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Speaker 1: How you fee Big Jeff? You know I'm confused, and
Speaker 1: I know we're fourteen We're fourteen days away from the draft,
Speaker 1: and the more draft information I ingest, I get more confused.
Speaker 1: About the actuality of this draft, because you talk about
Speaker 1: every different line of you know, how how people the
Speaker 1: mock drafts and everything, and then I see Charlie Casserley
Speaker 1: today say Justin Fields is going to go twenty fourth
Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now for months, for months, though, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I see how quarterbacks are gonna go one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four for the first time in the draft. So now,
Speaker 1: fourteen days before the draft, is he going to be
Speaker 1: the next Aaron Rodgers? Is he gonna be the next
Speaker 1: you know, falling you know, falling quarterback that sinks? Or
Speaker 1: is it going to be a guy like Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: So the more information I try to adjust, the more
Speaker 1: confused I get. Well, you know, begins with this premise, though,
Speaker 1: what is your feeling as a as a former NFL
Speaker 1: player and now as you call yourself a football describer,
Speaker 1: as an analyst, how serious do you take all of
Speaker 1: these mock drafts? Because I hope you don't. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't take them serious though, But it's the huge discrepancy
Speaker 1: in between one week when they do their mock their
Speaker 1: first mock draft, and then a couple of weeks later
Speaker 1: they do the their third mock draft. And then these
Speaker 1: more of these quarterback days that I sit here and watch.
Speaker 1: They don't impress me. I don't get over excited about
Speaker 1: what a quarterback can do with no one else on
Speaker 1: the field other than them and a receiver, no matter
Speaker 1: who it is. I'm talking about all the candidates here.
Speaker 1: I'm not picking on justin fields. I'm talking about each
Speaker 1: and every one of them. So, like I said, and
Speaker 1: even watching the big defensive edge rusher, which is the
Speaker 1: term I've learned to hate this this pre draft information
Speaker 1: is the edge. This the big guy from Miami who
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great deal of experience, but now they're
Speaker 1: trying to elevate them because they get a chance to
Speaker 1: look at him on the field with no shirt on
Speaker 1: on the way he runs through drills. Listen, Jeff, running
Speaker 1: through drills is nothing like playing the game of football.
Speaker 1: So again, I'm really looking forward to the draft because
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be more confused next week when
Speaker 1: you say, hey, what's up, I'm gonna know you know what.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be confused. You know why, because you're
Speaker 1: gonna sit there You've been watching. You're the best way
Speaker 1: you can without watching the all twenty two tape. You've
Speaker 1: been watching guys, and what happens on tape is the
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of what you're going to evaluate these
Speaker 1: guys with, not because these guys may have opted out
Speaker 1: and chiseled up their body to show off with their
Speaker 1: shirt off on a pro day forty. So don't get on.
Speaker 1: My advice to you, my good friend, is don't get agitated.
Speaker 1: These are There's so many draft analysts out there rely
Speaker 1: on what every scout in the National Football League and
Speaker 1: hopefully every general manager and coach rely on your instincts
Speaker 1: and your eyeballs. Tom, that's it. That's I have to
Speaker 1: pass the eye test. It's funny you say that, because
Speaker 1: last night I was watching some information about some of
Speaker 1: these NFL ready players that we're working out. This is
Speaker 1: the all physique draft. I know. It started with the
Speaker 1: big receiver from Seattle when he walked into meet Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll and took his shirt off before he entered a
Speaker 1: DK metcalf. So when I look at these guys this year,
Speaker 1: it's it's some of the most impressive physiques of football
Speaker 1: players that I've ever seen. But I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of great football players that haven't had that impressive of
Speaker 1: a physique. So again, it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: we see this draft in a couple of years, because
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be You're not gonna get a team
Speaker 1: a grade after the draft. It's gonna be about where
Speaker 1: are these guys two years, three years down the road? Well,
Speaker 1: most importantly, where is their health at. That's a big
Speaker 1: part of this two making sure there okay. But your guy,
Speaker 1: Quinn Miners, the Wisconsin whitewater product, threw up thirty three
Speaker 1: on the bench today at a pro day, so that
Speaker 1: was the only thing he had left to do. So
Speaker 1: he probably solidified himself as a higher end first I mean,
Speaker 1: second day draft pick than our early third day draft pick.
Speaker 1: But a good looking guard center looked like they're going
Speaker 1: to project in the play center, and you were kind
Speaker 1: of interested about him. We'll break all that downtom. You
Speaker 1: kind of dap yourself down a little bit. I know
Speaker 1: you're all worked up. That's a great way. You're like
Speaker 1: the Tim Anderson of the show. You know, he's back
Speaker 1: in the white sax shorts up. Add some juice to
Speaker 1: the story. You know, that's what you're doing for tonight's show.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that very much. I know our listeners
Speaker 1: do too. A fired up tom Day or is the best.
Speaker 1: I watched every pitch of the no hitter last night,
Speaker 1: so that was something else. So as a fast topic
Speaker 1: number two, Yeah, that was something else. A lot to discuss,
Speaker 1: one pack some of it with Jim Miller coming up next.
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Speaker 1: leading at oh one unit to the playoffs, got a
Speaker 1: great nugget this week, Big Jim on Marty Booker. I
Speaker 1: threw times when I saw it on Twitter. Your guy,
Speaker 1: your guy, Marty Booty, Yeah right, he was we talking
Speaker 1: about him on this show before. But Julian Edelman and
Speaker 1: his retirement and the idea that you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys talked about it on Serior Sex
Speaker 1: m NFL Radio or show with Pat Crowd and moving
Speaker 1: the chains every weekday about a potential Hall of fame,
Speaker 1: But they I don't. I think it was I think
Speaker 1: it was CBS on Football or somebody came up with
Speaker 1: the stat line of Marty's career and Edelman I threw
Speaker 1: it at Tom and I said, who what what former
Speaker 1: Bear receiver does this remind you? And Tom nailed it,
Speaker 1: he said, Marty Booker, we actually scored more touchdowns in
Speaker 1: Edelman man. I didn't play for playoff games, nor did
Speaker 1: he win a super Bowl or be an MVP. But
Speaker 1: it was just a nice little comparison. He was a
Speaker 1: heck of a receiver. Oh, Marty was a terrific recive.
