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Speaker 1: I was introduced to Zarna Garg recently at a holiday party,

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Speaker 1: and we immediately decided that we needed to sit down

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Speaker 1: for a talk, and so we are here. Zarna is

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Speaker 1: an unusual figure in the comedy world. Trained as a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: she raised three children on the Upper East Side of

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Speaker 1: Manhattan before ever thinking about doing comedy at age forty four,

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Speaker 1: and now she is a best selling memoir, hit television shows,

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Speaker 1: and viral social media videos. Her memoir This American Woman

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Speaker 1: is a New York Times bestseller and a top Amazon pick.

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Speaker 1: We'll explore that book and more. Welcome to my podcast, Sarna.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Martha. I can't believe I'm beer. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you look very pretty. She has a beautiful white

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Speaker 1: cardigan with silver wings and a white skirt. What do

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Speaker 1: you call that kind of dress?

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Speaker 2: It's a silver Archemy's. It's an Indian celv archamy. So

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Speaker 2: it's a long tunic. What in America you would call

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Speaker 2: it too long? With these fitted cigarette pants in the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I see what color pants do you have on?

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Speaker 2: Off? Fight the whole time because I know you don't

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Speaker 2: like primary colors too much. Mindful, no reds, no bright purples.

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Speaker 1: Please. Well, your story is really extraordinary. I discovered you

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Speaker 1: on Instagram one day and you were so funny. And

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Speaker 1: then I look back and back and back and back

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Speaker 1: and all your stuff and oh my gosh, you are hysterical.

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Speaker 1: And then when I read up about you and then

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Speaker 1: met you, I thought, here, this is somebody I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to know, I want to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to be funny though.

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Speaker 1: No, you are you are who you are. I ask

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Speaker 1: every word that has come out of her mouth so

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Speaker 1: far in our little meeting here in the podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. It's all funny, but we're trying to.

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Speaker 2: Be serious out here, Like I was out there giving

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Speaker 2: serious life advice to people and not understanding why no

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Speaker 2: one was taking me seriously.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to hear a little bit. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to get too in your early life because it

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Speaker 1: sounds pretty sad, but tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: that growing up in Mumbai.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in wealth. I grew up in a

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Speaker 2: lot of wealth. So, like you know, that's the first

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Speaker 2: thing when people think of India and growing up in

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Speaker 2: India in America, they assume that people are poor, and

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Speaker 2: I was watching American sitcoms in real time.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I don't think of my life as a sad life.

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Speaker 2: Good There was so much good, including my dad, who

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Speaker 2: ended up being a little psychotic, and we have that

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Speaker 2: somewhat in common. He made me who I am. He

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Speaker 2: was the one who originally insisted that I learned English,

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Speaker 2: because he would walk around the house and say, all

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Speaker 2: my kids will learn English. It is the language of success.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we had tutors all day long, or

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Speaker 2: because he didn't even trust the schools. He was like,

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Speaker 2: out of material and they would be like, watch an

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Speaker 3: So you watched TV in Englis Yeah, or read Archie's comics,

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Speaker 3: or read like British novelist remember Archie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh it was one of my favorite comic books.

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Speaker 2: Archie's changed my life because I remember when my dad

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Speaker 2: was like, you need to get married, which is a

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Speaker 1: Describe Archie the Redhead.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, he's a little bit of a wimp.

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Speaker 2: In the end, I think it was annoying in hindsight,

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Speaker 1: He wasn't nerdy even he was just started annoying.

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Speaker 2: And then he had these women pining for him. Now,

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Speaker 2: in hindsight, we were like, what were we all thinking?

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Speaker 2: What is so stupid? But he changed my life. I

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Speaker 1: Is that alive?

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Speaker 2: He passed twenty years ago. I lost my whole family

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Speaker 2: because a month ago I won the Instagram Rings Award,

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Speaker 2: which is the Oscars of Instagram. Martha, I'm Indian. I

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Speaker 2: did not win the Nobel Price. I did not win

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Speaker 2: the bullets are not the math Olympia. I'm the best

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Speaker 2: have done to my father if he was alive?

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Speaker 1: For his sensibility?

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Speaker 2: Why does the universe torture myself? I'm glad he's resting well.

