WEBVTT - Chuck and Josh Make It Through Female Puberty

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to you Stuff you should know from house Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerry's over there

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<v Speaker 1>to oversee this one in particular. Yeah, and uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is stuffy should know. Yeah, I'm glad Jerry's here for

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<v Speaker 1>this one because if it was guest producer Noel, it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be like, I don't know. Yeah, this is on

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<v Speaker 1>female puberty. Jerry went through female puberty. No did not.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not, although Noel has a daughter, so he

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<v Speaker 1>might listen to this. So this one's for Nola exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and for all you families out there, all you kids,

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<v Speaker 1>all your parents. Just like with the male puberty episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we hope that this serves as a springboard to conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because from what I found in research, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you did as well, that one of the big big

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<v Speaker 1>things that you need to try to maintain, which is

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<v Speaker 1>exceedingly difficult, is open lines of communication with your pubescent daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're the pubescent kid turning into a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to try to share your feelings and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to your rents if at all possible. Yeah, that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, this is very similar to male puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>I found not completely but well, I mean obviously physiologically

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<v Speaker 1>it's different, but going through a lot of the same stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um, and and you're right, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>that point as a parent where you and I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this from friends where they finally look at their teenage

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<v Speaker 1>daughter who was you were once their hero and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're just a big lam Oh you're a zero, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not funny, you're not cool. Uh And why should I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to you about anything, because you're also a big

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<v Speaker 1>fat hypocrite, right exactly. Just get ready, folks, Yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to you. And then well yeah, true, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>then after the age of thirteen, you're gonna be friends

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<v Speaker 1>again when they're like in their mid twenties, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna think you're great again after the age of thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the way it works at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Between thirteen and like three, oh yeah, they're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>think you're super lame. That's called the waste land years.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they think you're cool again. Yeah, well I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to give me about this. Then you feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad about you treated them from thirteen twenty you realize, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're not so bad after all. That. So female

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<v Speaker 1>puberty and um, the girls, if you're listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>and you are going through puberty, you're about to go

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<v Speaker 1>through puberty. Um, let us just be the the just

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that you turn to to find out more

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<v Speaker 1>about talk to people. Like I said, there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>ton a ton of stuff on the internet that has

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<v Speaker 1>some really great advice suggestions just basically type female puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>And anything that looks like it was compiled by a

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<v Speaker 1>doctor or reviewed by a doctor, it's probably fairly trustworthy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, here's a piece of advice. Uh, go to

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<v Speaker 1>iTunes and subscribe to stuff mom never told you. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good that's a good advice from our colleagues,

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Kristen, because it is great and especially at that age,

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<v Speaker 1>they will help you through a whole host of issues

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<v Speaker 1>hormonal and emotional and physical and empower you. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great show. And they even have covered this probably

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<v Speaker 1>better than we will. But at least let us get

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<v Speaker 1>you going in the right direction, you know, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tittering nervously over here. I think you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm strangely calmer with this one than I was

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<v Speaker 1>with the male puberty one. I don't understand why. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you since uh, since that you were

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<v Speaker 1>more nervous than the other one. So it's great, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is because I got to come to

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<v Speaker 1>this one from the same research perspective, Like I'm researching.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an expert, I'm an outsider researching it. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I came up with with male pubers, like

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<v Speaker 1>I went through there. So I think it was just

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<v Speaker 1>more personal. Maybe I hear you. Okay, so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>this started, right, okay, Chuck. Yes, Let's say you're a

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<v Speaker 1>little girl, okay, run about age eight, loving it. Things

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<v Speaker 1>are great and long. Maybe you got like, uh, your

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<v Speaker 1>nie skinned last week and that's bumming you out still,

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<v Speaker 1>But for the most part, you're pretty happy with everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, things just start to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little weird. You can't quite put your finger

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<v Speaker 1>on it. But what just happened was the g p

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<v Speaker 1>R fifty four gene. Since that you have reached the

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<v Speaker 1>minimum amount of fat in your body. Lepton is what

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<v Speaker 1>it monitors, and it caused the hypothalmus, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>cute little playing in your brain to distribute a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just been holding in reserve basically since you

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<v Speaker 1>were born, called ganadotropin releasing hormon or g n r H.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that game mouse Trap, which no one

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<v Speaker 1>on the history of Earth ever actually finished before they

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<v Speaker 1>just set it off and made the whole thing go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know there was a game attached to it, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much, that's pretty much what it evolves too. This

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<v Speaker 1>is basically like mouse Trap for your body. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>that um, that fat that you were talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>the lefton that resides there, that is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a newer finding. Uh. Previously, uh, they thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a critical weight theory of puberty basically just once

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<v Speaker 1>you reach a certain mass. But now they're thinking it

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<v Speaker 1>actually has to do with the fat itself. So that's why, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a little girl that's overweight, you might go

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<v Speaker 1>through puberty a little bit earlier. Yeah, they think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's one reason why early onset puberty becoming more common,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, which we'll talk about also later, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not the same thing as precocious puberty. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an actual medical condition that you should see a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>about but between precocious puberty and hey, I'm just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on the early side, there's a very fuzzy

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<v Speaker 1>period now where there did not used to be. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not fully inderstood. No, they're still figuring it out.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't feel bad if you don't feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything figured out either right now? Okay? Agreed? So um,

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<v Speaker 1>the g n r H hormone, the ganeto ganado trope

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<v Speaker 1>and releasing hormone, comes out of your hypothalamus and it

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<v Speaker 1>slides its way down to your pituitary gland and it

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<v Speaker 1>sets off in your pituitary gland the release of two

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<v Speaker 1>really really important hormones that are going to be important

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your I guess productive life. Reproductive life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>LH the lutenizing hormone and f s H the follicle

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<v Speaker 1>stimulating hormone. And so these things start coursing through the body,

