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Speaker 3: Why nobody talking about for the first time?
Speaker 4: Christmas is on twenty five, twenty five, twenty five. Baby,
Speaker 4: we never gonna get this time again?
Speaker 3: December? This December?
Speaker 4: Baby, blessings on, type of blessings on, type of blessings.
Speaker 5: You hear me?
Speaker 4: Twenty five, twenty five, twenty five, Baby, somebody finna hit
Speaker 4: the lot on. Somebody finnah really really really run into
Speaker 4: some big money, because Baby, that never happens.
Speaker 3: Let it be Meana, Amen, Amen?
Speaker 6: What happy?
Speaker 5: Twenty five?
Speaker 7: Twenty five twenty.
Speaker 6: What's the third? What's the third? Twenty five?
Speaker 3: The first, the third, the first twenty five years grow.
Speaker 7: The second one is the day, the first one. We
Speaker 7: don't know what that twenty five is.
Speaker 6: Well, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm keeping multip twelve the month two.
Speaker 3: Twenty five, twenty five.
Speaker 7: But some have a question, since the girl got twenty
Speaker 7: five twenty five twenty five, what's your question?
Speaker 3: I have a question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first question, the most important question of the day,
Speaker 1: the jackpot question, the power ball question is can you
Speaker 1: name for me, what the twenty fifth month is?
Speaker 3: Nobody?
Speaker 7: Can y'all go the twenty well anyway before we get
Speaker 7: to it, that I can name to you that it
Speaker 7: is episode one eleven.
Speaker 6: It was one.
Speaker 5: Twenty five and welcome home.
Speaker 7: So we got twenty five, twenty twenty five, twenty five
Speaker 7: and one eleven came said, so we got we got
Speaker 7: a lot of symmetry happening with the numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm still confused to believe, because I believe she believed
Speaker 2: deeply she did really.
Speaker 5: Try to make twenty fifth first twenty five.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know.
Speaker 7: But welcome home to the viewers on this episode for
Speaker 7: twenty five, twenty five, twenty five we do over the hose.
Speaker 3: And when I say hoes, I mean ho ho.
Speaker 7: Merry Christmas and happy holidays whatever holiday you're celebrating today,
Speaker 7: and thank you for joining us for Native LAMPI I'm
Speaker 7: gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: You remember in the host.
Speaker 7: I always remember the hole. Every December, I remember the host.
Speaker 3: I do it hose.
Speaker 8: And more than just a month somebody got mad at us.
Speaker 1: They were like, you guys's whole jokes are not funny,
Speaker 1: and I think they're very funny.
Speaker 8: What was our whole joke about do you guys remember.
Speaker 1: No, we need to know, but we had a hope
Speaker 1: it was a whole joke. I think Andrew said something
Speaker 1: whole and we kept letting.
Speaker 3: Roll with it, hope, roll with something. You did it?
Speaker 3: We thought you did.
Speaker 7: You were saying something and we thought we were like,
Speaker 7: did you just say oh?
Speaker 8: We kept saying it yeah, yeah, and people got mad.
Speaker 5: Yes, that was because y'all kept missing.
Speaker 1: It's because they're not in twenty five twenty five, So welcome, y'all.
Speaker 3: Right, welcome, we're talking about it or where are we going?
Speaker 1: So you know what I want to talk about, y'all.
Speaker 1: So I actually want to get into Grinch energy. And
Speaker 1: it's not because I like it. I think it needs
Speaker 1: to be conquered. And so there is a new movie
Speaker 1: out you guys know about the most to B classics
Speaker 1: if you don't shout out to the machetes that always
Speaker 1: keep us young and fresh on the Grinches, there's one
Speaker 1: called The Grinch Who Sold.
Speaker 8: The Bishes.
Speaker 3: Stealing bits. That's what the movie called.
Speaker 1: Now I want to just well, I want let's roll
Speaker 1: the trailer first.
Speaker 3: And then let's talk about it. On the other side.
Speaker 6: There no way to fix your duncle. Did you about
Speaker 6: that ginger bread?
Speaker 9: They ain't no blessing take reglary riddles, mult for your
Speaker 9: release has been granted.
Speaker 6: Pack your shit.
Speaker 10: What time shall shut hey about to say? Don when
Speaker 10: we probably take money? Anything made a hunt and old Sun.
Speaker 3: Because that stitch.
Speaker 5: It's fantastic spell like who free hoo free wo will and.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna call it right now to we gotta go.
Speaker 7: They gotta kill two be they gotta go because it's
Speaker 7: owned by Fox and Roger and all the bad people.
Speaker 3: In the airwaves.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, because I know that I know the nigga.
Speaker 11: I know the nigga is still in everybody's bitches around Chris,
Speaker 11: I know it.
Speaker 7: Roger Hill steal in our minds with this stupid Toobie bullshit.
Speaker 11: But tell us that it's a grinch and then we
Speaker 11: all got one.
Speaker 6: We all got one. He gonna show up with something.
Speaker 11: He's gonna show it with somebody else on Christmas that
Speaker 11: he showed up with on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 8: Okay, that could be a thing.
Speaker 3: That could be a thing. This movie. I just want
Speaker 3: to tell y'all.
Speaker 1: I watched the first five minutes of it and had
Speaker 1: to turn it off, and no, I know it felt
Speaker 1: like it. No, it was a long trailer that it
Speaker 1: really didn't get to the point. But I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: tell you guys, it actually is giving soft porn. And
Speaker 1: so I was just like, I didn't know that's what
Speaker 1: we was signing up for.
Speaker 5: It was it was like you and soft porn.
Speaker 1: That the Grinch had a BJ situation with another fuzzy
Speaker 1: green lady and then she.
Speaker 3: He was going after.
Speaker 1: So technically the premise is he's going after Santa Claus's hose.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why Santa Claus got hose. They
Speaker 1: got one part in the movie where he's like Martin
Speaker 1: Luther clause I was offended. So there's just you know,
Speaker 1: stuff happening now. I do want to say that tub
Speaker 1: does provide space for black independent content creators.
Speaker 7: And I just want to conct myself of Roger L's.
Speaker 7: But it's the Murdocks. It's the Murdox who Ownsvie. This
Speaker 7: is the same company Fox Corporations, which has its tentacles
Speaker 7: and almost every right wing conservative outlet, and they.
Speaker 5: Are worked for.
Speaker 7: Yes, thank you exactly, but you gots, they're pumping this
Speaker 7: stupid ship into the atmosphere, and I want you saying
Speaker 7: they give space for black content creators, and I wonder
Speaker 7: if that's true exactly one. I want to know who
Speaker 7: are the people producing these movies and films?
Speaker 3: Who's funding them? And this one name is Malik.
Speaker 7: I just want to know who's all behind it, you know,
Speaker 7: because right now I'm like, we got the Trump wing
Speaker 7: of the media funding to b and I want to
Speaker 7: know if a black content creator comes up with something
Speaker 7: a little less ignorant, do they get the green light
Speaker 7: or do they like, no, yo, shit got to be ignorant,
Speaker 7: shit to be on TV?
Speaker 3: No, they have all movies on their too.
Speaker 6: Right there, we're taking this too serious.
Speaker 11: I think I think we should just I think we
Speaker 11: should explore days school days.
Speaker 1: But because they have some old movies on there. But
Speaker 1: I don't want to people to know who owns it,
Speaker 1: who's putting it out there?
Speaker 11: I think that's I mean, I'm more concerned about was
Speaker 11: Sance got hold and who Let's get.
Speaker 2: To that lights up green for the holiday?
Speaker 3: We found the stole bitches.
Speaker 6: Watch this?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 8: Why does that too?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 7: Oh way, okay, remember we found out our screens were
Speaker 7: doing the hearts and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Worked.
Speaker 3: Can we get to the bites? Okay, yes, I.
Speaker 7: Don't want to promote to be I want to talk
Speaker 7: about the actual grinch. You out here stealing bitches. But
Speaker 7: Kari has called out somebody who's saying, you're bringing somebody
Speaker 7: to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Somebody knew to Christmas. What's up with that? Y'all know?