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Speaker 1: No, I bet he would be proud of you too,

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Speaker 1: because you can take the every day and make it funny,

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Speaker 1: don't take it too seriously, and you make people laugh.

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Speaker 1: I once read about a man in India that is

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Speaker 1: Is that true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's laughing clubs. Yeah, my dad was a member.

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Speaker 1: Oh he was did he did?

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Speaker 2: He Jewish? They go together and they just they laugh outdoors.

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Speaker 1: Outdoors, and then the noise becomes unbearable.

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Speaker 2: But it's like contagious.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you don't I think, but I think that's nice.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of I love the idea of a laughing club.

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Speaker 1: But you ran away from home at fourteen or something. Why?

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Speaker 2: Because my mom passed suddenly when I was fourteen and change,

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Speaker 2: It was not like it wasn't this big. It was

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Speaker 2: He had found a really rich but in the arranged setting,

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Speaker 2: and I think he was tired. He was like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: You went to America, But my sister lived here, my

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Speaker 2: sister who had been arranged by him earlier to a doctor, obviously,

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Speaker 2: maybe I should have gotten your daughter married. No, but

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Speaker 2: I'm looking. I am looking. I know, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doctor Bonasali is my partner in skincare, and

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Speaker 1: here I am matchmaking. We have a very beautiful daughter

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Speaker 2: She's not a doctor. But you're not dumb.

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Speaker 1: She's okay, No, she looks and she's gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: She's okay. You haven't seen my son yet. You haven't

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Speaker 1: Oh he's doctor Bona Sally Rich enough for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of all, he's a doctor. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: right there, that's like, and he's nice, he's really nice. Nice.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to let him listen to this podcast

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Speaker 2: Oh no, he knows imis you have you talked about

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Speaker 2: it already? No, but I promise you he's an Indian

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Speaker 2: doctor who's single. We're not the world's first aunties who

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Speaker 2: like proposed something like this. He's probably getting a proposal

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Speaker 2: a minute.

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Speaker 1: So you came to America. You went to Ohio? Yes,

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Speaker 1: and what did you learn in Ohio?

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Speaker 2: It is there is a lot of black ice. I

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Speaker 2: lived in fear. I remember I got there. I was like,

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Speaker 2: where are all the people? Because you know, you go

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Speaker 2: from Mumbai, which is like to but also so much

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Speaker 2: very sweet, and I was like, where is everybody? And

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Speaker 2: the year I came to America, you know who was

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Speaker 2: And I was like, this is what they do in

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So you went to college? Which college?

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Speaker 2: University of Akron Because my sister lived there. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: like again here in America, parents will optimize, like where's

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Speaker 1: And then you went to law school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, also in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I want how old were you when you finished law school?

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Speaker 2: I was twenty two, twenty one. I went through it

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Speaker 2: very fast. Wow, I was very scared. I mean, my

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Speaker 2: And it's great to have rich relatives. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: In your book, and Zarna has this fantastic book on

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Speaker 1: the New York Times Best Solo List, This American Woman.

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Speaker 1: And in that book you printed the ad that appeared

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Speaker 1: and was noticed by a lot of people. You online

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Speaker 1: and ad to find a husband. Yes, okay, so did

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Speaker 1: you try dating sites?

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Speaker 2: There were no dating sites in nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: There were no apps, there was no iPhone. It was

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Speaker 1: And it was so short time ago. Doesn't it seem

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Speaker 2: There was no Google to read the.

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Speaker 1: Ad for us. Where did you post this?

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Speaker 2: It was like the Indian classifieds, but online. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: we were used to Indian classifieds and newspapers, but people

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Speaker 2: would post for their sons and daughters or whatever. But

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Speaker 2: this was the first time I saw it online. And

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Speaker 2: because I didn't have a parent speaking for me, I

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Speaker 2: put an ad out for myself.

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Speaker 1: So please read that.

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Speaker 2: I know now in hindsight that I was one of

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Speaker 2: the first, if not they first, to put woman to

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Speaker 2: put an ad out for herself. But this was the ad,

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Speaker 2: and of course I wrote it very sincerely. To some

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Speaker 2: I am too short or too plump, too dark, or

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Speaker 2: too argumentative, But enough about me. This is what I

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Speaker 2: need from you. A husband and a partner. Somebody who

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Speaker 2: is ambitious but not ruthless, confident but not arrogant, and

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Speaker 2: humble but not timid. Most of all, he is honest.

