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Speaker 2: What's going on, everyone, Emilia body here. You are listening

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Speaker 2: to episode two hundred and ninety eight of Hurdle, a

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Speaker 2: wellness focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people about

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Speaker 2: everything from their highest ties and toughest moments to essential

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Speaker 2: tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life.

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Speaker 2: We all go through our fair share of hurdles. My

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Speaker 2: With Adidas and she, like many, are towing the line

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Speaker 2: up in Boston today on Marathon Monday. This episode going

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Speaker 2: many of her best tips in today's episode, how to

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Speaker 2: if you are in Boston, don't forget that the bandit

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Speaker 2: at one nineteen Newberry today and tomorrow. Monday's hours are

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Speaker 3: And with that, let's get to it. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Dominique Scott. She's a pro runner

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Speaker 2: in your shoes, talk to us about the process that

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Speaker 1: The first team was honestly the easiest. I was actually

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Speaker 1: still in college. I was a senior at the University

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Speaker 1: of Arkansas, and I qualified in the ten thousand and

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Speaker 1: I think my first ten k of the season at

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Speaker 1: the Stanford Invites or the Paydon Jordan invite one of

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Speaker 1: the meets at Stanford and yeah, I'd run about twenty

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Speaker 1: later to run the South African Championships. I needed to

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Speaker 1: be present at the championships in place top three in

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Speaker 1: order to then be selected, so I did that. I

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Speaker 1: guess the hardest part was that I missed like ten

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Speaker 1: But of course coach Harder at the university was super

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Speaker 1: supportive of it, and then I was able to just

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Speaker 1: focus on my finishing out my NCAA season well. And

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Speaker 1: then in August went to Rio. So that was honestly

547
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Speaker 1: the easiest team to make, just because everything was like

548
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Speaker 1: pretty straightforward and I had the support of the university.

549
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Speaker 1: It was the Tokyo Olympics because of COVID. That was

550
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Speaker 1: the trick you on had. I think I qualified for

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Speaker 1: the five thousand the year before, and then I was

552
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Speaker 1: still wanting to qualify for the ten thousand, but I

553
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Speaker 1: got a stress reaction coming into twenty twenty one, my

554
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Speaker 1: first bone injury. But I knew that I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to qualify for that ten k, so I didn't have

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Speaker 1: too much time. The hard thing about the ten thousand

557
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Speaker 1: meters on the track is we don't have many opportunities

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Speaker 1: to race them. It's not like the fifteen hundred or

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Speaker 1: the eight hundred, where you can find a pretty high

560
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Speaker 1: caliber race every other weekend. The ten k, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's really only one or two shots during the year.

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Speaker 1: So I trained through my injury, I crossed, trained through

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Speaker 1: my injury, got myself healthy, and yeah, trained my butt off,

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Speaker 1: and then in June flew over to Europe and ran

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Speaker 1: a ten k and was able to snag the qualifier there,

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Speaker 1: And obviously at some point I'd gone to South Africa

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Speaker 1: to run the championships. But yeah, it kind of feels

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Speaker 1: like they've they've got harder.

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Speaker 4: To make every time.

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Speaker 1: And whether that's been because World Athletics makes the qualifying

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Speaker 1: times harder or just yeah, having something as crazy as

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Speaker 1: COVID thrown in there. But yeah, the first one, the

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Speaker 1: first one was the easiest.

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Speaker 3: Again, another domb quote here, wasn't that hard to make?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I think shows the humanity in

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Speaker 2: all of this is you, at the beginning of our

579
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Speaker 2: conversation talking about how the marathon has been so challenging

580
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Speaker 2: and kind of in.

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Speaker 3: A way different muscles for you to flex.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's like you were really good at the

583
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Speaker 2: ten k and are really good at the ten k.

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Speaker 2: You're still running ten k's, but really good at the

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Speaker 2: ten k, and then decided, Hey, I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: out and try something new. And I think that that's

587
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Speaker 2: really beautiful, right. It allows you to expand and learn

588
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Speaker 2: and keep on learning as you continue to evolve, not

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Speaker 2: just as an athlete but as a woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been cool. Yeah, I think it's the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the call. I was saying how humbling the

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Speaker 1: experience has been transitioning to the marathon, because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: my coach and you know, a couple friends had really

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Speaker 1: thought that I would kind of jump right in and

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Speaker 1: be competitive off the bat, and I haven't run poorly.

