Eagles 266 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: are gonna be kind of a revolving door where they 267 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: make a big change this offseason in terms of some 268 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: of their big players. 269 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: They're going to wave goodbye to some free agents. I 270 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: think they could have trades. 271 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: Obviously, AJ Brown has been talked about, and then Minnesota 272 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: is another team that really stands out to me. Jonathan 273 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: Grenard is a player that could get traded. I think 274 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: they'll have some pretty high profile cuts. We already know 275 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: about Aaron Jones and Javon Hargrave, but who's another one, 276 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: t J. Hockinson. There is another guy that could go out. 277 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: And so they're a team that has legit cap issues. 278 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: The salary cap can always be finessed. But I think 279 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 3: they're gonna look at this year in this offseason. It's 280 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: kind of a just a not a rebuilding year, but 281 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: just a remodeling where their team comes back quite different 282 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: than they are right now. 283 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: Just want to have two wide receivers in the NFC 284 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: East as it affects the Giants any chance that Pickens 285 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: gets traded for a pick if they can't come to 286 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: a long term deal. I know the Cowboys just love 287 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: doing this through August, he keeps all interested. And then 288 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how the Eagles figure out the cap 289 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: situation with aj Brown. They're up against it as it is, 290 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: and the dead money on his deal. I just don't 291 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: know if they can. I know how he's a genius. 292 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: He can figure all this stuff out. I get it, 293 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: But I don't know how they figure out a way 294 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: to move him given the salary cap ramifications of it. 295 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Saints get a lot of attention for all 296 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: the void years and all the cap sort of massaging 297 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: that they do, but no one has attacked this void 298 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: market like Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lurry their owner. And 299 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: that really speaks to the amount of money that they're 300 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 3: willing to spend like an actual cash and it helps them. 301 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: It really does make a difference. All that said, I 302 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: agree with you. They would have, I think, have to 303 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: get a bigger offer than they're probably going to get 304 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: for AJ Brown to actually make it make sense before 305 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: June first. And this is something where we're getting in 306 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: the weeds with the rules. But you can make a 307 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: post June first cut before June first and just call 308 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: it that. 309 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: You can't do that with a trade. 310 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: So he could be someone that we're talking about this 311 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: into August and we just see how that plays out. Now, 312 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: for the Eagles, it would have to be a veteran 313 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: that you get back after June first, because, like why 314 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: you're trading for a draft pick after June first. They're 315 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: trying to win the Super Bowl. And so I think 316 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: how he was telling the truth that we're not going 317 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: to get better trading AJ Brown. It would take a 318 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: big offer. Maybe it's out there, Maybe there is a 319 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: first and a player out there for AJ Brown, but 320 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: I kind of doubt it. 321 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Right now, do you see teams being a little bit 322 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: more aggressive with the void? Yeers now trying to follow 323 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: that pattern with some of these teams, as you know, 324 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: because the cap goes up every year, right, so if 325 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you push the money down, the money isn't doesn't hurt 326 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: you as much as the cap expands, Right, Do you 327 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: think more teams are gonna try to start to do that? 328 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: And I even look at the Giants too, right, they 329 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: got John Horball here, they're not trying to do a 330 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: long term rebuild. They're trying to win pretty quickly. 331 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: Yes, And to get into some real nitty gritty, I 332 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,239 Speaker 3: look at the teams that have taken some outside investments, 333 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: you know, like selling a portion of the team. I 334 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: think that was a big deal for the Eagles, for instance, 335 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, of like selling ten percent 336 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: of the team and you get this cash infusion. And 337 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 3: those are the types of teams that are starting to 338 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: push these voyagers. So to answer your question, yes, I 339 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: mean a lot of the league is doing this, and 340 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: then there's some old school teams that don't. The Cowboys 341 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: actually are not a team that it's done at. The 342 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: Giants in the past have traditionally not been a team 343 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: that doesn't. The Chiefs are still kind of doing the 344 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: old model where they're just restructuring players and getting cat 345 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: you know, changing the cap that way. It's a it's 346 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: a little trickier to do it that way. And that's 347 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: why I mentioned the Chiefs specifically as a team that 348 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: I think could be trading. Maybe some surprising veterans like 349 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: a Trent McDuffie wouldn't wouldn't surprise me if he ends 350 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: up going out this offseason. 