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Speaker 1: It's time for Pepsi Giants Extra Point on the WFA

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Speaker 2: Oo Boy, Giants, Pepsi extra Point has brought to you

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Speaker 4: by Pepsi, the official soft drink of the New York Giants. Who, boy,

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Speaker 4: I have never seen two halves of football look that different.

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Speaker 3: John Schmelt, Jonathan Casiaz with you.

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Speaker 4: The Giants come back from twenty one points down, the

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Speaker 4: first time they've made up that type of lead and

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Speaker 4: one a game since nineteen forty nine against the Chicago

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Speaker 4: Cardinals and win here in Glendel, Arizona, thirty one to

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Speaker 4: twenty eight. Welcome to Pepsi Giants Extra Point. John Schmelt,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Caciaez with you and JC. I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 4: do this in a poetic way. I'm gonna open this

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Speaker 4: post game the same way I opened halftime. With every

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Speaker 4: simple question, Jonathan, can see us? Can you explain what

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Speaker 4: we just saw?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: Actually have an answer this time. This was the fight

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Speaker 6: that I was talking about. The guys came out ready

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Speaker 6: to go. The first play of the second half was

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Speaker 6: a deep bomb to your rookie Jalen Hyatt, who has

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Speaker 6: been getting behind defenses all preseason, and that's what he showed.

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Speaker 6: And look, man, it's all about momentum in this league.

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Speaker 6: It's all about momentum. And the Giants grabbed momentum in

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Speaker 6: the second half and never ever relinquished the Yeah, the

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Speaker 6: Cardinals scored again, but it was the Giants game in

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Speaker 6: the second half. And this was the team that I

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Speaker 6: was expecting to show up last week, and it's the

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Speaker 6: team that I was expecting to show up in the

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Speaker 6: first half.

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Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, I'll tell you what it was.

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Speaker 6: It better late than never, reichschmelt because they ended up

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Speaker 6: pulling it out and Daniel Jones had a heck of

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Speaker 6: a second half.

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, Daniel Jones in the second half is going

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Speaker 4: absolutely bananas, playing great football, the offense coming alive. You

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Speaker 4: mentioned at JC the Giants defense did give up that

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Speaker 4: first touchdown, but then they forced put after punt after punt.

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Speaker 3: They stuck with it.

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Speaker 4: And again you talk about complimentary football and the lack

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Speaker 4: thereof early in this year. In the second half, it

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Speaker 4: was the opposite after that first drive by the Carlos

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Speaker 4: for a touchdown. In the second half, the defense locked

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Speaker 4: it down and the offense just continued to score points.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they showed what we thought they were right. We

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Speaker 6: all thought the Giants are going to be improved team

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Speaker 6: this year. We were very disappointed them last year. I

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Speaker 6: mean last game and then also the first half, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 6: what is the team that day Ball and Shane put together?

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Speaker 5: Who are they?

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Speaker 6: Because we haven't seen those guys yet, But they showed

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Speaker 6: up in the second half. Of course, it wasn't a

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Speaker 6: clean second half, you know, the double time out at

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Speaker 6: the end was a little but I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 6: I'll take that little five yard penalty then moving those

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Speaker 6: guys up ten fifteen yards because of another penalty, and look,

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Speaker 6: the Giants showed exactly what I wanted to see Schmeilk.

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Speaker 5: They showed fight.

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Speaker 6: The guys are playing motivated, they were playing inspired, and

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Speaker 6: the defense was fine around making plays for punts. And

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Speaker 6: this is the team that I expected to see last week.

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Speaker 6: I'm just so glad they showed up before this game

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Speaker 6: was over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, again the Giants with a twenty one point come back,

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Speaker 4: they win thirty one to twenty eight. They were down

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Speaker 4: twenty ninhing at the half, they were down twenty eight

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Speaker 4: to seven. In the second half, they come all the

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Speaker 4: way back and they win this game. That game breakdown

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Speaker 4: We'll be back with more on the post game, including

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Speaker 4: Brian dabout the podium when we return after this.

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Speaker 3: Partly to the left.

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Speaker 7: Now motion's out that way, don't have the set takes

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Speaker 3: One enter the end zone and it's part for the

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Speaker 3: touchdown Giants.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Hodgens on the square in and now the Giants

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Speaker 3: Tying it down twenty to nothing in the half.

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Speaker 5: Hodgs with the touchdown patch.

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Speaker 2: And that was tonight's scoring a drive in the game,

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Speaker 2: That was the game tying drive in quarter number four

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Speaker 2: for the New York Giants. And they scored the last

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Speaker 2: four scores of this game for three touchdowns in a

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Speaker 3: Game at twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: We're waiting head coach Brian Dable at the podium and JC,

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Speaker 4: what I like to see is that the ball was

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Speaker 4: spread around too. We had two big plays from Hyatt,

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Speaker 4: Darius Slayton with some plays. We had Saquon Barkley with

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Speaker 4: some plays. This was exactly what we thought it would

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Speaker 4: a bunch of different guys and the defense really couldn't

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones was just finding the open man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: And I wanted to know, I want to know what

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Speaker 6: did Dave Balls say to them at halftime to get

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones, people people been, you know, giving them all

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Speaker 6: the crap because that's what you do for a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: He gets all the blame, you know, if if they

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Speaker 6: you know, people been talking about him, you know, a

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Speaker 6: You know, he's the guy that you know, was fighting

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Speaker 6: And oh my gosh, Schmelky, it sucks to see him

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully we'll get some word from that from downstairs today,

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Speaker 4: but it is a short week. A gets San Francisco

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Speaker 4: and we'll touch that on the injury stuff a little

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Speaker 4: said to each other, Look, we're down twenty points here.

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Speaker 4: to lose anyway. So give the offensive line credit. We

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Speaker 4: dragged them over the coals over the past week. Everyone has.

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Speaker 4: But they did a really nice job protecting their quarterback

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I like the mental coming out of the

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Speaker 6: I've been talking about for the last two years, ever

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Speaker 6: since I've been doing radio with you. I always said,

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Speaker 6: the Giants need to go ahead and take a shot early,

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Speaker 6: and you look how it just opens up the entire offense.

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Speaker 6: And you know, when you throw a ball deep like

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Speaker 6: ball thrown accurately, there's one of three things that can happen. Right,

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Speaker 6: your guy can catch the ball, their guy can catch

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Speaker 6: or something like that, right, And the Giants utilize that,

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Speaker 6: and that I think that was the spart I always say,

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Speaker 6: the momentum of a game, the ebb and flow of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jj, I gotta drop.

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Speaker 4: I apologize Brian Dables and tonium On's you join him downstairs.

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Speaker 3: Keep getting better.

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Speaker 8: Well, what did you say to that?

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Speaker 9: Not a bunch a little bit, but keep that in house.

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Speaker 9: That's certainly not the reason. I mean, execution plays a

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Speaker 9: I don't know anything with injuries.

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Speaker 9: I don't I haven't talked to Ronnie or any of

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Speaker 9: No, we always communicate like that. Yeah, so I always

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Speaker 8: That you had to deal with andrew stuff on the

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Speaker 12: Had, teacher.

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Speaker 11: I don't know, they're all satisfying.

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Speaker 9: You know, every game is different, every game you fight

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Speaker 9: through some adversity. You know, tonight was, you know, a

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Speaker 9: better in the second half, and you know, you hope

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Speaker 9: You know, we didn't do enough job, good enough job

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I know, something we talked about coming out.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure I can't give you an evaluation of him.

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Speaker 11: We just thought it was.

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Speaker 9: The right thing to do, knowing that we play game

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Speaker 11: We made it hard. I'll tell you that made it hard.

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Speaker 8: And maybe a little extra.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, just you know, belief. But you can talk about

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Speaker 9: You have to see tangible results too, so uh, and

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Speaker 11: Thanks, thanks, guys.

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what the Giants did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Giants a twenty one point comeback victory. They topped

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Speaker 7: Jaln's out of play fame deep shot looking for Hyatt

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Speaker 6: They're out of Tennessee with the big ball down the middle.

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Speaker 4: That was today's play of the game, presented by your

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Speaker 4: truck of the New York Giants and JC. I picked

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Speaker 4: twenty plus yards. Well, they did that in the second

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Speaker 4: half of this game, and if they weren't able to,

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Speaker 4: they would not have come back and gotten this win.

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Speaker 4: So this to me, as great as it is as

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Speaker 4: an individual victory, I think it also brings us back

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Speaker 4: to some of the offseason goals for this team. And

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Speaker 4: you say, all right, at least for this half of football,

447
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Speaker 4: that mission was accomplished.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that was the play. That

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Speaker 6: is the play the game. That's the start of the

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Speaker 6: Giants comeback. The Giants scored thirty one points in one half.

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Speaker 6: When was the last time the Giants did that, whether

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Speaker 6: it was the first half or second half, or second

453
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Speaker 6: and third quarters or whatever the case is, you know,

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Speaker 6: And the Giants put together a beautiful showing in the

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Speaker 6: second half. And like I said, that was the start

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Speaker 6: of the first punch. That was the first punch that

457
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Speaker 6: was thrown back to the Arizona Cardinals for the fight

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Speaker 6: that ensued for the rest of the game, you know.

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Speaker 6: And like I keep saying this over and over again,

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Speaker 6: schmelt because I believe when I played, it's about a

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Speaker 6: fight and who wins the fight.

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Speaker 5: It's about the ebb and flow of a fight.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you got punches thrown, you're bobbing and weaving, but

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Speaker 6: you don't get knocked out. The Giants got knocked out

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Speaker 6: last week and looked like the Giants were knocked out

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Speaker 6: in the first half of the first game this game,

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Speaker 6: and then the second half they threw that first punch

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Speaker 6: that strike the hiot and then another punch with Daniel

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Speaker 6: Jones running into the end zone. And like I said, now,

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Speaker 6: the defensive guys are stepping up, they're making plays, they're

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Speaker 6: getting tackle for losses, they're making you know, they're getting

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Speaker 6: them out on third down, they're making them make mistakes.

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Speaker 6: The Giants fans showed up in Arizona. That's the thing, smelt.

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Speaker 6: The Giants fans travel very well. They're in New York,

475
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Speaker 6: New Jersey, people all over the country and they just

476
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Speaker 6: need to see a good product out there so they

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Speaker 6: can have some cheers. And they were very effective. They

478
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Speaker 6: caused two false starts on one drive late in this game.

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Speaker 6: And you can definitely believe that the Giants fans at

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Speaker 6: home will be happy to embrace this team that they

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Speaker 6: saw in the second half.

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Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 4: They were quiet in the first half for obvious reasons

484
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Speaker 4: because they were seeing a team that was losing by

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Speaker 4: a lot of points in this game. But you know,

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Speaker 4: once the team started playing well, they got loud, and

487
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Speaker 4: you're right, they certainly impacted the Cardinals in the second half.

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Speaker 4: And then the same type of mistakes the Giants were

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Speaker 4: making it half number one with some of those self

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Speaker 4: inflicted wounds. That was the Cardinals and half number two

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Speaker 4: that were making those types of plays. And again one

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Speaker 4: of the reasons was certainly the crowd and how they

493
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Speaker 4: got into the game and it made it difficult for

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Speaker 4: that Cardinals offense to operate late in this game. Well,

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Speaker 4: Dan Jones was the architect of this comeback. He played

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Speaker 4: one of his best halves as a Giant. He finished

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Speaker 4: twenty six to thirty seven for three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: one yards two touchdowns. He did have one interception, though

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Speaker 4: not on him, that right off Saquon Barkley Sands went

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Speaker 4: right to the defender. That one was not Daniel Jones's fault.

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Speaker 4: So Ario Bob Papa had a chance to catch up

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Speaker 4: with Daniel Jones in the locker room after the game.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen in.

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Speaker 7: John by Giants quarterback Daniel Jones after this incredible comeback. Daniel,

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Speaker 7: what was different in the second half for you guys offensively?

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Speaker 14: I think we just executed executed better. You know, we

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Speaker 14: had some opportunities in the first half to make some

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Speaker 14: big plays and we didn't convert. And you know, I

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Speaker 14: didn't take advantage of some of those opportunities and give

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Speaker 14: guys a chance to make plays. So we came out

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Speaker 14: in the second half and found a way to do

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Speaker 14: that and executed better and built off of that.

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Speaker 7: Couple vertical routes to Jalen Hyatt hit Slayton on a

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Speaker 7: twenty nine yard or late. Were those things that kind

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Speaker 7: of helped loosen things up a little bit.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think those were big to kind of get

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Speaker 14: some momentum, and then we just kind of kind of

518
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Speaker 14: built on that on that going forward and big time

519
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Speaker 14: plays by by those guys, and then you know, really

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Speaker 14: the whole group.

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Speaker 7: You know, the touchdown pass the Saquon Barkley obviously was huge,

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Speaker 7: and then on the past the Hodgens, you guys got

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Speaker 7: to call for a fall start to getting a little

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Speaker 7: extra room almost help you guys function a little bit

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Speaker 7: better in that space.

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Speaker 14: Uh, I mean, it definitely changed the play call kind

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Speaker 14: of from where we where we were kind of the

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Speaker 14: way the play would work out necessarily, but uh, you know,

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Speaker 14: you're not looking, I'm not looking to push yourself back

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Speaker 14: in those situations. But great catch by Isaiah on that

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Speaker 14: one and a big time play.

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Speaker 7: Was it say about this team to come back from

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Speaker 7: a twenty one nothing halftime twenty to nothing halftime deficit?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean we fought.

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Speaker 14: We were able to to kind of keep our heads,

537
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Speaker 14: stay level headed, understand that that there were plays out

538
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Speaker 14: there for us to make and we just needed to

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Speaker 14: convert those opportunities. So it says a lot about the

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Speaker 14: the kind of mental toughness, the resiliency of this team.

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Speaker 14: And you know, no one batter at I, no one, uh,

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Speaker 14: you know kind of got outside the plan and outside

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Speaker 14: of what we were trying to do. We kind of

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Speaker 14: trusted it and up going and we're able to make

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Speaker 14: some big plays and turn it around.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Danny.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: That twenty one point come back, according to Elias, would

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Speaker 4: be the Giants' largest comeback win, tied with two other games.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned one October thirtieth, nineteen forty nine, when the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals played in Chicago that was also a twenty one

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Speaker 4: point come back. And then go back four more years

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Speaker 4: to December second, nineteen forty five, when the Giants made

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Speaker 4: up a twenty one point deficit to beat the Philadelphia

555
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Speaker 4: Eagles and JC. What do you take out of Daniel's

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Speaker 4: words to Bob in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: I mean, look, you know he painted a clear picture.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Giants played well and they did what

559
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Speaker 6: they were supposed to do in the second half. You know.

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Speaker 6: That's something you know, we expect from a guy like

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones. You know, he puts the team on his back.

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Speaker 6: I think he takes full blame, you know, when when

563
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Speaker 6: the game possibly is not his responsibility. But at the

564
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Speaker 6: end of the day, he feels that he is the

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Speaker 6: leader of this team. And he played like that in

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Speaker 6: the second half, you know. And I'm looking at these

567
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Speaker 6: numbers right now, man, and man, I remember looking at

568
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Speaker 6: the numbers in the first half and they just worried

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Speaker 6: compared to this. You know, the guy went for three

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Speaker 6: touchdowns and he threw for what two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 6: yards in two quarters, you know. And look, I'm not

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Speaker 6: saying that he can do that for four quarters every

573
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Speaker 6: single game. I mean, but that's the potential. Daniel Jones

574
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Speaker 6: has always showed he has the potential. And I think

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Speaker 6: it was just they just needed to spark, man, They

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Speaker 6: needed something to get them going, and literally they didn't

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Speaker 6: have that for six quarters to start this season against

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Speaker 6: a very talented Dallas team and then a team in

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Speaker 6: Arizona who we all think that the Giant should have beat,

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Speaker 6: you know, and I think the second half was indicative

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Speaker 6: of what we're gonna see moving forward. And of course

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Speaker 6: they got a fast turnaround next week against a very

583
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Speaker 6: talented San Francisco forty nine er teams, so I'm expecting

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Speaker 6: them to be some turnover, you know, some rollover from

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Speaker 6: some carryover from this game to next game, and used

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Speaker 6: that momentum that they got right now.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Daniel Jones also ran for fifty nine

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Speaker 4: yards on done and nine carries, including a touchdown. His

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Speaker 4: legs were once again critical to this victory.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. See, the thing is about Daniel Jones. It's not

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Speaker 6: about the design quarterback runs that they have for him.

