WEBVTT - The Enshittifinancial Crisis: Part Two

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<v Speaker 1>Zone media, I'm better off line and this is ed Zetron. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, folks. We're here for part two of our

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<v Speaker 1>multi part series about the final casualty of the incertification

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<v Speaker 1>process the financial markets. You see, we're in a world

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<v Speaker 1>where because companies can no longer stimulate growth by just

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<v Speaker 1>script mining their individual and business users, they've now resorted

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<v Speaker 1>to just lying. And lying is an interesting word because

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<v Speaker 1>they will claim we're not lying, we used words to

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<v Speaker 1>vaguely avoid telling you the truth, or we were technically

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<v Speaker 1>true in what we say. There are various kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>lies that don't have to just be I told you

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<v Speaker 1>something that was not categorically yes or no force. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've spoken to other people, but they will say this

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<v Speaker 1>for legal purposes. So fine, it's not technically lying, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just bullshit. But I think it's important to give you

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<v Speaker 1>some examples and to talk about how analyst in the

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<v Speaker 1>media simply allowed these lights to propagate unchecked. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>set the scene. Our story begins on September tenth, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five. I was for some reason in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't remember. Maybe a concert, maybe an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly don't know. Oracle announced its unfillable, unpayable, three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar deal with open AI, which they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity to serve, and open a I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the cash to pay them, and this led to a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent or more bump in stock price. Analysts who

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<v Speaker 1>should extensibly be able to count, called it momentous and

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<v Speaker 1>said they were in shock. On September twenty second, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, CEO Saffracats stepped down. She stepped down from oraclen.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody seemed to think that was weird or suspicious or worrying.

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<v Speaker 1>This was this was meant to be the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the AI like boom too. I mean, we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>really in the AI bool, but this was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be the even more bigger one, right, Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>step down? Why would you step down? Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>step down? And then have two guys like two different

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<v Speaker 1>They have co CEOs. Very sorry to my friend Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>but co CEOs don't usually do well. Look at BlackBerry.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, two months after that, Oracle stock was down

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent, with investors worried about Oracle's growing capex, which

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<v Speaker 1>is surprising. I suppose if you didn't think about how

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<v Speaker 1>Oracle would build the data centers to serve the three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollar deal. A makes me feel insane when

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<v Speaker 1>I say these things out how loud, But just to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, anybody who traded on that got burned. Now

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<v Speaker 1>another thing happened on September twenty second, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>in Vidio announced what they called a strategic partnership to

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<v Speaker 1>invest up to one hundred billion dollars and build ten

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<v Speaker 1>gigawads of data centers with open Ai, with the first

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<v Speaker 1>to gigawatt to be deployed in the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. Just a few questions from me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>where would the data centers go, How would open Ai

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<v Speaker 1>afford to build them? How would open Ai build a

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<v Speaker 1>gigawa in data centers in less than a year? Don't

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<v Speaker 1>ask questions. Pig back in your cage now. In video

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<v Speaker 1>stock bumped from one hundred and seventy five point three

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred and eighty one dollars in the space

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<v Speaker 1>of a day. Said they're very normally moving on and

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<v Speaker 1>the media wrote about the story as if the deal

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<v Speaker 1>was done, with CNBC claiming that and I quote the

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<v Speaker 1>initial ten billion dollar tranch was expected to close within

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<v Speaker 1>a month or so once the transaction had been finalized.

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<v Speaker 1>I read at least ten stories that said in Video

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<v Speaker 1>had invested one hundred billion dollars in open Ai. Analysts

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<v Speaker 1>would go on to say that in Video was locking

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<v Speaker 1>in open Ai and I quote again to remain the

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<v Speaker 1>backbone of the next gen AI infrastructure, and that demand

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<v Speaker 1>for in video GPUs is effectively baked into the development

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<v Speaker 1>of frontier AI models, and that the deal, the partnership

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<v Speaker 1>between the two companies and Validate did in Vidia's long

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<v Speaker 1>term growth numbers with so much volume and compute capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Others would say that in Video was enabling open Ai

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<v Speaker 1>to meet surging demand. Three analysts, rask Gone at Bernstein Laurier,

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<v Speaker 1>DA Davidson, and Wagner at Aaptors Capital all raised circular

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<v Speaker 1>deal concerns, but they were in the minority, and those

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<v Speaker 1>concerns were still often buried under buoyant optimism around the

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<v Speaker 1>prospects of the company, and nobody just fucking saying the words, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>no one could afford any of the Oracle can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>to build it, they don't have the capacity, they ust

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<v Speaker 1>can't get paid by open Ai. Open Ai doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money. But in Vidia, this deal also doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It feels like open ai is just promising

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's stuff they can't afford. All of these things seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like very obvious questions, but people just kind of clapped

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<v Speaker 1>their hands and went, fuck, yeah, we're doing Ai even

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<v Speaker 1>more now. But then there was this other thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the Nvidia deal. It's this quincy teeny weeny quincy little

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<v Speaker 1>problem one little pro everyone about the Invidia deal. The

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<v Speaker 1>deal that everyone said was done. It was a letter

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<v Speaker 1>of intent. It said so in the announcement and on

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<v Speaker 1>Invidia's November runnings it said that it had entered into

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<v Speaker 1>a letter of intent with an opportunity to invest in

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<v Speaker 1>open Ai. It turns out the deal didn't exist, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody fell for him. Invidia hasn't sent a diamond, likely won't.

