1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. It is Thursday, April eighth, 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Thear of Our Lord twenty twenty one, coming to you 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: without a windscreen. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: So maybe a few more pumps this morning. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: I know you love that, Jordan, but hey, nevertheless, got 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: a loaded mail bag, got a lot to get to 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: and by the way, I want to lead it off 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: with this great job. We have surpassed by a significant margin. Now, 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: the two thousand mark on Instagram just kind of got 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: started on Instagram, so that's why the numbers solo. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: We will balloon that up in due time. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: But because we passed two thousand, it is time for 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: another Late Kickshow Owners Association. 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: Meeting to get those emails in. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: Enter that lottery Josh paid seven zero six at gmail 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: dot com or you can DM me on Instagram, on 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Twitter at Latekickjosh follow me on both of those platforms, 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: by the way, and we're gonna get that set. I 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: think we're going to probably do the drawing Sunday night, 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: so you got some time email me, dm me, just 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: say I want in. I'll put all the names in 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: the pot, we will stir that tumbler will draw about 24 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty names out of there, and then you 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: will be notified by Monday morning at the latest if 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: your name has been drawn, and we'll get that thing 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: set up. So we're really looking forward to that. Producer 28 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Jordan and I have some really good ideas for this 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: second time around, and we thank you for making that possible. Also, 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: if you're looking to get in on a zoom consultation 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: with me, looking to get in sports media, looking to 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: start your own YouTube channel, or maybe you already have 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: and you're just not getting the traction that you think 34 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: you should, or you want some ideas you want. 35 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: To start a podcast. 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Basically, you're working a normal nine to five and you 37 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: got that creative juice and you got that creative muscle 38 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: and you're not able to flex it right now and 39 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: you don't really know how to start. 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: That's why I do those consultations. 41 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you're already in the business, Maybe you're a sports 42 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: reporter in market two OZH three and you're looking to 43 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: move up and you want to talk to someone who's 44 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: been there before. That's why I do these. Josh paid 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: seven zero six at gmail dot com. Without further ado, 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: let's dive in this morning, Nick starts us off. He says, 47 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: if you're an NFL team in need of a wide 48 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: receiver and both DeVante Smith and Jalen Waddle are still 49 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: on the board, whom or as I prefer hoomst do 50 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: you choose? 51 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Nick? I don't want to disparage either one. 52 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Normally, my answer, like I grew up down in 53 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: the South, so there was always the Bow versus Herschel comparison, 54 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: and my answer was always you just take your pick 55 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: and I'll take whatever's left over. I'd be happy to 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: say that here. If you and I are drafting against 57 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: each other, you take your pick. I'll take whichever one's 58 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: left over. I'm not going against DeVante Smith ever in 59 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: any kind of comparative deal. By the way, if you 60 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: put Jamar Chase up there, I wouldn't go against DeVante 61 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: Smith there either. He just has everything I want. I 62 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: will never regret. Let me just put it this way. 63 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll never regret taking a shot on Davonte Smith. I 64 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: may very well regret not taking a shot on him. 65 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: So give me Davante Smith all day long. But again, 66 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: if I get quote unquote stuck with another one of 67 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: those two or three, that we mentioned. I'm fine with 68 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: that too, Isaac. Next up, now this is a good one. 69 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 70 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: So Isaac says, why does Kellen Mond keep getting more hype? 71 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: As an aggie, I always thought he got too much hate, 72 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: but he clearly held the team back from the next level. 73 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: But now the same people who were saying Kellen Mon 74 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: sucked and because of that, so does A and M 75 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: are talking about him being a potential first rounder. This 76 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: is fun, Isaac. So my first take is Kellen Mond 77 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: is not a first round quarterback. That doesn't mean he 78 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: won't get drafted first round. But when we're talking caliber, 79 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I never viewed I never viewed Kellen Mon as a 80 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: first round caliber quarterback. 81 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: So that's my personal feel on him. 82 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Thought he was really good for what A and M 83 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was trying to do, but now they've got to be 84 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: better at that position. Like he was a stabilizing force quarterback. 