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<v Speaker 1>entering your bloodstream. And what just happened to you, my

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<v Speaker 1>young friend, is the you hit puberty. Yeah, that that

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<v Speaker 1>just started. And at this point you could be somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>around age eight, nine ten. This is the first stage

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<v Speaker 1>of puberty. Basically anywhere between ages eight and eleven. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's considered in the normal range. But like Chuck said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you can go earlier, you can go later. Slapping

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<v Speaker 1>the term normal onto that is a really like touchy thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and for good reason, because you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very self conscious time in people's lives. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you're outside of the norm on top of this

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<v Speaker 1>process of being abnormal or feeling abnormals, that's rough. But

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<v Speaker 1>say on average that you're between eight and eleven when

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<v Speaker 1>this first happens. Yeah, there was sent me that New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times article is really good about the onset of

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<v Speaker 1>female puberty and um since there was a landmark study

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty from the UK where they basically said

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<v Speaker 1>the average ages eleven, and that was always sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the common thinking. But there was a woman in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties at the time, she was a physicians associate

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<v Speaker 1>at Duke named Marcia Herman Giddons, and she said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>noticing a lot of eight and nine year old girls

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<v Speaker 1>in my clinic that are like getting pubic hare, that

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<v Speaker 1>are have their breast or butting, Like what's going on here? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And she started writing about that, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>endochronologists were saying no, no, no, no, no, that's not right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And for a couple of uh, about twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a big debate about it until finally, in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and ten, three major institutions Cincinnati Children's Hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>Kaiser Permanente of Northern California, and Mount Sinai School of

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<v Speaker 1>Medicine and New York UH published a study in Pediatric

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<v Speaker 1>saying that by age seven of white girls, of black girls,

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<v Speaker 1>of Hispanic girls, and two percent of Asian girls, we're

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<v Speaker 1>developing breasts, uh seven seven And that's that's budding breast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily puberty. But no, but that's that was

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<v Speaker 1>the marker for the onset of puberty. So basically they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying and now that they don't know quite why this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, but they do think that, um, if you're overweight,

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<v Speaker 1>that that can set it off, like we said, and

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting that family stress they think can kick off

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<v Speaker 1>puberty earlier. H. They've done studies where they found if

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<v Speaker 1>you're from a broken home or if you were without

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<v Speaker 1>your biological father, you were more than twice as likely

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<v Speaker 1>to go into puberty early. The same with childhood depression

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, or if your mother is suffering from depression,

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<v Speaker 1>it might kick that off. So I think just all

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<v Speaker 1>these family stresses can can just kick puberty in at

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<v Speaker 1>an earlier age. That's one of the theories at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that makes sense too, because the what seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the increase seemingly prevalent attitude toward what constitutes the

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<v Speaker 1>onset of puberty is that once once you're getantotropin hormone

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<v Speaker 1>is released, then you're in puberty. Everything else is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of symptomatic or markers of puberty. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you are undergoing a lot of stress, well that can

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<v Speaker 1>lead to hormonal release, right. Well. Yeah, Plus, the last

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<v Speaker 1>little point they make in this article was that makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense in an evolutionary sense as far as the theory goes.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that if you have a stressful childhood, you're

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<v Speaker 1>inclined to earlier reproduction so you can survive bodies, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we better get this underway. Yeah, Like, my family is stressed,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm gonna survive, so I need

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<v Speaker 1>to have a baby at like a ten. That is

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore natural selection thinking, right, Yeah, pretty interesting, I think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the the pubescent markers, right, the milestones that you

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<v Speaker 1>go through typically go hormone release, breastbuds, the pubic hare right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then those are the three things that that happened

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<v Speaker 1>in that order. Typically it can happen out of order.

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<v Speaker 1>But with with that hormone release, the first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>starts it out, which is first stage of puberty. What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening is um, your the uterus, the womb right,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes the uterus, the cervix, the fallopian tubes, ovaries,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff are starting to develop. Um, you were born.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep saying you, I'm not talking to you, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Well I was. I'm the little girl in this experiment, right, girls, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you you are. I'll just stay the little girl

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<v Speaker 1>that you have your skin knee I forgotten. Um you have.

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<v Speaker 1>You were born with about two million to five million

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<v Speaker 1>UM undeveloped eggs, which are called follicles. And remember one

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<v Speaker 1>of those hormones that gets released as follicle stimulating hormones.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, when your follicle hormones stimulating, When your follicle

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<v Speaker 1>stimulating hormones get at least, it goes down to your

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<v Speaker 1>ovaries and all of a sudden, you start to your

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<v Speaker 1>engine starts revving as far as your reproductive ability goes

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<v Speaker 1>that your body and you know, let's get you ready

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<v Speaker 1>to have a kid at some point, right, at some point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this is a year's long process. But the point

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<v Speaker 1>is the first part of the whole thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>the cervix, the the ovaries, the Filippian tubes, the uterus

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<v Speaker 1>um all start to change internally and grow and develop. Sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so typically in the past, the beginning of puberty is

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<v Speaker 1>said to start with monarchy, which is weird because that

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<v Speaker 1>that word, that term, it has a long history with stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know, Yeah, because I remember on the Totem

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<v Speaker 1>Poles episode, it was that with the first appearance of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so because they would often build monarchy totems

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<v Speaker 1>as a celebratory uh thing when a when a young

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<v Speaker 1>girl has her first period, that's called the monarchy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So typically that was always thought of as the first

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<v Speaker 1>sign of puberty or the first step. But as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time monarchy comes on, you have already been

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<v Speaker 1>undergoing puberty inside your body for a little while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of stupid to mark the onset of puberty

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<v Speaker 1>with monarchy, because monarchy actually represents the end of your