Speaker 11: So also the young fellas out here listening, I mean,
Speaker 11: you probably should have broke up with them right after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 11: You break up with them right after Thanksgiving, and then
Speaker 11: you recognize you made the mistake, probably around March first.
Speaker 6: It's a cost saving mechanism in this time of inflation.
Speaker 3: That's aw awful, awful, horrible.
Speaker 2: But I do want to know if y'all have to
Speaker 2: wait till Marsh to break up, I mean you go
Speaker 2: through you No, no, no get back Valentine's get back?
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no no.
Speaker 7: No after Thanksgiving, no Priscess, no Valentines if it was me, No.
Speaker 5: This is operating information.
Speaker 3: Yeah your King day trip?
Speaker 6: No you, no King day trip because they want to
Speaker 6: go to the museum.
Speaker 3: You got That's a lot, okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I want to know if you all have
Speaker 1: a grinch who's stoleshes in twenty twenty five that you
Speaker 1: want to talk about.
Speaker 3: If not, I have one, go first, I'll come up
Speaker 3: with one after. No, I don't want to go first.
Speaker 1: I think mine is a good closer grinch who stole
Speaker 1: twenty like I got the top one in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Oh, Nancy Pelosi and Hakei, Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to go political with your I'm just asking.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm asking political show.
Speaker 3: I'm with it.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Uh, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 11: Sharon More Okay, talked.
Speaker 8: About about the last episode in case y'all missed that.
Speaker 3: Check it out tip you got.
Speaker 13: This?
Speaker 7: Uh jackass? I used to date. I would say, he's
Speaker 7: you asked, so don't do the party of em?
Speaker 14: Now?
Speaker 6: What do you do to you? What happened?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 3: You about that?
Speaker 7: No, I didn't talk about this because you brought up
Speaker 7: something that made me think about it. He so New
Speaker 7: Year's Eve, this wasn't This is like maybe two New
Speaker 7: Year's Eves ago. He like, you know, if we're not
Speaker 7: spending New Year's Eve together like this is done though,
Speaker 7: Like he understand you gotta smash on New Year's precisely.
Speaker 7: And so when he told me, he was like, he
Speaker 7: has a challenging related with his sons, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take my son to Kenya for New Year's Eve.
Speaker 7: I just think this is a time for us to
Speaker 7: bond and reconnect, and like giving me details about the
Speaker 7: trip everything. And this New York did not take his son.
Speaker 7: I'd later found out that he took a woman with him,
Speaker 7: And my old thing like, why lie, tell me the
Speaker 7: truth so then I can stop fucking talking to you.
Speaker 7: He's just an awful, dark, spirited, horrible fucking human being
Speaker 7: who is a great who sold my Christmas.
Speaker 5: Doubt should be shrouded and as much truth as you could, I.
Speaker 7: Agree, Like, just honestly, how would you all have handled
Speaker 7: that situation? If you are men, if you were single,
Speaker 7: I would.
Speaker 6: Have told you, mean, which situation? How would I have
Speaker 6: lied to you? Bet?
Speaker 1: I'm saying we're talking, No, don't do that, he said,
Speaker 1: how would he have lied to you better?
Speaker 3: Honestly?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 3: That was your okay?
Speaker 7: If you're like, I would have lied, but I would
Speaker 7: have told a better lie. But if somebody you're seeing
Speaker 7: regularly you're talking every day, starting, ending your days together,
Speaker 7: all the things.
Speaker 5: But you know, for New Year kids, this is.
Speaker 1: I just interjected the point of privilege. But and then
Speaker 1: I do want to hear from the men point of privilege.
Speaker 1: If y'all saw this, nigga.
Speaker 5: Okay, he gets what I tell you.
Speaker 8: I can't wait to see him next.
Speaker 1: I can be like, you don't know how good you
Speaker 1: had it because you gave your big ass a chance.
Speaker 1: Like I am so irritated by the fact that he
Speaker 1: has now taken up two of our show and you.
Speaker 7: But Andrew said he would not have used his kids
Speaker 7: in a lie, which I also thought was such a
Speaker 7: shitty thing to do.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what kind of.
Speaker 6: Person that I don't know?
Speaker 11: Man, if you gonna if you're gonna go big, if
Speaker 11: you're gonna go big, I mean you already.
Speaker 6: In Kenyon he is big.
Speaker 5: He don't have anyway, So I mean, like.
Speaker 11: I would you gotta add you gotta add a love
Speaker 11: you got And then you gotta say, look.
Speaker 3: To get in trouble for fat shaming again, Yeah.
Speaker 6: You are about to.
Speaker 11: But look you gotta oh well, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 11: throw a little I mean, got those little truth in there.
Speaker 5: No, you gotta throw a lot of truth in a lie.
Speaker 5: He's involve your kids.
Speaker 3: I agree, he definitely shouldn't. Is a shitty human being
Speaker 3: who does that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you, if you're gonna lie, get
Speaker 2: close to the truth as you can, because that's feire lies.
Speaker 5: You have to create, right you You know, Yes, I
Speaker 5: did go to Keny. I told you I was going
Speaker 5: to King.
Speaker 6: How did you know? How did you know that he
Speaker 6: was with her?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is how dumb he is. I told him
Speaker 3: like months later. I told him.
Speaker 7: I was like, and I know for a fact I
Speaker 7: found out. It doesn't matter how I know you lied
Speaker 7: about Kenya, but I didn't know.
Speaker 3: He's just like, okay, okay, let me just say let
Speaker 3: me you.
Speaker 6: Gotta this, dude, you got to stand in it.
Speaker 14: You got.
Speaker 8: Just saw him text you guys a picture.
Speaker 3: If you guys saw him, you.
Speaker 1: Will be so frustrated about the fact that he is
Speaker 1: now monopolized.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised that he's monopo like that. He's anonymous.
Speaker 11: Tiffany has a big heart, so she probably like she
Speaker 11: probably like ugly man, ugly dolls. I'm not going to
Speaker 11: Tiffany got a huge heart, so I ain't surprised.
Speaker 6: She probably got a bunch of little falls.
Speaker 5: She got a big brain, has a big brain.
Speaker 8: Over Nick said, we're being rude.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go on.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we'll move Okay, But that was before we get
Speaker 1: before we get to Andrews grinch, which I think is important.
Speaker 3: He's right.
Speaker 8: We have been all the way in the ratchet nonsense
Speaker 8: of the human beings.
Speaker 11: That we are.
Speaker 3: We are complex.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into politics. But I just have to
Speaker 1: run that old thing back real quick. The biggest grinch who.
Speaker 8: Stole the bitches A twenty twenty five is this one
Speaker 8: right here?
Speaker 5: Rolle a clip. Look at these two?
Speaker 6: All right, I'm k what.
Speaker 5: Either that having an.
Speaker 14: Affair than this green shut A new wrinkle in the
Speaker 14: viral scandal sweeping social media. Tonight, astronomer CEO Andy Byron
Speaker 14: has been placed on leave. That him and oh yeah,
Speaker 14: he disappeared. It comes days after a clip from the
Speaker 14: Coldplay concert in Boston. It caught him on the jumbo
Speaker 14: tron cozying up of the company's HR chief, Kristen Cabot.
Speaker 3: That's her.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, she turned around to the company opened a
Speaker 14: formal investigation and says it holds its employees to a
Speaker 14: high standard.
Speaker 3: Not her, she can't be here for our ratchet congress.
Speaker 3: Where's she going? And see her?
Speaker 14: She was in.
Speaker 1: So here's what I just got to say, right, not
Speaker 1: her trying to pinpoint and pivot to the communication strategy
Speaker 1: while talking to the lady to turn bright red the
Speaker 1: same color as me and tiff shirts.
Speaker 8: And I just want to acknowledge, like this is a
Speaker 8: hot mess, this thing.