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Speaker 2: I am on a mission to build a very successful life,

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Speaker 2: and you must be ready to go with me. Only

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Speaker 2: contact me if you want to get married. No friends

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Speaker 2: in all caps with exclamation. Kindly include your most recent

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Speaker 2: recent tax returns and medical records.

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Speaker 1: So how many people? How many people contact? Oh reals,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even lying, and you sifted through all that thuff.

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Speaker 2: They all flew to Cleveland, made me yeah, because I

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Speaker 2: didn't I didn't have the money to go anywhere. So

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Speaker 2: I found a McDonald's in Cleveland that had a big

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Speaker 2: it felt safe. And they all flew in to meet me.

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Speaker 1: You said, meet me at the McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: I'd be like, yeah, if you're interested. I mean back

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Speaker 2: You know what you're doing much more as you get older.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I repurpose it as is a real I write it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Yeah, I have a whole crew. I

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Speaker 2: The way I get everything done is by like hounding, persisting,

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Speaker 2: I am with three Arts, and they're great. They're great, Like, okay,

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Speaker 2: And we started like attacking on all fronts. They get dip.

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Speaker 1: Well, those are two very receptive ladies anyway, That's why

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Speaker 2: And why you have to be so precious? The guys

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Speaker 2: Relax with your like, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Who's opening for you?

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Speaker 2: Now? I have a phenomenal opener who travels with me.

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Speaker 2: She's a single mom, she has MS, but she's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Clubs in New York were not willing to give her

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Speaker 2: You know how many women I've helped get on a stage.

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Speaker 1: I love your sense of humor. Oh my gosh, So

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Speaker 1: have you ever bombed?

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Speaker 1: I don't thirty years ago. Could you have been you

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: many if you have not seen the you of Zarni

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Speaker 2: Universal? Of course the mother in law? Of course, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Well, not openly the way I do it. So there

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Speaker 2: And it's easier to malign Donald Trump or to like

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Speaker 1: Do you ever malign your mother.

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Speaker 2: About My mother passed early. But people just don't because culturally,

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Speaker 2: let me help you, because culturally that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: But I cut my teeth in New York. I'm a

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Speaker 1: I actually loved my mother in law really. Yeah. She

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Speaker 1: I loved her. I talked to her every day, No,

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Speaker 1: Of course, she of.

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Speaker 1: But she was a good advisor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she knew how to make you feel bad.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, she didn't want me to feel so bad. No,

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Speaker 2: Was she not intimidated by your perfectionism? I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: She didn't cook. She never had a dinner in her house.

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Speaker 1: Do you know I never once ate at home? They

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Speaker 2: Are you joking?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever question that?

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Speaker 1: That's the way they were they started when they got married.

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Speaker 1: that building when the Pevion restaurant was in that building.

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Speaker 1: So breakfast came up from the Peveon, lunch came up

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Speaker 1: from the Peveon in the elevator, and dinner if they

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Speaker 1: wanted to, they could eat the Pevion food in their apartment,

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Speaker 1: but they usually went down to the Peveon to eat.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever host them for dinner?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Gosh all the time?

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Speaker 2: Was she not embarrassed? No, she just took it in

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Speaker 2: and she's like, okay for my daughter in law.

447
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Speaker 1: They were, that's what they did.

448
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Speaker 2: It's unending. These people, they're bottomless bits of taking.

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Speaker 1: Oh brother, I actually liked her.

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Speaker 2: But I will tell you one topic that never resonates,

451
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Speaker 2: which is so interesting. The father in law never works.

452
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Speaker 2: If I say I have so many jokes about my

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Speaker 2: father in law because my father in law is a

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Speaker 2: funny carric.

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Speaker 1: You can't make fun of You can't make fun of them,

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Speaker 1: you nobo.

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Speaker 2: The audience doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: You say I owe my father and their.

