Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: We are back with nine O two one O MG
Speaker 1: with my Lovely's Hi. Hi guys, Hi guys. They say
Speaker 1: that it's Christmas. It's Christmas. This is weirdly finally starting
Speaker 1: to get a little warmer. Tell me to nowhere for me.
Speaker 1: This came out of nowhere for me, this Christmas episode.
Speaker 1: What the heck is happening? Don't you feel like we're
Speaker 1: just always doing Christmas? So I was like, why did
Speaker 1: this air? When did this air? This is very important? Uh,
Speaker 1: this is episode somewhere in the world. It's Christmas at
Speaker 1: aired in December, December, actually December. This is so random,
Speaker 1: like moments before Christmas. But let me tell you what
Speaker 1: it's all about. So synopsis, memas of Christmas is Past
Speaker 1: are recalled as the Walsh family says Aloha to l A.
Speaker 1: Dylan is touched by the holiday spirit of two lost souls,
Speaker 1: Steve seeks paternal advice for his fraternal situation, and Andrea
Speaker 1: frets about attending her first midnight Mass with Jesse. And
Speaker 1: they're baring the headline here there's some Donna and David stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, directed by Bradley Gross, written by Charles
Speaker 1: Rosen and anybody interested in watching a flashback episode? No, nope,
Speaker 1: except except there's some major with major bombs happening. Wait,
Speaker 1: so the flashbacks were the bombs? No, the flashbacks were
Speaker 1: so boring it was like, get me through it. The
Speaker 1: only thing I learned from the flashbacks was that I
Speaker 1: really actually liked Carol's hair when it was longer. But
Speaker 1: you already knew that. Well I didn't because you said
Speaker 1: that you were like you hated her new haircut. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's kind of nice. Now I'm definitely
Speaker 1: on board with No. Okay, yeah, before we dig in
Speaker 1: minute episode, can we please talk about the hell that
Speaker 1: we all went through to watch this episode? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what happened? Why don't they let let the paper see
Speaker 1: what they want to see? We're prantically trying to get
Speaker 1: this episode done. Wait, what happened to Jenny? Jenny? Tell
Speaker 1: how you had to call? Well, it's not on Paramount
Speaker 1: Plus this one, you guys, which we usually watch it
Speaker 1: on only on DVD. It's only on DVD, which I
Speaker 1: happen to have. Weale, no, thanks to Christell who sent
Speaker 1: me the box set and uh I had it, so
Speaker 1: I was watching it and then you didn't couldn't you
Speaker 1: couldn't find yours. I had Amazon it and it wasn't
Speaker 1: coming in time. We all panic, if you save today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, Lola, do you still have that old box
Speaker 1: set of the show? And she goes at her close
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, but I only have season four.
Speaker 1: It was like, that's what we need. So we ubered,
Speaker 1: uh this episode ode to your house with the little candy.
Speaker 1: I wish I could scroll back on the text chain
Speaker 1: because it's like everybody's like, can you uber DVDs? Do
Speaker 1: we need to find a like a messenger? I don't like.
Speaker 1: I think you guys, I think we can uber it.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So the kids promptly tossed the
Speaker 1: DVD out and grabbed all of the candy that you
Speaker 1: stuck to it. Candy come from so I see it
Speaker 1: was so I'm thinking it was Christmas? Was it Christmas candy?
Speaker 1: Christmas candy? Because it was a Christmas episode? I just
Speaker 1: don't know. And f y, I that candy is still
Speaker 1: on my counter, um working on it. You all of
Speaker 1: mine are gone. They've eaten all of it. But thank you.
Speaker 1: It kept them up all night appreciate it. It was
Speaker 1: so hilarious the text. Okay, so then not that I
Speaker 1: mat her, but I don't. Not only did I not
Speaker 1: have the DVDs, I don't have a DVD player. So
Speaker 1: I was like, should you guys do without me? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you did? You pay? So then
Speaker 1: I ordered at Get. I ordered a DVD player, thinking
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. So I go to
Speaker 1: Target and pick it up. It's not a DVD player.
Speaker 1: It was some sort of like attachment to the computer,
Speaker 1: like a drive of something. Yea, how hard it is
Speaker 1: to get a DVD player these days, Like because I
Speaker 1: needed it to have the screen. So then I went
Speaker 1: to best Buy. I got it, and then I Amazon
Speaker 1: the DVDs. So I have seen it, but like we're
Speaker 1: in maybe one sixty oh my god, and yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: that's why we're late you guys this week. Yeah for
Speaker 1: an episode you guys that is predominantly flashbacks. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: When I started watching it was anyone pissed. I was like,
Speaker 1: hold this, no, I was like, no, no, no flashbacks.
