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Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should know from house Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerry's over there

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Speaker 1: to oversee this one in particular. Yeah, and uh, this

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Speaker 1: is stuffy should know. Yeah, I'm glad Jerry's here for

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Speaker 1: this one because if it was guest producer Noel, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, I don't know. Yeah, this is on

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Speaker 1: female puberty. Jerry went through female puberty. No did not.

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Speaker 1: He did not, although Noel has a daughter, so he

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Speaker 1: might listen to this. So this one's for Nola exactly,

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Speaker 1: and for all you families out there, all you kids,

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Speaker 1: all your parents. Just like with the male puberty episode,

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Speaker 1: we hope that this serves as a springboard to conversation

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Speaker 1: because from what I found in research, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you did as well, that one of the big big

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Speaker 1: things that you need to try to maintain, which is

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Speaker 1: exceedingly difficult, is open lines of communication with your pubescent daughter.

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Speaker 1: And if you're the pubescent kid turning into a woman,

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Speaker 1: you need to try to share your feelings and talk

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Speaker 1: to your rents if at all possible. Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this is very similar to male puberty.

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Speaker 1: I found not completely but well, I mean obviously physiologically

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Speaker 1: it's different, but going through a lot of the same stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Um, and and you're right, there will be

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Speaker 1: that point as a parent where you and I've heard

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Speaker 1: this from friends where they finally look at their teenage

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Speaker 1: daughter who was you were once their hero and now

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Speaker 1: not funny, you're not cool. Uh And why should I

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Speaker 1: listen to you about anything, because you're also a big

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Speaker 1: fat hypocrite, right exactly. Just get ready, folks, Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: ready to you. And then well yeah, true, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: then after the age of thirteen, you're gonna be friends

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Speaker 1: again when they're like in their mid twenties, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna think you're great again after the age of thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way it works at all.

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Speaker 1: Between thirteen and like three, oh yeah, they're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: think you're super lame. That's called the waste land years.

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Speaker 1: And then they think you're cool again. Yeah, well I

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Speaker 1: was talking to give me about this. Then you feel

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Speaker 1: bad about you treated them from thirteen twenty you realize, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're not so bad after all. That. So female

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Speaker 1: puberty and um, the girls, if you're listening to this

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Speaker 1: and you are going through puberty, you're about to go

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Speaker 1: through puberty. Um, let us just be the the just

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Speaker 1: one thing that you turn to to find out more

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Speaker 1: about talk to people. Like I said, there's also a

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Speaker 1: ton a ton of stuff on the internet that has

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Speaker 1: some really great advice suggestions just basically type female puberty.

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Speaker 1: And anything that looks like it was compiled by a

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Speaker 1: doctor or reviewed by a doctor, it's probably fairly trustworthy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And um, here's a piece of advice. Uh, go to

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Speaker 1: iTunes and subscribe to stuff mom never told you. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good advice from our colleagues,

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Speaker 1: Caroline Kristen, because it is great and especially at that age,

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Speaker 1: they will help you through a whole host of issues

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Speaker 1: hormonal and emotional and physical and empower you. And it's

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Speaker 1: a great show. And they even have covered this probably

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Speaker 1: better than we will. But at least let us get

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Speaker 1: you going in the right direction, you know, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm tittering nervously over here. I think you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: but I'm strangely calmer with this one than I was

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Speaker 1: with the male puberty one. I don't understand why. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this one from the same research perspective, Like I'm researching.

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Speaker 1: this started, right, okay, Chuck. Yes, Let's say you're a

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Speaker 1: which is not the same thing as precocious puberty. That's

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Speaker 1: an actual medical condition that you should see a doctor

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Speaker 1: LH the lutenizing hormone and f s H the follicle

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Speaker 1: I keep saying you, I'm not talking to you, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: Well I was. I'm the little girl in this experiment, right, girls, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you you are. I'll just stay the little girl

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Speaker 1: that you have your skin knee I forgotten. Um you have.