593
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Speaker 6: It's about he had decision making when he decides to

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Speaker 6: check the ball down and run or when he decides

595
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Speaker 6: to pull the ball out and run. And that's what

596
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: he did flawlessly in the second half, you know, just

597
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 6: getting out of way of you know, some rushes stepping

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Speaker 6: up in the pocket, that run on the sideline where

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Speaker 6: he looked like he was going on the bounds and

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Speaker 6: then he stayed in bounds Like that's the Daniel Jones

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Speaker 6: I know that I've seen for seventeen games last year,

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Speaker 6: and we saw for a second half today.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, the growth in this second half

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Speaker 4: JC with the passes down the field, the runs, putting

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Speaker 4: all that together, that's what the Giants coaching staff in

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Speaker 4: front office envision when they decided to give him that

607
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Speaker 4: big contract in the offseason. They thought, with better weapons,

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Speaker 4: that's the type of explosive offense they could put together.

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Speaker 4: And again all the caveats, the first half it was

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Speaker 4: beyond bad. The second half it was beyond great. They're

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Speaker 4: probably not as well. We know they're not as bad

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Speaker 4: as they were in the first half. They're probably not

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Speaker 4: as great as they were in the second half. It's

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Speaker 4: probably for over the course of an entire season somewhere

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Speaker 4: in between, right, But to have that type of firepower,

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Speaker 4: I don't think we saw the Giants overall in terms

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Speaker 4: of a passing offense, except for maybe one of the

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Speaker 4: games against Minnesota late in the year, had a half

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Speaker 4: of football with that type of firepower throwing the ball,

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Speaker 4: and that's what I think the Giants tried to put together.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's why you draft jail and Highed

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Speaker 6: in the third round possibly could have been the first

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Speaker 6: round pick, while you bring in Darren Waller, while you

624
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Speaker 6: bring in Paris Campbell with that speed on the outside,

625
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Speaker 6: and yes, Paris Campbell didn't really have any players downfield,

626
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Speaker 6: but the potential is there, and now that you see

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Speaker 6: what the Giants can actually do, it makes me feel

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Speaker 6: a little bit more comfortable Schmelk because I'm sitting here

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Speaker 6: thinking all first half of like, what are we going

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Speaker 6: to talk about after this game? Because last game it

631
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Speaker 6: was like, okay, we just throw out the stats because

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Speaker 6: none of those stats made sense, you know. But when

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Speaker 6: I look at this game and there was still a

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Speaker 6: lot of mistakes in the second half, I'm very nervous

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Speaker 6: about the amount of penalties, not just post snap in

636
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Speaker 6: the action penalties, but pre snap penalties. Twelve men on

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Speaker 6: the field at one time. I think they called the

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Speaker 6: time out because they had ten men on the field,

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Speaker 6: you know, false starts like those things. They need to

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00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: get corrected because if they don't get corrected, I don't

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Speaker 6: care how the Giants play next week. If they're making

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Speaker 6: plays and they're explosive, the penalties will hurt you. Against

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Speaker 6: a championship quality team, caliber team like the San Francisco

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Speaker 6: forty nine.

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Speaker 4: Ers, well have more sound from the locker room. The

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Speaker 4: player locker Room Report is brought to you by MetLife,

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Speaker 3: That and more.

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Speaker 4: As we continue, the Giants with a huge twenty one

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Speaker 4: point comeback victory and half number two they defeat the

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Speaker 4: Arizona card Those thirty one to twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Let's open up the phones. We want to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I imagine there's some happy Giant fans out there. Tell us

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Speaker 2: why you're happy. Talk some Giants football with us on

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Speaker 2: the lines eight seven to seven, three three seven sixty

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Speaker 2: six sixty six.

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Speaker 3: Get on the line. We'll take your calls when we

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 4: We're back here on Pepsi Giants Extra Point, John Shmelt, John,

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Speaker 4: they can see us. The Giants with a monumental comeback.

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Speaker 4: They trailed by twenty one points in the second half.

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Speaker 4: They come back and win forty one to thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: At halftime, these were disgusting. At the end of the game,

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Speaker 4: they look fantastic. So when all was said and done,

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Speaker 4: after being outgained by nearly two hundred yards in the

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Speaker 4: first half, the Giants finished the game out gaining the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals by sixty yards four thirty nine to three seventy nine.

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Speaker 4: Giants finished the game with twenty six first downs. Their

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Speaker 4: third down efficiency is brian. They would mention it as

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Speaker 4: press conference was excellent. Seven of twelve on third downs.

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Speaker 4: They were one of one on fourth downs. I thought

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Speaker 4: they used that push quarterback sneak extremely well in those

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Speaker 4: short yarded situations if very difficult play to stop. The

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Speaker 4: Giants used that well twice over the course of this game.

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Speaker 4: To be efficient in the red zone. The Giants score touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: and if they didn't score touchdowns, they winn have come out,

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Speaker 4: come back and won this game. You have to take

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Speaker 4: advantage of all your opportunities when you put yourself down

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Speaker 4: by that many points, and the Giants managed to do

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Speaker 4: that very efficient with their situational football in this game.

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Speaker 4: In terms of individual players through the air, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: I mentioned it before, twenty six to thirty seven, three

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one yards, two touchdowns, an interception, and

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Speaker 4: he spread the ball around. You had four players with

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Speaker 4: four catchers or more, five with three catchers or more,

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Speaker 4: and that doesn't even include Jalen Hyatt who just had

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Speaker 4: two catches. But they went for eighty nine yards which

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Speaker 4: led the team, including a long of fifty eight that

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Speaker 4: really sparked this offense. At half number two, Darren Waller

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Speaker 4: and Sakon Barkley both had six catches, Waller seventy six yards,

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Speaker 4: Barkley had twenty nine four catches for Isaiah Hodgins for

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Speaker 4: forty yards, Paris Campbell four for twenty one, Darius Slayton

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Speaker 4: three for sixty two and receiving touchdowns for Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 4: and Isaiah Hodgins. Barkley really nice play catching the ball

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Speaker 4: in the flat, keeping his feet in turning up field

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Speaker 4: and reaching for that pylon to score the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: For the Giants. On the ground.

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley seventeen rushes sixty three yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones nine rushes fifty nine yards in a score

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Speaker 4: of his own for the Arizona Cardinals. Josh Dobbs finished

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Speaker 4: twenty one to thirty one for two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: eight yards and a score. On the ground. James Connor,

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Speaker 4: this is something the Giants gonna want to clean up.

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Speaker 4: Rush twenty three times for one hundred and six yards

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Speaker 4: and a touchdown. Dobbs added a touchdown run as well.

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Speaker 4: He had forty one yards on the ground in this game.

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Speaker 4: Six catches a piets for zach Ertz and Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 4: fifty six yards for Ears, fifty four for Brown, Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 4: the rookie wide receiver from Stanford, with fifty six receiving

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Speaker 4: yards as well. On defense or both teams. Despite the victory,

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Speaker 4: the Giants still sackless on the year. They did not

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Speaker 4: manage a sack in this game. Cardinals had three sacks,

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Speaker 4: one for Kaizier White and then split between Zamon Collins

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Speaker 4: and Victor Dubakaja, and one sack for gard Deck the

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Speaker 4: Barbarian for Arizona. So that's look at today's stats again,

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Speaker 4: brought to you by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn

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Speaker 4: more at cardinals Appeal dot org. Eight seven seven three

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Speaker 4: three seven sixty six sixty six. All right, folks, let's

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Speaker 4: get to the calls. Let's talk some giants football. Let's

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Speaker 4: start off with Dominic and Albany. Dominic, you're on PEPSI

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Speaker 4: Giants extra point? With Schmilk and Cassius.

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Speaker 3: How are you, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 20: How are you guys?

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Speaker 3: We're great?

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, So I wanted to say that. First of all,

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Speaker 20: I second half, before the half even started, I said,

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Speaker 20: they need to go deep the Hyatt. He's one of

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Speaker 20: the best, he's probably one of the fastest people in

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Speaker 20: the league. And I said, he's been getting behind defenses

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Speaker 20: all preseason. They need to take a shot with him

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Speaker 20: down the field. And they did, and that opened up

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Speaker 20: the whole playbook, the offensive playbooks. I was very happy

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Speaker 20: with that. Second thing is, I'm not sure what's going on,

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Speaker 20: but they need to you know, they haven't been pressuring

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Speaker 20: the quarterback at all, so I'm not sure what's going

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Speaker 20: on with their front four. But you know, Thibodeau has

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Speaker 20: been non existent. Lenard Williams Sexter Lawrence. I'm not sure

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Speaker 20: you know that's you know, it's all starts in the trenches.

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Speaker 20: And their offensive line is bad enough, their defensive line

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Speaker 20: has been you know, equally as that, I believe. So

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Speaker 20: I want to know what you guys think about that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks Tom jac What do you think about

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Speaker 4: the defensive front.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm looking at the stats right now. It's as

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Speaker 6: zero going down that SAT column and Cavon Thibodeau a

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Speaker 6: no show today, and I think he played. I'm pretty

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Speaker 6: sure I saw him starting and playing out there. But

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Speaker 6: Gary Brightwell has a tackle.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't. Daniel Jones actually has a tackle.

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Speaker 4: He had one quarterback hitting the game, and the bank

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Speaker 4: should point out a couple of plays where he did

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Speaker 4: set the edge well, but you're right, no tackles for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know what, he was late on a

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Speaker 6: couple of plays where he was supposed to either you know,

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Speaker 6: make a counter or you know, cover what they cause

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Speaker 6: cover when somebody kind of freestyles and then somebody else

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Speaker 6: kind of covers behind them, and it looked like he

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Speaker 6: was a step slow.

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Speaker 5: And then I saw it.

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Speaker 6: It was a part of the game where he was

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Speaker 6: just sitting on the bench all by himself.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think that saw that from from lpg's Twitter. But

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Speaker 6: like that, that's that could be a big issue, especially

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Speaker 6: because he is such a talented player, you know, and

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Speaker 6: he's a guy that the Giants will rely on in

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Speaker 6: the past disruption game on defense, and he has been

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Speaker 6: basically a no show in the first two weeks, you know.

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Speaker 6: And then I look at Big Dexter Lawrence, you know,

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Speaker 6: I like the way he did show up and he

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Speaker 6: has a tackle for loss, He has some tackles, but

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Speaker 6: I want more from him because he can do more.

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Speaker 6: He is a dominant force to reckon with, and I

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Speaker 6: think he needs to start showing up more because this

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Speaker 6: will help spark this defensive team. And Pennock does such

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Speaker 6: a great job when Wake Martindale calls those run blitzes

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Speaker 6: and basically sends Pinnock off the edge. He got three

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Speaker 6: tackle for losses on that on those calls, and he

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Speaker 6: had thirteen total tackles of that. I think he had

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Speaker 6: a great game. Bobby Ocaka, I think had a great game.

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Speaker 6: Micah McFadden struggled mightily today. He missed a lot of

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Speaker 6: tackles that twenty two yard pass somewhere in the second

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Speaker 6: quarter to Mark heath Brown. That was I believe that

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Speaker 6: was his mental error. And you know, like sometimes smelk

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Speaker 6: and I've been there on defense where you just missed

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Speaker 6: a couple plays early, then all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 6: can't do nothing right after that, it's like you got

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Speaker 6: the yips or whatever. McFadden was in that and I

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Speaker 6: was just hoping that they sat him down for a

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Speaker 6: little bit and probably put Isaiah Simmonson, because whenever he

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Speaker 6: looked like he was in the game, whenever he was

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Speaker 6: in the game, he looked like he looked explosive, He

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Speaker 6: had a couple tackles on the sideline, he looked violent,

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Speaker 6: he looked like he was ready to play Mike, and

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Speaker 6: McFadden looked like he was a little bit too much

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Speaker 6: for him tonight.

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Speaker 4: All right, I want to do one more call before

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Speaker 4: he get the break and go to Gregan's spring Lake

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Speaker 4: who wants to talk about Saquon's impact on the offense

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Speaker 4: and half number two?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Greg?

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Speaker 14: Hey?

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Speaker 18: What's up?

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Speaker 21: Fellas?

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Speaker 12: So great?

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Speaker 18: Game, elated, but I still am just a fuddled as

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Speaker 18: to what the saque injury will.

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Speaker 10: Mean to the team.

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Speaker 18: Obviously we know what we don't know, but clearly he's

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Speaker 18: going to be out. I think that's a pretty safe assumption.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right now.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Greg, Greg, I don't mean to drug Jesus.

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Speaker 4: The fans understands that might have joined this late. He

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Speaker 4: did so far would look like some type of leg

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Speaker 4: injury late in the game. We don't have any details

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Speaker 4: right now as to the nature of the injury, how

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Speaker 4: long he might be out.

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Speaker 3: But he was limping on the sidelines. That's pretty much

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Speaker 3: all we got. Go ahead.

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Speaker 18: Oh, I know, I watched it live, so I did not.

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Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, no, no, no, no, I understand you.

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying for people that maybe didn't know about it,

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Speaker 4: I was just playing for our listeners or maybe didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead. I'm sorry exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So see, I'm just curious, like I don't know enough

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Speaker 18: about the depth in the backfield or if they think

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Speaker 18: about making a move on the waiver wire or the

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Speaker 18: free agent market. But curious for you guys, because I

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Speaker 18: don't think you can understate is importance to the offense.

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Speaker 18: I mean, if it was DJ who went out, that's

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Speaker 18: all we'd be talking about. And I think arguably he's

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Speaker 18: more important than DJ Serious for your take.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call, Greg, and you know, Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: The way I look at it is, if a guy

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Speaker 4: goes out and then your first response is, oh, we

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Speaker 4: need to go sign somebody that's a free agent, that

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Speaker 4: means as a front office, you did a poor job

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Speaker 4: of having your backup running back in place. And I

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Speaker 4: don't think this Giants front office did a bad job

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Speaker 4: of having their backup running back in place.

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Speaker 3: I think Matt Braid is a veteran. I think he'll

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Speaker 3: be fine.

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see a lot of Eric Gray,

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Speaker 4: who shows some elusive inness on one of those punt

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Speaker 4: returns today. So I think, again, we don't know if

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Speaker 4: Saqua's gonna play on Thursday. We'll wait and see. He

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Speaker 4: does superhuman stuff sometimes, who knows, we'll have more as

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Speaker 4: Brian Dable, you know, talks to us about the injuries

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Speaker 4: over the next couple of days getting ready for San

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Speaker 4: Fron on Thursday. But yeah, I mean, obviously if he

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Speaker 4: can't go, that is one less weapon that the Niners,

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Speaker 4: very very talented defense has to worry about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, Matt Brida, I think he's He's

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Speaker 6: a terrific backup running back in the NFL, and whenever

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Speaker 6: he does get a carry or a chance to play,

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Speaker 6: I think he actually performs very well. And this is

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Speaker 6: gonna be a chance, you know. I like, no matter

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Speaker 6: what happened to Saquana that he's definitely not playing on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: And of course that's just speculation, guys. I don't have

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Speaker 6: no facts here. I'm just telling you he just got hurt.

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Speaker 6: He's not playing on Thursday. So expect to see like

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Speaker 6: like Schmilk, said Eric Gray. And if anybody knows about

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Speaker 6: Eric Gray and what he did in college, he was

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Speaker 6: a phenomenal running back. Definitely don't have the top end speed,

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Speaker 6: but he can. He can make you miss in a

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Speaker 6: phone booth. He runs hard, he runs behind his pads.