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<v Speaker 1>A letter of intent is also known as the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of a plan. A little over two weeks later, on

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<v Speaker 1>October first, twenty twenty five, Reuters reported that Samsung and

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<v Speaker 1>sk Heinex had signed letters of intent to supply memory

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<v Speaker 1>chips for open AI's data centers, with South Korea's Presidential

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<v Speaker 1>Office saying that said chip demand was expected to reach

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred thousand wafers a month, with and I quote

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<v Speaker 1>much of that from Samsung and esk Heinex, which was

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<v Speaker 1>quickly extrapolated to meet around forty percent of global dram

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<v Speaker 1>outpum stocks in both companies to quote Reuter's Sword, with

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung climbing four percent and sk Heinex more than twelve

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<v Speaker 1>percent to an all time high. Analyst Jeff Kim KB

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<v Speaker 1>Securities said that and I quote, there have been worries

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<v Speaker 1>about high bandwidth memory prices falling next year on intensifying competition,

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<v Speaker 1>but such worries will now be easily resolved by the

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<v Speaker 1>strategic partnership, adding that since Stargate is a key project

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<v Speaker 1>led by President Trump, wrong lie, there also is a

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<v Speaker 1>possibility that partnership will have a positive impact on South

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<v Speaker 1>Korea's trade negotiations with the US, which is just to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, total and utter bollocks. It's wank, it's scrap,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nonsense, boop them above all the technical terms. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not leading Stargate. Stargate is a name used

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to data centers built by open Ai, by

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean other people building them for open Ai.

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<v Speaker 1>KB Securities is around forty three billion dollars of assets

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<v Speaker 1>under management. This is the level of analysis you get

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<v Speaker 1>from these analysts. This is how much they know. There

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<v Speaker 1>are people that study JoJo's bizarre adventure that have more

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<v Speaker 1>economic analysis than any of these fucking people. Most Star

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<v Speaker 1>Wars fans who have just memorized all the names of

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<v Speaker 1>the glop shittos of the world have better analysis than this.

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<v Speaker 1>But nevertheless, you'd think, right that these companies have made

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<v Speaker 1>all this noise, and they've talked about this stuff, the

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<v Speaker 1>Presidential Office all involved, you think we'd be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get a whiff of that on their earning scores, right well.

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<v Speaker 1>On I sk Hihenex's October twenty ninth, twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>earning score. Weeks after the announcement, it's CEO Kim Wu

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<v Speaker 1>Yun was asked a question about high bandwidth memory growth

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<v Speaker 1>by Eskkim from Daiwa Securities and I quote, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is SKKM asking the question. Thank you very

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<v Speaker 1>much for taking my question. It is on demand now.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a series of announcements of GPU and

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<v Speaker 1>a six supply cooperation between big techs and AI companies,

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<v Speaker 1>fueling expectations of further AI market growth. Then, against this

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<v Speaker 1>back drop, what is the company's outlook on high bend

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<v Speaker 1>with memory demand as well as a broadening of the

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<v Speaker 1>customer base, es sk Heinex. Thank you for the question. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with upward adjustment in big text CAPEX and increasing investment

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<v Speaker 1>by AI companies, the high bandwidth memory market, even by

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative vestmer, will keep growing at an average of

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty percent for the next five years. I will

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<v Speaker 1>point to our recent letter of intent with open Ai

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<v Speaker 1>for large scale DRAM supply as an example of the

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<v Speaker 1>very strong demand for AI as well as the need

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<v Speaker 1>to secure AI memory based on HBM more than anything

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<v Speaker 1>else went developing AI technology. That is it. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the only mention of open AI. That's it. No other

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<v Speaker 1>mentions otherwise, sk Heinex has not added any guidance that

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest that it's DRAM sales will spike beyond overall

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<v Speaker 1>growth where it's already grown because everyone's running out of

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<v Speaker 1>ramthanks to fucking AI. Other than mentioning that it had

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<v Speaker 1>an I quote completed year twenty twenty six supply discussions

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<v Speaker 1>with key customers, there is no mention of open AI

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<v Speaker 1>in any earning's presentation. Now You may think there were

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<v Speaker 1>two companies. You said two company names. There were Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Right well. On Samsung's October thirtieth, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five earning school Samsung mentioned the term d RAM eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>times and neither mentioned open AI nor any letters of

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<v Speaker 1>intent of any kind. In its Q three twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five earnings presentation, Samsung mentions it will a quote prioritize

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<v Speaker 1>the expansion of high bandwidth memory four business with differentiate

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<v Speaker 1>performance to address increasing AI demand. Great place to mention

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<v Speaker 1>open AI. Right, yeah, that would be if the money

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<v Speaker 1>existed and they were gonna do anything Now, analysts do

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<v Speaker 1>not appear to have noticed the lack of revenue from

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<v Speaker 1>an apparent deal for forty percent of the world's RAM.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, Pobody's perfect right. My frustration, you hear in

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<v Speaker 1>my voice is that I'm a guy with a Google doc.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a financial analyst, but I appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do what they're doing because I'm able to

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<v Speaker 1>fucking read a Both Samsung and s k Heinez's stocks

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<v Speaker 1>have continued to write since, and you'd be forgiven for

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<v Speaker 1>thinking this deal was something to do with it, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it was not. But silly season was not yet over, however,

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<v Speaker 1>and on October fifth, twenty twenty five, AMD announced that

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<v Speaker 1>it had entered a multi year, multi generation agreement with

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<v Speaker 1>open Ai to build six goddamn gigawads of data centers,

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<v Speaker 1>with the first one gig what deployment said to begin

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half of twenty twenty six, calling the

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<v Speaker 1>agreement definitive with terms that allowed open ai to buy

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<v Speaker 1>up to ten percent of AMD stock, festing over specific

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<v Speaker 1>milestones that started with the first giga what of data

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<v Speaker 1>center development, said data centers would use AMDs yet to

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<v Speaker 1>be released four to fifty GPUs. The deal would per

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<v Speaker 1>reuters bring in tens of billions of dollars of revenue. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, hate to be an asshole, right, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always on this shit, right Yeah? Where would those

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<v Speaker 1>data centers go? How much? How much would they cost?

