Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Assout. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United
Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. My name is Dan hands Us. I'm
Speaker 1: joining in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wrestling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is a boys? Oh Sunday Night,
Speaker 1: the flagship show week West. I heard there's some drama
Speaker 1: going down in the newsroom. I ran down to the
Speaker 1: newsroom to pick up my hat because it's a little
Speaker 1: cool in here, and the whole newsroom was buzzing about
Speaker 1: an incident at your vacant desk. Hamona Homina, one of
Speaker 1: the beers, and I p a that that our listeners,
Speaker 1: one of our listeners sent to us a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, exploded all over your dusk and into the
Speaker 1: office of a shadowy list Yeah, next to you. It's
Speaker 1: all over this floor. They're gonna have to get the
Speaker 1: cleaning people in here, not just anyhow out a league figure.
Speaker 1: Dave shot Otherwise is a nice guy, but he is
Speaker 1: an insufferable New England sports fan who is right in
Speaker 1: a little too high on the paths and the and
Speaker 1: the socks and the Bruins, and it drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: Because all my teams suck. Uh So this feels like
Speaker 1: cosmically the why that beer was always feels right at
Speaker 1: that spot in my desk, that pressurized content blew a
Speaker 1: hole in the top of the beer can and makes
Speaker 1: me wonder why I spent twenty five years of my
Speaker 1: life drinking something with that kind of power. What could
Speaker 1: have been doing to our bodies? I will when you
Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned that there was a chaotic scene happy
Speaker 1: at Dan's desk, and I whispered into your ear. You now,
Speaker 1: as I do all the time, I love to deal
Speaker 1: it with beer can has been on your rate has
Speaker 1: because I'll often I'll often walk by Dan's desk and
Speaker 1: the beer can made a explosive sound around six months
Speaker 1: ago or so, that alert taking time by the right
Speaker 1: because it was one of these cans where it's you know,
Speaker 1: you find it. It's been somewhere refrigerator for far too long,
Speaker 1: and the top looked like it was ready to pop.
Speaker 1: And so every time I walked, but I thought, something
Speaker 1: is not right with that bullet about to be shot
Speaker 1: into the ceiling instead of shot into shots house. This
Speaker 1: is the worst moment for shot since Uh that barbed
Speaker 1: wire tattoo. I wonder if I'll get in trouble because
Speaker 1: I it is on my desk. It's beer. It's an
Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage on the premises on your desk. It's like,
Speaker 1: I will not return to the scene of the crime
Speaker 1: tonight because I'd be like, I just need to get
Speaker 1: as far away as possible. I would put it this.
Speaker 1: Right before I turned the corner to walk into the newsroom,
Speaker 1: I smelled and I was thinking, who's drinking? I p
Speaker 1: A S. I could not only tell it was a beer,
Speaker 1: I could tell specifically it was an I p A.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing was, you know, danst does anyone anywhere
Speaker 1: in the crowded, packed news room filled with people, very
Speaker 1: able bodied people, anyone making any effort to clean it
Speaker 1: up at all? No, was the answer. Not a not
Speaker 1: a person. Until I went down there, nobody had touched
Speaker 1: the crime scene. I drama. Drama in the newsroom. Right.
Speaker 1: We have a lot to at to today, and we
Speaker 1: have teams remaining undefeated and looking damn good and doing
Speaker 1: so and a crushing bit of injury news that will
Speaker 1: get too early in the show. Uh So let's get
Speaker 1: to work. We have uh to start somewhere and we
Speaker 1: decided in the sligh where there was no game that
Speaker 1: really Gregg jumped out at us as a pure lead
Speaker 1: the show. Maybe give the Niners shine. So let's do
Speaker 1: funny seven of three lead down to funny seven jet
Speaker 1: sweet motion of Sanders and side hand off to Debo
Speaker 1: second level touch down Cisco Gibo Samuel's on the inside
Speaker 1: and say him because that's what Carolina is looking at,
Speaker 1: and you get it to the finisher, Deebo Samuel. The
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Ninos radio network, Greg Papa with a
Speaker 1: call to have an Coleman scored three of his four
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half, and oh my goodness, Dick Bosa,
Speaker 1: you are a star. At three sacks and a leaping
Speaker 1: interception the Niners. They stay on beatt fifty burger over
Speaker 1: the Panthers. West Carolina came into the Big Bell Bottom
Speaker 1: riding a four game winning streak, but they didn't have
Speaker 1: a chance against the Niners team playing like a juggernaut.
Speaker 1: Since the forty Niners Week four by they have treated
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield like a pinata, given Jared Goff the worst
Speaker 1: start of his career, I think, even including the Jeff
Speaker 1: Fisher era, shut out the Redskins and now probably took
Speaker 1: the starting job away from Kyle Allen and Carolina with
Speaker 1: a three interception, seven sack performance that also included missing
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel open in the end zone for an early
Speaker 1: touchdown opportunity. Um, this is just a dominating defense right now.
Speaker 1: I know the Patriots are right up there with the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. Is the two best defenses in football this year.
Speaker 1: And the offense, you know, we've been saying, oh year,
Speaker 1: this is not really a quarterback driven offense. It's a
Speaker 1: running game driven offense. And you can throw Kyle Shanahan's
Speaker 1: scheming in there with it. He had some brilliant place today,
Speaker 1: including an inside handoff off off I think a wing
Speaker 1: T formation for Deebo Samuel, a wide receiver that went
Speaker 1: for twenty yards. This was a complete undressing. We've said
Speaker 1: a few times this year already. The forty Niners have
Speaker 1: just unleashed a wall to wall butt kicking on teams,
Speaker 1: the Bengals in Week two, the Browns, the Rams, and
Speaker 1: then this was another one with the Panthers wearing their
Speaker 1: ninety fourth throwback uniforms to it all. It all felt
Speaker 1: right in the San Francisco. People on Twitter or wherever
Speaker 1: that are on the they haven't beaten anyone. Train in
Speaker 1: general should take a look at the traits of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champions over the years, and the most common trait
Speaker 1: that there is is that you beat down bad teams.
Speaker 1: That's how you separate great teams from good teams. The
Speaker 1: good teams have close games, and the forty Niners will
Speaker 1: have a lot of close games, I'm sure down the
Speaker 1: stretch when they play some of the better teams. But
Speaker 1: the way that you know you're a great team is
Speaker 1: that you win convincingly. And the Panthers came into this
Speaker 1: game as a top five defense in terms of d
Speaker 1: v a A, in terms of efficiency, especially good against
Speaker 1: the past. They were efficient throwing the ball today. The
Speaker 1: forty Niners were against Carolina. So you don't need to
Speaker 1: see anymore. I mean, San Francisco and New England through
Speaker 1: the first half of the year are ahead of the pack.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna stay that way, but there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can do to discount what they they have.
Speaker 1: A commoll I hope that ridiculous. You haven't played anyone
Speaker 1: chanting on Twitter just has died down at this point
Speaker 1: because you did play someone when you played Cleveland and
Speaker 1: beat them the way that you did, because that team
Speaker 1: can run the ball and that defense shut them down entirely.
Speaker 1: Hip the Rams, you allowed ten points in three weeks
Speaker 1: before this game, and I thought that the Panthers to
Speaker 1: give up third team points them not a great offense
Speaker 1: at all, but to devastate them the way you did.
Speaker 1: The Panthers me. We're a wild card team and may
Speaker 1: still be so. I don't these ridiculous ideas that you
Speaker 1: have to go out and beat a six and one
Speaker 1: team every week is ridiculous. They are the team. Someone
Speaker 1: come challenge them. They're leaving everyone devastated when when the
Speaker 1: game is over, devastated, with every coach having to answer
Speaker 1: a ton of questions, they keep playing with the lead,
Speaker 1: to which you know is perfect for the style that
Speaker 1: they play. Maybe we'll see something different when another team
Speaker 1: forces him to play from behind, but it's been it's
Speaker 1: been a formula. There has been dominant. Manuel Sanders made
Speaker 1: an instant impact. He had a touchdown four catches. George
Speaker 1: Kittle for the third time I believe the season had
Speaker 1: a touchdown wiped out by a penalty on the Niners,
Speaker 1: so that that's thanks for him, but he is on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis, he is such a monster for them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a game where they piled up
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty two yards on the ground there
Speaker 1: seven and oh, this is the highest scoring game for
Speaker 1: San Francisco in twenty six years. And also my favorite
Speaker 1: stat of week eight Leman score a gami as they
Speaker 1: call it. This was the first final in NFL history,
Speaker 1: and it's got it's got to be one of the
Speaker 1: only times in NFL history that a pair of brothers
Speaker 1: put up five sacks, a couple of turnovers forced between
Speaker 1: Nick and Joey Bosa. We'll get to Joey later, but
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa with his three sacks and the interception, you
Speaker 1: can talk about West. I just think at this point,
Speaker 1: I've thought about him as a defensive rookie of the
Speaker 1: year can at this point and I said I think
Speaker 1: last week that I think he's right there with the
Speaker 1: best pass rushers in football. He started out a little
Speaker 1: slow because of his injury in terms of snaps played,
Speaker 1: but we're still very early in the season and I
Speaker 1: think he has a chance to go on and be
Speaker 1: talked about as one of the best defensive players in
Speaker 1: the in the league and be in the mix for
Speaker 1: that award, especially when one are those players and we'll
Speaker 1: get to in a bit that is vying for that
Speaker 1: coveted title. Defense Player of the Year is no longer
Speaker 1: in the mix in Houston. Um three first half sacks
Speaker 1: just for him alone, six for the team. UM that
Speaker 1: athletic inter oception he had off a deflected past his
Speaker 1: own deflected pass. Uh in the second half. This has
Speaker 1: been multiple games. He has just absolutely taken over and
Speaker 1: demolished the offensive tackle in front of him. It has
Speaker 1: happened over and over again. You have to put him
Speaker 1: in the mix for Defensive Player of the Year when
Speaker 1: there's no clear cut front runner. I think Cameron Jordan
Speaker 1: is a guy people like for that award. You always
Speaker 1: have Aaron Donald Um put him in there. Look at
Speaker 1: the talent they've had on the defensive line, and they've
Speaker 1: been frankly subpar before he got there. And now Eric
Speaker 1: Armstead is playing like a pro bowler, and that that
Speaker 1: whole defensive line is just flat out incredible. And I
Speaker 1: think you on a day when the Falcons owner is
Speaker 1: talking about how disappointed he is in his team and
Speaker 1: he'll review the coaching staff in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself, if we're gonna start seeing teams,
Speaker 1: not let these offensive minds out of the building. I
Speaker 1: know Kyle Shanahan is special, and you know he's up
Speaker 1: there with McVeigh. Don't let him out of the building.
Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself when a guy like that
Speaker 1: it is going to be poached, is your figurehead head
Speaker 1: coach who's just doing nothing more than instilling culture more
Speaker 1: important than your brilliant offensive mind. Before we move on,
Speaker 1: we love our old friend Dick Stockton. We we had
Speaker 1: some good Stockton audio for you guys at the four
Speaker 1: on the return and with a flag down. Nope, sorry,
Speaker 1: that was just someone's hot dog wrapper on the field.
Speaker 1: Dickie Stockton, Rich Stockton at the call. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: I can see how that can happen. Wentz the gun
Speaker 1: glints hits it off again and when I got the
Speaker 1: middle picking up the first town of Moore at the
Speaker 1: fully thirty ft fully at sad there's funny fu funny
Speaker 1: fifty tu fun flick Stone his first enter for a
Speaker 1: rushing judgdown and he out runs everybody, leaving all of
Speaker 1: the Shirts in this week for his first NFL Touchdow
Speaker 1: you have been waiting for that time. Time now for
Speaker 1: Road to Victory presented by the United States Spreen Corps.
Speaker 1: Can you say statement win? Yes, Greg, that's a statement win.
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders the play of the game. That's sixty five
Speaker 1: yard run to put the Eagles in control. They kept,
Speaker 1: they kept, they stayed in control a huge over the
Speaker 1: Bills in Buffalo. The Eagles scored three touchdowns on the ground,
Speaker 1: piled up two d eighteen rushing yards against that Bill's defense.