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Speaker 6: And then also Gary Brightwell, I look forward to seeing,

880
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Speaker 6: you know, the all three of those guys on Thursday,

881
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Speaker 6: you know, playing, protecting, you know, and stepping up in

882
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Speaker 6: the absence of a very very good player in Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, we are gonna be taking your calls the

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Speaker 4: rest of the way, so stay on the phones eight

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Speaker 4: Giants football with us when we come back. More phone calls,

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Speaker 1: Right after this, you are listening to Pepsi Giants Extra

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Speaker 4: with a twenty one point come back in quarter number four,

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Speaker 4: they defeat the Cardinals thirty one to twenty eight. Again

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Speaker 4: they trailed by twenty one in that third quarter. They

902
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Speaker 4: make that big comeback, largest comeback since nineteen forty nine.

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Speaker 4: So a very very dramatic win for the New York

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Speaker 4: Football Giants. Paul, did you know? Joins us from downstairs. Paul,

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Speaker 4: very quickly before we get to another call here, I

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Speaker 4: know Saquon Barkley did not talk after the game, but

907
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Speaker 4: you did put eyes on him in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what you saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Barkley came out of the shower, very short walk

910
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Speaker 2: to his locker. He was not on crutches, he was

911
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Speaker 2: not in a brace, He did not have any.

912
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Speaker 3: Apparatus on his legs at all.

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Speaker 2: But clearly you know, he was not feeling great, and

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Speaker 2: so he declined to speak to the media after the game.

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Speaker 2: Where that leaves him going into Thursday's match with San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't have any idea because again, he

917
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Speaker 2: was not he was not available for comment, but certainly

918
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Speaker 2: good to see that he did not have any bunch

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Speaker 2: of medical apparatuses either on him or with him as

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Speaker 2: he made it made his way.

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Speaker 5: That's good to hear, though, That's really good to hear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely so we'll keep an eye on that as

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Speaker 4: we move forward this week. All right, let's get back

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Speaker 4: to the calls at eight seven seven three three seven

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Speaker 4: sixty six sixty six. Guys will be taking your calls

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Speaker 4: for the rest of the way here, So get on

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Speaker 4: the line. Let's go to Stephen Holmdell. He's up next, Steve.

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Speaker 4: What's going on yall with the Tino Schmelk and Casillas.

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Speaker 19: Hey guys, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

931
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Speaker 19: Yeah, I don't think we spent a fifth round draft

932
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Speaker 19: pick on a guy just to set the edge. And

933
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Speaker 19: you know, obviously we've all seen Michael Parsons all over

934
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Speaker 19: the field, and it just seems they're using Tivodo in

935
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Speaker 19: a very very conservative way. He's not disruptive, and I

936
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Speaker 19: just don't see what's going on with him right now.

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Speaker 4: What what is it you don't like about the way

938
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Speaker 4: they're using him, Steve just to get more STU.

939
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Speaker 19: I mean, I mean well, I mean, like you know,

940
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 19: zero sacks in two games. I don't even see him

941
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Speaker 19: near the quarterback and he's not I don't see him

942
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Speaker 19: making any tackles. I don't see him making plays behind

943
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Speaker 19: the line of scrimmage, and I don't see him doing

944
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Speaker 19: much outside. I mean, you know, the fifth round draft,

945
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Speaker 19: I'm just picking the entire draft. That's that's a pass rusher,

946
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Speaker 19: and we've seen nothing from him in the two games.

947
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Speaker 19: I don't know if the team, I don't know if

948
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Speaker 19: it's if it's just the way he's playing, But I

949
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Speaker 19: think it'd be an understatement to say that we've all

950
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Speaker 19: been a little disappointed and so far of what he's

951
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Speaker 19: what he's produced so far in the two games.

952
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Okay, thanks for the call.

953
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, jac I want to have you answer

954
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Speaker 4: this about how they're using him.

955
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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Well, I mean, I got to watch the

956
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Speaker 6: film again, you know, to make sure I see exactly

957
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Speaker 6: where he was at at all times. You know, most

958
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Speaker 6: of the time I've seen him today predominantly on the edge,

959
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Speaker 6: you know, as an edge rusher and an edge setter.

960
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Speaker 6: And you said earlier Carl Banks talked about the times

961
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Speaker 6: that he did set the edge. But you know, I'm

962
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Speaker 6: looking at the numbers right now as a zero across

963
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 6: the board for him, you know, And that's definitely a

964
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Speaker 6: disappointment in somebody that you picked so high, let alone,

965
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Speaker 6: you know, anybody on your defense that plays, you know,

966
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Speaker 6: a lot of snaps out there, you know, so don't

967
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Speaker 6: I think it's unfair to compare him to Michael Parsons,

968
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Speaker 6: you know, but I just want to compare him to himself.

969
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Speaker 6: You know, does he look like the same player he

970
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Speaker 6: was last year or he doesn't, you know, And I

971
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Speaker 6: think last year he some limitations with him being injured

972
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Speaker 6: and also him being his first year, and I definitely

973
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Speaker 6: expected him to play better than he has these first

974
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Speaker 6: two weeks because, you know, drawing a blank across you know,

975
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Speaker 6: all statistical categories, you know, that's that's very hard to

976
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Speaker 6: do Smelk and he and he did that today. And

977
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Speaker 6: for him to be kind of non existent on a

978
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Speaker 6: day like this, you know, I think you know, either

979
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Speaker 6: you know, like he like the call said, either they

980
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 6: got a scheme, maybe something up for him, but they

981
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Speaker 6: gotta get him going because we've seen him at times,

982
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Speaker 6: especially last year. We seen him take over games like

983
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Speaker 6: he did against the Commanders last year, and you know,

984
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Speaker 6: the Giants will need him moving forward if they expect

985
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Speaker 6: to have some type of success on defense.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan, I would add this.

987
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Speaker 2: You know, it seems to me that you know, he

988
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Speaker 2: had flashes of impact plays during the second half of

989
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Speaker 2: last season when he got healthy, and the goal for

990
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Speaker 2: a player of his nature, who has so much ability

991
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Speaker 2: and so much talent, especially when you take him where

992
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Speaker 2: you do, is that he is going to consistently make

993
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Speaker 2: impact plays. He has yet to do that in just

994
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: over one season of his career. That's a very fair statement. However,

995
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 2: it's also fair to say that players don't have any

996
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: control over where they're drafted, and so it's unfair to

997
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: take a guy to task and say, well, you were

998
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Speaker 2: picked at this spot, you have to give this production. Well,

999
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: you can't blame the player for that because he doesn't

1000
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: control where he's taken. Okay, what you can do is

1001
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: say to your organization, you valued the player at this spot.

1002
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: Can he give you the production that should be commensurate

1003
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Speaker 2: with that spot. That's where the question would would have

1004
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: to be asked if you want to ask that, only

1005
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: what are we talking now nineteen games into the guy's career.

1006
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean, could we give him a little more sample

1007
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Speaker 2: sized before we start hopping on him?

1008
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Speaker 19: Now?

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Speaker 3: That's why?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, right, but but Paul, I agree,

1011
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 6: but I second that with I don't care what round

1012
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: you got drafted and undrafted. I was undrafted, but he

1013
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 6: played defense today. He definitely was out there today, So

1014
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 6: it don't matter where he got drafted at. He's a

1015
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 6: starter for the NFL, for an NFL team, the New

1016
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 6: York Football Giants, and he showed up not once at

1017
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Speaker 6: all on the stat sheet today. And I don't care

1018
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Speaker 6: where you're drafted. That is a problem. And he has

1019
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: to be more. He has to contribute more to the game.

1020
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Speaker 6: He showed potential last year. Potential does not cut it.

1021
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 6: He has to show consistency, and as of right now,

1022
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Speaker 6: he hasn't showed it. And I saw a little, you know,

1023
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 6: little glimpse today with him on the sideline by himself,

1024
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 6: sitting on the bench by himself. And I always look

1025
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Speaker 6: at what else I can see outside of the x's

1026
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Speaker 6: and o's, outside of the actual football that's being played,

1027
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Speaker 6: and that speaks volumes I think to k von kevon

1028
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Speaker 6: Thibodeau's production today and possibly moving forward for the year.

1029
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Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan, I think you second my point really because

1030
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Speaker 2: you're you're absolutely right. You have to demand more consistency

1031
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: out of him and more impact plays out of him.

1032
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Speaker 3: We totally agree on this.

1033
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Speaker 2: My my issue comes in where people blame the player

1034
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: for his draft slot, and that's that's he does not

1035
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: have control over his draft slot. Yeah, that that's that's

1036
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: the only that's the only debate that I would throw

1037
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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back

1039
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: with more.

1040
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Speaker 4: Get on the lines, folks eight seven seven three three

1041
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Speaker 4: seven sixty six sixty six Right here on Pepsi Giants

1042
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Speaker 4: Extra Point.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more.

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Speaker 4: Paul Tatino, jannat They can see us with you.

1051
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Speaker 3: All right, guys.

1052
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: We got a couple of days here, and we will

1053
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Speaker 4: get back to your calls folks after this next segment,

1054
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Speaker 4: after we wrap up our network here.

1055
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Speaker 3: Giants take on the forty nine ers in a couple

1056
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Speaker 3: of days.

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Speaker 4: Jac obviously a dramatic win, great play in the second half,

1058
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Speaker 4: but if they want to come out and beat San

1059
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Francisco on Thursday, you can't have a half a football

1060
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: like they did tonight against Arizona because you're not going

1061
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Speaker 4: to have that type of comeback. So, as Brian Dable

1062
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: said in his press conference, there is a lot of

1063
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: stuff you have to clean up.

1064
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: You have to come and play.

1065
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Speaker 4: Your a game like they did in the second half

1066
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Speaker 4: for all four quarters against San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: On Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: If they don't do that, it would be another forty

1070
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Speaker 6: to zero game. They have to play well. This San

1071
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Speaker 6: Francisco forty nine ers team is loaded defensively, brock Perty's

1072
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Speaker 6: playing very well, Brandon Iyuk is a stud and of

1073
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Speaker 6: course Christian McCaffrey, you know, he does what he does.

1074
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Speaker 6: And look, we talked about Kyvon Thibadeau. This would be

1075
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Speaker 6: a great game for him to show up at, you know,

1076
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Speaker 6: on Thursday against the forty nine ers, you know, and

1077
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Speaker 6: collectively as a whole unit offense, defense and special teams,

1078
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Speaker 6: they got to start playing cleaner games. Nine penalties for

1079
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Speaker 6: seventy five yards, false starts, pre snap penalties, those those

1080
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Speaker 6: are the things that really kill you when when you

1081
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Speaker 6: got all things going for you and you're riding on

1082
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Speaker 6: all cylinders and you know, like the second half of today,

1083
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Speaker 6: if we see that type of football, you know, next

1084
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Speaker 6: week against you know, the forty nine ers on Thursday,

1085
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Speaker 6: they have a chance. But the penalties, even if they

1086
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Speaker 6: played that great of a game, if they played in

1087
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Speaker 6: the second half, the penalties will kill them against a

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00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 6: team like the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting you talk to the guys in

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00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: the locker room. Jonathan and I asked each of them

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00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: at different points during the conversation about how the switch

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00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: got clicked, you know, when the first half was just

1093
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: so difficult to deal with, and basically they said it

1094
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: was Hyatt's big catch, the fifty plus yard aer at

1095
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: the beginning of the third quarter that kind of got

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00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: the spark going, that made the little little flicker of

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00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: the flame start burning the wood, and then it just

1098
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: kind of built from there. That's how you named that

1099
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Speaker 2: R fourth played the game a little bit earlier now

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00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: your golf game.

1101
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: Show, so we were definitely on the same page.

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Speaker 4: Then please stick with us if you're on listening on

1103
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: our local flag substation WFAM. But it's time to say

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00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: goodbye to our affilions on our radio network.

1105
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 3: Across the country.

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00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 4: Our next broadcast we'll be on Thursday night when the

1107
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: Giants take on the San Francisco forty nine ers. Our

1108
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: network will joint for that game at seven point fifteen locally,

1109
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 4: we'll be at six to twenty five to make sure

1110
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Speaker 4: you tune in for that game. Thanks for listening to

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00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 4: us today and we'll see you on Thursday night for

1112
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Speaker 4: week number three of the WFAN Giants Radio network. Well,

1113
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: we are not done right here on WFN and New York.

1114
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Speaker 4: Stay on the phone. We'll be taking your calls for

1115
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: the next hour at eight seven seven.

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Speaker 3: Three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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Speaker 4: With Paul Deatino, Jonathan cansie Us and I more sound

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Speaker 4: from the locker room as well. We'll continue and break

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Speaker 4: it all down when we return right after this back

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Speaker 4: here on PEPSI Giants Extra point Schmelkin. Natino out here

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00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 4: in Arizona can see us back in New York. Let's

1122
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 4: take your calls for the next hour, folks. Let's celebrate

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00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: a Giants victory, a big comeback against the Arizona Car

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Speaker 4: in those thirty one.

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Speaker 3: To twenty eight in dramatic fashion. Joe in east Chester

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00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: has been holding patiently. Let's go to Joe next. Joe,

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00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Hey, I wanted to be on the national radio but

1129
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 10: but this is great.

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00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 23: I'm so excited that they finally won. But you know,

1131
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 23: like bul Fatino said earlier, you know that the the

1132
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 23: players can't help where they were drafted. But you know,

1133
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 23: let's face it, we give Shane a lot of credit,

1134
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 23: but really, you know, if you have two first round

1135
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 23: draft picks, both in the top ten. That's a once

1136
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 23: in a lifetime thing. And when you come away with

1137
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 23: two guys, they're let's face it, they're disappointing, and it's

1138
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 23: you know, it's not fun, right.

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00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 4: Joe, I understand what you're saying. It's been seventeen games

1140
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: in both those players' careers. I believe it might be

1141
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: sixteen for Neil and seventeen for Thibodau with.

1142
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: Four games last year, right, so he's up to Tibet

1143
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: one and they play two playoff games though. Oh so

1144
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 2: you're right.

1145
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 4: So Neil's at seventeen and Thibadeau I believe is at nineteen.

1146
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: So obviously, you know, a long way to go here,

1147
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 4: so in terms of in terms of those two players' careers.

1148
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: But look, I understand that you would want a little

1149
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: bit more early.

1150
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: But Joe, how do we don't worry about that after

1151
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: twenty what play cutback at the second halck?

1152
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: Have we talked about that another night?

1153
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 2: Please?

1154
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 23: You're right, and I do want to talk about that

1155
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 23: if you give me. I you know, listening to the

1156
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 23: Fox announcers, I wish I was listening to the radio

1157
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 23: with Bob.

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00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 12: Papa, because you know, it would have been a lot better.

1159
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 23: But I couldn't understand the offensive line. I couldn't figure out, well,

1160
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 23: you know, you had the left side of the line,

1161
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 23: which was the only decent part of the line. They're out,

1162
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 23: Thomason and Bretison are out now, and they were replaced

1163
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 23: by Zudu, who's a guard at Taco And then I

1164
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 23: think I saw Glewinsky at left guard and I right, am,

1165
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 23: I right?

1166
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: Yo, Yeah, you hited one hundred percent.

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00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: And a Zudu did play about five hundred snaps of

1168
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 4: left tackle in college, so he does have experience there

1169
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: dating back to college, but just not a lot of

1170
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: the pros.

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00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Joe and Glewinsky had played some left guard when he

1172
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: was in Seattle. I had a conversation with him about

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00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: a week or two ago.

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00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: He also did, by the way, in practice here yes

1175
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: as well.

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00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: Yes, And so they've been trying to make sure that

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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: guys are bouncing around and so they get a flavor

1178
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: of some other positions. And after giving up three sacks

1179
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: on officially last week, thank you, Lewinsky really did contribute tonight.

1180
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah he did.