Speaker 1: He was absolutely fearless going over the middle, had big
Speaker 1: play potential all around him. And once he you know,
Speaker 1: he said a little weight and got even in faster.
Speaker 1: But Marty was a terrific athlete. I don't think people
Speaker 1: realized he could throw a football like eighty yards. Just
Speaker 1: a really laid back guy, but worked extremely hard. You know,
Speaker 1: he has that just that southern laid back attitude. Well boy,
Speaker 1: he would get once he put that helmet on, man,
Speaker 1: he turned into Superman out there. Awesome. You know, Marty
Speaker 1: Booker was kind of the old generation style of receivers
Speaker 1: that it wasn't necessarily your forty time. It was like,
Speaker 1: what type of physical presence did you bring down field?
Speaker 1: Could you go up and catch a ball even though
Speaker 1: there is a defensive back in your face? White Tupper?
Speaker 1: What type of courage and presence did you have across
Speaker 1: the middle? And I thought Marty Booker throughout his time
Speaker 1: here with the Bears, he got the most out of
Speaker 1: his gifted ability and he had huge hands, he had
Speaker 1: the ability to take footballs away from defensive backs, and
Speaker 1: I think he got he got the best out of
Speaker 1: his career. And when Jeff brought up the similarity in
Speaker 1: the numbers, because the first narrative after Edelman did retire
Speaker 1: was the Hall of Fame is he gonna be? Is
Speaker 1: he a Hall of Fame candidate? And so when Jeff
Speaker 1: brings up those types of numbers, Yeah, the one side
Speaker 1: of it, you know, Marty didn't have the side of
Speaker 1: it success that Edelman had. However, in comparison of performance,
Speaker 1: Marty Booker was everything that Julian Edelman was. Hey, Jim,
Speaker 1: I need you to help me out, help our friend here.
Speaker 1: Because he started the show with the Laddino if you
Speaker 1: heard he started with a ladder man. He's getting irritated
Speaker 1: with all the different mock drafts. He doesn't understand how
Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields could be pick twenty four according
Speaker 1: to Charlie Cash really today. So will you please tell
Speaker 1: him it's just an exercise and fun, you know, because yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of there's some that have an
Speaker 1: idea and a range of where guys are gonna fall
Speaker 1: based on what they hear from teams. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of mistruths out there are a lot of rumors.
Speaker 1: But I think Tom Tom needs a little uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you need a little You need a
Speaker 1: little bit more direct information from the people in the
Speaker 1: league that know what's going on. All that all that
Speaker 1: misinformation is out there and some of its planet. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just like the other day that you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's somewhat you know about Justin Fields not being a
Speaker 1: worker and he is the last one in the building,
Speaker 1: last one league. And I kind of when I heard
Speaker 1: that one, uh, you know, I kind of laughed about
Speaker 1: it because it was Justin Fields of Ohio State who
Speaker 1: Axley got the Big ten to play football last year, right,
Speaker 1: He's the one that got everybody together to push it
Speaker 1: over the goal line to even get the Big ten
Speaker 1: to play. So he cares about football tremendously. But I
Speaker 1: think there's just a lot of non sense out there.
Speaker 1: And probably the funniest mock draft I saw was Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts fallen out of the top ten as a tight
Speaker 1: end from Florida, which there's no way that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So you definitely have to be leary what's going on
Speaker 1: out there right now. You know, one thing that Casserley
Speaker 1: did say that I think is right if when you
Speaker 1: look at Joe Burrow last year going to Cincinnati to
Speaker 1: a poorous offensive line and then getting injured in the
Speaker 1: long run on how much abuse he took during the season,
Speaker 1: is Cincinnati closer to a Super Bowl than he said?
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is going to go twenty fourth to the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, and it's a good organization and they have
Speaker 1: a track record of success unlike a lot of others,
Speaker 1: and so maybe it would be better for Justin Fields
Speaker 1: to go to Pittsburgh. Then it would be to one
Speaker 1: of the top teams that are in desperate need of
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So that is the one, you know, a
Speaker 1: thing that I said, Wow, you know, maybe he's not
Speaker 1: wrong and maybe this is the best thing for Justin Field. Well,
Speaker 1: he's gonna drop that far that Mattagus at his workout
Speaker 1: yesterday the second workout s Jim, don't let him go
Speaker 1: past twenty. Yeah, I would think so. I don't see
Speaker 1: him getting out of the top ten for Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I mean, his numbers were off the charts. He's got
Speaker 1: the big wins against a top ranked team. You know,
Speaker 1: he if you go back and look at he and
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Trevor obviously has more games than him under
Speaker 1: his belt, but basically their wins against top competition are
Speaker 1: the same. I do question his fumbles has probably one
Speaker 1: issue I have about Justin Fields. He's got twelve fumbles
Speaker 1: in two years. So that's like Sam darnold territory. But
Speaker 1: Sam still went high to the Jets. But unfortunately, as
Speaker 1: Tom mentioned, when you're getting drafted that high, you're getting
Speaker 1: drafted by bad teams. There's not a lot around you,
Speaker 1: you know, even look at since Nattie this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been active in free agency, but is there enough
Speaker 1: around Joe Burrow that they're still not going to finish
Speaker 1: fourth in their division in the AFC North, I mean
Speaker 1: with Baltimore and Pittsburgh and now the emergence of Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they get to eight and eight, you
Speaker 1: would think Cincinnati is making strides just because they're bad
Speaker 1: teams that need to put a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of good pieces around their young quarterbacks in order to
Speaker 1: build them. And unfortunately that wasn't in place last year
Speaker 1: and Jill Burrow got hurt and couldn't finish the season.