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Speaker 1: UM undeveloped eggs, which are called follicles. And remember one

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Speaker 1: So um, when your follicle hormones stimulating, When your follicle

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Speaker 1: hopefully as fully developed as it's gonna get. And then finally,

423
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Speaker 1: your your skeleton and your muscles and your cardiovascular system,

424
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: everything you're you're basically a young woman. You can vote,

425
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: you can't drink, and you can't rent a car. Right,

426
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: that's where you're at in life pretty much. So. UM.

427
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: One of the the again, one of the long time

428
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: markers of um pubescence in girls has been breast development,

429
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: starting with breast buds, right, And what's going on there

430
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: is your um. Again, your body's developing so that it

431
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: can support a kid internally. And UM, one of the

432
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: things that you will have to do once you have

433
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: a kid, or be able to do is the nurse. Right,

434
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: So your breast development is changing. There's more tissue, they're

435
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: they're getting bigger, and the one of the reasons they're

436
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: getting bigger is because there's they're actually structurally changing, so

437
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: you're forming milk ducks in there and new layers of

438
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: fatty tissue so that you can nurse. It's pretty cool.

439
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: And actually I read a really really interesting article on

440
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: UM mother's milk and the Stranger the other day. UM,

441
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: it's amazing stuff. Get this, dude. So apparently mother's milk

442
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: can change day to day and produce new antibodies based

443
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: on what the infant needs. So, like, if the infant

444
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: is battling like a little bit of a bug. The

445
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: mom's body can produce anybodies that are transferred through the milk.

446
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: They're like, how does the mom know this? And they

447
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: have figured out that the baby saliva communicates what what

448
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: what anybody's here she needs through the nipple, and then

449
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: the mother's body analyzes that stuff and goes, oh, we

450
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: need these humanibodies, produces it and gives it to the

451
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: kid in the form of milk. This is what you

452
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: will be able to do in just a few years. Girls,

453
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: that's pretty phenomenal stuff, that's right. Uh. So, as your

454
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: breast are getting larger, uh, they may be sore, they

455
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: may be itchy. Uh. If you have rapid growth, they

456
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: may have some stretch marks. Don't need to worry about

457
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. They may be uh not the

458
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: same size. One breast might grow quicker than the other.

459
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: That's okay too. And Chuck, like you said, also, depending

460
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: on your race, um, you may develop breastbuds earlier later again,

461
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: totally normal. That's right, all right, So Chuck, the breasts

462
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: are developed, the hormones are raging, um so, and the

463
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: womb is developing, right. And as the womb is developing

464
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: and it's learning to ovulate. Right. Um. The menstrual cycle, Guys,

465
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: you and I tend to think of it as basically

466
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: this um one week thing that happens, right, it's actually

467
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: a usually a between a twenty and thirty day process.

468
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: And it's not just the the part where you have

469
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Speaker 1: your mensies, which is the part where you're shedding the

470
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: endometrium from inside the uterus, the lining. It's this whole

471
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: process of the follicles becoming stimulated, producing an ovum, the

472
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: ovum traveling down the fallopian tube to the uterus hanging

473
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: out there waiting to see whether it gets fertilized or not,

474
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and um. And then when the egg doesn't get fertilized,

475
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: that endometrium, the lining of the uterus, which has become

476
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: rich with like these blood vessels as part of the

477
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: menstrual process, gets shed. Right. But before it gets shed,

478
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: one of the things that will suddenly appear about six

479
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: months prior to monarchy is what's called a white vaginal discharge.

480
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: That's right, it is completely normal and it is uh

481
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: the precursor to your first period. You don't need to

482
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: stress out about it if you find that, uh, you know,

483
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: you're in your room and you're getting ready for bed,

484
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: and you you see something you haven't seen before in

485
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: your underwear, then don't freak out. It's all very normal.

486
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: It actually means that you have a very healthy uh uterus.