1181
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 4: And look, this is why JC football is hard to

1182
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: figure sometimes, right, you lose your starting left tackle Andrew Thomas,

1183
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 4: then you love Ben Bradison, who were probably your two

1184
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 4: best offensive linemen last week, and then your offensive line

1185
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 4: plays a much better game. They weren't perfect. They still

1186
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: gave up three sacks in the game. There was a

1187
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: holding penalty late when Daniel Jones tried to scramble. But

1188
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: in the second half they protected well enough for them

1189
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 4: to make plays down the field, something we've been asking

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: for for the better part of a year, which is

1191
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: why they made the changes they did in the offseason.

1192
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: So as much as people killed the offensive line last week,

1193
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 4: and we all understand, why give him the seven sacks?

1194
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 4: The twelve quarterback hits to go down the list. This

1195
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 4: group that's very very young. JC did a nice today.

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00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna all throw it really quick. Josh A Zudu

1197
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: the starters was playing his twelfth game. Ben Retieson's in

1198
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: his fourth year. He's the grizzled vet of the group. Yes,

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 4: John Michael Schmid's his second ever game of Rookie Marcus

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00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: McKeith in his first start, seventh second game of his

1201
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 4: career after missing all last year with a knee injury

1202
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 4: and then Evan Neil playing it again his seventeenth game,

1203
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 4: including the playoffs last year. So, Jac, given the youth

1204
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: that they were trotting out there and then later having

1205
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: to pot Glinsky into the spot he's not familiar with,

1206
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I think you have

1207
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: to be pretty happy with the way the offensive line plays.

1208
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Think about this. The Giants were down by twenty one

1209
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: points midway through the third quarter, and for the game,

1210
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: they gave up three sacks and five quarterback hits.

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00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about you, Jac, that's it?

1212
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 6: No, I definitely agree with you guys in terms of

1213
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 6: how they played today in the second half, you know,

1214
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 6: in overall today, I think they did pretty good job

1215
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 6: basically all day because I don't feel like Daniel Jones

1216
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 6: is running for his life like he was last week.

1217
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 6: But Joe has a point. The call that I just called,

1218
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 6: he has a point. A lot of fans are concerned

1219
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 6: not just of Kevon Thibodeau's lack of production, but Evan Neil.

1220
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 6: You know, that's somebody that we focused on a lot,

1221
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 6: a lot of attention to and he again, you know, makes

1222
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 6: a pre snap penalties from holding calls, and you know,

1223
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 6: we need to see more out of the right tackle

1224
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 6: for the New York Giants, not just for himself, but

1225
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 6: for the future of Daniel Jones and this Giants offense.

1226
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: Because you got a guy this coming up Thursday in

1227
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 6: Bosa who is a phenomenal a phenomenal pass rusher, and

1228
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 6: he will be matched up against probably the weak link along.

1229
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: The offensive line. That's what they do.

1230
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 6: They're gonna match up whoever, whoever the Giants play here

1231
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 6: on out, They're gonna match up their strongest pass rushers

1232
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 6: against the weakest links of the offensive line. Andrew Thomas

1233
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 6: his job's gonna get easier and easier as other guys

1234
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 6: struggle along the offensive line because that's where the focus

1235
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 6: is gonna go. People are licking their chops and they're

1236
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 6: still doing it now. After this Cardinals game.

1237
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the calls eight seven seven three

1238
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: three seven sixty six sixty six. And now I will

1239
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: say that last Neil holding penalty too, he actually blocked

1240
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 4: this guy up. Jones scrambled and that's why he ended

1241
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: up having a hold when and frankly, Jones would have

1242
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 4: gotten tackled if Neil had not held him. And that's

1243
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 4: not Neil's fault because right Jones went to scramble out

1244
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 4: of the middle of that line. And to Jac's point,

1245
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 4: opponents matter.

1246
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: Obviously. We talked about this over the week.

1247
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: The line for Dallas is superioror what the Cardinals have

1248
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: in San Francisco is more in the Dallas. Category's spoof

1249
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 4: to see how this group now regroups, and we'll see

1250
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 4: how the'll play on Thursday, and whether Andrew Thomas will

1251
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: be back as well, something that will be tracking all

1252
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: week long.

1253
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: Real quick, I was only going to say that more

1254
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: of your opponents are going to be average quote opponents

1255
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: than they will Dallas. Dallas is one of your better defenses.

1256
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: So if you just take care of business against the

1257
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: rest of the league, you're still gonna have a good record.

1258
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 4: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1259
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: Justin is in Dobbs Ferry, he's been holding the longest.

1260
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: Justin what's going on?

1261
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 24: Hey, what's going on? After six quarters of play, it

1262
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 24: was almost thinking that Gable would we start taking the

1263
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 24: play calling in over in week three, but uh, Casco

1264
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 24: opened it up. You know, they were playing like a

1265
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 24: prevent offensive felt like the first you know, first first

1266
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 24: half and you know then would hye it going downsfield

1267
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 24: and like, while I like that, that's more of that.

1268
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 24: You know, it's going to open up all the running

1269
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 24: game because I think the uh, there's like blood in

1270
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 24: the water for the defense the last two weeks and

1271
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 24: they were just kind of sitting in the box waiting

1272
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 24: for Jones or you know, Barkley to run the ball.

1273
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 24: I think they finally opened it up. And thankfully we

1274
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 24: don't have to switch play calls after two weeks.

1275
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there was some speculation, by the way, I

1276
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 4: know a lot of some media members were speculating. Carl

1277
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: even mentioned on our air that they thought maybe Brian

1278
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: Dable taking over play calling in the second half of

1279
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: this game. He said in this postgame press conference that

1280
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 4: did not happen. He always has a play sheet down there.

1281
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure why the thought was that that

1282
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: had happened, but it didn't. They just and I said

1283
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 4: this earlier in the show JC and Paul that I

1284
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: think they got the halftime and they said, look, we

1285
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: would try to protect the offensive line in the first

1286
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: half a little bit because of all the youth that

1287
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: I mentioned, a lot of short stuff, a lot of

1288
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: stuff It's like, look, we're not twenty nothing. If we

1289
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: don't make a bunch of big plays, we're gonna lose regardless.

1290
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to trust these guys. And that

1291
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: trust paid off. They did a nice job and jac

1292
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: they able to make those big plays down the field.

1293
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And I want to see that early in

1294
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 6: the game, you know, like they started the game with

1295
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 6: three pass plays, like I know they were behind the

1296
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 6: sticks because of it.

1297
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: Was it a false start?

1298
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 6: I think that was early with a zudu and they

1299
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 6: were behind the sticks first and fifteen. That's never good

1300
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 6: to start the game that way. But like I would

1301
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 6: like to see, you know, I talk about this all

1302
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 6: the time about the first fifteen plays. Take a shot

1303
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 6: in the first fifteen plays, run the ball, different formations,

1304
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 6: different personnel groups, substitute in and out, and I just

1305
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 6: didn't see that early on in this game. Of course,

1306
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 6: they got a little behind the six with that with

1307
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 6: that first penalty, but that's the way you do it.

1308
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 6: You start and then you go attack this defense, no

1309
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: matter who you're playing, attack them downfield, and then watch

1310
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 6: those safeties soften up a little bit. Watch those linebackers

1311
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 6: don't blitz in on run plays, and that's.

1312
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: What you saw in the second half.

1313
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 6: You saw a very versele a very vertically oriented offense,

1314
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 6: and that caused a lot of problems for the Arizona

1315
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 6: Cardlans today.

1316
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: You know, Fellas, the Giants got down again for the

1317
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: second week in a row, very early, and it took

1318
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: the offense out of any kind of rhythm that they

1319
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: may have wanted to try to establish. Consider this, and

1320
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: this is why I really have to put a very

1321
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: large weight on the defense's shoulders here, because Arizona on

1322
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: its first six possessions going all the way into the

1323
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: early third quarter, they had three touchdowns, okay, two field goals,

1324
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: and on the first drive they had a missed field goal.

1325
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: The defense wasn't doing anything anything to help the offense

1326
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: out and to keep the game in a manageable situation

1327
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 2: where they might have been able to stick to a

1328
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: more conventional playbook and game plan.

1329
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: But you also have to have more than one first

1330
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: out on your first three drives, no doubt, no doubt.

1331
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: At some point you have to create your own rhythm

1332
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: to you know what I mean.

1333
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: Agreed, Agreed, but the he never really made a quote

1334
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: defensive stand.

1335
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 8: No.

1336
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: While the offense was bleeding out the defense did nothing

1337
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: to clean it up, which is similar to what happened

1338
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: last week. Yes, and I think seven Yeah, go ahead, Jase.

1339
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1340
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, I think the conservative play

1341
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 6: calling handcuffs this offense. Right, Darren Waller needs to be

1342
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: running down field. Jalen Hyatt needs to be running for

1343
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 6: thirty or forty yards before that ball gets thrown to him.

1344
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: And if you're conservative, you're not gonna be able to

1345
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 6: do that. You know, You're not gonna be able to

1346
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 6: maximize the potential of the vertical passing game that the

1347
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 6: Giants have created this offseason.

1348
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: So I don't mean, I don't mean they interrupt you,

1349
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: but in fairness, I think they did try that in

1350
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 4: Week one and the result was seven sacks and.

1351
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: Twelve quarterback You know what I'm saying.

1352
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And we'll see what their approach is on

1353
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: on Thursday night against the forty nine ers as well.

1354
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1355
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 4: Let's go to Tim and Charleston. We'll take him before

1356
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 4: we take our next break. Tim, what's going on?

1357
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 25: Hey guys, John Jonathan, good to talk to you now,

1358
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 25: you know I've been a couple of few years regular

1359
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 25: call it a BBKL. First time I've ever called him

1360
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 25: postgame because I had to tell you about my emotions

1361
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 25: and wear them, which I will go. I will go

1362
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 25: rapid fire because I know you got a lot of

1363
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 25: people want to call in. But first of all, the

1364
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 25: end of the first half, six quarters, no score. You know,

1365
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 25: I'm going to watch the game at the bar, drink

1366
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 25: my beer, smoke a cigar, have my kickoff shot, be

1367
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 25: ready to have touchdown shots. But I wasn't gonna have

1368
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 25: one until we had at least side and that's what

1369
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 25: I did, and then a victory one. But besides the

1370
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 25: old alcohol, at the end of the first half, I

1371
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 25: was like, I'm going to go home. I'm going to

1372
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 25: go home and listen to Bob popping Carl Banks call

1373
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 25: the rest of this game. And one of the interesting

1374
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 25: things is that the other call mentioned I wish I'd

1375
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 25: listened to it on the radio with Bob and Carl,

1376
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 25: is that it was raining a lot here in Charleston,

1377
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 25: so the direct TV feed kept going up, so I

1378
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 25: got to listen to them, and man, and I'll tell

1379
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 25: you something about those guys. In the first half they

1380
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 25: weren't pulling any punctious they were being brutally honest about

1381
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 25: the Giants' failures to do a lot of things. But

1382
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 25: then second half comes, we scored a touchdown. I'm like, okay,

1383
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 25: maybe we got a chance. Now the defense just has

1384
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 25: to stand up the two point conversion and I'm like really, yeah,

1385
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 25: God really, and then and then it was like a

1386
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 25: switch flift and it already had for the offense, but then.

1387
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 18: Work.

1388
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 10: And so.

1389
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 25: They were all out there and they started rotting for

1390
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 25: me because they they realized they had a lost cause

1391
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 25: against Cowboys, and they were all good guys. But the

1392
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 25: one thing I'll tell you, there's a couple of couple

1393
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 25: of quick points. I thought our rookie corners played really well.

1394
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 25: I mean, Hawking has dropped the interception, but you know,

1395
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 25: he's a rookie. I mean, you know, but it was

1396
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 25: still a great play. And the other thing that I

1397
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 25: wanted to touch on was, yeah, like the offensive line played.

1398
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 25: I thought, having those young guys in there, I think

1399
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 25: that's the future. So that's solid. And the last point was,

1400
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 25: oh my god, really quickly, oh at the end, when

1401
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 25: when we scored the third touchdown and we got twenty

1402
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 25: eight to twenty. I was like, he's going for a

1403
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 25: two point conversion here, and I thought that was brilliant

1404
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 25: because you go for the two point conversion there. I

1405
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 25: thought it was a brilliant decision by Gable. You go

1406
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 25: for the two point conversion there, and then if you

1407
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 25: get it, you score touchdown, you win. Right If you

1408
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 25: don't get it, you get two point conversion the next one.

1409
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 25: Obviously we got the penalty and then we scored the

1410
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 25: next touchdown. We had enough time to kick a field goal.

1411
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 25: But I thought it was all brilliant and thank god this.

1412
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 25: And I don't expect us to beat the forty nine ers,

1413
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 25: but i'd like to csp competitive and I don't hear anything,

1414
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 25: so I hope I'm selling the line.

1415
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.

1416
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 25: I know I've been rambling so a lot times. I

1417
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 25: never hear anything, but I rambled, but h and like

1418
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 25: I said, three shots six sperience, you know I'm a

1419
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 25: little bit in the bag.

1420
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, we could tell Tim.

1421
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: Appreciate the call.

1422
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 4: Timan Tim dropping bombs, all right, Tim appreciate the call that.

1423
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: Don't worry.

1424
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 4: Jac Connor took care of that one for us. No

1425
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 4: one heard that excellent job by Connor back in the

1426
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 4: Shop eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1427
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 4: I want to get to some of the locker room

1428
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: sounds here. Paul Deatino was downstairs.

1429
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: He was with Stolen Shepherd Isaiah Hodgens talking about that

1430
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: second half comeback.

1431
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: Let's listen into his conversation with them that Dave.

1432
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 8: Said, that's.

1433
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 5: Exactly that.

1434
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 8: Now backs against the wall.

1435
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 24: What we're gonna do.

1436
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 8: We're gonna fight or what and so, uh, that's what

1437
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 8: that's like. I said, that's what we did.

1438
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 22: I was proud of the guys and the way we

1439
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 22: fre I mean, you said, we're gonna take a play

1440
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 22: by play, and what.

1441
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 8: Did you think about Djo.

1442
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: Those two guys just look like they were ords. Those

1443
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: two guys look like.

1444
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 26: They just want the guys the way they can go

1445
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 26: for you know, it was just play.

1446
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's resiliency, I mean, something that we talk about

1447
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 22: all the time too. And uh, those are two guys

1448
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 22: that are very competitive and wanna win, and and they

1449
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 22: played with a lot.

1450
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 8: Of heart and passions.

1451
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 27: So that's exactly what was displayed.

1452
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 28: You know, we came into that high time that just

1453
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 28: because we realized that. You know, we were sitting ourselves in

1454
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 28: the flood the foot and you know, we were moving

1455
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 28: the ball lite and it came down and students own

1456
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 28: the stay. So he came in there halftime in Udalarty together.

1457
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 8: You know, we got together. We said all that time

1458
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 8: and Austin's and spending time with each.

1459
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 28: Other and robbery like you find out about that now,

1460
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 28: you know, and the hard times you don't find that out.

1461
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 8: You know how close you.

1462
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 28: Are when you're up thirties or he's finding out with towns,

1463
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 28: you know, and it just shows how close with Tea.

1464
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: So I think your body just told me this was

1465
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: a really special thing for you to famous had.

1466
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 5: A nice you can stay a situation.

1467
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, my son and my parents were right there, Intenzo,

1468
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 8: so I was able to give the ball and you

1469
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 8: signed and it was the birthday.

1470
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 28: So because it's definitely a birthday for him to recover,

1471
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 28: he was that he won't know it now, but he'll

1472
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 28: look back on it and at that moment.

1473
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 8: So that's a great celebration.

1474
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 19: What is the big day?

1475
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,479
Speaker 3: The who to control of a huddle and Thentinue fund?

1476
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 15: What do people respot?

1477
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think just as calmness and as boys, you know,

1478
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 28: just as confidence in himself and you only act like

1479
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 28: you're confident. You know, you can't be boys and sit

1480
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 28: there and leading a team if they're not confident yourself.

1481
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 8: You know, it's confident because he prepares the ass off

1482
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 8: throughout the whole week.

1483
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 25: You know, he's one of.

1484
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 28: The hardest work versus is there and making sure that

1485
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 28: why receiver was on the same page, the same so

1486
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 28: you know when we get that look and like on

1487
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 28: the touchhound the lily looking before him, it was like.