85 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Was never really a question you knew, for better or 86 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: for worse, what you were going to have there. Now 87 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: as far as A and M's concerned, hopefully it's time 88 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: and you're ready to take the next step with Haines 89 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: King that's later this year. We can talk about that 90 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: but as for Kellen Mind, you know what this extends to. 91 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: For me, Isaac, it extends to this kind of I 92 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's very counterintuitive, maybe even 93 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: hypocritical argument. And take that a lot of people have, 94 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: so they'll do exactly what you said. They'll trash Kellen 95 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Mond his entire career. Okay, it doesn't matter. It feels 96 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: like he was their ten years. So no matter how 97 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: long he's there, every year they'll say, Kellen Mond can't 98 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: win the big one, you can't win the division with 99 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Kellen Mind, you can't be a serious playoff contender with 100 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Kellen Mont. Okay, if that's your opinion, that's fine. Maybe 101 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: there were even layers of that that I'd agree with. 102 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna trash him, but I didn't think he 103 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: was an elite quarterback. Well that's fine, but you can't 104 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: go all the way to the bottom of the barrel 105 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: and trash the guy. But then look at Texas A 106 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: and M this year and say, oh, A and m's 107 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: going to struggle this year because they got to break 108 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: in a new quarterback. 109 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Well, which is it? 110 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Were they bad at quarterback and therefore by default upgrading 111 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Regardless of who wins the job or did they have 112 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: a great quarterback that they're having to now replace. You're 113 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: gonna hear that early and often in preview magazine season, 114 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Isaac and everyone else listening, not just with A and M, 115 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: but A and M's going to be a perfect example. 116 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: This year. 117 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna have the same folks who told you Kellen 118 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Mond was trash, They're now going to tell you A 119 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: and M's going to be trash because they don't have 120 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Kellen Mond anymore. Fascinating and there's zero, zero self awareness. 121 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: These people look themselves in the mirror in the morning, 122 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: they smile after they brush their teeth, and they like 123 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: what's looking back at them. 124 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: Fascinating world we live in. 125 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: Isaac also had another one, had two questions, and you 126 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: know it, since they were both good, I want to 127 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: get to both of them. 128 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: And Isaac' second question, as. 129 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 1: I stall as I pull it up here, he said, 130 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: why does everyone compare college football to the NFL, and 131 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: that like the NFL doesn't always have the same few 132 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: teams in the championship mix as well, Isaac, this is 133 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: a question that yours truly has asked several times. 134 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this. 135 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: So, yes, it is true the Patriots over the last 136 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: decade and a half, they've been consistently in that mix. 137 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: The Chiefs right now, they're going to be consistently in 138 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: that mix. But you know what, Let's say that wasn't 139 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: even the case. Let's say the NFL was a complete 140 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: jumbled mess. Every year everyone was going between six and 141 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: ten and ten and six, and it was just parody 142 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and parody and parody on top of parody. Even then, 143 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: it'd be ignorant to compare the NFL to college football. 144 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: But like you said, even with all the structure built 145 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: towards push everyone to the middle and built for parody, 146 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: you still get the cream that rises to the top 147 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL, even with all those checks and guards 148 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: in place. So imagine if you remove them, how much larger, 149 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: how wider the disparity is between good and bad, between 150 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: elite and poor. And then let's ask ourselves how stupid 151 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: it is to compare the NFL to college And really, 152 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: where the rubber meets the road here is you'll get 153 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, and there are these 154 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: two camps that form one camp. Let's say we're talking 155 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: about the college football playoff. One camp just believes we 156 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: should go off record, and if you're twelve and oh, 157 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: it does not matter who you played, because twelve and 158 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: oh will always be better than ten and two. But 159 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: my argument has always been, if you go twelve and 160 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: oh and you never play a team I have ranked 161 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: in the top sixty, and I go ten and two 162 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: and I played half a dozen teams ranked in the 163 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: top twenty five, which among us had the better year, 164 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: I would argue the ten and two team. And so 165 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: that to me is just basic logic. But there is 166 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: a crew out there, a sizeable crowd that cannot stomach that. 167 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: They could never They may be able to look at 168 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: eleven and one and say a ten and two teams 169 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: better than eleven and one maybe, but they could never 170 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: look at that two win gap ten and two versus 171 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: twelve and oh and never get their head beyond the well, 172 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: they're undefeated. They're undefeated. How can you be better than undefeated? 