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<v Speaker 1>first reproductive cycle, even though you probably wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to conceive in that first attempt at it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>your body like kind of going through a few dry runs.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a that doesn't make any sense to say, well,

0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you had your first period, so now you're in puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been in puberty for probably a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>by then. That's uh, And that monarchy can very wildly. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done studies where they founded age difference of about

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<v Speaker 1>three and a half years, or it could be as

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<v Speaker 1>great as three and a half years, um, and it

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<v Speaker 1>all depends on you know, how fast your body is maturing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they found a developmental difference in of up to three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half years and girls the same age, So

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<v Speaker 1>some girls were three and a half years further along

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<v Speaker 1>in puberty even though they were ten years old, you know. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So they figured out that hormones, probably the release of

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<v Speaker 1>hormones mark the onset of puberty. Um. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>other things that that comes along, like monarchy, can't it's

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<v Speaker 1>you notice it, right, It's very noticeable the thing that happens. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why for so long they used to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now everybody knows, so we know you're in puberty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it doesn't make any sense. As we've said,

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing that happens fairly early on and girls in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>is a growth spurt, but like a cartoon growth spurt,

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<v Speaker 1>like Roger rabbit growth spurt, because the hands and the

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<v Speaker 1>feet grow first. Yeah, well, they can grow about three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half inches in a single year, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but not your hands and feet. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're your height, but the hands and feet are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna grow such that, um. You you might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little clumsy because you haven't gotten used to these big

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<v Speaker 1>banana boats at the end of your legs, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>fear not, because eventually the rest of your body is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna grow, um, in sync with it. What's weird is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>girls grow through the growth spurts before boys. To do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember being like a boy and like the girls

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden in your class from like fifth

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<v Speaker 1>grade to sixth grade, where it's like, what what happened here?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? The giants? Exactly? Yeah? Year, Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was never like at the head of

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<v Speaker 1>my growth chart, so I was definitely like staring up

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<v Speaker 1>at girls wondering why they were taller than me. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you mad? Why do I have special feelings about

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<v Speaker 1>this tall girl all of a sudden? Yeah, and why

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<v Speaker 1>are you so angry at me? Um? And we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you boys here as well, because I can

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<v Speaker 1>definitely dole out some advice on how to treat your classmates.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be sprinkling that in here and there, your

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Chuck and Mr Clark. That's right. So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have your big hands and your big feet. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be tripping, you're gonna be dropping things, but everything. Don't worry,

0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna even out. Your body's gonna catch up. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though you may be taller than some of the

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<v Speaker 1>boys in your class, um, they're gonna catch up to Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just a little bit ahead of the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to feel bad about. But you should also not

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad about this break right now. And then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come back and talk about more of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a chuck. We've kind of touched on it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But let's let's talk about the actual stages

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<v Speaker 1>of puberty. Okay, let's so we've we've mentioned Stage one

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<v Speaker 1>is when the hormones start to get released from the

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<v Speaker 1>pituitary gland, the follicle stimulating hormone, lutenizing hormone, and these

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<v Speaker 1>along with estrogen for the rest of your reproductive life,

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<v Speaker 1>which goes from the time of your first period until

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<v Speaker 1>um menopause. Right, those three hormones are gonna be really

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<v Speaker 1>really important, and they interact with one another, and UM

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<v Speaker 1>one triggers one and and suppresses the other UM and

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<v Speaker 1>all of them cause those follicles, remember those tiny undeveloped

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<v Speaker 1>eggs that you're born with, about two million, with to

0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.399
<v Speaker 1>develop into eggs about once a month, right, this is

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<v Speaker 1>your menstrual cycle, that's right. So by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>enter puberty, the two million follicles, those two million eggs

0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:31.399
<v Speaker 1>actually have dwindled down to about four hundred thousand. And

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<v Speaker 1>every time you menstright, starting with that first time, about

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand of those follicles get stimulated and start to

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<v Speaker 1>turn into eggs. But one of them is just like

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<v Speaker 1>the runaway stand out, the head of the class, the

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<v Speaker 1>A plus student, and that one will develop into what's

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<v Speaker 1>called an ovum, which is a matured, unfertilized egg. And

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<v Speaker 1>as your as your estrogen levels grow throughout the month

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<v Speaker 1>and increase and increase they hit this this peak level,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it peaks, it triggers the sudden release of

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<v Speaker 1>lutenizing hormone, and that lutenizing hormone causes that egg to

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<v Speaker 1>pop out of your follicle and you know, the fallopian

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<v Speaker 1>tube and travel down to your uterus, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>called ovulation. This is probably not gonna happen on the

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<v Speaker 1>first period monarchy. Um, but I mean, it's entirely possible.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the when you have monarchy. It's um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's again. It's usually like a dry run, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to your body is figuring it out. Uh. Second stage?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we there yet? I think so? Okay, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you should ask me. I'm the little girl here are

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready to move on to the second stage? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Clark? Okay, uh oh man, weird is getting kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weird. The second stage of puberty. Um. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to vary in age, but we'll go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>say like eleven or twelve years old, Um, this is

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<v Speaker 1>when your breasts are gonna begin to grow, or as

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<v Speaker 1>they say and butting, is when the ariola is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>darken and rise some and you're gonna get some of

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<v Speaker 1>that breast tissue. And you you know, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>at that point that your parents say, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's time to go to the store and introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to something called the brazier or which no one

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.719
<v Speaker 1>calls it anymore, it's called a little bra. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting fitted for that thing I've heard is

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of fun because it's like some big

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<v Speaker 1>mystery and it's hard to get it just right. But

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully mom and dad will will take you in or

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<v Speaker 1>a cool older sister. Yeah, and hopefully anyan dad's can

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<v Speaker 1>be involved in this stuff too. But since mom has

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<v Speaker 1>the experience, they can probably lend a little more like insight,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say. Right, and speaking of your mom, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a wish to know probably what your breaths

