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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by t I A. A. Bank, JP Shatrick With you

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Speaker 1: and this is our weekly look at the best of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars broadcasting and digital shows from the past week,

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Speaker 1: including this week Dave Caldwell and Doug Maron discussing character

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Caleb and Chason chatting on Instagram Live,

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Speaker 1: Auburn head coached Gus Malson explaining the recruitment of Daniel Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and much much more. Let's begin with our annual Draft

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Speaker 1: recap show, presented by Florida Blue. It aired Sunday on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars social media channels and included a full recap

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Speaker 1: of the entire draft class with John Osan, Brian Sexton,

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Speaker 1: and me. But it also included Ashland Sullivan's great one

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Speaker 1: on one visits immediately after the draft with g M

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Speaker 1: Dave Caldwell and head coach Doug Maron. The Jaguars feel

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Speaker 1: like they got better over the course of the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: not only on the field, what outside the building as well.

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Speaker 1: It seems like every single pick I talked he was

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Speaker 1: either a team captain, a boy scout, something great off

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Speaker 1: the field. So it's obviously that character was a huge

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Speaker 1: emphasis in this draft. Is it even more so than

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Speaker 1: we think? Well, it always is, uh, And and there's

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Speaker 1: always a risk reward and when you know the players

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Speaker 1: like that too. So we just felt really good about

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Speaker 1: the skill set of the players, but also like their

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Speaker 1: makeup and that's important for us, and that's important as

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Speaker 1: we go for it. And this is a big foundation

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Speaker 1: building piece for this organization and twelve picks and uh,

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Speaker 1: in good football players. So I don't want people, you know,

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Speaker 1: just got a great match of these twelve players, of

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Speaker 1: a match of you know, really good talent, really good

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Speaker 1: potential and also obviously come from good foundations and good

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Speaker 1: character and you know, really not a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuff going around around him except football. The

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Speaker 1: full show archive available now on Jaguars dot com. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of character, Josh Allen has it and is one all

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Speaker 1: at the same time. The defensive end and linebacker is

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Speaker 1: entering his second NFL season after going to the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: in the first round out of Kentucky back in defensive

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Speaker 1: end and linebacker. Caleb and Chason from l s U

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Speaker 1: caught up on an Instagram live conversation that should scare

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Speaker 1: any offensive tackle listening. I broke ten last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, as soon as it's fall

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Speaker 1: in line. So as soon we got you, I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got another one, Like we bring it. We had

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Speaker 1: a great history out here. Broame just going here. This

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Speaker 1: But like I was telling people that I was telling,

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Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like how from I

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Speaker 1: would meet and you like what last year or two

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Speaker 1: even before we met I used to watch your stuff,

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Speaker 1: so Bro, Bro really nice. Used to talk about the

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Speaker 1: LSU in the room, like yeah, he really cold. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I still feel like you didn't

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Speaker 1: Like when this hit, I was like a couple of rooms.

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Speaker 1: You know, a little money draft, you can't really pay attention.

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Speaker 1: But I like, Bro, even in a mine, dropping on

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Speaker 1: then there's really no there's no way you can handle

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, when you was like, uh,

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Speaker 1: But I felt like I was that same way. But

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Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna learn from you good stuff from

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Speaker 1: those two guys. Alan and Chase sign Put those two

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Speaker 1: within got way and you might have something special on defense.

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Speaker 1: The draft experience this year was different than any other before,

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Speaker 1: and there might not be much like it in the future.

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Speaker 1: Ashlan Sullivan caught up with cornerback c J. Henderson, the

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Speaker 1: it felt un draft night with all the changes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was crazy, and I was actually upset a little

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Speaker 1: name called. But it's still once in a lifetime moment

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of and I'm still very thankful I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you know the rest of the prospects in our class

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Speaker 1: mature guys in our class, so I'm sure they're handling

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Speaker 1: it the same way. More Instagram Live audio coming up

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. That was a nice addition to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com coverage this year. Now to our Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Draft Daily podcast presented by your local Ford Dealers. This

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Speaker 1: was a daily recap of what happened for the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: in the draft that day. On Saturday. After it was

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Speaker 1: all said and done, Ashwan John Brian and I gazed

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Speaker 1: into the future. Who will be at the end of

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Speaker 1: overall out of this draft class Ashwood go for. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gotta be Colin Johnson. I think he stands

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Speaker 1: haven't seen around here in a while. The physicality, the

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Speaker 1: it's hard to argue with Chanel because he would have

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Speaker 1: A Bank. We roll along to the loveliest village on

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Speaker 1: the planes, Auburn, Alabama. The Jaguars selected safety d Annual

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Speaker 1: Thomas from Auburn in the fifth round, one of six

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Speaker 1: Auburn players drafted this year, four of those from a

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Speaker 1: John and Brian dig into the ozone mail bag for

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