Speaker 1: I got a question for both of you and time
Speaker 1: just from you know, your degrees of separation from so
Speaker 1: many people that have played from the USFL from Notre
Speaker 1: Dame to your NFL career with the Bears and Jim
Speaker 1: being with multiple teams and now making this a career
Speaker 1: for yourself and one of the names that have popped
Speaker 1: into my head because you know, Jerry Angelo always you
Speaker 1: say you got to have a plan whenever your draft,
Speaker 1: you better have a plan for that player. But that
Speaker 1: plan has to include is, particularly at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: that you put enough assets around somebody. You just can't
Speaker 1: send the guy out there and think I don't care
Speaker 1: who it is and think he's just going to make
Speaker 1: everybody better. Those number of quarterbacks you can fit on
Speaker 1: your thumb in the history of the game period. But
Speaker 1: I think of a guy like David Carr. So in
Speaker 1: your respective views of him as a player, Tom and Jim,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you interviewed him many times. I mean, would
Speaker 1: that guy's career have turned out differently if he was protected,
Speaker 1: because I can't recall quarterback that took more of a
Speaker 1: beating in his first several years in Houston and David
Speaker 1: Carr and it kind of ruined him. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you know, am I wrong in that analysis? You're right
Speaker 1: because the first player they picked was Tony Basselli and
Speaker 1: the expansion Draft, and then they never drafted an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman above the third round when he was there with Houston,
Speaker 1: So you're exactly right. They never surrounded him with the
Speaker 1: protection that he needed in order to have the you know,
Speaker 1: add the competitiveness of the quarterback position, or be safely
Speaker 1: protected or being able to be an asset where he
Speaker 1: you know, he had better opportunities distribute the ball. So
Speaker 1: when you think about Joe Burrows and Cincinnati and you
Speaker 1: talk about that offensive tackle from Oregon. Yeah. See, now
Speaker 1: I look at film of him today and he's got
Speaker 1: a harness on his left shoulder. So if he's going
Speaker 1: to be a career left tackle and he's already got
Speaker 1: a harness on his left shoulder in college, is his
Speaker 1: left shoulder okay? Because if his left shoulder is not
Speaker 1: up to the abuse that it's going to have to
Speaker 1: put forth when you're playing that position, are you already
Speaker 1: bringing in damaged goods? So if you're going to get
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you better bring in players that are healthy
Speaker 1: and ready to go from the moment they get there
Speaker 1: to kind of grow throughout their career together. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, you look at Sam Darnold, did this?
Speaker 1: I mean, look at all these first round quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are now in new homes, whether it's Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota.
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's the most recent where they don't want to
Speaker 1: put the fifth year option and they end up trading
Speaker 1: him to Carolina. Sam Darnold did not have a lot
Speaker 1: of help and a lot of talent around him for
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, which historically they've had some bad
Speaker 1: teams as of late, so they've got a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do there because it looks like they're going
Speaker 1: to be drafting another quarterback again, but they're better suited
Speaker 1: with all the assets that they have to put, you know,
Speaker 1: put some good talent around, whether it's Zach Wilson or
Speaker 1: Fields or whoever, whatever quarterback they select, at least now
Speaker 1: they've got some assets where they can add to their team. Ads.
Speaker 1: For David Carr, I thought it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of both because I remember watching tape on David Carr
Speaker 1: for Houston and he for me, he struggled going through
Speaker 1: his reads. A lot of times, he wouldn't get from
Speaker 1: one to two. He locked down as receivers, then he'd
Speaker 1: be getting sacked, the ball wouldn't be getting out of
Speaker 1: his hands. So I think there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of both going on where the offensive line was getting
Speaker 1: thrown under the bus for the Houston Texans, when some
Speaker 1: of that was on the quarterback as well, who didn't
Speaker 1: develop immature over time. But maybe he got shell shocked.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Jim. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Throughout your career in the NFL, did you have a
Speaker 1: time frame within your head that you knew that you
Speaker 1: had to get rid of the ball, and maybe when
Speaker 1: a kay like David Carr that knew he didn't have
Speaker 1: those four seconds or whatever your number is in your head,
Speaker 1: that he's thinking, oh my god, I don't have time
Speaker 1: to get to my third read because I know I'm
Speaker 1: going to get hit here soon. So can that affect
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks development throughout his career if he knows he
Speaker 1: only has that two point two seconds rather than the
Speaker 1: number that you're gonna give me. Yeah, yeah, every play,
Speaker 1: at least pass plays, they're going to have a rhythm
Speaker 1: to it. You know where where you're when you're dropping
Speaker 1: back and you're already going through your read. Say it's
Speaker 1: a seventh step drop, I'm already dropping to say it's
Speaker 1: I'll just call arbitrary to play. Let's call eighty two
Speaker 1: x in. Let's just call zero strong eighty two x in.
Speaker 1: X is on the end, cut s's on the post.
Speaker 1: Tight end is dragging across the field to the opposite
Speaker 1: hash and then your backs, Your backs are really just checking.
Speaker 1: Why all right, it's a basic play in football. You know,
Speaker 1: when I'm dropping back and I see maybe the free safety,
Speaker 1: say it's a single high safety, and I see the
Speaker 1: safety creeping towards the x in, I'm already off of
Speaker 1: that x in. Or if the will backers dropping deep,
Speaker 1: I'm already onto my second read. All right, my second
Speaker 1: read's going to be my tight end, you know where
Speaker 1: I'm going to check it down to my tight end.
Speaker 1: Or say, if that free safety comes over, I may
Speaker 1: pump that post route as my second read. And I
Speaker 1: know I'm going deep because that free safety has now
Speaker 1: crept over trying to take away the incut. Now my
Speaker 1: front side post route should be open. So by the
Speaker 1: time I hit my seventh step, all this is being processed.
Speaker 1: If it's all covered, then I'm just going to hit
Speaker 1: one of my probably my weak side check whide by
Speaker 1: the running back. So by the time I hit my
Speaker 1: fifth step or my seventh step, excuse me, I hitch,
Speaker 1: and that ball is out. That's the timing of that play.
Speaker 1: All that has to be digested of during your drop,
Speaker 1: not at the top of your drop, during your drop,
Speaker 1: in order to get that ball out of your hand.
Speaker 1: And some guys just don't process that process all that
Speaker 1: information quickly enough. It takes time. You get better at
Speaker 1: it over time, the more you do and the more
Speaker 1: you understand defenses, where you get that ball out of
Speaker 1: your hand. So replay is gonna take on, you know,
Speaker 1: have its own timing to it or when that ball
Speaker 1: needs to come out. XS and Ouser, Tom Thayer and
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Speaker 1: away from Matt Bowen joining the program, All right, Jim,
Speaker 1: here's one for you and Tom. Take quarterbacks out of
Speaker 1: the first round of the draft. Who would be the
Speaker 1: first three picks of the draft in your respective opinions
Speaker 1: if it was not a quarterback? And I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with Jim m Yeah, I'd probably say Kyle Pitts, the
Speaker 1: tight end from Florida, would probably go first, and then
Speaker 1: I'd probably say Jamar Chase, the LSU wide receiver, would
Speaker 1: go second. And then I'd probably say Pennay Sewell, the
Speaker 1: Oregon tackle who were sticking on the offensive mine. There's
Speaker 1: never been a tight end draft at number one overall
Speaker 1: and a wide receiver last time. I think it was
Speaker 1: Keyshawn Johnson Tom in ninety six. And as it is,
Speaker 1: there may not be a defensive player with the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and the names he just mentioned that will be picked
Speaker 1: until you know, possibly after ten, eleven, twelve. So who
Speaker 1: are you? Who are your tap three? No quarterback? Um?
