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Speaker 2: this on this episode. I've done a few interviews I
Speaker 2: wanted at the air.
Speaker 3: But I know what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 2: Everybody's talking about Hurricane Hallaane, the.
Speaker 1: Election, and always Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: You know it.
Speaker 2: He probably is the most talked about character in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's.
Speaker 2: A last name more known in the world today than Trump.
Speaker 1: It's incredible to watch over these years just all that
Speaker 1: has happened.
Speaker 2: We're talking impeach me, We're talking about trials, We're talking
Speaker 2: about a number of issues that have plagged and has
Speaker 2: handicapped Trump.
Speaker 3: They've tried to throw them in jail.
Speaker 2: They've tried that Russian propaganda, the Russian Gate, where they
Speaker 2: trumped up.
Speaker 1: Charges that he was working with the Russians.
Speaker 2: They spent probably fifty sixty seventy one hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: trying to make this case and that didn't work.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen a man more.
Speaker 2: Viserted and tried to annihilate in the media than any
Speaker 2: other part. I thought, you know, Milcael, Max Martin, Luther King, Lewis,
Speaker 2: Ferri Khan, Elijah Muhammad, the corn Tail pro program with
Speaker 2: Jago Hoover.
Speaker 1: And all the FBI cointail programs that tried to undermine them.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was worse. I'm be honest, I've.
Speaker 2: Never seen a white being there be more persecuted than
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in my lifetime. No have I ever read
Speaker 2: any other figure that has been more persecuted than Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not trying to defend.
Speaker 2: I mean, people love him, people hate him. He's probably
Speaker 2: the most loved white man in America, and he's also
Speaker 2: the most hated white man probably in America.
Speaker 1: If not the world.
Speaker 2: There's a ninety eight percent of all the negative coverage,
Speaker 2: all the information when they talk about Trump is ninety
Speaker 2: eight percent.
Speaker 1: I saw the Harvard Poles and all.
Speaker 3: These other poles.
Speaker 2: They say ninety eight percent of all the coverage on
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is negative.
Speaker 1: Negative.
Speaker 3: He has been convicted in a court of law in New.
Speaker 2: York, and anytime anybody embraces Trump, they're persecuted, they're shamed that.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot so when they survey in,
Speaker 2: they don't want to tell you that they with Trump.
Speaker 2: They don't want to tell you that they're gonna vote
Speaker 2: for them, They're gonna vote their economy. They don't want
Speaker 2: to tell you that some of the issues that they
Speaker 2: stand with Trump, they don't want to tell you that
Speaker 2: they agree. Like I talk to a lot of black
Speaker 2: people right not about Trump, but about the word success. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know too many people that I've come across
Speaker 2: that has created a real estate being their empire as
Speaker 2: well as a social media being their business. You throw
Speaker 2: Trump off the social media, he creates his own social media,
Speaker 2: and it's evaluation of his social media truth.
Speaker 1: Social is in the beings now.
Speaker 2: To me, you gotta study that success because it's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who has thrown off social media. Aleix Jones,
Speaker 2: Farry Kahn, a whole lot of people, and they eat
Speaker 2: built no social.
Speaker 1: Media platform, no media outlet to get their voice and
Speaker 1: their message and their word out.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm afraid about this freedom of speech because
Speaker 2: I think it's an assault on freedom of speech. We
Speaker 2: don't have to like what you say. Like, if you
Speaker 2: don't like what I'm saying, you could turn the channel.
Speaker 2: But to say I shouldn't have a right to say it,
Speaker 2: I think it's just our right wrong censorship. I don't
Speaker 2: believe in censorship. I believe in age appropriate reading or
Speaker 2: things you know, But I don't believe that you should
Speaker 2: be censoring people because you don't like what they say.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff I don't like being said,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean I just turned the channel, or
Speaker 2: change or change the book. Why sit there and try
Speaker 2: to persecute people, shame people for how they.
Speaker 3: Think they want to.
Speaker 2: I do believe there's a movement here just trying to
Speaker 2: silence people who think different and think out the box.
Speaker 1: There never would have been a Martin.
Speaker 2: Luther King, there never would have been milcaelm X, there
Speaker 2: never would have been anybody who stands up for justice.
Speaker 1: If you silence free.
Speaker 2: That's the bedrock principle, the First Amendment rights, the Bill
Speaker 2: of Rights in America.
Speaker 1: To me, that's what make America different.
Speaker 2: From any other nation on the planet. The right to
Speaker 2: say what you believe and think. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that there's not consequences because you know that's being unrealistic.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is you should have a right
Speaker 2: to say it, and like freedom doesn't happen without consequences.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that there's no consequence for saying certain things.