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Speaker 1: I just haven't run quite as quick yet as we

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Speaker 1: thought I might. I ran to twenty nine to nineteen

598
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Speaker 1: in London, which was obviously a fine debut. It was

599
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Speaker 1: a very hard race, being a woman's own race. So

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Speaker 1: I ran the second half of the race totally, so

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Speaker 1: load didn't see another Runner, and then Chicago I ran

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Speaker 1: to twenty seven thirty when we thought once again that

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Speaker 1: i'd run a bit quicker. So yeah, it's just been

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Speaker 1: a humbling experience. But I do know that that Adidas

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Speaker 1: wants me on the roads, and I want to be

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Speaker 1: on the roads too, And you know, the marathon is

607
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Speaker 1: obviously the key event on the roads. It's also where

608
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Speaker 1: the money is on the road, so it's definitely the

609
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Speaker 1: most incentivized race. Yeah, it's but it's a hard long day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: two and a half hours, twenty six point two miles,

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Speaker 1: Like that's no joke.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, a hard long day again. Another really great

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Speaker 2: quote from Don as I did hear a you know,

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Speaker 2: average four hour marathon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, that was something I thought after my first marathon.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care how fast or slow

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Speaker 1: you run the marathon. If you have done a marri

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Speaker 1: whether you hoped or crawled across that finish line, I

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Speaker 1: am an Oh, I am so impressed because the marathon

620
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Speaker 1: is a brutal event. Like, you know, it is so long,

621
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Speaker 1: so much can happen over twenty six point two miles.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm a fan of anyone who's completed

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Speaker 1: a marathon anyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trust me, I totally agree.

625
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Speaker 2: I think no matter how long it takes you, the

626
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Speaker 2: fact that you showed up at all says something. Considering

627
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Speaker 2: that less than one percent of the global population wants

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Speaker 2: to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly that less than well that other ninety

630
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Speaker 1: nine percent, they're smart because the parathon is crazy.

631
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Speaker 3: We're just lunatics. That's exactly what we are.

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Speaker 2: Well knowing also that being an Olympian was your goal

633
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Speaker 2: and you've done it twice. Now after these trips to

634
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Speaker 2: the Olympics, do you have those post Olympics blues that

635
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Speaker 2: people talk about?

636
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Speaker 3: Have you had that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, I definitely did. I think I don't know

639
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Speaker 1: if I like calling it the post Olympic blues. I

640
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Speaker 1: think it can be spun positively. It was a weird

641
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Speaker 1: realization for me going to the Olympics, as I think

642
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Speaker 1: I was twenty four twenty four year old in twenty sixteen,

643
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Speaker 1: having come off the high of just graduating and signing

644
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Speaker 1: a professional contract with Adidas. I think where it comes

645
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: from is no one just goes to the Olympics. Everyone

646
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: has such a long, hard journey with usually lots of

647
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Speaker 1: sacrifices made to get there, and when you get to

648
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: the Olympics, it's very special, it's very cool. But at

649
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it is just another race

650
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Speaker 1: or you know, competition, depending on what sport you're in.

651
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Speaker 1: It's not really going to change change your world. You know,

652
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Speaker 1: you're the same people are still going to love you,

653
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Speaker 1: the same people are still going to support you. You

654
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655
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Speaker 1: couple more sponsorships or something like that, but at the

656
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Speaker 1: end of the day, it's it's just another race. And

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Speaker 1: I think that can be viewed negatively because you can

658
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Speaker 1: get there, you can run the race and kind of realize, wow,

659
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Speaker 1: that was not really life changing like I thought it

660
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: would be. Or you can go, you can race and

661
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: you can be like, cool, it's just another race, Like

662
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: there isn't I shouldn't be putting extra pressure on myself.

663
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be building this event up to be something

664
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Speaker 1: bigger than it is. At the end of the day,

665
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: it's just another ten twenty five laps around the track,

666
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Speaker 1: you know, against the best runners in the world.

667
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Speaker 2: Just another twenty five I think also there is some

668
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: humanity that comes to the event and by viewing it

669
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Speaker 2: the way that you just described, you have the opportunity

670
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: to also in that moment come back to calm exactly

671
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: the event within itself. Of course, the Olympics is this

672
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: awesome thing. There's a reason why so many individuals are

673
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: excited to compete there, same ver World Championships or insert

674
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Speaker 2: other big race here.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, by viewing it

676
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: in this way, it.

677
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Helps you the athlete, take back some of the control

678
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: that might feel otherwise lost.