Speaker 1: You know is reluctant as I am to go with
Speaker 1: Sewell because I need to see his health and his structure.
Speaker 1: I like him. Like Jim said, with the first pick
Speaker 1: at the at the tackle position, Um wow, it's kind
Speaker 1: of a you know I I you know, Jeff, honestly,
Speaker 1: I would probably go offensive line across the board top three.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so you got a little Jim pinks in you.
Speaker 1: You got a little Jim pinxing you. I do. But
Speaker 1: you know, if I had if I had that Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald out there, and again I kind of und I
Speaker 1: underdrafted when he came out of college, but his performance
Speaker 1: obviously speaks for itself. If there was that kind of
Speaker 1: dominator at that position, I'd have to think there, but
Speaker 1: I would have to go offensive line across the board.
Speaker 1: It depending upon what my quarterback position looks like. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I would pick a quarterback, but I need
Speaker 1: protection for my quarterback, all right, So I'm assuming yeah,
Speaker 1: And I would throw with Sean Slater in there of
Speaker 1: Northwestern as one of my top three. And I have
Speaker 1: to do one of the receivers, but Jim, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't decipher which one Wado, Davante Smith, Chase Third.
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness, you can't go wrong. And I definitely,
Speaker 1: and maybe this would burn both of us, but I
Speaker 1: would definitely put Kyle Pitts as the number one pick.
Speaker 1: He just seemed Tom Shaking has said more man hours
Speaker 1: lost at the tight end position, but this guy, he
Speaker 1: doesn't even seem like a tight end. He just seems
Speaker 1: like a skill player period. Well you know the the
Speaker 1: tight end in Oakland, Darren Waller or in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: You see how what he's been able to do for
Speaker 1: the Raiders in the development of his career, in turn,
Speaker 1: more to an explosive, thick receiver than a really blocking
Speaker 1: tight end. So if you're going after Pitts, you're looking
Speaker 1: at the one dimension and that's him performing like a
Speaker 1: big time receiver. If you're gonna go to a three
Speaker 1: tight end package, if you're going to a goal line
Speaker 1: short yardage offense, don't include him at the point of
Speaker 1: attack because that's not the type of guy that is
Speaker 1: going to extend his career. That's not what he's going
Speaker 1: to be in the NFL for I think it'd be
Speaker 1: effort is there and he'll get better at blocking. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing with Pitts what's good about him. You know,
Speaker 1: if you split him out and flex said him, a
Speaker 1: linebacker has to walk out of the box, so there's
Speaker 1: one less guy in there where you can run the
Speaker 1: football where he created he an Now he's created space
Speaker 1: just as a threat as a receiver. So I think
Speaker 1: the effort is there, But he's a chess piece You're
Speaker 1: gonna move all over the field. It's what he is.
Speaker 1: He's got freakish numbers, unbelievable wingspan, his yards after the
Speaker 1: catch is ridiculous with what he provides, and he's definitely
Speaker 1: a mismatch out on the field, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: if you do walk him out and flex him like
Speaker 1: I said, if you try to bring a safety in
Speaker 1: to cover him, good luck with that. He'll run right
Speaker 1: past these guys or a linebacker trying to cover him.
Speaker 1: It's an absolute mismatch with the physically what he's able
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe maybe better with a tap next to
Speaker 1: a tackle if he's putting his hand in the dirt
Speaker 1: a three point stance. But as it is, he has
Speaker 1: a chance to be the first tight end taking in
Speaker 1: the top five. Tim and Jim in fifty years, can
Speaker 1: you name one of them? Riley Oldhams remember Riley Odam's
Speaker 1: time when you're growing up Denver Broncos. All right, let's
Speaker 1: switch gears, fellas, and welcome at our guest here for
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes or so. Please to be joined by
Speaker 1: our good friend Matt Bowen, who had a very good
Speaker 1: NFL career and does his work now for ESPN National
Speaker 1: and also does some prep football coaching here in the area.
Speaker 1: Tom and Jim, as we walcome in, Matt Bunn, Matt
Speaker 1: I know this is probably not ideal for you because
Speaker 1: you are swamped right now. You got a lot of
Speaker 1: balls in the air. But how things going. Things are
Speaker 1: going well. You know, obviously we're playing a spring football season.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what Jeff I got you on
Speaker 1: the phone. Saint Francis High School and they got us
Speaker 1: in week one and coach McMillan is doing an excellent
Speaker 1: job there. Since we're talking about the draft, quarterback Tommy Rittenhouse,
Speaker 1: you tell about all these traits in the draft. He
Speaker 1: is as Zach Wilson of Illinois High school football. I'll
Speaker 1: tell what his movement ability, his ability to throw off platform.
Speaker 1: I know it's his quarterback coach Greg Holcombe out here
Speaker 1: in the Western suburbs. But a lot of credits to
Speaker 1: Saint Francis. They got us in week one and coaching film.
Speaker 1: But I think our team has really developed. It's been
Speaker 1: a fun season and just to have the kids back
Speaker 1: on the field, the mental boost that they got. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's the mental boost I got from
Speaker 1: being back coaching, not having the opportunity to do it
Speaker 1: in the fall. So it's a positive for everyone. You
Speaker 1: get to play football, the seniors get to you know,
Speaker 1: put the pads on for a couple more weeks. It's all,
Speaker 1: it's all positive, and you're over it. I see over
Speaker 1: there in Elmhurst and you do a great job there.