173 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how you can be the better team. 174 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: And record lies to you all the time at the 175 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: college level. But it's all an NFL based model. It's 176 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: all an NFL based logic system that you're using, and 177 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it's a pro sports model really that you're using to 178 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: apply there. In pro sports, you are what your record 179 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: says you are, because everyone's played comparable schedules, the softest 180 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and hardest schedule in the NFL, they are fractions apart 181 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: compared to college sports and college football. In college football, 182 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: they are grand canyons apart. And so yeah, Isaac, it 183 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way too, brother, Believe me. Jason 184 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: is up next, he said. I'm sitting here listening to 185 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: the last Late Kick Live you did, and you're talking 186 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: about Brian Kelly, Jeff Collins and the limitations they face, 187 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: and earlier you talked about Ryan Day. Well, I want 188 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: to know who you believe is the most underrated coach 189 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: in college football, who does the most with the least. 190 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: I think the answer here is probably Pat Fitzgerald. 191 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I've always really admired what he's able to do at Northwestern, 192 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: and I think obviously the next guy who is hot 193 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: on everyone's radar now is Matt Campbell. I still, even 194 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: with all the attention lately that Iowa State my cyclones 195 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: have gotten and Matt Campbell's gotten, I still really don't 196 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: know that people understand the magnitude of the effort that's 197 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: being put together there. We talked about this on the 198 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: show you mentioned, Late Kick Live. Think about a month ago. 199 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: I did a segment where I talked about how admired 200 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: that program is Iowa State, and how admired Matt Campbell 201 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: is as a coach. There are really no people out 202 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: there unless you're an Iowa fan, or maybe you're an 203 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: Oklahoma fan right now, so you know you have to 204 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: run up against them. There are really no people out 205 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: there who tell you, oh, I can't stand Iowa State. 206 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Who I hate Iowa State. Even the OU fans may 207 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: not hate him. That's different. That's a different ball game. 208 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: That's a rivalry. But I mean, there are very few 209 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech Hoky fans who say, you know a program 210 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: it really sticks under my. 211 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Cross, that Iowa State cyclone program. 212 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: No one thinks that everyone either is indifferent or they 213 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: like them. That is not the case in the coaching community. 214 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: That is not the case in the administrative community. And 215 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: I explained it to you, and I'll do it again 216 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: if you missed it. The reason why they are not 217 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: really liked is not a personality flaw or a character defect. 218 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the opposite. They've got all those things 219 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: in spades. Here's the problem. They have a fraction of 220 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: the resources that way more than a dozen other programs 221 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: who are inferior to them have. 222 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: They do not recruit well at all. 223 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: If you go by the twenty four to seven sports 224 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: team rankings, they're never in the top forty. Oftentimes they're 225 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: outside the top fifty. They don't have facilities that are 226 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: anywhere close to comparable to again, well over a dozen 227 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: programs that they're circling right now, they're just running circles 228 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: around them. Well, what do you think that makes that 229 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: administration at those resource wise superior schools look like? What 230 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: do you think it makes the coaches at those superior 231 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: resource schools look like? Makes them look like fools because 232 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: they've been telling people, well, you know this system, this 233 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: system's built to prop up the Alabamas and the Ohio 234 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: States and Clemsons. But it's just we're victimized by the system. 235 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: Well that's fine, but I'm giving you three times the 236 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: budget Iowa State has. We got twice the facilities. We 237 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: recruit infinitely better. You got everything at your disposal that 238 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: they don't have there, and yet they're still outperforming us. 239 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: Why isn't the system holding them down? And you know 240 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: what the answer to. 241 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: That is, crickets chirp, chirp, chirp. That's the answer. The 242 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: system isn't holding them down. 243 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: Bad hires and inferior athletic departments, that's what's holding a 244 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: lot of programs down. That's the reason a lot of 245 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: folks don't like Iowa State because they came to the 246 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: forefront and they said, hey, it's kind of like Roger Banister. 247 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, back back in the day, no one thought 248 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: a sub four minute mile was possible. Then he ran one, 249 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: and so everyone who had been going home and telling 250 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: their mom, mom, it's impossible to run a four minute mile, 251 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden mom looked at you and said, 252 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: work harder. And that's what Iowa State's forcing a lot 253 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: of people to do. 254 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: Work harder. Don't like that. Don't like that one bit, Trevor. 255 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Next up, what do you think is the best fight 256 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: song in all of college sports? I'm an LSU fan, 257 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: but I gotta say Tennessee's Rocky Top is it? 258 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: For me? Trevor. 