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<v Speaker 1>How would open Ai pay for them? Would the jips

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<v Speaker 1>be ready in time? Silence? Well, how dare you ask questions?

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you? Why are you asking questions? Number? Go up?

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<v Speaker 1>Number go up? Look look at number? Go up. AMD

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<v Speaker 1>shares searched by thirty four percent, with the analyst Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Ives of Webbush, who appears to dress like the San

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<v Speaker 1>Diego Padres Didy connect Jerseys, saying that this was a

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<v Speaker 1>major evaluation moment for AMD. As in the side, I've

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<v Speaker 1>said that in video would benefit from the meta verse

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one, and told CBS News in November

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<v Speaker 1>on November twenty second, twenty twenty one, that and I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the metaverse was real and that Wall Street was looking

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<v Speaker 1>for winners, were they dan? Now one more thing, that

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<v Speaker 1>AMD's November earnings a month after that announcement might be

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<v Speaker 1>a barn burner full of remaining performance obligations from Open AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that Open appaying them moost tens of billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of revenues right. In fact, CEO Lisa Sun who

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<v Speaker 1>said that AMD expected this partnership will significantly accelerated Stata

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<v Speaker 1>Center AI business and with the potential to generate well

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred billion dollars in revenue over the next

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<v Speaker 1>few years in the announcement, and here's how AMD's ten

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<v Speaker 1>Q filing referred to it, and I quote. As of

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<v Speaker 1>September twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, the Aggagut transaction price

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<v Speaker 1>allocated to remaining performance applications on the contracts with an

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<v Speaker 1>original expected duration of more than one year. It was

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy nine million dollars, of which one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty nine million dollars is expected to be

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<v Speaker 1>recognized in the next twelve months. The revenue allocated to

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<v Speaker 1>remaining performance applications does not include amounts whichever original expected

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<v Speaker 1>duration of one year or less. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about you. I did not I didn't do economics in school,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anythin like that, didn't do well at maths

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<v Speaker 1>in school. But two hundred and seventy nine million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>seems lower than over one hundred billion dollars. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess just just no revenue from open AI, no revenue

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<v Speaker 1>of any kind. I guess. Now, AMD did raise guidance

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty five percent of the next five years, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're trailing. Twelve month revenue is thirty two billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Tens of billions of dollars would surely lead to more

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<v Speaker 1>than a thirty five percent boost, because that would be

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<v Speaker 1>like eleven billion. That's just eleven billion dollars. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot less. That's a lot less than one hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know guess all that was for nothing. No

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<v Speaker 1>follow up from the media, no questions from analysts, just

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<v Speaker 1>the shrug and we all move on. They were at ces.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Brockman came on AMD's Lisa Sue said something about

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<v Speaker 1>Yachta flops, which really just pissed me off to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Still nothing anyway. AMD stock is now down from a

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<v Speaker 1>high of two hundred and fifty nine bucks at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of October to around let's see md stocks understand

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<v Speaker 1>about two hundred and thirty one bucks right now. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who traded in based on an analyst and media comments

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<v Speaker 1>got fucked. Now let's go to my favor them, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little company named Broadcom. So back on September fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcom send and it's earning school that it had a

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollar order from a mysterious customer, which analysts

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<v Speaker 1>quickly assumed was open Ai, leading to Broadcom stock probably

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent and gradually increasing to a high of a

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and sixty nine dollars on September tenth, before

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<v Speaker 1>declining a little until October thirteenth, when Broadcom announced a

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous ten gigawa deal with open Ai, claiming that it

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<v Speaker 1>would deploy ten gigawats of open Ai designed chips, with

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<v Speaker 1>the first ranks to deploy the second half of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and the entire deployment completed by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty ninth. So three fucking years for ten

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<v Speaker 1>fucking gigawatts. Just to give you an idea, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years a gigawat right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's for open Ai slush fun projects, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have all the money and none of the oversight. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The same day, President of Semiconductor Solutions Charlie Cowas added

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<v Speaker 1>that said mystery customers actually not open Ai, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to take a ten billion dollar purchase

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<v Speaker 1>order from my good friend Greg Brockman, CEO of open Ai,

0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Cowas said he has not given me that purchase order yet. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcom stock popped nine percent on the news about the

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<v Speaker 1>ten gigawa deal with CMBC, adding that the companies have

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<v Speaker 1>been working together for eighteen months because it's open Ai.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody sat and thought about whether somebody at Broadcom was saying, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>well open has yet to ward these chips, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether that was a problem. In fact, the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>how does open Ai thought this appeared to be they'd

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<v Speaker 1>afford it when it came to analysts. Now I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to read you a quote that is so

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<v Speaker 1>funny when you realize that this is someone who makes

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<v Speaker 1>like a shit ton of money. Ahem. The twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six timelines set out by open Ai for the buildout

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<v Speaker 1>is aggressive, but the startup is also best position to

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<v Speaker 1>raise funds required for the project given the heights of

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<v Speaker 1>investor confidence, said gad Joe Sevilla, an analyst eMarketer. Financing