Speaker 1: I was really pissed until I saw there was a
Speaker 1: lot of new information and good some some stuff. They
Speaker 1: saved it, So why December. It's sort of a in
Speaker 1: television world, like no one's watching television. December normally never
Speaker 1: even have new episodes. Yeah, nobody, that's all rerun timber
Speaker 1: back them. Back then it used to be more exciting
Speaker 1: because everybody was home and they had nothing else to
Speaker 1: do but watch TV. Like maybe, but November was like
Speaker 1: the sweeps, right right, that's right, November sweeps. So I
Speaker 1: see what IM saying. Like December, they're planning on people
Speaker 1: being out of town, so that's probably why they did
Speaker 1: cut budget and like do some flashbacks, but they dropped
Speaker 1: it in so many new bom explosive things, so it's
Speaker 1: like you didn't see it. Whoa not to mention that
Speaker 1: the Waltches almost die you guys. Okay, but we'll get
Speaker 1: to it. Okay, should we start at the beginning? Gender start? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's start with right off the top, with the ugly
Speaker 1: Walsh decorations. You'd think they'd have prettier Christmas Day core. Sorry,
Speaker 1: something disgusting came out of the oven. I was shocked.
Speaker 1: Cindy usually does better than that. I think she was
Speaker 1: like half in, half out because she knew she was
Speaker 1: going on a trip to Hawaii, so she kind of
Speaker 1: just like throw some stuff up. She like phoned it in.
Speaker 1: Does anyone know what that was? It was? It didn't
Speaker 1: was in a ham that was burnt on top of
Speaker 1: it was like and the packing montage. I thought it
Speaker 1: was cute when Brenda was trying on her bathing suit
Speaker 1: in front of the mirror. A little odd, but okay, cute.
Speaker 1: And then when Brandon came in with his like snorkel situation,
Speaker 1: that was really cute. That was really cute because I
Speaker 1: feel like that's what we all do is we're going
Speaker 1: on vacation. How does this look? Does it hit me
Speaker 1: in the sunglasses? Picks? Oh? No? Pick? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: is someone they're taking it? Or do they know how
Speaker 1: to use a camera? Good point? Who took the pictures?
Speaker 1: A question I would never think and never want to again.
Speaker 1: But yes, who took that photo? I don't know? But
Speaker 1: and then okay, so they sit down, they have they're
Speaker 1: having their their meal, right, Christmas Eve Day supper? Right?
Speaker 1: And then Dylan comes over and then I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what did I miss? Like three episodes?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening. I felt the same way.
Speaker 1: On this episode. I was like, wait, who's he with?
Speaker 1: I suddenly like had a brain fart and didn't know.
Speaker 1: Sorry you hate part. I had a brain and didn't
Speaker 1: know who is with Brenda? And then he was kissing
Speaker 1: Donna and I was like, what the hell is this
Speaker 1: the Bachelor? I was like, what was gonna kiss? Kiss? Kelly?
Speaker 1: I'm still kissing lip? Kissing lip? Everybody wow, waiting for
Speaker 1: COVID times. But Mona was prevalent then, so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what happened, but that's probably how we all got motto.
Speaker 1: The most disturbing part is I'm gonna say that Kelly
Speaker 1: semi encouraged another kiss or encouraged to kiss, which was cute,
Speaker 1: just cute, slash pervy and weird. She watched it and
Speaker 1: then I mean she was like okay, guys, but they
Speaker 1: were like okay and it laughed it off, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what is happening in this world here? And
Speaker 1: also the lip kiss with Brenda. These guys are nineteen.
Speaker 1: You guys are like nineteen right in front of the parents,
Speaker 1: just full lip kiss, like that is not something teenagers do.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is um all weird? But although
Speaker 1: Dylans so nice with bringing everyone the gifts. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was so cute and his little Fanta hat with
Speaker 1: when he was flopping it around. Do you remember how
Speaker 1: he remember Johnna's birthday, which is a thing because no
Speaker 1: one remembers dn his birthday. But then he did hand
Speaker 1: a big bag to you and say, I have a
Speaker 1: big sack for you and your sister. What did anyone
Speaker 1: catch that? Nobody but you knew I would They sin?
Speaker 1: He's all sin, He's really he was. Yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: like it was Luke Perry. Yeah, he had the spirit
Speaker 1: in him. He really let's feeling it well. Bradley Gross,
Speaker 1: who directed this episode, was one of our first a
Speaker 1: d s and so everyone was really close with him
Speaker 1: and friend like with him. So he probably felt a
Speaker 1: little more loose doing this. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: You're right, because yeah, we have worked day in and
Speaker 1: day out with Bradley for what two years three four
Speaker 1: years now, and so everybody was very chummy. I bet you. Also,
Speaker 1: it's also an episode clearly you were going on break
Speaker 1: right like you're shooting shooting, So you probably shot this
Speaker 1: sometime in November and you're about to get the holidays off.