Speaker 1: And the reason he brought it up my daughters are
Speaker 1: Saint Francis graduates, and that that family of Tommy's is
Speaker 1: outstanding athletic family. So, uh, you know, you were supposed
Speaker 1: to invite me to that game. I was going to
Speaker 1: patrol the sidelines with you, buddy, and I I saw
Speaker 1: a two weeks to score. Two weeks later, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Hey, well, we will play in Wheaton next year,
Speaker 1: so I will invite you on our sidelines. We go
Speaker 1: out to Wheaton next year to play for sounds good, Hey, Matt,
Speaker 1: be careful of the Hilltoppers. They put forty nine on
Speaker 1: carmel Mondo line last week, so just to you know,
Speaker 1: keep your head on the swivel, hey, Matt. So we're
Speaker 1: just talking. We're just talking about pits, the tight end
Speaker 1: from Florida, and you know every ever we've all heard
Speaker 1: enough positive information. Is there a safety in the NFL
Speaker 1: that can cover them? Or how would you how would
Speaker 1: you fit this guy into your defensive game plan, something
Speaker 1: would be extremely tough. I mean, that is a huge
Speaker 1: matchup advantage. You know you're gonna need someone what's coverage
Speaker 1: traits who can roll down from and play over the
Speaker 1: slot or flex out wide with him. You know, someone
Speaker 1: like a makeup fits bator comes to mind. But you
Speaker 1: gonna need a high level talent to match up to him.
Speaker 1: And when I look at Kyle Pitts, I look at
Speaker 1: him as a movable piece in your office. Yes, we
Speaker 1: know we can play the tight end position and works
Speaker 1: to middle of the field, But how I would utilize
Speaker 1: in guys is almost like a wide receiver. He has
Speaker 1: wide receiver traits. At six foot six, two hundred forty
Speaker 1: six pounds, with four or four speed, he can be
Speaker 1: your backside X receiver and three by one sets. You
Speaker 1: can put him in the slot and he can separate
Speaker 1: birthly on those third level throws. And more importantly, I
Speaker 1: think when you get into the red zone, especially the
Speaker 1: low red zone I call that the ten yard line,
Speaker 1: an end that creates a lot of matchup issues for
Speaker 1: your defense because everyone wants to play man coverage in
Speaker 1: that area of the field. Everyone wants to challenge receivers
Speaker 1: at the line of skimmers. Well, you have to have
Speaker 1: someone the can matchups to the fade and all the
Speaker 1: endbreakers they're running today's NFL. And that's why I think
Speaker 1: he is going to be a top ten pick and
Speaker 1: maybe even a top five pick because of that matchup
Speaker 1: ability in the traits he brings to the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't go as early as four with Atlanta. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens there with that Atlanta pick. Always good
Speaker 1: to talk to you, Matt. In terms of the top
Speaker 1: dbs coming out, I mean, I love JC Horn the
Speaker 1: South Carolina Obviously, these guys they got bloodlines to the
Speaker 1: NFL and Patricks or Tan out of Alabama. But I
Speaker 1: mean because it looks like with the quarterbacks going, then
Speaker 1: you've got some skill position players with those receivers, and
Speaker 1: then it will start to get into defense. So whether
Speaker 1: it's the cornerbacks or ten or JC Horn or even
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons from ten State, you know, who do you
Speaker 1: think potentially would be the first defensive player off the board.
Speaker 1: That's a great question, Jim and I you know, I
Speaker 1: think it would be at the cornerback position. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be ten, and that's would be my bet because
Speaker 1: he's a prototype for the position right now. And look, everyone,
Speaker 1: even zone heavy teams like we just talked about, there
Speaker 1: are certain situations you want to play man. Everyone wants
Speaker 1: to play man, but you need the guys who can
Speaker 1: do it and with certain you know six two, two
Speaker 1: oh eight, he's got explosive traits. He can play press covers.
Speaker 1: What I love about him is how he's coach at
Speaker 1: Alabama because he's a complete players the position. You know,
Speaker 1: he brings a physical play style. I think he's a
Speaker 1: tone setter at the cornerback position and he's in a
Speaker 1: set an edge in the run game. If I'm a
Speaker 1: secondary coach, I want that. I mean I really want
Speaker 1: that in the room because I can play press man.
Speaker 1: I can play cover two with him. We know he
Speaker 1: can play cover three, but I know when that ball
Speaker 1: bounces outside, he didn't go and make a play, And
Speaker 1: I think that brings energy to your secondary. You need
Speaker 1: to put that stuff on tape for other teams to
Speaker 1: see in the league. But it ultimately comes down to
Speaker 1: the coverage traits, and I think they're high end, just
Speaker 1: like jac Horne. Jim, he brought up Jac Horne, another
Speaker 1: press man corner. He's got length, he's physical, ultra competitive
Speaker 1: in coverage, and you can win with that. In an
Speaker 1: NFL secondary Matt Board, our guest here at Bears All
Speaker 1: Access were brought to you by IGS Energy. Matt working
Speaker 1: for ESPN does a tremendous job breaking down tape and
Speaker 1: explaining the game of football to each and every one
Speaker 1: of us, from the diehards to the average fan, because
Speaker 1: we're putting you in a scouts mode as I am
Speaker 1: with Jim and Tom for that matter. What's been complicating
Speaker 1: your process this year? Because certainly there are challenges. We
Speaker 1: had the combine last year. We had Pro days last year.
Speaker 1: This year we did not. The Pro days were generally
Speaker 1: very different and you only saw X number of players
Speaker 1: as you're looking obviously because the first and second days
Speaker 1: of your responsibilities and all of ours are about the
Speaker 1: big names that the top sixty four players in our minds,
Speaker 1: but then the rest of it is also analyzed. So
Speaker 1: has that been challenging for you? I think in certain
Speaker 1: positions are because you know, you do want the testing numbers, right,
Speaker 1: Everyone wants the testing numbers because that's comparable date. That's
Speaker 1: what it did. I mean, it's historical data to look
Speaker 1: back at those specific positions, and I think there are
Speaker 1: still a couple of stop watch positions. You know, it's
Speaker 1: mainly wide receiver in corner, you know, as the safety.