Speaker 2: There are limits, but you should be allowed to say
Speaker 2: it and not be censored because you don't like what
Speaker 2: a person say.
Speaker 1: That's a difference like this, ain't.
Speaker 2: Yelling fire in a theater and causing a riot and
Speaker 2: people get hurt. You know, yeah, that's a you know
Speaker 2: you the free speech don't protect that. No, these people
Speaker 2: who want to go on college cap and just speak,
Speaker 2: you know that, people who disagree with climate change and
Speaker 2: you being silenced because they don't want you to speak
Speaker 2: your mind and your.
Speaker 3: Heart about that.
Speaker 2: There are people we'll get certain things about abortion and
Speaker 2: a being attacked for speaking in mind that people think different.
Speaker 1: About the war in Israel, the war in Russia.
Speaker 2: But if you think different, what happens is you'll persecutre
Speaker 2: There people who think certain things, believe in reparations.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't you have a right to talk about it.
Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with it, but you can't
Speaker 2: say America and I did episode on reparation. Man, This
Speaker 2: in the eighty something trillion dollars is what they calculate
Speaker 2: from all the horrific attacks and murders and rapes and
Speaker 2: oppression that has taken place for centuries in America, and
Speaker 2: the Constitution reduced black people to property knowing that they
Speaker 2: knew we were human beings, and they want to act
Speaker 2: as though the diamagions that was done.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not violid. You know, there's no statute
Speaker 1: of limitation on rape, on murder, on murder, onslavement. There's
Speaker 1: no stat limitation. You did what you did.
Speaker 2: And free education and free health care is not payment
Speaker 2: for generational destruction. We have to have generational change for
Speaker 2: enough to improve the quality of life of black people
Speaker 2: and the former enslavers and slaves of America. And that's
Speaker 2: a legitimate conversation that needs to be had, whether you
Speaker 2: agree with it or not. But it's not a looney
Speaker 2: tune subject.
Speaker 1: No, there there.
Speaker 3: It is a.
Speaker 1: Concrete fact that.
Speaker 2: Enslaving occurred in America and that black people was oppressed
Speaker 2: and a slave for centuries and murdered and raped and oppressed.
Speaker 2: So this is a legitimate legal conversation in time is
Speaker 2: not going to erase that fact. You can try to erase,
Speaker 2: but it ain't all right. And there are people suffering
Speaker 2: in America. Traumatic slavery syndrome exists, just like the same
Speaker 2: trauma that exists when people go to war and people
Speaker 2: are suffering, We have trauma. A lot of Black people
Speaker 2: are still suffering from trauma. You know, when PDD beat Cassie,
Speaker 2: that's traumatic slavery being passed on. You don't beat down
Speaker 2: no woman like that, But that's how black people was
Speaker 2: beat down, and our women was beat down doing slavery.
Speaker 1: The slave master beat our.
Speaker 2: Women like that in front of the men, and a
Speaker 2: lot of men think that that's the way to deal
Speaker 2: with that woman and control that woman. Just because a
Speaker 2: lot of this domestic violence just happening all across in
Speaker 2: the black community.
Speaker 1: There's a lot has to do with trauma from slavery.
Speaker 2: People snapping ingrams, thing impediments keeping us from change, and
Speaker 2: it has to be addressed. These are a lot of
Speaker 2: terminal mental issues that have to be addressed that are
Speaker 2: not being and it's all over this country. And all
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm not excusing Big B Diddy, but what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is is the actors though the effects of
Speaker 2: slavery from generation the generation telling black people there nothing,
Speaker 2: ain't gonna never do nothing, ain't gonna never be nothing,
Speaker 2: And all you're supposed to do is take this black
Speaker 2: job we created, which is digging it, shoveling shit, picking
Speaker 2: up garbage that you can't be. You know, That's what
Speaker 2: when Obama won president, that's why that was so important
Speaker 2: because it showed black people you don't have to do
Speaker 2: all those set aside black jobs that are in America.
Speaker 2: You can be something different. You could be the doctor,
Speaker 2: you can be the engineer. You could be the President
Speaker 2: of America. You could be you know, the person who's
Speaker 2: over all the museums and the arch You can be
Speaker 2: over telecommunicator, you could be a CEO.
Speaker 1: You could be all those great things in America.
Speaker 2: And you don't have to be just a trash truck
Speaker 2: driver and shoveling shit and picking up cotton and all
Speaker 2: the the jobs that nobody want to do. You know,
Speaker 2: like at these filtering plays, you know people have to
Speaker 2: jump in the shit and fix a lot of those
Speaker 2: filtering places where all the sanitizer, all the ways go to.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do all that you could do
Speaker 2: other things. And I think that that's a conversation that
Speaker 2: gotta be had, not not have, because people tend to
Speaker 2: think that all we bent over backwards for these black
Speaker 2: folks and they still complaining, you ain't white.