Speaker 1: Everybody seemed to punch drunk, like everyone Yeah they did,
Speaker 1: so I'm feeling like, no, we felt we wouldn't film
Speaker 1: in a month before it aired, right, and it was
Speaker 1: like more too much. I don't yeah, because how could
Speaker 1: know they couldn't okay around that quick? Before the break?
Speaker 1: I think we were just we were happy in this episode.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was a good vibe on set.
Speaker 1: The twins weren't. The twins were on a plane somewhere
Speaker 1: and we were just all like when the cats away,
Speaker 1: the mice will play. I just want to keep talking
Speaker 1: about the trip that the Walls just taking. Finish that
Speaker 1: because yes, I know at the beginning, the middle, and
Speaker 1: the end, but there it's just too much momentum. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they go on the airplane. First of all, Jim
Speaker 1: must be doing pretty well and get to everybody first
Speaker 1: class tickets. He I was thinking that. I was shocked
Speaker 1: by that. Remember those airplanes though that had the stairs
Speaker 1: up to that They still have those some day. I
Speaker 1: don't know. They have like a double dairy. That mean,
Speaker 1: wasn't Jim like didn't we go on like to Europe
Speaker 1: on ones like that? Like why they had like ones
Speaker 1: with a staircase and you can go back and walk
Speaker 1: in and and I don't know, you could probably smoke
Speaker 1: on those airplanes too. I just do not see Jim
Speaker 1: Walsh doing that. But whatever, And it was very roomy
Speaker 1: first class cabin beyond you know that's not a real airplane.
Speaker 1: Because but when people know this, like when you film
Speaker 1: we had to do this on pH Remember we had
Speaker 1: to have like a half an airplane brought into this
Speaker 1: set onto the stages. And it's always like extra big,
Speaker 1: like it's always way bigger than the normal bathrooms. I
Speaker 1: mean the airplane. Yeah, oh my god, they look like couches.
Speaker 1: They look good. I want those. And if Brenda is
Speaker 1: so scared of flying, why did she have her seatbelt
Speaker 1: on all the time? I see? Then? Was she afraid
Speaker 1: when she went to prepare us with you? No, it
Speaker 1: was my fair? Why did she have to thank you?
Speaker 1: Why she's taking on my stuff? It didn't make sense,
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, she's afraid of just be
Speaker 1: bop to Vegas for her non wedding without and she
Speaker 1: went to college and wherever she went I forgot. I
Speaker 1: feel like Paris. We talked about me being afraid, which
Speaker 1: was a call back to me being afraid in real life,
Speaker 1: and she was fine with me and never said she
Speaker 1: would had a fear, and now she has a fear. Oh,
Speaker 1: and they just sat there, and they sat there, and
Speaker 1: they sat there having their flashbacks, and I was like,
Speaker 1: get me off this airplane. But luckily the landing gear
Speaker 1: isn't working properly, so they're going to return the plane
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, which I'm not sure how that fixes
Speaker 1: the problem, but it will save them sometime because how
Speaker 1: far in were they at this point. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of flashbacks. So I feel like because it seems like
Speaker 1: remember when, first of all, remember when Brenda missed the
Speaker 1: takeoff in quotes nobody doesn't know nobody. Yeah, well, I've
Speaker 1: used a few takeoffs. Were you asleep? Like yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're awake, you physically feel it, you know. But
Speaker 1: like genders, this one, I'm scared, Like she'll hold my
Speaker 1: hand and we'll like talk about distract and like yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's what they were doing. But there's no way
Speaker 1: she didn't feel it. Look, I never fly, have and
Speaker 1: flown on a plane since seven or something. But oh
Speaker 1: yeah you can, sugarman. You don't go on airplanes anymore.
Speaker 1: What happened? I've always hated flying, and then I since
Speaker 1: I was like a teenager, and I took a pause.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I haven't been on a plane. Anything bad
Speaker 1: happen the cause this just me being crazy. But that
Speaker 1: even what from what I remember from the nineties is
Speaker 1: they say we're taking off off. Everybody put on your seat. Though,
Speaker 1: so Brenda would have known they're taking off. She didn't
Speaker 1: miss it. She knew you were taking off? But like, wait,
Speaker 1: how do you get to New York? I just wait,
Speaker 1: Like when the last time you watched you? I'm really seven.
Speaker 1: Where in the world do you go? Amy Sugarman years
Speaker 1: love California? So I just go up and down the
Speaker 1: coast California. Wait, wait, wait? Will will you get on
Speaker 1: a boat like a cruise? Yeah? I have a little
Speaker 1: boat in Tahoe that I cruise around on. Wait lake,
Speaker 1: we need to get a traveling somewhere. This is there's
Speaker 1: nowhere I need to go. And I can't handle that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, between you and her, I'm not flying
Speaker 1: anywhere with you. You will hate it, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrest. So I flew with Ryan Seacrest and I
Speaker 1: made a whole six or seven ish, maybe eight somewhere
Speaker 1: in that room. And he had to hold my hand
Speaker 1: for five hours from l A to New York, and
Speaker 1: then he had to do it again. We went to Seattle,
Speaker 1: and then he goes, you don't have to fly with
Speaker 1: me anymore. It's awkward holding it again. Yeah, I gotta again.
