WEBVTT - The Biggest Scam in Country Music

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<v Speaker 1>What's up. It's Granger Smith. This is the Granger Smith Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode five. This is the first podcast I've made since

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<v Speaker 1>I've released it to the public. The previous four are

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<v Speaker 1>now available, and you guys have made it one of

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<v Speaker 1>the top podcasts in all the music category. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that. That motivates me. Memphis, Tennessee. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>am today. I'm parked next to the venue. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my bus Wildflower, just like I do

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<v Speaker 1>all these podcasts. And I'm on a busy road, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's traffic, there's cars passing by. You might hear some horns.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it shouldn't change the podcast. It should add

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<v Speaker 1>to the flavor today Episode five. I want it. I

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<v Speaker 1>want this to be a little bit different. Now. The

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<v Speaker 1>previous four have all been a story about me on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, how I became a fan, how I became

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<v Speaker 1>a songwriter, road travel tour stories. I'm gonna switch gears.

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<v Speaker 1>This is totally different. But it's something that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like needs to be talked about because I'm seeing more

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<v Speaker 1>and more of it, and it's a scary thing. There

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<v Speaker 1>are people out there impersonating celebrities, singers, actors, athletes, and

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<v Speaker 1>stealing money on the internet, on social media. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>digging in. I'm gonna find out who these people are

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't get scammed. Looking out the window, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dreary, cloudy, a little bit rainy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath of Hurricane Irma and moved up from the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic through Florida and now it's broken up. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee and we're seeing that today. Tonight is a

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<v Speaker 1>guitar pool. That's the style of show that we're about

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<v Speaker 1>to play. And that means it's me and other singers

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<v Speaker 1>on the stage at the at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 1>we each play a song and we go down the

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<v Speaker 1>line and we start over and we do that for

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<v Speaker 1>five rounds. Now today it's me and Josh Turner and

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<v Speaker 1>Easton Corbin. So we'll get up there. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>guitar player with me and so we'll have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>acoustics and the other guys will do the same and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll each play a song. And it's a very different

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<v Speaker 1>style show, very low key. We tell stories, we interact

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<v Speaker 1>between each other. It's not your typical loud guitars, lights

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<v Speaker 1>in your face, running around the stage. It's very low

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<v Speaker 1>key in Varieties Despice of Life. So this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fun, sold out Wednesday night. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about some uneasy, scary stuff today

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<v Speaker 1>about scammers on the internet. But there is some good

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<v Speaker 1>news today. Today we announced that I'm coming out with

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<v Speaker 1>a new album. Twenty seventh is the date. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>When the Good Guys Win. And it's great to finally

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<v Speaker 1>say it and finally tell people because I've known for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. I mean, I've been working on this

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<v Speaker 1>for about a year, but it's good to finally let

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<v Speaker 1>people know you could expect new music and I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about it. So in the near future you'll start

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a lot more about this and a lot more details.

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<v Speaker 1>But until now, at least the title and the date

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<v Speaker 1>are out in the universe. Are you ready. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little creepy. I don't like this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like this subject, but I need to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you're going to be surprised at what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me and why I decided to make this

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<v Speaker 1>an actual podcast. But I started hearing about this, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess about a year ago. Here's the gist. Of it.

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<v Speaker 1>People were getting on social media and they're creating an account,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so easy to do, you could do it

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty seconds. They create an account with a celebrity's name,

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<v Speaker 1>they use all their same pictures, they fill up the media,

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<v Speaker 1>they retweet what that celebrity is saying, or they completely

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<v Speaker 1>recreate the same post that the celebrity made. Essentially, they

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<v Speaker 1>create the same looking page. So you just scan it.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a celebrities page, but it doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>blue check. Now that's the key to this whole story.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't have a blue check, it's not that celebrity, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That means they're not verified. So the whole thing, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole problem could be solved if everyone just really paid

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<v Speaker 1>attention to that blue check. If it has a blue check,

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<v Speaker 1>it's them. Unfortunately people don't. People fall victim and they're gullible.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe this, and so because of that, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to explain more to the story. They're doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>they'll take the name and they change one letter in

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<v Speaker 1>the actual username. So for instance, if it's me, it

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<v Speaker 1>would say Granger smith S M I T H. So

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<v Speaker 1>one letter's changed. It allows them to get the username.