259 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: You wouldn't get push back in and around Knoxville, but 260 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: around the rest of the sec people would just recoil. 261 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: It that notion. 262 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you why. If you've heard Rocky 263 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Top one time at a Tennessee game, you've heard it 264 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: a thousand times at a Tennessee game. The big complaint, 265 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: as far as I can tell around the South, and 266 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I get around quite a bit, the big complain about 267 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: Rocky Top is not the song in and of itself. 268 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: It is the frequency with which it is played. Essentially, 269 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: these days, every completed past warrants a playing of Rocky Top, 270 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: and boy, if you are a Florida fan, or if 271 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: you are a I don't know, a Georgia fan, man, 272 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: it wears on your nerves really quickly. Now I'm indifferent, 273 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and even I have felt this a time or two. 274 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Now it pales in comparison to how terrible it was 275 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: when Butch Jones was there and they had trash cans 276 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: on the sideline and they were pumping in all the 277 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of crowd noise and playing Little John every third down. 278 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Oh that was I would beg for Rocky Top in 279 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: lieu of what they were doing during that era. I 280 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: don't know what they did last year, and I don't 281 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: know what they're going to do under Josh Hypel. Hopefully 282 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: score is what they're going to do, so they have 283 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: a reason to play anything positive. But ma'am, I would 284 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: I'd go in an opposite direction, so it's not Rocky 285 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Top for me. My answer here is the USC fight Song. 286 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the title of it. 287 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't know the name. The USC fight Song's awesome. 288 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: The USC fight song is something I could see someone 289 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: fighting a war two, I could see someone scoring a 290 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: touchdown to makes no difference. I could see someone writing 291 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: a movie too. It's really really good, and it's like 292 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: three different songs in one. 293 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: It opens up, it's this big, grand regal. 294 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: It's like the beginning of a Spartan movie or I 295 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: guess a Trojan movie. But then they go into the 296 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: second part. 297 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: The mmmoom doom doom, doom doom doom doom doom doom doom. 298 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Love that part that sounds college to me. That is 299 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: like quintessential college football, big atmosphere, Saturday night, two minutes 300 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: to kick off, let's go. So you give me that 301 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: USC fight song and I'll be happy to let you 302 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: guys take the rest. Not that there are nother good 303 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: fight songs out there. But man, that usc fight song 304 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: hits a little bit different for me. 305 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: Oh Who's next? Man, we're rattling through them this morning. 306 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Who's next? 307 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: Clark is next? You know, Clark has a question. I 308 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: want to pause for just a second here. Clark has 309 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: a question that is not being asked right now cause 310 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: the topic that the question is about that is at 311 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: the forefront. The topic is, of course, in IL and 312 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: paying players. Everyone seems to be talking about that in 313 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: some shape, form or fashion these days. 314 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: But Clark's not asking that. Clark's asking it as if it's. 315 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: A formality, which it probably is, and it's a really 316 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: good one that I think a lot of people, maybe 317 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: on the four TUITU side of this compensation deal, are 318 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: going to have to come to terms with And we'll 319 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: talk about it right after this. So here's Clark's question. 320 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: Think about this now. He said, if college athletes are 321 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: able to make money off their name, image and likeness, 322 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: and or also be paid by the university for their services, 323 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: will they be subject to more criticism since they're no 324 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: longer amateurs? What do you think about that? I think 325 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: we could have varying opinions on this. I think there's 326 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: one camp that would say, well, they're not amateurs. Now, really, 327 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: if you think about it, that's fine. But the fact 328 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: of the matter is you and I both know a 329 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: college middle linebacker is handled in public discourse way differently 330 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: than the middle linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles. There is 331 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: a clear line of delineation. One's a pro, one's an amateur. 332 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: You know that exists as well as I do. You 333 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: would never trash the Northwestern middle linebacker like you with 334 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the Bears middle linebacker. But what is it because of Well, 335 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: it's because of amateur status, right versus professional status. Well, 336 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, what Clark's asking is, these guys 337 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: aren't signing multi million dollar deals, and they're not signing 338 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: four years, forty two million with twenty of it guaranteed. 