Speaker 1: I was like, sweet, still work for him, but I
Speaker 1: certainly this is a mystery to me. I just can't
Speaker 1: believe you don't go anywhere in the world. I go
Speaker 1: so many places just drivable. I'm into that. And I've
Speaker 1: been to Arizona. Sure, I bet I'll go to Oregon
Speaker 1: one day soon. Hey, you want to go, let's drive
Speaker 1: to Montana together. That's really far. Oh my god, one
Speaker 1: day we could make a whole show a road trip
Speaker 1: driving trip. I would be I'd be happy not to
Speaker 1: get on a plane and just this country. I love driving,
Speaker 1: Oh god, my favorite. Okay it back fact, Branda doesn't
Speaker 1: hate it. Brenda doesn't hate it. But now, but the
Speaker 1: whole part where like her life was flashing before eyes,
Speaker 1: and Brandon's life was flashing before his eyes. But they
Speaker 1: didn't show Jim and Cindy's life flashing before there. I
Speaker 1: was so relieved. When they landed, they embraced a little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that music, her cooking, her gardening, all
Speaker 1: of it exciting. Um, how come Brenda's flashbacks, her life
Speaker 1: flashing before our eyes was predominantly her and her brother
Speaker 1: more than like her and Dylan creep Skis just saying no,
Speaker 1: not well because that's her bread. I did not feel
Speaker 1: that the pilot was handling the situation in a normal
Speaker 1: pilot fashion. The flight attendants, Hey, ever, good, I like it,
Speaker 1: but we're going to just give it a go. Like
Speaker 1: it was like like I didn't get how severe it was.
Speaker 1: I was like, is this yeah? And where flight attendants
Speaker 1: coming around reassuring people and handing out for them because
Speaker 1: there weren't any to find the voiceover I that did
Speaker 1: the pilot's voice. He seemed famous. Maybe Lorraine can find
Speaker 1: it while we're still chatting. Wow, that would be impressive. Nuts.
Speaker 1: It was exciting there. Towards the end, I will say,
Speaker 1: when they were going to crash, I got a little
Speaker 1: more excited. I cried. I cried, you guys, I wasn't
Speaker 1: there for the whole time. And then looking on their faces,
Speaker 1: they all played it really well. I actually had a
Speaker 1: moment there. I cried, you were worried, like you were
Speaker 1: worried inside, even though you knew if they don't die,
Speaker 1: they this is the show sucks me and I forget.
Speaker 1: Did you really get cried? Literally cried. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: probably from so many other things, and this was my
Speaker 1: outlet where the Walsh zone was crashing to just let
Speaker 1: it go. But and also like then they just be
Speaker 1: bopped into the peach pit. Yeah, like no big they
Speaker 1: needed a burger after that. When I was pissed, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't even get to see them in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: even though I knew they weren't really going to Hawaii,
Speaker 1: like show us something. I would have enjoyed that. It
Speaker 1: would have been fun. But yeah, no, nobody went to I.
Speaker 1: Although the flashbacks were annoying, other than the one when
Speaker 1: she worked in the boutique, because I just was always good.
Speaker 1: This is Wall was such a baller in that one.
Speaker 1: I'm not at it. That flash true, you want to
Speaker 1: go to a different storyline now, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: talked about that was okay? Which one do we want
Speaker 1: to talk about next? Don and David Horror say yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Dylan Dylan, Dylan gets a baby sister what not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like a grown person. She looks just like him,
Speaker 1: though it's weird, good casting the Land of the Mom.
Speaker 1: She looks just like him and yes, weird. I'm confining,
Speaker 1: So I don't remember what happens. I know she stays,
Speaker 1: but I do. Is this really? Like, if there's something
Speaker 1: confusing about I talked to you through this, what to say,
Speaker 1: like is this not real? Is this a scam? And
Speaker 1: then it is? What? No, not exactly? Okay, it is
Speaker 1: and it isn't. So so she's really related to him? Well,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be honest to this day, I'm not
Speaker 1: a hundred percent convinced either way because there's so much
Speaker 1: to come with these guys and oh, oh my god.
Speaker 1: For years Yeah, I actually didn't a steep dive because
Speaker 1: and I don't want to give away because we'll get
Speaker 1: to it all. But it's like, even now having seen
Speaker 1: all the episodes, I'm not I believe e that there
Speaker 1: is truth to it, but it is debatable, like fans
Speaker 1: will have opinions either way as to whether this was
Speaker 1: their father is really Jack, which I am of the
Speaker 1: mindset that yes, her father is is Jack McKay. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there was not like Jerry Springer like DNA moment
Speaker 1: like you are the father never happens because but but
Speaker 1: all is not right with these with this woman, this
Speaker 1: woman Eric is so and there definitely could be an
Speaker 1: argument made that we don't know for sure that Jack
Speaker 1: McKay is the father, and I just I believe that
Speaker 1: later Dylan even acknowledges that and that he doesn't care.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting yeah, because he's so happy, like once
Speaker 1: he accepts it, he gets so happy to have a
Speaker 1: little family to go get a tree for and do
Speaker 1: all the things for. It was really touching. That was adorable.