351 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just saw the Cowboys do that with Lamb, 352 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Tyler Smith and Prescott, right, and now the Giants they 353 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of cap space. If they want 354 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: to create it, they might have to do that with 355 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: the Brian burns Is of the world, the Dexter Lawrence 356 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: of the world, guys like that. So we'll see what 357 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: the Giants end up doing. So let's get to the 358 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: Giants players specifically here, Greg, Let's start the wide receiver's position. 359 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: As you mentioned this, if Pierce either signs quickly or 360 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: gets retained by the Colts, Wandell's right in that next 361 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: tier of wide receivers. What do you think we're looking 362 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: at in terms of market, How hungry your team's gonna 363 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: be for those guys? Given it as a very deep 364 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver class in the draft, what do you think 365 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: that wide receiver market's gonna look like. 366 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a guy like Wandale and Romeo Dobbs and 367 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: I would throw Rashiza, he'd maybe at the top of 368 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: this tier. You know, Mike Evans is a different category 369 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: but also very interesting. Look, I think you know he's 370 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: Wandell is in dressing because of the size and speed. 371 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: You're not sure how teams are gonna view him, but 372 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: that's probably a fifteen million dollar a year player minimum 373 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: with plenty of guarantees. Maybe the first two years are guaranteed. 374 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: I think your former coach, Brian Dable has already been 375 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: connected to him pretty strongly in Tennessee. And I think 376 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: if you're a team like the Titans, you look at 377 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: it it's like we need three weapons, all right, here's 378 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: one where we know what we're getting and if we 379 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: have to quote unquote overpay, that's how the market goes. 380 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: So I think about Christian Kirk a few years ago 381 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: getting seventeen million dollars a year like Wandell Robinson ultimately 382 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: is probably getting that plus. 383 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and I think then the 384 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: problem you're on to with the Giants, and I wonder 385 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: how you would just think about this strategy wise. You 386 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: don't know about my eligue neighbors with the injury, right, 387 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of really the ultimate thing that 388 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: nobody knows except really even the Giants medical staff doesn't 389 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: know in March what he's gonna look like in August 390 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: or September. If you can't match that dollar amount Robinson gets, 391 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: Where can you go to make sure you're not sitting 392 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: there with some gaping hole wide receiver with a second 393 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: year quarterback trying to make sure Dark plays well in 394 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: a second year in a new system. I don't know 395 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: if there's a clear answer there other than just saying, 396 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna plug a second round wide receiver 397 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: in there, which, as you know, it's very tough to 398 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: really depend on rookies, especially early in years. 399 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, now I said there's not depth. There are guys 400 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: like Juwan Jennings. Jalen Naylor from the Vikings is an 401 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: interesting kind of mid level guy, But those are the 402 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: types of players you're talking about Kendrick Bourne, guys who 403 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 3: are just kind of filling a gap, not a long 404 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: term solution. I think the more exciting angle would certainly 405 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: be via trade. So Jordan Addison is a name that's 406 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: been thrown out. Could the Vikings possibly trade him. I 407 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: don't think Jalen Waddle is gonna be available from the Dolphins, 408 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: but there's always a few surprises. DJ Moore from the 409 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 3: Bears is a player I absolutely think will be available, 410 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: So it's not just the free agency market. It could 411 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: be potentially a trade. 412 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: No, I think those are some good names. All right, 413 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: Let's go to the offensive line. We talked about offensive tackle. 414 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean there is just nobody there. Rashid Walker is 415 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: probably the number one guy, He's a left tackle. Then 416 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: you get into a bunch of guys that you have 417 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: questions about, and Jermaina Luminor I think is probably right 418 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: at the top of that list. And we saw last 419 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: year I wrote him down, so I had him in 420 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: front of me. Dan Moore got a four year, eighty 421 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: two million dollar contract, Jalen Moore got a two year, 422 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar contract. He wasn't even a starter when 423 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: he got signed to that contract by the Chiefs. So 424 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: I imagine this offensive tackle market is probably gonna be 425 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: very aggressive. 426 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really illumina or. 427 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 3: Braden Smith is a right tackle from the Colts who 428 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 3: thought about retirement a couple of years ago and has 429 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: a neck injury. So those are some pretty big red flags. 