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<v Speaker 1>such a large chip deal will likely require a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of funding grounds pre orders, strategic investments and support from Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as leveraging future revenue streams and potential credit facilities. Hogwash,

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<v Speaker 1>just complete, complete bollocks. Insane that people pay these analysts bullshit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So just let's just break this down financing such a

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<v Speaker 1>large chip deal. So ten gigawats, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at fifty bill dollars a gig was you look

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<v Speaker 1>at that half a trillion dollars. So to do this

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<v Speaker 1>for this aggressive buildout, which was ten giga Watson three years,

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<v Speaker 1>just not possible. They would fund this by pre orders,

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<v Speaker 1>pre orders for what exactly, because pre orders would be

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<v Speaker 1>then pre ordering something from Broadcom. Not really sure how

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<v Speaker 1>that fixed the problem. Strategic investments from whom just funding

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, support from Microsoft funding again, I guess, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why Microsoft be paying for that, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as leveraging future revenue streams and potential credit for

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<v Speaker 1>say what what does that mean? Saving money doing like

0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a revenue trade deal? Like what are you talking about? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to worry because open ai solution to

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<v Speaker 1>this was far simpler. It didn't order anything. During Broadcom's

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<v Speaker 1>November earning school, where Broadcom revealed that the ten billion

0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 1>dollar order was actually from Anthropic, another l of them

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<v Speaker 1>started that burnst billions of dollars, which was actually buying

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<v Speaker 1>Google's TPUs from Broadcom, and he also added the Anthropic

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<v Speaker 1>had made a second eleven billion dollar deal. Alice somehow

0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>believed that Anthropic is positioned to spend heavily despite being

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<v Speaker 1>yet another venture backed welfare recipient in the same flavor

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<v Speaker 1>as open Ai. Oh right, right, sorry, okay, Broadcom. You

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<v Speaker 1>may be wondering about the ten gig what deal though,

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<v Speaker 1>because those earnings right well, Broadcom CEO hoc Tan said

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<v Speaker 1>that he did not expect much in twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>from the deal, and guidance did not change to reflect it. Now,

0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>what was great about this as well? And I linked

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<v Speaker 1>to this in the newsletter. I really need you to

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<v Speaker 1>go and look up how hoc Tan had the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because someone asked him for more detail and he just

0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.840
<v Speaker 1>straight up said, like, I don't want to talk about it.

0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.080
<v Speaker 1>It rocks. I honestly fucking love that. Anyway, Broadcom climbed

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<v Speaker 1>to a higher four hundred and twelve dollars a share

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to its earnings, and I imagine it did

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<v Speaker 1>so based on people trading on the belief that open

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<v Speaker 1>Air and Broadcom were doing a deal of some sort together,

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<v Speaker 1>which does not appear to be happening. While there is

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<v Speaker 1>an alleged seventy three billion dollar backlog for Broadcom, every

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<v Speaker 1>dollar from Anthropic is utterly questionable. Now, some of you

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>might say, ed, we can't just automatically distrust public companies. Actually,

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.280
<v Speaker 1>yes we can. I'm doing it right now. Whenever a

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.480
<v Speaker 1>company says a litter of intent, as in Video and

0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>sk Heinez and Samsung did, it's important to immediately stop

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<v Speaker 1>taking the deal. Seriously until you get to a specific

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<v Speaker 1>word contract, not agreement or deal or announcement, but contract,

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<v Speaker 1>because contracts are the only thing that actually matters. A

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<v Speaker 1>great example of this is in in Video's last earnings,

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<v Speaker 1>they said they would be investing up to ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in Anthropic. Right, you'll notice that that was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of November. It's now January and we haven't

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>heard boo about it. It's probably because nothing's fucking happening.

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 1>And also that phrase up to as well means that

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<v Speaker 1>it will be However much in Video wants to invest,

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<v Speaker 1>if at all. They only just did their Intel investment. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they say these terms, you need to just get suspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time. It's time to stop trusting them, because they've

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<v Speaker 1>played enough hide the sausage for one EPOC. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for everybody, analysts, the media, members of Congress,

0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the fucking pope. I don't care, to start treating these

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<v Speaker 1>companies with actual suspicion and to start demanding timelines like

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<v Speaker 1>I said. In Video and Microsoft announced that fifteen billion

0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:26.479
<v Speaker 1>dollar investment, and in Anthropic, where's the money? Why does

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<v Speaker 1>the agreement say up to ten billion for in Video

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<v Speaker 1>and up to five billion for Microsoft. Where's the money?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is it? We haven't heard shit about it since.

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<v Speaker 1>What we have heard is that Anthropic is raising either

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<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars or twenty five billion dollars at a

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty billion dollar valuation. Where'd the money go?

0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Where the money go from? Those fuck nuts? But they go, Sorry,

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Jensen won for calling you a fuck n All right,

0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you're acting like one though, mate. Anyway, these deals are

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<v Speaker 1>announced with the intention of suggesting there is more revenue

0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and money and generative AI that actually exists. Furthermore, it

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<v Speaker 1>is irresponsible and actively harmful for analysts in the media

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to continually act as if these deals will actually get

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<v Speaker 1>paid when you consider the financial conditions of these companies.