339 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: They're not signing anything like that. But they're going to 340 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: sign I don't know, a thirty thousand dollars endorsement deal here, 341 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: or maybe the university has given them eleven five hundred 342 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: dollars a year, whatever the case may be. What Clark 343 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: is saying is, all of a sudden, if it's out 344 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: there in the open and everyone knows that the wide 345 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: receiver for North Carolina is making thirty eight thousand. 346 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Dollars this year for playing football. There well, all of 347 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: a sudden, hey man, maybe he's making more than me. 348 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: And so all of a sudden, I'm looking at him 349 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: and I'm saying he's a pro. He's not an amateur anymore. 350 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: And say, you know what, when I get on my 351 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: message board, or when I get on my call in 352 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: talk show, or when I talk about him on Twitter, 353 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about him with the exact same 354 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh let's say passion for lack of a better adjective, 355 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna talk about him the exact same way 356 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: I would the Carolina Panthers wide receiver. You know why, 357 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: because to me now they're both pros. I'm not telling you, Clark, 358 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: that will be my ideology. In fact, it never will. 359 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: And I think most people publicly, if you were to 360 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: get him on the record, they'd say the same thing 361 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They'd say, oh, there's still gonna be college players. 362 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna treat him differently. But I think the reality 363 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: is there is a lot of validity if he's to 364 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: the sentiment behind what you're asking here. 365 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: I do think it's going to change the dynamic. 366 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how much it's gonna change, but I 367 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: do think it's going to change the dynamic a little bit. 368 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: How much it does, I think that's where the bigger 369 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: question lies. But you're gonna have a lot of folks 370 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: right or wrong, indifferent on it, right wrong. I don't 371 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: really care what your opinion is at this very moment 372 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: because I'm not here to debate it. But gardless of 373 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: what opinion is, there're gonna be people out there rubbed 374 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: the wrong way by college kids getting paid again. I 375 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: know you're yelling right now. Not you Clark, I know you, 376 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: but a lot of you are yelling right now. I 377 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: don't care. We could debate that another day, but there 378 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: will be a crowd that looks at it and says, 379 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm rubbed the wrong way by them making money. But 380 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm still gonna watch. I'm not turned 381 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: off by the sport. I'm turned off by the erosion 382 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: of the amateur model and the amateur athlete, the idea 383 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: of one. So I don't view them the same way. 384 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Still watch them, but I view them different, and I'm 385 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna treat them different. 386 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: That's gonna happen. I feel of believe that's going to happen. 387 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: Onward we roll here. Gabe up next. 388 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: He said, you basically said recently, Jeremy Pruitt was given 389 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: too much control over the Tennessee program. But yet one 390 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons coaches keep struggling at Texas is because 391 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: they are not given enough control. Please help me understand 392 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: exactly what Prewitt should not have been given control over 393 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and what Texas coaches should have control over. So this 394 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: is kind of an Apple's Orange thing because if you 395 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: view this as there being one hundred percent of total 396 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: possible control, that's of the footballs aspect. So what I'm 397 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: talking about with Sark and with guys at Texas is 398 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're not going to walk in 399 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: there and not be able to control what their critical 400 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: factors for a safety that they recruit are. 401 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: They control that. 402 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about is on somewhat a more macro level, 403 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: but a level nonetheless that intimately involves football. There are 404 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: decisions that are in some cases taken out of your 405 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: hands at Texas. I'll give you an example when Mike 406 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: Stoops was a guy that Sark wanted to hire when 407 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: he got to Texas and then that fell through. If 408 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: anyone really believes that sark just went to bed one 409 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: night and stared at his ceiling for twenty minutes before 410 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: he went to sleep and said, you know, in second thought, 411 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to bring Mike Stoops in here. 412 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: You're crazy. 413 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And so obviously someone stepped in, someone interceded there, or 414 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: maybe several someones, whatever the case may be. That is 415 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: one example already in a very very short time of 416 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian not having full control and full autonomy to 417 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: do what he wants to do as the Texas head coach. 418 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: How it bears itself out with their on field product, 419 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: I don't know that remains to be seen. But with 420 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Jeremy Prewitt, what I talked about with him was Jeremy 421 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: Prewitt was not ready to control all aspects of a program. 422 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: And you look at what they got popped for, and 423 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: you look at how reckless they were, and that entire 424 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: apparatus that you have in place there where you've got coaches, 425 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: you've got people inside your athletic department involved in nefarious activity. 