1488
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 8: Be ready, like he knew like it was coming. So

1489
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 8: you know, like that's just how prepare him. Sometimes we

1490
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 8: talk about the menums being the real thing.

1491
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't.

1492
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 8: The crowd is going crazy.

1493
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 5: It seemed like when you guys were.

1494
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: Coming back, they were sparking you.

1495
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 28: So how did they played in it greatly? I mean,

1496
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 28: Giants fans travel crazy, you know, and I mean that

1497
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 28: was one of my better experiences just when it's in.

1498
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 28: How did they travel and how it was just surprised

1499
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 28: that given a pregame to see how many Giants fans

1500
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 28: are out there.

1501
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 8: So I'm now salute to them and all their loyal

1502
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 8: fans out there and they definitely have off the Hoiden

1503
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 8: finshou we chald the.

1504
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 4: Grinch, they're stolen Shepherd and Paul Deatina. What Isaiah Hodgens

1505
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 4: down there in the locker room, Well, we'll me even

1506
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 4: ask you this. Well, I mean, obviously the mood was happy,

1507
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: But what was that locker room like down there after

1508
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 4: that type of victory. Was there complete jubilation or was

1509
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 4: there some of well, you know, we really can't put

1510
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 4: ourselves in that type of predicament.

1511
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: There was some relief, there was some confidence, and that

1512
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: they always thought that they could put that out there

1513
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 2: on the field. And look, I told everybody last week,

1514
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think that was the Giants that they got

1515
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: whacked by Dallas, and it didn't look like the Giants

1516
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 2: again the first half tonight. But what we saw in

1517
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: the second half of this game, and you're right, substandard opponent.

1518
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: We can't ignore that. I didn't say that, Well, you

1519
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: said the quality of opponent. Does the mass rush in

1520
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: terms of blocking on the pass rushian talent yet?

1521
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: Okay?

1522
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: But but what we saw in the second half of

1523
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: this game is something that you and I have witnessed

1524
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: a lot during training camp, during those six weeks, we

1525
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: saw a higher level of execution that said something like

1526
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 2: that half was absolutely possible for this team to put

1527
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: on tape.

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: All right, we'll keep taking your calls at eight seven

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Speaker 4: seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. Well, we

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Speaker 4: get back to your calls in just a second. But

1545
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: first we got a minute of Paul Deatina with Darren Waller,

1546
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 4: who had a big game for the Giants with the

1547
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 4: passing and especially in that second half down there in

1548
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 4: the locker room mat to the game.

1549
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 3: Let's listen in Darren.

1550
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 2: How difficult was it when Jones goes in for that

1551
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: touchdown and we call it back on a pedaly and

1552
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: now you guys have to recroup.

1553
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,959
Speaker 3: The emotions must have been unbelievable.

1554
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 29: Yeah, man, it's that's that's the roller coaster of football, man,

1555
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 29: and it's side for the you know, it stings for

1556
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 29: a little bit of a second, but was like, all right,

1557
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 29: I gotta bring myself back to the middle because it's

1558
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 29: gonna be it's gonna be high plays like it was.

1559
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 29: And it's like the instantly went back to a little

1560
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 29: like just dramatically, and it's like you gotta be able

1561
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 29: to just take a deep breath, really be like maam.

1562
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 8: And then get back to the huddle and go to

1563
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 8: the next play.

1564
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: How important is Daniel Jones leadership in the huddle when

1565
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: you guys are trying to come out of a huge

1566
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: cradle like that in good time?

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 18: Man?

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 29: Just like I said, just the poison it because like

1569
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 29: you talk about like like the whole like, hey, it's

1570
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 29: like that where it's like it's keeping your focus off

1571
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 29: of what ons also back and more on what the

1572
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 29: process looks like, because it's a process to go from

1573
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 29: twenty to zero to twenty to seven to twenty to

1574
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 29: fourteen like each and every stage.

1575
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 8: You can't look at the very end stage like Okay,

1576
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 8: how do we win this games?

1577
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 29: Like how do we win this play?

1578
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 8: Who in his possession? And he's one of the name

1579
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 8: guys leading the charge.

1580
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: Mind that you think around there, you know, JC, it's

1581
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: good to have a guy like Waller, who's such a smart,

1582
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: even keel player and a veteran to try to keep

1583
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: everyone a little bit level there, even though things were

1584
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: going pretty bad in the first half.

1585
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he talked about process, right, it's all about

1586
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 6: the process, man. I like the word that he used,

1587
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 6: because that's what it is all about.

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 12: You know.

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 6: It's not about trying to you know, recover from a

1590
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 6: twenty point deficit. No, it's just one play at a time.

1591
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 6: What's my responsibility to this play? Am by doing my

1592
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 6: responsibility on this play and that little bit of procedure,

1593
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 6: one play at a time, that one of no mentality.

1594
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you stack those plays up, you

1595
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 6: get more positive plays than bad, and you find yourself

1596
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 6: fighting back and clawing back. And that's what the Giants

1597
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 6: did in the second half, you know. And it all

1598
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 6: started from that Jalen Hyatt deep pass.

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 29: You know.

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01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 6: That electrifies a team. That's something we didn't see in

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01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 6: the first half. That's something that we didn't see last week,

1602
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 6: you know. So I'm just looking forward to the Giants

1603
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 6: putting together, you know, another game plan, possibly more like

1604
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 6: the second half than the first half.

1605
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Speaker 5: In this next week coming up.

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 4: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phone and say, what's up

1608
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: the Cliff in Manhattan. He's been holding the longest and

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01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 4: Andy Europe next Cliff, what's going on?

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Speaker 21: Hey, guys, thanks for everything. Listen. I have a question

1611
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 21: about the mysterious flow of the game thing that you

1612
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 21: guys have been trying to teach us during the week.

1613
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 21: And but before I get to that, with Kaevon, I'm

1614
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 21: watching him early in the game. They highlighted him and

1615
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 21: I see him being held and then double teams to

1616
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 21: boot on the same play, and then I'm thinking, oh,

1617
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 21: Azizo's Julari is not on the other side. So if

1618
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 21: I'm Arizona, go into the game. Uh and and I

1619
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 21: see that that guy is out. I mean, who said

1620
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 21: Kavon's assignment was to rush the passer on every play

1621
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 21: and if it was the the the the offense was

1622
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 21: certainly ready for it. And uh, Carl was saying that

1623
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 21: he was he was setting the edge and that the

1624
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 21: problem was the second layer of the defense wasn't wasn't

1625
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 21: making tackles and uh so it meant to me the

1626
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 21: Kavan's assignment on those plays was setting the edge. So

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 21: I'm not I'm not concerned at all, except that we

1628
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 21: still don't seem to have anybody besides Azis that can

1629
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 21: take as much attention. And if I remember right when

1630
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 21: Kavon had his big plays last year, as was also

1631
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 21: in the game. But the big question I had was,

1632
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 21: you know, I get that the the hight play, the

1633
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 21: first one electrified everybody. You could see the way they

1634
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,520
Speaker 21: were jumping on the sideline. I mean, it just electrified

1635
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 21: the whole world.

1636
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 10: But after we after.

1637
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 21: Daniel scores on that the other team comes right back.

1638
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 21: They came right back and scored and got a two

1639
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 21: point conversion and said, so what you know, my question

1640
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 21: is what the heck happened after that, because after that,

1641
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 21: those guys couldn't do anything on either side of the ball.

1642
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 21: And I'm looking for that mysterious thing that you have

1643
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 21: been trying to teach us, which doesn't seem to have

1644
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 21: to do with physical or mental or schemes. It just

1645
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 21: during the game, something happens and the other guys you

1646
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 21: could see it. They looked like they didn't think they

1647
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 21: could do anything.

1648
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, Cliff, you know what.

1649
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 4: I will say this though, on that following drive by

1650
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 4: the Cardinals, their first play after the Giants put it

1651
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 4: the twenty eight fourteen, to your point, Dobbs, it's Ertz

1652
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 4: for a seventeen yard catch.

1653
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: Two plays later Trey McBride for sixteen yards.

1654
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 4: It was brought back because of a penalty of blocking

1655
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: the back, which was unnecessary to the play, but it happened,

1656
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 4: so it gets called. Three plays after that, Dobbs is

1657
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 4: Michael Wilson for sixteen yards. So you had three chunk

1658
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 4: plays of fifteen yards or more on that next drive.

1659
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 4: Then the Giants kind of held. They forced a few

1660
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 4: incomplete passes after that, and then they forced punts on

1661
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 4: the next two Cardinal drives as well, So It wasn't

1662
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 4: like right after that two point conversion the Giants shut

1663
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: it down. Ther Carlos actually did move the ball well

1664
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 4: on that next five. But then but then they kind

1665
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 4: of settled in JCAF and they said, all right, no more,

1666
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna get a stop here. Did you see anything,

1667
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 4: Jonathan change with this Giants defense, specifically in that fourth quarter,

1668
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 4: because the third quarter wasn't great either, but in the

1669
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 4: fourth quarter when they started to get those stops.

1670
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 5: No, But just to speak on the point that he

1671
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 5: was trying to make about the ebb and flow of

1672
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 5: a game, the momentum of a game, appreciate it.

1673
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 3: It was non.

1674
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 6: Existent in the first half, you know, and I spoke

1675
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 6: about this after the last game. You have to go

1676
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 6: take the momentum back. You can't will it back, you can't.

1677
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 6: You got to go take it back. That's what the

1678
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 6: Giants did in the second half. So in the second half,

1679
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 6: that was more like the flow of a game that

1680
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 6: I'm used to. Good stuff happens, bad stuff happens, more

1681
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 6: good stuff happens, more bad stuff happens. But like, we

1682
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 6: didn't see that from the Giants in the first six

1683
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 6: quarters of this season. We only seen bad stuff happen.

1684
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 6: More bad stuff happened, and nobody stepped up to go

1685
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 6: out there and make a play to go ahead and

1686
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 6: bring that momentum back and bring that energy.

1687
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 5: Back to the sideline. And it is a real things.

1688
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 5: You can't really explain it.

1689
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm trying to explain it right now, but it's just

1690
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 6: that the flow of a game is a back and

1691
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 6: forth battle. You know, every single play is a battle,

1692
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 6: and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But when you're

1693
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 6: losing all of those battles all around from all eleven

1694
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 6: guys on all three phases of the field like they

1695
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 6: did in week one, that's what you see.

1696
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:39,799
Speaker 5: That's the result.

1697
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 6: But now that you have a play that sparked this team,

1698
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 6: now you got everybody excited, everybody energy is back, and yes,

1699
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 6: of course those guys are gonna make plays still, which

1700
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 6: they did on that first drive of the second half

1701
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 6: of the Arizona Cardinals. But the EBB and flow was

1702
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 6: now existent. It wasn't existing for the first six quarters,

1703
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 6: but it was for the last two. And the Giants

1704
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 6: are better team than the card News and they showed

1705
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 6: that in the second half.

1706
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: To me, the defense really finally broke out of its

1707
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 2: shell when the Giants had cut it to twenty eight

1708
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: to twenty one with about nine minutes left in the game.

1709
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: The ensuing two possessions they forced three and outs, the

1710
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 2: first three and outs that they had forced all night long. Then,

1711
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: of course, there was the hail Mary situation at the

1712
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 2: end of the game, which we'll just put that aside.

1713
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: But the guys who stepped up on those two possessions

1714
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: to give the Giants a chance to finally complete the comeback.

1715
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: It was Dexter Lawrence who had a huge quarterback hit

1716
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: on first down with about eight and a half minutes

1717
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: to go to force an incompletion. Then Connor, who had

1718
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: been running hard all day, get stuffed by Ashawn Robinson

1719
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: for one yard, setting up.

1720
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 3: A third and long.

1721
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 2: They get the false start, and then Simmons on a

1722
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: short flat pass halts it to a three yard game

1723
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,440
Speaker 2: and that forced.

1724
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 3: The three and out. They always just a checkdown on

1725
01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: that third.

1726
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they basically were giving up on the play, but

1727
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: he made the tackle. He misses the tackle, maybe there's

1728
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: a bigger, chunky yardage, but the defense right there, that's

1729
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: when I said, oh my god, the Giants defense finally,

1730
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: finally did what they had to do, and then on

1731
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: the first two plays of the next drive by the

1732
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals after the Giants are tied it at twenty eight,

1733
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: Bobby ocarake and Dexter Lawrence made the first and second

1734
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: down plays right before the double Cardinals false starts, and

1735
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: then o'kaake finished off the third down play by tackling

1736
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: Ertz on another short checkdown. So you know, credit those

1737
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: guys who made the biggest plays in the biggest series

1738
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: that finally gave the Giants the chance to top off

1739
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: the comeback.

1740
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 4: We do a report, by the way, from NFL insider

1741
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,919
Speaker 4: Jordan Schultz usually does that pretty good information.

1742
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: Now, this is not confirmed by the Giants.

1743
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 4: As not being reported by the Giants, this is simply

1744
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,879
Speaker 4: an Internet report that I'm reading ver batim Jordan Schultz sources.

1745
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 4: The Giants believe Pro Bowl running back Saquon Barkley stuff

1746
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 4: at a sprained ankle at the end of today's win

1747
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: over the Cardinals. I'm told it, and this isn't quotes

1748
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 4: could have been much worse end quote, And the team

1749
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 4: feels Barkley avoiding a major injury short turn around Thursday

1750
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 4: night at the Niners. More updates to come, and again

1751
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 4: the Giants are not confirming that that that is according

1752
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: to the NFL insider Jordan Schultz.

1753
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: So that's something that as the Giants stay out.

1754
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 4: Here in Tempe in preparation for that game against the

1755
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 4: Niners on Thursday, they'll flat to San Francisco on Wednesday.

1756
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 4: We'll be tracking that Saquon Barkley injury on Giants dot Com,

1757
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: the Giants Mobile app, and all those other places social

1758
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 4: media platforms and Big Bill Kickoff Live.

1759
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 3: We'll be on again this week, folks.

1760
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 4: If you want some Giants talk during the week, we'll

1761
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 4: be back twelve thirty every day this week talking Giants

1762
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: football on the Giants apt than at Giants dot Com.

1763
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 3: All right, I want to get to Andy in Fort Lee.

1764
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: He's been holding the longest and he's been on for

1765
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: a while, so want to make sure we get Andy

1766
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 2: in before we break Andy, what's going on?

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, thank you, thanks for taking the call. A

1768
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 12: long time listener. This is the time I've called. I

1769
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 12: respect everything that you guys do, and so I shake

1770
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 12: my head a lot. I do shake my head a

1771
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 12: lot about some of the things I just kept two

1772
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 12: points one I'd like to make about Cividau and the

1773
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 12: other one about mcspadden. But you know, I coached football,

1774
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 12: I coached defense, and I don't believe in hyper fanfare,

1775
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 12: but I know that you guys need to, especially during

1776
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 12: training camp and pre season. H when you look at Cividau,

1777
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 12: I mean when you see an elite talent that he

1778
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 12: has God given talent. I mean the first day of

1779
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 12: the practice of the team, you can tell who the

1780
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 12: great athletes are, and he's one of them. Okay, I'm

1781
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 12: sure from the time he stepped on the field as

1782
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 12: a peewee, his coach said, this kid has, you know,

1783
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 12: god given talent, and he's above and beyond almost everyone

1784
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 12: else in the field, and so you do expect more

1785
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 12: from him. And I expected more last year. I expected

1786
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 12: more during training camp, during the preseason.

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01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1788
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 12: Today's game was very disappointing. In the first half he

1789
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 12: got double team most of the time, he did set

1790
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 12: the edge, but in the second half, in the second

1791
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 12: half a lot of times, and Jonathan, I think you

1792
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 12: couldn't agree with me. He was only basically had to

1793
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 12: beat a tight end in a lot of situations. And

1794
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 12: what he's been doing is he runs into the person.