Speaker 1: If you have a safety, it runs the four to
Speaker 1: six and plays at a four or five clip on
Speaker 1: tape to fine. You know, that's perfectly fine. But at
Speaker 1: a quarterback position, you're looking for that long speed, that
Speaker 1: recovery speed, and obviously a wide receiver, especially in today's
Speaker 1: NFL with the passing game howadays, he's looking for guys
Speaker 1: that can stretch the field and run after the catch,
Speaker 1: and not having those numbers from India is a little tougher.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting Pro Day in numbers because the guys
Speaker 1: have seen these numbers are blazing fast. The blazing fast.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I ran much faster in my
Speaker 1: pro day Jeff. And the reason why there was a
Speaker 1: tornado off I eighty in the summer and we had
Speaker 1: a bubble and it blew the bubble away, okay, so
Speaker 1: that it was old as the term, so it sat
Speaker 1: in the sun all summer. That was the fastest track
Speaker 1: I've ever run out of my life. So of course
Speaker 1: I ran faster at home that I did in Indie.
Speaker 1: So you always have to look at PROTA times and
Speaker 1: understand that they're not gonna be the same as they
Speaker 1: are an indie. But really, this year, guys just about
Speaker 1: washing tap. That's what it has to be. It has
Speaker 1: to be about washingtape. That's what I do ESPN is
Speaker 1: this is all going to be based on tape evaluation.
Speaker 1: So not having those numbers, what I do think it
Speaker 1: forces you to do is study players more and try
Speaker 1: to get a feel for what type of game speed
Speaker 1: or play speed they have. Hey, Matt, when you let's
Speaker 1: look back to the Super Bowl for a minute, because
Speaker 1: I'm really enamored with what Todd Bowles did against the
Speaker 1: Kansas City offense. So do you think when you're evaluating players,
Speaker 1: whether on the offensive side of the ball, mostly on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Now defensive coaches have
Speaker 1: in mind that type of effort that they put forth
Speaker 1: against one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to change the philosophical thinking
Speaker 1: about the type of athletes they want to have on
Speaker 1: defense Because the defense was in control of that offense.
Speaker 1: That offense was never in control of Todd Bowles's defense.
Speaker 1: I agree, Tom, and I think it's a great point
Speaker 1: because I think everyone in the league, I say, looks
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl champion says what do they do?
Speaker 1: What do they do from a roster construction standpoint, and
Speaker 1: what type of players are they putting in their system.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we're doing our Matchup draft shows.
Speaker 1: We look at the Super Bowl champions say, Okay, that
Speaker 1: is gonna really create a path in terms of how
Speaker 1: people draft this April. And I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: What I believe you get from that football game. One
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Town who have versatile trades. Okay, can a
Speaker 1: line up in different techniques, whether it's a no is,
Speaker 1: a three technique, a five, or outside defensive end, multiple fronts,
Speaker 1: And we did on the Matchup Show all last year.
Speaker 1: There's so many more multiple fronts than today's league because
Speaker 1: you're trying to scheme one on one. You're trying to
Speaker 1: occupy guarder tackle, a lot of twists and loops, slants
Speaker 1: and stunts inside and then the second level speed. I
Speaker 1: think that's so important. With Devin White and Lavonte Dave
Speaker 1: in that Tampa defense, the linebackers who can get sideline.
Speaker 1: The sideline can cut off the edge and the run
Speaker 1: game and have that pursuit speed. Also can drop back
Speaker 1: in the coverage underneath, and then the secondary. I think
Speaker 1: this where the NFL is going. It's going more split
Speaker 1: safety heavy, like we see here in Chicago with the Bears,
Speaker 1: a lot of quarters, cover two, cover six, which is quarter,
Speaker 1: quarter and then a half because I think one that
Speaker 1: allows you to have defensive backs on top of vertical
Speaker 1: routes down the field and also allows you to cut
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. You take those safeties like
Speaker 1: we've seen so many times with Eddie Jackson and cut
Speaker 1: those inbreakers and crossers. So what you're trying to do
Speaker 1: there obviously pressure the quarterback that has never changed, but
Speaker 1: obviously in the secondary is closed that middle of the
Speaker 1: field and limit explosive places. You're gonna beat Kansas City,
Speaker 1: You're gonna give up someplace throughout the game. I think
Speaker 1: that's how defensive coordinators have to think now, as we're
Speaker 1: not going to completely limit an offense, but can we
Speaker 1: limit the big plays down the field. And I think
Speaker 1: that's why you're cmore split safety coverage. My next one
Speaker 1: is going right to the quarterbacks. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much work you've done on Trey Lance. I'm struggling with
Speaker 1: this player from North Dakota State because you know, the
Speaker 1: most he's thrown a ball in a game is basically
Speaker 1: about twenty times. We know he's only got nineteen starts,
Speaker 1: certainly runs a lot, it's very athletic. Watched his protas.
Speaker 1: Believe you can drive the ball and all that. But
Speaker 1: you want to what Matt like you said about watching tape.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him in a two minute drill, you know.
Speaker 1: I've never seen him lineup shotgun and make every throw
Speaker 1: you need to make with no timeouts and drive a
Speaker 1: team eighty yards because they basically North Dakota State has
Speaker 1: dominated everybody. I do believe he's draft worthy of man,
Speaker 1: there are some rosspots to this player that I'm struggling with. Well,
Speaker 1: I think what you're getting at their gym, and I
Speaker 1: agree with you, is that lack of reps to seventeen
Speaker 1: career college games, all versus FCS competition. As well. I
Speaker 1: did write a report on him. One thing I wrote
Speaker 1: in their gym was limited game reps versus FCS level competition.
Speaker 1: Didn't see consistent NFL situations like you're talking about right,
Speaker 1: You didn't see consistent NFL situations, whether it's the pocket
Speaker 1: he's thrown from or specific game situations. I think with
Speaker 1: someone like Trey Lance, you have to really project the
Speaker 1: traits in draft the traits and bet on those trains.
Speaker 1: And this is you know, not as similar. But I
Speaker 1: made this mistake last year with Justin Herbert. As I
Speaker 1: watched the film Jim, I said, I had some concerns
Speaker 1: in the film. I concerned about the offensive structure and
Speaker 1: organ would it translate to the NFL. But in terms
Speaker 1: of the traits Justin Justin Herbert, you know the physical tools,
Speaker 1: the physical traits, the arm talent, the ability to move,
Speaker 1: and now you put them in a scheme to pro offense.