426 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 427 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: It's not about the ethical side of it, because I'm 428 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: not sitting here telling you, and it was Tennessee, and 429 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: ain't no one else out there besides Tennessee it's ever 430 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: paid a football player. I'm not telling you that I'm 431 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: not here to go down that road. What I'm telling 432 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you is there is a big. 433 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Big difference. Guys and girls. 434 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: If you're driving on the road right now and you're 435 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: in a sixty five and let's say there's a cop 436 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: right behind you, you know you can go seventy one. 437 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: You know you can float sixty nine seventy miles an hour, 438 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: and with that cop right behind you, it's going to 439 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: be fine. But if someone drives past both of you 440 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: with their sun roof open and a middle finger up 441 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: and out that window and they're doing ninety three, that's 442 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: what's about to happen to them. Yeah, yeah, you're exactly 443 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: right now. Technically you're both speeding. But one of them 444 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: just slapped an officer in the face, essentially, and the 445 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: other one said, all right, I get you there. We 446 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: all understand what the deal is here. Respect the authority. 447 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a little over sixty five because 448 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: we all know that's a ridiculous number. But I'm not 449 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: going to go seventy nine or eighty, and then the 450 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: other guy didn't care good Jeremy Prewitt. Essentially, whether he 451 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: was behind the wheel or not, he is the leader 452 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: of the program, so he is, for all intents and. 453 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 2: Purposes, the driver. He was allowing that orange vehicle to 454 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: go ninety three right past the cop middle finger out 455 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: the sun roof. You can't have that happen. 456 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: And what that comes down to, what it really boils 457 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: down to, is a lack of experience, is a lack 458 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: of an understanding and know how of how all the 459 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: critical factors of your operation work. I'm not saying he 460 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: forgot how to coach linebackers. 461 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he. 462 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Forgot how to install a defense or forgot how to recruit. 463 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: But there were some things as a first time head 464 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: coach Jeremy Prude had never done before that all of 465 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: a sudden he had to do and he looked around 466 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: and there wasn't really any help. He had to cast 467 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the vision, and he cast the wrong one, or he 468 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: allowed the wrong one to be cast in lieu of him. 469 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: Casting the right one. Let's say. So it got to 470 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: be a mess there. 471 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: But I you know, I think broad strokes purposes, Yeah, 472 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: that question makes sense gay, but really it's a case 473 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: by case. It's also a different reality in Knoxville than 474 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: it is in Austin. It's a different reality in Fayetville, 475 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: Arkansas than it is in Gainesville. It's just it's one 476 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: of the things I love about college. But you got 477 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: to be really careful about it too, because every corner 478 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: of the country is unique. The cultures are different, the 479 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: people are different, and so there's a way that you 480 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: have to tailor yourself. That's why culture is so much 481 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: more important in college when it comes to hiring a 482 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: head coach. In the NFL, you can coach the LA Rams, 483 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: you can coach the Chicago Bears, you can coach Atlanta Falcons. 484 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: They're just NFL jobs. I mean, buy and large, very 485 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: minor discrepancies. They're just in NFL jobs. But in college, man, 486 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: you go coach UCLA and then I take you and 487 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I put you as the head coach at Auburn. Those 488 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: are different planets. They might as well be different universes. 489 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: And so you got to get guys in there who 490 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: get it. They understand the fabric, they fit, they weave 491 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: themselves into the fabric, and they get how to speak 492 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: the language there, they get how to grease the wheels there, 493 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: and they're the right person to drive the boat. Not 494 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: everyone who's a great coordinator is ready to do that. 495 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: We found out the hard way about Jeremy Pruett. We're 496 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: about to find out the hard way about Steve Sarkizan. 497 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: Hopefully the results are different for the sake of Texas 498 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: fans and listeners. Are a little bit shorter today, but really, 499 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: if you think about it, I got how many quote one, two, three, four, five, six, 500 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: seven eight. We I got ten questions in which is 501 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: more than we normally get. I just made it a 502 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: point to go through them quicker today. In Jordan, I'll 503 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: be darned if we are already done. So hey, that's 504 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: just a sign to you you need to flood me 505 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: with more questions. Joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com, 506 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter or Instagram at late kick Josh, make sure 507 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: you're following me on both of those platforms. We'll get 508 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: this stink cut. We'll get it out to you in 509 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: the meantime. For producer Jordan, I'm Josh Pate. Thanks so 510 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: much for listening. Have yourselves a great day.