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<v Speaker 1>But then in the title the main in bold print,

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<v Speaker 1>it says Granger Smith spelled normal. So that's how they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to take that domain, that user name because it's

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<v Speaker 1>slightly spelled wrong. Here's the purpose. The reason they do

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<v Speaker 1>this is because they could follow you, or they could

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<v Speaker 1>add you or like you, depending on the social media,

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<v Speaker 1>and they expect you to go, oh wow, Garth Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>followed me, so I'll follow him back. When you follow

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<v Speaker 1>them back, when you like their page back, they can

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<v Speaker 1>then send you a direct message. When they could send

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<v Speaker 1>you a direct message, that's when they could scan me

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<v Speaker 1>from money. Now, they could do this in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways. They could say that they're having a

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<v Speaker 1>charity for a hurricane and they're looking for donations, and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to start it by saying, I'm seeking out

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<v Speaker 1>my best fans, my most personal fans, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>care about me the most, and I can get personal

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<v Speaker 1>donations from these fans, and then they could figure out

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<v Speaker 1>ways for you to send the money. Or they could

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<v Speaker 1>just say I'm looking to do something that my management

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know about, so I need to do it in private.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that I could trust you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have three hundred thousand dollars on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to move a briefcase from point A to

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<v Speaker 1>point B. Can you pick it up for me? And

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll figure out a way for you to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the postage or something small, ridiculous that could be

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred bucks, and then there goes your hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, after all these scams, they slowly disappear into

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<v Speaker 1>the night. They're gone forever and moved on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next person. It's just wrong. It's criminal. Now, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I first started hearing about it is because people were

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<v Speaker 1>either screenshotting it because they figured out that it wasn't me,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was people that were telling me that they

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<v Speaker 1>had talked directly to me. Now, I don't direct message

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<v Speaker 1>fans I have. I consider myself very open to my fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and I consider myself someone that opens up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and meet and greets, and obviously this podcast. But come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit there and direct message people

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about personal things and ask them for donations

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<v Speaker 1>to a charity on through a direct message. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just gullible people that fall for this. It's smart people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people, it's family members that might think this. I

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<v Speaker 1>had my Midwest record label rep. Jennifer. She told me,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, can I ask you a question? You've been

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<v Speaker 1>messaging me on Instagram and why don't you just text me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Jennifer, I'm not direct messaging you on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>That's somebody else that's a scammer that's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>close to you. And they'll start with several conversations about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thank you for being a I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>never stopped listening to my music, Where do you live,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the next concert you're going to? I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. Then they build this up like it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>more personal. So who are these people? That's the question

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<v Speaker 1>I have? Who are the people that are scamming innocent

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<v Speaker 1>victims and playing on their insecurities and their vulnerability. Who

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<v Speaker 1>are these people? That's the question I have. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>question I asked right before I did this podcast. And

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<v Speaker 1>would you believe me if I told you that I

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<v Speaker 1>figured out exactly who they were? Yes? I did? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>follow me here. This is where it gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit weird. So I'm kind of pissed off that there's

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<v Speaker 1>people impersonating me and other artists, other celebrities and asking

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<v Speaker 1>for money from our innocent fans. So I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>find out who these people are. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do when I find out, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who are these people? So I begin

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<v Speaker 1>my crusade. I want to set my trap. I go

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter, I create a new account. I decide that

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<v Speaker 1>a young girl will be my best bait for my trap.

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<v Speaker 1>I go to Google Images and I actually typed in

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<v Speaker 1>cute girl, did a quick image search, grabbed a random picture,

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<v Speaker 1>made it my profile pick, gave her a name, completely

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<v Speaker 1>made up a name, and during this process, Twitter asked you,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your interest music check? What kind of music?

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<v Speaker 1>Country check? Do you want to follow the standard country list?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Twitter isd asking, Yeah, and so boom. It

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<v Speaker 1>instantly follows about one hundred people. It's everywhere, It's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. It follows me. It follows Garth Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>and Dirk s Bentley and Toby Keith and Darius Ruckerds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great way to kickstart your social media page. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole process of making this fake person took me

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty seconds. By the time I finished, I already

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<v Speaker 1>had a follower. I don't even know who. It was,

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<v Speaker 1>just a random bought follower. And then I got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more from certain people that had accounts where they

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<v Speaker 1>had some kind of software program written in where if

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<v Speaker 1>you follow X person, their account will automatically follow you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how people use social media on ethically. So

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<v Speaker 1>here I am about sixty seconds later, I have created

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<v Speaker 1>a fake person. I've created a fake profile. I already

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<v Speaker 1>have four or five followers. This is just weird how

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<v Speaker 1>easy this is. And for the record, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say for this podcast, don't do this at home. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not good stuff. And my brother Tyler, who's my manager,

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<v Speaker 1>was seriously against this, by the way. He said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. And then say on a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that you created a fake account. That's illegal, And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's illegal, and I looked it up

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, in Louisiana, this is illegal. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>currently in Louisiana today or when I created the account.