Speaker 1: America ain't been over backwards for no man.
Speaker 2: Black people are resilient and with black excellence is occur
Speaker 2: because of all the sacrifices that we made. No matter
Speaker 2: what obstacles that were put in our way.
Speaker 1: We over We did what we.
Speaker 4: Needed to do to become that lawyer in that doctor,
Speaker 4: despite like in the aerospace hidden figures, despite Katherine Johnson,
Speaker 4: the human computer people going wanted to work on IBM machines.
Speaker 1: I know the history. I'm a bookstore. We are resilience
Speaker 1: Black people, and we are stepped up. We have forged through.
Speaker 3: The oppression and the raciystem.
Speaker 1: And they write books about how we.
Speaker 2: Find joy black joy despite everything that we've been through.
Speaker 3: And all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Is is the topics of the day are voting and
Speaker 2: voting got power.
Speaker 1: The only gonna get that twisted.
Speaker 2: Now, that's why they spend a lot of money, people
Speaker 2: trying to control the flow of money.
Speaker 1: The cold flow of these contracts.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money involved, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: power involved.
Speaker 1: But black folks typically.
Speaker 2: We don't know who really to vote for because they
Speaker 2: use our vote to elect their officials and they do
Speaker 2: very little for us. And that's why it's disheartening because
Speaker 2: we don't seem to make progress that we vote. We
Speaker 2: got more politicians in America than any other culture, ethnicity,
Speaker 2: or group, and yet over ten thousand black politicians and
Speaker 2: yet nothing has changed. And that's been going on since
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: So what's the problem. The problem is there is no
Speaker 1: black agenda, There is no real help.
Speaker 2: They dangle what they want to do, but don't do
Speaker 2: once we vote them in power.
Speaker 1: It's a problem.
Speaker 2: I think all black people should be independent. Make people
Speaker 2: do for us to get our vote. We should be independent.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't vote, but we need to learn
Speaker 2: how to vote. We need to learn that that that
Speaker 2: we can have so much more and do so much more.
Speaker 2: So we gotta work on. Okay, let me get back
Speaker 2: to this. I'm talking to black male were taxing.
Speaker 3: Were talking. He has his own little radio program as.
Speaker 2: Well, and we're talking about the meaning of success, all right,
Speaker 2: and I just said, listen, man. The basic definition is
Speaker 2: what Webster says to a com it's your goal. If
Speaker 2: I set out to win the United States presidency and
Speaker 2: I win, that's success.
Speaker 3: Now if I set out.
Speaker 1: To create a being their company and I do it.
Speaker 3: That's success.
Speaker 2: And if I create too being their companies, that's double success.
Speaker 2: And I said that the brother, how do you define success?
Speaker 2: And he went off to tell me it's based upon
Speaker 2: mals and ethics, And I said, brother, that's not the dictionary.
Speaker 1: It's just the compass of goal. If America set out
Speaker 1: to build a new world, did they do it? Yes?
Speaker 1: Did they enslave people to do it? Yet?
Speaker 2: Did they commit genocide on the Yes? But that don't
Speaker 2: have nothing to do with the fact.
Speaker 1: That's more ethic.
Speaker 2: That's some methodology and tactics and strategies that they used
Speaker 2: that allowed them to be successful. But they are successful
Speaker 2: regardless of the oppression, regardless of the murders and the
Speaker 2: rape and the slave and the genocide of the Indians.
Speaker 2: They America, the new world was built, and the greatest
Speaker 2: nation on the planet was a stop of the United
Speaker 2: States of America, the biggest economy in the world.
Speaker 3: The.
Speaker 2: Most cherished nation on the planet, got more nuclear weapons,
Speaker 2: more technological advantages. Just you know, hey, we could debate morality,
Speaker 2: we could debate ethics, but that don't have nothing to
Speaker 2: do with if you successful or not.
Speaker 3: The worst success.
Speaker 2: Simply means the accomplished gold and they don't talk about
Speaker 2: the tactics and the strategies that you implement.
Speaker 1: And they might be horrifying, and they are.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, you can't tell me Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: not successful.
Speaker 1: I don't care how much you hate them.
Speaker 2: This dude built to being their companies, a real estate
Speaker 2: empire being their company, and a true social media that's success.
Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not, that's success and that
Speaker 1: need to be study.
Speaker 2: Because he didn't complain about being thrown off of social media.
Speaker 1: He created his own. I respect that. I don't have
Speaker 1: to agree with him in every element. But the man
Speaker 1: is successful.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be studied both in the political, business and
Speaker 2: marketing world, probably for centuries because he's.