Speaker 1: They tried to say first that her husband who she
Speaker 1: was separated from, was at the concert to with a date.
Speaker 3: He wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was a whole big mess. And I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, he is the biggest grinch who Soda bishes
Speaker 1: in twenty.
Speaker 2: Talking about open secrets though they in the box with
Speaker 2: all the employees right like this is and now the corporation.
Speaker 5: Like and invites an investigation into it is like an
Speaker 5: open secret. Why y'all, why y'all playing?
Speaker 6: Stop playing?
Speaker 5: Everybody knows this happens.
Speaker 1: You know who need to stop playing is Bakari with
Speaker 1: this raggedy computer. But while we wait for Bakari's raggedy computer,
Speaker 1: there he is. So why but Andrew, you were you
Speaker 1: brought up something that's important. One of the other grinches
Speaker 1: that's stealing everything is your president. And so one person
Speaker 1: who has been a regular hero since he shook that
Speaker 1: cane at Donald J. Trump during his joint address earlier
Speaker 1: this year is Al Green, Congressman Al Green, who introduced
Speaker 1: articles of impeachment. Of course, last week, I'm sorry, a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago there was a motion to table.
Speaker 6: Of that.
Speaker 1: Of those articles of impeachment. Bakari has lost us. He
Speaker 1: is not impeached, but he's just gone for a moment.
Speaker 1: Y'all pray for his computers. Still continue the prayers. But Andrew,
Speaker 1: I want to hear what your thoughts are here. In fact,
Speaker 1: I want to run Al Green's clip and then Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi's response, and then let's get your thoughts on either
Speaker 1: side of that.
Speaker 9: Purpose, is this gentleman from Texas seek recognition to address
Speaker 9: the House for one minute to revise and extend my remarks.
Speaker 6: With that objection.
Speaker 15: The gentleman is recognized, mister speaker, and still a rise
Speaker 15: to note that tonight I have called for the impeachment
Speaker 15: of Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America.
Speaker 9: He is an abuser of presidential power.
Speaker 16: He has called for the execution of members of the
Speaker 16: House of Representatives of this very house.
Speaker 9: He has the mean members of the judiciary.
Speaker 16: He has conducted himself in office such that persons are
Speaker 16: now threatening members of the Judiciary, threatening members of the
Speaker 16: House of Representatives, threatening members of the Senate. Donald John Trump,
Speaker 16: by his conduct merits impeachment, trial and conviction in the
Speaker 16: Senate of the United States of America, and should never
Speaker 16: hold any office of public trust.
Speaker 9: Ever Again, I yield back.
Speaker 15: Members are reminded to refrain from engaging in personalities towards
Speaker 15: the President.
Speaker 3: Just to make sure I understand you. This should not
Speaker 3: be the agenda of Democrats in the last years.
Speaker 13: He crosses the border.
Speaker 3: But that's not.
Speaker 13: An incidental thing. You say we're going to do that. No,
Speaker 13: there has to be cause, there has to be reason.
Speaker 5: We had review.
Speaker 13: This was a very serious historic thing, and our founders
Speaker 13: knew that there could be a rogue president, and that's
Speaker 13: why they put impeachment in the constitution. They didn't know
Speaker 13: there'd be a rogue president at the same time, a
Speaker 13: rogue Senate that didn't have the courage to do the
Speaker 13: right thing. That's what's bipartisan in the Senate.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't I know, So, Andrew, I want I
Speaker 1: just got to hear from you on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about what tools do we have
Speaker 1: to fight fascism? We are talking about someone who is
Speaker 1: literally stealing from the American people when you look at
Speaker 1: the terms that like, what are the reasons that someone
Speaker 1: could be impeached in the Constitution? I don't know what
Speaker 1: else is needed? Can you please wait in here, Andrew?
Speaker 2: So, I hat what I hate mostly so obviously according
Speaker 2: to the Constitution, high crimes and misdemeanors of the foundation
Speaker 2: for and impeachment and removal of a president, bribery. But
Speaker 2: but so again, and we can all go through the
Speaker 2: list of what we think already qualifies for this.
Speaker 5: But what upsets me most about eliminating.
Speaker 2: Impeachment as an option already right before Democrats ever find
Speaker 2: themselves in a position of power. Here again, if we're
Speaker 2: looking toward the midterms and a desire to see accountability
Speaker 2: hell against the transgressions of this administration, I don't understand.
Speaker 2: And again, I think we predicted this a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: if not months ago, that the biggest fear that I
Speaker 2: have about Democrats regaining control, regaining power, is that they
Speaker 2: are not going to do what is necessary, what is
Speaker 2: required to show that there are repercussions to actions. So
Speaker 2: if you're the Secretary of Defense, if you're the secretary
Speaker 2: of State, you can go before congressional committees and Senate
Speaker 2: panels and so on and so forth, completely disrespect and
Speaker 2: disregard the members, not answer the questions, flout the Constitution
Speaker 2: and the laws, act outside of the realms.
Speaker 5: Of your authority.
Speaker 2: And already Democrats are going to forecast that we're not
Speaker 2: going to do a damn thing about it. That doesn't,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, do anything to rein in the already
Speaker 2: outrageous acts of mouthfeasance, misfeasans, illegality, that this administration is
Speaker 2: already deeply, deeply embroiled in. I said, my bar for
Speaker 2: Democrats who are running for public office is already at
Speaker 2: the lowest. I mean, really, it's bare minimum. Can you
Speaker 2: vote and do you oppose the illegal actions of this administration?
Speaker 2: And are you willing to vote, you know, consistent with that.
Speaker 2: I can't understand why we would handicap ourselves before the
Speaker 2: American people ever make a decision around whether or not
Speaker 2: we can be trusted with power. It has already been
Speaker 2: said by the American people that their biggest disappointment with
Speaker 2: Democrats is that they're weak. Yeah, Democrats and Republicans are
Speaker 2: reflecting the same outrage over Democrats.
Speaker 5: And that is that they're weak.
Speaker 2: And already, I just think we're showing our weakness and
Speaker 2: it's frustrating and it's uninspiring to want to go out
Speaker 2: and work for a party and knock on doors and
Speaker 2: encourage people to go vote for a party who is
Speaker 2: going to sit idle and allow the president to keep
Speaker 2: getting away with the same stuff he got away within
Speaker 2: yr one of the second administration.
Speaker 5: I just it's.
Speaker 2: Stupid and I don't ever want to see people in
Speaker 2: power who were going to begin by negotiating against themselves.
Speaker 5: That's it, Tiff, you know what.
Speaker 1: I know that this is not your favorite topic, but
Speaker 1: I just I want to come to you for just
Speaker 1: a second because I think that we all on this
Speaker 1: show have a deep passion, concern and desire to see justice.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at the Constitution, it is bribery,
Speaker 1: it is treason, it is other high crimes and misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: We know this man hasn't just been charged and indicted
Speaker 1: for some of these crimes that we're talking about. He
Speaker 1: was also found guilty in some of these cases, so
Speaker 1: they already have the evidence. I think what's frustrating about
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's take on this, and even Hakim Jeffreys and
Speaker 1: all of Democratic leadership, to be honest, they put out
Speaker 1: a statement the day that the motion to table was
Speaker 1: considered in the House, which is basically saying, we are
Speaker 1: saying we are not gonna consider this impeachment resolution. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna consider the articles of impeachment motion and table
Speaker 1: means it's basically dead on arrival. So when you consider
Speaker 1: all of that and know what he's already been found
Speaker 1: guilty of, they're saying, oh, we need a really extensive
Speaker 1: investigation process. They've done that, right, so why, like, what
Speaker 1: else do they need to see? Is it to Andrew's point,
Speaker 1: is it just weakness? Is it because they don't think
Speaker 1: they would win because they don't have the majority?
Speaker 7: What do you think the reason is all of the above? One,
Speaker 7: I don't think they will win because they don't have
Speaker 7: the majority. I think it would be exhaustive to other
Speaker 7: efforts that they're trying to pursue and I'm not giving
Speaker 7: them a pass by any means.