Speaker 1: It's the most the Bills have allowed on the grounds
Speaker 1: two pats back in late December. And this to me
Speaker 1: for the Eagles is the type of wind that can
Speaker 1: catapult a team out of mediocrity, which is where they've
Speaker 1: been mired in um this season. And we'll see. We'll
Speaker 1: see now because the Eagles have teased us before and
Speaker 1: let us think that they're ready to do it. And
Speaker 1: we'll find out down the road because the next four
Speaker 1: weeks UH includes thereby and then three home games Bears, Pats, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: so we'll see if they're ready to play with the
Speaker 1: big boys in their building. But for today, there's nothing
Speaker 1: you could say, but praise for a team that dealt
Speaker 1: with a lot of drama during the week. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that a little bit later. But to come out
Speaker 1: of this game and really put it on Buffalo, a
Speaker 1: game that was tight and low scoring early on the
Speaker 1: big play of the game, Josh Allen about two minutes
Speaker 1: to go in the first half, fumbles, the ball gets recovered,
Speaker 1: Eagles turned that into a touchdown at a two point
Speaker 1: conversion to take the lead, and that, to me is
Speaker 1: when things kind of changed. Miles Sanders then has that
Speaker 1: run in the third quarter and they kind of coast
Speaker 1: from there. So after a week of drama, after ugly
Speaker 1: losses to the Vikings and Eagles, just a huge win
Speaker 1: for Philadelphia. It's like the Eagles remind you how long
Speaker 1: this season is and how it flip flops from week
Speaker 1: to week. Because are there the team. I feel like
Speaker 1: our impression of them has altered from one end of
Speaker 1: the spectrum of the next. It raises for me on
Speaker 1: the Buffalo front, just a general concern that has been
Speaker 1: voiced on the show before is they aren't an explosive offense.
Speaker 1: They are very much anchored on their running quarterback and
Speaker 1: when he's gonna turn the ball over and flip flop
Speaker 1: the points the way he did. You nailed it with
Speaker 1: that when they went up eleven to seven there, Buffalo.
Speaker 1: How did they get out of those jams? They're also
Speaker 1: like the Niners, a team that's only going to climb
Speaker 1: out to these records when they're up early and their
Speaker 1: defense doesn't allow anyone on the other team to have
Speaker 1: an explosive afternoon the way that Miles Sanders did today.
Speaker 1: And and there's their formula going to work if the
Speaker 1: defense isn't dominant. This is two straight weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: They've not been dominant. We've been giving them kind of
Speaker 1: a pass except for Greg We've been giving them a
Speaker 1: pass at quarterback while Josh Allen develops, but he's not
Speaker 1: developing fast enough. If the defense isn't gonna shove they
Speaker 1: were they were twelfth inefficiency defensively. They're giving up going
Speaker 1: into this game, giving up a lot of long drives
Speaker 1: and then end up making the plays. But there's someone
Speaker 1: where I do think you can look at the strength
Speaker 1: of some of the offenses that they've gone against and
Speaker 1: it's gonna get tougher. They have some easy wins but
Speaker 1: what's the idea here? Are you're trying to sneak into
Speaker 1: the sixth seed, You're trying to do a little more.
Speaker 1: I think if you're the Eagles, they're obviously trying to
Speaker 1: do a lot more. And we asked going into this game,
Speaker 1: what's their identity like If they're giving up big plays
Speaker 1: in the running game and they're not malling people in
Speaker 1: terms of their offensive plane, who are they? And that
Speaker 1: is how they won today. I mean, they did a
Speaker 1: lot less under center today with Carson Wentz where they
Speaker 1: basically do shotgun every play. They they you know, handed
Speaker 1: the ball to Jordan Howard, who has been one of
Speaker 1: their most effective players. He did really well. They run
Speaker 1: for two eighteen yards. They do a good enough job
Speaker 1: shutting down Frank Gore and Devin Singletary, and I still
Speaker 1: think they need to have an explosive element to their
Speaker 1: offense in terms of the passing game. They haven't done that.
Speaker 1: Didn't really do a ton of that today, But what
Speaker 1: a huge win. You get the Bears next week and
Speaker 1: then you're buy you can if you can get into
Speaker 1: the buy five and four your love and life. I
Speaker 1: like that too, but I'm not sure that I trust
Speaker 1: today's game as a launching pad for this to can
Speaker 1: the consistent Eagles. I could still see them being nine
Speaker 1: and seven or even seven and nine, depending on what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I'm saying too. It's like they've
Speaker 1: teased us a couple of times this year where you think, oh,
Speaker 1: now they're ready to take flight, and then it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: And in a in a better world, they had have
Speaker 1: a soft schedule coming up where they can start to
Speaker 1: stack wins and gain confidence, but they will continue to
Speaker 1: face some of the better teams in the league. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting because I do, I do put
Speaker 1: stock into this stuff sometimes that Orlando Scandrick, who was
Speaker 1: with the team. Of course, he gets let go and
Speaker 1: he goes on FS one and trashes the team and
Speaker 1: says straight up that the Eagles are you know, that
Speaker 1: teams living off their Super Bowl win and how you know,
Speaker 1: basically trying to let the world know how toxic the
Speaker 1: locker room is. And they the Eagles, you know, to
Speaker 1: a man, rallied around uh their coach and the and
Speaker 1: the and the team and and then they deliver this performance.
Speaker 1: So I think that I think there's some connective tissue there,
Speaker 1: And I think it's important when you're veteran players play
Speaker 1: their best and lead the way. That's kind of most
Speaker 1: important thing you can do. Their best players today we're
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham and Malcolm Jenkins, all of whom,
Speaker 1: especially Jenkins, probably haven't played to the level that they
Speaker 1: have in the past. And even even Cox, I think
Speaker 1: has been a tick below where where he's been. So
Speaker 1: those guys just playing better and playing the kind of
Speaker 1: their standard would be huge, and that bill a bulletin
Speaker 1: board material. The players only team meetings can have a
Speaker 1: galvanizing effect. We've seen it happen before. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: always have staying power. It might just be a one week,
Speaker 1: one or two things. Well, hopefully a team doesn't need
Speaker 1: that to get up every week. But you never know, alright,
Speaker 1: you never know. I know some people know, some people don't.
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, there's another undefeated team. Oh
Speaker 1: and by the way, I should say, that was the
Speaker 1: Road to Victory presented by the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: Now we talked about one undefeated team. Let's talk to
Speaker 1: let's talk about another. Brady takes the staff looks over
Speaker 1: the middle of the falls in the pocket. Now he
Speaker 1: starts from all to his right, he ends up and touchdown. Patriots,
Speaker 1: Why are you going to the pocket? Greg? Composure by
Speaker 1: the quarterback care prepended? When you give the Scott time
Speaker 1: Portree York touchdown, Bob Socie and Scott Zilla. Is Scott
Speaker 1: lacks voice deteriorating from screaming all the time? Now? Is
Speaker 1: that what's happening that? Or there may be other reasons,
Speaker 1: but I would I would put that at the top
Speaker 1: of the list. I won't, I won't. Oh one more thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, p FT reported that the Eagles are
Speaker 1: pursuing something fun quote something fun ahead of Tuesday's trade
Speaker 1: demo that came from Greg's former buss Mike Gloria. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the Patriots are halfway to perfection. In the regular season.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady connected with Julian Edelman for two touchdowns in
Speaker 1: New England's dominating defense had yet another touchdown of its
Speaker 1: own and to ten win over the Browns and soggy Foxborough. Greg.
Speaker 1: The Browns at least put up a fight, but this
Speaker 1: was another rather easy victory Bill Belichick's career. Yeah, seventeen
Speaker 1: first quarter points and then the Browns never really made
Speaker 1: it a game. There was a moment where it was
Speaker 1: a one score game and they had a third intent
Speaker 1: to try to get off the field, and that's the
Speaker 1: moment they hit James White for a long screen pass,
Speaker 1: which it just seems like the Patriots have come up
Speaker 1: with those plays. And at some point I'm watching this
Speaker 1: Patriots offense and and all the turnovers, and I almost
Speaker 1: thinking like, are they lucky? Because they are getting lucky
Speaker 1: on some level. The three turnovers on three successive plays
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, that is just an outrageous thing
Speaker 1: to happen. And you can look at each play and
Speaker 1: break it down and see a lucky element to each one.
Speaker 1: On one of Brown's offensive lineman kicks the ball out
Speaker 1: of Nick Chubb's hand, but he did it because Kyle
Speaker 1: Bennoy pushed him into it, so it's luck and residue.
Speaker 1: On one, Chubb fumbled it after a really long game,
Speaker 1: but Jonathan Jones made a great, you know play in
Speaker 1: pursuit uh to go get him. And then the last one,
Speaker 1: which I think Browns fans are gonna have a hard time,
Speaker 1: you know, living with, is a shovel pass that Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield somehow, you know, gets intercepted on Lawrence Guy, But
Speaker 1: that sure looked like a play where the Patriots kind
Speaker 1: of knew what was coming and got in the way
Speaker 1: and it hit him in the helmet. And so when
Speaker 1: these two teams play, it's like it's luck and design
Speaker 1: kind of matching because one team is so sloppy with
Speaker 1: thirteen penalties and the Browns and one team kind of
Speaker 1: has everything in order, even if their offense isn't nearly
Speaker 1: where it wants to be. Isn't that isn't that part
Speaker 1: of the And you could point through the years things
Speaker 1: that weren't so lucky for the Patriots, but isn't for
Speaker 1: people that are so sick of the Patriots. Part of
Speaker 1: the explanation of a nutshell that not only the best team,
Speaker 1: the best coach with the best quarterback, that they seem
Speaker 1: to get the breaks sometimes. Right. I don't mean to
Speaker 1: say that any of this is because they're like, it's
Speaker 1: because they're kind of putting themselves in position to do that.
Speaker 1: And and and the Browns in this game especially just
Speaker 1: had it was us like they were before the bye
Speaker 1: in terms of shooting themselves in the foot. Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: dropped the key pass on third down that ended to
Speaker 1: driving just a lot of little things. I think the
Speaker 1: Browns could have used the bye week now for the
Speaker 1: exercise of Freddie Kitchens on down, examining who they went
Speaker 1: up against, and the fact that on every single possible
Speaker 1: way from the way that the players stood on the sideline,
Speaker 1: they showed an instance where the Browns were in trouble
Speaker 1: because they had players in front of that yellow stripe
Speaker 1: and on the Patriots sideline they're robotically like a military
Speaker 1: militia lined up uh, perfectly, and and that that's that's excessive.
Speaker 1: But there are examples, probably two or three hundred of
Speaker 1: them in today's game, if you really were able to
Speaker 1: drill down bit by bit where Belichick has his players
Speaker 1: prepared for every instance, which looks to us. I think
Speaker 1: sometimes like Luck and Cleveland could not get out of
Speaker 1: their own way. And I don't you know, when when
Speaker 1: the balls kicked out of Nick Chubb's hands, that's not
Speaker 1: on Nick Chubb, who looked absolutely dynamic and powerful today
Speaker 1: and looks like the best Brown's running back they've had
Speaker 1: in deck Aids. At the same time, they're always about
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty there, like you see the you see
Speaker 1: the potential, and that doesn't mean anything in November where
Speaker 1: we were rolling into November. Now in the NFL, Cleveland
Speaker 1: is still figuring out how to work together, and that
Speaker 1: to me is the sign of suspect naive uh still
Speaker 1: in development coaching? Did you We talked with Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: last week and he had hinted that the Browns did
Speaker 1: look different, not offense. I know it's started terribly, but
Speaker 1: did they did? Did the bye week lead to any
Speaker 1: changes in terms of how they attacked the opponent? We
Speaker 1: talked to him tonight and I think that Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: thought he'd see the change that he mentioned, which would
Speaker 1: be quicker released for Baker Mayfield, but also a lot
Speaker 1: less mental errors, and I thought they did. There were.
Speaker 1: I came away from this game not in a total
Speaker 1: doo mcgloom scenario, thinking this team, with the schedule I
Speaker 1: have down the stretch, can improve. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that's gonna mean, um, but they didn't look that. To me.
Speaker 1: The staple of this Cleveland team has been hideous mental errors,
Speaker 1: where you're seeing other teams lesser team's talent wise grow
Speaker 1: out of that. Cleveland has not. Well. They were They're
Speaker 1: leaning into the running game, which I think they should do,
Speaker 1: making some big plays for Chubb, some creative looks. Chubb
Speaker 1: ran really well. I think they want to do short passing.
Speaker 1: We joined, you know, as you said, Joe Thomas and
Speaker 1: Andrew Hawkins on their show that the Tomahawks show, uh tonight,
Speaker 1: and they were so disappointed because they're they're doing the
Speaker 1: short passing in theory to eliminate some mistakes and have
Speaker 1: things be in rhythm, and they weren't in rhythm. You know,
Speaker 1: you still had that interception, you still had the O.
Speaker 1: B J drop at a at a key spot. You
Speaker 1: weren't you know, making explosive plays down the field. And
Speaker 1: you have to give a you know, a ton of
Speaker 1: credit to to Stephan Gilmour who was guarding Beckham and
Speaker 1: the rest of the Patriots defense. Any other thoughts on
Speaker 1: this game? Job? I did hear Mark remains undefeated in
Speaker 1: his first quarter uh pronunciations? He pronounced this game over?
Speaker 1: What the blank? Was that? All? Right? This thing's over
Speaker 1: late first quarter of attend to nothing game. Well, that
Speaker 1: could have been applied, honestly, more to this Browns game
Speaker 1: than than any in a long time, because they just
Speaker 1: well again it's sixteen penalties and three turnovers. That is
Speaker 1: twenty instances. That that that completely foiled my optimism. Uh
Speaker 1: this afternoon there. It was a tough game to watch
Speaker 1: and a lot like to not watch without you know,
Speaker 1: just zip through the commercials and move on with your guy.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing where the Browns have never let
Speaker 1: you down. When you make the pronouncement that it's over,
Speaker 1: it usually is. I think I lost that once. I
Speaker 1: think I'm about and one. And the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: they you watched the game, they didn't look like on
Speaker 1: even teams they Brown's average more yards for play. They
Speaker 1: were about the same in yardage. The Browns I thought
Speaker 1: won the line of scrimmage when they were on offense.
Speaker 1: Uh so you're both saying they just got really outcoached. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got out there. They had two terrible but they
Speaker 1: also have the far better quarterback. I mean that cannot
Speaker 1: be understated the Browns. Yes, the Browns do. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is playing at a much higher level than Baker Mayfield is.
Speaker 1: Right now, I thought you were saying the opensite, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: I think is playing really well. And this is the
Speaker 1: point I you know, tried to make that the what's
Speaker 1: going on around him. They didn't have Shack Mason today.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it, so they didn't have their left tackle,
Speaker 1: their center, or the right guard. They have most of
Speaker 1: new who comes in place. Twenty five snaps made a
Speaker 1: couple of catches. The running game has been the worst
Speaker 1: running game they've had in a long time, and they're
Speaker 1: passing game is not explosive. But you know, he whenever
Speaker 1: they've needed a play like that touchdown when he gets
Speaker 1: outside the pocket, or it's McDaniels calling up a screen
Speaker 1: on third and ten when they're backed up and it's
Speaker 1: a one score game, or they when they have a
Speaker 1: played a door set where they only try like once
Speaker 1: the whole game, but they hit it down the field.
Speaker 1: I think Brady has been making those plays. He's not
Speaker 1: where he is before, but PFF, going into this week
Speaker 1: having about the seventh quarterback and link it sounds about
Speaker 1: right to me and I and people have been kind
Speaker 1: of saying down things on him because their offense is
Speaker 1: definitely way worse than it's been since too. That he's
Speaker 1: the perfect set up right now. I mean, if he's
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady the super duper star anymore, but he's
Speaker 1: like the best. He's an elite game manager a little
Speaker 1: higher than that. With this defense, I mean it makes
Speaker 1: it's a terrifying prospect, the idea of the Pats having
Speaker 1: an all time defense with late period Tom Brady not
Speaker 1: making any mistakes and lording over the offense. Are your
Speaker 1: number one speed and everyone else get out of the way.
Speaker 1: And in a conference that outside of the maybe the Ravens,
Speaker 1: who's gonna who's gonna touch? I think the offense will
Speaker 1: will get better as the season goes, and we'll get
Speaker 1: into it more on Thursday with our preview show. Mark.
Speaker 1: But at Denver next week, Cleveland go win a ballgame
Speaker 1: or we might have to put your six ft under.
Speaker 1: So he's like the six ft under game next week. Well,
Speaker 1: because I don't Again, you know, Greg asked about the pills.
Speaker 1: What is the goal? Does Cleveland actually view themselves the
Speaker 1: playoff team? I don't at this point, but I think
Speaker 1: they can contend they this is a big game. Lose
Speaker 1: to Denver, and I'm sorry because I've been killing Denver,
Speaker 1: we all have for various reasons. You go to losing
Speaker 1: to an incomplete team under game. Yeah, So Brady is
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington with like Merlin the Wizard's brain. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's a nice arm sling it all right, Let's move one.
Speaker 1: Takes the guns out, was back looking to throw to balls.
Speaker 1: Canland tributes very contemptive into the young Um touchdown. Murray's
Speaker 1: team yards called the pitching catch mured The Saints take
Speaker 1: a sixteen and six league Zach Streep, Saints Radio Network,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, this turn this up, bring play the soul
Speaker 1: day long in my house. Please. It's like the Native
Speaker 1: seven in kingcom on Skull Island or something. All right,
Speaker 1: you can turn Drew Brees passed for three seventy three
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns in his first game in more
Speaker 1: than five weeks thumb surgery and the Saints six in
Speaker 1: a row now to nine victory over the Cardinals were overmatched.
Speaker 1: Mark the Saints and that Arizona three game winning streak.
Speaker 1: We expected that. The bigger question is how in his
Speaker 1: first action in a long time. Well, it's an interesting
Speaker 1: game to come off of the Tom Brady conversation because Breeze,
Speaker 1: to me, there's some similar stuff. That's you did a
Speaker 1: nice job off setting those back to back Breeze is
Speaker 1: also operating neck up the way you'd expect, And he
Speaker 1: didn't show to me any remnants of holding the ball
Speaker 1: differently or anything like that. Off of the thumbs. The
Speaker 1: thumb surgery, he did have that brace on it, and
Speaker 1: he still loves to. Whenever he's on the sideline, he's
Speaker 1: fiddling with his thumb NonStop. We know, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you went through a thumb thing that's good, but
Speaker 1: they are not. They're a bit different, and it's it's it.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel like Sean Peyton did not go
Speaker 1: out of his way to change the offense a whole
Speaker 1: lot from the Teddy Bridgewater experience in the sense that
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray at thirty touches and twenty one of those
Speaker 1: are on the ground, but nine were through the air
Speaker 1: where the screen game is still and that's this has
Speaker 1: been a Sean Payton trade, but even more now with
Speaker 1: Sean with the Drew brees Um. I think limitations in
Speaker 1: terms of downfield throwing, which West has been hitting, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to last season. I think it's just an
Speaker 1: understood reality at this point. To some degree, He's still
Speaker 1: a sharp thrower. He can hit guys on wheel routes
Speaker 1: and do it unlike anyone else, but they're under they
Speaker 1: understand who their quarterback is. He's still threw the ball
Speaker 1: forty three times for three seventy three yards. But I
Speaker 1: would say the box go watch it. Maybe maybe I
Speaker 1: got stuck on this early, but I just felt like
Speaker 1: his stats were not what I was seeing on the field.
Speaker 1: And it's not a knock on Breeze. They're very versatile.
Speaker 1: I think they're still one of the best coach teams
Speaker 1: in the league, and that this game, to me, was
Speaker 1: just just as much about their defense putting the clamps
Speaker 1: on an interesting Cardinals offense, but one that again cannot
Speaker 1: They got down to the Saints thirteen yard line twice
Speaker 1: and were held to field goals, and then from there
Speaker 1: the wheels kind of fell off. They could not get
Speaker 1: the running game going. Then Chase Edmonds got hurt, and
Speaker 1: they they had Alfred Morris, who they signed wasn't even active.
Speaker 1: They just had nothing on the ground, and the Saints
Speaker 1: also shut down Kyler Murray on the ground, So a
Speaker 1: triple dimensional offense went down to a zero dimensional offense.
Speaker 1: So Levin carries a forty yards on the ground, and
Speaker 1: they we talked about most of that coming in the
Speaker 1: last five eight yards from their running back. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Thursday and someone that put
Speaker 1: it out there, um, a media person perhaps that, Um,
Speaker 1: they're very hard team to to plan for. Now the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: who's at eight? Greg Olson, Greg Olsen, And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens when you go to the Superdome,
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. I mean against they. Arizona
Speaker 1: was playing some of the worst teams in football and
Speaker 1: the Saints are one of the very best teams. And
Speaker 1: now with Drew Brees there, they you know, when you
Speaker 1: look at you don't want to get too crazy with
Speaker 1: the big picture, but like, who can beat the Patriots
Speaker 1: is usually the way I look at football. But the
Speaker 1: Saints the way they are currently, uh presently constituted with
Speaker 1: with Drew back, they have a shot. No one sneaking
Speaker 1: out of this NFC. This is a strong conference at
Speaker 1: the top, absolutely, and and I think the Saints keep
Speaker 1: building confidence, getting better and playing more complete football as
Speaker 1: this season goes along. Latavius Murray was a great signing
Speaker 1: and we weren't all that excited by it, but they
Speaker 1: haven't missed mark Ingram at all and sometimes you know
Speaker 1: the old saying, you're you're one injury away from a
Speaker 1: better team. Chauncey Gardner Johnson, their fourth round rookie comes
Speaker 1: in and plays nickel Beck because p J. Williams got hurt.
Speaker 1: He really caught my eye last week and had a
Speaker 1: couple of passes defense today. Uh that that guy should
Speaker 1: probably keep the job. That's three straight weeks he's been awesome.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they got better with Drew Brees out,
Speaker 1: but they did learn about their team absolutely, and I
Speaker 1: think that's to their advantage. We when he got hurt,
Speaker 1: we we said, well, he's got six games of four
Speaker 1: the bye. If they can just go three and three,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that they'll be fine. And here now
Speaker 1: they're going to there By on a six game winning streak,
Speaker 1: and they are. I mean, there's not much of a
Speaker 1: favorite difference between them and the fort and you know,
Speaker 1: whoever else heroin. There's a lot of good teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC, but I mean, I think it's the best
Speaker 1: Saints team I've seen. But I mean, through half a season,
Speaker 1: how completely they have the best Their offensive line is incredible,
Speaker 1: They have the best tackle combination and the best defense.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has ever had. So if they're if their
Speaker 1: offense is just very very good like it's been, I
Speaker 1: can't disagree with you more on them, you mean, ever
Speaker 1: compared to what compared to their best teams when Drew
Speaker 1: Brees was in his prime, Jimmy Graham was in his prime,
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls was in his prime. There they were rolling over.
Speaker 1: Their offense was great, but that they had a below
Speaker 1: after brought that whole run that was all on turnovers
Speaker 1: and they and they turn over in THEFS tonight. I
Speaker 1: mean best or not. I think that you're looking at
Speaker 1: the best coaching. It's the same way that Belichick is
Speaker 1: coaching in in a in a different world. I feel
Speaker 1: that way about Sean Payton, and they're more complete team
Speaker 1: than they've been in the past. And then the league
Speaker 1: where it's teams are up and down and and have
Speaker 1: a hard time sustaining success, especially after making the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl other than the Patriots, Like this is three straight
Speaker 1: years they've been one of the best five teams in
Speaker 1: the league. It's kind of their turn and then they
Speaker 1: come out of there. By then Drew Brees gets more
Speaker 1: time to uh get right. I don't think you should
Speaker 1: have played on something. But you know, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 1: They get the Falcons at home cupcake. They go to
Speaker 1: Tampa about another cupcake. By the way, the Panthers aren't
Speaker 1: catching up with them. This team is gonna be rolling.
Speaker 1: This is a fourteen two team. I think, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's keep moving. First and goal at the nine.
Speaker 1: The Shawan castle the ball, here's the snap. Watson looking
Speaker 1: pocket collapsing, want to try to get away. He talks
Speaker 1: to the right brow to the ASA talkie. Fells magical
Speaker 1: touchdown Houston and the Texans take the lead, and Watson
Speaker 1: has shake it up at the fifteen face down. I
Speaker 1: don't know if as he was going down he got
Speaker 1: a cleat or he got hit in the face as
Speaker 1: he was going down, but that's what they seemed to
Speaker 1: be looking at right here. They got kicked enough ice
Speaker 1: right in the eye. Mark Vandermere and Andre Ware with
Speaker 1: the call Texans Radio network. But he's all right, he's
Speaker 1: all right, Sean Watson would not be denied. The Texans
Speaker 1: quarterback escaped the sure sack, then found Darren Fells for
Speaker 1: that touchdown, the deciding score over those frisky Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: on that touchdown pass. Yes, Watson took the clee to
Speaker 1: the eye. It was nearly swollen. I love this guy.
Speaker 1: This's Deshaun Watson. Hey, he's a player. Hey, dog, he's
Speaker 1: a player that I was nearly swollen shut on the
Speaker 1: last possession for Houston when they were trying to run
Speaker 1: out the clock. So you would think, oh, maybe hand
Speaker 1: the ball off three times to Carlos Hide or Duke
Speaker 1: Johnson try to get a first alf that Bill O'Brien,
Speaker 1: who I liked the game, he called in general calls
Speaker 1: for passes and and and Watson throws two touchdown throws
Speaker 1: for two more first downs, clinches the game. However, J J.
Speaker 1: Watt and here's the bummer of it all. J J.
Speaker 1: Watt was ruled out with a shoulder injury, uh midway
Speaker 1: through the game, and then rap Sheet came out with
Speaker 1: the report that the Texans feared it was a torn
Speaker 1: peck I would end a season, and then J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt hopped on Twitter and confirmed it. Here's what Watt
Speaker 1: had to say. This game could be beautiful and it
Speaker 1: can also be brutal. Absolutely gutted, gutted that I won't
Speaker 1: be able to finish the season with my guys and
Speaker 1: give the fans what they deserve. I truly love this
Speaker 1: game and can't stand letting you guys down. Thank you
Speaker 1: for all of the thoughts and well wishes. That is
Speaker 1: the third time in four seasons what ends the season
Speaker 1: on I R and obviously a devastating loss for the Texans, who,
Speaker 1: as we know Greg Rosenthal have gone all in on
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Well, now they don't have their best player
Speaker 1: on defense, and I thought J. J. Watt played the
Speaker 1: last two weeks probably as well as he's played since
Speaker 1: any of those injuries hit. And he you know, he
Speaker 1: said it himself and and I trust that judgment going
Speaker 1: into it. That makes it tough because I think the
Speaker 1: Texans had been shaping up as one of the main
Speaker 1: A f C challengers. I also don't think they're necessarily
Speaker 1: done without him, because ultimately they're an offensive team. Now
Speaker 1: they've changed, they they are an offensive team this year,
Speaker 1: probably a little too much weighted towards offense for Romeo
Speaker 1: Cornell's like, and I think he's probably thought this defense
Speaker 1: is underachieved a little bit through the first seven or
Speaker 1: eight weeks. And now Deshaun Watson's gonna have to put
Speaker 1: more on his back. He said, they're they're the worst
Speaker 1: team obviously without him, And we already knew. The Patriots
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs I think went healthy, but especially the Patriots.
Speaker 1: You were talking again, who can beat the Patriots. The
Speaker 1: Texans West needed all the help they could get, and
Speaker 1: they needed J. J. Watt to be peak Watt, and
Speaker 1: now he is absent for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: It's crushing. Well, we know the pass rush and the
Speaker 1: secondary is sort of interconnected in football. The secondary relies
Speaker 1: on that pass rush to hurry the quarterback, and this
Speaker 1: secondary is the weak spot on the team. We've been
Speaker 1: saying that since August. It's bypassed. The offensive line is
Speaker 1: the biggest trouble spot and it's not getting any better.
Speaker 1: They do have a good backup. The rookie Charles and
Speaker 1: Many who who we've talked about a few times, is
Speaker 1: a good backup. He's just not you know J. J. Watt, who,
Speaker 1: like Greg said, was he was in the running for
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year this year. I mean, just
Speaker 1: to back the truck up a few yards. Fun team
Speaker 1: like them a lot. Don't even talk to me about them.
Speaker 1: Challenging the Patriots in January. There they are the quintessential
Speaker 1: Dictionary definition of Patriots fodder. I mean they are enjoyable
Speaker 1: and I think that they could win a playoff game,
Speaker 1: no doubt. But the minute they hit New England, it's over.
Speaker 1: They have I mean they can throw a lot ie offensively,
Speaker 1: especially yeah, with Will Fuller and the way they're running.
Speaker 1: And for Watson, I mean, you can't play. I have
Speaker 1: a hard time counting him out in any game. You
Speaker 1: can't play a better half than they did. Offensively, they
Speaker 1: only had the ball four times along field goal drive
Speaker 1: and then touchdown, touched down, and then the three first
Speaker 1: downs with onion. Uh. Play calls and conversions. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have the play call, it's another
Speaker 1: thing for Watson running to his right, throwing to his left,
Speaker 1: Darren Fells makes a one handed catch. I mean, these
Speaker 1: guys are executed. Are three guys that cannot get hurt
Speaker 1: on the Texans wats and what Laramie Tunsel who also
Speaker 1: exited this game the left the DeAndre Hopkins of course
Speaker 1: as well, but um Laramie Tunsel, who um has played
Speaker 1: great left tackle since coming over in that trade. He
Speaker 1: exited with a shoulder injury, and I'm actually doing some
Speaker 1: web searching right now looking for updates on that. But
Speaker 1: he left the game. He was questionable but did not return,
Speaker 1: so you got to keep an eye on that as well.
Speaker 1: So and really it was a nice win again the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I'll give the Raiders this there. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: a great team. I don't think they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: playoff team either, but week after week they're showing that
Speaker 1: they can hang with good teams, whether in their building
Speaker 1: or on the road. It's undeniable progress for John Gruden
Speaker 1: and and they nearly pulled this game out as a
Speaker 1: credit to Deshaun Watson and Deshaun Watson magic that Houston
Speaker 1: managed to steal this game. And I imagine because Watson
Speaker 1: so special, that they aren't doomed uh and aren't gonna
Speaker 1: be an eight and eight team or something now going forward.
Speaker 1: I still think they are going to win that division personally,
Speaker 1: but that's a devastating loss. They're the most electric team
Speaker 1: in that division, no doubt. I would put the Raiders though,
Speaker 1: as one of the nice surprises of the season. I
Speaker 1: don't care what the record is right now. The scope
Speaker 1: of potential disaster in Oakland with a the team and
Speaker 1: its finally season in in in Oakland before they go
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, and what was going on with Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown and just you throw in the asterix of John
Speaker 1: Gruden maybe melting by now, and it is worked out
Speaker 1: on a team with very few weapons. On offense, they're
Speaker 1: really good. It's offense, but the defense they're not going
Speaker 1: to get stops when there Derek Carr had another good game.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't put a lot into this, Greg,
Speaker 1: but earlier in this season, to me, it did feel
Speaker 1: like this was an audition year for whether Gruden and
Speaker 1: and and Car would move forward together. And right now
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a really good bond because they
Speaker 1: do move the ball on offense, they do a nice job.
Speaker 1: I'm the I was the one that suggesting Car might
Speaker 1: be out of there, and I'm still not sir that
Speaker 1: like Gruden couldn't become someone else. But but the Car
Speaker 1: is basically telling me to go f myself with that.
Speaker 1: Back your car up. Yeah, if I had one, you
Speaker 1: would to say he's a good Christian man. By the way,
Speaker 1: he would never use that type of language, that performative language.
Speaker 1: You're right, he might say, back your car up, though,
Speaker 1: back your own car up. It's a it's a year
Speaker 1: of progress for them, absolutely all right, let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: move forward. It's gonna be from the left, hash pan
Speaker 1: Yarro for the win. The Chargers check his up and
Speaker 1: it is no good that Chargers win. No good pan
Speaker 1: Yaro misses, and the Chargers losing streak comes to an end.
Speaker 1: They make just enough place to get out of Chicago
Speaker 1: with a victory. Pan Yaro ends up pulling it left
Speaker 1: our boy Matt money Smith, the voice of the Chargers,
Speaker 1: with the call in January. It was the double doink
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It was simply a whiff to the left
Speaker 1: of the upright by Eddie Piniero, who's missed from forty
Speaker 1: one yards out doomed the Bears to a seventeen sixteen loss.
Speaker 1: That's three consecutive defeats for the Bears and the end
Speaker 1: of a three game skid for the Chargers. I'd say
Speaker 1: are pretty much all even now, even Stephen with the
Speaker 1: football gods. After last week's to backle against the Titans. Greg,
Speaker 1: you know you can point the finger in a lot
Speaker 1: of directions to this one. But Matt Naggy to me,
Speaker 1: went full herm edwards in this one. Yeah, why are
Speaker 1: we accepting forty one yard field goals at the buzzer
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen and then defending it after the
Speaker 1: game like the reporters were basically accosting Matt Negle, Like,
Speaker 1: how dare they even question the fact that he had
Speaker 1: forty four seconds on a defense They had just moved
Speaker 1: the ball on very quickly and the time out and
Speaker 1: you have a kicker in Pinero hasn't played much in
Speaker 1: the league. And oh, by the way, missed the thirty
Speaker 1: three yards perrow earlier in the game. Let's listen to
Speaker 1: the exchange, the contentious exchange between Bears head coach and
Speaker 1: local and national media. I'll just be brutally clear. Zero
Speaker 1: thought of throwing a football, zero thought of running the football.
Speaker 1: You understand me. That's exactly what it was. So it's
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Could you explain to give why
Speaker 1: not running the ball? What? What? What was? Should I
Speaker 1: just say that? Yeah? Just what I say? What? Was it? Fumble?
Speaker 1: And when they know you're running football, you lose three
Speaker 1: or four yards? That was Matt Naggy. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you ran for a hundred and sixty two yards. In
Speaker 1: this game, you have professional football players and professional blockers.
Speaker 1: You hypothetically believe in your team. So the idea of
Speaker 1: being afraid to run the ball since the worst message,
Speaker 1: and then double downing double you know, double downing on
Speaker 1: it in the double down, double downing, doubling down, doubling
Speaker 1: in the press conference. It's just such a bad look.
Speaker 1: He needs to go see a shrink after that. He's
Speaker 1: he he is. It's almost like, well, we can just
Speaker 1: point at the kicker being the problem when he wasn't
Speaker 1: because the play calling and the quarterback it's all married here.
Speaker 1: The end of the first half sequence to me, was
Speaker 1: actually a bigger fiasco, uh than the end of the game.
Speaker 1: They had five plays I believe inside the five at
Speaker 1: the end of the first half. They end up running
Speaker 1: out of time and kicking a field goal. They had
Speaker 1: nine plays inside the five in the first half and
Speaker 1: three more inside between the six and the ten. They
Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown on any of them, and some
Speaker 1: of those, Mitchell Trabinsky had plenty of time and Bears
Speaker 1: fans are all in my mention saying, well, the play calling,
Speaker 1: the play called, every play that Trabinsky made today, and
Speaker 1: he played better today. He made some throws, he got
Speaker 1: them in position. There were first reads, two guys who
Speaker 1: were wide open, and so that to me is play calling.
Speaker 1: Those are the only players you're getting. And yes, Trabinsky,
Speaker 1: everyone said, well, he put him in position to win.
Speaker 1: You know what else he did. He lost them the
Speaker 1: game with ninety two to go. And sometimes you get
Speaker 1: so focused at the end of the game. Here's a
Speaker 1: sequence for you, sixteen to ten. At this point, I
Speaker 1: want to go on too long, but it's all right,
Speaker 1: all right, at this point in the game, it's sixteen
Speaker 1: to ten, it's nine thirty two left to set the scene.
Speaker 1: Rabinsky had just thrown a backbreaking pick uh just a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes before that set the Chargers up in
Speaker 1: field goal range, and the Bears defense stuffed them three
Speaker 1: and out and the Chargers missed the kick. So let's
Speaker 1: give the ball back to Mitch. Let's try to go
Speaker 1: win the game. You know what Matt Naggie did right there,
Speaker 1: He got his wide receiver. I believe it was Anthony
Speaker 1: Miller isolated on Thomas Davis, who's been in the league
Speaker 1: for sixteen years, streaking down down the field wide open
Speaker 1: against uh young wide receiver, and you know what Trabinsky does.
Speaker 1: He overshoots him by about fifteen yards. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was so much margin for air. What happened the very
Speaker 1: next play he lost a fumble by running into the
Speaker 1: opposing defender. The Chargers punch in that touchdown like those,
Speaker 1: that's where the game is lost, is when you're just
Speaker 1: missing gimmes. Other quarterbacks are gonna hit. And just to
Speaker 1: make it clear so people know exactly the circumstances, um
Speaker 1: Travisky late names scrambled um for eleven yards to get
Speaker 1: to the Chargers twenty didn I stop setting them up?
Speaker 1: Overall good drive the Chargers, so stopping the clocks clock
Speaker 1: at forty three seconds and then at first and ten
Speaker 1: from the Chargers twenty one, with the time out in
Speaker 1: their pocket, they decided to kneel on the football. So
Speaker 1: really it came down to running football once and maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't go anywhere. That's essentially uh what Naggie is
Speaker 1: saying that either run into a wall for a loss,
Speaker 1: maybe worth it, or maybe you break off a twelve
Speaker 1: yard run for for a chip shot, or you score.
Speaker 1: Who knows, it's what you do that when you have
Speaker 1: no confidence in your quarterback to execute six yard throw
Speaker 1: when they had a bunch of third there were a
Speaker 1: couple of third and long situations where they basically had
Speaker 1: give up plays in the game, and in a lot
Speaker 1: of the play call inside the ten yard line were
Speaker 1: like that. So if you have so little confidence in
Speaker 1: your quarterback, do you play the veteran caddy or do
Speaker 1: you say I need I still need more time to
Speaker 1: evaluate mitts Dubinski. What we what we paid in draft
Speaker 1: picks to get him, we gotta we get we need
Speaker 1: eight more games to evaluate it. Well, I guess why
Speaker 1: would you not? Well, I'm down on Mitch Drabinsky, but
Speaker 1: I would take the time to evaluate because otherwise you
Speaker 1: are learning about a quarterback that is not your future
Speaker 1: at all in your backup. It's tough to give up
Speaker 1: on Rabinsky until he gives you absolutely no other choice.
Speaker 1: But I think he's he's getting there. That the tricky
Speaker 1: thing if you're if you're naggy. I think they've won
Speaker 1: some games where they maybe have gotten a little lucky.
Speaker 1: This game, they were the better team. I mean, their
Speaker 1: defense shut the Chargers down. They outgained them by a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. They moved the ball. They ran it
Speaker 1: really well. Your boy, David Montgomery West had had his
Speaker 1: best game of the year, and it was really just
Speaker 1: a couple of plays Rivers made and Joey Bosa making
Speaker 1: really uh well time sacks on third down that kept
Speaker 1: the Chargers in it. But that the Bears blew this one.
Speaker 1: And because I'm a monster, I asked Ricky to call
Speaker 1: pull the Bears radio call of the final seconds of
Speaker 1: the game. Let's listen, come on, Operations, gotta be smooth,
Speaker 1: Captoric Scales. I'm the ball dish for a Bears win.
Speaker 1: Donald kicked by Eddie kick. He's a little good he
Speaker 1: missed it. As time expires seventeen sixteen, the win thought
Speaker 1: it was good. Operation Smooth twisted it away left and
Speaker 1: the Chargers in their three losing streak. Jeff, it's good
Speaker 1: to know there. You know other people in the world
Speaker 1: are miserable about it. It does seem like we paid
Speaker 1: the price watching these television feeds week after week, because
Speaker 1: what's coming through the radio feeds are about fifteen times
Speaker 1: Juice here, let's move on. Matthew's got it talk sweet
Speaker 1: Lake Soger, mckissic he clos it back to Stafford. Stafford
Speaker 1: Gona keeping field. He's that knydown receiving, said, I thought
Speaker 1: he made it, kissing who made my brother's Stafford Stafford
Speaker 1: through a deep field to Coliday, how that the blind swards?
Speaker 1: What are they talking over? They got your highlight, got
Speaker 1: four weeks worth of compliments out of us on your team.
Speaker 1: Deal with it, Dan Miller with the call, Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: through three toughs. And by the way, the lines are
Speaker 1: not the team around the N five seen some people
Speaker 1: that's used about that. I can see why people were
Speaker 1: confused based on the conversation not really being buttoned up
Speaker 1: at the end, but they definitively are not them anyway.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford threw three touchdowns too, of them to star
Speaker 1: wide receiver Mac Holliday, and the Lions ended a three
Speaker 1: game losing to get a win over the Giants at
Speaker 1: Ford Field. Mark. We commanded the Lions to go win
Speaker 1: a football game at home on Sunday. They honored our demand.
Speaker 1: They stay in the picture. They took care of business.
Speaker 1: I went and read some of the because the game
Speaker 1: was a little was strange for multiple reasons. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see what some of the Detroit writers took
Speaker 1: out of the win, and a couple kind of seemed
Speaker 1: dismayed that Detroit needed to as you just saw that
Speaker 1: highlight used trickery to beat a team as lowly as
Speaker 1: the Giants. I didn't have a problem with any of
Speaker 1: this because if you're Detroit, just find a way to
Speaker 1: get this thing done. And they effectively. They They got
Speaker 1: the game going well on their first defensive touchdown of
Speaker 1: the year, where Daniel Jones did what he's gonna do
Speaker 1: once a game, a vicious strip sack where the ball
Speaker 1: floated around and then Devin Kennard rolled it in for
Speaker 1: a sixteen yeard touchdown to go up seven nothing. Giants
Speaker 1: bounced back very well from that. I thought that Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones did something else he's gonna do, which is row
Speaker 1: two very pretty passes, a couple of scores. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: looked good. He he The one thing about him is
Speaker 1: that he'll make that critical killer era where you might
Speaker 1: see another quarterback crumble mentally, and Jones does seem to
Speaker 1: bounce back from that and have a pretty short memory.
Speaker 1: The game just became sort of a flip plot between
Speaker 1: both teams going back and forth and the difference for
Speaker 1: me is that this year's Detroit Lions, and we saw
Speaker 1: a little bit of against Green Bay and some weeks
Speaker 1: going back there, you know, they were such a plotting
Speaker 1: whether it was passing or running a plotting attack for
Speaker 1: so long, even though people always like to site their
Speaker 1: comebacks in that one season all that stuff. They have
Speaker 1: explosive play capability and it is Gala day And even
Speaker 1: Danny A. Mondola today had a couple of big catches
Speaker 1: Marvin Hall. So Marvin Hall had a big touchdown. So
Speaker 1: you know, Detroit their three three and one. They just
Speaker 1: have that look of a team that's going to be
Speaker 1: eight seven and one or seven eight and one and
Speaker 1: drive their writer's nuts week to week and trive expectations
Speaker 1: if they're high nuts and when you think they're gone,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a game like this and hang around.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is having arguably his best season. You look
Speaker 1: at the numbers right now, he's fifth in the NFL
Speaker 1: and qb R. He's on pace to throw thirty five
Speaker 1: touchdowns just eight interceptions. He's on pace for another forty
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards season. And West we have this conversation
Speaker 1: before the season, and I remember you being maybe not
Speaker 1: even on the fence, more under of under the impression
Speaker 1: you know Stafford is not kind of a special guy.
Speaker 1: Has his play this season changed the way you feel
Speaker 1: at all? I think with Stafford he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys where you always know he's one of the most
Speaker 1: talented quarterbacks in the league, especially armed talent, but he's
Speaker 1: never beat good teams. So it's been like a more
Speaker 1: talented version of Kirk Cousins, and a lot of that's
Speaker 1: been coaching and surrounding talent and never having a running game.
Speaker 1: This year, I've been really impressed with him. I've always
Speaker 1: loved his pocket movement, and as I said earlier year,
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him with a better coach. He
Speaker 1: can't really argue with with what the coaching has done
Speaker 1: this year. The offense hasn't really been a problem for
Speaker 1: the long now. I think Darryl Buble has done a
Speaker 1: good job there. You know, they don't have much of
Speaker 1: a running game now without Carrie and Jones. I do
Speaker 1: wonder Carrie Kenyan Drake was held home by the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: He's getting moved for Monday night and so he's not
Speaker 1: injured so they're they're clearly looking to trade him. I
Speaker 1: think there will be a lot of trades that feels
Speaker 1: like a low cost trade that would maybe help the Lions.
Speaker 1: Well and Ian Rappaport are very own noted in a
Speaker 1: in a post this morning for NFL dot Com that
Speaker 1: the Lions are specifically interested in adding a running back.
Speaker 1: So you know, you put all that together, they have
Speaker 1: the need more than any team in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: right they started Tray Carson, who was on the Packers
Speaker 1: practice squad and moves like a fullback. So well, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they started, and but he got the
Speaker 1: most yards and carries. The Giants are having a player's
Speaker 1: only meeting tomorrow, so that means their season is officially open.
Speaker 1: Let's move on third and goal from the eight man
Speaker 1: you dropped the thrown looks scrambled to his right. Love
Speaker 1: pump still look still love pump fire for the ends. Well,
Speaker 1: i'd find the gay chart touts out shark attack in
Speaker 1: the corner. The jacket extimy, look at you, Frank Frangie.
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, great name, Jags Radio network gardner meansho the
Speaker 1: second he threw three touchdown passes, including that game clincher
Speaker 1: to g J sharka shark attack. Why do you pronounce it?
Speaker 1: Means you? Means you? Yea? I just like it? That okay?
Speaker 1: On our Thursday wrap up show, what did you how
Speaker 1: did you pronounce that one word? One? What was it again?
Speaker 1: I can't quagmire first? Quagmire? You said quagmire? Quagmire? Quagmire? Is?
Speaker 1: I say, means you? What do you say? Mensho? Better
Speaker 1: start saying Winsho. The Jaguars feasted on the jets poorous
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they're struggling quarterback at the big chlorine tank.
Speaker 1: The Jags had eight sacks, pressured Sam donald in to
Speaker 1: three interceptions, including a backbreaking pick midway through the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Meanshoe played incredibly well. He he, I mean he. I
Speaker 1: was really impressed. I was that you were asking to
Speaker 1: see something from and where are you now not see something?
Speaker 1: But I thought that it was with foals, you know,
Speaker 1: approaching health. I imagine I'm not like tracking this too closely,
Speaker 1: but I would think the timetables lining up where he's
Speaker 1: probably getting closer. Um, if me Andsho put together a
Speaker 1: few more bangers, it's gonna be very hard slash I
Speaker 1: possible to take him out. Well, this was a certified
Speaker 1: banger because he he did all the right things against
Speaker 1: the Jets. Um and his ability to extend plays was
Speaker 1: what really stood out to me. And when he extended plays,
Speaker 1: Um he was able to throw the ball with great touch.
Speaker 1: He didn't make mistakes. Um, he looked just a lot.
Speaker 1: He just looked a lot better than Sam Donald, who
Speaker 1: it was clearly regressing now and and he has to
Speaker 1: take a lot of some of that blame because he's
Speaker 1: making bad mistakes his interceptions. Again, while he didn't look
Speaker 1: even close to the guy that was totally lost against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. In fact, on the Jets opening possession, they
Speaker 1: went ninety yards and he went seven for seven with
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards in a touchdown pass. So there was progress.
Speaker 1: But he also you you see him trying to do
Speaker 1: too much, and you see the offensive line causing him
Speaker 1: to throw the ball when he shouldn't be throwing the
Speaker 1: ball and in general just not going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And again, Adam Gaze, his job here was to make
Speaker 1: Sam Donald better. So San Donald's not getting better and
Speaker 1: the team looks out classed on a weekly basis. You
Speaker 1: just have to start to ask questions. But on the
Speaker 1: Jaguar side, a nice win, uh Me and Schu looks
Speaker 1: great and that team is rejuvenated Without Jalen Ramsey and
Speaker 1: this Jets offensive line is bad, but it's not the
Speaker 1: only offensive line that has trouble. But with Klaas, Campbell,
Speaker 1: Yannick and gock Way and Josh Allen who have been
Speaker 1: excellent this year, this is a reinvigorated defensive front for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. They they've beaten up on, you know, some
Speaker 1: of the lesser teams over the last couple weeks. But
Speaker 1: therefore and four in that division is wide open. And
Speaker 1: the way mins She's playing, I'm with you. I I
Speaker 1: think if he continues to play like this, not only
Speaker 1: do you you know, just want to keep winning, and
Speaker 1: he think that maybe he gives you the best chance
Speaker 1: to win. You you really want to see what you
Speaker 1: have in this guy, because this team is not winning
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year most likely, but I think
Speaker 1: he would will affect the way you think about the
Speaker 1: quarterback position in the off season if he can play
Speaker 1: like this under person. I mean, Minshew is not just
Speaker 1: did not just outplay Sam Donald today, he is out
Speaker 1: playing Baker Mayfield this entire season, Josh Allen and everyone
Speaker 1: from that quarterback class two years ago outside of Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson right now, who is a completely just different type
Speaker 1: of human being on the football field. Why would you
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Nick Foles and you go in
Speaker 1: there and you have one of those games where you
Speaker 1: throw three interceptions, the place, the house is gonna go
Speaker 1: literally nuts on you. I I don't think you shake
Speaker 1: this up until Minshew does what Kyle Allen did, and
Speaker 1: you know, makes it inevitable for a change. He's totally different,
Speaker 1: different than Kyle Allen's right well, and falls is I
Speaker 1: think three weeks away from even being eligible. These things
Speaker 1: usually work themselves out one way or another. Either he'll
Speaker 1: just be too obviously good or not. I think the Jets,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, are in a tricky spot. You know,
Speaker 1: they have the new general manager. We've heard some players
Speaker 1: are available ahead of the trade deadline, but man, they
Speaker 1: in the first half of this game was two five
Speaker 1: yards to one oh three. So this this was a
Speaker 1: game where you went to a three and four team
Speaker 1: and all the stats say it was fairly one sided.
Speaker 1: And and now are you gonna are you gonna give
Speaker 1: away or trade away Leonard Williams and Robby Anderson. And
Speaker 1: it's just a tough it's a tough spot to be
Speaker 1: and not like those two guys are gonna sink them
Speaker 1: if let's say that they get traded. But it's a
Speaker 1: tough spot. It's a very tough spot. I suspect what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in here. I don't know how the trade
Speaker 1: deadline shakes out, but this seems to be trending in
Speaker 1: the direction of a near total tear down, which is
Speaker 1: of course not optimal considering ay they thought they were
Speaker 1: going in the right direction this year and started building
Speaker 1: a roster they thought, and that has all kind of
Speaker 1: blown up in their face. And it was choppy with
Speaker 1: the GM exchange. So I think the Jets are in
Speaker 1: a very bad spot. But again, you what you've heard
Speaker 1: about Donald does. Hopefully the Jets don't ruin Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: And you get so nervous that if Adam Gaye really
Speaker 1: is going to be this overmatched on a weekly basis, um,
Speaker 1: is he a guy that you really should consider one
Speaker 1: and done with and and next week is gonna be big?
Speaker 1: Because I think he's still probably somewhat safe. But if
Speaker 1: you go and you lose to the Dolphins, it's gonna
Speaker 1: turn into a massive public outcry situation and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens at How Jets management deals with that, well,
Speaker 1: they have a little bit of you know, motivation the
Speaker 1: Dolphins to stick it to Gaze I got, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what a total tear down means for
Speaker 1: someone like Levy on Bell, who doesn't look like he
Speaker 1: did a whole lot today either, but it's it's right.
Speaker 1: It's a tough sit I loved it. By the way,
Speaker 1: just like the Leonard for net box Score every week
Speaker 1: that's seventy six with a sixty six yards, it's happened
Speaker 1: like what happened happened? Then nobody has more like six
Speaker 1: yard losses than that guy. What happens when you're like
Speaker 1: really good straight ahead but you don't move side to
Speaker 1: side right, and he seems to think he could bail
Speaker 1: himself out of trouble when he starts shuffling around, it
Speaker 1: just turns into an outright disaster. Right, let's move on,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup in motion on the left side, it's a
Speaker 1: give and now it's an end around a toss back
Speaker 1: for a fleet flicker and God throws right side out midfield.
Speaker 1: It's Cooper Cup. The lock split you down the right sideline.
Speaker 1: He will pick it to do and hand around the
Speaker 1: reverse talk back fleet clicker for U six. Where did
Speaker 1: you go to design place like this? J? B Long
Speaker 1: wests neighbor and M J D of the Rams radio
Speaker 1: network have ad at Cooper Cup. The third third year
Speaker 1: wide receiver caught seven passes for a career best two
Speaker 1: twenty yards and that touched And you just heard the
Speaker 1: biggest play. Win four the Rams over the still windless
Speaker 1: Bengals at Wembley Stadium in London West. The Rams rolled
Speaker 1: up four hundred and seventy yards of offense in this one.
Speaker 1: Are they starting to get back on track? I guess
Speaker 1: you could say that, but they've played two tomato cans
Speaker 1: in the last two Falcons and Bengals. The Bengals played
Speaker 1: borderline respectable football on one side of the ball in
Speaker 1: each half. They out rushed the Rams. They're much maligned
Speaker 1: beleaguered will be gone. Ground attack out rushed the Rams
Speaker 1: in the first half and their defense actually did okay
Speaker 1: in the second half, but they also dropped three or
Speaker 1: four interceptions that golf through right to them. Um the Rams.
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler has four and a half sacks in the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. He's him on as a force. Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup two yards on seven catches. He had five catches
Speaker 1: of twenty yards in a single half the first half,
Speaker 1: which was the most and a half since Calvin Johnson
Speaker 1: eight years ago. This is a testament to the preseason
Speaker 1: level of cornerbacks that the Bengals are running out there.
Speaker 1: There is just so much open space in their secondary,
Speaker 1: a lot of miss tackles, missed interceptions, drops coverage bus
Speaker 1: It just looks like in August defense right now, because
Speaker 1: it really is. Their top three cornerbacks are all injured.
Speaker 1: The Rams, though, sometimes the schedules, not just the overall drink.
Speaker 1: This guy just when you get teams they really needed
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Bengals the last couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: they get to their by now coming home from London.
Speaker 1: They have Jalen Ramsey. They're not running the ball well
Speaker 1: still even against the Bengals that you know, they don't
Speaker 1: top a hundred yards. Girly doesn't have a big day,
Speaker 1: but I do think they're They're in at five and
Speaker 1: three there next to after the buyer, the Steelers in Bears.
Speaker 1: They're not in a terrible spot. They're finding what they've
Speaker 1: found ways to stay right in the playoff mix without
Speaker 1: being at their best. They're just gonna have to be
Speaker 1: a lot better in the second half. Yeah, and just
Speaker 1: learned to be a committee backfield, because let's stop pretending
Speaker 1: that anything else is happening with that cast two players
Speaker 1: right now. I love that Taylor wrapped their second round
Speaker 1: rookie at safety is now playing full time snaps and
Speaker 1: leading the team and tackles. I think that might even
Speaker 1: be an upgrade over John Johnson there. He is a
Speaker 1: good player. The one worried coming out of this game,
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was concussed and this is an ongoing issue
Speaker 1: for him, going back to that big hit he took
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 1: don't know how long he'll be out this time. That
Speaker 1: was that's his fourth concussion since Super both a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, we had this conversation that after the third
Speaker 1: concussion we were getting into danger territory. Austin Collie is
Speaker 1: a name that came up. It's a horrible thought because
Speaker 1: that guy is a star wide receiver when he's right,
Speaker 1: but he just seems prone to this and it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it usually doesn't because he's been out cold, when he's
Speaker 1: been out going back to his days with the Saints.
Speaker 1: So it didn't even just start at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's you would be surprised if you
Speaker 1: saw him again, right he come back this season? To
Speaker 1: bring him back if he's had two in a month,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a brain injuries. We don't know what
Speaker 1: the team knows, so we'll defer to them, but it
Speaker 1: feels and they're going to enjoy this bit move. It's
Speaker 1: not a bit, it is like interconnected with everything we
Speaker 1: do all week long. Let's move up, boy, fank Lust
Speaker 1: looks who's gonna flow the back and he's a wide
Speaker 1: open its Metcaff cuts down Seahawks like a buzzer every
Speaker 1: time we start, and Cooley and calmly dropped that ball
Speaker 1: over the top to a wide open DK Metcalf and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have pushed the Metals all the way down
Speaker 1: to the floor, leading twenty three nothing Battle to the Metal.
Speaker 1: Another way to say that, Steve see Hawks Radio Network.
Speaker 1: D K Metcalf good rookie the watch receiver hooked up
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson for two short touchdowns. Chris Carson added
Speaker 1: ninety yards on the ground. I had a touchdown as well,
Speaker 1: win for the Seahawks over the moribund Atlanta Falcons. Greg
Speaker 1: The Seahawks jumped zip here before coasting to the finish.
Speaker 1: I guess with Matt Ryan sideline, this was never gonna
Speaker 1: be a fair fight. It wasn't and yet to go
Speaker 1: off the play by plays analogy. You know if if
Speaker 1: the floor pedal too was to the medal in the
Speaker 1: first half, they just stuck that thing in neutral and
Speaker 1: they were trying to save gas and they were just
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're listening to a podcast. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Pete Carroll is doing in the second half
Speaker 1: because we talked. I talked about it going into this game.
Speaker 1: Can they win a game convincingly by a couple of scores?
Speaker 1: Or is Pete Carroll gonna keep playing to what he
Speaker 1: thinks his team is good at defense and running. It
Speaker 1: played almost exactly too that Tyler Lockett was unbelievable. All
Speaker 1: six of his targets for a hundred yards. Some of
Speaker 1: these catches and throws were just outrageous. You would think
Speaker 1: Pete Carrold want to see more of that. But what
Speaker 1: happened in the second half is they ran the ball,
Speaker 1: had three three and outs, and they played to their defense,
Speaker 1: and their defense isn't that good? And you know, I
Speaker 1: you know, you know when you know your defense and
Speaker 1: that good when Matt Shop lights you up for four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards stope sixties that's right, nine yards
Speaker 1: per attempt. Yeah, but is this we're talking garbage time? Right?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean they got it to within one possession, yes,
Speaker 1: there was. You never felt like the Seahawks were in trouble,
Speaker 1: and when they were, they made a nice field goal drive.
Speaker 1: But they also fumbled the ball at the one yard
Speaker 1: line in the second half. So this game could have
Speaker 1: been closer. I'm not calling it garbage time if they
Speaker 1: had got it close and they fumbled the ball at
Speaker 1: the one to stop. One way to throw your opponent
Speaker 1: off is to say, oh, we have match Shop filing
Speaker 1: in under center. We're gonna throw the ball fifty two times.
Speaker 1: See how you respected? Yea. They fell behind so early,
Speaker 1: and he did make some fine throws, he was moving
Speaker 1: the ball. He made a couple really big mistakes he
Speaker 1: still had, you know, some shot. You think it motivates
Speaker 1: him to hear the endless stream of jokes at match shops,
Speaker 1: expense filing into the public Twitter sphere all week long,
Speaker 1: people going, you know, you would never add this guy,
Speaker 1: and what if someone added this guy to the fantasy team.
Speaker 1: Good for them, they probably did well. That it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of a it's a tough moment for Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: that when Matt Schob comes in and it's like, match Shob,
Speaker 1: wasn't your problem. It again, was your defense giving up
Speaker 1: three straight touchdown. Well, and Arthur Blank, the Falcons owner,
Speaker 1: who I think has been very obviously very supportive of
Speaker 1: the whole dan quinn h earth implosion at this point,
Speaker 1: said that who he was in quotes extraordinarily disappointed in
Speaker 1: the Falcons season. That is kind of typically code word
Speaker 1: for changes by ahead. He's I don't, I don't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Quinn's evening to make it to January one. Well,
Speaker 1: they're here, Yeah, they're here at the bye weeks, and
Speaker 1: it could be you know, by the time we reconvene Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we could be talking about it, which would be too bad.
Speaker 1: It's not like I think this team is gonna suddenly
Speaker 1: turn around with with any other coach. But I get it,
Speaker 1: it happened. I could see him. Yeah, well, we have
Speaker 1: a off season to talk about it. But he seems
Speaker 1: like a classic go back via d C do a
Speaker 1: good job and get a second crack at a guy. Right.
Speaker 1: I I'm more if I'm a Sax fan, I'm worried.
Speaker 1: I'm more worried just about the lack of pass um
Speaker 1: uh rush. Two sacks against this quarterback and Oline Combo
Speaker 1: fifty two throws. Like if you look at the PF ratings,
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's great all across the board, and
Speaker 1: that's a bad sign. Jenevan Clowney had a nice game,
Speaker 1: except for a bunch of killer penalties, but he he
Speaker 1: had some pressures. Four quarterback hits, but he had pressures.
Speaker 1: But other than that, they're not getting anything. And Ziggians
Speaker 1: has been a big time free agent. But it was
Speaker 1: just about that's a total surprise. Though I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I just had a curiosity. I clicked into Clowney's numbers
Speaker 1: and today was just the second sack of the season.
Speaker 1: I guess he's just never gonna be a guy that
Speaker 1: puts up huge. He's made it. He's been a very
Speaker 1: valuable addition to We hear that about him every year,
Speaker 1: which I'm not I'm not de meeting his player anything,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess he's just never going to be
Speaker 1: a guy that He's not a monster all pro producer.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be that guy. He's not going
Speaker 1: to be a fifteen to eighteen sack guy. He's more
Speaker 1: like a nine and like eighteen sack guy, which is
Speaker 1: why Bill O'Brien didn't want him around anymore. You know,
Speaker 1: you know who the Texans could use though, trade for
Speaker 1: him back, give up a first rounder for him the
Speaker 1: biggest contract ever for Defensylvan Speaking of trade, Rahad Penny's
Speaker 1: name has come up as someone that teams are calling interesting.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of big runs today in the
Speaker 1: first half. They're going anti Kenyan Drake with their Sunday approach. Great,
Speaker 1: a great headline on the gm app for that, Penny
Speaker 1: for your thoughts. I love it. You know, it's like,
Speaker 1: let's get into the combo. Yeah, we are really dropping
Speaker 1: the ball, the bag, whatever it is on this whole
Speaker 1: gm app thing. Let's move on it. Like a parentheses
Speaker 1: for draft picks, case penny for your penny. Down on
Speaker 1: the first hour, Mike Keith with the call Titans Radio Network,
Speaker 1: Darrell Casey. Darrell Casey exploded into the backfield and blew
Speaker 1: up Peyton Barber on fourth and one, ending the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: final real scoring threat and helping to lift the Titans
Speaker 1: to a twenty seven to three wind. That's two straight
Speaker 1: wins for Tennessee since Ryan Tannehill replaced Marcus Mariotta in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. West This Titans defense, they could play right,
Speaker 1: they can, but this was this was about a mistake
Speaker 1: prone Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense. And it's weird because you could,
Speaker 1: as Bruce Bruce Arians did after the game, excuse the
Speaker 1: quarterback from all four of his turnovers. You could look
Speaker 1: at it and say it was the receiver's fault into
Speaker 1: two interceptions. It was the offensive lines fault into two fumbles.
Speaker 1: And it's a little disingenuous that Bruce Arians went there
Speaker 1: when his quarterback spent the entire game throwing the ball
Speaker 1: up for grabs, often to his benefit because Mike Evans
Speaker 1: was making plays. But there were a handful of plays
Speaker 1: where the closest the closest player to the ball was
Speaker 1: a Titans defender, and Winston was lucky not to be
Speaker 1: picked on at least five plays. So I think it
Speaker 1: was disingenuous. But this is the version of Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: were getting after games now, just disingenuous. Like the time
Speaker 1: said he claimed that he pushed his kicker back whatever
Speaker 1: to cover for some other mistake. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what we're getting out of Bruce Arians, but I do
Speaker 1: know what we're getting out of Jameis Winston, and it's
Speaker 1: sloppy play, a frantic quarterback who does not handle pressure
Speaker 1: well and finds himself running around behind the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage on most of his dropbacks. And yet the outgame
Speaker 1: the Titans, they probably had a better defensive Part of
Speaker 1: that is because all these turnovers gave the ball to
Speaker 1: the Titans at the ten yard line, and you can't
Speaker 1: get a lot of yards, and you only have ten
Speaker 1: yards before the end zone. That checks out. I do
Speaker 1: think Arians did call Mike Evans, who had a hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety eight yards and two touchdowns, the best, the
Speaker 1: most talented receiver he's ever coached. What in that mix there? Well,
Speaker 1: he got the he got the end of career. He
Speaker 1: had Antonio Brown at one point, didn't he Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was with the cults. I mean when you watch
Speaker 1: Mike Evans playing a game like this, like said, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you think that that is
Speaker 1: that trying to poor positive? I mean you can look
Speaker 1: at Mike Evans play and say this guy should never
Speaker 1: be stopped. Oh, you have to do is throw the
Speaker 1: ball up for grabs and and no cornerback can stop
Speaker 1: him because he's a stretch forward and cleats. And that's
Speaker 1: how he looked today. He was doing this against Kevin Bayard,
Speaker 1: against Logan Ryan, against Lashawn Simms, who had no prayer
Speaker 1: against him. It was a big Mike Evans game. But
Speaker 1: um credit to the Titans. Ryan Tannehill had a huge
Speaker 1: ninety yard twelve play drive when the Bucks had taken
Speaker 1: control of the game and the Titans had moved had
Speaker 1: not moved the ball in two quarters they you know,
Speaker 1: on that drive, Derrick Henry had a forty two yard
Speaker 1: run called back on a holding penalty first and twenty.
Speaker 1: It looks like the Titans are never gonna get their
Speaker 1: offense going, and Tannehill moved the change with a couple
Speaker 1: of tight window throws. You know you can't come away
Speaker 1: like tremendously impressed with the Titans, especially when they call
Speaker 1: a fourth and two fake field goal and let their
Speaker 1: unathletic punter try to beat Devin White, a linebacker in
Speaker 1: the open field. It was just Titans are never really
Speaker 1: asking us to come away overly impressed with. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're back to four and four, though the dream of
Speaker 1: the fourth straight nine and seven is alive. It's tree.
Speaker 1: There are three minutes of forty five seconds left in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Titans onions, hanging them for days Zeppelin onions.
Speaker 1: But Brett Kerran, You're asking him to turn the corner
Speaker 1: and get that first down. He gets absolutely leveled. He
Speaker 1: fumbows the ball, He fombows the ball, scooped up by
Speaker 1: the Bucks running for the go ahead, game winning touchdown.
Speaker 1: Bucks win. No, they blew the whistle again. They did
Speaker 1: it again, and the Bucks are annoyed about it, as
Speaker 1: they should be, just like Sean Payton was annoyed about it,
Speaker 1: because you can't get that wrong. That was a scoop
Speaker 1: and score that should have won that game, and it
Speaker 1: got taken away because an official did the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: And I thought this would be cleaned up a little bit,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like it was because the Saints made
Speaker 1: such a stink about it. Rightly so in week two.
Speaker 1: But here we are again costing another team in a
Speaker 1: huge spot. It's it's it's unacceptable. Can't happen? Well said,
Speaker 1: I'd prefer to point the finger at Mike Vrabel, who
Speaker 1: never met a trick special teams play he didn't love.
Speaker 1: But this was one of the most telegraphed fake field
Speaker 1: goals you will ever see. It was obvious that he
Speaker 1: wanted no part of a field goal there. They went
Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage, tried to get the
Speaker 1: defense to jump off sides, acted like they were going
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and two, and then they run the
Speaker 1: fake field goal because they don't trust double joint any
Speaker 1: parky Um. One final thought on this game. The game
Speaker 1: coverage on Fox well us. Both both of us were
Speaker 1: quite happy to hear an exuberant, healthy sounding Matt millen
Speaker 1: Uh doing his thing. He's always been really good at this.
Speaker 1: I I totally agree. I think people he's gotten a
Speaker 1: bad name because of his general manager um experience, but
Speaker 1: I think he's always been a good announcer, and I
Speaker 1: love to see a guy who has I mean, he
Speaker 1: was on his deathbed. We weren't sure if he was
Speaker 1: ever going to be able to do this again, and
Speaker 1: now he is enjoying it, and he's good at it.
Speaker 1: He has someone else's heart. A miracle of modern medicine.
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear Actually, I just want to play that
Speaker 1: Jarrell Casey the big stop. Just a shout out to
Speaker 1: Matt Millen, who is alive and kicking. Watch this. Watch
Speaker 1: Jerrell case right in the middle, he's right here. Oh,
Speaker 1: look at he just lulled him. That's awesome. Troe. Casually
Speaker 1: you get a star in your helmet too, That's Oh,
Speaker 1: what a great job on the top side. That is
Speaker 1: just awesome. I love Chris Marin, especially when it looks
Speaker 1: like that. I think, I think it's a purer moment.
Speaker 1: It's a better experience, and you save it more when
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be taken away from you for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And that's what happened with
Speaker 1: Matt Millett s broken. I'm also impressed that we had
Speaker 1: two of the four of us uh heavily monitoring Titans Bucks.
Speaker 1: You can't look away from those Titans. Baby, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Also four down lineman dropping the throw with black Yall
Speaker 1: steps up into the pocket. Past time. Now he's telling
Speaker 1: roll for us right, here's the balls in the thirty
Speaker 1: yard line. The Hanna go hit him the football and
Speaker 1: the loose football is picked up by the Broncos. The
Speaker 1: clock is running though. We're down to poor. We're down
Speaker 1: to three. The Broncos can't pick get back the light
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, said that scene of the game. But call
Speaker 1: st called switter. The Broncos got back to it, but
Speaker 1: they could not get back to the light of scrimmage
Speaker 1: before the game clock expired. Him that's the end of
Speaker 1: the game. But called switter. Fifteen thirteen. Matt Taylor Cults
Speaker 1: Radio Network with the call. Adam Vinatieri made a fifty
Speaker 1: one yard field goal twenty two seconds to play, and
Speaker 1: then Ben Banago put the final touches on the game
Speaker 1: with a punishing sack of blackout Joe Flacco, locking up
Speaker 1: a fifteen thirteen win for the Colts over the Broncos
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Market seems that all the Colts
Speaker 1: know how to do is play close games. Luckily, they're
Speaker 1: good at those they are, and I mean this, This
Speaker 1: game took on a somewhat flavorless approach for a big
Speaker 1: chunk of the time. But I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: fine if you're a Cults fan or if you're the
Speaker 1: coach of the Cults, because you don't mind being in
Speaker 1: these games. You don't hind you don't have an arsenal
Speaker 1: of weapons that are going to produce gigantic plays. You're
Speaker 1: not going to get some of these box scores that
Speaker 1: some of these other teams are producing. The Broncos have
Speaker 1: played well on defense for a while now, and they
Speaker 1: did that again. They really shut Jacoby Brissette and the
Speaker 1: Colts attacked down to the point where I thought Marlon
Speaker 1: Mack is just not the guy he's been in other weeks.
Speaker 1: They weren't able to get into any sort of a flow.
Speaker 1: But the play of the game, which you know, we
Speaker 1: showed the sack of flak at the end, and the Broncos,
Speaker 1: as they will do on offense, had the ball twice
Speaker 1: in the final seven minutes up thirteen and twelve and
Speaker 1: did nothing with it. And that's fine. We've been all
Speaker 1: over Denver's offense for what they are. They traded away
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. They're not gonna get any better. And the
Speaker 1: Colts defense, if they're a rather no namesh operation, they
Speaker 1: got the job done well. They just played well from
Speaker 1: wire to wire today. Jacobe Brissette avoided in the end
Speaker 1: zone on the game winning field goal drive what would
Speaker 1: have been a crushing hit from von Miller to unleash
Speaker 1: a really beautiful thirty five yard connection to two. It
Speaker 1: really was, because it really was. And I and Brissette
Speaker 1: is not perfect, and he's not always easy to watch,
Speaker 1: and whether sometimes even the way he has wind up
Speaker 1: in the way he throws the ball is just bizarre.
Speaker 1: And I know West, he's not your favorite quarterback on
Speaker 1: the play. But the Colts don't care what the around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast thinks about their playing style. They don't
Speaker 1: really need to too. They got that in that drive.
Speaker 1: I support Jacoby Rissette. Frank, if you're out there, we're
Speaker 1: all good. He I know that drive also drove Greg
Speaker 1: nuts because the Cults seemed content to line up for
Speaker 1: a game winning field goal and not a gimme by
Speaker 1: Adam Vinitari. After vinitarian missed p a T and missed
Speaker 1: a I believe a forty five yarder, but it nailed
Speaker 1: some other long kicks, I think a fifty five yarder
Speaker 1: in that dome, So they were you know, they could
Speaker 1: have maybe pressed the issue a little bit to get
Speaker 1: closer or even go for the score. They seem very
Speaker 1: into the Adam Vinitary experience where they want to a
Speaker 1: they didn't give up on him earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: but lift him up whenever he gets into trouble. And
Speaker 1: he came out of this game making the kicks, so
Speaker 1: they look good. That That's all great analysis, Mark, But
Speaker 1: what I love the most about where are we going
Speaker 1: from here? Why does what? Where are we qualifying the butt?