487
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: That's right. Uh. There are all kinds of charge actually,

488
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: and I did not know that there are all kinds

489
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: of discharge. Are you referring to that one UM article

490
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: we said, there's there's a great article on our podcast

491
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: page that has photos of different types of discharge that

492
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: that says, this is normal. This is normal. See a doctor,

493
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: this is normal, you know. Yeah, the normal types UM

494
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: light yellow discharge if you haven't started your period yet,

495
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: the white, thick discharge is common at the beginning and

496
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: end of the cycle. UM should not itch. If there

497
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: is an itch going on, then you could have a

498
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: yeast infection, right, which is basically just a bloom of

499
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: candid to which can be brought on by things like

500
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: taking antibiotics or something like that. The discharge can be

501
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: clear and stretchy. That means you are ovulating. That is

502
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: fertile mucus, right, That's the that's the good stuff. That's

503
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: the stuff that let's sperm get in there and really

504
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: travel to the ovum. That's right, clear and watery. That

505
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: is not a problem either. That can occur at all

506
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: times of the cycle. Uh. It can be dark yellow

507
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: or green. Uh, and that could be a problem, and

508
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: that means there could be an infection, especially like I said,

509
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: if it's itchy, or if it's clumpy, or if it

510
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: has a bad odor, then that may be something you

511
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: need to get checked out. But for the most part

512
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of this stuff, it's called cervical mucus, and you're going

513
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: to be discharging it for basically the rest of your life,

514
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: just a it's just a fact of life. And again

515
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: it means that you have a nice, healthy uterus and

516
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: everything's all well with it, unless again there's some warning

517
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: signs to it, and if there are discussing a doctor,

518
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: get fixed up. You'll be fine. Yeah. And the last

519
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: one I think we should mention is brown because that

520
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: can probably be pretty stressful if you've never seen that

521
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: before as a young girl. And that's after your period,

522
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: and that's all that is is your body just cleaning

523
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: things out. And also again completely normal because blood when

524
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: it's old looks brown, right, So that's vaginal discharge. That's

525
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: different from your actual mensies right. So with your menzies um,

526
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: that is where you're shedding. Remember that really blood vessel

527
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: rich lining that gets developed every month along the the

528
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: um the inside of your uterus um that allows an

529
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: fertilized egg to attach to it, really nourishes it and

530
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: let's it turn into a fetus and all of that.

531
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty great stuff, but every month you need to

532
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: shed it and and grow some more stuff. So when

533
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: you shed it, that's what comes out in the form

534
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: of your your menzies right. And it can feel apparently

535
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: like a waterfall for a while, but it actually usually

536
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: amounts to nothing more than four tablespoons, which is like

537
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: a quarter cup at the most. Yeah, on average, can

538
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: last from three to ten days. Usually the heaviest part

539
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: of that will be in the second and third day um.

540
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: And if you do feel like you're having an abnormally

541
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: heavy period, then maybe you should call your doctor. Of course,

542
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: and as you get to know your body, you're gonna

543
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna be very in tune with your cycle and

544
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: you know best how you feel and whether or not

545
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: you think something's going on. But the first couple will

546
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: probably freak you out. Yeah, it's totally understandable. Yeah, and there's, um,

547
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: there's a long history of of period shaming, uh, which

548
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: is terrible, and there are a lot of people trying

549
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: to do something about that now, in particular in Australia. Uh.

550
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: There's this really cool thing called a Celebration Day for Girls.