Speaker 3: But Angelo, on the podcast that we did.
Speaker 7: Last week, Bacari said, until white Christian men want this
Speaker 7: nation to change, it won't change. I didn't know how
Speaker 7: I felt about that when he said that. We didn't
Speaker 7: have time, but I wanted to come to you and
Speaker 7: ask you about that, because that's so that anytime I
Speaker 7: got to put my life or my life we live
Speaker 7: in the hands of white folks. Yes, that is a
Speaker 7: that is a weight that I can't even hold. And
Speaker 7: I want to encounter that point and say the changes
Speaker 7: that black folks have stood on the line and force
Speaker 7: this country into against the will of white men. I
Speaker 7: just don't know that that's true. So if it is
Speaker 7: up to us to defend and help and save and
Speaker 7: preserve ourselves to which the country would benefit, then I
Speaker 7: say I am also not really thinking about impeachment because
Speaker 7: I don't know if that works. I'm thinking about a
Speaker 7: reimagination of the entire structure of this country and government.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what that looks like.
Speaker 7: I really don't, But I know that we've already gone
Speaker 7: through articles of impeachment. We've already seen that, We've already
Speaker 7: established that white folks look at that Constitution like it's
Speaker 7: just a piece of paper. And the second we don't
Speaker 7: like what it says, we can just imagine something different.
Speaker 7: We can just say something different. It's the second we
Speaker 7: don't like Congress, we can just render them useless. The
Speaker 7: second we don't like these courts, we can just dismiss them.
Speaker 7: They have solidating so much power to the executive branch.
Speaker 7: I just don't know that operating within this system to
Speaker 7: disrupt it is the move anymore.
Speaker 3: I really don't, so I kind of I.
Speaker 7: Take both of y'all points about the frustration around it
Speaker 7: and the weakness. Yes, Democrats are feckless at this moment.
Speaker 7: I've not seen a lot of fight other than from
Speaker 7: a few people like our sister Ariana Presley, Congressman from Massachusetts,
Speaker 7: Jasmine Crockett, Because sometimes the fight is in these streets.
Speaker 7: Sometimes the fight is in policy in the halls of Congress,
Speaker 7: and there are things happening, they just don't get as
Speaker 7: much attention. So I'm not saying that's what it has
Speaker 7: to be. But I think I don't know even Congress
Speaker 7: is existing within the structure of government that's crumbling.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know. I just think
Speaker 3: we got to take this fight on a whole other level.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, Tiff on that, And I
Speaker 2: just want to say I'm not making bed with getting
Speaker 2: in bed with impeachment as an only tool. I just
Speaker 2: think you don't remove any tool from the table. And
Speaker 2: more specifically, I'm concer about Congressional Democrats deciding, Oh, we're
Speaker 2: not going to hold hearings on killing people in the
Speaker 2: open ocean. No, we're not going to interrogate the Defense
Speaker 2: secretary on what it means to take a sitting US
Speaker 2: senator court martial him over whether or not his repeating
Speaker 2: in a campaign had what is already in these military
Speaker 2: books of discipline and code that they are already taught
Speaker 2: that they're repeating of that is somehow flouting the law
Speaker 2: or against the president, or more important, I forget against
Speaker 2: the president, against the constitution, because it encourages treason or
Speaker 2: disorder within the armed services.
Speaker 5: So impeachment being the highest and.
Speaker 2: The greatest degree of accountability that might exist for the
Speaker 2: Congress is at one end, But what about at the
Speaker 2: other end, holding people accountable just through the committee process,
Speaker 2: through the investigatory process, to all these people out, because
Speaker 2: if there is no accountability, y'all, who is to dissuade
Speaker 2: the next person in, the next person and the next
Speaker 2: person for coming through and doing the exact same thing,
Speaker 2: if not worse, It is not okay for the people
Speaker 2: who are right now, open in our face flouting the law,
Speaker 2: are standing against the law, and are quite frankly just
Speaker 2: acting illegally to be able to get away with that.
Speaker 6: The court had the US.
Speaker 2: Supreme Court may have given cover to the US president
Speaker 2: to to to to break the law while he's president,
Speaker 2: but that cover does not extend to a secretary of Defense,
Speaker 2: a secretary of State, any department leader, or anybody else
Speaker 2: below the office of presidency. And so what are we
Speaker 2: going to do to hold those people accountable so that
Speaker 2: the people who succeed them in those offices understand that
Speaker 2: you don't have the ability, the right, and the cover
Speaker 2: of the law to go out and just break the
Speaker 2: law and get away with it.
Speaker 5: I think that's not okay.
Speaker 1: I think that's the part for me, right Like tif
Speaker 1: of course, like if we were to consider this on
Speaker 1: a spectrum or like you know, just like what we
Speaker 1: do what we desire and what we deserve. I'm with
Speaker 1: you on the reimagination and then the implementation of what
Speaker 1: it is that we reimagine. But in the meantime, what
Speaker 1: I know is that we don't deserve the harm that's
Speaker 1: being exacted upon us, and then the division and the
Speaker 1: dissension that it's sowing as a result of those things.
Speaker 8: So I do want some stopgap.
Speaker 1: So I'm not talking about articles of impeachment as the aspiration.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it as a stopgap. And so I'm
Speaker 1: confused about you know, when Republicans are in the minority,
Speaker 1: I really do think this is beyond Party two.
Speaker 8: At some point we should have that conversation.
Speaker 1: But when Republicans are in the minority, there's not a tool,
Speaker 1: to Andrew's point, that they won't use, right, there's not.
Speaker 3: A single tool.
Speaker 1: They will, let you know, the rabbit among them be rabbit,
Speaker 1: and you know, and not really restrain them.
Speaker 8: They'll just be silent. We chastise our rabbit, you know,
Speaker 8: we silence our rabbit.
Speaker 1: We ask them to act with a certain amount of decorum,
Speaker 1: as if people's literal.
Speaker 8: Lives are not on the line.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what is jarring about this for.
Speaker 1: Me, because there was already a robust investigation done, there
Speaker 1: was already a special council appointed. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is trying to extract funds from the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice for even investigating him from before, whether it's
Speaker 1: classified documents or interfering with elections. Trying to freaking overthrow
Speaker 1: the government is what it is when you're trying to
Speaker 1: claim credit for winning an election that you freaking lost.
Speaker 8: That is that is exactly what treason is. January sixth.
Speaker 1: Not only do you say, you know, you guys, go
Speaker 1: handle this, but then the moment you get in office,
Speaker 1: you go and pardon these people. You didn't just endorse
Speaker 1: the plan, you also forgave the plan that resulted in
Speaker 1: the death of people who are supposed to be passing legislation.
Speaker 1: To get to your desk, like, you are absolutely the enemy.
Speaker 1: You are the enemy of the state, and I think
Speaker 1: he should be treated as such. And I think, you know, y'all,
Speaker 1: I really do get confused myself when I'm like, we
Speaker 1: told people that this man was fascist fascist, We told
Speaker 1: people that this man is a white supremacist and practices
Speaker 1: and traffics in that ideology, and then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna ride this thing out to the midterms.
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait to see what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: at the midterms.
Speaker 8: I want things to change now.
Speaker 5: And so they're the worse than that, Angela. They're not saying,
Speaker 5: let's ride this out to the midterms.
Speaker 2: They're saying, if we get trusted with power again, let's
Speaker 2: let you know that we're going to remove all the
Speaker 2: lovers of accountability that are available to us once we're
Speaker 2: in power to hold this administration accountable. They're taking off
Speaker 2: the table that there will be any accountability for what
Speaker 2: has preceded their time in leadership.
Speaker 5: So do you think they're.
Speaker 8: Saying they wouldn't impeach him when they're in power either.
Speaker 5: I absolutely believe that's what they're signaling.
Speaker 2: There's no reason for the former Speaker of the House
Speaker 2: to get out there and do a press conference.