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<v Speaker 1>are going to grow too in size. That sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, like an elementary school joke, speaking of your mom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you your your mom's breast size is probably a decent

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<v Speaker 1>indicator of what yours is gonna grow too. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>made up of your mom and your dad, and your

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 1>dad just he just throws the whole thing off. So really, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>the best the best resources to look at your maternal

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and paternal grandmothers and see what their breast sides look like. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't freak out if there's are around their waist

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.919
<v Speaker 1>because breast fall over the years and you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to sweat that just yet. Maybe you could look at

0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>pictures of them when they were younger, finally hit on

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<v Speaker 1>that might be horrifying. The third stage, Oh wait, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Second stage, you're gonna start getting some of that pubic hare, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when the growth spurt's going to appear as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And your bones are growing really really fast. Um, but

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not as dense as they would be normally. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not calcified fully, so they can break pretty easy. So

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be careful here. Yeah, that's why you

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of little girls little boys walk around

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<v Speaker 1>arm casts. Although I have never broken a bone. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you better knock on wood. I'm knocking on wood.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still have that knock on wood? President? I

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<v Speaker 1>got you, I sure do, nice. I do it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time at home. Uh. Third stage pubic care is

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to grow. The breasts are going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to grow. Hair actually shows up all over the place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a little boys. All of a sudden, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like in the armpits. It's around your growing areas

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<v Speaker 1>like a jungle. Yeah, just growing all over the place. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Your vagina is gonna grow in size. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>usually about the age of twelve to thirteen. And by

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<v Speaker 1>this time, about seventy of girls, um that have hit

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>stage three have already had monarchy. That's right. And you

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<v Speaker 1>might say we should probably pause here for a second, chuck.

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>If if you are a girl listening to this, there

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 1>might be a burning question like what is going on? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the teleological reason for all of this? Right? Sure,

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're saying. Um, what has happened is your

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>body has sensed that you you have enough fat to

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<v Speaker 1>sustain a child, a fetus, and your body is undergoing

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<v Speaker 1>the necessary changes to allow you to conceive a child

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<v Speaker 1>and then carry it to full term. That's what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with your body right now, That's right. Another thing that's

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen is you're gonna start sweating and becoming a

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>stinky little monster. Uh. And that's probably when you're gonna say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>while we're at the store getting my first bra, how

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<v Speaker 1>about a stick of Deo durant, right, anti perse print.

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Those days of chasing fireflies all night and not taking

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<v Speaker 1>a bath for eight days with no repercussions, right, and

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>not smelling at all, smelling like a daisy the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Those days are gone for the rest of your life.

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And parents, be you know, sensitive to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't make fun of your kids. Tell them there're stinky

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>monsters like I just did. Well, Yeah, you're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>other people's kids. Yeah, be nicer about it, because some

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>kids might laugh and think it's funny. Some kids might

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>be very sensitive to that thing. Just the tad you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is normal. It's normal stage four around the age

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<v Speaker 1>of thirteen or fourteen. Um. The height that you're growing

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>is gonna slow down a little bit. You're not gonna

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>be growing as tall. Boys are gonna start catching up

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<v Speaker 1>to you in height and your fat levels. Your body

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>fat is gonna basically reach your adult level body fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in just a couple of years, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>gone from somewhere in the neighborhood of like eight percent

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>body fat to twenty six percent body fat. Uh. And

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you do not want to lose this weight. This is

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this is um normal weight gain. That's right, that your

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:46.320
<v Speaker 1>body needs for to be in reproductive health. That's right,

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be Uh. If you've had your first period,

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that means you've had your second and third. By this point,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>your body is probably trying to work out some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a regular rhythm, although for the first little while

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be fairly irregular. Oh yeah, your cycle

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>for many times, and supposedly girls who go through monarchy

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>after thirteen tend to have very irregular periods up until

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen yea, and even beyond that, even as an adult,

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 1>you can go out of rhythm for all sorts of

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>different things, including like birth control. Yeah. Absolutely uh. And

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>then stage five is when you are have fully matured

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>UM fourteen to seventeen all the way up to like

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen years old. You are through the stages of puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably as tall as you're gonna get. Your breasts

0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you're probably as big as they're gonna get without any

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of surgical help, and um, your pubic hare is

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>hopefully as fully developed as it's gonna get. And then finally,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>your your skeleton and your muscles and your cardiovascular system,

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>everything you're you're basically a young woman. You can vote,

0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you can't drink, and you can't rent a car. Right,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where you're at in life pretty much. So. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the the again, one of the long time

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 1>markers of um pubescence in girls has been breast development,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>starting with breast buds, right, And what's going on there

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>is your um. Again, your body's developing so that it

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>can support a kid internally. And UM, one of the

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>things that you will have to do once you have

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.679
<v Speaker 1>a kid, or be able to do is the nurse. Right,

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So your breast development is changing. There's more tissue, they're

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they're getting bigger, and the one of the reasons they're

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>getting bigger is because there's they're actually structurally changing, so

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you're forming milk ducks in there and new layers of

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>fatty tissue so that you can nurse. It's pretty cool.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>And actually I read a really really interesting article on

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<v Speaker 1>UM mother's milk and the Stranger the other day. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing stuff. Get this, dude. So apparently mother's milk

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>can change day to day and produce new antibodies based

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>on what the infant needs. So, like, if the infant

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is battling like a little bit of a bug. The

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>mom's body can produce anybodies that are transferred through the milk.