Speaker 1: And after this season of him like which where are
Speaker 1: you going? Which where are you going? With who? I
Speaker 1: kind of was like, Okay, he got redeemed here like
Speaker 1: grounded him a little. And it does give a juicy storyline.
Speaker 1: The confusing part is that the mom says, just do
Speaker 1: like we talked about on the bus, that's where you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also if they have no money and live in
Speaker 1: the shelter, how do they afford Disneyland? How are they
Speaker 1: possibly going to Disneyland? Because remember she said he got themickets,
Speaker 1: but before she says they were going there to go
Speaker 1: to and I'm like, how how do you afford the
Speaker 1: most expensive place ever? She met? We would like to
Speaker 1: go to Disneyland, and we're hoping you will splurte for this.
Speaker 1: Is it always expensive like it is now though, because
Speaker 1: you have to have, like have like a second job
Speaker 1: to go to Disneyland? Now it is literally in saying,
Speaker 1: and I think it was probably always relatively expensive, Like
Speaker 1: those tickets are so expensive, and then you don't even
Speaker 1: you haven't even had like one of you can downtown
Speaker 1: Disney all day long whatever you want to, and then
Speaker 1: you go home and you're like, didn't spend all its,
Speaker 1: but you didn't go on any rights. I know that
Speaker 1: people save for a long, long long time to be
Speaker 1: able to take their kids to Disneyland. And this woman
Speaker 1: admits she's living in a Red Cross shelter and somehow
Speaker 1: she has arrived in l A and it's going to
Speaker 1: go to literally the most expensive place you can. But
Speaker 1: if she said that, then she would have had tickets,
Speaker 1: and he had to get them tickets. So we I
Speaker 1: felt like they were going to get him used to
Speaker 1: be able to buy him when you showed up, so
Speaker 1: more to come that storyline sticking around for a while,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Steve Sanders. Did you have anything to do?
Speaker 1: In this episode? He gets at Brandon bitching to Nat
Speaker 1: about now he's always in a pickle because he's an
Speaker 1: ide horrible in this episode? What well, here's what wasn't
Speaker 1: adorable though? Okay about it. He's he's there talking to
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Steve or somebody, but
Speaker 1: he's holding two plates of food right like here and
Speaker 1: like right here, and he's talking to people talk talk, talk,
Speaker 1: spit spit, spit all over the people's burgers and fries.
Speaker 1: I really had a problem with that. Do you ever
Speaker 1: see that happening in your in like a restaurant and
Speaker 1: people like a waiter or waitresses carry around food and
Speaker 1: they're talking or going to other tables with your plate
Speaker 1: of food. You're like, whoa, I don't want that now,
Speaker 1: and they're getting so cold. I am never thought that,
Speaker 1: but you just ruined. I don't know now you're going
Speaker 1: to look for it? Whoa? Anyway, Nat is spitting all
Speaker 1: over life in your own hands. When you go anywhere,
Speaker 1: you don't know what happens in the back. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: all hear stories so in the world. So Steve basically
Speaker 1: gets Brandon, ends up helping him with the professor and Marianne,
Speaker 1: and then we don't even really have that in this yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just what we know. Steve exists. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot going on here, but we are certain that
Speaker 1: John Sears is setting him up at this point. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's just sort of like we we sort of
Speaker 1: know that, but we haven't furthered that along in this episode.
Speaker 1: But you know who we should talk about? Andrea and Jesse.
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about? Her outfit at church?
Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about that? I think she's
Speaker 1: eight months pregnant. No, she is not, you guys, she
Speaker 1: is so pregnant. Gabriel is not that pregnant. Wish you
Speaker 1: I know this last time, like she had the baby rate. God,
Speaker 1: she's definitely pregnant. Ever showed. We were like questioning her showing,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like she jumped Like that's why we're
Speaker 1: hiding it. They're doing their best her from here up.
Speaker 1: So basically, remember when she comes to the door at
Speaker 1: the wall ships, they're going almost full body and she's
Speaker 1: being shot just like we're on a zoom. She must
Speaker 1: her outfits are all hiding it and it's not well good,
Speaker 1: which I'm fine with. Like, she's pregnant, but I don't
Speaker 1: understand she's going to be pregnant on the show. Why wait?
Speaker 1: I thought they put the pregnancy in the show because
Speaker 1: she was pregnant in real life. So what the heck? Wait? What? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: Jessie and Andrea are pregnant. Wait wait they are? What
Speaker 1: What did I say? Just you don't remember this, Jenny.