Speaker 3: Like an anominee outlier.
Speaker 1: I mean, the man is a winner.
Speaker 2: And the reality is that we have to study success,
Speaker 2: whether we like the methods or not.
Speaker 1: The thing is that's how you learn. You learn through
Speaker 1: your failures and you learn through.
Speaker 2: People winning and accomplishing and evolving into what we consider success.
Speaker 1: You gotta study that.
Speaker 2: Sitting around here, I'm debating him on whether or not
Speaker 2: Trump is success. I said, man, listen, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: be deceived. You don't get to where you got. That
Speaker 2: man smarter than me, ain't even put together.
Speaker 1: I ain't no being there.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is he is. You can't be stupid
Speaker 2: and be that successful, all right. No one gets to
Speaker 2: the levels they got and say they're stupid.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: You got to be have some measure of intelligence, can't.
Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with with his method, but
Speaker 2: the point is you can't say the man not successful.
Speaker 1: That's the point you're deceiving yourself.
Speaker 2: And that's called deception intelligence when you deceive your own
Speaker 2: self to rationalize your belief. And that's what a lot
Speaker 2: of people are doing because they basing it on emotion
Speaker 2: and not actual fight.
Speaker 1: It's a fight the man is a being there. It's
Speaker 1: a fight that he created to be in their companies.
Speaker 2: It's a fight that the man ain't stupid. It's a
Speaker 2: fight that he's highly intelligent. Whether you agree with him
Speaker 2: or not. It's a fight that the dude has charisma. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: how could you get hundreds of thousands of people to
Speaker 2: come out.
Speaker 1: And listen to him?
Speaker 2: All Right, you could say that he's off script and
Speaker 2: all that. The point is the man is entertaining. People
Speaker 2: come out.
Speaker 1: They love him. He's the most loved.
Speaker 2: Person in American also probably the most hated in America,
Speaker 2: if not the world.
Speaker 1: His name is recognized all over the world. And I'm just.
Speaker 2: Calling a spade a spade. I'm not trying to defend them.
Speaker 2: I don't have to defend him. He could defend his
Speaker 2: own stuff. He do quite well at that. But the
Speaker 2: point I'm talking about is the man is successful, and
Speaker 2: I'm not here to sit here and say he not.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna drink that kool aid and deceive myself.
Speaker 2: I know what success is, and there are a lot
Speaker 2: of things in America that are successful that I don't
Speaker 2: agree with, but they're successful at it. You know, the
Speaker 2: aerospace industry, well, the well, I mean, the military industrial
Speaker 2: complict is second to none in the world. But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't agree with all these weapons of mass destruction
Speaker 2: because people don't build these weapons, not the intend to
Speaker 2: use them if they have to.
Speaker 3: So I'm concerned about that.
Speaker 2: That's why I think last week I said what's more
Speaker 2: likely to kill humanity, climate change or nuclear weapons? I
Speaker 2: think nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: I think that humanity has shown.
Speaker 2: Us that debauchery and the treachery and the onslaught and
Speaker 2: the wickedness and the chicanery that they will do in
Speaker 2: order to maintain power. History has shown us that through
Speaker 2: the wars and through slaughter, I mean, the brutality then
Speaker 2: I've witnessed from humanity, you know, is second to none.
Speaker 2: And all I'm saying, I think is likely that the
Speaker 2: Earth will be destroyed by nuclear before climate can change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can wait around and.
Speaker 2: Think that the existential threat to humanity is climate control.
Speaker 3: Over all these.
Speaker 2: New weapons, man, you know that you go again drinking
Speaker 2: that kool aid, drinking that kool aid.
Speaker 1: They're you know, they are severe wars.
Speaker 2: Russia's threatened to use in this proxy war where Ukraine.
Speaker 2: America's over there fighting Russia through Ukraine. They threatened if
Speaker 2: they do certain things that they gonna.
Speaker 1: Use nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, they ain't build these weapons just for deterrent.
Speaker 2: They built them that they would use them. And all
Speaker 2: I'm saying is is I am not gonna drink that
Speaker 2: kool aid and think that something's gonna take another hundred
Speaker 2: to a thousand years to affect humanity on the Earth
Speaker 2: like climate could change? Is gonna destroy your manity? Before
Speaker 2: these weapons are mass extracting the human beings, have they
Speaker 2: have done acts of brutality, like slavery, like wars, Come
Speaker 2: on man. Leaders of this world have no problem trying
Speaker 2: to maintain power, and they would draw bombs on.
Speaker 1: People in order to to do it.