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<v Speaker 1>Point being, I know it's weird. I'm sorry it does

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<v Speaker 1>break the law in certain places, but my intentions are true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making this account is bait so that I could

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<v Speaker 1>find who these scammers are. I want to see how

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<v Speaker 1>easy it is for me to try to get scammed

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to be able to talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>process as a warning on this podcast. Asked right and

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<v Speaker 1>after just a few hours there it was the follower

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for Garth Brooks with no blue check.

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<v Speaker 1>I found my first scammer. I want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>second to talk about EEE Energy. That's my unofficial official sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also my drink. It's not a partnership with some

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<v Speaker 1>big corporation. It's me and my brothers and we made

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<v Speaker 1>this from scratch. I'm very proud of it. I'm biased,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's the best energy drink. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best drink that I've ever had. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>also because we created the recipe and made all these

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<v Speaker 1>adjustments until it was the exact taste that I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to see EEE Energy stocked in

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<v Speaker 1>your hometown, contact info at EEE energy dot com. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the drink that we have. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a complete clothing line my brothers and I. Right now

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<v Speaker 1>we have brand new Camo backpacks, tumblrs for drinks, baby onesies,

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<v Speaker 1>new women's tanks, pass lanyards for the fall, we have

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<v Speaker 1>new shirts, hoodies, flannels, blankets, beanies, you name it, we

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<v Speaker 1>probably have it with the EEE brand on it. You

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<v Speaker 1>can get all that stuff at grangersmith dot com. Boo

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here in Memphis, and tomorrow we start our Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan tour for the fall, and we start that in Roanoke, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna leave here, We'll drive all night to Roanoke,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we play Ronake, Indiana and Illinois this week

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<v Speaker 1>with Luke Bryan. And that is the real Luke Bryan,

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<v Speaker 1>the one with the blue check by his name on

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<v Speaker 1>the social media, unlike this Garth Brooks account that followed me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to tell you about that Garth Brooks account,

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<v Speaker 1>but first I want you to hear a story from

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy Chris Lane. Chris Lane's another country artist and

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<v Speaker 1>I've known him for a while, but we got really

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<v Speaker 1>close touring together on a Florida Georgia line tour last fall,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a month long tour in Canada, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got to be really good friends. Recently, we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing a show and he told me about this story

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<v Speaker 1>of a fan in a meet and greet line that

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<v Speaker 1>approached him and they figured out he was getting scammed.

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<v Speaker 1>I called Chris just now and he could tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Hey, old buddy, old pal, what's going on? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, I'm doing a little story on these what

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<v Speaker 1>do you call it, scammers? I'm doing a little story

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<v Speaker 1>in these scammers, on these scammers. And you told me

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<v Speaker 1>a story the other day that kind of blew me away.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that. Yeah. Yeah. So this this guy

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<v Speaker 1>walks up to me after a show. It was him

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<v Speaker 1>and his mom, and they basically had this look on

0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>their face as if I should know who they are.

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So the mom says, hey, make sure you return my

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<v Speaker 1>text when you get on your bus, and I was like, ah, yeah,

0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of played it off, and then she

0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:54.080
<v Speaker 1>said it again. I said you have my number. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, so make sure you text me that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy, her son, I guess in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Chris is mom. And at first, the way

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<v Speaker 1>he started out in the conversation was like, well, are

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<v Speaker 1>you not gonna say hello to mom? And I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I was confused in that moment. I thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>joking with me. And so, to make a long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps saying, Chris, it's me, it's your brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like Corey and he's like yeah, and I'm like

0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy because my chin brother's name is Corey. And

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<v Speaker 1>he like looked confused in that moment. Then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is are y'all playing a joke on me? Or what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on here? And then he was like, well, what

0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.040
<v Speaker 1>do you mean? He was like, it's me, it's your brother,

0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I'm like all right. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so confused, man, Like what's going on here?

0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, you text me every single day and

0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you tell me that you love me, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like I do. He's like yeah, I'm like, show me

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<v Speaker 1>the text message. So he pulls up his text message

0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's got three texts from people, ones from me

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, one's from somebody I have no clue

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<v Speaker 1>who it is, and then the one under it is

0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Dustin Lynch and I'm like, well, show me what it says.