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>They're like, how does the mom know this? And they

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>have figured out that the baby saliva communicates what what

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what anybody's here she needs through the nipple, and then

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the mother's body analyzes that stuff and goes, oh, we

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>need these humanibodies, produces it and gives it to the

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>kid in the form of milk. This is what you

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>will be able to do in just a few years. Girls,

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty phenomenal stuff, that's right. Uh. So, as your

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 1>breast are getting larger, uh, they may be sore, they

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>may be itchy. Uh. If you have rapid growth, they

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>may have some stretch marks. Don't need to worry about

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 1>any of this stuff. They may be uh not the

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>same size. One breast might grow quicker than the other.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>That's okay too. And Chuck, like you said, also, depending

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>on your race, um, you may develop breastbuds earlier later again,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>totally normal. That's right, all right, So Chuck, the breasts

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>are developed, the hormones are raging, um so, and the

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>womb is developing, right. And as the womb is developing

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's learning to ovulate. Right. Um. The menstrual cycle, Guys,

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you and I tend to think of it as basically

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this um one week thing that happens, right, it's actually

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a usually a between a twenty and thirty day process.

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just the the part where you have

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>your mensies, which is the part where you're shedding the

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>endometrium from inside the uterus, the lining. It's this whole

0:27:57.000 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>process of the follicles becoming stimulated, producing an ovum, the

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 1>ovum traveling down the fallopian tube to the uterus hanging

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>out there waiting to see whether it gets fertilized or not,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and um. And then when the egg doesn't get fertilized,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>that endometrium, the lining of the uterus, which has become

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>rich with like these blood vessels as part of the

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>menstrual process, gets shed. Right. But before it gets shed,

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that will suddenly appear about six

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>months prior to monarchy is what's called a white vaginal discharge.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That's right, it is completely normal and it is uh

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the precursor to your first period. You don't need to

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>stress out about it if you find that, uh, you know,

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you're in your room and you're getting ready for bed,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and you you see something you haven't seen before in

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>your underwear, then don't freak out. It's all very normal.

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 1>It actually means that you have a very healthy uh uterus.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Uh. There are all kinds of charge actually,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and I did not know that there are all kinds

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of discharge. Are you referring to that one UM article

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>we said, there's there's a great article on our podcast

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>page that has photos of different types of discharge that

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that says, this is normal. This is normal. See a doctor,

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this is normal, you know. Yeah, the normal types UM

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>light yellow discharge if you haven't started your period yet,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the white, thick discharge is common at the beginning and

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>end of the cycle. UM should not itch. If there

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is an itch going on, then you could have a

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>yeast infection, right, which is basically just a bloom of

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>candid to which can be brought on by things like

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 1>taking antibiotics or something like that. The discharge can be

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>clear and stretchy. That means you are ovulating. That is

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 1>fertile mucus, right, That's the that's the good stuff. That's

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that let's sperm get in there and really

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>travel to the ovum. That's right, clear and watery. That

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is not a problem either. That can occur at all

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>times of the cycle. Uh. It can be dark yellow

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>or green. Uh, and that could be a problem, and

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that means there could be an infection, especially like I said,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>if it's itchy, or if it's clumpy, or if it

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>has a bad odor, then that may be something you

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>need to get checked out. But for the most part

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, it's called cervical mucus, and you're going

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to be discharging it for basically the rest of your life,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>just a it's just a fact of life. And again

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it means that you have a nice, healthy uterus and

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>everything's all well with it, unless again there's some warning

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>signs to it, and if there are discussing a doctor,

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>get fixed up. You'll be fine. Yeah. And the last

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>one I think we should mention is brown because that

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>can probably be pretty stressful if you've never seen that

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>before as a young girl. And that's after your period,

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and that's all that is is your body just cleaning

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>things out. And also again completely normal because blood when

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it's old looks brown, right, So that's vaginal discharge. That's

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>different from your actual mensies right. So with your menzies um,

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that is where you're shedding. Remember that really blood vessel

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>rich lining that gets developed every month along the the

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>um the inside of your uterus um that allows an

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>fertilized egg to attach to it, really nourishes it and

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>let's it turn into a fetus and all of that.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty great stuff, but every month you need to

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>shed it and and grow some more stuff. So when

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you shed it, that's what comes out in the form

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of your your menzies right. And it can feel apparently

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like a waterfall for a while, but it actually usually

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>amounts to nothing more than four tablespoons, which is like

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a quarter cup at the most. Yeah, on average, can

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>last from three to ten days. Usually the heaviest part

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of that will be in the second and third day um.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And if you do feel like you're having an abnormally

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>heavy period, then maybe you should call your doctor. Of course,

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and as you get to know your body, you're gonna

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be very in tune with your cycle and

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you know best how you feel and whether or not

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you think something's going on. But the first couple will

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>probably freak you out. Yeah, it's totally understandable. Yeah, and there's, um,

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a long history of of period shaming, uh, which

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is terrible, and there are a lot of people trying

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to do something about that now, in particular in Australia. Uh.

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>There's this really cool thing called a Celebration Day for Girls.

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I was founded in two thousand and it's a program

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I think founded by a woman that wrote a book

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>called A Blessing Not a Curse, which is basically a

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>guide book about monarchy in the in the cycle uh

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and said all these shameful, ugly attitudes about monarchy and

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>in the period or obviously gonna have a really uh

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>negative impact on your on your child. And so they're

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.719
<v Speaker 1>getting together now and they're doing these workshops where they

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>get together with mothers and their daughters or fathers and

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>daughters are both and where they teach them about what's

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>going on and basically saying this is not something bad

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>or dirty or ugly or shameful. This is awesome. This

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>is like you should celebrate this. You're becoming a woman. Yeah,

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>when you look amazing, it's really amazing stuff. Yeah, it's

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. So, you know, I think our audience is

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty sensitive and uh, up to date and forward thinking.

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But if there are any dads out there, little brothers

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>who are are making fun of sister's period or your

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>daughter's period, just don't even make jokes. Don't make cracks.

