WEBVTT - A Rigid, Sterile Look at Kissing 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:16.360 from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.079 the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck Bryant is 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:25.360 across from me out of kissing distance, and uh, I 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.920 guess that makes this stuff you should know the non 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.640 kissing edition about kissing, which is every single one of 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.319 our shows thus far. Body Farms came close. Yeah, you're right, 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.680 I've urged to make out. Remember I took my shirt off. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.839 Oh that's right. Yeah, And you're like, I'm not doing this. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:44.960 Well that quilled that quilled my urge to make out. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.120 I'm like, oh really, yes, that's what you want and 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.440 you're like, no, put it away. Hey, hey man, it's 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:53.960 been a big month and we're at the end of it, 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.600 aren't we. Yes, October October has been nutty on it. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:03.000 We've been on the TV to twice twice. Yeah, remember 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:08.759 good Day It like yeah, actually he forgot about. Yes, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.039 we were on TV twice, Yes, we were. We went 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.080 to New York. Did he see didd c to South Caroline? Well, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.639 when I us went to South Carolina, more on that later. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.800 And um, this is the end, Chuck, this is this 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.280 is the last work related thing we have to do 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.480 this month. Do you know what stinks is October is 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.520 my favorite month and always has been. And I don't 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.759 feel like I really got to enjoy October this year 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.760 that much. Yeah. I've had Decembers like that. For me. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.920 I loved Christmas time, the holiday season, and um, I've 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.039 had a December like that and I was like this, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.880 someone owes you. Yeah, that's how I feel the universe. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.039 Does the universe owes me in October? Although it's not 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.440 like we were I mean we had a lot of 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.000 great times in New York and stuff. It's not like 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.920 it was an awful experience. No, But I know what 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.600 you mean, Like you have a certain month out of 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.000 the year that's dedicated to certain things, and if you 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:59.480 don't pursue these certain things, then you what's life worth? Exactly? 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.480 But here we are in November almost and uh, we're 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.840 getting back to normal, or at least whatever the new 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.280 normal is. Yeah. So I'm excited. Yeah, me too. You're excited, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.640 and we're talking about kissing today. Right. This is a 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:17.400 very um hard, clinical look at the science of kissing. Yes, which, 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.320 by the way, we should say the science a scientific 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:25.160 study of kissing is called fillymatology p h I L 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:30.880 E M A. So we're fillimatologist for the day. Uh 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:32.720 So let me go ahead, Josh, and then just start 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.799 out clinically saying that anthropologists no one knows for sure 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.760 why we kiss to begin with. There's some theories though, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.680 and one of them anthropologists came up with was that 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:47.399 back when we were evolving humans, but we um that 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.280 mothers would regurgitate or not regurgitate, but they would chew 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.760 up their food. That's regurgitating. I thought regurgitating was when 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.960 you literally like threw it up. Okay, you're right, yes, okay, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.280 But that mothers would take their new more and they 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.000 would chew up their food to then place like a 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.120 bird would into the baby's mouth. And that that evolved 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.520 even once the kid learned how to eat, into just 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.040 affectionate caretaking, right and um, it was a way to 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.919 reassure the kid. It was something that the kid, I imagine, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:21.200 would had come to associate with pleasurable close feelings. Right 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.760 that spitting food into your mouth, well exactly, but that's 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.760 the learned behavior idea, right, and it's the big, one, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.480 big flaw with it there is and it is are 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:37.280 you setting me up? I'm like, you're pointing at Yeah. 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.760 The problem with that is there are some cultures, um, 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.600 indigenous cultures today that still do that with their food 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.960 and um, some of them do not kiss until Westerners 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.040 came along and they were like, you should try kissing. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.000 It's rad right, And the people kissed and they went, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.040 this is rad right, and that was that. But since 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.960 not all of them do that, then that's not proof. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.160 But it kind of lends itself to saying, maybe it's 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.200 not a learned behavior. Um. I had a like, this 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.960 makes sense to me, But I also it makes me wonder, um, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:14.640 if behavior evolves, right, Um, isn't it possible that that 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.960 doesn't always evolve over the same timeline and all cultures 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.840 in all locations. Well, that's what I thought. It didn't 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.760 necessarily prove something, but it is a big it's a 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.760 big flaw that people can just like pick apart like 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.560 so many scats. What about the other side of the coin. Now, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.800 the other side of the coin is that it's instinctive 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.080 and there's a lot of evidence that um, kissing is instinctive. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.040 Elsewhere in the animal kingdom, Um, you see like tigers nuzzling. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.640 It is um apparently snails rob antennae, which is super cute. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.800 Have we ever seen it? Uh? Yes, I have, like 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.200 the slow motion I think Discovery actually had some of that. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.359 Uh it's it's actually rather or maybe it was that 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.680 movie Microcosm, but it looks really lurid. When you see 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:02.160 two snails combining themselves. Ye, up close, it's like, oh 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.080 my god, this is clinical and sterile. Look at things. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.120 I think birds touched beaks. Yeah, and it's it's all 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.200 over the animal kingdom. In a lot of cases, what 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.920 you're seeing is a like smell, their scent glands located 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.799 in the face of some animals in that area. Yeah. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.240 So when you see two tigers, knows only they're like 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:28.760 smelling one another's pheromones or some scent. That's pleasurable. But 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.560 the point is is while they may not be kissing 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.360 as we know it, they're still engaged in pretty much 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.640 the same behavior that establishes bonds, that reinforces trust, and 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.239 that shows that you are close to that that other animal, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.880 that mate, or that kin folk. Yeah, didn't you have 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:52.640 something on the bona bow Apes. Yes, I thought you 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.720 were telling me something about that earlier. I wasn't you weren't. No, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.599 you haven't me confused with someone else. Well, these things 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.760 kissed like crazy. They do, and they kiss regardless of sex, 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.080 regardless of status in the in the pack? Is it 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:10.240 a pack of apes? The family, the tribe? I think 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.160 it's a family, So I mean, trust me, we're gonna 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.560 get email on this one. They kiss all the time, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.560 though they do it to reduce tension after a fight, Uh, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.440 to reassure each other, um the social bonds and for 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.080 no reason at all, you know, the reduced tension after 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.720 a fight. Do you know who? That reminded me of? 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.280 Ronny and Donny Galleon? Remember they kiss and makeup after 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.840 a fight, the world's oldest can joined twins. Yeah, very 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.640 sweet story. They're still with us, aren't they as far 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.839 as I know? Oh goodness, Chuck. Their birthday just happened. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.240 They'd be fifty eight now, that's right. Yeah, we need 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.280 to check in on them, not that they know who 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.320 we are. We're just the creepy guy who followed them 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.440 home from school, all right. So there's there's um arguments 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.040 for and against we should say. Part of the problem 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.400 with um with saying that kissing is instinctive, it's it's 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:07.839 very difficult to prove um and the fact that about 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.200 of all cultures across the world kiss, So if it's instinctive, 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.200 what's up with the other ten percent? Well, they I 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.200 think they found some cultures in Asia and where else? 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.440 South America? South America, but um, I think Africa, right, 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.560 And they said that while it's it's not completely conclusive 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.640 that they do not kiss, some of them may not 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.760 think it's appropriate to like share that with the white 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.360 dude that got off the plane that's asking them about it, right, 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.280 you know, So maybe they don't kiss and tell. But generally, 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.120 I mean everywhere I'll look, said, of all cultures kiss, 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.920 So that's where we're gonna go with. Yeah, and in 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.320 a kissy face culture, which is most of them, as 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.200 we've seen. Um I found Chuck that people spend as 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.600 much as two weeks out of their lives kissing, which 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.640 you want to hear something depressing. That's about as much 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.280 time as we spend waiting for red lights in our lifetime. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.119 I wonder how much time is been kissing at red lights. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.760 I don't know it's a great question. I was wondering 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.560 how much more we would kiss if we spent less 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.520 time at red lights. Yeah, like if maybe it would 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.600 be like three weeks in one week or something like that. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.200 It's a good point. So there are people, as we said, uh, 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:19.360 philematologists who study the science of kissing, of kissy faces 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.640 nous uh. And one of those groups is the Kinsey Institute, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:28.600 named after the famous sex researcher Alfred Kinsey. And they've 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.120 basically found that there are three factors that contribute to 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:38.960 the experience of a kiss, right, yes, and they are biological, psychological, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.280 and social. Yeah, psychological, Um, there's a couple of factors 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.800 within that sub factors. Um. It depends on how you're 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.000 feeling at the time and how you feel about the 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.280 person of how it's going to affect you. Obviously you've 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.880 heard the expression like kissing your sister. That's if you're 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.800 being kissed by someone you don't want to be kissed by, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.559 you're gonna have a completely different reaction slee than when 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.480 you're being kissed by someone you really want to kiss. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.040 And your emotional state at the time you're being kissed 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.360 has a lot to do with it as well. Right, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.880 there's a lot of um physiological processes that your body 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:16.000 undergoes when you're kissing or being kissed. We'll talk about those, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.200 uh in um a little greater detail in a second. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.600 And then there's social factors like how your society views kissing, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.200 like is your first kiss going to be this magical 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.520 experience in society? Who probably going to be looking forward 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.920 to it so much pressure? Right? Is kissing extremely romantic? 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.880 Or is it kind of middle of the road? Um? 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.120 Is it taboo? All of these things are going to 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.480 have an effect on the psychological impact as well. So 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:46.960 there's sociology, biology, and psychology living in harmony on the 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.280 lips of all humans. Yes, and we should we should 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.640 point out that, um, that's not just for lovey dovey kissing. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.040 That's actually for all kinds of kissing. So like when 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.680 a mommy kisses your booboo, those three factors are still 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.240 taking place, obviously, just in a non romantic nature, right, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.400 different different contexts, different sensations, but still there's three different 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.640 aspects to all kisses, of what you're saying, no matter 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.199 what kind of kiss and they all all kisses amount 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.720 to something positive. They're all meant to reinforce some sort 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:26.600 of positive feeling, right, like love, reassurance right, or reassurement, 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.160 reassurement or romantic budding sexuality, all those things. Right that 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.160 when you place the word budding at the beginning of sexuality, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.120 it just makes it so much more awkward. Right, isn't 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.080 that weird budding sexual It's it's weird, well, because it 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.199 implies everything that it is, which is youth. I don't 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.160 even know what's going on. It's budding, That's what I 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:55.280 think at least. Um, I guess, Chuck, we've reached the 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.400 point that we should talk about when people started kissing, 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.679 and um, we should say historians, anthropologists, psychologists. No one 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.320 has any idea exactly when people started kissing because we 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.760 can't even say whether it's instinctive or learned. Right, But 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.640 the earliest accounts that we have of kissing come about 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.840 thirty years ago. Uh, and it's described. It's not that 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.199 word isn't used obviously, um. But what people are taking 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.160 as a description of kissing appears in these ancient Vedic 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.760 texts out of India Sanskrit, Yes, I think they're in Sanskrit. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:39.679 They called it sucking face back then it's involved into kissing. Uh. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.040 After that it started becoming a little more prevate, prevalent 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.040 in art, in literature, that kind of thing, like in 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:50.120 a little text that might sound familiar with the Vatsi 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:55.560 Ya Yana Kama Sutrum uh a k A the Kama 0:11:55.600 --> 0:12:00.400 Sutra a k A Penthouse letters. Yeah. Do you find 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:05.840 it funny that the book on sexual positions was written 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:13.160 three thousand years ago or more, um, sixth century a D. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.080 What I find funny is that no one's really improved 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.520 upon this. You know, Tome, you pretty much wrote the 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:24.120 definitive book on sexual positions and sexuality. I just find 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.040 it interesting. But they also cover kisses, all kinds of 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.719 kisses in the Kamma Sutra, And that was a long 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.200 long time ago. Right, It was written standardized in the 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.280 sixth century a D. But it had been passed down 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:39.200 orally for centuries before that, right, Yes, And um, so 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:43.160 they think that probably, yeah, kissing. They they're not saying 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.240 it originated in India, but this is where the earliest 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:50.400 accounts are. So kissing originated in India. Well, and they 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.520 think that the anthropologists think it's a learned behavior, think 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.600 that Alexander the Great learned about it in India when 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.760 he invaded and was like, this is awesome, let me 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.720 go take this back to Greece, and that he did. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.360 You know, I remember hearing a long time ago that 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.920 um kissing. I don't know where I used to get 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.400 these facts. I think it was the same place where 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.640 I heard that Um Genghis Khan killed one point eight 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.720 million people in an hour. But they said that kissing 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.959 uh was located only in the Mediterranean up until five 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.840 years ago, and that it is a a symbol of 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:33.120 our urge to cannibalize one another. Not true. I don't 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.400 think that's true at all. I don't either. So we're 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.000 in the Roman Empire now, and they kissed a lot. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.040 They kissed as greetings, they kissed their rulers hands sign 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.640 of respect. It was out of respect. And they came 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:51.880 up with the three categorizations of kiss I know, Um, 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.559 the Romans really like to categorize things different types of love. Um, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.440 this one is there's osculum, which is a kiss on 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:02.679 the cheek. There is besium, which is a kiss on 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:08.280 the lips. And then they're seeking guess this one cevolium. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.400 like that's that kind of kiss. Yeah, that's a deep kiss, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.600 and it doesn't necessarily say anything about the French variety, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.440 but um, I think that's just sort of implied, right, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.160 And historians also suspect that UM, a lot of the 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:27.160 kissing traditions we still hold today in the modern era. Um, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:33.080 we're founded originated in um rome, right, Like, there's a 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.840 kissing to seal a wedding, to end a wedding ceremony, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.600 you may now kiss the bride apparently if you've made 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.720 out in front of a bunch of people, like you 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.360 were married room, Like I know, yeah, do you know 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.760 how many people would be married today? Lots of people, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.160 a lot and divorced and married and divorced. And also, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.200 since you said the sealed thing the sealed with a kiss, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.280 we generally think of like a love letters seal with 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.560 the kiss. But back then they used to seal legal 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:07.760 documents with kisses, which is a little weird to me. Well, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.880 it kind of points out it was weird to me too, 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.680 I'm thinking, Um, it points out how seriously people took 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.960 kissing back then it was relatively new, and like this 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.040 is a big new thing, or if if I should 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.960 say the learned behavior proponents are correct. It was relatively new, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.920 and they're like, this is very important, it's very sacred um. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.480 And speaking of sacred it um played a big role 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.880 in the uh, the Catholic Church, there was this thing 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:40.040 called the Holy kiss, right, yeah, the awesome um passes 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.360 and uh they kissed the Holy kiss. Basically they thought 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.960 you were transferring your spirit, well, the Holy Spirit, the 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:50.160 spirit of Christianity. Well, when I say the spirit, your spirit, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.600 he said, yeah, no, the big one, okay, the Trinity, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:16:01.320 the Dove, and uh they unfortunately, the Protestant Reformation killed 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.160 like everything else that was fun killed the Holy kiss 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.200 as well. Well, not just that it's um. It also 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.360 gave rise to articles like this because in fact, writing 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:14.040 a very sterile scientific article I'm kissing is a very 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.640 very Protestant thing to do. It's a very Protestant activity 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.320 to engage in. Ye, you're right, and I never thought 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.520 about that, but yeah, it went from like they the Christians, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.240 the early Catholics kissed one another mass that was the 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.480 holy kiss um, and then the in the thirteenth century 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.080 the church was like, no, kiss this board instead, and 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.200 they call it a pack s board or sport. So 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.840 everybody kissed that, and then the Protestants came along and 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.160 they're like, no kissing. Everybody just stare forward, not even 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.720 the packs board, no pack sport. Really, there's no more kissing. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.000 And then in Catholicism it finally just basically went to 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.400 the Pope's ring. That's what's kissed now, is the Pope's ring. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.560 You know. I went to a church conference when I 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:57.320 was a teenager and they were playing music and it 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.200 was a big thing along type of thing, and they 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.440 said something about out. One of the guys says, you know, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.200 don't stomp your feet to rhythmically because that's a little 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.480 too close to dancing. I remember that distinctly. Made it 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:14.960 a big impression on me. It was like foot loose, yeah, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:18.040 and you were vow No, I started dancing. I started 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:24.960 Breakdancing's val oh name. Yeah, my buddy's working on that 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.080 remake right now with Zac Efron. No, he's not in it. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.520 I'm just supposed to. He was first tapped to play it. No, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:37.000 it's a bunch of unknowns and Dennis Quaid, Okay, he's 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.439 the preacher. Uh So let's talk about a little more 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:47.160 non fun sterile things like the orbicularis or us. Let's 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.960 see that the orbicularious hours. Well, yeah, there's certain muscles 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.199 that you use when you kiss, and in a very standard, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:18:00.199 no frills kiss, the puckered kiss. That's the obiculary us 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.720 orris at work, that facial muscle. But a few people 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:10.880 kiss like that, they did, we would not reproduce right. Um, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.000 So there's a bunch of other muscles involved. Um, one 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.000 of which, well several of which actually tilt your head 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.520 to the side, because apparently about three two thirds of 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:24.240 people who kiss, so two thirds of humans who kiss 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.439 tilt their head to the side, to the right, to 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.439 the rights. Yeah, and apparently we develop a preference for 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.080 this in utero. Isn't that weird? Yeah, but and it 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.040 seems so natural to me. I just tilted my head 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.879 to the left, and I can't imagine going to kiss 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.280 my wife and tilting my head to the left. Well, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.400 one of the problems is, since everybody's tilting to the right, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.320 if you tilted your head to the left, you'd go 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.360 in well at the same angle too. That's so awkward. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.600 It is awkward. Like the teeth knock. That's when you 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.640 know things aren't gonna work out with the teeth knock. Yeah, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.200 if that if that's happening early on, I think it 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.240 depends on the reaction. Well, you can laugh at off 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.560 and stuff, that's huge, but you should also kind of 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.280 sort of have that chemistry. I think innately, a teeth 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.480 knock is not a deal breaker. Wow, you're I'm pretty tough. 