0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.480
<v Speaker 1>So at the top it says it's him saying hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, and then it's like, look, looks is what

0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like a response for me? And it says, Hey,

0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just chilling on my bus. I'll see you after

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<v Speaker 1>the show Love You My Brother something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like all right, and I looked at the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the text and I'm just like, you know what,

0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.080
<v Speaker 1>this is right, And he's like no. I'm like, man,

0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not me. That's somebody who is pretending to be me.

0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And they look like they had seen a ghost, like

0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they were like, wait a minute, what this is not

0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you kind of thing. But I'm like, yeah, dude, people

0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.080
<v Speaker 1>do this every day with every country music artist or

0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 1>any artists in general. People are pretending to be somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not, and you're basically getting catfished. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>he's made you think or whoever's behind this has made

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<v Speaker 1>you dank that you've been talking to me this whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're not careful, are gonna ask you for money.

0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>They do it every single time, Like I get messages

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<v Speaker 1>like this every single day. He's like, well, I've already

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<v Speaker 1>given them a bunch of money and proceeded to say

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<v Speaker 1>that this has ruined his life and kind of broke down,

0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like left sending They're like, oh

0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, like this is guy to stop people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to believe that people actually believe that,

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're talking to whoever it is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting catfished by. But you know, how much money do

0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you think he gave him? Man, I don't know. It's

0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.439
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to say. He did say it ruined his

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<v Speaker 1>life though, so yeah, I don't know. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that meant. I was just a little taken back

0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.199
<v Speaker 1>by the situation. But yeah, I get messages every day,

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure I know you do, and as well

0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.440
<v Speaker 1>as a bunch of artists. I've seen cons of artists

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<v Speaker 1>posting up videos saying, hey, make sure you only look

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<v Speaker 1>for the blue check mark. That's how you know it's real. Like,

0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, people are asking people for money and they're

0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.080
<v Speaker 1>doing it for toure dates where they're acting like you

0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 1>get free tickets to a show if you purchase iTunes,

0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.880
<v Speaker 1>gift cards, just like the craziest things ever. I can't

0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.920
<v Speaker 1>believe people actually do that, but I guess they're making

0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>money off of it, and people are believing that it's

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<v Speaker 1>really the artist, or they're making up some calls for

0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.560
<v Speaker 1>some calls where it's like a, hey, I'm hitting you

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<v Speaker 1>up because I need a donation to my childhood Cancer

0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Foundation of some sorts, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a multi million dollar scam. Oh wow, yeah, that's

0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.879
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Yeah, well, dude, I hate that happens. I

0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>know you're on the golf course and you got to

0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.760
<v Speaker 1>hit some balls. But all right, man, well thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for letting me share the old story. You're welcome, dude.

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you soon, all right, brother be So that's

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Chris Lane and his story. It's probably like a lot

0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.719
<v Speaker 1>of other people's stories. And who are these people? Who?

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Who is this guy that's trying to scam Chris Lane's fans?

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's someone exactly like this Garth account that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at right now. So I dive into looking at

0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>this account. It looks exactly like Garth's account, except for

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it has about fifty followers and Garth has hundreds of thousands.

0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 1>The name is Garth Brooks, but if you look closely

0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.720
<v Speaker 1>on the handle, it's at Garth underscore Brooks underscore one.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all things that you probably wouldn't notice if

0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.959
<v Speaker 1>you weren't looking for it, or if you weren't paying attention,

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>or if you're just a fan that's excited to see

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<v Speaker 1>this Garth Brooks character following you once again, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>stress how important it is to know that it does

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<v Speaker 1>not have a blue check. Every celebrity is going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a blue check that means they are verified through management,

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<v Speaker 1>through the actual social media account checked and they cross checked,

0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and they figured out that this person is legit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the real person, it's the official account. It doesn't matter

0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.560
<v Speaker 1>if it says official account. It needs to have the

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<v Speaker 1>blue check to signify to you that it's official. Right.

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 1>So what I do is I follow back. Following back

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>two people following each other allows me to direct message.

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:18.119
<v Speaker 1>So here's where I'm going to bait my trap, my

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>little pretty face teenage girl profile. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's weird that I'm a fake account talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a fake account, but get past that. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm able to warn you now on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. So I shoot them a direct message

0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and I say, I know you'll never reply, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say I'm a huge fan smiley face,

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and I put huge in all caps, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>went ahead and added a little angel emoji at the end.

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I really have to sell this young girl thing, right,

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit nerve wracking because now I have

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<v Speaker 1>now sent This is the first time I've done this.