1795
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 12: He doesn't fight his way, getting his arms out, keeping

1796
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 12: the demand off him, and then using his legs to

1797
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 12: get around him like he should. Now, let me tell

1798
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 12: you again, I took this way a long time. Let

1799
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 12: me tell you what a writer said when the Giants

1800
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 12: trained with Detroit one Ride. I don't know who it was, said,

1801
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 12: you know, Cibodo can learn a lot from Aiden Hutchinson.

1802
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 12: And the writer said, Aiden Hutchinson went one hundred percent

1803
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 12: on every single snap their joint practice, and Thibodeau did not.

1804
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 12: And he said, you know, Thibodaux should be looking at

1805
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 12: him and saying, boy, that's what I need to do,

1806
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 12: because if I do that in practice, I'm going to

1807
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 12: do that in the game. So that's sort of my

1808
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 12: first point. I'd like to hear what you guys have

1809
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 12: to say.

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 3: Well, Andy, I want to say too.

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01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what writer you're quoting there,

1812
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 4: but I don't think there's any way to know whether

1813
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 4: a writer knows whether or not a player is going

1814
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 4: one hundred percent of practice. I mean, you can say

1815
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 4: they're not being productive and they're not making enough plays,

1816
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 4: and that's all fair because that's what you're seeing but

1817
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 4: there's no way to know whether or not guy is trying.

1818
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 4: And I will just say this about Caveon Thibodeau. He

1819
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: did not miss one practice all summer. He didn't take

1820
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 4: days off, he didn't take veteran days. He did not

1821
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 4: miss a day of practice. Now to your point, wink, Martindale,

1822
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 4: heading into that Detroit scrimmage, came out publicly and said, look,

1823
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 4: I want to get a little bit more from Kavon

1824
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 4: Tiberda and practices. He came out and he said that,

1825
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 4: And on our shows, we haven't been raving all summer

1826
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: about how he's dominating practice or anything like that.

1827
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: So that is all true.

1828
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 4: But I want to pump the brakes on the not

1829
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 4: trying his hardest thing, because there's no way for any

1830
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 4: of us to know whether or not that's true. So

1831
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: I don't like to speculate about things like that because

1832
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 4: that talks about a guy's character, and I don't think

1833
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: that's something we necessarily know is factual or not the

1834
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 4: plays we get. But let's not let's not impune effort

1835
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: and will when we don't know whether or not that's true.

1836
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 2: I can give you one fact though, that you should

1837
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: be aware of the writers were well over a football

1838
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: field away from the one on one drills, and John

1839
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: and I had a chance to watch the one on

1840
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: one drills up close.

1841
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 3: That's true.

1842
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: Thibodeaux won most of his one on one drills against

1843
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: the Lions during the two practice sessions. Okay, the writers

1844
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: were well over a.

1845
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 3: Football field away, and and by the way, that's not

1846
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 3: their fault. I didn't see it. They were. They were

1847
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: literally one hundred and.

1848
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: Two that's where the writer media section is in Detroit. Correct,

1849
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: So they could not see that. So when they talked

1850
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: about well, maybe he didn't totally dominate or didn't ball

1851
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: out or whatever on whatever snaps they saw in Detroit,

1852
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: they were talking about the eleven on.

1853
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: Eleven in the team portion, Hutcheson did make more plays

1854
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 3: than him in the eleven that's absolutely correct. Yes, that's

1855
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 3: absolutely correct.

1856
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 2: But the stuff that they could not see, well, that's

1857
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: where actually Thibodeau outscored Hutchinson if you were, if you

1858
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: were able to see it.

1859
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: What's your second point, Andy, real quick?

1860
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Speaker 12: Well, okay, my second point is about Michael McFadden. I

1861
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 12: understand why he's in there. He's got a lot of speed. Uh,

1862
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 12: But as a middle linebacker, you need a lot more

1863
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 12: than speed. And unfortunately he doesn't fight off any blocks.

1864
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 12: He gets pushed back, and you know, he goes and

1865
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,520
Speaker 12: tries to make arm tackles and uh, you know, unfortunately,

1866
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 12: Uh again I thought that, uh the everyone said that

1867
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 12: he was much better this year, and you do a

1868
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 12: better job. I mean again, I'm not impugning him at all,

1869
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 12: but I just don't see where he h he has

1870
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 12: the ability to uh to be a starting insidelnebacker for

1871
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 12: the Giants. I just don't see it. I wish I did,

1872
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 12: but I just don't see it.

1873
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 5: Well.

1874
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 6: Andy, first off, thank you for waiting. Thank you for

1875
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 6: waiting for so long, because I saw Andy's name of

1876
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 6: there for a while. And look the point, the first

1877
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 6: point that he made, uh with kvon Thibodeau. There's something

1878
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 6: to that, guys, because now this is this is now

1879
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 6: we've heard this name. This guy's name popped up several

1880
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 6: times in terms of lack of effort or questioning that.

1881
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 6: And it's not a one off thing. There's a you know,

1882
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 6: multiple people saying it. Coach said it, you know, so

1883
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 6: I think it hasn't quite manifested quite yet. But I

1884
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 6: think that's something to pay attention to how he's going

1885
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 6: to respond to this game, because there was a point

1886
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 6: in again, like I said, he was sitting by himself,

1887
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 6: you know, because this is a quick turnaround to to this,

1888
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 6: you know, this this trip that they're about to take

1889
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 6: over to the San frand I know they're staying on

1890
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 6: the West coast, but it's still a quick turnaround no

1891
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 6: matter where they're going, it's still a few days away.

1892
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 6: And I want to pay attention to that. I want

1893
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 6: to see Kyvon's practice habits. I want to see how

1894
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 6: he is on the sideline because those things definitely matter.

1895
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 10: You know.

1896
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 5: I don't think it manifested quite yet, but it is

1897
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: a long way to go. We got a long way

1898
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 5: to go.

1899
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 6: And then also Mikeah McFadden man, and it was a

1900
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 6: lot of times today where I feel like Michael McFadden

1901
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 6: failed to make the play that he was supposed to make.

1902
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 6: You know, all of these defenses are designed for certain

1903
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 6: people to make plays on certain downs, and a lot

1904
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 6: of times it was designed for MIKEL McFadden to make it,

1905
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 6: and he just did not make it. I expect Isaiah

1906
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 6: Simmons to go ahead and get inserted into the rotation,

1907
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 6: probably a little bit more and a little bit earlier

1908
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 6: than they wanted them to. But whenever I see Isaiah

1909
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 6: Simmons in the game and him going to attack the

1910
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 6: ball carriers, he looked like he had violent intentions. He

1911
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 6: looked explosive, he looked fast, And that's what the Giants

1912
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 6: need on this defense to keep up with any offense

1913
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 6: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six.

1915
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Will take more of your calls when we come back

1916
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 2: on Pepsi Giants Extra Point.

1917
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: You're listening to pep Seed Giants Extra Point on the

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Speaker 1: WFAN Giants Radio network.

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Speaker 7: Dobbs in a shotgun swaying cum sat loud, Dobbs doc

1920
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 7: to throw jeep fall down the right sideline. There's good

1921
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 7: coverage and the passers merely intercepted, had its incomplete.

1922
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,959
Speaker 3: Hawkins at the best chance.

1923
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Speaker 29: For it.

1924
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 3: And by the way, that was our Giants turning point

1925
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: of the game.

1926
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 4: Listened to Boomer and g O on our flagship station

1927
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 4: WFAN tomorrow morning in the nine am hour for the

1928
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 4: Giants Turning Point contest. The first gret code and named

1929
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 4: the the game's turning point will win two tickets to

1930
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 4: an upcoming Giants home game, and it's gonna take a

1931
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: lot of calls, so I'll think of that one, right,

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01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 4: Boomer and g I apologize ahead of time into al

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01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 4: Dukes who was to screen those calls, because it's gonna

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01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: take a while. But here's my reasoning, Guys. Up until

1935
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 4: that point, the Giants defense had not gotten to stop

1936
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 4: the Cardinals had literally scored on every single one of

1937
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 4: their drives except for their missed field goal on their

1938
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 4: first drive.

1939
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: At the yam.

1940
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: They were gushing blood.

1941
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 4: It was the first punt the Giants defense forced in

1942
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 4: the game, and if the defense never stopped the bleeding,

1943
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 4: everything the Giants offense did in the second half wouldn't

1944
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 4: have mattered at all.

1945
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: So that was a third and eleven. It forced the

1946
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: only punt of the game, and.

1947
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 4: I apologize to al Dukes, GEO and Boomer for having

1948
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: the screen all the calls is gonna take for the

1949
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 4: fan to get that right, But I truly do believe

1950
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: that was the turning point of the game. Eight seven

1951
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 4: seven three to three, seven sixty six to sixty six

1952
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 4: eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. Uh,

1953
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Speaker 4: let's go back to the phones, and it looks like

1954
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 4: Richard in Manhattan has been holding the longest.

1955
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 3: Richard, what's going on?

1956
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 10: I John Jonathan Paul. You know, I've been listening to

1957
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 10: Giant games the sixty one years, and I still can't

1958
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 10: believe that they've never come back from twenty points. I

1959
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 10: mean the Fran talking ten years. Oh no, yeah, well

1960
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 10: they have.

1961
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 3: It was in the forties.

1962
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 18: This was.

1963
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: Twenty one down. Yeah. The only one alive to watch

1964
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:09,719
Speaker 3: out was Polatino. No one else was around.

1965
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 10: The sixty two championship game against the Pack of sixteenth

1966
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 10: to seven I had on radio. I was seven years old,

1967
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 10: and I remembered listening to that game with uh uh

1968
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 10: uh I forgot his uh the great bay Maddy Goriickman

1969
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 10: doing the game, of course, and I think with I'll

1970
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 10: be regardless anyway, I would have thought during the talking

1971
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 10: ten years, especially in the beginning, because I mean I'm

1972
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 10: talking to the Tittled years, because Connolly was the quarterback

1973
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 10: and tittle it took a little time to you know,

1974
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 10: get into starting. Then I would think, well, Carcel's years.

1975
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 10: I know they didn't fall behind that yet that far,

1976
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 10: but talking ten years, I would have thought and maybe

1977
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 10: here at too a game with McVeagh when he was coach,

1978
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 10: or Perkins was the coach, they might have come back.

1979
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 10: They've never come back from twenty. I feel privileged to

1980
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 10: have listened to Carl and Bob Poppa today and just

1981
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 10: nonchalant at the end of the game. I hear, I

1982
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 10: haven't done this in eighty years. I mean twenty it's

1983
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 10: not is it, Fellas, that's only two downs, right, I mean,

1984
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 10: I think that's more incredible than the fact that they

1985
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 10: did come back from twenty on that I didn't think

1986
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 10: that was that big a deal. I mean, it's a

1987
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 10: big deal, you know, especially the way the Giants had

1988
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 10: been playing Game one. So it is a great win,

1989
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 10: and it was great that they came back from twenty.

1990
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 10: But I can't believe it's been eighty years. That's what

1991
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 10: fascinates me the most. I would have never thought of

1992
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 10: that as a Giant fan, like I say, for sixty

1993
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 10: one years. It's that this has been worth listening to

1994
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 10: the game for. And it's great. It was a great broadcasting,

1995
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 10: great game, and I'm just so happy the guys are

1996
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,959
Speaker 10: extending it and making all these calls. I really appreciate

1997
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 10: here hearing you guys talking about John. But this was

1998
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 10: a momentousication. It really is. I think it's not stressed

1999
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 10: enough that this was something that never happened before. They

2000
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 10: hit for eighty years, and I think it's great. I

2001
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 10: think it's fantastic. Thum Us always a pleasure, And thank

2002
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 10: you guys, thanks for taking the time. Thank you, thank you.

2003
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 3: Richard.

2004
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 4: Appreciate the call. Yeah, And the last time they did

2005
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 4: it was against the then Chicago Cardinals in nineteen forty

2006
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 4: nine when they overcame a twenty one point win.

2007
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 3: Before that, it was a four years earlier gains the

2008
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles.

2009
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 4: So it's been quite a while. Eight seven seven three

2010
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 4: three seven sixty six sixty six. Let's go to Ralph

2011
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 4: and new Rochelle. He's been holding the longest. Ralph, what's up?

2012
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 12: What's up?

2013
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 25: Guys?

2014
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 10: How are you good?

2015
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 5: We're great?

2016
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 21: The last Carler.

2017
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Speaker 15: I agree with him. I've been a Giant Fins since

2018
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 15: the early sixties, and I thought the Washington Giant game

2019
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 15: in Yankee Stadium in nineteen seventy, I thought the Giants

2020
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 15: came back in the fourth quarter being down by twenty

2021
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 15: one points and winning that game thirty five thirty three.

2022
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 15: So I'm shocked just like that. Gentleman, is what do

2023
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 15: you have on to night's game, Ralph, Tonight's game?

2024
01:30:58,240 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean today's game sort part of it.

2025
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 15: Yeah, the mechanical of the game hasn't changed. It's blocking

2026
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 15: and tackling, and I think the Giants and that second

2027
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 15: half came out. They blocked well, they tackled well. Jones

2028
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 15: had a great game, the receivers had a great game.

2029
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 15: So that was a tremendous comeback, just like nineteen seventy

2030
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 15: against Washington. That's how I feel right now.

2031
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: That deficit was thirty three to fourteen.

2032
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 3: By the way, late in the third quarter, thirty three fourteen.

2033
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 5: They were down by nineteen nineteen.

2034
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 15: Right, and Ron Johnson had some game in that game,

2035
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 15: so he was the main reason. But listen, going forward,

2036
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 15: the offensive line, we got a hand hip. We gotta

2037
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 15: play San Francisco. Let's see how we come out. I

2038
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 15: know we had injuries. Hopefully Thomas comes back. Good news

2039
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 15: about Barkley, what you were talking about his ankle not

2040
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 15: being in a boot or anything. That is you know,

2041
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 15: I know what didn't come from the Giants. That is

2042
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 15: good news. And you guys do a great job during

2043
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 15: the week. I listened to you guys every night when

2044
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 15: I come home from work. I never get that call

2045
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 15: you and I tell a lot of Giants fans to

2046
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 15: listen to you guys because you guys are in the house.

2047
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 15: I don't listen to anybody else but you guys on

2048
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 15: the Giants.

2049
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 5: Thank you, Ralph.

2050
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Ralph, thanks for the call.

2051
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, if you folks want to check

2052
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 4: out this group were also joined by a Lance Meadow,

2053
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 4: Howard Cross, Madelin Burke. Big Book Kickoff Live is every

2054
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 4: weekday on Giants dot Com and the Giants App at

2055
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 4: twelve thirty. We'll be live at twelve thirty every day

2056
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 4: this week. Howro and I will be live from Arizona

2057
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 4: tomorrow at twelve thirty nine to thirty local time.

2058
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 3: So make sure you check that out. Well, you got

2059
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,520
Speaker 3: something quick, I want to go to your McKinney.

2060
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Sounds just Daniel Jones second half seventeen of twenty one

2061
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty nine yards and two touchdowns. Yeah,

2062
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: pretty good and he navigated and and a lot of

2063
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: the guys in the locker room talked about that.

2064
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: How he navigated this comeback, and he was the guy.

2065
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 2: Despite Hyat's providing the spark with the big plays, it

2066
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 2: was Jones's composure and poise in the huddle that made

2067
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: them feel like.

2068
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 4: They had a chance sail in that first half. Guys,

2069
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 4: my prediction of the Giants going for four bills on

2070
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 4: offense in the pregame, I wasn't feeling too good about it,

2071
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,879
Speaker 4: not gonna lie, But right now I'm feeling pretty.

2072
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 3: Good about it.

2073
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, I wanted to talk about just

2074
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 6: my you express my appreciation for fans like Ralph and Richard,

2075
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 6: who's been fans almost double my lifetime, you know. And

2076
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 6: I have a lot of pride, you know, when I

2077
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 6: wore that that Giants logo on the side of my

2078
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 6: head and on my chest when I played for New York,

2079
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 6: and it was always I always appreciate the fans. And

2080
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 6: you know, now that I'm doing BBKL, I'm doing postgame

2081
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 6: with you guys, I get to talk to them a

2082
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 6: lot more.