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>This is very stand outside for a while by yourself.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a very rough time, or it can be, and

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>they need to be celebrated for entering this period in

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>their life, not not shamed. So that's good stuff, chuck. Yeah,

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you know what it reminds me of. There's his kids

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in the hall from years and years and years ago

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>where Dave Foley was the boyfriend with the good attitude

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>towards menstruation. Remember that one, Hious, that's pretty good. Was

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>there a counterpart that it was a little still liquy? Yeah,

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that's good. I'm sure. I'm positive it's online. Uh. One

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of the things though, even though men's season, monarchy and

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>menstruation should be celebrated and investigated and understood and not

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>poked fun at um, is that there are some definite

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>downsides to it. Apparently, there is a a pole of

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>women Um that was carried out by the Association of

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Reproductive Health Professionals and only eight percent of women said

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that they um found something positive about their um menstrual cycle.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>There about menstruating, they weren't very happy with it, right,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure one of the big reasons is because,

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>um it feels awful like you cramp. And the reason

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>why cramping is associated with it is because that endometrium

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is being shed and the way it sheds is your

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>um users contracts. And it can be uncomfortable to say

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the least. Yeah, it can be everywhere uncomfortable to debilitating,

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 1>depending on who you are. There is no single method

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to relieve cramping. You might try medications or just rest

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 1>or certain diet or activity, Uh, try anything. You can.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Ask your your girlfriends, ask your mom, ask your weird aunt,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they'll probably have some good advice on on

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>how to you know, quell those cramps somewhat. And then finally,

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:30.240
<v Speaker 1>of course, along with menstruation comes pre minstrul old syndrome

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.399
<v Speaker 1>p MS, which we should do a show on at

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>some point. And I agree wholeheartedly. Man, I think there's

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of um weirdness, a lot of misunderstanding around that. Yeah,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Uh, there may be some bloating going on,

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>aches and pains which you talked about, and moodiness which

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>can happen, and you know you may not feel like yourself.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's just the easiest way to say it.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>You're not a bad person. You may hate all boys,

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you might. Yeah, and again Dad's little brothers, big, go

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>stand outside. Don't start making fun of your sister and

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>saying you're acting this way because you're going to have

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 1>your period. That is a bad road to go down.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Clean dog poop up in the yard or something. That's right,

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and you think about yourself for a little while. All right, Well,

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>let's take another break here, and when we come back,

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk a little bit more about teenage moods and

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:42.919
<v Speaker 1>acne and all the other good stuff. All right, we're back,

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry just gave us a stamp of approval that

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we're doing a pretty good job so far. I'm not

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>sure if I buy no man, I think she's she

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't lie to us, scurry lies. She's a publicist. Yeah,

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the publicists did not like that episode. Oh did you

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>hear bad things? Uh? Huh. All I've gotten is like, yeah,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys hit it on the head. Just a lot

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.919
<v Speaker 1>of them were like, you really hurt my feelings really,

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 1>especially once they didn't make it all the way through

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the episode. Oh where I say at the end, like,

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking about big celebrity probosists, which you probably

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>should have frontloaded because some people haven't made it through that.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>And they said, well, all right, let's talk about acne. Uh.

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>We We've been over acne a bunch, so I don't

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>think we really need to talk about the actual process

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of acne. Haven't we done like a whole episode on acne? Yeah,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Plus we hit it again in the male puberty. Oh yeah,

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>but um, you're gonna get acne a little girl. Yeah. Well,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why is because you're now producing

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 1>hair follicles. And your hair follicles produced see bum, and

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>see bum is a substance that mixes with all sorts

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of nasty stuff, including dead skin cells, and when it

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 1>happens in the follicle itself rather than on your skin,

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>bacteria likes to eat that stuff. You get an infection

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's is it, and it's gonna happen, but it

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>won't happen to you as much as it does two boys.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>That's right. So much for not getting into what acne

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>is that was fast man. I was like that old

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>FedEx guy. Uh So, this is a tough time in

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>your life. Your body is changing. You're gonna feel weird,

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 1>you might be cramping, you might feel physically odd, emotionally odd,

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>hormonially off, and then on top of that, you're gonna

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>add acne. It's it's cruel and unusual punishment, is what

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that is. And Tom actually wrote the male puberty and

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>female puberty um articles, right, and in both of them

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>he says just wash your face. And we said that

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>in the male puberty episode and we heard from some

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 1>people that are like, yeah, that's great that that works

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>for some people. It doesn't work for everybody. Know, Um,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they're basically like dealing with PMS. There's a lot of

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>different things you can try and just go find out

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>what's good for you. Absolutely I got lucky. Some people

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>aren't as lucky. I was not lucky. Did you have

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>bad acney? Oh yeah, not on my face? I Backney, right,

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>But even still I get zits and you don't. It

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>drives me crazy. Yeah, well it drives Emily crazy just

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>because she wants to pop him. Yeah you mean like

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to do that too. She didn't get any action. So

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>she's just like, come on, what's going on. Yeah, she

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>looks forward to summer. I get more in the summer

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>if you were a young girl. Um. One thing we

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't say in the boys episode, which we probably could have,

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>because little boys can wear makeup if they want, I guess,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 1>but take your makeup off at night. Oh yeah, I remember.

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>For some reason, this stands out in my mind. I

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 1>saw an interview with Stevie next years ago where someone

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 1>was asking about her skin looking so great. Still. Oh,

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you told me this. It might have been

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>it might have been in the acting episode, but she said,

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you know is even in the height of my like

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>drinking and drugging days, at the end of the night,

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I would take off my makeup. And she's like, that's

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>why I have such great skin. That in all the

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>lacy scarves that I wear. That helps, I guess, protects

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>her from bugs exactly. So we've covered pretty much everything physiological.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>This is all the stuff that's going to happen to you. Um, physically, psychologically,

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of changes too. I don't know,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>nothing happens psychologically, right, So, I mean, I would like

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to think that it's probably all based. You could probably

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 1>trace every single change in emotion to hormone. I don't

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.319
<v Speaker 1>think that this is necessarily true. I think that really

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>kicks it off, really goods things going. But it is

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.839
<v Speaker 1>true that you have to deal with little brothers and

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>boys who don't understand, and jerk dads and um even

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 1>a nice supportive mom is going to seem like a

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>monster to you. Like so, I think it creates something

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of a feedback loop for these several years of your

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>puberty where you are way moodier, way more stressed out,

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and uh, the world reacts to you as such, so

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you react to the world as such, and you just

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>basically have to buckle up and hold on for this stuff.