Speaker 2: Hiroshima Knakasaki, two atomic bombs dropped on civilians. All right,
Speaker 2: People said, oh, well, we would have lost more. Look
Speaker 2: at the rationalize. We would have lost more trying to
Speaker 2: go and do a land invasion, So we just dropped
Speaker 2: the bombs of terror and then get them to.
Speaker 3: Surrender. See the rationale.
Speaker 2: See that that they terrorized them, that's terror. The America
Speaker 2: dropped two nuclear bombs on the Japanese. And don't ever
Speaker 2: think they're gonna forget that you dropped them on civilians.
Speaker 2: And yet they justified, they rationalized, they would rationalize using
Speaker 2: these weapons.
Speaker 3: So don't be.
Speaker 2: Fooled that that's what is a threat to humanity before
Speaker 2: climate change and making life hard by making everything electric
Speaker 2: and we don't even have electric grid power going out
Speaker 2: mentally apolergies one out the.
Speaker 3: Other day for ours.
Speaker 2: So we got some serious issues to solve and we
Speaker 2: need to get to it. But anyway, this election is
Speaker 2: coming up. Vote your conscious, don't be shamed, and.
Speaker 3: Vote who you think.
Speaker 2: Uh they want somebody else want you to vote for.
Speaker 2: You vote for who you think is best for your site.
Speaker 3: But study the facts.
Speaker 1: Once again, don't be shamed. All these.
Speaker 2: People try to put pressure on you to vote for
Speaker 2: that candidate. But you vote for a person by studying
Speaker 2: the facts and what can and what can.
Speaker 3: Benefit you the most.
Speaker 2: Like I said, neither party has done much for black people,
Speaker 2: for Black America. They just use us as cannon fire
Speaker 2: to get into power and they don't do much. And
Speaker 2: I don't and I don't expect that to change. But
Speaker 2: h but generally, uh, there might be some perks there
Speaker 2: might come out of this. If you vote for the
Speaker 2: right person, there might be some benefits. I know one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of this system.
Speaker 2: Every time I go to the grocery, story time I
Speaker 2: go to the supermarket, I'm reminded of bidynomics. Bidynomics is
Speaker 2: a A is an inflation buster, which is a which
Speaker 2: destroys countries and dissolves people's wealth. This inflation in a Maria,
Speaker 2: it costs around twenty eight thousand dollars that had the
Speaker 2: same lifestyle that did three years ago. So if you
Speaker 2: want more of that, you know who to vote for.
Speaker 2: If you want less of that, you know who to
Speaker 2: vote for. Because you can't say when Trump was in
Speaker 2: office that inflation was low and his tricker down economics
Speaker 2: where businesses received tax breaks and they created more jobs
Speaker 2: and expand their business brand and things like that didn't
Speaker 2: benefit America and people at that time. You know, people
Speaker 2: say trigger now don't work. Well, we got Reagan and
Speaker 2: we got Trump to show.
Speaker 3: That it does.
Speaker 2: And that tax cut it helped a lot. You could
Speaker 2: disagree with it, but the point is it helped a lot.
Speaker 2: Trump using terms as a negotiation tactic helped. I mean
Speaker 2: he got a business mind. I mean unlike most politicians.
Speaker 2: All they are as lawyers and prosecutors, they don't have
Speaker 2: no business mind.
Speaker 1: They try to surround themselves.
Speaker 2: With these people, but a lot of these people they
Speaker 2: don't even have businesses themselves. They theorized on economics. They theorize, Well,
Speaker 2: we have actual facts that when Reagan was in office
Speaker 2: to help bring America out of his bad situation with
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, and when Trump was in office, the economy
Speaker 2: was on fire.
Speaker 1: You know, he said, drill, baby, drill. Well you know what,
Speaker 1: let's drill.
Speaker 2: Let's create these jobs, let's bring these taxes down, let's go.
Speaker 2: I want to see America's thrive and America thrive, Americans thrive,
Speaker 2: and America thrive, and.
Speaker 1: So let's go. Drill, baby, drill.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. I'm not against that. Just do
Speaker 2: it safe and not reckless, you know, And I think
Speaker 2: that could be done.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So anyway, vote who you think, so vote your conscious,
Speaker 2: vote who you think is your best candidate. But there
Speaker 2: would be no great white hope. None that is never
Speaker 2: going to happen. There is no white savior. If you
Speaker 2: want to save yourself, that means you gotta do the work.
Speaker 2: You gotta study, sacrifice, do the work. Change happened when
Speaker 2: you change your thoughts. There are plenty books out here
Speaker 2: to help you change your thoughts, change the way you
Speaker 2: see things, and help you.
Speaker 1: To be successful. But there would be no great white
Speaker 1: hope being voted in.
Speaker 2: That is not how change your curs. That is not
Speaker 2: how power transforms. That is not how all the problems
Speaker 2: that are affecting underserved communities across the nation, particularly Black communities.