Speaker 5: This is about we've already gone down that road. We've
Speaker 5: tried you may.
Speaker 2: I'm just simply saying, I believe this is my point
Speaker 2: around negotiating against themselves, is that they're saying they're trying
Speaker 2: to signal to Middle America and that voter independent in
Speaker 2: the middle, that we're not going to turn our opportunity
Speaker 2: at leadership into another relitigation of all of the bad
Speaker 2: things that the Republicans and Donald Trump have done. They're
Speaker 2: telling people right now that if you trust us again
Speaker 2: with leadership, we're not going to go down that hole again.
Speaker 2: We've learned our lesson. We didn't get him a peach before.
Speaker 2: There is no accountability be held there. But going forward,
Speaker 2: we're going to try to serve all of America, the left,
Speaker 2: the right, and the center by getting us on a
Speaker 2: better governing traft. They haven't said this all out completely,
Speaker 2: but what I'm fearing is that this is what they're dangling,
Speaker 2: that we're not going to go back and tread in
Speaker 2: that water because we know independents won't like it. What
Speaker 2: we're gonna do is we're going to let him do
Speaker 2: what he's going to do, but we're gonna slow him
Speaker 2: down a little bit.
Speaker 5: Antability.
Speaker 1: I know, the grinch who keeps still in the podcast
Speaker 1: time with his AOL dial up.
Speaker 3: M you know, I want to. I want to.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about impeachment and Nancy Pelosi's statement
Speaker 1: that she didn't think that the Democrats have what is
Speaker 1: needed to impeach Donald Trump this go around, Bacari, We've
Speaker 1: had the arguments about all the reasons why there is enough.
Speaker 8: I want you to weigh in there, and then.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about other people who are staying in
Speaker 1: people's houses unwelcomed. But I want to when to come
Speaker 1: to you first, just in case you have anything to
Speaker 1: add here.
Speaker 11: No, I think that we realized that I think impeachment
Speaker 11: is a worthless exercise.
Speaker 3: Is that what we realized?
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 11: I think we realized that it was a worthless, inefficient
Speaker 11: waste of time last go round. I'm not sure what
Speaker 11: anybody can say tangibly we've gained from impeaching him, not once,
Speaker 11: but twice. I think that you compromise your frontline Democrats,
Speaker 11: which are necessary to take back the House, which is
Speaker 11: probably about twenty twenty two, by the way, Janelle bid them.
Speaker 11: Would be great to get on the sholf.
Speaker 14: I love you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's one of the front lines out there where
Speaker 6: you're from in the Pacific Northwest?
Speaker 3: She's from Oregon, get it right, but you going?
Speaker 5: Is that not specific northwest?
Speaker 8: I just just just make sure there's some separation between
Speaker 8: Washington and Oregon.
Speaker 11: But keep going, Uh, do you notice any separation between
Speaker 11: Washington and Oregon?
Speaker 5: And yes, I mean geographically No, no, thank you.
Speaker 6: And is that considered the Pacific It.
Speaker 2: Is also geo politically considered the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 11: Yes, And if I wanted to be South Carolina, I
Speaker 11: would say the specific Northwest.
Speaker 5: You say, yeah, Pacific specific also to be confusing.
Speaker 3: But carry you're.
Speaker 8: Wrong on this, by the way, like listen, it is
Speaker 8: not the first the party line. Okay, I'm line.
Speaker 3: Yes you are.
Speaker 8: You sound just like Nancy Pelosi and Democratic lea Kurt.
Speaker 5: My fury ism.
Speaker 2: And I'd like you to take it outside of whether
Speaker 2: or not impeachment makes sense for this moment, and to
Speaker 2: pull back further and assume that Democrats are going to
Speaker 2: be in the majority in the House of Representatives. Does
Speaker 2: do you interpret Nancy Pelosi's comments to really be more
Speaker 2: of a signal about the midterms that we are not
Speaker 2: going to basically traffic in this form of accountability should
Speaker 2: we win, We're going to turn the.
Speaker 6: No, not at all. I think Nancy is Nancy is
Speaker 6: counting votes for November, and I think that's what he said.
Speaker 11: No, he talked about after the election would it be
Speaker 11: about accountability? And I'm saying no, Nancy Pelosi has a
Speaker 11: lot more depth than that.
Speaker 5: So you think they will become accountable.
Speaker 2: Do you think that they would still enforce some accountability
Speaker 2: on this administration should they win the majority?
Speaker 11: Yes, I do, and I think you'll see that through oversight.
Speaker 11: I think you'll see that through judiciary. I think you'll
Speaker 11: see a lot of that, and you may see impeachment
Speaker 11: become a point. Then I am just saying impeachment resolutions,
Speaker 11: particularly by the young man from Detroit.
Speaker 6: I forget his name, sre.
Speaker 1: No, but we're talking about mister Green, mister Green's most
Speaker 1: They just did a motion to table on mister Green's resolution.
Speaker 11: And because of the timing, because right now, my greatest
Speaker 11: fear is you have about twenty to twenty five members
Speaker 11: right now who are going to be determinative of whether
Speaker 11: or not you have the leadership, yes or no, whether
Speaker 11: or not the King Jeffries is the speaker, yes or no.
Speaker 11: And I'm just saying right now that vote on this
Speaker 11: particular issue one puts those twenty to twenty five members
Speaker 11: at danger in danger, and two, I don't think you
Speaker 11: get anything tangible in return. I don't think the political
Speaker 11: victory is worth the square. Now does that change after
Speaker 11: you win in terms of honing him accountable for his
Speaker 11: last two years? I think that's a better question to ask.
Speaker 11: But the math right now ain't mathing on impeachment.
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you in the moment.
Speaker 2: My My biggest concern is what are they forecasting if
Speaker 2: they were to get into power again?
Speaker 3: And I think what's going to be different?
Speaker 6: And I can't deal with the ifs like.
Speaker 2: For I think that's the only thing we're dealing in
Speaker 2: right now. There's no election prior to the other.
Speaker 11: Things, there are other things that you can forecast prior
Speaker 11: to next November.
Speaker 6: I think that you can forecast oversight, accountability.
Speaker 11: I think that you can, literally, if you're King Jefferies,
Speaker 11: lay out the investigations you're going to have right now
Speaker 11: and who they're going.
Speaker 6: To be against.
Speaker 1: But investigations also pointless because what's going to happen on
Speaker 1: the other side of the investigation.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 11: Well, well, first of all, no, they won't be pointless
Speaker 11: because after your investigation, you would have an you would
Speaker 11: have a presidential election, and your hope would be that
Speaker 11: you could turn over the results of that investigation to
Speaker 11: a Department of Justice that had a different letter beside
Speaker 11: its name, or even didn't have a letter beside his name,
Speaker 11: and it was just purely independent. Or you could just
Speaker 11: have transparency. When you're in leadership, you can release any
Speaker 11: and everything you don't have to hide behind, so investigation
Speaker 11: wouldn't necessarily be pointless. I'm talking about the pragmatism of
Speaker 11: a policy, like I find myself to be a radical pragmatist.
Speaker 6: That's how I define what I am.
Speaker 3: That does sound very sketchy.
Speaker 11: But keep going, and it is I and I is
Speaker 11: and I understand how people can frown upon that. But
Speaker 11: there is a political reality that we cannot talk about
Speaker 11: the accountability after November by and I think what Nancy
Speaker 11: is saying, and I don't need to speak for her.
Speaker 11: Maybe we'll call her and shall come on the show,
Speaker 11: But like we have to, we have to be very
Speaker 11: cognizant that there are about twenty five members who taking
Speaker 11: a vote on impeachment may prove to be something that
Speaker 11: they can't overcome next November.
Speaker 1: I just I just am tired of us making decisions
Speaker 1: for all of the American people. And what's in the
Speaker 1: best interest of preserving a democracy that they so want
Speaker 1: to protect over twenty or twenty five people, I just.