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And there are a lot of really bad decisions you

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>can make along the way because you start to have

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot more freedom. You get your driver's license, you

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>are out there in the world, and people have just

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.399
<v Speaker 1>imbued a lot more trust and responsibility and you at

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the time when you possibly deserve it the absolute least,

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>but you need it the most because it's part of

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>your development. So you really have to make some good

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.399
<v Speaker 1>choices at this point in time, at times when things

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.959
<v Speaker 1>don't quite make sense to you. So at a time

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>like this, the best thing that you can do is

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>turn to Judy Bloom. Yeah, man, amen, just set you straight.

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>She certainly will. You're gonna be really self aware for

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the first time. You're just happy, go lucky days is

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a little girl are gonna be long gone, and you're

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really aware of your appearance. Probably gonna be

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>worried about your appearance. Um, that is so normal as

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a parent. You may think it's self obsession. It is not.

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>It is a young girl starting to become a woman

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and looking in the mirror and going, what in the

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>world is happening here? Yeah? Right, Uh, look at my face.

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It just screw a quarter inch while I was standing

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>here exactly. Uh uh. This is when your your daughter

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to start um looking at her belief system

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and challenging yours and saying, like I said earlier about you,

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>big hypocrite. That's when your daughter is going to become

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.799
<v Speaker 1>a vegan and yell at you for buying a dog

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>from a pet store and become aware of all these

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>social injustices and like, how in the world can you

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>guys act like that? Like you're supposed to be my teachers.

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>It's called Yeah, put food on the tube. That's all

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 1>that matters. Uh. So, yeah, they're gonna be challenging you,

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be uh erratic and moody and um,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be a big circus and you just

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no avoiding it. You just gotta get through it. Yeah,

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and again, I mean, like just keeping the lines of

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>communication as open as possible and not chasing your parents

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>out of your room when they come and try to

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:56.359
<v Speaker 1>talk to because they seem concerned. It's a really good move.

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>And if you're a parent's a good move to try

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to address stuff, especially if you're noticing things that your

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>kid didn't do before. There's a certain amount of healthy experimentation,

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>right sure, with with pushing boundaries and figuring out where

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the edges are, but that can very easily and very

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>quickly change into like really like problematic deviant behavior. These

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>are the choices I was telling you about earlier. Kids

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that like, you have to make good choices. Even though

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>some of your friends are not making good choices, you

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>need to still stand up and do the right thing

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and the same things. And if your parent you're noticing

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that your kid might not be making the good choices.

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You have to address that. That's right. And again, I

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 1>think that the best line is talking to them, not

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>necessarily locking them in their room for the rest of

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.800
<v Speaker 1>their teenage years, because that doesn't work. I hate to

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 1>break it to you. Uh, kids are gonna find a way.

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:50.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna sneak out. They're gonna do what they want

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to do. So if you stay there, buddy, and as

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>much as you can and keep those lines open, you're

0:43:55.680 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be ahead of the game. Uh. Your daughter's gonna

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>start caring about fashion and clothing a little more. Um,

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and boys just gonna go boy crazy, might go a

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>little boy crazy, but she's gonna be looking around saying,

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 1>where do I fit in? You know? Am I am

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I gonna follow the trends? Or am I gonna wear? Uh?

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Am I gonna have my own style and just be

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>my own person. And where these weird clothes I might

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>get made fun of? Well supposedly like weird is like

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>where it's at these days with the kids. Did you

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>know that? Sure? So then we're normal clothes right and

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>less like a young Republican exactly. Um. Some potential pitfalls

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>here as your body is changing because of society's obsession

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>with the female form and getting bombarded every day with

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>how thin you have to be and how perfect your

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>body has to be. Uh, it is fraught with complications

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 1>as a young girl to look a certain way. And

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this is where you can set yourself up for trouble

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.919
<v Speaker 1>with eating disorders or if you're if you're not good

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>at expressing yourself, you have no outlet to doing like

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>self cutting and these bad things behind closed doors. Um,

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>all of that is is very sad, scary stuff, but um,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>all of it can be overcome and it is all

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>very much treatable as long as you talk to your

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>parents about it to get their help they want to

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>help you, or somebody someone you trust. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was looking into self cutting in particular. Um,

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the it seems like if you learn to

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 1>express your emotions through something like that, that's it's tough

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to shed that. Apparently, like fifty or sixty percent of

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>people who self cut as adults all started um at puberty,

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. So that's that's not a healthy way to

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>express yourself for to get the rage out or whatever

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it is that you're doing that for. So you again

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to be smart during this time too. Uh

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>you Uh, your daughter might be experimenting with masturbation early

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 1>on and thinking about sexy things. It's all very normal. Um,

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>even at a very very young age. Uh. There are

0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>young girls as young as four and five years old

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>who find themselves simulating sex, like with their pillow in

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>their bed, with a stuffed animal. Like I've I've seen

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it with my own two eyes, Mr. Bank. I don't

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>want to embarrass anyone in my family, but I've seen it.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably stop there, and it's uh for a parent. If

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you've never seen that, it can be very Yeah, it

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>can be very disconcerting, I'm sure, but it's all super

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>normal and you don't have to worry about it. Um. No,

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>but that said you were not ready for sex when

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going through puberty or even right after you emerge

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 1>from it. No, of course not. And that's not at

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>four and five. They don't even know what that is.