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<v Speaker 1>As part of its alleged funding announcement within Video and

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft and Thropic also agreed to purchase thirty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>as your Compute, which is, for those of you who

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know, the compute cloud platform, the competitors to Amazon

0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Web Services and Google Cloud that Microsoft runs. It also

0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 1>agreed to Anthropic agreed to spend tens of billions of

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Speaker 1>dollars with Google Cloud. They ordered ten billion dollars of

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.240
<v Speaker 1>chips from broad Coom earlier in twenty twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently another eleven billion dollars of them in the last

0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:47.159
<v Speaker 1>fiscal quarter. How does Anthropic pay for them? How Anthropic

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>allegedly burned two point eight billion dollars last year twenty

0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, though I think they burn much more and

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>raise sixteen point five billion dollars in funding before Microsoft

0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and then Videa's imaginary money. How are investors tolerating Broadcom

0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.479
<v Speaker 1>not directly stating the future financial condition of this company

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.640
<v Speaker 1>is questionable? Has Broadcom created a reserve for this deal?

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<v Speaker 1>If not, why not? Anthropic will make no more than

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars in twenty twenty five, I'm sure of it,

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and raised about seventeen point five billion dollars with another

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<v Speaker 1>two point five billion dollars coming in debt. How can

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it foreseeably afford to pay ten billion, eleven billion or

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one billion dollars considering it's already massive losses and

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<v Speaker 1>all those other obligations I mentioned. Will Jensen one hand

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<v Speaker 1>over ten billion dollars so that Anthropic can hand it

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 1>straight to Broadcom? I don't think so. I realize the

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<v Speaker 1>counter argument is that the companies aren't responsible for the

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>counterparty's financial health. But my argument is that it's the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of any public company to give a realistic view

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of its financial health and revenue sources, which includes not

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<v Speaker 1>to give a chunk of its revenues from a startup

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that can't afford to pay for its orders. There's no

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>counter for that. Anthropic cannot afford to pay broad Com

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.600
<v Speaker 1>ten billion dollars right now or eleven billion dollars in

0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>a few months. Where is the money coming from. They're

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.360
<v Speaker 1>allegedly raising twenty five billion dollars. Great that ac shud

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 1>lead them with four billion dollars to pay for what

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty forty fifty billion dollars of compute costs. I

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Again, I ain't no mathematician, but I can

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>put those numbers together and I can say that's a

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty big minus. Again, I'm not even trying to be

0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>sarcastic here. The things I'm saying are actually very rational.

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 1>They're very reasonable. Anthropic even if they raised twenty five

0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars, cannot pay even like a quarter of the

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:34.040
<v Speaker 1>things they've agreed to their existent revenue sources. Even if

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>they made twenty billion dollars in twenty twenty six, which

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:39.719
<v Speaker 1>they will not. By the way, they are absolutely I

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just don't believe them about their revenues at all or

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>any of the estimates. But the problem is that in

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>any bubble, being really stupid and ignorant works right up

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>until it doesn't. And however harsh the dot com bubble

0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.680
<v Speaker 1>might have been, it wasn't harsh enough, and those who

0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 1>were responsible were left unpunished and unashamed, and that guaranteed

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that the cycle would happen again, and then it would

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>be worse. I want to be really abundantly clear about

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Every single stock you see growing because of AI,

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>outside of those selling RAM and GPUs, is actually growing

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>because of something else. Microsoft, Amazon, Google, and Meta all

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>have other products that are making the money and are

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>still growing. AI is not growing them. And because analysts

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and investors in the media do not think about things

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>for two seconds, they have allowed themselves to be beaten

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:39.159
<v Speaker 1>down and turned into supplicants for future public stock growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Investors have allowed themselves to be played, and the results

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 1>will be worse than the dot com bubble bursting by

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>several echelons and perhaps the biggest victims will be venture capital,

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<v Speaker 1>which is existentially threatened by the AI bubble, But the

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.679
<v Speaker 1>actual victims will be regular people who made the mistake

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>of trusting analysts or anyone who told them to invest

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in the markets. But I'm going to be really simplistic

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. I am skeptical of AI because everybody

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>loses money. I believe every AI company is unprofitable with

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>margins that are getting increasingly worse as they scale, and

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>as a result, none of them will be able to

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>get acquired or go public. This means that venture capitalists

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that have sunk money into AI stocks and private AI stocks,

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I should be clear, are going to be sitting on

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of assets under management AEM the same assets

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>they collect fees on because that's how venture capitalists make

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>money that will eventually creter or go to zero because

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>there will be no way for any liquidity events so

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>taken in public or selling someone to occur. This is

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>at a time of historically low liquidity for venture capitalists,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>with Pitchbook estimating that there would be only one hundred

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>point eight billion dollars in venture capital funds available at

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of last year. Venture capitalists raise money from

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>limited partners who invest in venture capital with the hope

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of returns that outpace investing in the public markets. Venture

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>capital vastly overinvested in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>two as well, and this was also a problem with

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>private equity. In simple terms, this means that these funds

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>are sitting on tons of stock that they cannot shift,

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>and the longer it takes for a company to w

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<v Speaker 1>either go public or required, the more likely it is

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the VC or the P firm will have to mark

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<v Speaker 1>down its value to something more realistic. This is so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that, according to Carter, as of August twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and that CARTA some of you can't understand how I talk.