Speaker 1: And we saw what happened during his rookie season. So
Speaker 1: I think with Trey Lance, maybe not an immediate starter
Speaker 1: in his rookie season, But again you're projecting out and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: we take this player who has the high level traits
Speaker 1: and put them in our system and develop them. Then
Speaker 1: we have a future starter that can win a lot
Speaker 1: of games for US. Matt Bow and our guest here
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Speaker 1: couple more for you if you got some time at
Speaker 1: so if you were looking at the entire quarterback class,
Speaker 1: no matter the round, and if the Bears are inclined
Speaker 1: to do that and draft a quarterback with their available picks,
Speaker 1: what would be your recommendation, our suggestion based on the
Speaker 1: tape you've seen of this class that would fit what
Speaker 1: they want to do? Right? Well, I think you know,
Speaker 1: drafting at number twenty unless you make a major move,
Speaker 1: which we never know. Guys could happen to move up
Speaker 1: if someone slides out of that top ten because that's
Speaker 1: sometimes how the draft works, and the Bears have to
Speaker 1: move up and get him. Let's say they don't. Let's
Speaker 1: say that all five of these quarterbacks go in the
Speaker 1: top ten, top twelve area, and the Bears are probably
Speaker 1: looking at Day two of the draft, right, That's what
Speaker 1: I would expect. You know, when the player I liked,
Speaker 1: there's Davis Mills from Stanford. You know Davis Mills, the
Speaker 1: former five star recruit, and he has traits and I've
Speaker 1: said this beform. People say, well, high school rankings don't matter,
Speaker 1: I understand it, but the trades do. And if you're
Speaker 1: granted as the five star recruiters being done for a reason. Now,
Speaker 1: he's not a high level mover. He's more of a
Speaker 1: pocket thrower. But in terms of his arm talent, that's
Speaker 1: where you see the high level traits you can throw
Speaker 1: with the anticipation location. He has enough arm talent to
Speaker 1: tack all levels of the field. Didn't play a bunch
Speaker 1: of couch I think only as thirteen career starts. But again,
Speaker 1: you're drafting out, you have Andy Dalton as your schedules
Speaker 1: this year. You're drafting projecting for the future. But I
Speaker 1: do think the Bears have to look at the quarterback
Speaker 1: in this trap because if you don't, then we're getting
Speaker 1: into a situation when you're living year to year at
Speaker 1: that position. I don't think it stuff to develop a
Speaker 1: team and stuff to develop a consistent winner when they're
Speaker 1: living year to year. You want to have somebody can
Speaker 1: develop under your coaching, your coaching staff, your infrastructure within
Speaker 1: the building that you believe you can maximize those traits.
Speaker 1: And again, like I said, with David S. Mills, not
Speaker 1: an elite mover, but Canny run boot. Of course he
Speaker 1: can't Canny learns and navigate a pro pockets. Sure he
Speaker 1: can with represent coaching, but what you can't coach is
Speaker 1: the armed him. You just can't coach. Those are uncoachable trade.
Speaker 1: So that's one player I look at if the Bears
Speaker 1: go quarterback in the day two and I think that's
Speaker 1: the range for David S. Mills. But that would be
Speaker 1: my pick. Hey man, if the Bears brought in a
Speaker 1: new safety too, they need a starting safety. What has
Speaker 1: to happen going down the road for Eddie Jackson and
Speaker 1: is he is he in the position that he's going
Speaker 1: to play throughout his career or can they bring in
Speaker 1: a safety that has quality traits If they have to
Speaker 1: move Eddie Jackson around even though a new defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Shaw decide. But they also have help and advice from
Speaker 1: Mike Patton. Yeah, I think bringing in Mike Petton is important.
Speaker 1: I really agree with that, you know, getting another voice
Speaker 1: in there and experienced voice in there to a young
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Everyone needs help. We all understand that when
Speaker 1: you're starting off at a new position and running entire defense.
Speaker 1: But look, Eddie Jackson has proven before he can make
Speaker 1: plays in the football. He has dynamic playmaking ability, dynamic traits,
Speaker 1: ball skills. There's no question about that. So if I'm
Speaker 1: a coach in that situation, I have to find out
Speaker 1: what allows him to get back to that level. Is
Speaker 1: it a way he's coached, is it a certain coverage
Speaker 1: he likes to play in certain game situations. I would
Speaker 1: sit down with Eddie and say, okay, tell me, let's
Speaker 1: go back to twenty eighteen. Let's watch that film again,
Speaker 1: and you tell me why you made all these plays.
Speaker 1: What were you seeing with your eyes? Why were you
Speaker 1: aggressive here? Why did you take this angle? I would
Speaker 1: go through all those big plays with him and say, okay,
Speaker 1: how can we recreate that in our defense? But I
Speaker 1: do think the Bears opposite Eddie needn't answer that. There's
Speaker 1: no question about that. As you want any to play back,
Speaker 1: you know, back from the line of scrimmage, you want
Speaker 1: any to have that forward I use the term forward ability. Guys,
Speaker 1: when you're playing split safety coverage. That's Eddie's ability to
Speaker 1: drive extremely quick on the football and use his eyes
Speaker 1: and make plays. That's that forward ability. We know Eddie
Speaker 1: also has range and not then being split safety all
Speaker 1: the time, but the being single high cars, so you
Speaker 1: need that safety opposite Eddie that also brings a physical
Speaker 1: element to the box. Someone who will tackle in the
Speaker 1: run game, so I will cut off the ball the
Speaker 1: run games. Something that can master the tight ends underneath,
Speaker 1: so you have your playmaker over the top of the defense.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams use that rock and roll. We're
Speaker 1: both got to be interchangeable up in there. And you know,
Speaker 1: I really like to Sean Gibson last year. He's hasn't
Speaker 1: been resigned by the Bears. But maybe some safeties that
Speaker 1: stick out in your mind. I know Richie Grant, I
Speaker 1: kind of fell in love with the UCF safety down
Speaker 1: in Mobile with what he showed. But maybe some of
Speaker 1: your safeties that you really like him as a draft
Speaker 1: approaches your bat Jim, I agree about Richie and Richie
Speaker 1: Graham is a former two star recruit, does not have
Speaker 1: high level trade. So he's a football player. I mean,
Speaker 1: you saw John the Senior Bowl. You can see it
Speaker 1: on tape. He can play as a split safety, he
Speaker 1: can bring that physical elements the run game. He's got
Speaker 1: much better coverage ability than I expected. When you're talking
Speaker 1: about safety coverage ability, the ability to cover down. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're bringing pressure, you're playing number three to trips.