Speaker 11: I would also say I would also argue with you
Speaker 11: that us taking back the House is better for preserving
Speaker 11: democracy than the alternative, because I think Donald Trump, as
Speaker 11: reckless as he is not running for reelection with both
Speaker 11: the House and the Senate, could be even more dangerous
Speaker 11: his final two years than he has been his previous six.
Speaker 2: I think he will be more dangerous because tanymore usually
Speaker 2: become more dangerous as the slip on power increases. There
Speaker 2: they the more powerless they feel, the more reckless he
Speaker 2: will become, and the more dangerous he will become. And
Speaker 2: the only thing I want to make sure because I'm
Speaker 2: really beyond whether or not these are positions that have
Speaker 2: to be taken in order to win a majority again,
Speaker 2: because I think that they could breathe and practically win
Speaker 2: back the majority come next year.
Speaker 6: The Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's all Democratic, that's listen, that's practically that's all
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 5: But we wet the bed all the way to the
Speaker 5: wet dream.
Speaker 14: Right.
Speaker 2: So the problem is is I'm more concerned about whether
Speaker 2: or not there is an appetite, a stomach for holding
Speaker 2: the administration writ large accountable beyond it if they are
Speaker 2: vested with the power of majority. And right now I
Speaker 2: am very squeamish about whether or not that is even
Speaker 2: that that's even in the cards.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm most giving about it. But I realized that.
Speaker 2: There are other grenches out here, and I'm going to
Speaker 2: be the first one to let go down to flag the.
Speaker 5: Clearing the air she's.
Speaker 6: Trying to flag.
Speaker 1: Exactly, she's trying to flag for us that it's time
Speaker 1: to go to the next subject. And speaking of occupants
Speaker 1: and homes that do not belong, there's a story recently
Speaker 1: in d C where a woman was squatting in an
Speaker 1: Airbnb that she rented out last year.
Speaker 3: Let's roll this clip. This is why policy matters, y'all.
Speaker 17: The alleged squad originally got into the home through Airbnb,
Speaker 17: claiming that her apartment caught fire and it needed time
Speaker 17: to get repairs. Now, that was back in February. Roshane
Speaker 17: Douglas says she didn't know she was opening her life
Speaker 17: up to a nightmare when she accepted shadijro Romero's Airbnb
Speaker 17: reservation almost ten months ago. That reservation ended March twenty ninth,
Speaker 17: after thirty two days, and Romero hasn't paid another dime.
Speaker 1: So what I think is fascinating about this is there
Speaker 1: are a lot of times where we hear elected officials
Speaker 1: speaking about the rights of tenants. There was a whole
Speaker 1: candidate in New York's in a New York City mayoral
Speaker 1: race a few years back. His party was the rent
Speaker 1: is too damn High party. But very rarely do we
Speaker 1: hear how these things may impact landlords, because every landlord
Speaker 1: is not running a big apartment building is a big
Speaker 1: real estate developer. Sometimes there are folks who just want
Speaker 1: to you have multiple streams of income. For Shannon is
Speaker 1: one of those folks.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 8: There is an interview Nick that I sent you.
Speaker 1: Look at the second clip with the squatter, but I
Speaker 1: will just say, y'all, this is beyond.
Speaker 3: There was footage of them evicting.
Speaker 1: The judge finally ruled that she could in fact be
Speaker 1: evicted from the property.
Speaker 8: They went to clear the house. The woman started treating
Speaker 8: the property like.
Speaker 3: It was her own. The airbnb.
Speaker 1: So I want to just sit here for a moment
Speaker 1: because I do think it's important. Again, we often talk
Speaker 1: about the rights of the tenant. But I'm gonna tell you,
Speaker 1: adverse possession in squad and is a white man's game.
Speaker 8: That's what they did on this land. They went ahead
Speaker 8: and squatted on it.
Speaker 6: Man, I can fix that, though, How go over there
Speaker 6: and lock a man?
Speaker 7: You can't like even turning off the utilities and everything like.
Speaker 7: That's they were in court, they were going back and forth.
Speaker 3: This is going on.
Speaker 11: To turn the lights back on four I would put
Speaker 11: a two by four in front of her door so
Speaker 11: quick then you would.
Speaker 3: Get it right because that was a fire hazard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she put up a sign on the outside of
Speaker 1: the property that said the person occupying this building right
Speaker 1: now does not have the right to be here. The
Speaker 1: bitch put a sheet over it, Yeah, she put She
Speaker 1: dropped the sheet out of the window.
Speaker 3: The woman literally covered the sign.
Speaker 7: You know, I think this is so uh unfortunate because
Speaker 7: the woman was still paying a mortgage, not making any
Speaker 7: money on the home, and decreasing or depleting her finances.
Speaker 7: So it's awful, you know, like you don't, I can't imagine,
Speaker 7: And she really had its. Eventually, the court ruled in
Speaker 7: her favor and the woman had to go, and so
Speaker 7: they showed her going inside the apartment. The woman had
Speaker 7: so much stuff there she had to pay people to
Speaker 7: have the house cleaned out.
Speaker 3: The one was like a hoarder, and the woman was
Speaker 3: She was like, I have a non profit.
Speaker 7: She didn't seem right in the mind, but she had
Speaker 7: clearly done this before and had done her research and
Speaker 7: knew how to get away with this.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, So questioned them what type of because I don't
Speaker 11: I don't know, I've never stayed in the airbnb, Like,
Speaker 11: what type of so so unfortunate?
Speaker 6: What type of research goes into It's.
Speaker 3: Not research on Airbnb, it's research on tenant.
Speaker 6: I mean like what maybe no, no, no, let me
Speaker 6: ask a better question.
Speaker 11: What type of vetting or background goes into the people
Speaker 11: who can rent the airb's So it's up.
Speaker 3: To then the homeowner.
Speaker 7: So there are some people who just buy investment properties
Speaker 7: and you can automatically check in like it's all done
Speaker 7: once you get the money.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm in thought, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't. Let me just be more clear. Maybe
Speaker 3: I was confusing to the audience.
Speaker 7: I'm saying for the person who owns the home, they
Speaker 7: have the right when you go to look at their property.
Speaker 7: They have the right and they can say some people
Speaker 7: just have they own investment properties. And so you can
Speaker 7: go on there and just click I want to rent
Speaker 7: this place, and it's all done automatically. The money is transferred,
Speaker 7: then you get an automatic message. This is how you
Speaker 7: gain access to the property. There are other situations where
Speaker 7: you say a little bit about yourself and the owner
Speaker 7: of the home has the right to say I yes,
Speaker 7: I choose to rent to you, or no, I don't
Speaker 7: choose to rent to you. So it's really up to
Speaker 7: the owner on how they deal with it. Now, So
Speaker 7: Bakari like, if if you ever wanted to do this,
Speaker 7: that's how it would work, and you can decide which
Speaker 7: one and then they are their super hosts that you
Speaker 7: know and you can have like a book and experience.
Speaker 7: So there have been so many incidents where they're like,
Speaker 7: no parties on our property, or sometimes the owner lives
Speaker 7: across the street and they can see what's happening. There
Speaker 7: is an incident where a woman had her entire bridal
Speaker 7: party come and get their hair and makeup there and
Speaker 7: the woman has them all kicked out because she said,
Speaker 7: I said no parties here. This is not what I
Speaker 7: wanted to happen in my home. There are properties where
Speaker 7: they say this is the home where we live, and
Speaker 7: their family pictures are up and they're like, we're just
Speaker 7: making a few, you know, bucks for the summer, so
Speaker 7: please respect our home as though we live here. It's
Speaker 7: all type of issues that you know, in different situations.
Speaker 11: I think I saw one where a guy's son was
Speaker 11: he was still in there while they rented out, like
Speaker 11: they were having a party in the airbnb, and the
Speaker 11: sun was still there in like a locked room.