430 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: But his tape is good. And Jwan Taylor is now 431 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: available who played a lot for the Chiefs, was overpaid 432 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: by them, but he'll get a job and' that's like 433 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: it for starting level guys in terms of just locked 434 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: in and so Illuminaur. I don't think is a guy 435 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: that the rest of the league is gonna view as 436 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: as highly as I do and maybe even Giants fans do, 437 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: because to me, he played really well. I'm not a 438 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: trades guy, not necessarily like a dynamic guy in the 439 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: running game, but he can pass protect. He's had a 440 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: good career, and so I don't think he'll quite get 441 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: dan more money because of his age, but he's going 442 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: to get a starting job and it'll be a really 443 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: great success story for a guy, as you guys know, 444 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: who has bounced around a little found a home with 445 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: the Giants, and it'll be I think his best contract 446 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: that he's received as a pro. 447 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 448 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: of crunch time football, I'm your Matt. But if you're 449 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: wondering about a long term financial plan, you should talk 450 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: to Citizens. Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd 451 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: like to learn about a Mollia routine. Yes, I knew 452 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: I could help make sense of your money with Citizens. Yeah, 453 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: and look, he has to take advantage. He's thirty one. 454 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: This is like the one chance from the really cash 455 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: in here, So he's got to do it, and I 456 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: guess My question is that I guess the Giants then 457 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: they go to Marcus Bow because to your point you 458 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: mentioned wide receiver, that you can always find wide receivers 459 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, it's not that. And the Giants finally put 460 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: together a pretty good unit last year on the offensive line, 461 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: they played fairly well. Well if you let a lumin 462 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: or walk Greg Van Roan, their starting right guard, we 463 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: will see what his situation ends up being. I think 464 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: then putting together a good offensive line becomes really really hard. 465 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: It does, and it just speaks to how important the 466 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: coaching is gonna be. 467 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: The offensive line coach obviously, which. 468 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: They believe in, and Matt Nagy that it just means 469 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: so much, and I'm with you. I had that take 470 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: even going back to twenty twenty four. You know, before 471 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas was hurt. I was like, actually, the Giants 472 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: finally have a pretty good offensive line, good enough, and 473 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: last year I think they got even better obviously because 474 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: you had a healthy Andrew Thomas and you need that 475 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: more than anything. And that's where you're counting on coaching 476 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: and the help that John Harbaugh will have and obviously 477 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: Joe Shane here and finding the right players. I look 478 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: at what Buffalo did a few years ago. If you 479 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: think about the top of the guard market right now, 480 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: it's David Edwards and the center is Connor McGovern. Those 481 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: were guys that were kind of afterthoughts and free agency 482 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: that they picked up from other teams. 483 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: One was even you know, very late in free agency, 484 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: like at the. 485 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 3: End of the summer and turned into guys who are 486 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: now gonna get paid twenty million dollars or something like that. 487 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: And so it's always like you're crossing your fingers. But 488 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: offensive line especially, I always think about it like bullpens 489 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: in baseball. 490 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: You just don't know until it happens. 491 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: And yet it's gonna make or break your team and 492 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: coaching and just it all coming together. It's everything, and 493 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: you're right, you're probably not gonna be it's not gonna 494 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: be like names that you look at and that you're 495 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: gonna be thinking, this is a great group going into 496 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: the year most likely. 497 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, on like baseball, you can't just bring up 498 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: some kid from Double A that's a starter, could have 499 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: verted it into a reliever. He throws ninety eight and 500 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: you put it in there for two winnings. Every couple 501 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: of days. Two other positions. I would hit on you 502 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: with a guard. You mentioned that the Giants could have 503 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: a whole right guard trying to figure out what they're 504 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: gonna do there. How deep is that guard? Morgan to 505 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: be looking for somebody that maybe is kind of like 506 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: a middle of the road. You spend in, you know, 507 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: eight nine million on the player and he can give 508 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: you solid production as a guard. 509 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's definitely deeper. There's guys who are 510 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: gonna get paid a lot of money, like Zion Johnson 511 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: from the Chargers, David Edwards I mentioned from the Bills. 512 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: I heard he's gonna get a lot. Isaac Samalu from 513 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: the Steelers might get a decent amount. But then there's 514 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: other guys who can just help you. Kevin Zeitler, who's 515 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: a veteran out there, Sean Ryan from the Packers. 516 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: Like that. 517 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: You got some ex Browns in the mix, like Wyatt, 518 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: Teller and Potonio. There are players Van Roten is kind 519 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: of lower on that list, but just guys that I think. 