Speaker 2: That is not how change is going to be lasting.
Speaker 2: No politician is going to be able to do for
Speaker 2: you what you can do for yourself, So there would.
Speaker 1: Be no You're not voting for no great white hope.
Speaker 2: You're voting for some policy changes that might help you
Speaker 2: and your daily lives, but the major.
Speaker 3: Changes you got to do the work. You got to
Speaker 3: do the work.
Speaker 1: We have to make a generational change, and we have
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 3: No one else can do it.
Speaker 2: So don't be deceived thinking that just because you vote
Speaker 2: that all of a sudden, overnight, you're gonna see drastic
Speaker 2: changes in your communities. Nah, I don't expect that. That's unrealistic.
Speaker 2: You know, we ain't get here overnight, and it ain't
Speaker 2: gonna change overnight. But if black people unite and pull
Speaker 2: money together, we can get some lasting change, some institutional changes,
Speaker 2: and we can change our community forever.
Speaker 3: But we gotta unite in.
Speaker 2: The community, pull our money together. Twenty dollars a day
Speaker 2: forty million black people. That's what one point six billion, okay,
Speaker 2: every month if we gave twenty dollars, if we throw
Speaker 2: away one point six billion every month with forty million
Speaker 2: black people, Man, how much good in the hood can
Speaker 2: that do?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: That's lineh changing the stuff that we can do. Yes,
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy my thoughts.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Identity politics, that's what's this election is all about. That's
Speaker 2: the number one thing that it's being targeted in the
Speaker 2: black community. The fact that Kamala Harris is a black
Speaker 2: woman and all black.
Speaker 3: People should just vote for it because she's black.
Speaker 2: That's identity politics, and that's what this election is all about.
Speaker 2: But it ain't about the policies, it ain't about the
Speaker 2: issues before us.
Speaker 3: But it's all about the skin color.
Speaker 2: And I remember black people lined it up by the
Speaker 2: thousands and millions and voted for Obama just because he
Speaker 2: was a black man. And I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of white people vote for white people just because they're white,
Speaker 2: regardless of their policies and issues. But this election is
Speaker 2: shaping up to be identity politics, and that's the reality.
Speaker 2: People can say what they wanna say, but we all
Speaker 2: know that they're telling us to vote for Kamala just
Speaker 2: because we're black.
Speaker 3: They're telling black men.
Speaker 2: Obama went out and did a scolding to black men
Speaker 2: about if you not voting for Kamala, had you misogynists?
Speaker 2: So he went out there to shame black men, and
Speaker 2: that's been on the news reel for a few days
Speaker 2: now about people's thoughts about what Obama did. I mean
Speaker 2: basically saying that he offered no policies whatsoever. All he
Speaker 2: did was focused on the skin color. But yet they
Speaker 2: don't never want to do nothing to appease black people
Speaker 2: because of us being black, meaning that they're specific groups
Speaker 2: that Biden's administry had focused on specifically and did things for.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to just specifically doing the black
Speaker 2: something for black people, our statistics in America is different
Speaker 2: from other races and cultes, and we seem to be
Speaker 2: on the bottom of test scores, the bottom of getting resources,
Speaker 2: in the bottom of poor health.
Speaker 3: So we gotta be singled off.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be healed some of these problems that we
Speaker 2: suffer from in these communities all across America. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the president should focus on certain things specific
Speaker 2: for black people. The income and wealth gap, is huge.
Speaker 2: Black people are learning trying to level up. Well, it's
Speaker 2: gonna take some direct targeting. Our emissions in the colleges
Speaker 2: across America are low, our incarceration rates are high. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to single out black people do address
Speaker 2: single handling some of these problems back.
Speaker 3: But there is no no great way hope. There is
Speaker 3: no great Black hope.
Speaker 2: Neither one of them is going to be a miracle maker.
Speaker 2: But identity politics, they play the rights card, They play
Speaker 2: to our emotions and try to appease. But on the
Speaker 2: terms of the issues, well, you have to decide for
Speaker 2: yourself with issues that matter the most. I think people
Speaker 2: are gonna vote. They can say they're gonna vote their conscience. No,
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna vote their purse. I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna vote economically. Right now, every time you buy gas
Speaker 2: and go to the polls, you're reminded of Bynomics in
Speaker 2: this administration. They can try to massage the reasons why
Speaker 2: it's happened, but a lot of people are gonna atone death.
Speaker 2: So I think people are gonna vote economy, and that
Speaker 2: means they're gonna vote for a different administration. That's what
Speaker 2: I think and but you gotta decide for yourself what's
Speaker 2: important for you and what's best for you. But I
Speaker 2: think just not you, but for the community at large
Speaker 2: and for America at large, we need to consider because
Speaker 2: we're more than just individuals.