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00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. It's like it brings it. It brings

680
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: it down a little bit. It like doesn't put it

681
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: on a pedestal as much anymore.

682
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: When you finish a big event, whether it is the

683
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: Olympics or the Boston Marathon, are there certain things that

684
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: you look forward to, maybe only if for a little

685
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: while or whatever the case may be, get back into

686
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: your routine or focus on before you really get back

687
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: into the swing of heavy training.

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, post big races is weird. I

689
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: think my husband like he doesn't even want to be

690
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: around me after a big race because it is I

691
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of feel lost. You know. I really like being

692
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: in a routine. I'm a homebody. I like, you know,

693
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: being in my home doing my training, coming home, eating well, napping.

694
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: Like I love the routine of being a professional distance athlete.

695
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: So when I finished a big race and I have

696
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: a week or two of no running, I feel weird.

697
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of other listeners feel the same way.

698
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: It's like I feel like, yeah, I just I feel

699
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: like I'm not myself without running. But it obviously is

700
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: also so important to have that time to reset, to

701
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: allow your body to recover, and especially after the marathon,

702
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: it's so needed. But I think that I try to

703
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at it, but I try to

704
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: do things that I wouldn't normally do during season, So

705
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: like our accompany my husband to the golf course and

706
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: ride along in his cart as he plays eighteen holes

707
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: or something like that, something where usually I'd be like,

708
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I need to be at home with my feed up,

709
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: or you know, whether it's going out to dinner and

710
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: not looking at the time and allowing myself to stay

711
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: out slightly later than normal, or usually after a big race,

712
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: we'll fly back to Arkansas to visit Cameron's family. You know,

713
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: something that I don't get to do while I'm in

714
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: a heavy training block. So yeah, so they definitely are

715
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: things that I do. Sometimes we schedule a vacation usually

716
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: like once a year, Cam and I try to go

717
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: on vacation that I obviously look forwards too. But yeah,

718
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: the feeling of like not having a purpose in my day,

719
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: a purpose of training hard and trying to make myself

720
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: a better runner, like, that's not a feeling that I

721
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: really enjoy.

722
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, understandable. I think a lot of us kind of

723
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: tiptoe on this line of so many different ways that

724
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: we identify, right, So if you were to tell me

725
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: that over the course of three weeks month that I

726
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't be interviewing anyone or talking to anyone, I would

727
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: feel a little bit shook because this is something that

728
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: I love to do and it's a big part of

729
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: how I identify and as a journalist, as a podcaster,

730
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: it's just a big part of my day to day.

731
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: So I hear you on that for sure.

732
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: Now, something I want to chat about a little bit

733
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: would be the opportunity to form these relationships with the

734
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 2: other women on Team Boss. I loved what you wrote

735
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: over on your Instagram after Corey McGee got married, saying

736
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: that you never would have expected to be at her

737
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: wedding ten years later after you guys were rivals in college.

738
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Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about how it feels

739
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Speaker 2: for you to have this supportive group of women in Boulder.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Corey. Corey and I have known each other

741
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: for a long time. Obviously, Florida and Arkansas both very

742
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: big SEC track teams, and she was I think a

743
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: year two ahead of me in school, so we kind

744
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: of we overlapped for a few years, but not our

745
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: full like four or five years. But definitely when I

746
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: was a freshman in Arkansas, I got taught that Corey McGee,

747
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Jen Lacause Mandy Perkins, who are her two very good

748
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: friends and were two of her bridesmaids. They were the enemies,

749
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: man like, we wanted to beat them. So now training

750
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: with Corey on a day to day basis and being

751
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: friends with Mandy and Jen is definitely pretty funny. And

752
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I never never in a million years would have thought that, yeah,

753
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: I would be going to Corey McGee's wedding, So that's

754
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: pretty funny. But yeah, I feel it's being a professional

755
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: runner is such a gift. Like obviously I know that

756
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: if you were to ask almost any college athlete if

757
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: they could, you know, if they wanted to go pro,

758
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: if they had the opportunity to go pro. I know

759
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: they would say yes, it is such a gift. But

760
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: I think professional running, being a professional athlete is glamorized.

761
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it looks a lot prettier, a

762
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: lot shinier than it actually is. It's a really hard

763
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: job to be competing for your livelihood, for your work

764
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: to be on display all the time. It's pretty hard.

765
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: And to be able to go through the highs and

766
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: lows with other like minded athletes, I just feel very lucky.

767
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: I think it would be so.

