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Happy Thursday night, everybody with my broadcast 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.040 partner from WBBM News Radio seven eighty one to five 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.920 point nine FM, mister Tom Thair, back with us and 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.720 coming up at our next segment, and for most of 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.200 the show we joined by our special guest each week 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.080 series x MNFL radio host Jim Miller, the former Bears quarterback. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.920 Special guest tonight, Bottom of the Hour local product, former 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:57.520 NFL player and really outstanding analyst at the ESPN national level, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.640 Matt Bowen will join us as well. Tom. Good evening, 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:03.160 How you fee Big Jeff? You know I'm confused, and 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.520 I know we're fourteen We're fourteen days away from the draft, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:11.520 and the more draft information I ingest, I get more confused. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:16.120 About the actuality of this draft, because you talk about 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:21.200 every different line of you know, how how people the 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.560 mock drafts and everything, and then I see Charlie Casserley 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.560 today say Justin Fields is going to go twenty fourth 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:32.800 to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now for months, for months, though, Jeff, 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.680 I see how quarterbacks are gonna go one, two, three, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.480 four for the first time in the draft. So now, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.080 fourteen days before the draft, is he going to be 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.840 the next Aaron Rodgers? Is he gonna be the next 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.400 you know, falling you know, falling quarterback that sinks? Or 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.200 is it going to be a guy like Mac Jones. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.160 So the more information I try to adjust, the more 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.320 confused I get. Well, you know, begins with this premise, though, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.960 what is your feeling as a as a former NFL 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.120 player and now as you call yourself a football describer, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.840 as an analyst, how serious do you take all of 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:13.440 these mock drafts? Because I hope you don't. Well, I 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.840 don't take them serious though, But it's the huge discrepancy 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.079 in between one week when they do their mock their 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.640 first mock draft, and then a couple of weeks later 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.880 they do the their third mock draft. And then these 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.920 more of these quarterback days that I sit here and watch. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.640 They don't impress me. I don't get over excited about 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.800 what a quarterback can do with no one else on 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.440 the field other than them and a receiver, no matter 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.120 who it is. I'm talking about all the candidates here. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.520 I'm not picking on justin fields. I'm talking about each 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.239 and every one of them. So, like I said, and 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.360 even watching the big defensive edge rusher, which is the 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.480 term I've learned to hate this this pre draft information 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.280 is the edge. This the big guy from Miami who 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.519 doesn't have a great deal of experience, but now they're 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.840 trying to elevate them because they get a chance to 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.679 look at him on the field with no shirt on 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.240 on the way he runs through drills. Listen, Jeff, running 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.600 through drills is nothing like playing the game of football. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.200 So again, I'm really looking forward to the draft because 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.840 I know I'm gonna be more confused next week when 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.320 you say, hey, what's up, I'm gonna know you know what. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.079 You're not gonna be confused. You know why, because you're 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.839 gonna sit there You've been watching. You're the best way 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.040 you can without watching the all twenty two tape. You've 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.400 been watching guys, and what happens on tape is the 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.520 ninety nine percent of what you're going to evaluate these 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.720 guys with, not because these guys may have opted out 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.520 and chiseled up their body to show off with their 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.120 shirt off on a pro day forty. So don't get on. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:50.200 My advice to you, my good friend, is don't get agitated. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.920 These are There's so many draft analysts out there rely 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.160 on what every scout in the National Football League and 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.520 hopefully every general manager and coach rely on your instincts 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.360 and your eyeballs. Tom, that's it. That's I have to 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.680 pass the eye test. It's funny you say that, because 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.720 last night I was watching some information about some of 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.360 these NFL ready players that we're working out. This is 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.680 the all physique draft. I know. It started with the 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.839 big receiver from Seattle when he walked into meet Pete 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.680 Carroll and took his shirt off before he entered a 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.680 DK metcalf. So when I look at these guys this year, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.320 it's it's some of the most impressive physiques of football 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.000 players that I've ever seen. But I've seen a lot 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.839 of great football players that haven't had that impressive of 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.880 a physique. So again, it'll be interesting to see how 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.840 we see this draft in a couple of years, because 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.320 it's not gonna be You're not gonna get a team 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.480 a grade after the draft. It's gonna be about where 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.400 are these guys two years, three years down the road? Well, 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.960 most importantly, where is their health at. That's a big 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.800 part of this two making sure there okay. But your guy, 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.560 Quinn Miners, the Wisconsin whitewater product, threw up thirty three 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.640 on the bench today at a pro day, so that 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.280 was the only thing he had left to do. So 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.840 he probably solidified himself as a higher end first I mean, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.520 second day draft pick than our early third day draft pick. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.839 But a good looking guard center looked like they're going 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.080 to project in the play center, and you were kind 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.919 of interested about him. We'll break all that downtom. You 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.120 kind of dap yourself down a little bit. I know 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.560 you're all worked up. That's a great way. You're like 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.880 the Tim Anderson of the show. You know, he's back 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.800 in the white sax shorts up. Add some juice to 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.120 the story. You know, that's what you're doing for tonight's show. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.120 And I appreciate that very much. I know our listeners 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.960 do too. A fired up tom Day or is the best. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.800 I watched every pitch of the no hitter last night, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.000 so that was something else. So as a fast topic 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.799 number two, Yeah, that was something else. A lot to discuss, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.160 one pack some of it with Jim Miller coming up next. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.560 This is Bears All Access brought to you by IGS 0:05:54.680 --> 0:06:04.040 Energy on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.240 back everybody to Bears All Access or brought to you 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.200 by IGS Energy. Fine folks, choose clean energy for your 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.200 home at igs dot com because every good choice adds 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.039 up to a better award, a better show. When Jim 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:18.080 Miller drops in, our analyst and former Chicago Bears quarterback 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.320 leading at oh one unit to the playoffs, got a 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.400 great nugget this week, Big Jim on Marty Booker. I 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.560 threw times when I saw it on Twitter. Your guy, 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.240 your guy, Marty Booty, Yeah right, he was we talking 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.279 about him on this show before. But Julian Edelman and 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.719 his retirement and the idea that you know, I don't 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.400 know if you guys talked about it on Serior Sex 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.880 m NFL Radio or show with Pat Crowd and moving 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.719 the chains every weekday about a potential Hall of fame, 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.440 But they I don't. I think it was I think 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.920 it was CBS on Football or somebody came up with 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.320 the stat line of Marty's career and Edelman I threw 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.120 it at Tom and I said, who what what former 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.680 Bear receiver does this remind you? And Tom nailed it, 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.320 he said, Marty Booker, we actually scored more touchdowns in 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.160 Edelman man. I didn't play for playoff games, nor did 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.080 he win a super Bowl or be an MVP. But 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.599 it was just a nice little comparison. He was a 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.880 heck of a receiver. Oh, Marty was a terrific recive. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.640 He was absolutely fearless going over the middle, had big 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.840 play potential all around him. And once he you know, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.200 he said a little weight and got even in faster. 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.400 But Marty was a terrific athlete. I don't think people 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.760 realized he could throw a football like eighty yards. Just 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:31.160 a really laid back guy, but worked extremely hard. You know, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.160 he has that just that southern laid back attitude. Well boy, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.080 he would get once he put that helmet on, man, 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:40.360 he turned into Superman out there. Awesome. You know, Marty 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.880 Booker was kind of the old generation style of receivers 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.160 that it wasn't necessarily your forty time. It was like, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.200 what type of physical presence did you bring down field? 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.560 Could you go up and catch a ball even though 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.720 there is a defensive back in your face? White Tupper? 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.800 What type of courage and presence did you have across 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.040 the middle? And I thought Marty Booker throughout his time 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.640 here with the Bears, he got the most out of 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.760 his gifted ability and he had huge hands, he had 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.440 the ability to take footballs away from defensive backs, and 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.040 I think he got he got the best out of 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.640 his career. And when Jeff brought up the similarity in 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.960 the numbers, because the first narrative after Edelman did retire 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.640 was the Hall of Fame is he gonna be? Is 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.400 he a Hall of Fame candidate? And so when Jeff 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:33.079 brings up those types of numbers, Yeah, the one side 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.920 of it, you know, Marty didn't have the side of 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.760 it success that Edelman had. However, in comparison of performance, 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:46.000 Marty Booker was everything that Julian Edelman was. Hey, Jim, 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.760 I need you to help me out, help our friend here. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.559 Because he started the show with the Laddino if you 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.160 heard he started with a ladder man. He's getting irritated 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.240 with all the different mock drafts. He doesn't understand how 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.360 you know, Justin Fields could be pick twenty four according 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:03.040 to Charlie Cash really today. So will you please tell 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.280 him it's just an exercise and fun, you know, because yeah, yes, 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.520 there's not a lot of there's some that have an 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.680 idea and a range of where guys are gonna fall 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.400 based on what they hear from teams. But there's a 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.880 lot of mistruths out there are a lot of rumors. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.240 But I think Tom Tom needs a little uh, I 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:21.760 don't know what you need a little You need a 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.439 little bit more direct information from the people in the 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.480 league that know what's going on. All that all that 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.640 misinformation is out there and some of its planet. You know, 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.440 it's just like the other day that you know, it's 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.040 it's somewhat you know about Justin Fields not being a 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.360 worker and he is the last one in the building, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.280 last one league. And I kind of when I heard 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.280 that one, uh, you know, I kind of laughed about 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.080 it because it was Justin Fields of Ohio State who 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.079 Axley got the Big ten to play football last year, right, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.480 He's the one that got everybody together to push it 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.719 over the goal line to even get the Big ten 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.640 to play. So he cares about football tremendously. But I 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.760 think there's just a lot of non sense out there. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.840 And probably the funniest mock draft I saw was Kyle 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.880 Pitts fallen out of the top ten as a tight 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.640 end from Florida, which there's no way that's going to happen. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.280 So you definitely have to be leary what's going on 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.080 out there right now. You know, one thing that Casserley 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.400 did say that I think is right if when you 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.640 look at Joe Burrow last year going to Cincinnati to 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.920 a poorous offensive line and then getting injured in the 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.480 long run on how much abuse he took during the season, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:32.720 is Cincinnati closer to a Super Bowl than he said? 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.840 Justin Fields is going to go twenty fourth to the 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.400 Pittsburgh Steelers, and it's a good organization and they have 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.480 a track record of success unlike a lot of others, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.439 and so maybe it would be better for Justin Fields 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.080 to go to Pittsburgh. Then it would be to one 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.000 of the top teams that are in desperate need of 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.120 a quarterback. So that is the one, you know, a 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.920 thing that I said, Wow, you know, maybe he's not 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.360 wrong and maybe this is the best thing for Justin Field. Well, 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.959 he's gonna drop that far that Mattagus at his workout 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.959 yesterday the second workout s Jim, don't let him go 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.760 past twenty. Yeah, I would think so. I don't see 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.800 him getting out of the top ten for Justin Fields. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.640 I mean, his numbers were off the charts. He's got 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.080 the big wins against a top ranked team. You know, 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.240 he if you go back and look at he and 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.680 Trevor Lawrence. Trevor obviously has more games than him under 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.960 his belt, but basically their wins against top competition are 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.920 the same. I do question his fumbles has probably one 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.520 issue I have about Justin Fields. He's got twelve fumbles 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.400 in two years. So that's like Sam darnold territory. But 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.400 Sam still went high to the Jets. But unfortunately, as 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.080 Tom mentioned, when you're getting drafted that high, you're getting 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.480 drafted by bad teams. There's not a lot around you, 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.160 you know, even look at since Nattie this year. Yeah, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.240 they've been active in free agency, but is there enough 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.959 around Joe Burrow that they're still not going to finish 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.920 fourth in their division in the AFC North, I mean 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.160 with Baltimore and Pittsburgh and now the emergence of Cleveland. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.199 I mean, if they get to eight and eight, you 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.679 would think Cincinnati is making strides just because they're bad 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.040 teams that need to put a lot of a lot 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.520 of good pieces around their young quarterbacks in order to 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.319 build them. And unfortunately that wasn't in place last year 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.000 and Jill Burrow got hurt and couldn't finish the season. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.120 I got a question for both of you and time 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.760 just from you know, your degrees of separation from so 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.400 many people that have played from the USFL from Notre 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.680 Dame to your NFL career with the Bears and Jim 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.199 being with multiple teams and now making this a career 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.760 for yourself and one of the names that have popped 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.120 into my head because you know, Jerry Angelo always you 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.680 say you got to have a plan whenever your draft, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.680 you better have a plan for that player. But that 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.480 plan has to include is, particularly at the quarterback position, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.280 that you put enough assets around somebody. You just can't 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.839 send the guy out there and think I don't care 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:53.880 who it is and think he's just going to make 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.680 everybody better. Those number of quarterbacks you can fit on 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.440 your thumb in the history of the game period. But 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.800 I think of a guy like David Carr. So in 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.800 your respective views of him as a player, Tom and Jim, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.920 I'm sure you interviewed him many times. I mean, would 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.959 that guy's career have turned out differently if he was protected, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.720 because I can't recall quarterback that took more of a 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.680 beating in his first several years in Houston and David 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.520 Carr and it kind of ruined him. I mean, well, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.840 you know, am I wrong in that analysis? You're right 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.959 because the first player they picked was Tony Basselli and 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.360 the expansion Draft, and then they never drafted an offensive 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.760 lineman above the third round when he was there with Houston, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.880 So you're exactly right. They never surrounded him with the 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.760 protection that he needed in order to have the you know, 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.160 add the competitiveness of the quarterback position, or be safely 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.360 protected or being able to be an asset where he 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.400 you know, he had better opportunities distribute the ball. So 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.920 when you think about Joe Burrows and Cincinnati and you 0:13:55.000 --> 0:14:00.600 talk about that offensive tackle from Oregon. Yeah. See, now 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.840 I look at film of him today and he's got 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.760 a harness on his left shoulder. So if he's going 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.079 to be a career left tackle and he's already got 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.560 a harness on his left shoulder in college, is his 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:15.280 left shoulder okay? Because if his left shoulder is not 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.280 up to the abuse that it's going to have to 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.640 put forth when you're playing that position, are you already 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.320 bringing in damaged goods? So if you're going to get 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.960 a quarterback, you better bring in players that are healthy 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.240 and ready to go from the moment they get there 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.640 to kind of grow throughout their career together. Yeah, I 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.840 think it's you know, you look at Sam Darnold, did this? 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.880 I mean, look at all these first round quarterbacks that 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:42.400 are now in new homes, whether it's Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.480 Sam Darnold's the most recent where they don't want to 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.480 put the fifth year option and they end up trading 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.360 him to Carolina. Sam Darnold did not have a lot 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.920 of help and a lot of talent around him for 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.240 the New York Jets, which historically they've had some bad 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.680 teams as of late, so they've got a lot of 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.280 work to do there because it looks like they're going 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.840 to be drafting another quarterback again, but they're better suited 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.080 with all the assets that they have to put, you know, 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.880 put some good talent around, whether it's Zach Wilson or 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.160 Fields or whoever, whatever quarterback they select, at least now 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.840 they've got some assets where they can add to their team. Ads. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.720 For David Carr, I thought it was a little bit 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.920 of both because I remember watching tape on David Carr 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.600 for Houston and he for me, he struggled going through 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.800 his reads. A lot of times, he wouldn't get from 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.480 one to two. He locked down as receivers, then he'd 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.880 be getting sacked, the ball wouldn't be getting out of 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.720 his hands. So I think there was a little bit 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.880 of both going on where the offensive line was getting 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.880 thrown under the bus for the Houston Texans, when some 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.280 of that was on the quarterback as well, who didn't 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.520 develop immature over time. But maybe he got shell shocked. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.960 I don't know. Jim. Let me ask you a question. 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.840 Throughout your career in the NFL, did you have a 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.000 time frame within your head that you knew that you 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.240 had to get rid of the ball, and maybe when 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.600 a kay like David Carr that knew he didn't have 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.680 those four seconds or whatever your number is in your head, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.960 that he's thinking, oh my god, I don't have time 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.360 to get to my third read because I know I'm 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.080 going to get hit here soon. So can that affect 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.040 a quarterbacks development throughout his career if he knows he 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.520 only has that two point two seconds rather than the 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.600 number that you're gonna give me. Yeah, yeah, every play, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.360 at least pass plays, they're going to have a rhythm 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.080 to it. You know where where you're when you're dropping 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.000 back and you're already going through your read. Say it's 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.640 a seventh step drop, I'm already dropping to say it's 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.440 I'll just call arbitrary to play. Let's call eighty two 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.600 x in. Let's just call zero strong eighty two x in. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.360 X is on the end, cut s's on the post. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.400 Tight end is dragging across the field to the opposite 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.360 hash and then your backs, Your backs are really just checking. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.520 Why all right, it's a basic play in football. You know, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.120 when I'm dropping back and I see maybe the free safety, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.000 say it's a single high safety, and I see the 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.760 safety creeping towards the x in, I'm already off of 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.320 that x in. Or if the will backers dropping deep, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.960 I'm already onto my second read. All right, my second 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.440 read's going to be my tight end, you know where 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.200 I'm going to check it down to my tight end. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.480 Or say, if that free safety comes over, I may 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.439 pump that post route as my second read. And I 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.040 know I'm going deep because that free safety has now 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.560 crept over trying to take away the incut. Now my 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.320 front side post route should be open. So by the 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.120 time I hit my seventh step, all this is being processed. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.320 If it's all covered, then I'm just going to hit 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.919 one of my probably my weak side check whide by 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.919 the running back. So by the time I hit my 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.120 fifth step or my seventh step, excuse me, I hitch, 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.280 and that ball is out. That's the timing of that play. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.960 All that has to be digested of during your drop, 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.040 not at the top of your drop, during your drop, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.400 in order to get that ball out of your hand. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.800 And some guys just don't process that process all that 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.920 information quickly enough. It takes time. You get better at 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.280 it over time, the more you do and the more 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:58.960 you understand defenses, where you get that ball out of 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.600 your hand. So replay is gonna take on, you know, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.000 have its own timing to it or when that ball 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.480 needs to come out. XS and Ouser, Tom Thayer and 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.879 Jim Miller here on Bears All Access brought to you 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.600 by IGS Energy. We're gonna take a break. Coming up 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.200 at the bottom of the hour, We'll be joined by 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.800 Matt bowing. This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:25.080 Radio six seventy to score. The Chicago Bears Network presents 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.040 Inside the Bears, brought to you by a Verizon. Our 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.640 good friend Anthony Adams and I equally a good friend, 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.639 Laurence Greed, and cover the world of Bears football and 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.399 off the field every Sunday night, ten thirty five pm 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.840 on Fox thirty two Chicago, or watch anytime at Chicago 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.639 Bears dot Com or on the Bears official app. Moments 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.040 away from Matt Bowen joining the program, All right, Jim, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.600 here's one for you and Tom. Take quarterbacks out of 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.399 the first round of the draft. Who would be the 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.800 first three picks of the draft in your respective opinions 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.240 if it was not a quarterback? And I'm gonna start 0:18:56.240 --> 0:19:01.120 with Jim m Yeah, I'd probably say Kyle Pitts, the 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.479 tight end from Florida, would probably go first, and then 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.720 I'd probably say Jamar Chase, the LSU wide receiver, would 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.240 go second. And then I'd probably say Pennay Sewell, the 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.080 Oregon tackle who were sticking on the offensive mine. There's 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.400 never been a tight end draft at number one overall 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.960 and a wide receiver last time. I think it was 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.640 Keyshawn Johnson Tom in ninety six. And as it is, 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.159 there may not be a defensive player with the quarterbacks 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.760 and the names he just mentioned that will be picked 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.240 until you know, possibly after ten, eleven, twelve. So who 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.639 are you? Who are your tap three? No quarterback? Um? 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.359 You know is reluctant as I am to go with 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.040 Sewell because I need to see his health and his structure. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.640 I like him. Like Jim said, with the first pick 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:47.560 at the at the tackle position, Um wow, it's kind 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.720 of a you know I I you know, Jeff, honestly, 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.480 I would probably go offensive line across the board top three. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.560 Um yeah, so you got a little Jim pinks in you. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.119 You got a little Jim pinxing you. I do. But 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.320 you know, if I had if I had that Aaron 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.199 Donald out there, and again I kind of und I 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.679 underdrafted when he came out of college, but his performance 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.840 obviously speaks for itself. If there was that kind of 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.160 dominator at that position, I'd have to think there, but 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.480 I would have to go offensive line across the board. 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.000 It depending upon what my quarterback position looks like. I'm 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.240 not saying I would pick a quarterback, but I need 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.440 protection for my quarterback, all right, So I'm assuming yeah, 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.560 And I would throw with Sean Slater in there of 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.399 Northwestern as one of my top three. And I have 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.359