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they're just uh, they know it feels good

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're messing around. And uh, don't shame them, don't

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>make them feel like they're dirty or doing something bad. Uh.

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 1>If it you know, everything I read just says you know,

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>just sort of wait it out and it should eventually pass. Basically,

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>let it guess pass, yea or um, maybe if you

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>interrupt or like interrupt her to go do something fun,

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>play a game, um or. I even saw one advice

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>burst into the room just as a scary clown. That'll

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>stop it quick. Uh. One advice thing I saw said

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:27.439
<v Speaker 1>to um sometimes to just if it's happening in front,

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 1>like you're all sitting around watching TV and you see

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it's happening, then say, you know, would you like to

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 1>go to your room and have a look private time,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and then they'll come back ten minutes later and be

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>with the family again. Where did you see that advice?

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It was in a on a parenting site. Huh, Well,

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's bad advice? No, I'm just I'm surprised.

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were doling that out yourself. No, of course,

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never dealt with this, but I went to a

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of because I couldn't find any medical advice except

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 1>for from parenting sites for doctors. Was that like, it's normal,

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>it's normal. It didn't go any further than that. Yeah,

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>basically the root of it all was don't shame them,

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and uh, just let them do their thing. Yeah, I

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 1>mean it makes sense, all right. Should we finish up

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.359
<v Speaker 1>like we did with the male puberty and talk about

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>some puberty rituals around the world. You know, we have

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 1>a future is like health coaches after this. I think

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling we we did pretty good here,

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>but also the feeling we're gonna hear from some people

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 1>that are like, you guys, you know you shouldn't say

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this these days. Yeah, you know, like that's I've been

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 1>tense the entire episode because of that. Well, we we

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>tried to get it just right. We did, but I also,

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're imparting some information here and heavy, heavy,

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>important information. I want to get it right, you know. Yeah,

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>but you can't be at the leading edge of every word.

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>We can, you know, yes, we can, all right, the

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>female puberty rituals. There is a great history, especially pre

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century, of UH seclusion at the beginning of monarchy,

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>taking a girl out of the tribe or out of

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the village or out of wherever for a period of

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days to a year or more, um

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>secluded away from everyone else. And I looked it up

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's a couple of reasons they think sociologically, one

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>is to act as a social preparation where it's a

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>good thing because they get their secluded with their moms

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and their aunts and they really say like all right,

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>well now we gotta start teaching you all these things.

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And the other one was just superstition relating to blood

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:40.479
<v Speaker 1>as ancient as it gets, or fearing um women who

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>are going through their menstrual cycle. Supernatural reasons um apparently, Uh,

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I like this one. The Urubu cut poor in Brazil,

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 1>their tribe in Brazil. Um they when a girl goes

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>through monarchy, they cut her hair and then she can

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Mary once it grows back to shoulder length. Yeah, it's

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting, like it's it's almost like a preternatural

0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>understanding of the development that the body still has yet

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to go through before she can you know Mary. Yeah,

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a good point. Uh. In Ghana, there are villages

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that um for a few weeks, they separate the girl

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:25.919
<v Speaker 1>from the village and then they give her instruction which

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about, which is a good thing on

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 1>social mora, aids and sex said and courtship, and then

0:50:31.640 --> 0:50:34.040
<v Speaker 1>then they have a big celebration, which is really nice.

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>With Yeah, same with the Jewish community as of the

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. Um, with the advent of bot mitzvah's, which

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is like a bar mitzvah for girls. Yeah, but they

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have them before the twentieth century. Yeah. And I

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 1>looked into other rituals and things, and almost every one

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of them I saw we're sort of along those same lines,

0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>which is, seclude them for a little while, teach them

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>about things, and then throw a big party. Uh. Did

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you see the Apache one, the morning Star dance? When

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:07.319
<v Speaker 1>an Apache girl goes through monarchy, Um, she's secluded from

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the village for four days, goes through

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<v Speaker 1>this um basically a period of fasting, um, getting very

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<v Speaker 1>little sleep, and on the fourth day, while she's already

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<v Speaker 1>basically starving and sleep to probably, she does a dance

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<v Speaker 1>from sundown to sun up? Are you kidding me? And

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<v Speaker 1>um they there's a really neat national geographic video about

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<v Speaker 1>it where this girl is so excited because this is

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<v Speaker 1>like this marks the transition to womanhood for her, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, she learns a lot about herself, her tribe

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<v Speaker 1>or history, um during this period because she's hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with her you know, her mom and her grandmother and

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<v Speaker 1>just being taught all this stuff. Interesting. Yeah, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. I saw some South American tribe. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that files the teeth into fangs. Why monarchy? Monarchy? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>have you got anything else? I got nothing else? Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope we did something good here. I think we did.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about it. Uh. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>I just tweeted at you, so you may have seen this,

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<v Speaker 1>loud and clear. Just finished listening to the Auto Tune episode, which,

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<v Speaker 1>in my humble opinion, was one of the best you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done. A lot of people like that one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to thank you both for being so conscious

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<v Speaker 1>about letting Tracy and Holly have the mic for your

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<v Speaker 1>listener mail discussion. You let the women speak about their

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<v Speaker 1>In this should not be an extraordinary thing. Yet it was. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>it demonstrated that you both have an excellent grasp of

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to be a male feminist and solid

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<v Speaker 1>line of work had your attitude and intent on a

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<v Speaker 1>lobbyist for a nonprofit, by the way, that works against

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence. So bravo, three cheers and well done. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is from Noel. Do tweet. Thanks a lot. No, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really nice of you. Try do your best. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Yeah, do your best. Suddenly making it about us,

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't do that. Uh not this not this time, time,

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