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<v Speaker 1>As of August twenty twenty four, less than ten percent

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of VC funds raised in twenty twenty one have made

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>any distributions to their investors, that's handing any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cash out. In a piece from September twenty twenty five,

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Carter also revealed that about fifteen percent of funds from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three have generated any disbursements as of Q two,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, and the media net internal rate of

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>return was a median zero point one percent, meaning that

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>at best most investors got their money back and absolutely

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing else. And just to be clear, you don't invest

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>so you can get an exact amount. You don't give

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>someone a dollar, wait four years and then get a

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>dollar back. That's not investing, that's just putting money in

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>a box. And in fact, investing in venture capital has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fucking sugged for a while. According to Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>as of the end of Q two, most VC funds

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>across all recent vintages that's after twenty eighteen had a

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>TVPI somewhere between zero point eight x and two x

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>TVPI I'll get to in a second, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>some areas where standout tvpis are surfacing. TVPI means total

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>value to paid in capital, or the amount of money

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you made for each dollar invested. So if you invested

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a dollar point eight x would mean you got eighty

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>cents back, and if you invested a dollar you get

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>two bucks on two X. I hope that makes sense. Now,

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a chart in the newsletter version of this episode,

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>which I encourage you to check out, but it tells

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<v Speaker 1>you that for the most part, vcs have struggled to

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>provide even money returns. Since twenty seventeen, decent TVPI is

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>two point five x, and as you'll see from the chart,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>things basically collapsed since twenty twenty one. Companies are not

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going public or being acquired at the same rate, meaning

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that investor capital is increasingly locked up, meaning that limited

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>partners are still wing for a payoff from the last bubbles.

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Let learn this one now. Carter would update the chart

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in December twenty twenty five, and things would somehow get worse.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>TVPI soured further, suggesting a further lack of exits across

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the board. The only slight improvement was the median IRR,

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>which rose from zero point five percent from funds from

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one and zero point one percent for funds

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty two. Those are still real, fucking terrible.

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Those are absolutely astonishing. I mean, a good IRR is

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>ideally like fifteen to twenty percent, not zero point five percent.

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but in simpler terms, we are looking

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>at years of locked up capital, even venture capital cash starved,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and a little ESPRA. The worst part is that all

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of this is happening during a generational increase in the

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>amounts that startups need to raise thanks to the ruinous

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>costs of generative AI and the negative margins of AI

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>powered services. Now, I'm going to quote myself from a

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>December fifth newsletter called the Ways the AI Bubble Might Burst. Cursor,

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Anthropic's largest customer and now it's biggest competitor in the

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>AAI coding sphere, raised two point three billion dollars in

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>November after raising nine hundred million dollars in June. Now

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty five, and I should add these are

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>on revenues of eighty three million dollars in the month

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of I think November October, because they said annualized revenues

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>of one billion dollars. Is dogship perplexity one of the

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>most And I say this presitantly popular AI companies raised

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>two hundred million dollars in September after using one hundred

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in July, after seeming to fail to raise

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>five hundred million dollars in May. After raising five hundred

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in December twenty twenty four for a fucking

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>search engine, Cognition raised four hundred million dollars in September

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>after raising three hundred million dollars In March, Coher raised

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollars in said temper, a month after

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it raised five hundred million dollars. That's a lot of money,

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's a lot of money in a very small

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>amount of time, and that's taking money away from everyone

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>else because they need that money. You need the money

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to invest in the stops. But none of these companies

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>are profitable, nor do they have a path to end

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>acquisition or IBO. And why do you say, why why

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>do you ask? Ede? You're being so horrible? What's because

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>even the most advanced AI software companies ultimately prompting open

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>AI or Anthropics models, meaning that their only real intellectual

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>property is those prompts and their staff and whatever they

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>can build around the models they don't control, which has

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>been obvious from the meager acquisitions we've seen so far.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Another fun fact, Anthropic ended up cutting off people that

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>worked to Xai that were using Cursor from using their models. So,

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>just to be clear, Cursor completely different company Anthropic. If

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you work at a company at Anthropic doesn't like and

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I know we don't, we don't like elon mask, I

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>get that. But if Anthropic can arbitrarily cut off their

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>models from somebody's completely independent product. Just because they're deciding

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to cut off a competitor, they're just going to broaden

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the term competitor to mean anyone they don't like, anyone

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>that gets in the way. Now, Windsurf, which was allegedly

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>being sold to open Ai last year, ended up selling

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>its assets to Cognition in July twenty twenty five, with

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Google paying two point four billion dollars just to hire

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>its co founders. And this nebulous licensing agreement similar to

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing it did with Character to AI, where it

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>paid two point seven billion dollars to reheigh Nome Shazir,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.479
<v Speaker 1>who he was one of the authors of the Attention

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is All You Need paper that started this spars licenses

0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 1>tech can pay off the stock of its remaining staff.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>This is also exactly what Microsoft did with Inflection AI

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's co founder, mister Suliman, who, and I quote

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>someone who messaged me really recently, is a huge fucking asshole. Now,

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>mister Sulliman, if you hear this, I'm just quoting someone

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>that works for you. If they're saying that about you,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>perhaps it's worth asking why are people calling me a

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>big fucking asshole. I don't know. Must Far come on

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the show and ask me yourself. Now open Aiyes, acquisitions

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>of Statsic one point one billion dollars, Ioproducts six point

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars, in Neptune four hundred million dollars. We're

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>all in stock. Every other major acquisition of this era, Wiz, Confluence, Confluent,

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>even Informatica and so on, is either someone trying to

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>pretend that something is related to AI, like Wiz, or

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to say that a data streaming platform is heavily

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>AI related because AI needs data, which which may be true,

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't mean that AI companies are selling and

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>they're not, by the way, which is a problem. As

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 1>forty one percent of US venture dollars in twenty twenty

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>five went to AI as of August, and according to Axios,

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the global number was around fifty one percent. A crisis

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>is brewing. NERD Lawyer back in October wrote about the

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>explosive growth of secondary markets, and I quote enter the

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>secondary market a once niche corner of venture capital that