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I've sent my bait to what I think I think

0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 1>is this scam artist. I'm pretty sure this is a

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.719
<v Speaker 1>scam artist. And I wait for a reply and then

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it on the bottom of my screen. It

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 1>says messages. It has a little envelope and then it

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<v Speaker 1>turns blue with a little circle one. Oh my gosh,

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I got a message. I open it up. It's from

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<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks. It says good morning, and then it has

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<v Speaker 1>a sunshine and smiley face emoji and it says I

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<v Speaker 1>am here to reply, which already this is that's just

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>weird English. I'm here to reply who says that? And

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 1>of course I reply back, OMG, is it really you?

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Question Mark? Question Mark? The account writes back, yes, real

0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and legit. Hmm okay. So I say, this might be

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest day of my life. I would do anything

0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.719
<v Speaker 1>for you. I'm trying to say that to, you know,

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.240
<v Speaker 1>speed up the process of them asking for money. And

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:05.879
<v Speaker 1>guess what he says. He says, are you sure of

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 1>your words? And you sound like you can die for me?

0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.679
<v Speaker 1>So already by reading these words I'm thinking this sounds

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like a foreigner. This sounds like somebody that either English

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 1>is a is not their first language, or they're using

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:26.120
<v Speaker 1>an English translator. Continuing with the dialogue, I say, OMG,

0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I would absolutely die for you, mister Brooks. He says,

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>sounds so great to me. Baby. Which state are you?

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I say, Illinois? When do you come back here? He

0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.359
<v Speaker 1>says it's not on my tour list for now, but

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<v Speaker 1>will let you know anytime I will be coming there.

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>And then he goes on to say, so are you single, divorce, separated,

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>or married? And do you have kids? I say single,

0:22:55.600 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of course, right. You'll never believe what he writes next.

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<v Speaker 1>This is unbelievable to me. It says, get me iTunes

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.159
<v Speaker 1>card one hundred dollars, and there you have it. He

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:33.239
<v Speaker 1>took the bait hook line and sucker Josh Turner in

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<v Speaker 1>my head. Back here in Memphis, the show is now over,

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and I've come back to the bus and we're about

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to roll to Virginia. I hope you don't mind. Now

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the engine is on and I sleep by the engine,

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna be a little loud by this microphone.

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't mind. So back to Twitter. This

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks, this fake Garth Brooks has straight up asked

0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 1>me for an iTunes gift card for one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to keep him on the line. I

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>want to keep this thing going because I'm trying to

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>put myself in the shoes of a victim. So I

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>want him to tell me how to go about doing

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>this so that I could be well informed. So I say,

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:18.119
<v Speaker 1>how do I do that? Lol? He says, and I

0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>quote because I'm not misreading this. He says, just went

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to Walmart or any store and buy iTunes card. So

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously by now we know this is not an American

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>by the way that they're typing. I say, and then

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.240
<v Speaker 1>how do I get it to you, mister Brooks? He says,

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.639
<v Speaker 1>when you buy it and you open it and snap

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the front and send it to me. So me trying

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to keep him on the line, trying to keep things

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>going here, I say, Okay, I love you, I don't

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>have much money, but I want to get you this

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>gift card. Why do you need me to do this?

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Will I get to meet you? And how many do

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you want? He says, Well, Well, I needed to upgrade

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>my phone and I am in tour. I want you

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to be one of my biggest fans that I could

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 1>be able to visit when I come down there. Okay,

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>so there's the hook, right. He's promising fans you get

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to meet him and you could be guaranteed one of

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>his biggest fans if you buy him an iTunes card.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I say, OMG, if you promise to visit me, I

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.919
<v Speaker 1>can give you thousands of dollars of gift cards or

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 1>do you only need one hundred? I'm kind of joking here,

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>he says. If you could afford one thousand iTunes card,

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I will use it, but I have to be one

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred in to ten whenever that means, and I promise

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 1>you that I will visit you. Oh, he promised me.

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I say, I'm so excited buying them now. I also

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>just got tickets to your show in Indiana. I'll bring

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>them with me and give them to you by your bus. Okay,

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars. This is my way to see. Well,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 1>how's he going to handle fans telling him? How about

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>we meet in person? He says, my show in Indiana

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>is October fifth. I said, yes, I know. I'm so excited.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>He said, And here's the kicker. If you are true

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to your word, kindly get some now and send it

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to me and get the rest when you come to

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>my show. Then I will know you are serious. Man,

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>he's being harsh. Huh. He says, I need to upgrade

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>my phone now, So you want me to wait till

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>October fifth before upgrading it? The guilt trip, right, I say,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.479
<v Speaker 1>that's what I thought. I was just wondering why you

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>need my one hundred dollars. I loved you, garth, He says,

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I have told you that I need to upgrade my phone.