Speaker 1: They put the baby in the show, So why is
Speaker 1: she hiding it? When did they do the whole reason?
Speaker 1: They like, like got rid of her last boyfriend, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a new one. This is one she's gonna
Speaker 1: get married to have a baby's had an episode yet? Wait?
Speaker 1: First of all, Jenny, some one of my friends texted
Speaker 1: me that's obsessed with Nino Tono and obsessed with the podcast.
Speaker 1: I literally tried to explain, you literally don't know. I
Speaker 1: literally don't know anything other than what it says on
Speaker 1: this episode recap and what I'm seeing in front of
Speaker 1: my eyeballs. When I watched the show, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but then like it li'le jar and I'll be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they had a baby. I think on the show chance
Speaker 1: when you said that, because then I thought I was
Speaker 1: wrong and didn't remember, right, that's why they like she
Speaker 1: leaves the show. Yeah, so you're you're right. Why hide it?
Speaker 1: Why not let them have a baby. But I guess
Speaker 1: it's just too soon. They only had their break, they
Speaker 1: just did it for the first time. But hello, it's
Speaker 1: they make everything happen in one episode when they want
Speaker 1: to story wise, So why did they just shove it
Speaker 1: in first time and shove it in? Yeah? Exactly, because
Speaker 1: why is David so mad at Dawn? Okay, David is
Speaker 1: a punks That's why I'm sorry, but like it's skipped
Speaker 1: from last episode. I thought I missed something here too,
Speaker 1: because I was like, I feel like his choices it
Speaker 1: was too much too soon at the beginning. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why the producers would let because they're so
Speaker 1: protective of these these characters and the main cast members,
Speaker 1: and they never let any of us do anything without
Speaker 1: like some sort of like redeeming like heart going on,
Speaker 1: like something underlying. And with him, it's just like he's
Speaker 1: sexually frustrated because to be a jackass, to Donna, and
Speaker 1: like what it was so weird. He's loved her forever.
Speaker 1: He's not going to suddenly one day on Christmas, on
Speaker 1: her birthday, wake up and be on her birthday, her
Speaker 1: birthday not redeemable. Sorry, on her birthday, not redeemable. But
Speaker 1: it also is crazy. David's like a sweetheart, So it
Speaker 1: just didn't make sense. I just didn't understand. I literally
Speaker 1: the first scene when he was so angry, I was
Speaker 1: just like, we did I did they have a fight
Speaker 1: the last episode now he was frustrated, But is he
Speaker 1: Is he back on the on the DJ drugs. No,
Speaker 1: he's just being a weirdo. He's just odd. He's very odd,
Speaker 1: which was just weird, absolutely bizarre. They do film things
Speaker 1: out of order. Maybe he wasn't sure. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Something got lost in translation. He should have. It should
Speaker 1: have been a little bit more of a build, like
Speaker 1: And it was kind of pissing me off the way
Speaker 1: Donna was just like like she was just taking it,
Speaker 1: like taking it. Yes, she's just trying to make the
Speaker 1: best of it, and I'm like, what's coming on? Already
Speaker 1: apologized basically for his patients in existence last episode, which
Speaker 1: I was pissed about and now she just said Matt
Speaker 1: and he's treating her like this on I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: as females, we liked him, not get and we're like,
Speaker 1: but it's Christmas, your dreaming like this, but it's my birthday?
Speaker 1: Like sorry, I went to in a little bit like oh,
Speaker 1: I would have been passive aggressive and been like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's okay, but like he's also been dating her for
Speaker 1: years and lives with her and loves her, and then
Speaker 1: suddenly he's just gonna wake up and be like I
Speaker 1: just can't take it anymore. Weirdest ending of an episode ever, though,
Speaker 1: like the way it just it just stopped. But how
Speaker 1: can no one this episode, aside from Dylan and when
Speaker 1: David breaks up with her acknowledges it's her birthday, even Kelly.
Speaker 1: We even go to a party at Mells house. I
Speaker 1: mean it looked it was a party, but it looked
Speaker 1: like a funeral based on what they were wearing, but
Speaker 1: it was. There was no mention of to quickly talk about.
Speaker 1: We talk about I'm like, merry Christmas. Cally You're like yeah,
Speaker 1: but like you don't say like happy birthday down like
Speaker 1: what the heck care? And then David. They're like, it's
Speaker 1: Christmas and the peach bit. No one's saying Donna happy birthday, like,
Speaker 1: oh sorry, I'm sorry about that. Thank you. Although you
Speaker 1: were wearing a fabulous caw next sort of sweater in
Speaker 1: that scene that looked great. Oh so I watched this
Speaker 1: episode with Bow, my five year old, and he was well,
Speaker 1: first of all, he was on his little like who's
Speaker 1: on my phone? And he was playing his little thing
Speaker 1: and I said, look up, look you see mommy on TV?