Speaker 2: And the mandate, I mean, I think in New York
Speaker 2: it now requires first of all, the industry is practically
Speaker 2: get in the city. But one of the reasons why
Speaker 2: is because it requires you to be at the property. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the owner to be at the property along with those
Speaker 2: who are renting to. So essentially you're cohabitating for that
Speaker 2: period either a weekend or a week or whatever the
Speaker 2: rental is for with the tenant itself. And again, now
Speaker 2: the intention there was the sort of I think, kind
Speaker 2: of kill the industry off.
Speaker 3: Well, what's good reason? I think across all.
Speaker 7: Predominantly seventy two, across all seventy two black New York
Speaker 7: City neighborhoods, not even just burroughs, but neighborhoods. The airbnb
Speaker 7: hosts were five times more likely to be white in
Speaker 7: those neighborhoods. The Airbnb pot Like when you just look
Speaker 7: at who was renting airbnbs in New York City, it
Speaker 7: was like seventy four or seventy five percent white, where
Speaker 7: the residents who were impacted were like less than fourteen
Speaker 7: percent white.
Speaker 3: So it was really displacing a lot of black people.
Speaker 7: White airbnb hosts and black neighborhoods made almost one hundred
Speaker 7: and sixty million dollars in one year. Black people were
Speaker 7: not benefiting from that. This is a lot of people
Speaker 7: complain about airbnbs because they say it leads to displacement
Speaker 7: and gentrification when it comes, and we all know black
Speaker 7: neighborhoods that are impacted by that. So in New York City,
Speaker 7: I think you have to like rent for one year,
Speaker 7: but also be karre to answer your question. You as
Speaker 7: the renter, you can say I only want to rent
Speaker 7: the entire home, or you can say I want to
Speaker 7: rent a room in a home.
Speaker 8: But really quick on this because I just want to
Speaker 8: get us back to tips point.
Speaker 3: Most A lot of them are white.
Speaker 1: This is a black air and b Airbnb own homeowner,
Speaker 1: and I want us to hear from the squatter because
Speaker 1: the reason this black woman saw this other black woman
Speaker 1: who'd been impacted her heme had been damaged by water
Speaker 1: damage after a fire, and she felt compassionate for this woman,
Speaker 1: compassion for this woman and opened up the doorstore home
Speaker 1: for a short term stay.
Speaker 3: Let's please hear what the renter has to say. A
Speaker 3: fired they think she started by the way. Oh lord,
Speaker 3: I didn't to hear that part too.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I sat down with any emotional Shdidjia Romero inside
Speaker 17: Rochelle Douglas's home?
Speaker 18: Did you book the airbnb with the intention of staying No?
Speaker 12: I did not book the Airbnb with the intent of saying, so,
Speaker 12: why are you still here? Because after the repairs were done,
Speaker 12: the place still smelled like fire and there was water damage,
Speaker 12: so the water damage was more substantial than the fire damage.
Speaker 18: You didn't go back to your apartment because it's still
Speaker 18: smelled like smoke and water damage and water damage. What
Speaker 18: makes you choose to stay here instead? When the homeowner
Speaker 18: has clear she doesn't want you here, doesn't want to
Speaker 18: be a landlord.
Speaker 17: There's now no utilities on, there's wood boarded up, there's
Speaker 17: a sign outside saying she doesn't want you here.
Speaker 18: What's making you choose to stay?
Speaker 12: So, no, that didn't start until literally this month. We'll
Speaker 12: start the sign on the building or the utility. That
Speaker 12: wasn't something that happened prior to this point, prior to
Speaker 12: this month. So if that had happened months ago, and
Speaker 12: that was something that I've been dealing with for months,
Speaker 12: I would leave. So now with all of this going on,
Speaker 12: I am going to leave.
Speaker 9: Chow.
Speaker 1: She operating a whole business out of the place. Y'all
Speaker 1: side a sheet covering up the sign. For those of
Speaker 1: you who are just listening, there's a sheet covering up
Speaker 1: the sign. She you have to be like like like
Speaker 1: put in a position of frustration to leave a place
Speaker 1: where your stay has like you've overextended your state.
Speaker 8: And by the way, let's be clear, have not paid.
Speaker 3: Andrew home owners money month after month after month. And
Speaker 3: it is in Washington, d C.
Speaker 7: The nation's capital, which is one of the most expensive
Speaker 7: as Angela and I certainly know is one of the
Speaker 7: most expensive places to live in the country.
Speaker 2: And the landscape around who owns and rents these places.
Speaker 2: I think looks different in different communities. Yeah, I have
Speaker 2: plenty of college classmates who went and bought properties as
Speaker 2: Airbnb was becoming sort of more ubiquitous in places, And
Speaker 2: I do think there has to be protections in places
Speaker 2: where housing affordability and housing access is that critical crisis,
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, that's in far too many communities across
Speaker 2: the country. That has to be dealt with. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you, at the same time have to
Speaker 2: assault an industry in total because the community has decided
Speaker 2: to ignore its housing issues. In fact, I think you
Speaker 2: can do both at one time, and one doesn't have
Speaker 2: to come exclusively at the cost necessarily of another. The
Speaker 2: If you don't don't want to have short term rentals
Speaker 2: available in your community, your community local decision makers out
Speaker 2: to make that decision and make that consideration with all
Speaker 2: of these factors at the table. Right, we don't want
Speaker 2: them because these are the kinds of down down course
Speaker 2: impacts that it has. But once the community has made
Speaker 2: that decision, I just think it's abusive. As you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of these landlord tenant laws exist not for
Speaker 2: short term weekend and vacation rentals, but for people who
Speaker 2: are living deeply seated in these communities, who are trying
Speaker 2: to find affordable places to live for themselves and for
Speaker 2: their families, those landlord tenant laws have come around when
Speaker 2: you've had a landlord here has raised the rent with
Speaker 2: no notice to the tenants at one hundred percent and
Speaker 2: two hundred percent or seventy percent of with the persons
Speaker 2: initially agreed to, and now they're left on the hook
Speaker 2: trying to find a place at the last minute because
Speaker 2: the landlord decided to increase the rents with no notice
Speaker 2: to the people who are there. So I understand, lieutenant laws.
Speaker 2: What I'm confused, not confused by. What's maddening about this
Speaker 2: is that this person took advantage of what were landlord
Speaker 2: tenant laws that likely existed in the district to prevent
Speaker 2: such situations as rents being changed at the last minute
Speaker 2: and people being evicted because the criteria for around renting
Speaker 2: have changed again at the last minute, at the hands
Speaker 2: of the tenant, at the hands of the land owner.
Speaker 2: In this case, you have somebody who basically looked up
Speaker 2: the laws, the rules, understood what they were doing, and
Speaker 2: took complete and total advantage or a short term rental
Speaker 2: agreement in order to to basically maneuver themselves into a
Speaker 2: long term squatter, you know, situation.
Speaker 5: And it's wrong.
Speaker 11: You know, her glasses gave off kind of shady, shady.
Speaker 11: I saw shady and the glasses front.
Speaker 5: I saw shady and all the oils.
Speaker 6: Because this is an ignorance statement. But I know, we
Speaker 6: got to rap in a little bit. But I got it.
Speaker 3: I got a real so like got to end on ignorance.
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, but but now, I mean it's it's
Speaker 11: my ignorance. It's not like a general ignorance. But why
Speaker 11: why do people choose an airbnb over a hotel?
Speaker 5: Costs? For me as my kids, it was the fact
Speaker 5: that we could spread out more on vacations.
Speaker 11: So instead of getting two rooms or something, the costs
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, but cooking
Speaker 11: and also you sacrifice those amenities that you haven't I
Speaker 11: got you.
Speaker 6: I'm following.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, if you think about somebody like Andrew
Speaker 1: just brought up the short term rentals, there are some
Speaker 1: reasons that people do short term rentals. For example, y'all
Speaker 1: know my mom has gone through cancer treatment. If she
Speaker 1: was gonna have to do more treatments in MD Anderson
Speaker 1: in Houston, would we would have preferred to get like
Speaker 1: an Airbnb or some type of short term rental somewhere
Speaker 1: rather than going to a hotel for convenience too, Like,
Speaker 1: at some point hotels get a little like this ain't
Speaker 1: really the space that we need.