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>If you really love me, you won't be questioning me.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know. By this point, I'm pissed off because

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about he's talking to my profile pick I

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>told you as a young girl. So he's talking to

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a young American fangirl, the kind of people that put

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>me in business. Hell no, you can't talk like that

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to us. So I snap on him. I say, my

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>name is not the name I put on the profile.

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually a middle aged man. I report scam accounts

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like yours. You will not be caught today, but sometime soon,

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in your life, you will slip up far away

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>in whatever foreign country you live in. Karma will catch

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you and you will pay good luck. Oh and thanks

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:47.159
<v Speaker 1>for the conversation. I was able to screenshot silence. He

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't say a word. So several hours go by and

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I say, no more talking. You're a coward. I'm trying

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>to hook him. He says, what are you talking about?

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I say, what kind are you in right now? He

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>says Canada. That's a lie. I say, what's your nationality?

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't be a coward, open up to me. That's the

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>last I heard from that Garth. He then blocked me.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So I realized at this point, Okay, if I want

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to find out anything about these fake people, if I

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>want to know who they really are, I can't just

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>attack them. I can't just say you're gonna get caught.

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Karena's gonna catch you. That was just me being angry.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>So I decided to change my tactics and start over.

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>By the way, by this point, by the end of

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with Garth, I've had a lot of friend

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>request and they're all, guess what fake accounts? Let me

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>just name you. The request I got Dustin Lynch, Jason

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>al Dean, Danielle Bradberry, Toby Keith, Dirks Bentley, Dirks Bentley again,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Darius Rucker, Garth Brooks again, Keny Chesney, Thomas Rhet, John Party, Colsewindell,

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks again, Dirk s Bentley again, Martina Bride, Brad Paisley,

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Brad Paisley again, loret Alynn that's creative, Trace Akins, Garth Brooks,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Garth Brooks again and again, and Cole Swindell, all of

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>which I accepted, all of their friend request and all

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>of which we started a conversation. Let me tell you

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>more about that. Shutting Payne and Nowhere Town sign up,

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the Sundown, making bad summer time money. Damn. Okay, we're

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>rolling now, rolling to Virginia, and I haven't done a

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>podcast since we've been rolling, so I hope you don't mind.

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>This engine's going to be loud. I'm debating whether I

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>should finish this tomorrow, but we're gonna be busy tomorrow,

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm on a roll, and I've got this story,

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and I've got Twitter pulled up, and i've got these

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>fake conversations that I've had with people that I really

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>want to read to you. So if you don't mind.

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep going. But let me go to the

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>one that I finally had a breakthrough on. I had

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a couple in between that first Garth and then I

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>found Dirks Bentley at d I E r k ss

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Bentley with no eve before the y. So that's how

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>they're able to make the fake account. So I started

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>this one. I started the first message. I said, I'm

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a huge fan, and he says, how long have you

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>been my fan? I said a long time. I would

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>do anything for you. He says, thanks for your love

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>and support. Have you ever been to my concert? I

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>say yes? Is this the real you or management? He says,

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>thanks for your love and support? Have you ever been

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>to my concert? Yes? He just repeated the same thing.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think a lot of these guys

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>copy and paste. And then he says, what are your

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>dreams and determinations, which obviously he's using a translator, copying,

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>pasting into some kind of English translator, which it makes

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>no sense. So I just cut right to the chase.

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I take what I learned from Garth and I say, hey,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you want an iTunes gift card? He says, what do

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you mean? I say, I just love you. He says,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>why do you ask such a question? I say, because

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I love you and I would do anything for you

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just to notice me. He says, do you believe you

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>were able to achieve your dream? Okay, this and now

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just getting stupid. So I just cut to the point.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I say, what country are you in right now? He says,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>am in the state preparing for concert? I say, no,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>not your fake account, the real you, whoever you are.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Where are you Africa? He says, I will open up

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to you. What Okay, I got something now right This

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>might be the first truth I've seen from any of

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>these guys, and so I say, okay, open up right now.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>He says, Okay, promise me you won't report me. I

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>say yes, he says, I'm from Nigeria. I said, do

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you have many friends that do this on Twitter? Pretend

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to be famous singers? He says no. I said, do

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you live in Aboujah? I just googled it and that

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was the first city that came up. He says, no,

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I live in Lagos. I said, how much money have

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you made doing this? I won't report you, he said,

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God. I just started I said, how

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>do you decide to try it? He says, just an idea.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm very creative. By the way, that's a lie. I

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>know he's lying. I said, I don't believe you. Be honest,

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Many many people do this, he said, I swear to

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Almighty God, I don't have friends that do this. I

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>just opened up to you. I said, Okay, how old

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>are you? He said twenty? I said, do you have

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a real Twitter account? I want to see the real you?