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00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Much harder, so much lonelier, and yeah, not enjoyable if

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Speaker 1: I was doing this by myself. So yeah, I feel

770
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: very lucky to have the girls on team Boss to

771
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: go through this journey with.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me a little bit about maybe the other

773
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Speaker 2: side of the coin. Is it difficult at times to

774
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: be doing the same events, like I know you mentioned

775
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: obviously Bates and you both towing the line in Boston,

776
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: you haven't had the opportunity to train together.

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Speaker 3: Is that an exciting thing for you? Is it motivating

778
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 3: for you?

779
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: Are there moments of competition and falling into the comparison trap.

780
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: Where do you sit within that?

781
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Joe has done a pretty

782
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: good job of one making sure we have athletes that

783
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, aren't only competitors, but they can also be

784
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: good teammates and training partners. But I also think he's

785
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: done a good job of making sure we have that

786
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: we don't have like five US fifteen hundred meter runners

787
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: all going for three spots, if that makes sense. You know,

788
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: we have obviously, Ayisha represents Jamaica, I represent South Africa.

789
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: The rest are American. But we a lot of us

790
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: represent different brands, so we're not really competing for our

791
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: brands dollars. We're also competing in a lot of different events.

792
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: They obviously are times where we overlap with races like

793
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Bates and I obviously both ran Chicago, We're both running Boston.

794
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: And I've been on the track, you know, competing with

795
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: some of the girls in the past. But for me,

796
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 1: I've almost felt lucky that I have someone to warm

797
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: up with, I have someone that I know has gone

798
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: through the training with me. I've never really viewed it

799
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: too much as a negative, you know, I think the

800
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: girls that are competing for the US spots. It's a

801
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: slightly different for them, but I think for the most part,

802
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: everyone just sees it as an advantage, like we get

803
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: to help each other be the best athletes we can be,

804
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: and you know, if Danny is helping Corey be the

805
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: best runner she can be, Corey's also helping Danny, and

806
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: then on the day they just, you know, have to

807
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: try and beat each other to make that team.

808
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: But do the best you can with what you have.

809
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I think we know like we're better off

810
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: for it, if that makes sense.

811
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Speaker 2: No, it totally makes sense. Beyond the team though. Do

812
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: you find that you ever fall into that comparison trap?

813
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Do you ever have difficulty with that?

814
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can share that I have really tried to

815
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: be off Instagram for the past almost two months now.

816
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: I've just been going on Instagram to post my stuff

817
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: and then I get off there. Even though I really

818
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: enjoy Instagram, I really enjoy making reels. I find it

819
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: really fun, but I know that there's this whole other

820
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: side that Instagram definitely affects, like my mental psyche. When

821
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing athletes results, I'm seeing their training and then

822
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: comparing myself to that and you know, wondering if I'm

823
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: training hard enough, if I'm fit enough, if I'm doing enough.

824
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, it can be hard because, like I said,

825
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: we're all you know, there's only so much marketing dollars

826
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: that these brands have and they have to choose where

827
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: they're going to put it, whether it's you know you

828
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: or someone else, and it is it's easy. It's hard

829
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Speaker 1: not to compare yourself to other athletes, for sure.

830
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Speaker 3: Who is domb outside of being a runner?

831
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good question. I feel like I need

832
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: someone else to answer that.

833
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: That's so interesting that you said that.

834
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, well, I feel like my husband

835
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: or my sister would almost need to answer that, because one,

836
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the runner, you know, so much

837
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: of the time. And I would like to say that

838
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty positive, bubbly, fun person.

839
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: I'm pretty girly.

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00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm a homebody, so I definitely like

841
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: being at home. I have a dog, Bailey. I adopted

842
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: her when I was only a sophomore in college, so

843
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: she's eleven years old now and she's you know, been

844
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: in my life pretty much since I was in the US.

845
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: So being around her is definitely important to me, and

846
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: I love being around her. I know, my teammates kind

847
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: of sometimes tease me that I'm like so close to

848
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: my husband, but my husband is definitely my best friend

849
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: and I love spending time with him. Yeah, I would say,

850
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like pretty much like a girly girl. I

851
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: love rom coms, reading rom coms, watching rom coms. That's like,

852
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: that's kind of me. That's like yeah, and I think

853
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, I've been chasing running and all the running

854
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: goal since you know, I was like twelve years old.

855
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: I've always been super sporty, so it's hard to take

856
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: myself out of running or away from running. But yeah,

857
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's that's.

858
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: Kind of me, a woman that loves her dog and

859
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: loves rom coms. You know this question is coming.