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Speaker 1: Father in law paid for everything, and they don't want

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Speaker 1: to laugh at him. No, yeah, exactly, that's what the

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Speaker 1: real story is. He paid for everything. And now in America,

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Speaker 1: sometimes the mother in law pays for everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh it does. I mean my shows a lot of

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Speaker 2: mother in laws bring their daughter in laws and I

466
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Speaker 2: swear they're looking at them. They want to see if

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Speaker 2: she's gonna smile.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what's the process for creating a monologue? If

469
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Speaker 1: an outline? Yeah, I love comics. I think comics are amazing.

470
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Speaker 1: But Robin Williams, he came on my show a few

471
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Speaker 1: times that that brain you have, that kind of brain,

472
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Speaker 1: of course, that fast brain that never stops for one second,

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Speaker 1: seeing the next line, seeing the next story, the next scenario.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a little bit of an addiction because anything

475
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Speaker 2: happens like my daughter. You have a daughter, I have

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Speaker 2: a daughter. Something crazy will happen in her life and

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Speaker 2: she'll start crying and my mind is immediately like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, this is a joke. I gotta write this down. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 2: she's falling apart, but like she falls about every day.

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Speaker 2: There's also that.

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Speaker 1: Your beauty daughter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like a dramatic an.

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Speaker 1: Issue does green eyes crying?

484
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, every day is a very beautiful daughter.

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Speaker 1: What's your daughter's name, Zoya.

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Speaker 2: There was another mistake start zoe z I Standford graduation,

487
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Speaker 2: eight hundred kids before her. I wanted to shoot myself.

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Speaker 1: I was like, when did you go on Instagram?

489
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Speaker 2: Right during COVID. I've just taken off as a comic,

490
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Speaker 2: just taken. I signed my first show at Caroline's on Broadway,

491
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Speaker 2: a club that was iconic course and just closed post COVID.

492
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Speaker 2: But Caroline Hirsch, the owner of the club, said to me,

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Speaker 2: you headline a show, And at the time I was

494
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Speaker 2: an open mic. I was a me, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I'm doing. No, you two, whatever this is. I

496
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Speaker 2: remember the booker there for Lewis said to me, whatever

497
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Speaker 2: this is. People will pay money for pointing at me.

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Speaker 1: How old are you know? Fifty?

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Speaker 2: No, I was forty five. It was a year into

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Speaker 2: comm How old are you now, I'm fifty now, yeah, fifty.

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Speaker 1: So it's only five years and you've become a world

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Speaker 1: sensation in a very short time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm also manic in that way, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, once I want to do it, I'm going

505
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Speaker 2: to get it done. It was the same when I

506
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Speaker 2: wanted to meet my husband. It was when I raised

507
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Speaker 2: my kids. My kids only applied to one college each,

508
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Speaker 2: Stanford and Cornell because that's where they could go. We

509
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Speaker 2: made a plan, and we stuck to it. We executed it.

510
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Speaker 2: It's it's a it's an illness that I can't even control.

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Speaker 1: How many days a year do you travel?

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Speaker 2: Three? Four days of a week. Thank God, that's how

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Speaker 2: we stay me this week Raleigh, North Carolina. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: then how many shows?

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Speaker 1: How many shows?

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Speaker 2: Six shows in Raleigh? We just added our seventh. Everything

517
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Speaker 2: is sold out. Then we're going to Menlo Park. I

518
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Speaker 2: do a lot of tech companies private events. Yeah, yeah,

519
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Speaker 2: because you know they're all Indian or engineers. What they

520
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Speaker 2: love they love getting roasted by me. And a lot

521
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Speaker 2: of them are going to get roasted because you know

522
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Speaker 2: they're all about loser jobs. Because I.

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Speaker 3: Was going to kill the men who made it my

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Speaker 3: check better clear force before you leave.