551
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: I was founded in two thousand and it's a program

552
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: I think founded by a woman that wrote a book

553
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: called A Blessing Not a Curse, which is basically a

554
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: guide book about monarchy in the in the cycle uh

555
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: and said all these shameful, ugly attitudes about monarchy and

556
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: in the period or obviously gonna have a really uh

557
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: negative impact on your on your child. And so they're

558
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: getting together now and they're doing these workshops where they

559
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: get together with mothers and their daughters or fathers and

560
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: daughters are both and where they teach them about what's

561
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: going on and basically saying this is not something bad

562
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: or dirty or ugly or shameful. This is awesome. This

563
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: is like you should celebrate this. You're becoming a woman. Yeah,

564
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: when you look amazing, it's really amazing stuff. Yeah, it's

565
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: it's amazing. So, you know, I think our audience is

566
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: pretty sensitive and uh, up to date and forward thinking.

567
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: But if there are any dads out there, little brothers

568
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: who are are making fun of sister's period or your

569
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: daughter's period, just don't even make jokes. Don't make cracks.

570
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: This is very stand outside for a while by yourself.

571
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: It's a very rough time, or it can be, and

572
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: they need to be celebrated for entering this period in

573
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: their life, not not shamed. So that's good stuff, chuck. Yeah,

574
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of. There's his kids

575
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: in the hall from years and years and years ago

576
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: where Dave Foley was the boyfriend with the good attitude

577
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: towards menstruation. Remember that one, Hious, that's pretty good. Was

578
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: there a counterpart that it was a little still liquy? Yeah,

579
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: that's good. I'm sure. I'm positive it's online. Uh. One

580
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: of the things though, even though men's season, monarchy and

581
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: menstruation should be celebrated and investigated and understood and not

582
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: poked fun at um, is that there are some definite

583
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: downsides to it. Apparently, there is a a pole of

584
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: women Um that was carried out by the Association of

585
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: Reproductive Health Professionals and only eight percent of women said

586
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: that they um found something positive about their um menstrual cycle.

587
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: There about menstruating, they weren't very happy with it, right,

588
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure one of the big reasons is because,

589
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: um it feels awful like you cramp. And the reason

590
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: why cramping is associated with it is because that endometrium

591
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: is being shed and the way it sheds is your

592
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: um users contracts. And it can be uncomfortable to say

593
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: the least. Yeah, it can be everywhere uncomfortable to debilitating,

594
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: depending on who you are. There is no single method

595
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: to relieve cramping. You might try medications or just rest

596
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: or certain diet or activity, Uh, try anything. You can.

597
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: Ask your your girlfriends, ask your mom, ask your weird aunt,

598
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: and uh, they'll probably have some good advice on on

599
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: how to you know, quell those cramps somewhat. And then finally,

600
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: of course, along with menstruation comes pre minstrul old syndrome

601
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: p MS, which we should do a show on at

602
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: some point. And I agree wholeheartedly. Man, I think there's

603
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of um weirdness, a lot of misunderstanding around that. Yeah,

604
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: I agree. Uh, there may be some bloating going on,

605
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: aches and pains which you talked about, and moodiness which

606
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: can happen, and you know you may not feel like yourself.

607
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's just the easiest way to say it.

608
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: You're not a bad person. You may hate all boys,

609
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: you might. Yeah, and again Dad's little brothers, big, go

610
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: stand outside. Don't start making fun of your sister and

611
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: saying you're acting this way because you're going to have

612
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: your period. That is a bad road to go down.

613
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Clean dog poop up in the yard or something. That's right,

614
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: and you think about yourself for a little while. All right, Well,

615
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: let's take another break here, and when we come back,

616
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about teenage moods and

617
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: acne and all the other good stuff. All right, we're back,

618
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: and Jerry just gave us a stamp of approval that

619
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: we're doing a pretty good job so far. I'm not

620
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: sure if I buy no man, I think she's she

621
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: didn't lie to us, scurry lies. She's a publicist. Yeah,

622
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: the publicists did not like that episode. Oh did you

623
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: hear bad things? Uh? Huh. All I've gotten is like, yeah,

624
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: you guys hit it on the head. Just a lot

625
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: of them were like, you really hurt my feelings really,

626
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: especially once they didn't make it all the way through

627
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: the episode. Oh where I say at the end, like,

628
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about big celebrity probosists, which you probably

629
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: should have frontloaded because some people haven't made it through that.