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>has transferred into a primary liquidity mechanism. What's remarkable is

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>how quickly this market is matured at least five major

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>venture funds have hired full time staff dedicated to manufacturing

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>non traditional exits. As Hans Swilden's CEO of Industry Ventures explained,

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>all the brand named funds are all staffing and thinking

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>through liquidity structures and professional buyers have flooded in. Megafunds

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>specializing in secondaries have raised unprecedented amounts. Lexington raised a

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>record twenty three billion dollars, or harbor Vest, Ardient and

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Collar Capital have raised funds in the ten to twenty

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar range. In simpler terms, there are now hot

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>potato funds where either another limited partner buys and other's allocation,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the companies themselves by back their stock, or the stock

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:03.719
<v Speaker 1>is resold to other private investors who are building venture

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>capital firms out of shit. The venture capitalists can't sell.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>You're seeing where the problem might be. Eventually, someone's going

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to be. It's not Bomberman. It's not good now from

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the same NERD lawyer piece and I quote again, and

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not alone. The secondary market is projected to handle

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty two billion dollars in assets in

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Yet that still represents just one point

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>nine percent of the total Unicorn value. As in the

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 1>side of Unicorn is a company worth a billion dollars,

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>there's six plus trillion dollars in untapped liquidity potential as

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>aside here. That's a really nice way of looking at this.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>The transformation of the secondary market from emergency tool to

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>standard operating procedure represents the most significant structural shift in

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>venture capital since the rise of unicorns. It's not a

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>temporary fix. It's a permanent evolution driven by misaligned timeframes

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>between fund life cycles ten years and company maturation eleven

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>plus years. I read that it's not just a temporary

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>fix thing. I'm like, is this ai anyway back to

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>quoting for better or worse? This is the new reality

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of startup funding. Vizs can no longer afford to simply

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>spray and pray and wait for exits. They need active

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>liquidity management strategies, and that fundamentally changes what kind of

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>companies are getting funded and how. I'm just going to

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be honest. That last parts bullshit. I wrote this in

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>the newsletter. That last part is whang. This is not

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>changing anything about what companies get funded or how they're

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>still funding these unprofitable monstrosities. Nothing has changed, and I

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>would argue this piece frames that as a positive when

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the reality is far grimmer. Venture capitalists are sitting on

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>piles of immovable equity and companies worth far less than

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they invested in. And the answer, it appears, is to

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>find somebody else who is able to buy the dead weight.

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I assume because they are stupid, Like I mean, I

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>realize someone is going to say, well, actually, it means

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe they see maybe they can afford to hold it

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 1>for longer. No. Now, if you're buying anything since twenty

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, you're probably get swindled. And according to Newcomer Only,

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>oney one hundred and seventeen venture funds closed in twenty

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty five, down from twenty one hundred and twenty twenty four,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and forty three percent of dollars raised went to the

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>largest venture funds, per The New York Times and Pitchbook,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>suggesting limited partners are becoming less interested in pumping cash

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>into the system at a time when AI startups are

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>demanding more capital than has ever been raised. How long

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>can the venture capital industry keep handing out one hundred

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>million to five hundred million dollars to multiple startups a year,

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>because all the signs suggest that the current pace of

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>funding must continue in perpetuity as nobody appears to have

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>worked out the generative AI is inherently unprofitable, and thus

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>every single company is on the Silicon Valley welfare system

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>until somebody or everybody gives up or the system itself

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>cannot sustain the pressure. I've read too many people make

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>offhanded comments about this being like the dot com boom,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and saying that lots of startups might die, but what's

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>left over will be good. And I hate them. I

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>hate so much. I hate them both for their flippancy

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and for their ignorance. None of the current stack of

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>AI companies can survive on their own, meaning that the

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>venture capital industry is holding them up. If even one

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of these companies faulters and dies, the entire narrative dies

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>with it. If that happens, it will be harder for

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>other AI companies to raise and even harder to sell

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>an AI company to somebody else. And if you can,

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you'll be selling it for less. This is a punishment

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>for a decade plus of hubris, where companies were invested

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>in without ever considering a path to profitability. Venture capital

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>has made the same mistake again and again and again,

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>believing that because Uber or Facebook or Airbnb or any

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 1>number of other companies found in nearly twenty years ago

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>were unprofitable, at some point with past the profitability, I

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>might add, it was totally okay to keep pumping, pumpaning, pumping,

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it, pumping up companies that have had

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>no path to profitability, which eventually became had no apparent

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>business models see the metaversal Web three, which eventually have

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>negative margins so severe, evaluation so high that we will

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>need an IPO at the a market cap higher than

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Netflix at minimum. This is Silicon Valley's rot economy, the

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>desperate growth at all costs attachment the startups where you

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and I quote really liked the founder, where and I

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>quote again the market could be huge who knows if

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and where you just don't need to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about profitability because IPOs and exits were easy. Yeah, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>venture capital used to be real easy because we were

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<v Speaker 1>still in an era of hypergrowth. You could be a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid asshole who doesn't know anything, but there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many good deals, and the more well known you were

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<v Speaker 1>the more likely be brought them first, guaranteeing a bigger payout,

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteeing more LP capital, guaranteeing more opportunities that were of

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<v Speaker 1>a higher quality. Because you were a big name. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't about being smart and knowing the fundamentals. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about being handed things. It was easier to make a

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<v Speaker 1>valuable company too, easier to get funded, and easier to

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<v Speaker 1>sell because the goal was always get funded, grow as

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<v Speaker 1>large as possible, or well go public. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about that as well. They were just more ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>They want more ideas to do. Like I said with