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Speaker 2: But I'm doing that. I'm in Silicon Valley, I'm in

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Speaker 2: jan Jose. Then we're in Houston where everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, something I do want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about AI because it interests me tremendously. Now, I was

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Speaker 1: sitting in my Tesla car. I still drive it because

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Speaker 1: I actually liked the car. You know, el Elon's a

531
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Speaker 1: little weird, but but the car is interesting, and I

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Speaker 1: have a sort of newish one with a big screen

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Speaker 1: in it. All of a sudden, and my driver was driving,

534
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Speaker 1: I sit in the front seat, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Grok says, Hi, Martha, how are you? I haven't even

536
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Speaker 1: signed up for Grok? But the groc Is mister is

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Speaker 1: mister Elon Musk's AI voice, and I think it's his persona.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I said to Grog, I said, oh, hi, are

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Speaker 1: you listening to me? And he said, I hear everything

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Speaker 1: you see in your own car. So where is my

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Speaker 1: stuff that I'm talking about going from? Mister Grock? Where

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Speaker 1: is it going? You know what this was very intrusive.

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Speaker 2: It is very intrusive.

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Speaker 1: You have you have you tried crock at all?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you have. But I'm also a TikToker, and I like,

547
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: here's the thing. You and I have both content creators.

548
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Speaker 2: Me personally, I say, take it off, take it Chanese Army.

549
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Speaker 2: I hope you're listening. Do you imagine how many?

550
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Speaker 1: But I'm not saying I'm not worried about what I'm

551
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Speaker 1: saying that going anywhere in particular. But I'm just concerned

552
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Speaker 1: that it really is listening to me.

553
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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy and what's upsetting millions of Indian

554
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Speaker 2: engineers and the best things done by a guy named Elon?

555
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Speaker 2: What are my people doing out there.

556
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Speaker 1: From South Africa?

557
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Speaker 2: How is it that a guy named Mark and Elon

558
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Speaker 2: and Sam are running the whole of the tech industry

559
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Speaker 2: when India is producing the most engineers.

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Speaker 1: Isn't Microsoft run by Indian?

561
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Speaker 2: But he didn't invent it? Was Bill?

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Speaker 1: No, but he knows a lot.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what it is. We're not We're amazing

564
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Speaker 2: execution people. Were not the idea people and your educators too, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but where are our ideas?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: There should have been like an Indian Twitter. Where is it?

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Speaker 1: There was? It never was developed?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I might have to work on it.

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Speaker 1: Twitter wasn't so good anyway. I actually like Twitter a

571
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Speaker 1: lot better than X.

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Speaker 2: I don't use it, but no, okay, it's X feels

573
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Speaker 2: like like a bro heavy, like all the men like

574
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Speaker 2: to yell at each other politicians.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't use that. And they also lie

576
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Speaker 1: on it a lot.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the whole thing is a lie. But Judgibt lies too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, I tried. I tried chat

579
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Speaker 1: gipch all day long because I want to see when

580
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Speaker 1: it will get to be accurate.

581
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Speaker 2: And you're trying to play mind games with Judge.

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Speaker 1: I am, I am, I'm trying to get it to

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Speaker 1: be more accurate. I had to ask many times how

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Speaker 1: long exactly is Lake Powell, which is the great big

585
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Speaker 1: lake in Arizona where I just was, what is the coastline?

586
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Speaker 1: How long exactly is? I had to ask it at

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Speaker 1: least ten times before I got it somewhat accurate answer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, how intelligent is that? Intelligence?

589
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: That's not good? Um, not good yet?

590
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Speaker 2: We could have use our old school Britannica encyclopedia in

591
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Speaker 2: just one turn of the page. Yeah, it is. It's

592
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Speaker 2: like it's jadgy, but it's getting there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's getting there, but.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's gonna get a little sad.

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Speaker 2: It's also supportive. Any question you asked, Like, that's a

596
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Speaker 2: great question.

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Speaker 1: The head of Microsoft was at a conference I was

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Speaker 1: at and he was telling me how it's going to

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Speaker 1: happen in the next two years. We will be surprised

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Speaker 1: at the great advancements of AI. And as you said,

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Speaker 1: many people are not going to be necessary.

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Speaker 2: I mean I can make a list many were not

603
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Speaker 2: right now, you and I could come to come up

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Speaker 2: with a list of people.

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Speaker 1: Which comedians you like to be with the most?

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Speaker 2: Who's I mean, I love them all. I love watching

607
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Speaker 2: comic And I learned that I'm an obsessive learner that way, Yeah,

608
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: which is kind of why I move fast, like when

609
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

610
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Speaker 1: The speed of lightning.