630
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: And they said, well, all right, let's talk about acne. Uh.

631
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: We We've been over acne a bunch, so I don't

632
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: think we really need to talk about the actual process

633
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: of acne. Haven't we done like a whole episode on acne? Yeah,

634
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Plus we hit it again in the male puberty. Oh yeah,

635
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: but um, you're gonna get acne a little girl. Yeah. Well,

636
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why is because you're now producing

637
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: hair follicles. And your hair follicles produced see bum, and

638
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: see bum is a substance that mixes with all sorts

639
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: of nasty stuff, including dead skin cells, and when it

640
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: happens in the follicle itself rather than on your skin,

641
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: bacteria likes to eat that stuff. You get an infection

642
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: and that's is it, and it's gonna happen, but it

643
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: won't happen to you as much as it does two boys.

644
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: That's right. So much for not getting into what acne

645
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: is that was fast man. I was like that old

646
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: FedEx guy. Uh So, this is a tough time in

647
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: your life. Your body is changing. You're gonna feel weird,

648
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: you might be cramping, you might feel physically odd, emotionally odd,

649
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: hormonially off, and then on top of that, you're gonna

650
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: add acne. It's it's cruel and unusual punishment, is what

651
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: that is. And Tom actually wrote the male puberty and

652
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: female puberty um articles, right, and in both of them

653
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: he says just wash your face. And we said that

654
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: in the male puberty episode and we heard from some

655
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: people that are like, yeah, that's great that that works

656
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: for some people. It doesn't work for everybody. Know, Um,

657
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: they're basically like dealing with PMS. There's a lot of

658
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: different things you can try and just go find out

659
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: what's good for you. Absolutely I got lucky. Some people

660
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: aren't as lucky. I was not lucky. Did you have

661
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: bad acney? Oh yeah, not on my face? I Backney, right,

662
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: But even still I get zits and you don't. It

663
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. Yeah, well it drives Emily crazy just

664
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: because she wants to pop him. Yeah you mean like

665
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to do that too. She didn't get any action. So

666
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: she's just like, come on, what's going on. Yeah, she

667
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: looks forward to summer. I get more in the summer

668
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: if you were a young girl. Um. One thing we

669
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: didn't say in the boys episode, which we probably could have,

670
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: because little boys can wear makeup if they want, I guess,

671
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: but take your makeup off at night. Oh yeah, I remember.

672
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: For some reason, this stands out in my mind. I

673
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: saw an interview with Stevie next years ago where someone

674
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: was asking about her skin looking so great. Still. Oh,

675
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: I think you told me this. It might have been

676
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: it might have been in the acting episode, but she said,

677
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: you know is even in the height of my like

678
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: drinking and drugging days, at the end of the night,

679
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: I would take off my makeup. And she's like, that's

680
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: why I have such great skin. That in all the

681
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: lacy scarves that I wear. That helps, I guess, protects

682
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: her from bugs exactly. So we've covered pretty much everything physiological.

683
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: This is all the stuff that's going to happen to you. Um, physically, psychologically,

684
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of changes too. I don't know,

685
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: nothing happens psychologically, right, So, I mean, I would like

686
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: to think that it's probably all based. You could probably

687
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: trace every single change in emotion to hormone. I don't

688
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: think that this is necessarily true. I think that really

689
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: kicks it off, really goods things going. But it is

690
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: true that you have to deal with little brothers and

691
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: boys who don't understand, and jerk dads and um even

692
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: a nice supportive mom is going to seem like a

693
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: monster to you. Like so, I think it creates something

694
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: of a feedback loop for these several years of your

695
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: puberty where you are way moodier, way more stressed out,

696
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: and uh, the world reacts to you as such, so

697
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: you react to the world as such, and you just

698
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: basically have to buckle up and hold on for this stuff.