520 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: You can find. 521 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: And so that's where your front office, your pro personnel 522 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: department's got to stand out and make sure you find 523 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 3: the right fit, maybe the right connection with the coaches 524 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: that you have. But I do think you can find 525 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: at least one solid starting guard without kind of blowing 526 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: out your budget. 527 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: All right, A couple more linebacker Bobby Okak. There are 528 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: reports that the Giants might move on from him. We'll 529 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: see if they actually do. Mike McFadden's are free agent. 530 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: He's the Giants don't have any starting inside linebackers. What 531 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: do you think of the off ball linebacking crew in 532 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: terms of what's availab Obviously Devin Lloyd's going to be 533 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: at the top of that market. 534 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I'm really curious to see his market. 535 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: I really like him. I think there's a few teams 536 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: that really like him. I think there's varying opinions on him, 537 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: so we'll see, like how high he goes. But Nikoby 538 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: Dean is the guy teams that are excited about late. 539 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: Leo Chanel from the Chiefs is another guy. And then 540 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: I think what the Giants could do here, at least 541 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: for one of their spots is there's a lot of 542 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: solid veteran players out there and Alex Angelonia, do Mario Davis, 543 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: even in Alex Singleton, Eric Wilson from the Vikings, Matt 544 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: Malana from the Built. There are names there. I think 545 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: that's where it matches up pretty well. So if you 546 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 3: can draft a linebacker, maybe in the middle rounds, find 547 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: a you know, off ball linebacker, whether it's at the 548 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: top of the market or not, it usually doesn't cost 549 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: as much at that position. 550 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: I think free agency is a good spot to find 551 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: those guys. 552 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: And maybe Sonny Styles is there at number five. Who knows, 553 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: that could always be an option to corner you at. 554 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Cordel Flott pretty high on your list, and I love you. 555 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: I loved your caption. Cordol Flock gave us no choice 556 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: but to put him this high in or list because 557 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: he just played too well. I love that though. It 558 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: was hilarious because I think you're right and this is 559 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: not a great corner group in free agency either, at 560 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: least in my opinion. I mean, could he be looking 561 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: at twelve to fifteen, ten to thirteen somewhere in that area. 562 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think he's gonna get over ten million 563 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: dollars a year. There's a handful of the younger guys 564 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: that's who teams want to pay. So Alante Taylor is 565 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: another name probably above him, a little bit Buster Brown, 566 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: Montic Brown from the Jagres, maybe a name a little 567 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 3: bit below him from what I've heard around the league, 568 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: and then it's kind of picked your flavor. But if 569 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: you have a guy who's played a lot, he earned 570 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: his way into that job and onto my list. Like 571 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: I mentioned, there's not that many big names. Jalen Watson 572 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: from the Chiefs, he'll get paid decent money. Jamel Dean 573 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: is a little older, but he'll get a decent contract 574 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: from the Bucks. And then after that Flat is in 575 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: that mix. I heard his name a lot in Indianapolis. 576 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: I think that's all you need is two or three 577 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: teams to be like, yeah, we would play him a 578 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 3: thousand snaps, and I think he earned that last year. 579 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: I think it's surprised the Giants. Maybe a little bit 580 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: surprised me too, but he had a really nice season. 581 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: A lot of noise that the Giants might be in. 582 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: On the running back group you mentioned, it's very deep. 583 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: If you don't want to go high, if you don't 584 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: want to spend big, I mean, Kenneth Walker is going 585 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: to be on the top of that list. Bristol, as 586 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned, probably not gonna end up being available Travis 587 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Atns in that mix, there's some guys down those like 588 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell's out there. Who are some of the guys 589 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: that you could be good value gets at that position 590 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: this offseason. 591 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: I love Gainwell, I like Rashad White. 592 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of who matches up well with 593 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: you know, Cam Skataboo already being there, because Tyler Algiers 594 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: is not to me, He's almost a similar sort of 595 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: do everything, really rugged tough runner. But I think he's 596 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: going to get a better contract than people think. Rassad 597 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: White I think would be a fun one to me. 598 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: He came up out of the draft as a receiver 599 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: and he is dynamic in pass protection and catching the ball, 600 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: and I think that's what Kenneth Gainwell. 601 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Can do too. 602 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: I mean, his Steelers teammates voted Kenneth Ganwell the team 603 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: MVP last year, which maybe says a lot about the Steelers. 