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He says, no, I only have a Facebook. I say,

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>what's your name? He said, let me send you a

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>friend request on Facebook. I say, I don't have a Facebook.

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>What's your real name? He said, Are you try trying

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to track me? I'm scared. I said, I'm not trying

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to track you. Can you just set a pick of yourself.

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to see the real you. You don't have

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to tell me your name, he said, send me yours first.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, I wonder if you have a boss that

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>won't let you. He said, no, I'm alone here. I

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>stay alone. I'm just scared. I said, no, one can

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>trace a selfie from your phone. Send a peace sign

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>so I know it's you. He said, it's late here.

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, yes, I know it's twelve twenty eight. I

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>was watching his time. He said, yes, you're right, and

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>guess what he did. He sent me a selfie and

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>so there I get the first look at what these

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>these thieves look like. And it's a young man about

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty African American. Obviously. He has a white shirt button

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>up with a dragon on the front, and he's given

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>me kind of a melancholy face and a peace sign,

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just like I asked him. I said, thank you. You

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>have a real name. He says, yes, Raphael, that's my

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>real name. I said, yes, I believe you. I say,

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>are jobs hard to find in Nigeria? He says, yes,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>very hard to find for the youth. People are suffering here.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I say, and by the way, he still thinks I'm

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>a girl. I say, I'm a man. I made a

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>fake account, just like you. He said, where are you from?

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>I say, Texas, USA? He said, okay, that's good, Sirs,

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>so nice to meet you. Say you take care of yourself.

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Be careful on Twitter. Most people aren't who they say

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>they are. He says, I know I'm being careful, sir.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>May I ask why you did create your fake account? Sir,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I say to find guys like you and ask them

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to please not take money from innocent girls. It hurts

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>people's lives. He says, Oh, okay, that's good, sir. I'll

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>delete this fake account soon, Sir. I say, find ways

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 1>to help people, not hurt them. I know you can,

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, Okay, I will. He still hasn't deleted that account.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>That was several days ago. He still hasn't deleted it.

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I checked just for the record, knowing that I was

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>going to do this podcast about this subject, because I

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's important for if you're listening to this podcast,

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to spread the words, spread the message. Tell your friends,

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>say make sure your look for that blue check. You're

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>not talking to celebrities, right because this is a multi

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>million dollar scam. I looked it up. It's called the

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>four to nineteen scam. Four nineteen that was named after

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a Nigerian law. It's been around a long time. And

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>all of these, all of these people, at least all

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the all the ones that I talked to are from Nigeria,

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>all about twenty years old. And I started going right

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to it. I started some of these friend requests. We

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>would have one conversation, one back and forth, and I

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>would immediately say what part of Nigeria are you from? Lagos?

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>There's several other towns, but they're all in Nigeria. Sometimes

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>they would block me right away, and sometimes they would

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>open up. Sometimes they would call me a fool. Sometimes

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they would speak out in their own language and yell

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>at me and say things like settle down, crazy woman,

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and their language. I looked at that. I looked it up.

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Raphael wasn't the only guy that sent me a picture

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I actually got. I got several people to send me

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>pictures of them. It's crazy, I know, but I was

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>so curious about their life. And a lot of these

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>guys are saying that they just graduated college or they're

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.760
<v Speaker 1>still in college, and when you graduate, there's no jobs

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria, so they they have no money, They have

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>no way to pay for their school. They just they

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>just got out of and everybody else is doing this

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>four nineteen scam. And to me, what they're probably thinking

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is America is so far away, Western Europe is so

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>far away, and everyone has money, right, they're doing great.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>So if I get one hundred dollars here, fifty dollars here,

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>or two hundred dollars here from these people. It helps

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>me and it's nothing off them. I guarantee you that's

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that's their mindset. But I I talked to a few

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>really nice people that opened up and that that got nice.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But then there's a deeper, darker side to this. I

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>think there's a lot more that I don't know. And