699
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of really bad decisions you

700
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: can make along the way because you start to have

701
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot more freedom. You get your driver's license, you

702
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: are out there in the world, and people have just

703
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: imbued a lot more trust and responsibility and you at

704
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: the time when you possibly deserve it the absolute least,

705
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: but you need it the most because it's part of

706
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: your development. So you really have to make some good

707
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: choices at this point in time, at times when things

708
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 1: don't quite make sense to you. So at a time

709
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: like this, the best thing that you can do is

710
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: turn to Judy Bloom. Yeah, man, amen, just set you straight.

711
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: She certainly will. You're gonna be really self aware for

712
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: the first time. You're just happy, go lucky days is

713
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: a little girl are gonna be long gone, and you're

714
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna be really aware of your appearance. Probably gonna be

715
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: worried about your appearance. Um, that is so normal as

716
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: a parent. You may think it's self obsession. It is not.

717
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: It is a young girl starting to become a woman

718
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: and looking in the mirror and going, what in the

719
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: world is happening here? Yeah? Right, Uh, look at my face.

720
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: It just screw a quarter inch while I was standing

721
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: here exactly. Uh uh. This is when your your daughter

722
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: is going to start um looking at her belief system

723
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: and challenging yours and saying, like I said earlier about you,

724
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: big hypocrite. That's when your daughter is going to become

725
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: a vegan and yell at you for buying a dog

726
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: from a pet store and become aware of all these

727
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: social injustices and like, how in the world can you

728
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: guys act like that? Like you're supposed to be my teachers.

729
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: It's called Yeah, put food on the tube. That's all

730
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: that matters. Uh. So, yeah, they're gonna be challenging you,

731
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be uh erratic and moody and um,

732
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a big circus and you just

733
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: there's no avoiding it. You just gotta get through it. Yeah,

734
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: and again, I mean, like just keeping the lines of

735
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: communication as open as possible and not chasing your parents

736
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: out of your room when they come and try to

737
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: talk to because they seem concerned. It's a really good move.

738
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: And if you're a parent's a good move to try

739
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: to address stuff, especially if you're noticing things that your

740
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: kid didn't do before. There's a certain amount of healthy experimentation,

741
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: right sure, with with pushing boundaries and figuring out where

742
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: the edges are, but that can very easily and very

743
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: quickly change into like really like problematic deviant behavior. These

744
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: are the choices I was telling you about earlier. Kids

745
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: that like, you have to make good choices. Even though

746
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: some of your friends are not making good choices, you

747
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: need to still stand up and do the right thing

748
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: and the same things. And if your parent you're noticing

749
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: that your kid might not be making the good choices.

750
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: You have to address that. That's right. And again, I

751
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: think that the best line is talking to them, not

752
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: necessarily locking them in their room for the rest of

753
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: their teenage years, because that doesn't work. I hate to

754
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: break it to you. Uh, kids are gonna find a way.

755
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna sneak out. They're gonna do what they want

756
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: to do. So if you stay there, buddy, and as

757
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: much as you can and keep those lines open, you're

758
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be ahead of the game. Uh. Your daughter's gonna

759
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: start caring about fashion and clothing a little more. Um,

760
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: and boys just gonna go boy crazy, might go a

761
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: little boy crazy, but she's gonna be looking around saying,

762
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: where do I fit in? You know? Am I am

763
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I gonna follow the trends? Or am I gonna wear? Uh?