2083
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 5: And I'm just like, I was smiling the whole time.

2084
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 6: That Richard was talking because you can hear the excitement

2085
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 6: and the joy in his voice, you know, And I

2086
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 6: just I respect those guys so much. I appreciate those guys,

2087
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 6: and I mean that's why we all got jobs now, guys.

2088
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely wouldn't have those about the fans. And you

2089
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 4: guys have done a great job on the phones. By

2090
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: the way, after this game, thank you for chatting about

2091
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: the Giants with us. All Right, postgame locker, we've probably

2092
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 4: from a bunch of guys on offense. We have not

2093
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: heard from any defensive players yet. So Zavid McKinney did

2094
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 4: address the media in the locker room after the game.

2095
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 4: Let's take a listen to what he had to say

2096
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 4: after the Giants thirty one to twenty eight win.

2097
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 8: You know, we're gon we gonna get back to where

2098
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 8: we're gonna watch this film.

2099
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 30: Well, we're gonna watch the individual We got to move

2100
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 30: on to a quick week, but we're gonna have another

2101
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 30: great week of practice and then onto the next week.

2102
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 8: So you given, I know at half time you've said.

2103
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 13: Your piece in other games where things weren't going very well,

2104
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 13: loveless the mood in here at.

2105
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 30: Half time, how do you go from that?

2106
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 13: First? After that second half was hit a soft touch

2107
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 13: by guys like, hey, we can be better encouraging, said

2108
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 13: a riot act from guys.

2109
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 11: Like, it wasn't there a riot act.

2110
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 30: It was just more so we got to go out

2111
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 30: there and do what we preach. Obviously, you know, at

2112
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 30: a at a point, howkin can only get you so far.

2113
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 8: We'll have to actually go out there and execute. We

2114
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 8: go out there and play fast. Yeah, us out there

2115
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 8: and make plays. Those things will come. But you like,

2116
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 8: we didn't have a whole bunch of like ron Ross Beaches.

2117
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 13: There was houn a whole bunch of the opposite speed

2118
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 13: like riot ox speech.

2119
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 25: Now.

2120
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 10: Nah, we came in here.

2121
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 30: It was like we talked to each other like you know,

2122
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 30: internally on certain things, and then we went out there

2123
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 30: and we executed and had a better hand. So it

2124
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 30: wasn't that much different than the normal halftime you know.

2125
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 30: You know, like I said, it's only so much talking

2126
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 30: that's gonna do do for at a certain point.

2127
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 8: So we just had to go out there execute. We

2128
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 8: were able to once the offense started toying.

2129
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 13: Page sat stack became guys got a couple of stops

2130
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:40,520
Speaker 13: that you guys are day Yeah, sure almost became.

2131
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 8: Sure yeah, yeah, yeah.

2132
01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 30: I think defensively, you know, we always feel like, you know,

2133
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 30: we can get the stops from there needed and we

2134
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 30: were able to do that and the offense got going

2135
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 30: and uh definitely helped us out.

2136
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 8: And it was you know, it's a team, you know,

2137
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 8: it's complementary football.

2138
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 30: So everybody did depart everybody played a role in this

2139
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 30: winning and uh we're able.

2140
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:01,400
Speaker 8: To get it up. So it was good.

2141
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 31: I just missed it earlier, you know, six quarters football.

2142
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 31: For you guys, it's a similar struggle. When it actually clicked,

2143
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 31: it feel like it came easy to feel natural when

2144
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 31: you guys actually the second half just started to turn around.

2145
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 8: This league is never easy, nothing about it.

2146
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 5: Nothing about this win was easy.

2147
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 19: You know.

2148
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 30: It was a It was a hard, hard, tough win

2149
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 30: for us. You know, every every down mattered, every second

2150
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 30: on the clock mattered. You know, we couldn't really make

2151
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 30: any say, we didn't have room for mistakes, and uh

2152
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 30: it was self inflicted. I mean, we did it to

2153
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 30: ourselves and we're able to bounce back, but we gotta

2154
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 30: be a lot better.

2155
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 8: And I think the guys in his locker room know that.

2156
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 30: So we'll get back, you know, this week and prepare

2157
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 30: the right way and get ready for San France.

2158
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 19: And how do you do that?

2159
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 8: How do you get to a quick start, you got

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Speaker 8: a quick turn around and get ship. I just gotta

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Speaker 8: go out there and do it, you know. I think

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Speaker 8: it's that simple. It's not really, it's not rocket science.

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Speaker 30: You just gotta go out there and execute. You gotta

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Speaker 30: go out there and make plays, and that's it. So

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Speaker 30: we understand that, and you gotta be better.

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Speaker 3: Pete Hoffman there with a couple of questions for mister

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Speaker 3: McKinney after the game. JC, your thoughts on what zav

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Speaker 3: right to second?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, he talked about the ebb and

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Speaker 6: flow of the game, you know, like the spark that

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Speaker 6: that was caused from the offense, and you know, everybody

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01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 6: playing together and it's all about the details, right. So

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Speaker 6: Xavier McKinny definitely was on the opposite end of a

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Speaker 6: highlight that wasn't in the Giants favorite with doves kind

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Speaker 6: of running through him. But I think he had a

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Speaker 6: great right I think he had a great second half,

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Speaker 6: you know, And look, the Giant's gonna need every single

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Speaker 6: person that suits up to play to have success this year,

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Speaker 6: you know. And going on the road again two weeks

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Speaker 6: in a row on the West coast to San fran

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Speaker 6: they're gonna need Xavier McKinney to make that play and

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Speaker 6: go ahead and maybe tackle that get that ball out

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01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 6: when he makes that tackle, if that happens again, you know.

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Speaker 6: So look, I'm all about, you know, them playing complimentary football,

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Speaker 6: but I want to see a little bit more from

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Speaker 6: the defense. I want to I want the defense because

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Speaker 6: I think the defense right now and I'm looking around

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01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 6: the league, two fellas, I think because of the lack

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Speaker 6: of preseason games. I think offenses around the league are

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Speaker 6: just starting a little bit slower than they normally have

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Speaker 6: because the lack of continuity in the preseason, the lack

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Speaker 6: of plays that are put together from the first drink offense.

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Speaker 6: And then I think you're seeing that. You know, you

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Speaker 6: look at us, You look at teams like the Bengals,

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Speaker 6: like the guys are struggling offensively. I think because of

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Speaker 6: there's a lack of continuity and a lack of playing

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Speaker 6: together in preseason. But now the season's here, there's no

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Speaker 6: more excuses. So I'm expecting every single guy that is

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Speaker 6: getting paid for the Giants, especially our ballplayers, you know,

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01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 6: not always the paychecks, but our ballplayers. Dexa, Lawrence Okarak,

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Speaker 6: Javier McKinney, our best defenders. I expect them to have

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Speaker 6: big games coming up because that's what the Giants need.

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01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 6: You need your stars to play well. Xavier McKinney, I

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01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 6: expect them to have a great game against San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think too. We look at some of

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Speaker 4: the stats from around the league. Offensive lines specifically have

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Speaker 4: started a little bit slower this year. Around the league,

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Speaker 4: pressure rates and sacks were way up in Week one.

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Speaker 4: I have not looked at the numbers off of today's games,

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Speaker 4: but that certainly was the case off of Week one.

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Speaker 2: All right, fos, we got one more segment ago, we'll

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Speaker 2: come back. We have two calls on the line.

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Speaker 3: You've been holding. We will make sure we get to you,

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Speaker 3: Robbie and Steve, and we'll hear from Darius Slayton in

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Speaker 3: the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Get final thoughts heading into San Francisco when we come

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Speaker 4: back on Pepsi Giants Extra Point.

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Speaker 3: We had a couple more calls.

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Speaker 4: We have Darius Slayton downstairs, and then we'll look ahead

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Speaker 4: to Washington. Steve in Rockland is up first.

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Speaker 3: Steve, what's up?

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Speaker 17: Thanks for holding hey, perfect segue, Jonathan, you were touching

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Speaker 17: on it just now here is my question the way

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Speaker 17: the preseason is set up, okay, especially instead of cutting

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Speaker 17: the roster incrementally, where you're going from the full preseason

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Speaker 17: roster down to the active you know, the fifty three

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01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 17: man and the practice squad in one shot.

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Speaker 12: And just the way the first week has gone, the

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Speaker 12: first two weeks have.

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Speaker 10: Gone all right, How does anyone know?

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Speaker 17: And Paul and you know the guy was talking about

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Speaker 17: Caevon Thibodeaux and you guys, well we were close up,

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Speaker 17: we were closer than whatever. So unless you are have access,

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Speaker 17: or you're with the team or whatever, how does anyone

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Speaker 17: know in you know, coming out of the way the

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Speaker 17: preseason is structured what they have because as I was,

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Speaker 17: I have to say, I'm almost I'm not sure if

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Speaker 17: I'm more surprised at last week's.

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Speaker 25: Result than this week's result, because after you know, a summer.

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Speaker 12: Of hype or whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 17: I mean, the only time the Giants first team offense

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Speaker 17: was on the field, they look like world beaters and

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Speaker 17: who knows who who were they up against?

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Speaker 18: It?

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Speaker 17: How do you gauge?

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Speaker 10: How can you gauge it?

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01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 29: Now?

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Speaker 4: See look, look you can't, you can't correct you, you can't.

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Speaker 4: Preseason is a liar.

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Speaker 2: Preseason is a liar, and even to an extent, what

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Speaker 2: you see in practice every day is a liar because

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Speaker 2: you're not going full out in game situations. So we

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Speaker 2: sit here, we break everything down, we talk about it,

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Speaker 2: We get you the best information we can.

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Speaker 3: We try to put it in the proper context. We

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Speaker 3: have to go. So you want soil, we understand.

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Speaker 4: But in the end, you know, for the teams that

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Speaker 4: have stayed together, what they were the year before might

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Speaker 4: be a good sign. Like we all knew Dallas was

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Speaker 4: gonna be pretty good, right, we knew Philly was gonna

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Speaker 4: be pretty good.

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Speaker 3: We know that you know the the Chiefs are gonna

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Speaker 3: be pretty good.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: So it's very hard to go and Steve thanks to

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Speaker 4: the call on preseason performance JC And as someone that

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Speaker 4: played in the preseason going into the regular season, I

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Speaker 4: heard you trying to jump in there. I didn't mean

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Speaker 4: to cut you off. I apologize. Just talk about for

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Speaker 4: a player, whether or not you can even like use

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Speaker 4: what happens in preseason to give you an idea of

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Speaker 4: what the regular season is gonna look like.

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Speaker 5: No, not at all.

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Speaker 6: It's preseason is practice, extended practices. These are scrimmage games, right.

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Speaker 6: And the Giants there one offensive drive that was against backups.

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Speaker 6: If I'm not mistaken, I don't even know if that

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Speaker 6: was against the first team of whoever they were playing.

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Speaker 5: Is correct, right?

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Speaker 3: The backs of the Lions, correct, right?

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Speaker 5: And this is the thing.

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Speaker 6: You play against Dallas. There is no one, no one

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Speaker 6: that you're gonna see in the second team anywhere. That's

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Speaker 6: compared to anybody on that the front that any side

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Speaker 6: of the offensively, defensively, you're not going.

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Speaker 5: To see those guys.

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Speaker 6: So all it is is practice and and for me

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Speaker 6: personally as a football player, I try to get in

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Speaker 6: shape before training camp, so when I get into training camp,

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Speaker 6: I'm just worried about x's and o's learning the guys

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Speaker 6: in front of me. I remember when we got Damon

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01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 6: Snacks Harrison. I had to learn to play with Snacks.

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Speaker 6: Even though he was a dominant player when he was healthy,

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Speaker 6: I had to learn how to play with him. He

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Speaker 6: would do things differently than than other dtackles, right, So

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Speaker 6: that's a growing thing that's going to happen as you

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Speaker 6: progress during the season. But I'm with I'm with with

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Speaker 6: everybody else. We're all seeing we all saw the first

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Speaker 6: six quarters of the Giants and it was not good football,

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Speaker 6: you know, And it's hard to replicate that in training camp.

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Speaker 6: It's hard to replicate that in preseason because of all

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Speaker 6: of the things that we just mentioned, and the the

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Speaker 6: temperature gets turned up. Everybody gets turned up more in

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Speaker 6: the regular season, just like when you hit the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: It's another level that people turn up. It's a it's

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Speaker 6: another another level of intensity. This speed is increased even

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Speaker 6: though guys bodies are beat up, you know, and they

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01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 6: they have ailments and attrition has set in for every

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Speaker 6: single team in the NFL. That's when it turns up,

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Speaker 6: and there's no way to prepare or to actually make

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Speaker 6: a prediction of how your team's going to be based

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Speaker 6: off a preseason I remember back in the day when

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Speaker 6: Peyton Manning they were winning thirteen fourteen games a year

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Speaker 6: and they could never win a preseason game. Remember that, guys,

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01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 6: it was never it was never a prediction of how

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Speaker 6: you were gonna do during the year. But it's a

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Speaker 6: great way to get guys, you know, knock the rust

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Speaker 6: off of guys, you know, make sure that guys are

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Speaker 6: in shape, and make sure that guys are playing together.

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Speaker 6: And that's the start. But it builds as the season progresses.

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Speaker 6: And I just hope that as the season does progress

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Speaker 6: along that it looks more like the last two quarters

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Speaker 6: we've seen and not like the first six quarters.

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Speaker 4: And Paul, I want to get to the next call.

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01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 4: I'll get to Darius Slayton downstairs as well. But I

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01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 4: think the funny thing now is we're sitting here after

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Speaker 4: two games. Do we know who the Giants are right now?

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Speaker 7: No?

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01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 4: Are they the six first six quarter Giants? Are they

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01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 4: the last two quarter Giants? And by the way, now

2345
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 4: you're playing one of the five most talented teams in

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01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,719
Speaker 4: football on a short week in their building. We're probably

2347
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 4: not gonna after Thursday night exactly what this Giants team

2348
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 4: is because of just the the especially if a guy

2349
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 4: like Andrew Thomas or Saquan can't go to your best

2350
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 4: players and we'll see it what their health is during

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01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 4: the week, We're still gonna be part of a mystery

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01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,799
Speaker 4: until you come home off that long week against Seattle

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01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,799
Speaker 4: and then a couple of row games against Buffalo Miami

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01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 4: to really figuring out exactly what this team is. I'm

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01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 4: still I'm not gonna say I'm at a loss, but

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01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 4: it's just been so up and down it's hard to

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01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 4: put your finger on it.

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Speaker 2: The specific situation as well as the logistics are forcing

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01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 2: the Giants to climb uphill right now. So you are correct,

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Speaker 2: I don't think we can get a true accurate gauge

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Speaker 2: on this team no matter what happens in San Francisco

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01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:39,639
Speaker 2: on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you because I don't think any of

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01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 4: us believe and you guys can. They're gonna be underdogs,

2365
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 4: and you guys can chip in if you want. No

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01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 4: one thinks this team is as bad as the way

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Speaker 4: they play in the first six quarters of the year.

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Speaker 4: But they're also not gonna put up three Jill yards

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Speaker 4: of offense.

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Speaker 3: And a half and they straight touchdowns. Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Scoring thirty one points and a half is very very difficult.

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01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 2: I mean it's very very hard to do.

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Speaker 4: So I think we're still learning about this team, and

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Speaker 4: that's the beauty of the NFL. Right September ye, as

2375
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 4: Sean Ohra calls it, it's sloppy September, right, and then

2376
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 4: you try to figure out as you gets to October

2377
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 4: what this team really.

2378
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 5: Is in history.

2379
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 6: Like the guy from Richard, the guy that call earlier,

2380
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 6: he talked about, you know, the Giants haven't came back

2381
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 6: from a twenty point deficit in eight.

2382
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 5: Years, Like that's kind of how the Giants are.

2383
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 6: You know the Giants are if they get behind, you

2384
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 6: know it be they get behind a lot of it

2385
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,120
Speaker 6: to be a struggle for them to catch back up.