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.359 That's why I didn't date much. That's funny. I was 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.800 turning left and knocking teeth. They're like, look, Leslie, I'm 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.720 I'm very sorry. Like you're a very nice girl, and um, 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.200 I like your parents a lot. But um, your teeth 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.119 brushed against mine in one of our early kisses. They 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.439 just can't go anything. That's why I got married at 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:34.240 like thirty six. No teeth knocking. No teeth knocking. Kid. Uh, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.600 do you want to cover those muscles? It's a lot 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:41.040 of boring names. No, but I'll talk about what they 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.160 what they do. Like them. There's other other muscles move 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.360 the lips around, so instead of just puckering, you can 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:52.640 be like one right, right, I just use several muscles, 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.720 muscle groups. Um. There's also ones that um pull the 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:02.600 corner of your mouth down and and lower your lower lip. Right. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.400 The depressor angli oris apparently, if you hear the word 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.080 oris in reference to a muscle, it's a facial muscle 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:13.679 that is involved in kissing right, right. And then importantly, 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:18.000 I would say the genial glasses, stylo glosses, palatea glosses, 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:24.320 and higho glosses, all those muscles operate your tongue. If 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.879 if as Tracy Wilson, who wrote this article puts it, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.440 if you decide to use it, right, if you're from 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.240 France and that's how you kiss, those four muscles are 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.760 are going to control your tongue. I was kind of 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.920 surprised at first it was those four muscles. But when 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.640 you look at the tongue, it's extremely malleable, and there's 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:44.919 all sorts of like you know, you can make You 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.399 can roll your tongue and make clovers out of your tongue, 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:52.879 and it's very specific, control, controllable, a piece of your body. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:54.880 Digit Is it a digit? I guess have you ever 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.359 seen a tongue outside of the mouth? Um? What do 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:03.960 you mean? Like a surgical removed tongue, not a human one? Gross? Yeah? 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:09.400 I saw one at the Atomic Bomb Memorial Museum in Hiroshima. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.639 The guy whose tongue was taken out. It turned like 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.760 black because he was exposed to radio activity. And I 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.000 can't I've seen two. This was one of two tongues 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.440 that I've seen completely removed, but there's like the soft 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.639 palates attached. It like spreads out and back. It's really 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.480 interesting looking crazy. Yeah, you don't want to see a 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.199 tongue outside of the both well, especially when that's you know, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.560 was bombed, right, I'm sure that didn't help. Uh So 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.919 obviously Josh too, what happens when you kisses you You 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.600 like everything with the brain, you have to have them 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:42.399 the nerves from your face sending messages to your brain 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.040 telling your brain what's going on, and that stimulates a 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.960 lot of things like dopamine and serotonin. Oxytocin is becoming 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.520 an increasingly Yeah, that's a big one important neurotransmitters. The 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:58.680 deal there, Well, it creates some feelings of affection, attachment, loyalty. Um, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.440 it's uh. They they think that love in a lot 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:06.320 of ways, especially intense early romantic love, resembles addiction. So 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:08.640 there's there's a lot of dopamine that gets released when 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.920 you see the person that you're attracted to. But then 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:15.760 over time, um, it can it turns into long lasting 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.480 companionship love that's toxic toacin at work. And it's also 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:25.639 very big in milk production as well, so it um 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.720 so it that's very strange that I would have done that, 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:33.520 but um it's it's present. It forces milk production. It's 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.400 also transferred from mother to child through breastfeeding, so it 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.040 promotes feelings of attachment through that as well. How about 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:44.440 that adrenaline, our old buddy with the flight, fight or 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.000 flight that we haven't talked about in a while, and uh, 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.360 all sorts of natural endorphins make that euphoric feeling come alive. 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:56.600 And not only that, it actually increases your heart rate 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.760 and your your blood starts pumping more and you're getting 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.320 more oxygen to your body just from kissing. Even if 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:08.040 you're you know, let's say, lying down, you know, lying down, 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.119 if you're in a prone position, let's say, and you're 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.560 kissing somebody, your heart rate is still get increases if 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.760 you were like exercising, right, I think you're prepping for 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:21.720 physical activity relations. I think so, thank you. Should we 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.639 mention the one study and I know we looked at 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.879 this when we did the webcast about the smell. Yeah, 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:30.160 This fascinates me. I have I want to believe it's 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:36.960 correct because it's just so it's elegantly simple. Yeah, but UM, 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.560 but I think you should take it. This is this 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.879 is yours, well, it's I think it's. The situation is, um, 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:48.080 you can reproduce, you can reproduce with somebody who has 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.800 a different immune system. If you reproduce someone with different 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:55.440 immune qualities that you have, you will produce a more robust, 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.840