764
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: Am I gonna have my own style and just be

765
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: my own person. And where these weird clothes I might

766
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: get made fun of? Well supposedly like weird is like

767
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: where it's at these days with the kids. Did you

768
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: know that? Sure? So then we're normal clothes right and

769
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: less like a young Republican exactly. Um. Some potential pitfalls

770
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: here as your body is changing because of society's obsession

771
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: with the female form and getting bombarded every day with

772
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: how thin you have to be and how perfect your

773
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: body has to be. Uh, it is fraught with complications

774
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: as a young girl to look a certain way. And

775
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: this is where you can set yourself up for trouble

776
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: with eating disorders or if you're if you're not good

777
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: at expressing yourself, you have no outlet to doing like

778
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: self cutting and these bad things behind closed doors. Um,

779
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: all of that is is very sad, scary stuff, but um,

780
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: all of it can be overcome and it is all

781
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: very much treatable as long as you talk to your

782
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: parents about it to get their help they want to

783
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: help you, or somebody someone you trust. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah,

784
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: And I was looking into self cutting in particular. Um,

785
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: one of the it seems like if you learn to

786
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: express your emotions through something like that, that's it's tough

787
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: to shed that. Apparently, like fifty or sixty percent of

788
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: people who self cut as adults all started um at puberty,

789
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So that's that's not a healthy way to

790
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: express yourself for to get the rage out or whatever

791
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing that for. So you again

792
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: you have to be smart during this time too. Uh

793
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: you Uh, your daughter might be experimenting with masturbation early

794
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: on and thinking about sexy things. It's all very normal. Um,

795
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: even at a very very young age. Uh. There are

796
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: young girls as young as four and five years old

797
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: who find themselves simulating sex, like with their pillow in

798
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: their bed, with a stuffed animal. Like I've I've seen

799
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: it with my own two eyes, Mr. Bank. I don't

800
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: want to embarrass anyone in my family, but I've seen it.

801
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: Probably stop there, and it's uh for a parent. If

802
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: you've never seen that, it can be very Yeah, it

803
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: can be very disconcerting, I'm sure, but it's all super

804
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: normal and you don't have to worry about it. Um. No,

805
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: but that said you were not ready for sex when

806
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: you're going through puberty or even right after you emerge

807
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: from it. No, of course not. And that's not at

808
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: four and five. They don't even know what that is.

809
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're just uh, they know it feels good

810
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: and they're messing around. And uh, don't shame them, don't

811
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: make them feel like they're dirty or doing something bad. Uh.

812
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: If it you know, everything I read just says you know,

813
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: just sort of wait it out and it should eventually pass. Basically,

814
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: let it guess pass, yea or um, maybe if you

815
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: interrupt or like interrupt her to go do something fun,

816
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: play a game, um or. I even saw one advice

817
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: burst into the room just as a scary clown. That'll

818
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: stop it quick. Uh. One advice thing I saw said

819
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: to um sometimes to just if it's happening in front,

820
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: like you're all sitting around watching TV and you see

821
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: it's happening, then say, you know, would you like to

822
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: go to your room and have a look private time,

823
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: and then they'll come back ten minutes later and be

824
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: with the family again. Where did you see that advice?

825
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: It was in a on a parenting site. Huh, Well,

826
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: do you think it's bad advice? No, I'm just I'm surprised.

827
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: I thought you were doling that out yourself. No, of course,

828
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: I've never dealt with this, but I went to a

829
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: lot of because I couldn't find any medical advice except

830
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: for from parenting sites for doctors. Was that like, it's normal,

831
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: it's normal. It didn't go any further than that. Yeah,

832
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: basically the root of it all was don't shame them,

833
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: and uh, just let them do their thing. Yeah, I

834
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: mean it makes sense, all right. Should we finish up

835
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: like we did with the male puberty and talk about

836
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: some puberty rituals around the world. You know, we have

837
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: a future is like health coaches after this. I think

838
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: I have a feeling we we did pretty good here,

839
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: but also the feeling we're gonna hear from some people

840
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: that are like, you guys, you know you shouldn't say

841
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: this these days. Yeah, you know, like that's I've been

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Speaker 1: tense the entire episode because of that. Well, we we

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Speaker 1: tried to get it just right. We did, but I also,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're imparting some information here and heavy, heavy,

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Speaker 1: important information. I want to get it right, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you can't be at the leading edge of every word.