2386
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 6: And you know, and also if they get the leader

2387
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 6: to be a struggle for the other team catch up

2388
01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 6: because they're led by their offensive line and their run

2389
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 6: game that's historical, and then also their defense and their

2390
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 6: defensive line. Right, and we're not afforded to have a

2391
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes who can come back from twenty points down

2392
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 6: three four.

2393
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 5: Five hours a year.

2394
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 6: It has, It happens all the time with those guys,

2395
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 6: you know what, we just haven't had that. Yeah, I

2396
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 6: want to say luck, but we haven't been in situations

2397
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 6: like that, you know. So the Giants right now is

2398
01:47:58,120 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 6: a mixture of what we saw in the first six

2399
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 6: orders and what we saw in the last two quarters

2400
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 6: of the first two games.

2401
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 5: It's a mixture of that.

2402
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 6: And I just hope that you know, say Kwan comes

2403
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 6: out okay, Andrew Thomas comes back, you know, relatively soon,

2404
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 6: and then we can actually figure out what this team

2405
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 6: is like in about a month. I think in about

2406
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 6: a month after you know, five six games is in

2407
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 6: the tank, we log those games in. I think that's

2408
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 6: gonna be the when the Giant starts showing their true

2409
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 6: identity and who they really are.

2410
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 4: This year eight seven seven three three seven sixty six

2411
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 4: sixty six before we get to our final call. Pall

2412
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 4: Thetino on a chance to talk to Darius Slayton after

2413
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 4: the game downstairs, Let's listen in.

2414
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 30: Slay was there a moment in that second half where

2415
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 30: you started to believe in and say, you know what.

2416
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 8: We are to get this done? Shoot?

2417
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 5: It came out of the tunnel.

2418
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 3: We had the ball first.

2419
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 32: You know, it's like as an offense, like you gotta

2420
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 32: start believing right there because it's important to go down

2421
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 32: there and get a touchdown. And you know, I think

2422
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 32: we did score right out a half, right, and we

2423
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 32: went down and got a touchdown, and then at that

2424
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 32: point it's like, okay, we gotta win a momentum and

2425
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 32: defense gotta stop. And then from there you're just putting

2426
01:48:57,520 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 32: points up the point where.

2427
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 20: You feel like Oranges game chamber.

2428
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 32: Yeah, like I said, we came out of half, we

2429
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 32: got that first touchdown, It's like, all right, it's kind

2430
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 32: of like you know in basketball and they said getting

2431
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 32: the lid off the rim, It's like, all right, we

2432
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 32: got in the end zone and now it's time to go.

2433
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: What changed though, Darius? While the first half just wasn't

2434
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 2: like the way you wanted it to be, and then

2435
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 2: it just clicked.

2436
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 32: I think we just were missing little things just here

2437
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 32: and there, like little little stuff in the run game,

2438
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 32: little stuff in the past game that in the second

2439
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 32: half we we got going. And then obviously, you know,

2440
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 32: Jalen did a good job of getting us gone, had

2441
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 32: the first big bomb.

2442
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 11: He made two big plays on the field.

2443
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 32: Actually, that helps a lot, driving the ball and h

2444
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 32: you know, I think that those two things helped us

2445
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 32: out a lot.

2446
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly what Barkley's injury is, but on

2447
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 2: the last drive he wound up grinding at something like

2448
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 2: thirty yards to chase you guys in field goal range,

2449
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 2: and of course you caught the mast that got the

2450
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 2: offense over the fifty very very critical spots.

2451
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2452
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 11: I mean, that was a heck of a run by

2453
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 11: Sae Kwan. And he's a special player.

2454
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 32: He showed it on that but I don't know, he

2455
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 32: broke five to six tackles something like that, and you know,

2456
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 32: got us down there.

2457
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 11: And you know, that's why we love him. He got

2458
01:49:58,439 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 11: from God. He's on this team.

2459
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 3: You ever been part of a comeback like this twenty

2460
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 3: one points down quarters?

2461
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 32: Yeah, I was just telling him about sure, man, I

2462
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 32: don't know if I ever heard been a twenty zero

2463
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 32: comeback ever, so that probably was the first one.

2464
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 11: Congratulations, appreciate that.

2465
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they haven't many of them, so it's always good

2466
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 4: to see the Giants making that type of run. Eight

2467
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 4: seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six. Let's

2468
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 4: go to our final call of the program. Robbie is

2469
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 4: in Lenox. Robbie, what do you got?

2470
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 26: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call with an amazing comeback.

2471
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 26: You know, my first Giant game was nineteen seventy two.

2472
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 26: Interestingly enough, they played the AFC East that year with

2473
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 26: the Domplins. Yeah, a couple of things, well, you know,

2474
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 26: you guys were talking about the defensive funds a bit

2475
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 26: until point Lard Williams seems to be in visible at times.

2476
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 26: I'm just wondering, can they stunt land wings a little

2477
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 26: bit more, move them around, maybe move Tibodeau around, and

2478
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 26: also too, like I was looking at the the wave,

2479
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 26: the linebackers are set in the defensive scheme like a

2480
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 26: lot of times it looks like the linebackers are pushed

2481
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 26: back too far behind the defensive fund.

2482
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 12: I was just wondering, what does wing do?

2483
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 8: Like?

2484
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 26: Why did they play more of a traditional you know,

2485
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 26: the front. We have the three and they have three

2486
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 26: line parkers. They play that three four, and I think

2487
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 26: sometimes I don't know, I'd like to see them have

2488
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 26: had more pressure up front. But you know, my first

2489
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 26: game was nineteen seventy two. I've been a Giant fan

2490
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 26: a long time and this was an amazing comeback because

2491
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 26: I was ready. I was like my girlfriends. I was

2492
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 26: ready to hear, like Marv Albert, I was taking my

2493
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:15,719
Speaker 26: stup balls time, guys.

2494
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 12: That's that was ready to hear.

2495
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 26: So like the last you know, the last half was

2496
01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 26: tell them mad I said, you know, when he was

2497
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 26: picking up the fund and said, man, I can't sit

2498
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 26: through this, and I just don't understand what happened. Maybe

2499
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 26: they just started playing with the eye of the tiger.

2500
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 26: But you know what, we don't know what this team is.

2501
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 26: And people have to realize something. I said this. I

2502
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 26: do a radio program up here, and I said this

2503
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:32,680
Speaker 26: a couple of weeks ago. This is the second year

2504
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 26: of rebuild. People have to understand a lot of young players.

2505
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 26: If you've turned over the roster last year, and let's

2506
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 26: you know, the Giants had a very easy schedule last

2507
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 26: year they did. I mean they came back in games.

2508
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 26: You know, they held the rings on Daniel Jones a lot.

2509
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 26: You know, he didn't have a lot of turnovers. They

2510
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 26: a lot a touchdown. So so again the second year

2511
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 26: of a rebuild, he got a lot of players, but

2512
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 26: I'd like to see them stunk to it a little

2513
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 26: bit more use them and so I use them out

2514
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 26: too and more. Do you think about that? And guys,

2515
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 26: you did a great job. I really liked the new

2516
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 26: segments and taking the phone calls everything. So I appreciated

2517
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 26: the caller for thirty six years to the fan, I

2518
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,679
Speaker 26: really appreciate what you guys do. So thanks again. And yeah,

2519
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 26: San Francisco's are going to be tough, but we really

2520
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 26: don't know, like Jonathan's right, we really don't know what

2521
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 26: this team is yet. But I'd like to see the

2522
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 26: Giants become more more powerful in the trenches because let's

2523
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 26: face it, Dallas, the Eagles, you know San Francisco, those

2524
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 26: teams are built with offensive the defensive lines being being stronger,

2525
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:21,799
Speaker 26: and that's what the Giants seats.

2526
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 12: To really improve. So so we'll see.

2527
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 26: But like I said, the second year of a rebuilding

2528
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 26: organization and you know right now that was that was

2529
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 26: like that was a gut check win and it was

2530
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 26: a big win because, let's face it, guys, you know,

2531
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 26: in to San Francisco and losing your own free going

2532
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 26: home again the Gallons yawnel one today on the road,

2533
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 26: so you know, you never know, told them predictable the

2534
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 26: assl at this point. And by the way, I wanted

2535
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 26: to ask about one team maybe you can comment for

2536
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 26: how how pathetic or the San Diego Slash LA Chargers

2537
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:45,919
Speaker 26: you talk about all playing the all talent.

2538
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 10: And no brain.

2539
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 26: I mean that's my second favorite team. And how playing

2540
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 26: in scale it keeps his job?

2541
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 12: I will never know.

2542
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 26: So thanks for the time, guys, appreciate it. Let's just

2543
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 26: get your comments and maybe about Timbodeau and Leonard Williams.

2544
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 26: So thanks to gain.

2545
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: Thanks again, thank you, Robbie. Appreciate the call.

2546
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 4: Jac Why don't you take the question on the defense

2547
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 4: in terms of the linebacker using the guys up front.

2548
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, the guys don't matter where you're drafted.

2549
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 6: We talked about that. It don't matter how much money

2550
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 6: you're getting played paid. When you're playing, you need to

2551
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 6: be productive.

2552
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 5: That's just it.

2553
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 31: You know.

2554
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 6: That's why I think we understand how good Aziz Ojilai

2555
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 6: is because whenever he's in the game, he impacts the game.

2556
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,879
Speaker 6: He could play twenty snaps, he's gonna have five pressures,

2557
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 6: you know.

2558
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, the Giants you right about that.

2559
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 6: A lot more guys like that, you know, Like you

2560
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 6: know Leonard Williams, I haven't really heard his name too

2561
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 6: much in two weeks.

2562
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, JC, I want to jump in on that.

2563
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 4: I really thought they had an advantage against Elijah Wilkinson,

2564
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: the left guard for Arizona. He did not play well

2565
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 4: in Week one, and I thought this could have been

2566
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 4: a big Leonard Williams game.

2567
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:44,560
Speaker 19: You know.

2568
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 4: You mentioned Thibodaw with zero's in the box score. At

2569
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,599
Speaker 4: least he had one quarterback pressure. Leonard Williams didn't even

2570
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 4: show up.

2571
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 5: He's not on there. Yeah, but they see.

2572
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 6: The thing is when the Giants, in order for them

2573
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 6: to take a next step, and we talk about closing

2574
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 6: the gap with the two power houses in the NFC

2575
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 6: East and the Eagles and the Cowboys, the defensive line

2576
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 6: is the one that helped close that gap. The Giants

2577
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 6: need for these guys to play well, they have to

2578
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 6: the Giants will not be the team they want to

2579
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 6: be if it continues with Dex Lawrence only showing up

2580
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 6: a couple times and not being a dominant player like

2581
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 6: we know he is, Leonard Williams not even showing up,

2582
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 6: and Kayvon Thibodaux only showing up once on the stat sheet.

2583
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 6: These are your best players and they need to show up.

2584
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 6: And this is when you talk about physicality, when you

2585
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 6: talk about stopping the run and establishing dominance, it starts

2586
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 6: with those guys, and the Giants need more from them.

2587
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 4: And I'll just yeah, I look, I think you hit it.

2588
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 4: I think you just need more guys to make plays

2589
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 4: on defense. You're gonna need it against the San Francisco

2590
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers on Thursday night. So give me your

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01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 4: final thoughts. Jac Let's start with you Giants forty nine ers.

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01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 4: We know we got to worry about Saquon Barkley and

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 4: Andrew Thomas over the course of the league. Ben brettis

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01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 4: and by the way, with the concussion as well, we

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01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 4: have to keep an eye on that over the course

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01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 4: of the week. Your thoughts. San Francisco did win, and

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01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 4: only a one score game over the Rams. The Rams

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01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 4: dore a nice job of hanging tough. Earlier in this year,

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01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 4: they're one and one. They played pretty well, but the

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01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 4: forty nine ers are two to zero and a short

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01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 4: week in their building. JC, What do you be thinking

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01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 4: about and paying attention to as we go along this week?

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01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, it's gonna be a short week. They

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 6: might have one practice, probably a whole bunch of walkthroughs.

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01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 6: If they do have a practice, probably no pads the

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 6: entire time. And I know they're out in Arizona for

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01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 6: the remainder of the week until they go to San

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01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 6: fran on Wednesday. If I'm not mistaken, Look, just allow

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01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 6: this game. You know you're gonna have to forget about it,

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01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 6: but allow the feeling to exist. Allow that feeling to

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01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 6: exist of okay, we played a great game in the

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01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 6: second half, a great half of football. Allow that feeling

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01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 6: to exist, of the preparation that it took, the blood,

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01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 6: sweat and tears that you had to sacrifice to go

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01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 6: ahead and accomplish that, and then the way that defensively

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01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 6: that they played, in offensively that they played, it wasn't

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 6: mistake free, but there was fight. There was fight, There

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01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 6: was toughness, you know, there was playing to the end

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01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 6: of the whistle, and that's something that the Giants haven't

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01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 6: shown in the first six quarters of this season. So

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01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 6: allow the momentum of this game to carry into the

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01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 6: second game, you know. And of course you got to

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01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 6: forget about it and you gotta do all that, But

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 6: the feeling of greatness and the feeling of being a

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01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 6: victor should still be present when the guys show up

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Speaker 6: on Thursday in San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Paul, how about you.

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01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 2: I have one positive and one negative that I want

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01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 2: to take from this game, and I'll be interested to

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01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 2: see how these things developed further on Thursday.

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 3: The negative, we'll start there.

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01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 2: James Connor finished with twenty three carries for one hundred

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01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 2: and six yards till long of twenty two.

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01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 4: You took the words out of my mouth though about

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01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 4: the pass rush. You gotta stop the run better.

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01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I said up pregame, play bullyball and put the

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01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 2: Cardinals away.

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01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Well that's what the Cardinals did.

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01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 2: That's exactly what Arizona did. They played bullyball, especially on

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01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 2: offense against the Giants. Connor had thirteen carries for fifty

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01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 2: yards in the first half and then finished with twenty

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01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: three for one oh six. The Cardinals ran for one

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one on the day, five point two

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 2: yard average, nineteen carries for ninety five yards in the

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01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 2: first half when they set the tone and Connor wasn't

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 2: getting easy yards. Now, they'll get me wrong, they were

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 2: holes from the go through, but he was also putting

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: his shoulder down and running into guys who many mistackles

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 2: and running through guys. It was bullyball by James Connor.

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01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 2: That should not happen to this Giants defense, especially to

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 2: this front seven. That's got to be something that should

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01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 2: really make them angry. And then the positive thing that

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01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to, how about these rookie corners.

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01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: How about the fact that today, even though the Cardinals

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01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: were twenty what was it twenty say year, twenty one

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01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 2: out of thirty one passing for Dobbs, do you know, John,

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01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 2: the longest pass completion was only twenty three yards to

2658
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 2: the tight end McBride. And that wasn't on the rookie corners.

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01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 2: These rookie corners have not been getting beat deep over

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01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 2: the top. They just have not been doing it. And

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01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 2: that's really cool to see after only two weeks. Guys,

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01:58:22,920 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 2: this was fun We'll see you on Thursday night.

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Speaker 25: You got it.

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01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 4: Coverage of our game on Thursday night is right here

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Speaker 4: on the Fans starting at six twenty five.

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Speaker 4: We get ready for that game, the Giants visiting San

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01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 4: Francisco against the forty nine Ers. I will be out

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Speaker 4: here in ten b all week with Paul Detino. Jc'll

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01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 4: be angering things back in New York. Stay tuned the

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01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 4: Giants dot Com. The Giants will blaff for coverage of

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01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,000
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01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 4: to take on the forty nine Ers on Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: Giants come into Arizona, overcome a twenty one point fourth

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Speaker 4: quarter deficode courter third quarter deficit tourned me, and they

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01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 4: come back and they defeat the Arizona Cardinals thirty one

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Speaker 4: to twenty. For Paul Tatino, For Jonathan can see us

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Speaker 4: and our entire crew. I am John Schmick.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you on Thursday night from San Francisco