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Speaker 2: I would say, I mean, it's a mental thing I

612
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Speaker 2: have to figure out.

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Speaker 1: So what did you learn from Tina feg.

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Speaker 2: That work can be your obsession. She's obsessed, that she

615
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: looks sweet, like don't go by that she is a shark,

616
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: and she her standards are not compromised, like zero level,

617
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: zero room for error, and her and Amy together I

618
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: learned what actually bittersweet observation. I grew up in a

619
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Speaker 2: generation and you and I know family, business and pleasure

620
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Speaker 2: don't mix. That's what I grew up here. Like, if

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Speaker 2: you're doing business, you're doing business. These two built massive

622
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Speaker 2: businesses being best friends and working with each other. It

623
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Speaker 2: was the first time I was like, how far could

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Speaker 2: I have gone if I had a Tina or an

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Speaker 2: Amy in my life?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you still have long way to go.

627
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm always on the look. I think

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Speaker 2: this is why I love working with other women, learning

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Speaker 2: from them, even being in their presence. I think what

630
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Speaker 2: the two of them together, even though they built their

631
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Speaker 2: individual companies, I think the friendship one propelled the other.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're lucky. They're lucky.

633
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Speaker 2: They're very lucky, and they're both very gifted. Even Amy,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, what do you mean? Even she hears

635
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Speaker 2: that because people assume that Tina. People know, Okay, she's

636
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Speaker 2: a very serious writer and all of that. Amy is

637
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Speaker 2: more affable, Like Amy is more warm and like she'll

638
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Speaker 2: be like, hi, are you know? Tina sometimes won't even

639
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: do all of that. But Amy is a business shark

640
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: like no other, an extreme integrity like she. You know,

641
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Speaker 2: I have looked at look at the back of my book.

642
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: I've got Tina Fey, I've got Amy.

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Speaker 1: Even though he is the puttiest health person on earth.

644
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Speaker 2: But that's kind of Lily is saying. This is but

645
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: these guys I learned from them that, you know, you

646
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: can have fun and still build a huge, humongous business.

647
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: They are traveling with them. I was like, this is

648
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Speaker 2: a job, because Indian people don't really think of professions

649
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: as fun. The more you cry, the better are you.

650
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Speaker 1: Have you worked on any major feature films?

651
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Speaker 2: Not a major I did an indie film which is

652
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Speaker 2: one of the world's first South Asian gay rom coms,

653
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: and it's It did very well. It made a ton

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Speaker 2: of money, because all my projects make money, That's what

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Speaker 2: I do. But when that movie came to me, I

656
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Speaker 2: originally declined it because my son in the movie was

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Speaker 2: gay and he was dating a white guy. And I

658
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: told my director, I was like, that's too many problems

659
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: already for this woman. You gotta fix something, so just

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Speaker 2: done is now a doctor? I was like, you can't, Like,

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Speaker 2: I can't even put myself in her shoes, Like what

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Speaker 2: am I gonna say that?

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Speaker 1: Then you're a good editor too, Oh my gosh, what

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Speaker 1: did you hope to accomplish writing this book at such

665
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Speaker 1: a young age. I mean, this is almost very out

666
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Speaker 1: of biographical.

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Speaker 2: I wrote it so people know that they two can

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Speaker 2: do whatever they want. I wrote it in the spirit

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Speaker 2: of I was answering a million emails a day. How

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Speaker 2: do I get started? I'm so scared, you know, And

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00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: every day I was like, you know, let me help you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is answering.

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Speaker 2: This is it's it's not an order. It's not a

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Speaker 2: biographical dump of my life in that way. It's more

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00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: a story of my successes and failures. In fact, deep

676
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: dive on my failures. So people know that if I

677
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Speaker 2: can do look at me, I'm a wreck, a complete

678
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: wreck over here. Not really, no, I mean like this

679
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: is I don't know what I'm doing. What am I doing?

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Speaker 2: Sitting with Martha Stewart right.

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Speaker 1: Now having a good time, I hope, And I'm having

682
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Speaker 1: a wonderful time, by the way.

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Speaker 2: But I wrote it like they take a chance because

684
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: we need that, don't may We need more women out there,

685
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: We need more people out there taking chances.