604 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 3: But some of those kind of secondary running backs two 605 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: you guys have won. He's coming off an injury, so 606 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: it does make sense to me that they would be 607 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: in the market for one. 608 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: All right, and final question, how do you think John 609 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Harbaugh is gonna want to approach this in conjunction with 610 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Joe Shane in terms of free agency, how quickly he's 611 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna want to move. We've seen when head coaches in 612 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: the past have had heavy influence on free agency decisions, 613 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: a lot of times teams are very aggressive. So what 614 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: do you think John Harbaugh's kind of just general approach 615 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: is going to be to free agency in his first 616 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: year in the Giants. 617 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be aggressive. 618 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: You look at the successive first year head coaches lately, 619 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: including with his brother who had a good first season 620 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: with the Chargers. You have a lot of familiarity with 621 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: Harbaugh with some of these players around the league because 622 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 3: he's coached for so long. His assistants, who aren't all 623 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: coming from Baltimore, have familiarity with these players, and that's 624 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: when you feel like at your most confident. So I 625 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: think they're not going to take a commander's approach where 626 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: it's really betting on the old guys. But I think 627 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: it'll be somewhere between that and being patient, where yeah, 628 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna look to fill a lot of 629 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: holes while they establish their core players of young players 630 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: in the Harbaugh era, because why not like they have 631 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: some really good high level players. 632 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I. 633 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: Think John Harbaugh was excited about the Giants job versus 634 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 3: a couple of the ones out there, that they have 635 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: some good high level players that make you think you 636 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: can compete right away. 637 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Do you think they can do enough so that they're 638 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: in that you know in the hunt graphic when you 639 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: get to like the middle of December. 640 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, you're talking to a guy who thought they would 641 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: be there last year. I think I. 642 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, we do a draft on our show, The 643 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: Over Underdraft where we take like overs and unders, and 644 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: they were one of my top picks was taking the 645 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Giants over. So I was very wrong on that, but 646 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: it was because of what I said that they have 647 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: some core, foundational, top level talent. And then I like 648 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 3: the lines. Whenever I look for a surprise team, I 649 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 3: just look, all right, who's pretty good if you add 650 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: up the offensive line and defensive line, if you if 651 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: you made those rankings right now, and I think the 652 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: Giants are still pretty high on that list. So yes, 653 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: to answer your question, I think they absolutely can be 654 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: just in the mix. 655 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: That's all I thought they would be. 656 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 3: Last year was an eight to nine win type of team, 657 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: and I think they can, with the right moves, be 658 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: that type of team this year. 659 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: For sure. Are you a dore believer or do you do? 660 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: You still need to show. 661 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: You more more of a believer than I was. I 662 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: was going into the draft. I was kind of like, 663 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: I gotta see it, And after this year, I feel 664 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: like I saw it more than maybe conventional wisdom is 665 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: even saying. After this year, I was really impressed overall. 666 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: I thought the game was not too fast for him. 667 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: Obviously there's things to improve on. He's an impressive kid. 668 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: I spoke to him at the super Bowl, but it's 669 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: more about just his film. I thought it was really 670 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: good for a rookie, and if you can do that 671 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: as a rookie, you're only gonna get better, all. 672 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Right, Greg, tell the folks everything you're doing here with 673 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: free agency and your you can just kick derk Dane 674 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: Drum out of the car, put him in front of 675 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: his college tape, get it out of here, let him watch. 676 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of seventh round guys from you know, 677 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Norfolk State, and you can and this is this is 678 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: your time, now work, this. 679 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: Is my season, Like my favorite two weeks of the season, 680 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: although we are taping our show's weekly with DJ, so 681 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: that's forties and free Agents. 682 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, NFL Daily. 683 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: It's in the name, so we're gonna be live on 684 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: the NFL channel on your TV, but also live on 685 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: YouTube and just in your ears for podcasts every day 686 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: really through Free Agency. 687 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: Greg, appreciate the time today, man, Thanks so much. This 688 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: was fun. 689 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, great talking here. 690 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: We thank Greg Rosenvel for joining us right here on 691 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: The Giants Total Podcast presented by Citizens, the official Bank 692 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: of the Giants. I am John Schmeilk, coming to you 693 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: from the Hackensack, Maritine Hills podcast studio. Keep getting better. 694 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody,