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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, Assout. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. My name is Dan hands Us. I'm

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Speaker 1: joining in the room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wrestling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is a boys? Oh Sunday Night,

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Speaker 1: the flagship show week West. I heard there's some drama

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Speaker 1: going down in the newsroom. I ran down to the

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Speaker 1: newsroom to pick up my hat because it's a little

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Speaker 1: cool in here, and the whole newsroom was buzzing about

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Speaker 1: an incident at your vacant desk. Hamona Homina, one of

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Speaker 1: the beers, and I p a that that our listeners,

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Speaker 1: one of our listeners sent to us a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, exploded all over your dusk and into the

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Speaker 1: office of a shadowy list Yeah, next to you. It's

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Speaker 1: all over this floor. They're gonna have to get the

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Speaker 1: cleaning people in here, not just anyhow out a league figure.

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Speaker 1: Dave shot Otherwise is a nice guy, but he is

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Speaker 1: an insufferable New England sports fan who is right in

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Speaker 1: a little too high on the paths and the and

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Speaker 1: the socks and the Bruins, and it drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: Because all my teams suck. Uh So this feels like

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Speaker 1: cosmically the why that beer was always feels right at

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Speaker 1: that spot in my desk, that pressurized content blew a

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Speaker 1: hole in the top of the beer can and makes

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Speaker 1: me wonder why I spent twenty five years of my

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Speaker 1: life drinking something with that kind of power. What could

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Speaker 1: have been doing to our bodies? I will when you

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Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned that there was a chaotic scene happy

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Speaker 1: at Dan's desk, and I whispered into your ear. You now,

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Speaker 1: as I do all the time, I love to deal

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Speaker 1: it with beer can has been on your rate has

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Speaker 1: because I'll often I'll often walk by Dan's desk and

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Speaker 1: the beer can made a explosive sound around six months

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Speaker 1: ago or so, that alert taking time by the right

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Speaker 1: because it was one of these cans where it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you find it. It's been somewhere refrigerator for far too long,

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Speaker 1: and the top looked like it was ready to pop.

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Speaker 1: And so every time I walked, but I thought, something

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Speaker 1: is not right with that bullet about to be shot

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Speaker 1: into the ceiling instead of shot into shots house. This

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Speaker 1: is the worst moment for shot since Uh that barbed

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Speaker 1: I it is on my desk. It's beer. It's an

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Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage on the premises on your desk. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I will not return to the scene of the crime

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Speaker 1: tonight because I'd be like, I just need to get

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Speaker 1: as far away as possible. I would put it this.

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Speaker 1: Right before I turned the corner to walk into the newsroom,

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing was, you know, danst does anyone anywhere

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Speaker 1: in the crowded, packed news room filled with people, very

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Speaker 1: able bodied people, anyone making any effort to clean it

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Speaker 1: a person. Until I went down there, nobody had touched

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Speaker 1: the crime scene. I drama. Drama in the newsroom. Right.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to at to today, and we

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Speaker 1: have teams remaining undefeated and looking damn good and doing

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Speaker 1: get too early in the show. Uh So let's get

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Speaker 1: really Gregg jumped out at us as a pure lead

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Speaker 1: the show. Maybe give the Niners shine. So let's do

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Speaker 1: funny seven of three lead down to funny seven jet

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Ninos radio network, Greg Papa with a

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half, and oh my goodness, Dick Bosa,

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Speaker 1: you are a star. At three sacks and a leaping

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Speaker 1: interception the Niners. They stay on beatt fifty burger over

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. West Carolina came into the Big Bell Bottom

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Speaker 1: Since the forty Niners Week four by they have treated

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Speaker 1: scheming in there with it. He had some brilliant place today,

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Speaker 1: for twenty yards. This was a complete undressing. We've said

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Speaker 1: general should take a look at the traits of Super

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Speaker 1: That's how you separate great teams from good teams. The

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Speaker 1: that you win convincingly. And the Panthers came into this

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Speaker 1: because you did play someone when you played Cleveland and

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Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself, if we're gonna start seeing teams,

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Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself when a guy like that

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Speaker 1: important than your brilliant offensive mind. Before we move on,

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Speaker 1: we love our old friend Dick Stockton. We we had

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Speaker 1: I can see how that can happen. Wentz the gun

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Speaker 1: you have been waiting for that time. Time now for

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Speaker 1: Road to Victory presented by the United States Spreen Corps.

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Speaker 1: Can you say statement win? Yes, Greg, that's a statement win.

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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders the play of the game. That's sixty five

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Speaker 1: making some big plays for Chubb, some creative looks. Chubb

431
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Speaker 1: ran really well. I think they want to do short passing.

432
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: We joined, you know, as you said, Joe Thomas and

433
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hawkins on their show that the Tomahawks show, uh tonight,

434
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Speaker 1: and they were so disappointed because they're they're doing the

435
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: short passing in theory to eliminate some mistakes and have

436
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: things be in rhythm, and they weren't in rhythm. You know,

437
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: you still had that interception, you still had the O.

438
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: B J drop at a at a key spot. You

439
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: weren't you know, making explosive plays down the field. And

440
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: you have to give a you know, a ton of

441
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: credit to to Stephan Gilmour who was guarding Beckham and

442
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: the rest of the Patriots defense. Any other thoughts on

443
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: this game? Job? I did hear Mark remains undefeated in

444
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: his first quarter uh pronunciations? He pronounced this game over?

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Speaker 1: What the blank? Was that? All? Right? This thing's over

446
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: late first quarter of attend to nothing game. Well, that

447
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: could have been applied, honestly, more to this Browns game

448
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: than than any in a long time, because they just

449
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 1: well again it's sixteen penalties and three turnovers. That is

450
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: twenty instances. That that that completely foiled my optimism. Uh

451
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: this afternoon there. It was a tough game to watch

452
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: and a lot like to not watch without you know,

453
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: just zip through the commercials and move on with your guy.

454
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: That's the one thing where the Browns have never let

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00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: you down. When you make the pronouncement that it's over,

456
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: it usually is. I think I lost that once. I

457
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: think I'm about and one. And the crazy thing is

458
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: they you watched the game, they didn't look like on

459
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: even teams they Brown's average more yards for play. They

460
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: were about the same in yardage. The Browns I thought

461
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: won the line of scrimmage when they were on offense.

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00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: Uh so you're both saying they just got really outcoached. Yeah,

463
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: they got out there. They had two terrible but they

464
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Speaker 1: also have the far better quarterback. I mean that cannot

465
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: be understated the Browns. Yes, the Browns do. Tom Brady

466
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: is playing at a much higher level than Baker Mayfield is.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I thought you were saying the opensite, Tom Brady,

468
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: I think is playing really well. And this is the

469
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: point I you know, tried to make that the what's

470
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: going on around him. They didn't have Shack Mason today.

471
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Speaker 1: They didn't have it, so they didn't have their left tackle,

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Speaker 1: their center, or the right guard. They have most of

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Speaker 1: new who comes in place. Twenty five snaps made a

474
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Speaker 1: couple of catches. The running game has been the worst

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Speaker 1: running game they've had in a long time, and they're

476
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Speaker 1: passing game is not explosive. But you know, he whenever

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Speaker 1: they've needed a play like that touchdown when he gets

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Speaker 1: outside the pocket, or it's McDaniels calling up a screen

479
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: on third and ten when they're backed up and it's

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00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: a one score game, or they when they have a

481
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: played a door set where they only try like once

482
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: the whole game, but they hit it down the field.

483
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: I think Brady has been making those plays. He's not

484
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Speaker 1: where he is before, but PFF, going into this week

485
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Speaker 1: having about the seventh quarterback and link it sounds about

486
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: right to me and I and people have been kind

487
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: of saying down things on him because their offense is

488
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: definitely way worse than it's been since too. That he's

489
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: the perfect set up right now. I mean, if he's

490
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Speaker 1: not Tom Brady the super duper star anymore, but he's

491
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Speaker 1: like the best. He's an elite game manager a little

492
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Speaker 1: higher than that. With this defense, I mean it makes

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Speaker 1: it's a terrifying prospect, the idea of the Pats having

494
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: an all time defense with late period Tom Brady not

495
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: making any mistakes and lording over the offense. Are your

496
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: number one speed and everyone else get out of the way.

497
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: And in a conference that outside of the maybe the Ravens,

498
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: who's gonna who's gonna touch? I think the offense will

499
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: will get better as the season goes, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: into it more on Thursday with our preview show. Mark.

501
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: But at Denver next week, Cleveland go win a ballgame

502
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: or we might have to put your six ft under.

503
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 1: So he's like the six ft under game next week. Well,

504
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: because I don't Again, you know, Greg asked about the pills.

505
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: What is the goal? Does Cleveland actually view themselves the

506
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Speaker 1: playoff team? I don't at this point, but I think

507
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Speaker 1: they can contend they this is a big game. Lose

508
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Speaker 1: to Denver, and I'm sorry because I've been killing Denver,

509
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: we all have for various reasons. You go to losing

510
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: to an incomplete team under game. Yeah, So Brady is

511
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington with like Merlin the Wizard's brain. Right now,

512
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: it's a nice arm sling it all right, Let's move one.

513
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: Takes the guns out, was back looking to throw to balls.

514
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Canland tributes very contemptive into the young Um touchdown. Murray's

515
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: team yards called the pitching catch mured The Saints take

516
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Speaker 1: a sixteen and six league Zach Streep, Saints Radio Network,

517
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, this turn this up, bring play the soul

518
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: day long in my house. Please. It's like the Native

519
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: seven in kingcom on Skull Island or something. All right,

520
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: you can turn Drew Brees passed for three seventy three

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Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns in his first game in more

522
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Speaker 1: than five weeks thumb surgery and the Saints six in

523
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: a row now to nine victory over the Cardinals were overmatched.

524
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Mark the Saints and that Arizona three game winning streak.

525
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Speaker 1: We expected that. The bigger question is how in his

526
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: first action in a long time. Well, it's an interesting

527
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: game to come off of the Tom Brady conversation because Breeze,

528
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: to me, there's some similar stuff. That's you did a

529
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: nice job off setting those back to back Breeze is

530
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: also operating neck up the way you'd expect, And he

531
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: didn't show to me any remnants of holding the ball

532
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: differently or anything like that. Off of the thumbs. The

533
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: thumb surgery, he did have that brace on it, and

534
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: he still loves to. Whenever he's on the sideline, he's

535
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: fiddling with his thumb NonStop. We know, you know, it's

536
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: like you went through a thumb thing that's good, but

537
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: they are not. They're a bit different, and it's it's it.

538
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: I didn't. I feel like Sean Peyton did not go

539
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: out of his way to change the offense a whole

540
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: lot from the Teddy Bridgewater experience in the sense that

541
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray at thirty touches and twenty one of those

542
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: are on the ground, but nine were through the air

543
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: where the screen game is still and that's this has

544
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: been a Sean Payton trade, but even more now with

545
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Speaker 1: Sean with the Drew brees Um. I think limitations in

546
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: terms of downfield throwing, which West has been hitting, you know,

547
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: going back to last season. I think it's just an

548
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: understood reality at this point. To some degree, He's still

549
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: a sharp thrower. He can hit guys on wheel routes

550
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: and do it unlike anyone else, but they're under they

551
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: understand who their quarterback is. He's still threw the ball

552
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: forty three times for three seventy three yards. But I

553
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: would say the box go watch it. Maybe maybe I

554
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: got stuck on this early, but I just felt like

555
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: his stats were not what I was seeing on the field.

556
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: And it's not a knock on Breeze. They're very versatile.

557
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: I think they're still one of the best coach teams

558
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: in the league, and that this game, to me, was

559
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: just just as much about their defense putting the clamps

560
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: on an interesting Cardinals offense, but one that again cannot

561
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: They got down to the Saints thirteen yard line twice

562
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: and were held to field goals, and then from there

563
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: the wheels kind of fell off. They could not get

564
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: the running game going. Then Chase Edmonds got hurt, and

565
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: they they had Alfred Morris, who they signed wasn't even active.

566
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: They just had nothing on the ground, and the Saints

567
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: also shut down Kyler Murray on the ground, So a

568
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: triple dimensional offense went down to a zero dimensional offense.

569
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: So Levin carries a forty yards on the ground, and

570
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: they we talked about most of that coming in the

571
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Speaker 1: last five eight yards from their running back. Yeah, we

572
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: we talked about it on Thursday and someone that put

573
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: it out there, um, a media person perhaps that, Um,

574
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: they're very hard team to to plan for. Now the Cardinals,

575
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: who's at eight? Greg Olson, Greg Olsen, And it's like, well,

576
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: let's see what happens when you go to the Superdome,

577
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. I mean against they. Arizona

578
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: was playing some of the worst teams in football and

579
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: the Saints are one of the very best teams. And

580
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: now with Drew Brees there, they you know, when you

581
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: look at you don't want to get too crazy with

582
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: the big picture, but like, who can beat the Patriots

583
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: is usually the way I look at football. But the

584
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: Saints the way they are currently, uh presently constituted with

585
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: with Drew back, they have a shot. No one sneaking

586
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: out of this NFC. This is a strong conference at

587
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: the top, absolutely, and and I think the Saints keep

588
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: building confidence, getting better and playing more complete football as

589
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: this season goes along. Latavius Murray was a great signing

590
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: and we weren't all that excited by it, but they

591
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: haven't missed mark Ingram at all and sometimes you know

592
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: the old saying, you're you're one injury away from a

593
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: better team. Chauncey Gardner Johnson, their fourth round rookie comes

594
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: in and plays nickel Beck because p J. Williams got hurt.

595
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: He really caught my eye last week and had a

596
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: couple of passes defense today. Uh that that guy should

597
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: probably keep the job. That's three straight weeks he's been awesome.

598
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they got better with Drew Brees out,

599
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: but they did learn about their team absolutely, and I

600
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: think that's to their advantage. We when he got hurt,

601
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: we we said, well, he's got six games of four

602
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: the bye. If they can just go three and three,

603
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that they'll be fine. And here now

604
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: they're going to there By on a six game winning streak,

605
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: and they are. I mean, there's not much of a

606
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: favorite difference between them and the fort and you know,

607
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: whoever else heroin. There's a lot of good teams in

608
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Speaker 1: the NFC, but I mean, I think it's the best

609
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: Saints team I've seen. But I mean, through half a season,

610
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: how completely they have the best Their offensive line is incredible,

611
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: They have the best tackle combination and the best defense.

612
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: Drew Brees has ever had. So if they're if their

613
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: offense is just very very good like it's been, I

614
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: can't disagree with you more on them, you mean, ever

615
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: compared to what compared to their best teams when Drew

616
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Brees was in his prime, Jimmy Graham was in his prime,

617
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls was in his prime. There they were rolling over.

618
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Their offense was great, but that they had a below

619
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Speaker 1: after brought that whole run that was all on turnovers

620
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: and they and they turn over in THEFS tonight. I

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Speaker 1: mean best or not. I think that you're looking at

622
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: the best coaching. It's the same way that Belichick is

623
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: coaching in in a in a different world. I feel

624
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: that way about Sean Payton, and they're more complete team

625
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: than they've been in the past. And then the league

626
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: where it's teams are up and down and and have

627
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: a hard time sustaining success, especially after making the Super

628
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: Bowl other than the Patriots, Like this is three straight

629
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Speaker 1: years they've been one of the best five teams in

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00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: the league. It's kind of their turn and then they

631
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: come out of there. By then Drew Brees gets more

632
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: time to uh get right. I don't think you should

633
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: have played on something. But you know, that's a different conversation.

634
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: They get the Falcons at home cupcake. They go to

635
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Tampa about another cupcake. By the way, the Panthers aren't

636
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: catching up with them. This team is gonna be rolling.

637
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: This is a fourteen two team. I think, all right,

638
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: let's let's keep moving. First and goal at the nine.

639
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: The Shawan castle the ball, here's the snap. Watson looking

640
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: pocket collapsing, want to try to get away. He talks

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Speaker 1: to the right brow to the ASA talkie. Fells magical

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Speaker 1: touchdown Houston and the Texans take the lead, and Watson

643
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Speaker 1: has shake it up at the fifteen face down. I

644
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: don't know if as he was going down he got

645
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: a cleat or he got hit in the face as

646
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: he was going down, but that's what they seemed to

647
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: be looking at right here. They got kicked enough ice

648
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: right in the eye. Mark Vandermere and Andre Ware with

649
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: the call Texans Radio network. But he's all right, he's

650
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: all right, Sean Watson would not be denied. The Texans

651
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: quarterback escaped the sure sack, then found Darren Fells for

652
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: that touchdown, the deciding score over those frisky Oakland Raiders

653
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: on that touchdown pass. Yes, Watson took the clee to

654
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: the eye. It was nearly swollen. I love this guy.

655
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: This's Deshaun Watson. Hey, he's a player. Hey, dog, he's

656
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: a player that I was nearly swollen shut on the

657
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: last possession for Houston when they were trying to run

658
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: out the clock. So you would think, oh, maybe hand

659
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: the ball off three times to Carlos Hide or Duke

660
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Johnson try to get a first alf that Bill O'Brien,

661
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: who I liked the game, he called in general calls

662
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: for passes and and and Watson throws two touchdown throws

663
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: for two more first downs, clinches the game. However, J J.

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Speaker 1: Watt and here's the bummer of it all. J J.

665
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Watt was ruled out with a shoulder injury, uh midway

666
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Speaker 1: through the game, and then rap Sheet came out with

667
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: the report that the Texans feared it was a torn

668
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: peck I would end a season, and then J. J.

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00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: Watt hopped on Twitter and confirmed it. Here's what Watt

670
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: had to say. This game could be beautiful and it

671
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: can also be brutal. Absolutely gutted, gutted that I won't

672
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: be able to finish the season with my guys and

673
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: give the fans what they deserve. I truly love this

674
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: game and can't stand letting you guys down. Thank you

675
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: for all of the thoughts and well wishes. That is

676
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: the third time in four seasons what ends the season

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00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: on I R and obviously a devastating loss for the Texans, who,

678
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Speaker 1: as we know Greg Rosenthal have gone all in on

679
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Well, now they don't have their best player

680
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: on defense, and I thought J. J. Watt played the

681
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: last two weeks probably as well as he's played since

682
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: any of those injuries hit. And he you know, he

683
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: said it himself and and I trust that judgment going

684
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: into it. That makes it tough because I think the

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Speaker 1: Texans had been shaping up as one of the main

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Speaker 1: A f C challengers. I also don't think they're necessarily

687
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: done without him, because ultimately they're an offensive team. Now

688
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: they've changed, they they are an offensive team this year,

689
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: probably a little too much weighted towards offense for Romeo

690
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: Cornell's like, and I think he's probably thought this defense

691
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: is underachieved a little bit through the first seven or

692
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: eight weeks. And now Deshaun Watson's gonna have to put

693
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: more on his back. He said, they're they're the worst

694
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: team obviously without him, And we already knew. The Patriots

695
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs I think went healthy, but especially the Patriots.

696
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: You were talking again, who can beat the Patriots. The

697
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Texans West needed all the help they could get, and

698
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: they needed J. J. Watt to be peak Watt, and

699
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: now he is absent for the rest of the season.

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00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: It's crushing. Well, we know the pass rush and the

701
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: secondary is sort of interconnected in football. The secondary relies

702
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: on that pass rush to hurry the quarterback, and this

703
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: secondary is the weak spot on the team. We've been

704
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: saying that since August. It's bypassed. The offensive line is

705
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: the biggest trouble spot and it's not getting any better.

706
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: They do have a good backup. The rookie Charles and

707
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: Many who who we've talked about a few times, is

708
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: a good backup. He's just not you know J. J. Watt, who,

709
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: like Greg said, was he was in the running for

710
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year this year. I mean, just

711
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: to back the truck up a few yards. Fun team

712
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: like them a lot. Don't even talk to me about them.

713
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Challenging the Patriots in January. There they are the quintessential

714
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Dictionary definition of Patriots fodder. I mean they are enjoyable

715
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: and I think that they could win a playoff game,

716
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: no doubt. But the minute they hit New England, it's over.

717
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: They have I mean they can throw a lot ie offensively,

718
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: especially yeah, with Will Fuller and the way they're running.

719
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: And for Watson, I mean, you can't play. I have

720
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: a hard time counting him out in any game. You

721
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: can't play a better half than they did. Offensively, they

722
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: only had the ball four times along field goal drive

723
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: and then touchdown, touched down, and then the three first

724
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: downs with onion. Uh. Play calls and conversions. I mean,

725
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have the play call, it's another

726
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: thing for Watson running to his right, throwing to his left,

727
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Darren Fells makes a one handed catch. I mean, these

728
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: guys are executed. Are three guys that cannot get hurt

729
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: on the Texans wats and what Laramie Tunsel who also

730
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: exited this game the left the DeAndre Hopkins of course

731
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: as well, but um Laramie Tunsel, who um has played

732
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: great left tackle since coming over in that trade. He

733
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: exited with a shoulder injury, and I'm actually doing some

734
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: web searching right now looking for updates on that. But

735
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: he left the game. He was questionable but did not return,

736
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: so you got to keep an eye on that as well.

737
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: So and really it was a nice win again the Raiders.

738
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Speaker 1: I'll give the Raiders this there. I don't think they're

739
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: a great team. I don't think they're gonna be a

740
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: playoff team either, but week after week they're showing that

741
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: they can hang with good teams, whether in their building

742
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: or on the road. It's undeniable progress for John Gruden

743
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: and and they nearly pulled this game out as a

744
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: credit to Deshaun Watson and Deshaun Watson magic that Houston

745
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: managed to steal this game. And I imagine because Watson

746
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: so special, that they aren't doomed uh and aren't gonna

747
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: be an eight and eight team or something now going forward.

748
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I still think they are going to win that division personally,

749
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: but that's a devastating loss. They're the most electric team

750
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: in that division, no doubt. I would put the Raiders though,

751
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: as one of the nice surprises of the season. I

752
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: don't care what the record is right now. The scope

753
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: of potential disaster in Oakland with a the team and

754
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: its finally season in in in Oakland before they go

755
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, and what was going on with Antonio

756
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Brown and just you throw in the asterix of John

757
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Gruden maybe melting by now, and it is worked out

758
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: on a team with very few weapons. On offense, they're

759
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: really good. It's offense, but the defense they're not going

760
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: to get stops when there Derek Carr had another good game.

761
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: I know you haven't put a lot into this, Greg,

762
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: but earlier in this season, to me, it did feel

763
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: like this was an audition year for whether Gruden and

764
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: and and Car would move forward together. And right now

765
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a really good bond because they

766
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: do move the ball on offense, they do a nice job.

767
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm the I was the one that suggesting Car might

768
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: be out of there, and I'm still not sir that

769
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: like Gruden couldn't become someone else. But but the Car

770
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: is basically telling me to go f myself with that.

771
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Back your car up. Yeah, if I had one, you

772
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: would to say he's a good Christian man. By the way,

773
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: he would never use that type of language, that performative language.

774
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: You're right, he might say, back your car up, though,

775
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: back your own car up. It's a it's a year

776
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: of progress for them, absolutely all right, let's uh, let's

777
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: move forward. It's gonna be from the left, hash pan

778
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: Yarro for the win. The Chargers check his up and

779
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: it is no good that Chargers win. No good pan

780
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: Yaro misses, and the Chargers losing streak comes to an end.

781
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: They make just enough place to get out of Chicago

782
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: with a victory. Pan Yaro ends up pulling it left

783
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: our boy Matt money Smith, the voice of the Chargers,

784
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: with the call in January. It was the double doink

785
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It was simply a whiff to the left

786
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: of the upright by Eddie Piniero, who's missed from forty

787
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: one yards out doomed the Bears to a seventeen sixteen loss.

788
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: That's three consecutive defeats for the Bears and the end

789
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: of a three game skid for the Chargers. I'd say

790
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: are pretty much all even now, even Stephen with the

791
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: football gods. After last week's to backle against the Titans. Greg,

792
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: you know you can point the finger in a lot

793
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: of directions to this one. But Matt Naggy to me,

794
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: went full herm edwards in this one. Yeah, why are

795
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: we accepting forty one yard field goals at the buzzer

796
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen and then defending it after the

797
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: game like the reporters were basically accosting Matt Negle, Like,

798
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: how dare they even question the fact that he had

799
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: forty four seconds on a defense They had just moved

800
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: the ball on very quickly and the time out and

801
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: you have a kicker in Pinero hasn't played much in

802
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: the league. And oh, by the way, missed the thirty

803
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: three yards perrow earlier in the game. Let's listen to

804
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: the exchange, the contentious exchange between Bears head coach and

805
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: local and national media. I'll just be brutally clear. Zero

806
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: thought of throwing a football, zero thought of running the football.

807
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: You understand me. That's exactly what it was. So it's

808
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Could you explain to give why

809
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: not running the ball? What? What? What was? Should I

810
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: just say that? Yeah? Just what I say? What? Was it? Fumble?

811
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: And when they know you're running football, you lose three

812
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: or four yards? That was Matt Naggy. No, no, no,

813
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: you ran for a hundred and sixty two yards. In

814
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: this game, you have professional football players and professional blockers.

815
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: You hypothetically believe in your team. So the idea of

816
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: being afraid to run the ball since the worst message,

817
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: and then double downing double you know, double downing on

818
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: it in the double down, double downing, doubling down, doubling

819
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: in the press conference. It's just such a bad look.

820
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: He needs to go see a shrink after that. He's

821
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: he he is. It's almost like, well, we can just

822
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: point at the kicker being the problem when he wasn't

823
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: because the play calling and the quarterback it's all married here.

824
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: The end of the first half sequence to me, was

825
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: actually a bigger fiasco, uh than the end of the game.

826
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: They had five plays I believe inside the five at

827
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: the end of the first half. They end up running

828
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: out of time and kicking a field goal. They had

829
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: nine plays inside the five in the first half and

830
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: three more inside between the six and the ten. They

831
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown on any of them, and some

832
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: of those, Mitchell Trabinsky had plenty of time and Bears

833
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: fans are all in my mention saying, well, the play calling,

834
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: the play called, every play that Trabinsky made today, and

835
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: he played better today. He made some throws, he got

836
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: them in position. There were first reads, two guys who

837
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: were wide open, and so that to me is play calling.

838
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Those are the only players you're getting. And yes, Trabinsky,

839
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: everyone said, well, he put him in position to win.

840
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: You know what else he did. He lost them the

841
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: game with ninety two to go. And sometimes you get

842
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: so focused at the end of the game. Here's a

843
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: sequence for you, sixteen to ten. At this point, I

844
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: want to go on too long, but it's all right,

845
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: all right, at this point in the game, it's sixteen

846
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: to ten, it's nine thirty two left to set the scene.

847
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Rabinsky had just thrown a backbreaking pick uh just a

848
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: couple of minutes before that set the Chargers up in

849
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: field goal range, and the Bears defense stuffed them three

850
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: and out and the Chargers missed the kick. So let's

851
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: give the ball back to Mitch. Let's try to go

852
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: win the game. You know what Matt Naggie did right there,

853
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: He got his wide receiver. I believe it was Anthony

854
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: Miller isolated on Thomas Davis, who's been in the league

855
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,959
Speaker 1: for sixteen years, streaking down down the field wide open

856
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: against uh young wide receiver, and you know what Trabinsky does.

857
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: He overshoots him by about fifteen yards. I mean, there

858
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: was so much margin for air. What happened the very

859
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: next play he lost a fumble by running into the

860
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: opposing defender. The Chargers punch in that touchdown like those,

861
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: that's where the game is lost, is when you're just

862
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: missing gimmes. Other quarterbacks are gonna hit. And just to

863
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: make it clear so people know exactly the circumstances, um

864
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Travisky late names scrambled um for eleven yards to get

865
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: to the Chargers twenty didn I stop setting them up?

866
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: Overall good drive the Chargers, so stopping the clocks clock

867
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: at forty three seconds and then at first and ten

868
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: from the Chargers twenty one, with the time out in

869
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: their pocket, they decided to kneel on the football. So

870
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: really it came down to running football once and maybe

871
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't go anywhere. That's essentially uh what Naggie is

872
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: saying that either run into a wall for a loss,

873
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: maybe worth it, or maybe you break off a twelve

874
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: yard run for for a chip shot, or you score.

875
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Who knows, it's what you do that when you have

876
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: no confidence in your quarterback to execute six yard throw

877
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: when they had a bunch of third there were a

878
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: couple of third and long situations where they basically had

879
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: give up plays in the game, and in a lot

880
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: of the play call inside the ten yard line were

881
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: like that. So if you have so little confidence in

882
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: your quarterback, do you play the veteran caddy or do

883
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: you say I need I still need more time to

884
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: evaluate mitts Dubinski. What we what we paid in draft

885
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: picks to get him, we gotta we get we need

886
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: eight more games to evaluate it. Well, I guess why

887
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: would you not? Well, I'm down on Mitch Drabinsky, but

888
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: I would take the time to evaluate because otherwise you

889
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: are learning about a quarterback that is not your future

890
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: at all in your backup. It's tough to give up

891
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: on Rabinsky until he gives you absolutely no other choice.

892
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: But I think he's he's getting there. That the tricky

893
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: thing if you're if you're naggy. I think they've won

894
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: some games where they maybe have gotten a little lucky.

895
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: This game, they were the better team. I mean, their

896
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: defense shut the Chargers down. They outgained them by a

897
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. They moved the ball. They ran it

898
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: really well. Your boy, David Montgomery West had had his

899
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: best game of the year, and it was really just

900
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: a couple of plays Rivers made and Joey Bosa making

901
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: really uh well time sacks on third down that kept

902
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers in it. But that the Bears blew this one.

903
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: And because I'm a monster, I asked Ricky to call

904
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: pull the Bears radio call of the final seconds of

905
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: the game. Let's listen, come on, Operations, gotta be smooth,

906
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: Captoric Scales. I'm the ball dish for a Bears win.

907
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Donald kicked by Eddie kick. He's a little good he

908
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: missed it. As time expires seventeen sixteen, the win thought

909
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: it was good. Operation Smooth twisted it away left and

910
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: the Chargers in their three losing streak. Jeff, it's good

911
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: to know there. You know other people in the world

912
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: are miserable about it. It does seem like we paid

913
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: the price watching these television feeds week after week, because

914
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: what's coming through the radio feeds are about fifteen times

915
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Juice here, let's move on. Matthew's got it talk sweet

916
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: Lake Soger, mckissic he clos it back to Stafford. Stafford

917
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Gona keeping field. He's that knydown receiving, said, I thought

918
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: he made it, kissing who made my brother's Stafford Stafford

919
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: through a deep field to Coliday, how that the blind swards?

920
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: What are they talking over? They got your highlight, got

921
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: four weeks worth of compliments out of us on your team.

922
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: Deal with it, Dan Miller with the call, Matthew Stafford

923
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: through three toughs. And by the way, the lines are

924
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: not the team around the N five seen some people

925
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: that's used about that. I can see why people were

926
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: confused based on the conversation not really being buttoned up

927
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: at the end, but they definitively are not them anyway.

928
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford threw three touchdowns too, of them to star

929
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver Mac Holliday, and the Lions ended a three

930
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: game losing to get a win over the Giants at

931
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: Ford Field. Mark. We commanded the Lions to go win

932
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: a football game at home on Sunday. They honored our demand.

933
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: They stay in the picture. They took care of business.

934
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: I went and read some of the because the game

935
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: was a little was strange for multiple reasons. I just

936
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: wanted to see what some of the Detroit writers took

937
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: out of the win, and a couple kind of seemed

938
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: dismayed that Detroit needed to as you just saw that

939
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: highlight used trickery to beat a team as lowly as

940
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: the Giants. I didn't have a problem with any of

941
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: this because if you're Detroit, just find a way to

942
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: get this thing done. And they effectively. They They got

943
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: the game going well on their first defensive touchdown of

944
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: the year, where Daniel Jones did what he's gonna do

945
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: once a game, a vicious strip sack where the ball

946
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: floated around and then Devin Kennard rolled it in for

947
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: a sixteen yeard touchdown to go up seven nothing. Giants

948
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: bounced back very well from that. I thought that Daniel

949
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Jones did something else he's gonna do, which is row

950
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: two very pretty passes, a couple of scores. Yeah, he

951
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: looked good. He he The one thing about him is

952
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: that he'll make that critical killer era where you might

953
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: see another quarterback crumble mentally, and Jones does seem to

954
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: bounce back from that and have a pretty short memory.

955
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: The game just became sort of a flip plot between

956
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: both teams going back and forth and the difference for

957
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: me is that this year's Detroit Lions, and we saw

958
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of against Green Bay and some weeks

959
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: going back there, you know, they were such a plotting

960
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: whether it was passing or running a plotting attack for

961
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: so long, even though people always like to site their

962
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: comebacks in that one season all that stuff. They have

963
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: explosive play capability and it is Gala day And even

964
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: Danny A. Mondola today had a couple of big catches

965
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: Marvin Hall. So Marvin Hall had a big touchdown. So

966
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, Detroit their three three and one. They just

967
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: have that look of a team that's going to be

968
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: eight seven and one or seven eight and one and

969
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: drive their writer's nuts week to week and trive expectations

970
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: if they're high nuts and when you think they're gone,

971
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a game like this and hang around.

972
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is having arguably his best season. You look

973
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: at the numbers right now, he's fifth in the NFL

974
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: and qb R. He's on pace to throw thirty five

975
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns just eight interceptions. He's on pace for another forty

976
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards season. And West we have this conversation

977
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: before the season, and I remember you being maybe not

978
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: even on the fence, more under of under the impression

979
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: you know Stafford is not kind of a special guy.

980
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: Has his play this season changed the way you feel

981
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: at all? I think with Stafford he's one of those

982
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: guys where you always know he's one of the most

983
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: talented quarterbacks in the league, especially armed talent, but he's

984
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: never beat good teams. So it's been like a more

985
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: talented version of Kirk Cousins, and a lot of that's

986
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: been coaching and surrounding talent and never having a running game.

987
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: This year, I've been really impressed with him. I've always

988
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: loved his pocket movement, and as I said earlier year,

989
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him with a better coach. He

990
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: can't really argue with with what the coaching has done

991
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: this year. The offense hasn't really been a problem for

992
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: the long now. I think Darryl Buble has done a

993
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: good job there. You know, they don't have much of

994
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: a running game now without Carrie and Jones. I do

995
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: wonder Carrie Kenyan Drake was held home by the Miami Dolphins.

996
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: He's getting moved for Monday night and so he's not

997
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: injured so they're they're clearly looking to trade him. I

998
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: think there will be a lot of trades that feels

999
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: like a low cost trade that would maybe help the Lions.

1000
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: Well and Ian Rappaport are very own noted in a

1001
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: in a post this morning for NFL dot Com that

1002
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: the Lions are specifically interested in adding a running back.

1003
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: So you know, you put all that together, they have

1004
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: the need more than any team in the NFL right now,

1005
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: right they started Tray Carson, who was on the Packers

1006
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: practice squad and moves like a fullback. So well, I

1007
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: don't know if they started, and but he got the

1008
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: most yards and carries. The Giants are having a player's

1009
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: only meeting tomorrow, so that means their season is officially open.

1010
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on third and goal from the eight man

1011
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: you dropped the thrown looks scrambled to his right. Love

1012
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: pump still look still love pump fire for the ends. Well,

1013
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: i'd find the gay chart touts out shark attack in

1014
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: the corner. The jacket extimy, look at you, Frank Frangie.

1015
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, great name, Jags Radio network gardner meansho the

1016
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: second he threw three touchdown passes, including that game clincher

1017
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: to g J sharka shark attack. Why do you pronounce it?

1018
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: Means you? Means you? Yea? I just like it? That okay?

1019
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: On our Thursday wrap up show, what did you how

1020
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: did you pronounce that one word? One? What was it again?

1021
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: I can't quagmire first? Quagmire? You said quagmire? Quagmire? Quagmire? Is?

1022
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: I say, means you? What do you say? Mensho? Better

1023
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: start saying Winsho. The Jaguars feasted on the jets poorous

1024
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: offensive line, and they're struggling quarterback at the big chlorine tank.

1025
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: The Jags had eight sacks, pressured Sam donald in to

1026
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: three interceptions, including a backbreaking pick midway through the fourth quarter.

1027
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Meanshoe played incredibly well. He he, I mean he. I

1028
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: was really impressed. I was that you were asking to

1029
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: see something from and where are you now not see something?

1030
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: But I thought that it was with foals, you know,

1031
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: approaching health. I imagine I'm not like tracking this too closely,

1032
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: but I would think the timetables lining up where he's

1033
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: probably getting closer. Um, if me Andsho put together a

1034
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: few more bangers, it's gonna be very hard slash I

1035
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: possible to take him out. Well, this was a certified

1036
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: banger because he he did all the right things against

1037
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. Um and his ability to extend plays was

1038
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: what really stood out to me. And when he extended plays,

1039
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Um he was able to throw the ball with great touch.

1040
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: He didn't make mistakes. Um, he looked just a lot.

1041
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: He just looked a lot better than Sam Donald, who

1042
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: it was clearly regressing now and and he has to

1043
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: take a lot of some of that blame because he's

1044
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: making bad mistakes his interceptions. Again, while he didn't look

1045
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: even close to the guy that was totally lost against

1046
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots. In fact, on the Jets opening possession, they

1047
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: went ninety yards and he went seven for seven with

1048
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: eighty eight yards in a touchdown pass. So there was progress.

1049
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: But he also you you see him trying to do

1050
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: too much, and you see the offensive line causing him

1051
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: to throw the ball when he shouldn't be throwing the

1052
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: ball and in general just not going in the right direction.

1053
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: And again, Adam Gaze, his job here was to make

1054
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald better. So San Donald's not getting better and

1055
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: the team looks out classed on a weekly basis. You

1056
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: just have to start to ask questions. But on the

1057
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Jaguar side, a nice win, uh Me and Schu looks

1058
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: great and that team is rejuvenated Without Jalen Ramsey and

1059
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: this Jets offensive line is bad, but it's not the

1060
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: only offensive line that has trouble. But with Klaas, Campbell,

1061
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: Yannick and gock Way and Josh Allen who have been

1062
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: excellent this year, this is a reinvigorated defensive front for

1063
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. They they've beaten up on, you know, some

1064
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: of the lesser teams over the last couple weeks. But

1065
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: therefore and four in that division is wide open. And

1066
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: the way mins She's playing, I'm with you. I I

1067
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: think if he continues to play like this, not only

1068
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: do you you know, just want to keep winning, and

1069
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: he think that maybe he gives you the best chance

1070
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: to win. You you really want to see what you

1071
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: have in this guy, because this team is not winning

1072
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year most likely, but I think

1073
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: he would will affect the way you think about the

1074
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: quarterback position in the off season if he can play

1075
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: like this under person. I mean, Minshew is not just

1076
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: did not just outplay Sam Donald today, he is out

1077
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: playing Baker Mayfield this entire season, Josh Allen and everyone

1078
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: from that quarterback class two years ago outside of Lamar

1079
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: Jackson right now, who is a completely just different type

1080
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: of human being on the football field. Why would you

1081
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Nick Foles and you go in

1082
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: there and you have one of those games where you

1083
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: throw three interceptions, the place, the house is gonna go

1084
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: literally nuts on you. I I don't think you shake

1085
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: this up until Minshew does what Kyle Allen did, and

1086
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, makes it inevitable for a change. He's totally different,

1087
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: different than Kyle Allen's right well, and falls is I

1088
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: think three weeks away from even being eligible. These things

1089
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: usually work themselves out one way or another. Either he'll

1090
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: just be too obviously good or not. I think the Jets,

1091
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: on the other hand, are in a tricky spot. You know,

1092
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: they have the new general manager. We've heard some players

1093
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: are available ahead of the trade deadline, but man, they

1094
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: in the first half of this game was two five

1095
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: yards to one oh three. So this this was a

1096
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: game where you went to a three and four team

1097
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: and all the stats say it was fairly one sided.

1098
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: And and now are you gonna are you gonna give

1099
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: away or trade away Leonard Williams and Robby Anderson. And

1100
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: it's just a tough it's a tough spot to be

1101
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: and not like those two guys are gonna sink them

1102
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: if let's say that they get traded. But it's a

1103
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: tough spot. It's a very tough spot. I suspect what's

1104
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: gonna happen in here. I don't know how the trade

1105
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: deadline shakes out, but this seems to be trending in

1106
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: the direction of a near total tear down, which is

1107
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: of course not optimal considering ay they thought they were

1108
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: going in the right direction this year and started building

1109
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: a roster they thought, and that has all kind of

1110
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: blown up in their face. And it was choppy with

1111
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: the GM exchange. So I think the Jets are in

1112
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: a very bad spot. But again, you what you've heard

1113
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: about Donald does. Hopefully the Jets don't ruin Sam Donald.

1114
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: And you get so nervous that if Adam Gaye really

1115
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: is going to be this overmatched on a weekly basis, um,

1116
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: is he a guy that you really should consider one

1117
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: and done with and and next week is gonna be big?

1118
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: Because I think he's still probably somewhat safe. But if

1119
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: you go and you lose to the Dolphins, it's gonna

1120
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: turn into a massive public outcry situation and we'll see

1121
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: what happens at How Jets management deals with that, well,

1122
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: they have a little bit of you know, motivation the

1123
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins to stick it to Gaze I got, you know,

1124
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what a total tear down means for

1125
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: someone like Levy on Bell, who doesn't look like he

1126
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: did a whole lot today either, but it's it's right.

1127
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: It's a tough sit I loved it. By the way,

1128
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: just like the Leonard for net box Score every week

1129
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: that's seventy six with a sixty six yards, it's happened

1130
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: like what happened happened? Then nobody has more like six

1131
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: yard losses than that guy. What happens when you're like

1132
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: really good straight ahead but you don't move side to

1133
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: side right, and he seems to think he could bail

1134
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: himself out of trouble when he starts shuffling around, it

1135
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: just turns into an outright disaster. Right, let's move on,

1136
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup in motion on the left side, it's a

1137
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: give and now it's an end around a toss back

1138
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: for a fleet flicker and God throws right side out midfield.

1139
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: It's Cooper Cup. The lock split you down the right sideline.

1140
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: He will pick it to do and hand around the

1141
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: reverse talk back fleet clicker for U six. Where did

1142
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: you go to design place like this? J? B Long

1143
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: wests neighbor and M J D of the Rams radio

1144
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: network have ad at Cooper Cup. The third third year

1145
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver caught seven passes for a career best two

1146
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: twenty yards and that touched And you just heard the

1147
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: biggest play. Win four the Rams over the still windless

1148
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Bengals at Wembley Stadium in London West. The Rams rolled

1149
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: up four hundred and seventy yards of offense in this one.

1150
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: Are they starting to get back on track? I guess

1151
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: you could say that, but they've played two tomato cans

1152
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: in the last two Falcons and Bengals. The Bengals played

1153
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: borderline respectable football on one side of the ball in

1154
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: each half. They out rushed the Rams. They're much maligned

1155
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: beleaguered will be gone. Ground attack out rushed the Rams

1156
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: in the first half and their defense actually did okay

1157
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: in the second half, but they also dropped three or

1158
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: four interceptions that golf through right to them. Um the Rams.

1159
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Dante Fowler has four and a half sacks in the

1160
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: last two weeks. He's him on as a force. Cooper

1161
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: Cup two yards on seven catches. He had five catches

1162
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: of twenty yards in a single half the first half,

1163
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: which was the most and a half since Calvin Johnson

1164
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: eight years ago. This is a testament to the preseason

1165
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: level of cornerbacks that the Bengals are running out there.

1166
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: There is just so much open space in their secondary,

1167
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of miss tackles, missed interceptions, drops coverage bus

1168
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: It just looks like in August defense right now, because

1169
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: it really is. Their top three cornerbacks are all injured.

1170
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: The Rams, though, sometimes the schedules, not just the overall drink.

1171
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: This guy just when you get teams they really needed

1172
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Bengals the last couple of weeks, and

1173
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: they get to their by now coming home from London.

1174
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: They have Jalen Ramsey. They're not running the ball well

1175
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: still even against the Bengals that you know, they don't

1176
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: top a hundred yards. Girly doesn't have a big day,

1177
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: but I do think they're They're in at five and

1178
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: three there next to after the buyer, the Steelers in Bears.

1179
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: They're not in a terrible spot. They're finding what they've

1180
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: found ways to stay right in the playoff mix without

1181
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: being at their best. They're just gonna have to be

1182
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: a lot better in the second half. Yeah, and just

1183
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: learned to be a committee backfield, because let's stop pretending

1184
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: that anything else is happening with that cast two players

1185
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: right now. I love that Taylor wrapped their second round

1186
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: rookie at safety is now playing full time snaps and

1187
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: leading the team and tackles. I think that might even

1188
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: be an upgrade over John Johnson there. He is a

1189
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: good player. The one worried coming out of this game,

1190
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was concussed and this is an ongoing issue

1191
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: for him, going back to that big hit he took

1192
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. I

1193
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: don't know how long he'll be out this time. That

1194
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: was that's his fourth concussion since Super both a few

1195
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: weeks ago, we had this conversation that after the third

1196
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: concussion we were getting into danger territory. Austin Collie is

1197
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: a name that came up. It's a horrible thought because

1198
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: that guy is a star wide receiver when he's right,

1199
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: but he just seems prone to this and it's, uh,

1200
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: it usually doesn't because he's been out cold, when he's

1201
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: been out going back to his days with the Saints.

1202
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: So it didn't even just start at the super Bowl.

1203
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's you would be surprised if you

1204
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: saw him again, right he come back this season? To

1205
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: bring him back if he's had two in a month,

1206
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a brain injuries. We don't know what

1207
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: the team knows, so we'll defer to them, but it

1208
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: feels and they're going to enjoy this bit move. It's

1209
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: not a bit, it is like interconnected with everything we

1210
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: do all week long. Let's move up, boy, fank Lust

1211
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: looks who's gonna flow the back and he's a wide

1212
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: open its Metcaff cuts down Seahawks like a buzzer every

1213
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: time we start, and Cooley and calmly dropped that ball

1214
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: over the top to a wide open DK Metcalf and

1215
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have pushed the Metals all the way down

1216
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: to the floor, leading twenty three nothing Battle to the Metal.

1217
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: Another way to say that, Steve see Hawks Radio Network.

1218
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: D K Metcalf good rookie the watch receiver hooked up

1219
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson for two short touchdowns. Chris Carson added

1220
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: ninety yards on the ground. I had a touchdown as well,

1221
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: win for the Seahawks over the moribund Atlanta Falcons. Greg

1222
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: The Seahawks jumped zip here before coasting to the finish.

1223
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: I guess with Matt Ryan sideline, this was never gonna

1224
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: be a fair fight. It wasn't and yet to go

1225
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: off the play by plays analogy. You know if if

1226
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: the floor pedal too was to the medal in the

1227
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: first half, they just stuck that thing in neutral and

1228
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: they were trying to save gas and they were just

1229
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, they're listening to a podcast. I don't

1230
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: know what Pete Carroll is doing in the second half

1231
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: because we talked. I talked about it going into this game.

1232
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Can they win a game convincingly by a couple of scores?

1233
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: Or is Pete Carroll gonna keep playing to what he

1234
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: thinks his team is good at defense and running. It

1235
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: played almost exactly too that Tyler Lockett was unbelievable. All

1236
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: six of his targets for a hundred yards. Some of

1237
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: these catches and throws were just outrageous. You would think

1238
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Pete Carrold want to see more of that. But what

1239
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: happened in the second half is they ran the ball,

1240
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: had three three and outs, and they played to their defense,

1241
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: and their defense isn't that good? And you know, I

1242
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know when you know your defense and

1243
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: that good when Matt Shop lights you up for four

1244
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards stope sixties that's right, nine yards

1245
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: per attempt. Yeah, but is this we're talking garbage time? Right?

1246
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean they got it to within one possession, yes,

1247
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: there was. You never felt like the Seahawks were in trouble,

1248
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: and when they were, they made a nice field goal drive.

1249
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: But they also fumbled the ball at the one yard

1250
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: line in the second half. So this game could have

1251
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: been closer. I'm not calling it garbage time if they

1252
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: had got it close and they fumbled the ball at

1253
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: the one to stop. One way to throw your opponent

1254
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: off is to say, oh, we have match Shop filing

1255
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: in under center. We're gonna throw the ball fifty two times.

1256
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: See how you respected? Yea. They fell behind so early,

1257
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: and he did make some fine throws, he was moving

1258
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: the ball. He made a couple really big mistakes he

1259
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: still had, you know, some shot. You think it motivates

1260
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: him to hear the endless stream of jokes at match shops,

1261
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: expense filing into the public Twitter sphere all week long,

1262
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: people going, you know, you would never add this guy,

1263
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: and what if someone added this guy to the fantasy team.

1264
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: Good for them, they probably did well. That it's it's

1265
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: kind of a it's a tough moment for Dan Quinn

1266
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: that when Matt Schob comes in and it's like, match Shob,

1267
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: wasn't your problem. It again, was your defense giving up

1268
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 1: three straight touchdown. Well, and Arthur Blank, the Falcons owner,

1269
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: who I think has been very obviously very supportive of

1270
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: the whole dan quinn h earth implosion at this point,

1271
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: said that who he was in quotes extraordinarily disappointed in

1272
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: the Falcons season. That is kind of typically code word

1273
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: for changes by ahead. He's I don't, I don't. It

1274
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Quinn's evening to make it to January one. Well,

1275
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: they're here, Yeah, they're here at the bye weeks, and

1276
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: it could be you know, by the time we reconvene Tuesday,

1277
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: we could be talking about it, which would be too bad.

1278
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: It's not like I think this team is gonna suddenly

1279
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: turn around with with any other coach. But I get it,

1280
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: it happened. I could see him. Yeah, well, we have

1281
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: a off season to talk about it. But he seems

1282
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: like a classic go back via d C do a

1283
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: good job and get a second crack at a guy. Right.

1284
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: I I'm more if I'm a Sax fan, I'm worried.

1285
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm more worried just about the lack of pass um

1286
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: uh rush. Two sacks against this quarterback and Oline Combo

1287
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: fifty two throws. Like if you look at the PF ratings,

1288
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's great all across the board, and

1289
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: that's a bad sign. Jenevan Clowney had a nice game,

1290
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: except for a bunch of killer penalties, but he he

1291
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: had some pressures. Four quarterback hits, but he had pressures.

1292
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: But other than that, they're not getting anything. And Ziggians

1293
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: has been a big time free agent. But it was

1294
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: just about that's a total surprise. Though I was gonna say,

1295
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: I just had a curiosity. I clicked into Clowney's numbers

1296
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: and today was just the second sack of the season.

1297
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: I guess he's just never gonna be a guy that

1298
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: puts up huge. He's made it. He's been a very

1299
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: valuable addition to We hear that about him every year,

1300
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: which I'm not I'm not de meeting his player anything,

1301
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess he's just never going to be

1302
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: a guy that He's not a monster all pro producer.

1303
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be that guy. He's not going

1304
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: to be a fifteen to eighteen sack guy. He's more

1305
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: like a nine and like eighteen sack guy, which is

1306
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: why Bill O'Brien didn't want him around anymore. You know,

1307
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: you know who the Texans could use though, trade for

1308
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: him back, give up a first rounder for him the

1309
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: biggest contract ever for Defensylvan Speaking of trade, Rahad Penny's

1310
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: name has come up as someone that teams are calling interesting.

1311
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: He had a couple of big runs today in the

1312
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: first half. They're going anti Kenyan Drake with their Sunday approach. Great,

1313
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: a great headline on the gm app for that, Penny

1314
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: for your thoughts. I love it. You know, it's like,

1315
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: let's get into the combo. Yeah, we are really dropping

1316
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: the ball, the bag, whatever it is on this whole

1317
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: gm app thing. Let's move on it. Like a parentheses

1318
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: for draft picks, case penny for your penny. Down on

1319
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: the first hour, Mike Keith with the call Titans Radio Network,

1320
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: Darrell Casey. Darrell Casey exploded into the backfield and blew

1321
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: up Peyton Barber on fourth and one, ending the Buccaneers

1322
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: final real scoring threat and helping to lift the Titans

1323
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: to a twenty seven to three wind. That's two straight

1324
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: wins for Tennessee since Ryan Tannehill replaced Marcus Mariotta in

1325
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. West This Titans defense, they could play right,

1326
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: they can, but this was this was about a mistake

1327
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: prone Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense. And it's weird because you could,

1328
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: as Bruce Bruce Arians did after the game, excuse the

1329
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: quarterback from all four of his turnovers. You could look

1330
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: at it and say it was the receiver's fault into

1331
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: two interceptions. It was the offensive lines fault into two fumbles.

1332
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: And it's a little disingenuous that Bruce Arians went there

1333
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: when his quarterback spent the entire game throwing the ball

1334
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: up for grabs, often to his benefit because Mike Evans

1335
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: was making plays. But there were a handful of plays

1336
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: where the closest the closest player to the ball was

1337
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: a Titans defender, and Winston was lucky not to be

1338
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: picked on at least five plays. So I think it

1339
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: was disingenuous. But this is the version of Bruce Arians

1340
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: were getting after games now, just disingenuous. Like the time

1341
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: said he claimed that he pushed his kicker back whatever

1342
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: to cover for some other mistake. So I don't know

1343
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: what we're getting out of Bruce Arians, but I do

1344
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: know what we're getting out of Jameis Winston, and it's

1345
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: sloppy play, a frantic quarterback who does not handle pressure

1346
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: well and finds himself running around behind the line of

1347
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: scrimmage on most of his dropbacks. And yet the outgame

1348
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: the Titans, they probably had a better defensive Part of

1349
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: that is because all these turnovers gave the ball to

1350
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: the Titans at the ten yard line, and you can't

1351
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: get a lot of yards, and you only have ten

1352
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: yards before the end zone. That checks out. I do

1353
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: think Arians did call Mike Evans, who had a hundred

1354
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: and ninety eight yards and two touchdowns, the best, the

1355
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: most talented receiver he's ever coached. What in that mix there? Well,

1356
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 1: he got the he got the end of career. He

1357
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: had Antonio Brown at one point, didn't he Yeah, yeah,

1358
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: he was with the cults. I mean when you watch

1359
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Mike Evans playing a game like this, like said, I mean, yeah,

1360
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you think that that is

1361
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: that trying to poor positive? I mean you can look

1362
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: at Mike Evans play and say this guy should never

1363
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: be stopped. Oh, you have to do is throw the

1364
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: ball up for grabs and and no cornerback can stop

1365
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: him because he's a stretch forward and cleats. And that's

1366
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: how he looked today. He was doing this against Kevin Bayard,

1367
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: against Logan Ryan, against Lashawn Simms, who had no prayer

1368
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: against him. It was a big Mike Evans game. But

1369
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: um credit to the Titans. Ryan Tannehill had a huge

1370
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: ninety yard twelve play drive when the Bucks had taken

1371
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: control of the game and the Titans had moved had

1372
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: not moved the ball in two quarters they you know,

1373
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: on that drive, Derrick Henry had a forty two yard

1374
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: run called back on a holding penalty first and twenty.

1375
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: It looks like the Titans are never gonna get their

1376
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: offense going, and Tannehill moved the change with a couple

1377
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: of tight window throws. You know you can't come away

1378
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: like tremendously impressed with the Titans, especially when they call

1379
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: a fourth and two fake field goal and let their

1380
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: unathletic punter try to beat Devin White, a linebacker in

1381
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: the open field. It was just Titans are never really

1382
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: asking us to come away overly impressed with. I mean,

1383
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: they're back to four and four, though the dream of

1384
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: the fourth straight nine and seven is alive. It's tree.

1385
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: There are three minutes of forty five seconds left in

1386
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Titans onions, hanging them for days Zeppelin onions.

1387
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: But Brett Kerran, You're asking him to turn the corner

1388
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: and get that first down. He gets absolutely leveled. He

1389
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: fumbows the ball, He fombows the ball, scooped up by

1390
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: the Bucks running for the go ahead, game winning touchdown.

1391
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: Bucks win. No, they blew the whistle again. They did

1392
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: it again, and the Bucks are annoyed about it, as

1393
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: they should be, just like Sean Payton was annoyed about it,

1394
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: because you can't get that wrong. That was a scoop

1395
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: and score that should have won that game, and it

1396
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: got taken away because an official did the wrong thing.

1397
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: And I thought this would be cleaned up a little bit,

1398
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: and it seemed like it was because the Saints made

1399
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: such a stink about it. Rightly so in week two.

1400
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: But here we are again costing another team in a

1401
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: huge spot. It's it's it's unacceptable. Can't happen? Well said,

1402
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: I'd prefer to point the finger at Mike Vrabel, who

1403
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: never met a trick special teams play he didn't love.

1404
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: But this was one of the most telegraphed fake field

1405
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: goals you will ever see. It was obvious that he

1406
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: wanted no part of a field goal there. They went

1407
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage, tried to get the

1408
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: defense to jump off sides, acted like they were going

1409
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and two, and then they run the

1410
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: fake field goal because they don't trust double joint any

1411
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: parky Um. One final thought on this game. The game

1412
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: coverage on Fox well us. Both both of us were

1413
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 1: quite happy to hear an exuberant, healthy sounding Matt millen

1414
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: Uh doing his thing. He's always been really good at this.

1415
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: I I totally agree. I think people he's gotten a

1416
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: bad name because of his general manager um experience, but

1417
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: I think he's always been a good announcer, and I

1418
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: love to see a guy who has I mean, he

1419
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: was on his deathbed. We weren't sure if he was

1420
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: ever going to be able to do this again, and

1421
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,560
Speaker 1: now he is enjoying it, and he's good at it.

1422
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: He has someone else's heart. A miracle of modern medicine.

1423
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 1: Let's let's hear Actually, I just want to play that

1424
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: Jarrell Casey the big stop. Just a shout out to

1425
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: Matt Millen, who is alive and kicking. Watch this. Watch

1426
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: Jerrell case right in the middle, he's right here. Oh,

1427
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: look at he just lulled him. That's awesome. Troe. Casually

1428
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: you get a star in your helmet too, That's Oh,

1429
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: what a great job on the top side. That is

1430
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: just awesome. I love Chris Marin, especially when it looks

1431
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: like that. I think, I think it's a purer moment.

1432
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: It's a better experience, and you save it more when

1433
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be taken away from you for

1434
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And that's what happened with

1435
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: Matt Millett s broken. I'm also impressed that we had

1436
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: two of the four of us uh heavily monitoring Titans Bucks.

1437
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: You can't look away from those Titans. Baby, let's move on.

1438
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: Also four down lineman dropping the throw with black Yall

1439
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: steps up into the pocket. Past time. Now he's telling

1440
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: roll for us right, here's the balls in the thirty

1441
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: yard line. The Hanna go hit him the football and

1442
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: the loose football is picked up by the Broncos. The

1443
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: clock is running though. We're down to poor. We're down

1444
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: to three. The Broncos can't pick get back the light

1445
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, said that scene of the game. But call

1446
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 1: st called switter. The Broncos got back to it, but

1447
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: they could not get back to the light of scrimmage

1448
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: before the game clock expired. Him that's the end of

1449
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: the game. But called switter. Fifteen thirteen. Matt Taylor Cults

1450
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Radio Network with the call. Adam Vinatieri made a fifty

1451
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: one yard field goal twenty two seconds to play, and

1452
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: then Ben Banago put the final touches on the game

1453
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: with a punishing sack of blackout Joe Flacco, locking up

1454
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: a fifteen thirteen win for the Colts over the Broncos

1455
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: at Lucas Oil Stadium. Market seems that all the Colts

1456
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: know how to do is play close games. Luckily, they're

1457
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: good at those they are, and I mean this, This

1458
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: game took on a somewhat flavorless approach for a big

1459
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 1: chunk of the time. But I think that's kind of

1460
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 1: fine if you're a Cults fan or if you're the

1461
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: coach of the Cults, because you don't mind being in

1462
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: these games. You don't hind you don't have an arsenal

1463
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: of weapons that are going to produce gigantic plays. You're

1464
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,560
Speaker 1: not going to get some of these box scores that

1465
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: some of these other teams are producing. The Broncos have

1466
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: played well on defense for a while now, and they

1467
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: did that again. They really shut Jacoby Brissette and the

1468
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: Colts attacked down to the point where I thought Marlon

1469
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: Mack is just not the guy he's been in other weeks.

1470
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: They weren't able to get into any sort of a flow.

1471
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: But the play of the game, which you know, we

1472
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: showed the sack of flak at the end, and the Broncos,

1473
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: as they will do on offense, had the ball twice

1474
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: in the final seven minutes up thirteen and twelve and

1475
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: did nothing with it. And that's fine. We've been all

1476
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: over Denver's offense for what they are. They traded away

1477
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. They're not gonna get any better. And the

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: Colts defense, if they're a rather no namesh operation, they

1479
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: got the job done well. They just played well from

1480
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 1: wire to wire today. Jacobe Brissette avoided in the end

1481
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 1: zone on the game winning field goal drive what would

1482
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: have been a crushing hit from von Miller to unleash

1483
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: a really beautiful thirty five yard connection to two. It

1484
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: really was, because it really was. And I and Brissette

1485
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: is not perfect, and he's not always easy to watch,

1486
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: and whether sometimes even the way he has wind up

1487
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: in the way he throws the ball is just bizarre.

1488
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: And I know West, he's not your favorite quarterback on

1489
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: the play. But the Colts don't care what the around

1490
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast thinks about their playing style. They don't

1491
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: really need to too. They got that in that drive.

1492
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: I support Jacoby Rissette. Frank, if you're out there, we're

1493
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: all good. He I know that drive also drove Greg

1494
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: nuts because the Cults seemed content to line up for

1495
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: a game winning field goal and not a gimme by

1496
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: Adam Vinitari. After vinitarian missed p a T and missed

1497
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: a I believe a forty five yarder, but it nailed

1498
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: some other long kicks, I think a fifty five yarder

1499
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: in that dome, So they were you know, they could

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: have maybe pressed the issue a little bit to get

1501
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: closer or even go for the score. They seem very

1502
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: into the Adam Vinitary experience where they want to a

1503
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: they didn't give up on him earlier in the year,

1504
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: but lift him up whenever he gets into trouble. And

1505
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: he came out of this game making the kicks, so

1506
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: they look good. That That's all great analysis, Mark, But

1507
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: what I love the most about where are we going

1508
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: from here? Why does what? Where are we qualifying the butt?

1509
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: All I care about is angry Joe Flacco at the podium,

1510
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: please yeah, annoyed with his offen his conservative approach. Listen

1511
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: to Joey flax here. Well, I mean, come on, I

1512
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: I just look at it like we're now a two

1513
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: and six football team and we're like afraid to go

1514
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: for it in a two minute drill, you know, like,

1515
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: who cares if you give the ball back to the

1516
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: guys with a minute forty seconds that they obviously got

1517
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: the field goal anyway, And once again we're a two

1518
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: and six football team, and it just feels like we're

1519
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of afraid to lose a game. It's third and

1520
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: five at the end of the game. Um, you know,

1521
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: it's who cares if they have a time out there

1522
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: at the end or not. You know, getting in field

1523
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: goal range isn't that tough? Uh? You know, so you're

1524
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: just putting your defense in these bad situations, and um,

1525
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: I just felt like, what do we have to lose? Like,

1526
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 1: why can't we be aggressive in some of these situations.

1527
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel about a lot of

1528
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: the game today. We never hear Joe Flacco like that.

1529
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: He's been in the league forever, and you know, that's

1530
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: a shot across the bout. First year offensive COORDINATORI scang

1531
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: Garrello Stang as we call him, and the head coach

1532
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 1: or the head coach if fees the one you know,

1533
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: saying I want to run, I want to run here.

1534
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: You know, could hear Flacco and I've you know, been

1535
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: in this situation. Sometimes when you're speaking and as you're

1536
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: getting to the end of your point, you realize, oh,

1537
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna piss off my superiors, and you just

1538
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: start to you start to trail off a little. But

1539
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: you still gotta like finish the point. Yeah, you still

1540
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: have to finish the point out. He was right. It's

1541
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: the situation he's talking about. His third and five at

1542
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: the colts forty three yard line. One first down wins

1543
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: the game. The Colts only have one time out and

1544
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: they run the ball up the middle for no game.

1545
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: You have five yards to go win a game. I

1546
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: know it's Flacco, but the time out doesn't matter. That's

1547
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: the thing. That's what he's really getting to is this

1548
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: old school post. Let's take their time out, they can

1549
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: go get a field goal. They did it easily. I

1550
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: think he speaks for Broncos fans to who you know Flacco. Yes,

1551
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: he's part of the issue, and he's limited at quarterback,

1552
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: but he's seeing a ton of starts and he's right

1553
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: about this. The Broncos want to win games under Vic

1554
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: Fangio ten to seven and good luck. That's football that.

1555
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: I think he's right, And I also think there were

1556
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Broncos writers and Broncos fans who were

1557
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: left wondering after that podium appearance, why don't you play

1558
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: with that fire that you're you know, the words are

1559
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth let's see your playing style reflected.

1560
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Sunday night football staff.

1561
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 1: Rodgers looking pump bigs now still looking under pressure, pulls

1562
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: it right side of the end side? Is it Carton?

1563
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: It is caught in the back line of the ends

1564
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: sational away to Jamar Williams. Goodness is in the far

1565
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: right corner of the end zone. You gotta go back

1566
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: to the throw and Aaron Rodgers, he's going backwards and

1567
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: he's throws bulls my consttle pass that was by Aaron

1568
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers style. Wayne Laravy and Larry mccaren with the call

1569
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network. These are the good days on the

1570
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: Packers Radio Network because the home team is a good team,

1571
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: a great team. Seven and one now after a thirty

1572
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: one win over the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead, Rogers

1573
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: to Jamal Williams, one of the best throws you'll see.

1574
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and it's more lights out play from the Green

1575
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: Bay quarterback. Who finishes twenty three or thirty three for

1576
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: three five yards and three touchdowns without a pick. Chris

1577
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: Westling the Pack Listen, no Patrick Mahomes, but the Pack

1578
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: another very impressive win in prime time. Who I think

1579
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: even when you have one of the all time great

1580
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 1: in a sport, the fan base gets a little concerned,

1581
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 1: in a little worried when they go through an extended

1582
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: slump like the Packers did last year. And for what

1583
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has done the last three games probably ranks

1584
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: with any three game stretch of his career. He's been

1585
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: just unbelievable, a one fifty to passer rating the last

1586
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: two games. Uh, he had quite a few drops against

1587
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: the Lions that were in his fault. He's just been

1588
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: playing transcendent football. It's been fun to watch. And this

1589
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: is without his number one receiver, Davante Adams. They're only

1590
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna get stronger, They're only gonna get better. Uh, that

1591
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: rhythm between Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers and now, as

1592
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky, the former Lions quarterback pointed out, la Flora

1593
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: has found a way to use Aaron Jones the way

1594
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 1: that Sean McVeigh used to use Todd Gurley as a

1595
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: dual purpose threat, a receiving threat. And and it makes

1596
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: you automatically think, what was Mike McCarthy missing about Aaron

1597
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: Jones that he didn't use him as a receiver. In

1598
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: to Jones's credit, he's really he's improved tremendously in that area. Well,

1599
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: he's been one of the most dynamic, explosive running backs

1600
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: in the league all season. Now he's not getting the

1601
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: usage that was gonna, you know, carry fantasy teams every week,

1602
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: although he's had the touchdowns to do it. But this game,

1603
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: he had a hundred and fifty nine yards as a

1604
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: either hundred twenty seven when aligned out wide as a

1605
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: wide out the next Gen Stats that blows any other

1606
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: game in the four years that Next Gen Stats has

1607
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: been keeping track of this out of the water in

1608
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: terms of catching passes a wide receiver. And I love

1609
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: this because Matt Lafleur saw weakness and he went after it,

1610
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs never fixed it. Now, I know there's

1611
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: a lot of different things you have to stop when

1612
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: you stop the Packers, but at a certain point, if

1613
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: they keep putting a linebacker out there, then you're just

1614
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna keep throwing it to him. You gotta change it up.

1615
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: And they didn't. And so right down to the last

1616
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: play of the game, it's third and five, very similar

1617
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: situation of the one Joe Flacco was honking about and

1618
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: you know what Matt Lafleur did. You could read his

1619
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 1: lips on the sideline. He said, let's go win. Let's

1620
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: go get win. That's what you want from your head coach.

1621
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: You want confidence in the belief in your players to execute.

1622
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: It helps to have Aaron Rodgers on your side. Does

1623
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: But I mean Matt Lafleur, I think for in terms

1624
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 1: of looking fifteen years younger than most head coaches, in

1625
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: terms of people thinking that Aaron Rodgers maybe didn't really

1626
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: respect Matt Lafleur at the beginning of this journey, the

1627
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: pregame comments with Mike Tarico interviewing Aaron Rodgers, I thought

1628
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: put all that to bed in the sense that Rogers

1629
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: wants to win number one. That's happening right now, and

1630
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I I

1631
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: cannot think of a more magical way to cap the

1632
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: one d NFL season then Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.

1633
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick who's been around forever against Aaron Rodgers and

1634
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 1: a first year head coach in Matt Leflour, that's doing

1635
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 1: everything you could have asked that none of that may happen.

1636
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: Stands have had have been in the playoffs, over and

1637
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: over and over Bill Belichick against Matt Lafleur in the

1638
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But you know, I'm just saying a Rogers

1639
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: Brady matchup, and I'm talking about Rogers not with Mike McCarthy,

1640
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: but Rogers with this new relationship. That's no match up

1641
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: right now because Rogers Brady is in the expert game

1642
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: manager stage of his career, which is a nice place

1643
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: to be. Rogers is at the height of his powers

1644
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 1: right now. He also has weapons on his offensive line

1645
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: that are protecting him. This what Rogers said it after

1646
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: the game. He didn't have to do much. He had

1647
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: the throw to Kumaro in the first quarter, which was

1648
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: one of the one of the top ten throws of

1649
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers season, which is an amazing top ten list

1650
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: right now. He had the touchdown. Other than that, it

1651
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of throws to Aaron Jones out wide,

1652
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: and you know, he didn't have to do too much.

1653
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: They're running the ball well. The Chiefs defense was very

1654
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: shorthand and no Frank Clark, no Kendall Fuller, no Chris Jones,

1655
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: so they should score a lot of points on them,

1656
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: and they did well. They scored a lot more points

1657
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: that were called back on penalties. Aaron Jones seemed like

1658
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: he was scoring every time he touched the ball for

1659
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: a while. Alright, So the Chiefs are in a little

1660
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: bit of trouble right now. They're five and three, which

1661
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: is okay. Three losses at Arrowhead. Good performance by Matt

1662
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: Moore though shot by Matt Moore through two touchdown passes

1663
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: certainly did not kill them and got hot to get

1664
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: them back in the game after they fell behind fourteen.

1665
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: Nothing early, but it wasn't enough. You look ahead, they

1666
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 1: got the Vikings. Um, that's gonna be a tough game.

1667
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: Then at Tennessee, and we're hearing it's possible that Patrick

1668
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes is back for that game. They need to get

1669
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: their star in the lineup, uh and win this division.

1670
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: They're in the right division. I don't think it's time

1671
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: to worry about the Chiefs. I think Kansas City, though,

1672
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: would have after what happened last January, coming into this year,

1673
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: the goal would have been host New England this time.

1674
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: And you know, no, that's a lot would need to

1675
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 1: happen for that to even be a possibility. No, the

1676
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: divisions right for them, and really the conference. Their goal

1677
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: is to get my homes back healthy and get a

1678
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: buy and I think that is right in front of

1679
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: them to to accomplish. I don't think that's out of

1680
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: it too. And who knows Baltimore, New England next week,

1681
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, find a way next week. Alright, we could

1682
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: go wrong for Baltimore. That Vikings team is rolling right,

1683
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: NFC North is crazy right now, there's fans. You already

1684
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: have a loss to the Packers. You're three and four,

1685
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: the Vikings are seven and one. I mean, that feels

1686
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: over for the Bears right now. And that is an

1687
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: incredible race where the loser between the Vikings and the

1688
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: Packers are gonna have to be on the road and

1689
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: to start the playoffs. News, old, old news. And before

1690
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: we sign off, this was a tough day for you, Mark,

1691
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: not talking about the Browns. Shack Barrett got his tenth

1692
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: sack of the season. I'm sorry, I mean, we're all sorry.

1693
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: My prediction at least, I'll say this. It feels like

1694
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: it was a month and a half ago that he

1695
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: had eight and then he had nine suddenly, and then

1696
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: he stuck it and he stood at nine for a while.

1697
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: You know, well, you you predented it was not sack. Yeah,

1698
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: you you said he would not get it. It's he's

1699
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: had four games since and he has two sacks in

1700
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, that's that's okay. I mean there

1701
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: was something to it well, and it was not just

1702
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett or late. But what is it about Jack

1703
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Barrett that you personally We've already been there. I mean,

1704
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: this is redundant for anyone that's listening to more than

1705
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: one episode at this point. Taysom Hill, good day. Then

1706
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill scored great. All right, we'll be back Tuesday.

1707
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: They both suck. How about that? Um? One more? One

1708
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: sucks just a little more, That's true. One is a

1709
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: little bit more of a disappointment, though, I don't know,

1710
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 1: it depends who you're asking, Like, who is your dad

1711
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: more disappointed with the Browns of the Jets? I don't know.

1712
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 1: This is going nowhere. All right. We will be back

1713
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 1: on Tuesday with a great episode. It's trade deadline Tuesday,

1714
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be here recording right as the deadline hits,

1715
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and so make sure you check in on that. And

1716
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 1: then of course, you know it goes. We'll preview the

1717
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: first game of week nine and we do the whole

1718
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: thing again. We are a well oiled machine right now,

1719
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Then had the signing off

1720
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the old boss Rick Hollywood

1721
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: behind the glass, everyone else find the glass. Thanks everybody.

1722
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: Tail Tuesday,