Speaker 1: All I care about is angry Joe Flacco at the podium,
Speaker 1: please yeah, annoyed with his offen his conservative approach. Listen
Speaker 1: to Joey flax here. Well, I mean, come on, I
Speaker 1: I just look at it like we're now a two
Speaker 1: and six football team and we're like afraid to go
Speaker 1: for it in a two minute drill, you know, like,
Speaker 1: who cares if you give the ball back to the
Speaker 1: guys with a minute forty seconds that they obviously got
Speaker 1: the field goal anyway, And once again we're a two
Speaker 1: and six football team, and it just feels like we're
Speaker 1: kind of afraid to lose a game. It's third and
Speaker 1: five at the end of the game. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's who cares if they have a time out there
Speaker 1: at the end or not. You know, getting in field
Speaker 1: goal range isn't that tough? Uh? You know, so you're
Speaker 1: just putting your defense in these bad situations, and um,
Speaker 1: I just felt like, what do we have to lose? Like,
Speaker 1: why can't we be aggressive in some of these situations.
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel about a lot of
Speaker 1: the game today. We never hear Joe Flacco like that.
Speaker 1: He's been in the league forever, and you know, that's
Speaker 1: a shot across the bout. First year offensive COORDINATORI scang
Speaker 1: Garrello Stang as we call him, and the head coach
Speaker 1: or the head coach if fees the one you know,
Speaker 1: saying I want to run, I want to run here.
Speaker 1: You know, could hear Flacco and I've you know, been
Speaker 1: in this situation. Sometimes when you're speaking and as you're
Speaker 1: getting to the end of your point, you realize, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna piss off my superiors, and you just
Speaker 1: start to you start to trail off a little. But
Speaker 1: you still gotta like finish the point. Yeah, you still
Speaker 1: have to finish the point out. He was right. It's
Speaker 1: the situation he's talking about. His third and five at
Speaker 1: the colts forty three yard line. One first down wins
Speaker 1: the game. The Colts only have one time out and
Speaker 1: they run the ball up the middle for no game.
Speaker 1: You have five yards to go win a game. I
Speaker 1: know it's Flacco, but the time out doesn't matter. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. That's what he's really getting to is this
Speaker 1: old school post. Let's take their time out, they can
Speaker 1: go get a field goal. They did it easily. I
Speaker 1: think he speaks for Broncos fans to who you know Flacco. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's part of the issue, and he's limited at quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's seeing a ton of starts and he's right
Speaker 1: about this. The Broncos want to win games under Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio ten to seven and good luck. That's football that.
Speaker 1: I think he's right, And I also think there were
Speaker 1: a lot of Broncos writers and Broncos fans who were
Speaker 1: left wondering after that podium appearance, why don't you play
Speaker 1: with that fire that you're you know, the words are
Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth let's see your playing style reflected.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Sunday night football staff.
Speaker 1: Rodgers looking pump bigs now still looking under pressure, pulls
Speaker 1: it right side of the end side? Is it Carton?
Speaker 1: It is caught in the back line of the ends
Speaker 1: sational away to Jamar Williams. Goodness is in the far
Speaker 1: right corner of the end zone. You gotta go back
Speaker 1: to the throw and Aaron Rodgers, he's going backwards and
Speaker 1: he's throws bulls my consttle pass that was by Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers style. Wayne Laravy and Larry mccaren with the call
Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network. These are the good days on the
Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network because the home team is a good team,
Speaker 1: a great team. Seven and one now after a thirty
Speaker 1: one win over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead, Rogers
Speaker 1: to Jamal Williams, one of the best throws you'll see.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and it's more lights out play from the Green
Speaker 1: Bay quarterback. Who finishes twenty three or thirty three for
Speaker 1: three five yards and three touchdowns without a pick. Chris
Speaker 1: Westling the Pack Listen, no Patrick Mahomes, but the Pack
Speaker 1: another very impressive win in prime time. Who I think
Speaker 1: even when you have one of the all time great
Speaker 1: in a sport, the fan base gets a little concerned,
Speaker 1: in a little worried when they go through an extended
Speaker 1: slump like the Packers did last year. And for what
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has done the last three games probably ranks
Speaker 1: with any three game stretch of his career. He's been
Speaker 1: just unbelievable, a one fifty to passer rating the last
Speaker 1: two games. Uh, he had quite a few drops against
Speaker 1: the Lions that were in his fault. He's just been
Speaker 1: playing transcendent football. It's been fun to watch. And this
Speaker 1: is without his number one receiver, Davante Adams. They're only
Speaker 1: gonna get stronger, They're only gonna get better. Uh, that
Speaker 1: rhythm between Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers and now, as
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, the former Lions quarterback pointed out, la Flora
Speaker 1: has found a way to use Aaron Jones the way
Speaker 1: that Sean McVeigh used to use Todd Gurley as a
Speaker 1: dual purpose threat, a receiving threat. And and it makes
Speaker 1: you automatically think, what was Mike McCarthy missing about Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones that he didn't use him as a receiver. In
Speaker 1: to Jones's credit, he's really he's improved tremendously in that area. Well,
Speaker 1: he's been one of the most dynamic, explosive running backs
Speaker 1: in the league all season. Now he's not getting the
Speaker 1: usage that was gonna, you know, carry fantasy teams every week,
Speaker 1: although he's had the touchdowns to do it. But this game,
Speaker 1: he had a hundred and fifty nine yards as a
Speaker 1: either hundred twenty seven when aligned out wide as a
Speaker 1: wide out the next Gen Stats that blows any other
Speaker 1: game in the four years that Next Gen Stats has
Speaker 1: been keeping track of this out of the water in
Speaker 1: terms of catching passes a wide receiver. And I love
Speaker 1: this because Matt Lafleur saw weakness and he went after it,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs never fixed it. Now, I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of different things you have to stop when
Speaker 1: you stop the Packers, but at a certain point, if
Speaker 1: they keep putting a linebacker out there, then you're just
Speaker 1: gonna keep throwing it to him. You gotta change it up.
Speaker 1: And they didn't. And so right down to the last
Speaker 1: play of the game, it's third and five, very similar
Speaker 1: situation of the one Joe Flacco was honking about and
Speaker 1: you know what Matt Lafleur did. You could read his
Speaker 1: lips on the sideline. He said, let's go win. Let's
Speaker 1: go get win. That's what you want from your head coach.
Speaker 1: You want confidence in the belief in your players to execute.
Speaker 1: It helps to have Aaron Rodgers on your side. Does
Speaker 1: But I mean Matt Lafleur, I think for in terms
Speaker 1: of looking fifteen years younger than most head coaches, in
Speaker 1: terms of people thinking that Aaron Rodgers maybe didn't really
Speaker 1: respect Matt Lafleur at the beginning of this journey, the
Speaker 1: pregame comments with Mike Tarico interviewing Aaron Rodgers, I thought
Speaker 1: put all that to bed in the sense that Rogers
Speaker 1: wants to win number one. That's happening right now, and
Speaker 1: I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I I
Speaker 1: cannot think of a more magical way to cap the
Speaker 1: one d NFL season then Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick who's been around forever against Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: a first year head coach in Matt Leflour, that's doing
Speaker 1: everything you could have asked that none of that may happen.
Speaker 1: Stands have had have been in the playoffs, over and
Speaker 1: over and over Bill Belichick against Matt Lafleur in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But you know, I'm just saying a Rogers
Speaker 1: Brady matchup, and I'm talking about Rogers not with Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: but Rogers with this new relationship. That's no match up
Speaker 1: right now because Rogers Brady is in the expert game
Speaker 1: manager stage of his career, which is a nice place
Speaker 1: to be. Rogers is at the height of his powers
Speaker 1: right now. He also has weapons on his offensive line
Speaker 1: that are protecting him. This what Rogers said it after
Speaker 1: the game. He didn't have to do much. He had
Speaker 1: the throw to Kumaro in the first quarter, which was
Speaker 1: one of the one of the top ten throws of
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers season, which is an amazing top ten list
Speaker 1: right now. He had the touchdown. Other than that, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of throws to Aaron Jones out wide,
Speaker 1: and you know, he didn't have to do too much.
Speaker 1: They're running the ball well. The Chiefs defense was very
Speaker 1: shorthand and no Frank Clark, no Kendall Fuller, no Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: so they should score a lot of points on them,
Speaker 1: and they did well. They scored a lot more points
Speaker 1: that were called back on penalties. Aaron Jones seemed like
Speaker 1: he was scoring every time he touched the ball for
Speaker 1: a while. Alright, So the Chiefs are in a little
Speaker 1: bit of trouble right now. They're five and three, which
Speaker 1: is okay. Three losses at Arrowhead. Good performance by Matt
Speaker 1: Moore though shot by Matt Moore through two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: certainly did not kill them and got hot to get
Speaker 1: them back in the game after they fell behind fourteen.
Speaker 1: Nothing early, but it wasn't enough. You look ahead, they
Speaker 1: got the Vikings. Um, that's gonna be a tough game.
Speaker 1: Then at Tennessee, and we're hearing it's possible that Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is back for that game. They need to get
Speaker 1: their star in the lineup, uh and win this division.
Speaker 1: They're in the right division. I don't think it's time
Speaker 1: to worry about the Chiefs. I think Kansas City, though,
Speaker 1: would have after what happened last January, coming into this year,
Speaker 1: the goal would have been host New England this time.
Speaker 1: And you know, no, that's a lot would need to
Speaker 1: happen for that to even be a possibility. No, the
Speaker 1: divisions right for them, and really the conference. Their goal
Speaker 1: is to get my homes back healthy and get a
Speaker 1: buy and I think that is right in front of
Speaker 1: them to to accomplish. I don't think that's out of
Speaker 1: it too. And who knows Baltimore, New England next week,
Speaker 1: you know, find a way next week. Alright, we could
Speaker 1: go wrong for Baltimore. That Vikings team is rolling right,
Speaker 1: NFC North is crazy right now, there's fans. You already
Speaker 1: have a loss to the Packers. You're three and four,
Speaker 1: the Vikings are seven and one. I mean, that feels
Speaker 1: over for the Bears right now. And that is an
Speaker 1: incredible race where the loser between the Vikings and the
Speaker 1: Packers are gonna have to be on the road and
Speaker 1: to start the playoffs. News, old, old news. And before
Speaker 1: we sign off, this was a tough day for you, Mark,
Speaker 1: not talking about the Browns. Shack Barrett got his tenth
Speaker 1: sack of the season. I'm sorry, I mean, we're all sorry.
Speaker 1: My prediction at least, I'll say this. It feels like
Speaker 1: it was a month and a half ago that he
Speaker 1: had eight and then he had nine suddenly, and then
Speaker 1: he stuck it and he stood at nine for a while.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you you predented it was not sack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you said he would not get it. It's he's
Speaker 1: had four games since and he has two sacks in
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, that's that's okay. I mean there
Speaker 1: was something to it well, and it was not just
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett or late. But what is it about Jack
Speaker 1: Barrett that you personally We've already been there. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is redundant for anyone that's listening to more than
Speaker 1: one episode at this point. Taysom Hill, good day. Then
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill scored great. All right, we'll be back Tuesday.
Speaker 1: They both suck. How about that? Um? One more? One
Speaker 1: sucks just a little more, That's true. One is a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a disappointment, though, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it depends who you're asking, Like, who is your dad
Speaker 1: more disappointed with the Browns of the Jets? I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is going nowhere. All right. We will be back
Speaker 1: on Tuesday with a great episode. It's trade deadline Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be here recording right as the deadline hits,
Speaker 1: and so make sure you check in on that. And
Speaker 1: then of course, you know it goes. We'll preview the
Speaker 1: first game of week nine and we do the whole
Speaker 1: thing again. We are a well oiled machine right now,
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Then had the signing off
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old boss Rick Hollywood
Speaker 1: behind the glass, everyone else find the glass. Thanks everybody.
Speaker 1: Tail Tuesday,