Speaker 3: We are a community and we are a nation.
Speaker 2: But identity politics, it seemed like that's the only card
Speaker 2: they plan. They want black people just to vote for
Speaker 2: Kamala Harry just because she's black, don't matter what her
Speaker 2: policies are, don't matter what she stands for. She's trying
Speaker 2: to make an effort in these lot of days doing
Speaker 2: more interviews, but I think she made a used mistake.
Speaker 2: You have to get out here and express yourself. You
Speaker 2: can't run on just hating Trump and they should vote
Speaker 2: for me. Trump is also, like I said earlier, is
Speaker 2: popular and he also is most hated. But you know,
Speaker 2: they gotten away with a vote. This is a vote
Speaker 2: against Trump, and it has worked. But I don't think
Speaker 2: that's gonna work this time. Why because people are hurting,
Speaker 2: and people are reminded of that every time they go
Speaker 2: to the gas to fill up their cars with gas
Speaker 2: and every time they.
Speaker 3: Go to the grocery store.
Speaker 2: So people can compare Trump's administration and economy with this
Speaker 2: present one, and people feel a certain way and they
Speaker 2: expressing it. So just hating the tr hating Trump is
Speaker 2: not enough because he's the most loved kind candidate.
Speaker 3: And he's also the most hated, so that it is
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 2: But this this election has been all about p identity politics.
Speaker 2: Vote for someone just because of the color of the skin,
Speaker 2: not because of the character and content of.
Speaker 3: Their information and policies, you know.
Speaker 2: So I don't think that as a nation we should
Speaker 2: move based upon I definitely believe that black people have
Speaker 2: to have their own agenda, have to have their own
Speaker 2: policies that they we have to push in order to
Speaker 2: change some of the problems that plague us. We have
Speaker 2: to be specific and but at the same time, it
Speaker 2: has the benefit of America. And I think that a
Speaker 2: educated black man and woman benefits of America. I think
Speaker 2: a a person who doesn't suffer from trauma, a black
Speaker 2: person that doesn't suffer from trauma or teenage pregnancy.
Speaker 3: Or suffers from drugs benefits of America.
Speaker 2: I think a black person that goes to it, gets
Speaker 2: higher education and gets a great job benefits of America.
Speaker 3: So I see that improving.
Speaker 2: The quality of life of black people and richest America
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: So they run hand in hand. Hope you enjoy the episode.
Speaker 2: Well, well, well it's coming up November fifth, the big election.
Speaker 3: Who's going to win?
Speaker 2: The opposer tight? They say this is the c one
Speaker 2: of the closest elections ever. Well, I guess we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to wait to November fifth to find out.
Speaker 1: But I know one thing.
Speaker 2: People say, if you're not registered, you need to be
Speaker 2: registered and vote your conscious But I'll say this is that, no,
Speaker 2: the issues, the issues.
Speaker 3: There are many, There are many.
Speaker 2: People say this is an existential threat to democracy this
Speaker 2: upcoming election.
Speaker 1: I don't buy that, but I do know that.
Speaker 2: Rome was destroyed from within, and little by little certain
Speaker 2: things in America have been changing, and as rolling, the
Speaker 2: democracy within America has come a long way. I'll talk
Speaker 2: to one of my beloved friends and he and he
Speaker 2: brought up a question.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, is America racist?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Some believe that it is, some believe that it's not.
Speaker 2: We know in the past it was without a shadow
Speaker 2: of a doubt. The question is is it still racist today?
Speaker 2: So we talked deeply about that and I'll say this
Speaker 2: is that you're able to regardless of race and creed
Speaker 2: or sex. There are laws in place that stop people
Speaker 2: from discriminating.
Speaker 1: It don't mean that there's no gaps to loopholes that
Speaker 1: people find to.
Speaker 2: Literally continue to be discriminated and racist towards race, creed, color,
Speaker 2: religion or whatever. But for the most part, you could
Speaker 2: be Hispanic and become wealthy in its cud. You could
Speaker 2: be black man and woman and become wealthy in it's
Speaker 2: gun from rags the riches.
Speaker 3: I've seen it. I've witnessed it.
Speaker 2: People can be born with nothing and be innovative and
Speaker 2: become rich and famous. This country has many people who
Speaker 2: would had little at birth and grew up with terrible
Speaker 2: cards that was dealt with in their life and are.
Speaker 1: Famous and wealthy. And so does that say that America
Speaker 1: is not racist, don't discriminate.
Speaker 2: I don't think that eliminates that, But I do say
Speaker 2: that people are more educated, more knowledgeable, and that they
Speaker 2: know how to work around or get pasted, you know,
Speaker 2: like the sat score.