860
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: Then if you had to give me like top two

861
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: to three rom coms, what are we going with?

862
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Ooh? I like, I mean, honestly, I like anything except

863
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: for maybe like the super corny ones, because then sometimes

864
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm even like closing my eyes. But something like the

865
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: getting Sarah Marshall, you know, that's like obviously such a

866
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: good one, all the Nicholas sparks ones like I think

867
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: it's called your choice or my choice something like that,

868
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: or even the Notebook, you know, all those like just

869
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: happy ending, good love stories. It's so typical that you

870
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: can guess what's gonna happen in the end.

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00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 4: But that's my type of movie.

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00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and say that my top three are

873
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: probably tendings to heart about you.

874
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great one.

875
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: Pretty woman nice, might be clueless. Oh it's fun. That's fun,

876
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: little mixed up over here.

877
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 4: I like that.

878
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I'll have to think about mine. Maybe I'll like post

879
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: them on my Instagram story or something, because I think.

880
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: I force you to get back on social media. But

881
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 3: I think, you know, like I said, I.

882
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: Don't know, I've been posting and then I just get off.

883
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: It's like I have obviously some ads that I need

884
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: to do, or if I get really good workout content,

885
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: I'll post it. But it's just it's not going onto

886
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: social media squirreling for thirty minutes and seeing what you

887
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: know everyone else is doing in their training build for

888
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon. It's that type of thing.

889
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: Totally, so beyond what's going on right now. Clearly we're

890
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 2: in an Olympic year. How are you feeling about Paris?

891
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: This year is a little bit weird for me because

892
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: I transitioned to the marathon last year. I'm not and

893
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't actually have the A standard for Paris. I'm

894
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: not sure if I'm gonna get to go. I could

895
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: go back to the ten K, I could go back

896
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: to the track after Boston. I'm honestly just not sure

897
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: if I want to. There's an A and a B

898
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: standard for the marathon. The A standard is two twenty

899
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: six fifty. The B standard is two twenty nine thirty.

900
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: So I got that B standard in my debut in

901
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: London Chicago. I thought I would run the A standard.

902
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: I was about forty seconds shy of. However, you can

903
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: still get in based off rankings. I thought my rankings

904
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: would get me into the Olympics. So I chose to

905
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: run Boston this spring. You know, you have to make

906
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: these decisions months out. So I made this decision about

907
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: November last year ready, and since then, three South Africans

908
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: have run the standard, and Boston is not a legal

909
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: course where I can run, like get a faster time

910
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: than my Chicago time. So right now I'm actually sitting

911
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: out of the Olympics for the South African squad. Yeah,

912
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: so I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what

913
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: to think. I Yeah, like I said, I could still

914
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: try run another fast marathon, that's pretty unlikely after Boston.

915
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm, you know, just going to do Boston

916
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: and put all my eggs into that basket and then, Yeah,

917
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I could also go back to the track.

918
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: But my heart's kind of on the roads now. So yeah,

919
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: I think I might just be focusing on the roads

920
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: and it might not lead me to Paris. But I

921
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: also kind of feel like the World Majors are such

922
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: a big stage that, you know, if I have to

923
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: miss Paris this time around, I've already got to Olympics

924
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: in my bag, and I'll just go and run some

925
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: world mages and get some experience and maybe some prize money.

926
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: Maybe some prize money. I'm hearing a lot of growth here.

927
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: It sounds in the way that you speak about it

928
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: like you're very at peace with whatever happens next.

929
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been kind of a transformative year transitioning to

930
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: the marathon, and I think just getting another year older.

931
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: Definitely.

932
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: My husband's helped a lot with it because I obviously

933
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: have had my moments of sadness about possibly not being

934
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: at the Paris Olympics and knowing that it was really

935
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: because I decided to times my distance by four the

936
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: year before the fix. And you know, I think my

937
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: progression in the marathon is still being fine. Like my

938
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: coach Joe, I asked them after Chicago, should I just

939
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: quit with the marathon, Like, should I just go back

940
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: to the track, And he was like, dumb, You're in

941
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: two twenty seven and your second marathon ever, like at

942
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: a world major. He's like, if we could get two

943
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: minutes better every time we ran a marathon like that

944
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: would be amazing. I think it's just hard when I'm

945
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: comparing myself against the best marathons in the world. Obviously,

946
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: it then doesn't seem like, you know, to twenty seven

947
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: is that good?

948
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: But I do have.