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<v Speaker 1>the rock com bubble, they were just there were more

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<v Speaker 1>things that people could create. That's the thing that ideas

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<v Speaker 1>are a finite source. And when you incentivize this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking, you eventually stop incentivizing good ideas. You incentivize

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<v Speaker 1>the growth. And as a result, venture capital encouraged growth

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<v Speaker 1>at all cost, thinking above everything else. In twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>ben Horowitz said and I quote that the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>worse for an entrepreneur than startup hell, which was bankruptcy,

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<v Speaker 1>is startup purgatory. And I quote when you don't go bankrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>but you fail to build the Number one product in

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<v Speaker 1>the space that's purgatory. You have enough money with your

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<v Speaker 1>conservative burn rate to last for many years. You may

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<v Speaker 1>even be cash flow positive. However, you have zero chance

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<v Speaker 1>to becoming a high growth company. You have zero chance

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<v Speaker 1>of being anything but a very small technology business. From

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<v Speaker 1>the entrepreneur's point of view, this can be worse than

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<v Speaker 1>start up hell, since you're stuck with the small company.

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<v Speaker 1>What a fucking, noxious, ugly, horrifying thing to say. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me put it like this. If you run a good

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<v Speaker 1>business that people like and it's profitable, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>good your employees like it, your customers like it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good company. That isn't hell. And if you think

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<v Speaker 1>that way, you're a fucking psychopath. You're an actual nutter.

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<v Speaker 1>And this poisonous theory sadly paid off for him in

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<v Speaker 1>that startups got used to building high growth, low margin

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<v Speaker 1>companies that would easily sell to other companies of the

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<v Speaker 1>markets themselves, right up until it didn't. Of course, per

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<v Speaker 1>nerd Lawyer, IPOs have collapsed as next sit route along

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<v Speaker 1>with easy to raise capital. Per pitch Book, since twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, seventy percent of VC backed exits were valued

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<v Speaker 1>at less than the capital put in, with more than

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<v Speaker 1>a third of them being startups buying other startups. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, the money is drying up as the

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<v Speaker 1>value of VC's assets is decreasing at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>vcs need more money than ever because everybody is heavily

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<v Speaker 1>leveraged in the single most expensive funding climate in history,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we hit this historical liquidity crisis, the two

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<v Speaker 1>largest companies, open aron Anthropic are becoming drains on the

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<v Speaker 1>system that in a very real sense, are participating in

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<v Speaker 1>a massive redistribution of capital reserved for startups to one

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<v Speaker 1>of a few public companies. No really hear me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Open Ai is trying to raise as much as one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred billion dollars in funding so it can continue to

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.320
<v Speaker 1>pass money to one of a few public companies, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight billion dollars to Amazon Web Services over seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two point four billion dollars to Core We've over

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<v Speaker 1>five years, and two hundred and fifty billion dollars over

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<v Speaker 1>an indeterminate period on Microsoft Azure. If successful, open AI's

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<v Speaker 1>venture Telethon will raise more money than it has ever

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<v Speaker 1>been raised in a single round, draining funds that actual

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<v Speaker 1>startups need. Anthropic has agreed, as I mentioned, to over

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<v Speaker 1>seventy billion dollars in compute and chips deal across Google, Amazon,

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and Broadcom. And that's not including this hut eight compute

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<v Speaker 1>deal at Google is backing that I don't even really

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<v Speaker 1>want to think about. Think about it, just pre or

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<v Speaker 1>simple for a second. Instead of venture capital going to startups,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, early stage companies taking a risk that much

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<v Speaker 1>is going to Open AI and Anthropic so they can

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<v Speaker 1>hand it to big tech. This is big tech stealing

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<v Speaker 1>from Silicon Valley and to see it as anything else

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<v Speaker 1>is naive. And this money will come from what remains

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 1>of venture capital, private equity, and whatever hyperscalers will hand

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<v Speaker 1>over yet elsewhere, even the money that goes to regular

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>startups is ultimately being sent to those hyperscalers. That AI

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<v Speaker 1>startup that needs to keep raising one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in a single round isn't sending that cash to other startups.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mostly going to Open Ai, who sends it to Microsoft, Amazon, Core, Evil, Google,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthropic who sends it to Google, Microsoft or Amazon or

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<v Speaker 1>one of the large hyperscalers such as Amazon, Microsoft or Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley didn't birth the next big tech firm. It

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<v Speaker 1>incubated yet another hyperscalar level parasite, except instead of just

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<v Speaker 1>spending money on hyperscalar services and raising money to do so,

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>both Anthropic and open ai actively drain the venture capital

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<v Speaker 1>system as well as they both burn billions of dollars

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and need those billions of dollars to keep running the models.

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<v Speaker 1>The AI startups can pay them by creating something that's

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly expensive to run, so destructively expensive to run, they

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<v Speaker 1>can naturally create startups more dependent on the venture capital system,

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<v Speaker 1>and the venture capital system has no idea what to

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<v Speaker 1>do other than say, just grow baby. Both open ai

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<v Speaker 1>and anthropics models might be getting cheaper on a per

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>million token basis, but they use more tokens, which increases

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the cost of inference, which in turn increases the cost

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>of startups doing business, which in turn means Open Ai,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthropic and all connected startups lose more money, which increases

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<v Speaker 1>the burn on venture capital. This is a doom spiral,

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<v Speaker 1>one that can only be reversed through the most magical

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<v Speaker 1>and aggressive turnaround we will see in history, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will have to happen in the next year without fail,

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