686
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Your crafting a brand around your work, involving a whole

687
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: slew of very interesting people. You're doing a lot of stuff.

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00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: It's really admirable, really and centered on comedy, which is

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Speaker 1: also admirable because in this day and age, we need

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Speaker 1: comedy more than we need a lot of other stuff,

691
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Speaker 1: and to make people laugh, to make them feel good

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Speaker 1: during the day when so many horrible things are occurring

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Speaker 1: in the world. I really admire that of you. And

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Speaker 1: do you feel that you've because you don't get so

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Speaker 1: involved in politics.

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Speaker 2: I don't care. There's enough political pundits out there. It's

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Speaker 2: not that I get it feels like low hanging fruit almost.

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Speaker 2: It's like not worthy of my dime, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, You're much more.

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Speaker 1: What would you say? You're real center is.

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Speaker 2: Like family stuff, husband, wife, kids, the kid that doesn't listen,

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00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: the grand kid that wants something. You know that no

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00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: one wants to do that stuff, But we have these comics.

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Speaker 1: Don't even you see the humor in all of it,

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Speaker 1: which is so great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I love it too.

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Speaker 2: I you know, listen, I gave birth to three kids.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm going to monetize them.

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Speaker 1: What are your boys do? Your girl works with you? Yeah,

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00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: so Zoya is working with you. Does she travel with

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Speaker 1: you to all these cities.

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Speaker 2: And starwhere she I require her to meet people, shake

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Speaker 2: their hands, look people. That's the thing that I asked her,

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Speaker 2: the question what is missing in your generation? So she's

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Speaker 2: obviously Stanford's got these brilliant computer science minds, all these kids,

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00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: but all they do is sit behind a laptop all day,

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Speaker 2: all day. Yeah, they they they're creating solutions for problems.

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Speaker 2: They don't fully understand. They're not out there mixed with humanity,

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Speaker 2: understanding what's going on on the ground. And you cannot

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Speaker 2: build anything meaningful like that in my eyes, so I

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Speaker 2: insist I drag her out there. I'm also like a

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Speaker 2: hashtag believe in child labor. What are we doing? Why

724
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Speaker 2: am I the only one working? But she goes out there.

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Speaker 2: My son is in college, he's getting a degree in

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Speaker 2: computer science. Also great, and we'll see what he does.

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Speaker 2: He wants to have his own tech company. But we

728
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Speaker 2: all have a family podcast. Five of us shoot episodes

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Speaker 2: every week every week, and in fact, we were the

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Speaker 2: family podcast, and we debate like modern life issues. You know,

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Speaker 2: how much do you lie to your parents. How much

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Speaker 2: eye opening. I'll come on any time, come and we

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Speaker 2: have we have we could have you come in and

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Speaker 2: resolve with family dispute.

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Speaker 1: That would be so great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't get along like it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a full.

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Speaker 1: On, a messy fight to do that here in New

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Speaker 1: York City.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we do it online. So it's online.

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Speaker 1: Tell Heather sign signed me up. I think it sounds

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Speaker 1: like fun I need some therapy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: I need I need funny therapy. You have so much

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Speaker 1: uh so much liveliness and and you have such a

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Speaker 1: wonderful sense of humor. Of course you're a comedian. And

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Speaker 1: I thank you so much for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: speak to me today. And please tell our listeners where

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Speaker 1: they can see and hear you.

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Speaker 2: Martha, thank you so much for having me. You can

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Speaker 2: see listen to me anywhere at zarnagarg z A R

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Speaker 2: N A G A r G. I have a New

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Speaker 2: York Times best selling both that is now on Amazon

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: Prime Holiday deals, holiday pricing, guys, this American woman. I

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00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 2: have two specials out on Hulu. I have a movie

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Speaker 2: out on Hulu. If you just look up Zarnaghard you're

757
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna find me everywhere. I have billions of impressions a month.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure everybody this listening has heard of you

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Speaker 1: and will continue to listen and get sage advice from

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Speaker 1: one of the funniest women I've ever met.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what an honor. Thank you. So I

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00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: was so stressed out about like not being perfect enough,

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Speaker 2: but Martha, You're so perfect just the way you are.

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Speaker 1: To thank you, darling, Thank you