949
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: Faith that there is still a lot of room for

950
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: improvement in the marathon and that I'm on the right path.

951
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, my husband likes to remind me, you've been

952
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: to two Olympics, Like, is a third one really going

953
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: to make that a good of a difference, you know?

954
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, the marathon is just like a whole new

955
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: ball game. And I've definitely felt very taken care of

956
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: and looked after at these World Majores London and Chicago,

957
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: and I know Boston will be no different. And to

958
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: be honest, going to the Olympics, like there's a lot

959
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: of stuff you got to do for yourself. Like a

960
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: lot of times you're coming out of pocket for a

961
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, maybe like your pre camp,

962
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: getting over to Paris.

963
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

964
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: You're staying in a village, you're sleeping, you know, sharing

965
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: a room, you're sleeping on a tiny little bed or

966
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, like tokyo, a cardboard bed that isn't very comfortable.

967
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: You're not able to eat the food you usually eat

968
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: before races. You're you know, eating in a cafeteria. So

969
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: it's obviously an amazing experience representing your country and competing

970
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: at the Olympics, the world's biggest stage, but it's not

971
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: an easy place to perform well. And I think, you know,

972
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: I've done it twice. If I had the opportunity to

973
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: go to Paris, would I take it?

974
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

975
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: But you know it, maybe it's not the worst thing

976
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: in the world to you know, not be given that

977
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: opportunity this year, and you know, rather go and run

978
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: another fast marathon in the.

979
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: Fall, and all of the other opportunities you've never had

980
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: that you're embarking on right now are here to teach

981
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: you something else, to instill new lessons within you. And

982
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: it's not to say that. Who knows, Maybe Dom has

983
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 2: teammates to cheer on in there.

984
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 4: For sure, I'm sure I will.

985
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: I definitely will have teammates, Team Boss teammates, Adida's teammates,

986
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: South African teammates. I'll have lots of people to come

987
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: cheer and get excited for. I Also, every summer for

988
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: the past decade I've been competing and you know, traveling

989
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: around the world. It might be a nice change to

990
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, have a little bit of a downtime this summer.

991
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: I mean, all this being said, I would way rather

992
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: be in Paris. But yeah, I think as I'm getting older,

993
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 1: I'm just realizing that I don't know, there's not any

994
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: one way forwards, and the Olympics isn't everything.

995
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: It's obviously very cool.

996
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: But they I do still feel in my gut like

997
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: there are going to be some good races and good

998
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: opportunities for me in the marathon and Paris might just

999
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: not be part of that story.

1000
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. It's interesting though.

1001
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if, come gosh, May June,

1002
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: we're seeing you trying to tackle some track workouts.

1003
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't be surprised either. I would. I'm sure.

1004
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's at the back of Joe's mind.

1005
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1006
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: If I could run, you know, anything close to what

1007
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: I did like a year ago, I would be fine,

1008
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: And I could go to Paris in the ten k

1009
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: it's just more Yeah, if I want to do that,

1010
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: and if Adidas wants me to do that too.

1011
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: A little combo decision making to me.

1012
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1013
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: Right now, we've talked a little bit about social media.

1014
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: Someone goes to your Instagram page, they see this bubbly,

1015
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: happy woman, a professional runner for Adidas. You got something

1016
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: like sixty thousand followers over there. But when you look

1017
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: in the mirror, what is it that you see looking

1018
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: back at you.

1019
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: Dom Ooh, Honestly, it depends what day it is, which

1020
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: is which is sad? To be honest, like, there are

1021
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: some days that I look in the mirror and I

1022
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: see a very hard worker and someone who has been

1023
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: dedicated to being the best runner they can be for

1024
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, a very long period of time. And then

1025
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: there are other days that I look in the mirror

1026
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sad. I'm sad that I don't

1027
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: know that I'm not faster, that I'm not you know,

1028
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: I haven't run as many records as I would like.

1029
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 4: I think, you know, going.

1030
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: Back to what I said earlier, our job is is hard,

1031
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 1: and we're always comparing ourselves and always you know, looking

1032
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: at those time bonuses or the records that we haven't

1033
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: got yet and feeling like we're somewhat of a failure

1034
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: or not good enough. And yeah, so I feel I

1035
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: feel like it kind of flip flops, and it would

1036
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: be it would be disingenuine to say that, you know,

1037
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: I look in the mirror and every day I see

1038
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, a positive, a positive of happy person.

1039
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is so relatable. I always come back

1040
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: to this thought that vulnerability is relatable.

1041
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: Perfection is not.