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>that's when my brother Tyler's saying, hey, you need to

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>stop going down this rabbit hole. You're gonna find something

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to see. So to date, so far

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>since I started this, and by the way, I started

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>this three days ago knowing that I was gonna do

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>this podcast in Memphis today. Three days ago from when

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I started did this fake account, and I started hunting

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>these scammers. I've talked to twenty two people. Twenty two people.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>They're all from Nigeria. They're all in their mid to

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>lower twenties. Some of them are nice. Some of them

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me to go to hell and block me. Here's

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a funny one. This is from another Dirk Spentley. It said, hello,

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>thanks for the likes of my page and all the

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 1>love that you've shown me. I hope you never stopped

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>listening to my music, and I say you're welcome. How

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>long you been doing four nineteen and then block I'm deleted.

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's all it takes. And there's a lot of

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.280
<v Speaker 1>different tactics. There's a lot of ways that I handled

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>these twenty two people. But the one question I still

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>have that no one has answered is do these people

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Are they really doing it alone as they're all saying

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>they are and they don't know about each other, which

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>has to be a lie. Or is there some kind

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>of boss that's running this thing? Are there mob bosses?

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Is this some big underground operation? Is this some room

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of computers and one leader walking around

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and forcing these people to do this? And what a

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>scary thought. It's scary even talking about it on this podcast.

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>But is that true. Here's a conversation I had with

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a Dustin Lynch impersonator and after several back and forth,

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and this person admitted that they were a scammer, and

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I admitted that I wasn't the girl on my page.

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>And on day two person said, can you please send

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>me your phone number? I said no, I prefer to

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>talk here. And then the Dustin Lynch said, nothing much

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to say to you unless you get this package. If

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not ready, to pay then buy. And what's funny

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is this person copied and pasted the wrong reply to

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the wrong person. That wasn't even to me, that was

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to some other poor soul that they're talking to. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, are you messaging the wrong person? And they

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<v Speaker 1>said yes, I'm sorry. Can you send me your number

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<v Speaker 1>so we could really talk? And I said no, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to talk here and they said I could not

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<v Speaker 1>talk here any longer. I'm being watched. Sorry, goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end. The hell does that mean? I'm being watched?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with these people? To another person? This

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<v Speaker 1>was Toby Keith. I said, how long have you been

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<v Speaker 1>doing four nineteen? He said, we have no choice, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, our job's hard to find. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a boss not letting you talk? He said I couldnot

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<v Speaker 1>speak about this oga ou Ean boys at ye whatever

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the heck that means, and then he blocked me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>some weird stuff. And honestly, I'm gonna be happy to

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<v Speaker 1>delete this fake account and stop these conversations with Nigerians.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta say I have to. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>truthful in this podcast without saying that I feel sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for him. I do. I do I wake up? You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I yesterday before I came on this tour, I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>by the grocery store and I went in and I

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<v Speaker 1>got groceries for the tour. Then I was checking out

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled out my credit card and swiped it

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<v Speaker 1>and got my bags and got back on my truck

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<v Speaker 1>and went and met the buses. And it just occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me that, you know, Americans, the easy, simple things,

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<v Speaker 1>we just get it. It's no big deal, go get groceries,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like that in Nigeria. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for him. Is what they're doing right? Hell no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wrong. That's that's why I'm trying to bring awareness

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But that doesn't change the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel sorry for him. I do know. I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no empathy for their lives. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going through. Their own government embezzels money from them,

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Their own government is corrupt, their own government is part

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<v Speaker 1>of four nineteen. I mean, there's people that do this

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<v Speaker 1>same scam in the government at Nigeria. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw my mom the other day and as I was leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, hey, thanks for finally adding me as a

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<v Speaker 1>friend on Facebook. Yeah, I said, Mom, I didn't add

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<v Speaker 1>you as a friend on Facebook. I have an artist page,

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<v Speaker 1>a fan page. I can't add anybody. She said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who added me? And I said a Nigerian added you, Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>She said what I said. Listen to my podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>five and I'll tell you inside out of the Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Scats last year Winny capinside nothing news is writ into you,

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<v Speaker 1>Julie or you can do to keep her around until

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<v Speaker 1>the moon goes down in her back at your house.

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<v Speaker 1>One things to another, you love at each other when

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<v Speaker 1>look can you never loved back? It happens like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening. I got a lot of tourdys and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you come see us when we're close to

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<v Speaker 1>you at cratorsmith dot com backslash tour. And remember Mom

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<v Speaker 1>always looked for that blue check.