Speaker 3: This isn't the vibe.
Speaker 1: It needs to feel more homely till we can feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable with kids.
Speaker 2: We had neighbors and hotels knocking on the door, you know,
Speaker 2: knocking on the walls like yes, your kids crying.
Speaker 6: I never really thought about that.
Speaker 11: I mean, and there's some really nice four seasons of
Speaker 11: rich have any Airbnbs?
Speaker 7: So that's still the pole home probably yeah, but it
Speaker 7: wouldn't be the four seasons. It would be the home
Speaker 7: own of the person who purchased the four season residents,
Speaker 7: who has an Airbnb. And the Angel's point about hospital stays.
Speaker 7: Some Airbnb's advertised we're right by the Cleveland clinic. Yes,
Speaker 7: that's right by Mount Sinai because they know that people
Speaker 7: need to stay there for long term care.
Speaker 2: Or you're vacationing with friends who you see maybe every
Speaker 2: other homecoming and you' all don't want to be in
Speaker 2: a different hotel rooms.
Speaker 7: You want to be in the same was just about
Speaker 7: to say when we when the Machees take our trip
Speaker 7: every year, we don't.
Speaker 3: We try not to do hotels. We're going to help it.
Speaker 7: We want to be in the house because we have
Speaker 7: common space. We want to have our meals together. We
Speaker 7: want our privacy.
Speaker 6: Probably you could probably smoke easier and we can smoke.
Speaker 7: Well, some of us can smoke easier, but we also
Speaker 7: want our privacy, you know, like we we don't want
Speaker 7: to be you know, people taking pictures or you know,
Speaker 7: we want to be a frank.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just have never done an airbn be I
Speaker 6: might have to look into that.
Speaker 1: And some of them are like, they don't hurt airbnb's
Speaker 1: but they are short term rental like luxury vacation rentals
Speaker 1: and all that. But either way, I think that at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, what we're talking about here
Speaker 1: is this is a perfect example of why you cannot
Speaker 1: paint policy with such a broad brush. You have to
Speaker 1: think about the loopholes, the exceptions, the things that exist
Speaker 1: that will also cause palm to the people who are
Speaker 1: trying to quote achieve the American dream and this, I
Speaker 1: think is a perfect example.
Speaker 3: This is two black women. Hate to see it.
Speaker 1: But I was blown by this story because then the
Speaker 1: main thing I wanted to ask y'all, which we didn't
Speaker 1: really get to, is what would you do?
Speaker 13: You know?
Speaker 3: Really? Can I ask no question?
Speaker 6: Not do it no more?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like no, I'm gonna something, but there's no way.
Speaker 1: And pray that your tenant pays the rent, because that
Speaker 1: a whole other thing people can place up like it
Speaker 1: is crazy.
Speaker 18: M H.
Speaker 3: I have a question.
Speaker 7: I don't know what you guys see on your computer screen,
Speaker 7: but we're all obviously in separate places and we can see,
Speaker 7: like who's in the podcast with us? And I would
Speaker 7: like to ask who the f u c K is
Speaker 7: Michael B. Jordan's who has the temerity to be calling
Speaker 7: themselves Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan's.
Speaker 7: I let the audience guessbly you only need one guest,
Speaker 7: though already been told her.
Speaker 3: There goes that.
Speaker 6: First of all, I don't know no nigga name to Mary,
Speaker 6: but I can't tell you that when.
Speaker 11: I went to put my Christmas swa on and I
Speaker 11: got them little De'angelo's made his God rest and may
Speaker 11: rest in peace and little v's that I got it
Speaker 11: working on.
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, let me go ahead and just yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm a little untitled, untitled. You know where he showed
Speaker 6: the v's, that's what I got.
Speaker 2: You know what you have?
Speaker 1: You have grandeur's of delusion and we were going to
Speaker 1: pray that that also gets resolved with your WiFi. In
Speaker 1: case you're wondering why Bakari looks crazy and doesn't understand
Speaker 1: his angles on his head, it's.
Speaker 6: My computer battery, it's not my WiFi.
Speaker 1: But we've told whatever it is, we have literally told
Speaker 1: you about this down computer.
Speaker 8: Like today is the day he decided that he needs
Speaker 8: a new computer.
Speaker 1: So when you'll see any comics on Instagram, please make
Speaker 1: sure that you tell Bakari to get a new computer
Speaker 1: post taste.
Speaker 3: That is my call to action.
Speaker 1: Please, we have in every no matter what Boocari posts
Speaker 1: on this page, say where your no computer at?
Speaker 3: That is my call to action for the day.
Speaker 5: Press battery, just batter battery.
Speaker 6: Riverside needs to become more battery efficient. I'm gonna call it. See,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna talk to some.
Speaker 3: People that's not on Riverside. None of us have these problems.
Speaker 13: You do.
Speaker 3: Who else has a call to action?
Speaker 5: Battery stuffs? Fine, okay for bookar bee, for bees.
Speaker 6: That's people.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know along with my name that you
Speaker 11: know I've been working on my body, chiseling it up,
Speaker 11: leaning it out. I hope that everybody takes some time
Speaker 11: to find a gym.
Speaker 6: This not just January.
Speaker 5: Not just gym visits the gym January.
Speaker 3: Everybody go to the gym by February.
Speaker 11: The gym in January is like church, like church on Easter,
Speaker 11: like everybody about to show up.
Speaker 6: I need y'all there.
Speaker 11: I need y'all at least be consistent for ninety days.
Speaker 11: Try two times a weekend if you even if you
Speaker 11: can't afford the gym membership. By the way, Move Fitness
Speaker 11: is only twelve dollars every two weeks.
Speaker 3: What is go walking?
Speaker 6: Just go walking, go walking?
Speaker 3: What is move Fitness?
Speaker 7: We're not about to be promo and Move Fitness. They
Speaker 7: could buy some they pay them for this, Like.
Speaker 14: What is that?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm throwing there and sweat it out a
Speaker 6: little bit. But anyway, I'm just that's okay.
Speaker 2: I like that January and February about the worst months
Speaker 2: in the world for the gym because all the new
Speaker 2: people like Bakari I got admonishments. They don't follow the rules.
Speaker 2: They be grunting out.
Speaker 5: Loud, you know, just doing way too much.
Speaker 3: You're but Andrew got gun.
Speaker 2: I would just suggest that the regulars pushed through on
Speaker 2: these on these folks who got all these kind of
Speaker 2: you know, new observations about working out for the first
Speaker 2: two months of the year and then they you know,
Speaker 2: they vacation for the remainders.
Speaker 3: Well, this is Christmas, so I'm eating today.
Speaker 1: I'm my workout is gonna be sifting my arm to
Speaker 1: my mouth to eat.
Speaker 3: I'm eating to shut off.
Speaker 5: For the black Santa.
Speaker 3: Kids, all the black babies. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm honestly nervous about a call to action I gave earlier.
Speaker 5: Breaking work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be shameless and say we got your back.
Speaker 5: You said it.
Speaker 7: January first, the book will be available. Please go out
Speaker 7: and buy my book on January first. You'll see the career.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my that's my c t A.
Speaker 11: That's I'm gonna put it down on New Year's Evening
Speaker 11: by Tiffany Yek.
Speaker 13: Thank you.
Speaker 3: What you're gonna put down.
Speaker 1: On that note, uh, don't sign our just yet. We
Speaker 1: really appreciate you all. We wish you and your families
Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful Christmas. For those who celebrate, we're going
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of that ourselves, supporting black business.
Speaker 1: Make sure that you celebrate Kwansa. Tell somebody happy Kwanza.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the days until the next midterms really
Speaker 1: soon in the chat because I have no idea, but
Speaker 1: we are so grateful that you all have journeyed with
Speaker 1: us this entire year. There are three hundred and thirteen
Speaker 1: days until the midterm elections.
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