1042
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: And so to be projecting in such a certain way,

1043
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: not only if you're projecting that image of perfection, is

1044
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: that not serving you, but it's not really creating a

1045
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: pathway for anyone to have authentic and progressive conversations with

1046
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: you either.

1047
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, for sure.

1048
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's where social media can be tricky

1049
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be going on social media

1050
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 1: and posting the bad stuff, right, and no one wants

1051
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: to see or hear that. Like I could be sharing

1052
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: about how last week I got a toe blister and

1053
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: then it got infected and I had to go on antibiotics,

1054
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: and then I got a cold from going to Corey's

1055
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: wedding and it was like a horrible week to have

1056
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: three weeks out from the Boston Marathon. But no one

1057
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: wants to hear about that, you know, so you don't

1058
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: post that, you don't share it, but then you're only

1059
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: sharing the highlights and that's hard for people to digest too,

1060
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: because it's not real life.

1061
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you. I hear you.

1062
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: I think there's somewhat of a balance to be had,

1063
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: but finding that balance certainly takes time and it's definitely

1064
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: definitely different for everyone personally.

1065
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: I would love to hear about your toe blisters.

1066
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: Tom, Oh my goodness, No, it wasn't very fun. It

1067
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: was so stupid. I couldn't believe.

1068
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Like, like I've said, I've been running for like two decades,

1069
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: and three weeks before the Boston Marathon, I get, you know,

1070
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: a blister infected.

1071
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: It was very silly and stupid.

1072
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: All that I would say is everyone keep your blisters

1073
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: very clean and also don't run too hard on antibiotics

1074
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: because that's not good for you either.

1075
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: Elites, they're just like us. Well, as we wind down here, Dom,

1076
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: I want to hear besides Boston, what are you excited

1077
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: about right now?

1078
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: Ooh, well, I don't have any other races on the

1079
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: schedule as of right now. I would like to run

1080
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: another marathon in the fall, maybe another fast one one.

1081
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: Am I excited? But I don't know.

1082
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: I just feel like, even though it's like already April,

1083
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much time this year to

1084
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: just grow and become better people.

1085
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's a really good question.

1086
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: But I don't know. But I just feel optimistic that,

1087
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a lot of goodness that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in this next year. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: for US track and field athletes, the Olympic year is

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Speaker 1: always strange because most contracts come to an end at

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Speaker 1: the end of an Olympic cycle. So yeah, they can

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Speaker 1: just be a lot of change, whether it be you

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00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: know that the road of being a professional athlete comes

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Speaker 1: to an end, or you know your shoe company re

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00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: signs you or another shoe company signs you. But there's

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Speaker 1: I think it can be so daunting, but it can

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Speaker 1: also feel kind of exciting that like a new chapter

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Speaker 1: is around the corner. And I think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: how it feels to me right now.

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Speaker 3: New chapter on deck. I love this.

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Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't ask you before

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Speaker 2: I let you go today.

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Speaker 3: There's two more questions.

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Speaker 2: The first question, if someone goes to your Instagram page

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Speaker 2: right now they see your cameo link, what's the wildest

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Speaker 2: cameo you've ever been asked for?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Okay, well this isn't a cameo, but

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Speaker 1: immediately where my brain went.

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Speaker 4: This is such a weird story.

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Speaker 1: But I lived in when I was still living in

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Speaker 1: Northwest Arkansas, I'm pretty sure I was out of college,

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Speaker 1: like first year out of college, and I went to

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Speaker 1: this furniture store and I was just browsing for my

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Speaker 1: husband and my home, and the lady working at the

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Speaker 1: store just like on the floor, she recognized me. In Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: is not a very big state, and the university gets

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Speaker 1: like a lot of support because we don't have any

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Speaker 1: pro teams in the state. So yeah, the Razorbacks are

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Speaker 1: like very well supported. So this lady recognized me, and

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Speaker 1: she was like, oh my goodness, my boyfriend. She's older

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Speaker 1: than me, right, not like college age. She's like, I'm probably,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty four to twenty five. She's you know,

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Speaker 1: at least mid thirties. And she's like, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend. He's such a huge fan of yours. And

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Speaker 1: I left my number because she was gonna call me

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Speaker 1: back about a piece of furniture. She ends up calling

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Speaker 1: me like the next day. It's not about the furniture,

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Speaker 1: but it's that it's her boyfriend's birthday that they're going

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Speaker 1: out to Showgun, and she wanted to know if I

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Speaker 1: would show up at Showgun in my Razorback uniform and

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Speaker 1: bring cupcakes, which she leaves at the which she's planning

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Speaker 1: on leaving at the front desk of the restaurant at

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Speaker 1: the host stand, and I come up to their table

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Speaker 1: singing her boyfriend Happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, how weird.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I said no.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really sorry, and I made up

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Speaker 1: some excuse that I was busy that night.