Speaker 1: You know it was coachurally and RACI culturally biased, they say,
Speaker 1: some say racist, but.
Speaker 2: Blacks have found a way to not allow that sat
Speaker 2: to stop them from getting into the major universities and graduate.
Speaker 2: So I think people are more resourceful, more knowledgeable. You
Speaker 2: can read and write, so people have found ways to
Speaker 2: work around pitfalls that might be put in place to
Speaker 2: discriminate or separate. But that's the name of the game
Speaker 2: man education. For a lack of knowledge, my people are destroyed.
Speaker 2: When you have knowledge, you can have more opportunities. And
Speaker 2: in America, if you have knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, there
Speaker 2: are tremendous amount of opportunities, and Blacks have taken advantage
Speaker 2: of it. We have a lot of wealthy and famous
Speaker 2: people who were born with little or nothing. Whites, the same, Hispanics,
Speaker 2: the same other ethnicity, Asians, Jewish people have made a
Speaker 2: landmark in this country. Regardless of certain laws that might
Speaker 2: be discriminating or racist, people have been able to enjoy
Speaker 2: what they call the American dream. People have come from
Speaker 2: all over this world immigrants and they have become successful
Speaker 2: in this nation because of America has changed a lot.
Speaker 2: It's not like it was in the sixties. It's not
Speaker 2: the kind of country it was in the sixties with
Speaker 2: Jim Crow. Without a country, when there wasn't no civil rights.
Speaker 3: You couldn't vote and.
Speaker 1: Things like that.
Speaker 2: This country has come a long long way and we
Speaker 2: have to acknowledge that is it.
Speaker 1: Where it should be? Are there other issues that.
Speaker 2: Could be changed or improved the punt, Yes, but it's
Speaker 2: come a long way and people have.
Speaker 1: Died in sacrifice to get it to this place.
Speaker 2: And some of those freedoms that we're taking forgot, like
Speaker 2: freedom of speech, First Amendment, they're being attacked.
Speaker 1: But a lot of.
Speaker 2: People think I don't think that they're aware that it's
Speaker 2: a lot of Democrats that are of challenging First Amendment
Speaker 2: in people's the Bill of rights. People think that it's
Speaker 2: just you know, these white supremacists in America. No, these
Speaker 2: people in suits and ties and they're challenging free speech.
Speaker 2: The beauty of free speeches is what has caused America
Speaker 2: to be one of the greatest nations to live in.
Speaker 2: People are killed outright for saying things against their government.
Speaker 2: In this nation, you're allowed to say things against it's
Speaker 2: the government.
Speaker 1: That don't mean you're not gonna be without consequences.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is in most cases you're not
Speaker 2: shot out there, dragged.
Speaker 1: Out in the middle, or not out of your house.
Speaker 2: And lynched and in prison because you say something you know,
Speaker 2: against the government. But that's the thing about America, that's
Speaker 2: the saving grace, that's what separate America from these banana republics.
Speaker 2: So we need to be careful about empowering some of
Speaker 2: these entities in America that want to erode the very
Speaker 2: thing that allows America to be different than most of
Speaker 2: these nations around the planet. Like I say, the changes
Speaker 2: that have come about in America are a result of
Speaker 2: people protesting, people standing up the freedom of pressed. But
Speaker 2: those things are being challenged today because of not just
Speaker 2: white suprint but very rich and wealthy people are buying
Speaker 2: up these entities and are controlling social media and controlling
Speaker 2: the flow of information and controlling how people think because
Speaker 2: they want us to think a certain way.
Speaker 1: So it ain't just the one that's poor.
Speaker 2: Al RIGHTY tell you they're a white supremacist, but they
Speaker 2: are people in suits and ties that are also white supremacists,
Speaker 2: that are deceivers, and they are trying to manipulate us
Speaker 2: into believing that they are friends, but in reality they're
Speaker 2: trying to establish in the back and take away some
Speaker 2: of our freedoms because they feel threatened because people can
Speaker 2: be empowered or people can rise up, you know.
Speaker 1: From nothing to become influential and famous.
Speaker 2: So know that the devil comes in all shape, sizes
Speaker 2: and forms and skin colors and genders and what have you.
Speaker 2: And it ain't just one particular type that you might
Speaker 2: think there's racist or evil, but they come in all
Speaker 2: shapes and sizes, So just be on alert. Don't limit
Speaker 2: your perspective on terms of certain people who pray off
Speaker 2: of people's ignorance and don't have and these people who
Speaker 2: don't have no empathy and don't care nothing but having
Speaker 2: power and manipulating the masses to keep their power.
Speaker 3: So don't be fooled.
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