Speaker 1: Very patient with his footwork, keeps his shoulders squares, got
Speaker 1: some short area speed to close in the football. I'm
Speaker 1: very impressive with Richie Grant. Jamar Johnson from in the End.
Speaker 1: I watched his tape last week and obviously Indiana had
Speaker 1: a great season. Jamar Johnson is ideal for the Bears
Speaker 1: defense in terms of schematic fit because he plays for words,
Speaker 1: he plays a dpack. He's got the ability to play
Speaker 1: underneath as well, and I think you need to have
Speaker 1: that ability. And you know in your base and your
Speaker 1: sub package, who's to have that safety is your overhang
Speaker 1: defender and drops the curl match the inside verticals. Another
Speaker 1: name mentioned Andre Cisco from Syracuse. It was coming off
Speaker 1: an injury, but Andre Cisco at thirteen interceptions and basically
Speaker 1: two college seasons, that's a ton. That is a ton
Speaker 1: and anyone who's played defense and those those things don't
Speaker 1: just fall from the sky. I wish they did. I
Speaker 1: mean I would have him a lot more, but you know,
Speaker 1: they don't just fall from the sky, so you have
Speaker 1: to create those. He's got excellent rains ball skills, got
Speaker 1: an NFL frame and those are three safeties in terms
Speaker 1: of schematics hit with the Bears that I would look
Speaker 1: at Cisco coming off at ACL six feet five and
Speaker 1: a hay five and eight two sixteen could be a
Speaker 1: top one hundred selection. All right, I gotta ask the
Speaker 1: last thing. We'll let you go. Appreciate the time very much,
Speaker 1: so you know, I looked it up. You ran a
Speaker 1: four to five one at the combine. What'd you run
Speaker 1: on your pro day? Well, I told you you have
Speaker 1: because of the turn. At my pro day, I ran
Speaker 1: a four three nine four three. Oh my real better.
Speaker 1: You better be teaching that stuff on Friday night time.
Speaker 1: He's playing Bishop Bishop McNamara on Friday nights. So good luck.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, I really appreciate it, Thank you, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Matt Bowen from ESPN our guest. We'll
Speaker 1: take a breakback with Jim Miller and Tom there after
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Speaker 1: Jim and Tom there with us here on Chicago Sports
Speaker 1: Radio six seventies score. So I think, what now about
Speaker 1: ten teams through the NFLPA taking a stance on next
Speaker 1: week's start to the offseason program, a portion, or, as
Speaker 1: it was described in the release by the NFLPA, majority
Speaker 1: of the Bears locker room choosing to not participate in
Speaker 1: in person voluntary workouts frankly in the name of safety
Speaker 1: during the still this COVID situation as X players, the
Speaker 1: both of you weigh in on that and how you
Speaker 1: feel about what is taking place there, Well, I'd be
Speaker 1: going into work. I don't know how Tom feels. You know,
Speaker 1: some guys are going to be bubble guys where they
Speaker 1: know it's going to be tough to make the team
Speaker 1: every year, and they're gonna want to be a part
Speaker 1: of that participation. Not to mention that if you get hurt,
Speaker 1: you know, it's better to be hurt at the facility
Speaker 1: where you'll be covered by the Bears because you've got
Speaker 1: the whole support system there. And if I'm a player
Speaker 1: who definitely has a workout bonus, I'd be the first
Speaker 1: one on the phone line call on JC Treenter saying
Speaker 1: is the NFLPA gonna cut me my hundred thousand dollar
Speaker 1: bonus check for workouts. I'd like to know that because
Speaker 1: if you don't, I'll be going into work. And JC
Speaker 1: Treder is the NFLPA president, Tommy, I never felt I
Speaker 1: had job security where I could stay away from the facility.
Speaker 1: If the doors were open, I was there, and then
Speaker 1: I would have that same kind of mentality right now.
Speaker 1: When Jim talked about Justin Fields got the big ten
Speaker 1: to play football, I would be one of the guys
Speaker 1: that would want to do things safely, but I would
Speaker 1: want to encourage the improvement of my football team through
Speaker 1: the camaraderie of the weight room and the training staff.
Speaker 1: So I kind of in the same boat Jim is in,
Speaker 1: all right. So the voluntary phase expected to start four
Speaker 1: weeks right now, the league will be virtual and then
Speaker 1: there will be that time when there will be a
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp and some OTAs that also are voluntary.
Speaker 1: But hopefully these guys will get back. I think it
Speaker 1: hurts the young players the most, and I do agree
Speaker 1: with Bruce Arey and said, you know, the advancement of
Speaker 1: young players is a challenging proposition when this goes on, Jim,
Speaker 1: wish you had more time. We're gonna let you go.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. As always, we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Good luck in your draft prep, buddy. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: always going to be with you. Appreciate it. Jim Miller
Speaker 1: back with one more segment with Tom before we wrap
Speaker 1: things up here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. This
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Speaker 1: on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. All right,
Speaker 1: so it's now official in Atlanta, Cordarell Patterson signs with
Speaker 1: them and free agency A really, really good guy. Enjoyed
Speaker 1: him here. But the threat he brought to the table
Speaker 1: on special teams, both as a flyer on kickoff and
Speaker 1: then when you throw in his threat as a kick returner.
Speaker 1: I'll miss that guy on game day, right, you know.
Speaker 1: Through the evaluation of the draft, Jeff, we really rarely
Speaker 1: talk about special team skills. That's kind of a desire
Speaker 1: that the player shows the special teams coordinator that he
Speaker 1: has the willingness to do these types of requirements. In
Speaker 1: Cordarel on kickoff return and a flyer and a punt return,
Speaker 1: that's pure desire. Skill is when you have to have
Speaker 1: the fancy footwork to be a cornerback or the intability
Speaker 1: to see where the holes are going to open up
Speaker 1: as a running back. So when I think of Cordarel,
Speaker 1: I think of a four positioned player that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to have multiple bodies to fit into those places.
Speaker 1: Opportunities for young guys. Now that Bear Special Teams unit.
Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap this up, Tommy, We'll talk to you
Speaker 1: next week. Thanks to Tom and Jim Meller and our
Speaker 1: guest Matt Bow and our producer Julio Rosseo as well,
Speaker 1: along with Jordan tread Up and Dan but really Anthony
Speaker 1: Herron coming up next. We'll talk to you next week
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