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Speaker 4: But that's definitely.

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Speaker 1: The weirdest thing that I've ever been asked to do. Honestly,

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: on cameo it's all pretty tame. It's usually you know,

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Speaker 1: someone is has got a promotion, congratulating them and someone's birthday,

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Speaker 1: someone's running a race like that type of stuff, And

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Speaker 1: I find the cameos pretty fun. But yeah, that request

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Speaker 1: was pretty wild.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely wild. Will That's better than any wonky

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Speaker 3: cameo request.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Dom, Well, right now you have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to give your younger self a piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Dom that was scared to

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Speaker 2: make that big jump moving over to the United States

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Speaker 2: to go to college on a scholarship and run right

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Speaker 2: now knowing what you know, what advice would you tell

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Speaker 2: yourself at that hurdle moment?

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Speaker 3: Oof?

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Speaker 1: H this is this is going to be a deep one.

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Speaker 1: So when I was a senior in high school, I

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Speaker 1: was running well. Obviously coaches in the US were starting

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Speaker 1: to look at me, but I was wondering how I

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Speaker 1: could get faster. So my dad found a nutritionist that

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Speaker 1: I could speak to and you know, give me some input.

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Speaker 1: And the nutritionist she was nutritionist, she wasn't a registered dietitian,

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Speaker 1: which now I know there's a big difference between and

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Speaker 1: she just gave me some very poor advice and I

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Speaker 1: lost a lot of body weight but also strength, and

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Speaker 1: my metabolism just got super duper slow. I also became anemic.

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Speaker 1: And because I lost so much weight that I got

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Speaker 1: picked up by a model agency, which at the time

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Speaker 1: seemed pretty cool, but it was not cool in the

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Speaker 1: long run. I yeah, got slower, I got weaker, and

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Speaker 1: it took my metabolism probably two years to get back

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Speaker 1: to what it was from just probably six months of

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Speaker 1: almost starving myself doing what I thought was correct, right

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Speaker 1: I was. I was following her eating plans, but as

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Speaker 1: a very type a athlete who you know, wanted to

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Speaker 1: be better, I was willing to do whatever that meant.

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Speaker 1: So you know, whether that meant following this eating plan

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Speaker 1: and eating less and eating less carbs, that's what I

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Speaker 1: was going to do. But it really backfired. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I learned the hard way that you can't mess with

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Speaker 1: your metabolism and there's no quick fix, there's no shortcuts

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Speaker 1: to running faster. So yeah, if I could talk to

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Speaker 1: my younger self, eighteen year old self, I would say,

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Speaker 1: don't starve yourself. Listen to your body. Your body is

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Speaker 1: very smart. It will tell you when you need feel

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Speaker 1: If it's craving something, it's because it needs that. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: be very careful about who you listened to with nutrition advice.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is not the direction I thought it was

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Speaker 2: going to go, but I appreciate you for sharing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's a little deep. I haven't shared that one before,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, definitely. Also like just watching some close friends

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Speaker 1: that are struggling with reds, like it's nothing you want

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: to mess with, especially as a female athlete. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: definitely any young girls listening to this, be very careful

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Speaker 1: who you listen to and get nutrition advice from.

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Speaker 3: Good tip.

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you so much for your time, Dom,

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you, not just in Boston but beyond.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. For those that don't follow along

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Speaker 2: with you, just yet give us your info. How do

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Speaker 2: they keep up with you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? For sure.

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Speaker 1: Well my instagram is Dom Scott run ESA say standing

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01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: for South Africa. That's really the platform that I use

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Speaker 1: the most. And then yeah, you can just support me racing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: next race, Boston Marathon on the fifteenth, I think, yeah, Monday,

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Speaker 1: Patriots Day. And yeah, the support is always very much appreciated.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's.

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Speaker 1: A wild world out there now where you know, even

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Speaker 1: social media followers is makes a big difference to you know,

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Speaker 1: how much support you're getting from sponsors.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, all of it means a lot.

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Speaker 3: Follow along, follow along.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at hurdle podcasts and at Emily a Body

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Speaker 2: another hurdle concord.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.