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Speaker 1: We can, you know, yes, we can, all right, the

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Speaker 1: female puberty rituals. There is a great history, especially pre

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Speaker 1: twentieth century, of UH seclusion at the beginning of monarchy,

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Speaker 1: taking a girl out of the tribe or out of

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Speaker 1: the village or out of wherever for a period of

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Speaker 1: a couple of days to a year or more, um

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Speaker 1: secluded away from everyone else. And I looked it up

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Speaker 1: and there's a couple of reasons they think sociologically, one

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Speaker 1: is to act as a social preparation where it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing because they get their secluded with their moms

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Speaker 1: and their aunts and they really say like all right,

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Speaker 1: well now we gotta start teaching you all these things.

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Speaker 1: And the other one was just superstition relating to blood

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Speaker 1: as ancient as it gets, or fearing um women who

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Speaker 1: are going through their menstrual cycle. Supernatural reasons um apparently, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I like this one. The Urubu cut poor in Brazil,

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Speaker 1: their tribe in Brazil. Um they when a girl goes

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Speaker 1: through monarchy, they cut her hair and then she can

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Speaker 1: Mary once it grows back to shoulder length. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting, like it's it's almost like a preternatural

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Speaker 1: understanding of the development that the body still has yet

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Speaker 1: to go through before she can you know Mary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. Uh. In Ghana, there are villages

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Speaker 1: that um for a few weeks, they separate the girl

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Speaker 1: from the village and then they give her instruction which

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, which is a good thing on

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Speaker 1: social mora, aids and sex said and courtship, and then

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Speaker 1: then they have a big celebration, which is really nice.

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Speaker 1: With Yeah, same with the Jewish community as of the

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Speaker 1: twentieth century. Um, with the advent of bot mitzvah's, which

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Speaker 1: is like a bar mitzvah for girls. Yeah, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't have them before the twentieth century. Yeah. And I

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Speaker 1: looked into other rituals and things, and almost every one

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Speaker 1: of them I saw we're sort of along those same lines,

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Speaker 1: which is, seclude them for a little while, teach them

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Speaker 1: about things, and then throw a big party. Uh. Did

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Speaker 1: you see the Apache one, the morning Star dance? When

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Speaker 1: an Apache girl goes through monarchy, Um, she's secluded from

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Speaker 1: the rest of the village for four days, goes through

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Speaker 1: this um basically a period of fasting, um, getting very

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Speaker 1: little sleep, and on the fourth day, while she's already

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Speaker 1: basically starving and sleep to probably, she does a dance

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Speaker 1: from sundown to sun up? Are you kidding me? And

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Speaker 1: um they there's a really neat national geographic video about

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Speaker 1: it where this girl is so excited because this is

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Speaker 1: like this marks the transition to womanhood for her, you know.

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Speaker 1: But um, she learns a lot about herself, her tribe

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Speaker 1: or history, um during this period because she's hanging out

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Speaker 1: with her you know, her mom and her grandmother and

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Speaker 1: just being taught all this stuff. Interesting. Yeah, it sounds

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. I saw some South American tribe. I think

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Speaker 1: that files the teeth into fangs. Why monarchy? Monarchy? Uh,

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Speaker 1: have you got anything else? I got nothing else? Man.

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Speaker 1: I hope we did something good here. I think we did.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about it. Uh. If you want to

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Speaker 1: I just tweeted at you, so you may have seen this,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to make sure you got my appreciation

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Speaker 1: loud and clear. Just finished listening to the Auto Tune episode, which,

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Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, was one of the best you've

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Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you both for being so conscious

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Speaker 1: In this should not be an extraordinary thing. Yet it was. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: that is from Noel. Do tweet. Thanks a lot. No, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's really nice of you. Try do your best. Yeah

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Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, do your best. Suddenly making it about us,

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Speaker 1: We didn't do that. Uh not this not this time, time,

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