Speaker 1: And he looked up and um he said, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I'm right there, and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't look like you. Nothing about that looks like you.
Speaker 1: But then he kept going and he's like, the outfit
Speaker 1: doesn't look like you. I'm like, okay, that's fine. The
Speaker 1: hair doesn't look like you. It's darker, okay. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what about the face, and he goes, no,
Speaker 1: it's definitely definitely different. Like I said, well, I was
Speaker 1: young then, and all I could like and it too,
Speaker 1: is you have teenage brothers and sisters like I was
Speaker 1: a teenager there, it's a long time ago. And then
Speaker 1: he goes, but your voice is different, like the emotion
Speaker 1: is different, which was very like, that was kind of
Speaker 1: fancy for a five year old, very perceptive. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I let it drop. But you're like, that's because
Speaker 1: I was alive, because that's before will was taken out
Speaker 1: of me. First of all, I actually think you look
Speaker 1: a lot like that right now. You're sort of wearing
Speaker 1: a similar sweater if your hair was darker, and you
Speaker 1: just hold it there right there. Yeah, it's me. It's mean,
Speaker 1: damn it. Did anyone think it was weird that it
Speaker 1: mells fancy party? That you were serving pizza rolls? The
Speaker 1: whole party was just I hate that party. It was
Speaker 1: just in a corner being mad and MOPy, and everybody
Speaker 1: was wearing brown and the house was so ugly. That
Speaker 1: seems I don't remember filing recollection. I did enjoy the
Speaker 1: Kelly dentist scene though with me. Yeah, that was sweet
Speaker 1: and nice bonding with mel. I did enjoy it until
Speaker 1: they hugged at the end, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: that was little. Did it feel weird? Yeah? I try
Speaker 1: to ignore it. I got a little creoked out from
Speaker 1: my young girl self. No offense, but UH also debated
Speaker 1: whether or not to bring this up, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave it to you guys. In the peach pit
Speaker 1: scene on Christmas, you know they're obviously serving um people
Speaker 1: in need. One of the costumes that was selected was
Speaker 1: hich costume not match the others? Like I understand what
Speaker 1: they were trying to do, but like everybody looked relatively
Speaker 1: are you talking about who's costume? Who's even who is
Speaker 1: it one of the guy's costumes? Look, it was so
Speaker 1: over the top, like torn up and like like this
Speaker 1: is what you wear when you're being of service to others.
Speaker 1: When one of the home like the homeless guy or something,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't match with all the others, and
Speaker 1: it was just looked like, well he had had a
Speaker 1: specially hard time. Amy, give him a break. Just like
Speaker 1: what I did not notice that. Please don't be mad
Speaker 1: because I did, and I don't want to be inappropriate,
Speaker 1: but it was just like that just looked like they
Speaker 1: were trying too hard. But guess what it was an actor, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was wardrobe. It's not real, just peel. It's okay,
Speaker 1: do you guys want to grade this one? You want
Speaker 1: or whatever? Give it a number to break up team
Speaker 1: for one second? Okay, yes, okay, so he could have
Speaker 1: played it off. Well, he did say I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about this on Christmas and it's your birthday.
Speaker 1: But don't you guys think he could have waited waited yeah,
Speaker 1: like maybe six more hours, yeah, or not been an ass.
Speaker 1: He was such a jerk. Also, I don't even see
Speaker 1: why he would break up with her. They don't even
Speaker 1: have any problems, they're doing great, and he does it
Speaker 1: in the back room of the peach Pit. It's okay.
Speaker 1: So here's what it felt like. Yeah, exactly what you're saying, Jen.
Speaker 1: You know when like those sleazy scenes were a girl
Speaker 1: and they're like at a party and they take her
Speaker 1: in a back room and like he didn't even put
Speaker 1: down a blanket, Like I'm just kidding, none, that's your story, Like,
Speaker 1: but like it felt like that, but the reverse, because
Speaker 1: it's about no sex, not someone having sex, But it
Speaker 1: felt like dirty to do it like in the back
Speaker 1: room and not even like take her out to the
Speaker 1: car and tell her like he was just going to
Speaker 1: do it right there, and it's just gross and it
Speaker 1: really upset me and you guys, we often talk on
Speaker 1: the show about this thing where they blow in your
Speaker 1: eyes to make you cry. And that's why, Jennet, I
Speaker 1: think we've lost our sight. It's not because we're old,
Speaker 1: we think we literally think it was because they blew
Speaker 1: menthal into our eyes to make us cry. So if
Speaker 1: you notice, and I always say like it was, it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to cry on camera. I know where
Speaker 1: you're going. Okay. So they cut to Donna and she's
Speaker 1: like what and then they cut back to David and
Speaker 1: they cut back to her and she has full tears tears,
Speaker 1: and so they were like, stop, stop, hold the wrong
Speaker 1: we need tears the flower and the fluffer and I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. And they come in and make up and
Speaker 1: like okay, and then they really got you good, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, um, all right and go action. I noticed that, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm done. I was also more fixated on just like okay,
Speaker 1: and then you're going to go back to the apartment
Speaker 1: and like all live there together. Yeah, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: What's going to happen? This dude's not thinking this through
Speaker 1: and also what a jerk? You know why? Because he's
Speaker 1: not thinking with this, he's thinking with do you know what?
Speaker 1: I single handedly took him from totally geek to totally chic. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a call back to Can't Buy Me Lave?
Speaker 1: But what you You took him from totally geeks, totally cheek,
Speaker 1: and now he's back to totally geek. No, he's fine,
Speaker 1: he's a cool guy now and whatever, and so he's
Speaker 1: like by Donna, like no, he's not. Like it's so upsetting,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why they would do this and
Speaker 1: why like the audience would ever forgive him. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't remember it going down this way, So I'm a
Speaker 1: little like shocked. Well I thought he cheated on her,
Speaker 1: but apparently not because they're broken up, so he can
Speaker 1: do what he wants. Yeah, but then you take him back,
Speaker 1: so I have issues. We got problems coming and also
Speaker 1: why did we drop all these bombs like the day
Speaker 1: before Christmas on it. I'm just That's what I'm soberfuddled by.
Speaker 1: On a flashback episode, It's like, like, imagine, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't sleep with that guy because then
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life, like whether I ended
Speaker 1: up with him or not, I I would remember that my
Speaker 1: first love, the guy lost my virginity too, broke up
Speaker 1: with me on my birthday. Like that's something you can't
Speaker 1: ever get past. In the back room of the peach
Speaker 1: Pit Diner, the steakhouse. You marry him. I'm pissed you
Speaker 1: marry him. Just yeah, just case you forgot. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't forget. Look what, show me your number, Show me
Speaker 1: your But you guys, I know my number, which is
Speaker 1: super shocking. What my number is going to be? You
Speaker 1: really my numbers to go one to three to oh god,
Speaker 1: oh my god? Can I read? Mine's only a six
Speaker 1: because I invested in the Donna David thing. If it
Speaker 1: wasn't for that, it would have gotten a two, as
Speaker 1: you do. You know, it's so weird. I'm giving it
Speaker 1: a nine because nine the episode so ridiculous. But there's
Speaker 1: so many important things that continue to be important that
Speaker 1: I'm like, I have to give it a nine. You're
Speaker 1: one of those hardcore fans that it means something to
Speaker 1: you for the future and the thing that's like you
Speaker 1: hold on to your heart to buy it. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they gave us these things that become very
Speaker 1: long storylines in the arc of nine, O two and oh,
Speaker 1: but that they just like buried in this weird flashback
Speaker 1: episode of Christmas. But all right, respect respect Aaron Spelling,
Speaker 1: this is what you wanted. That's a that's their show. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Fox was like, we need to cut budgets.
Speaker 1: We need a flashback episode somewhere here. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like we're cutting budgets, but we're we're going to
Speaker 1: the biggest things. It felt like people are tired. They're like,
Speaker 1: just let's just write this quick and go okay, so
Speaker 1: you can get everyone's schedules together. Like, okay, we can't
Speaker 1: get everyone schedules to match. So we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: plain thing, and then we're gonna do this random Dylan's
Speaker 1: got a sister, and then we only have time for
Speaker 1: everybody to be together at the peach pit, and we've
Speaker 1: got to shoot this in and that's how Donna's and
Speaker 1: David are going to have to break up. Sorry, that's
Speaker 1: just we'll just do it in the back room. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you're right now. They could have done it
Speaker 1: at the beach apartment because obviously we shot there one
Speaker 1: day and they should have. Anyways, just make sure Dylan's
Speaker 1: kissing everybody, everybody on the lips it so give it
Speaker 1: a nine. Alright. Next week is episode sixteen. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: can watch that a little easier. It's called crunch time,
Speaker 1: also really fast. Why is this on DVD? I was
Speaker 1: googling it, read it, threading it. There's no music that
Speaker 1: couldn't have been flipping was the reason. It was like,
Speaker 1: who is the voice of the pilot? Is he the issue?
Speaker 1: What was the issue that we cannot have this on
Speaker 1: Paramount plus? Someone must know that answer. There's gotta be
Speaker 1: a reason. Why sign them somewhere better amount? Let's ask ask?
Speaker 1: Because I literally wrote why is this episode not available
Speaker 1: on streaming? Someone asked, people know? Oh, people know? Good call.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I wanted to hate it. I was
Speaker 1: so mad, and I'm like, I loved it. Hello Erica,
Speaker 1: She's here to stay, guys, she is. She is a
Speaker 1: blood in here. All right, have a good week, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's not Christmas, just so you know, Yeah, it's too
Speaker 1: Scrooge