1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: My guest today is Ari Ackerman. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Ari is a successful serial entrepreneur, one of my favorite apps, 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Bunk one among them, a philanthropist, owner of the Miami Marlins, 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: and a powerful social media influencer, which is how I 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: first got to. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: See his work and learn about him. So nice to 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: have you on, Ari. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 3: Thank you, Carol. 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 4: Pleasure to be here. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: So I have to start with Bunk one because Bunk 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: one really revolutionized the way parents communicate with their kids 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: at sleep away camp. And for those who don't know, 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: it's really an essential app. I used it all summer 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: long while my kids were away. What's the story behind it? 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Was it your idea or were you an investor? How 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: did it come to be? 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: Now, it was my idea started from scratch, one of 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: those great entrepreneurial stories. I was ground your business school 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 4: at Northwestern and I literally wrote a business plan for 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: a private equity class. And I'll make the story short, 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 4: but we had a presentation to the Chicago based venture 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: capitalists back a long time ago, and the idea was 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: they were going to fund the company right, they were 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: going to make sure they told me how brilliant I 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: was and everything was gonna be great. They told me 27 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: it was the worst idea ever had ever heard in 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 4: their entire live true story, and I'd be doing I 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 4: remember this line, I'd be doing a disservice to myself 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: and my school if I started bunk one. So I 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: got really drunk that day and I went to the 32 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: Cubs game and sat in the bleachers and Wrigley Field. 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 3: If you ever done that, it's a great experience, and. 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: Realized that this was something I wanted to do. And 35 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 4: literally a week later, we had graduated from Northwestern from 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: calagg and I was in my car driving around the country, 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: visiting camps and just pitching the idea, which was essentially 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: making my first introductions into the world, making my first friends, 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: and they became my first clients. And literally a year 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 4: and a half later, I was live on CNN my 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: idea to the you know, because it already had blown up. 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: Because parents, as you know very well, when their kids 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: are away at camp, they live for those pictures. And 44 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: that's where Bunk one introduced into the world. We introduced 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: this idea of staying connected in a one way window 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: to your child when they're away at camp for the 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: first time, and then sending those bunknes the emails in 48 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: printed out for the kids, and it became a great 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: company that I ran for about eighteen years. 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: It's brilliant and it's so obvious. But you didn't have 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: kids when you started this, did you? 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: Definitely not as. 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: A young guy. 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: How did you, like, where do you come up with that? 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: Like? 56 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: I understand if you're a. 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Parent, you're like, oh, I wish there was something for 58 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: me to communicate with my kids to sleep away camp. 59 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: But if you're not even a parent, where did this 60 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: come from? 61 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: I was raised by Jewish mom. 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: This is the most obvious idea of all time for 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: Jewish kids like that, As you know, we would do 64 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: anything for our children. Now that I do have children, 65 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: and I kind of knew that, and I loved summer camp. 66 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: So I always wanted to be an entrepreneur. And then 67 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 4: when I was in graduate school, I'm like, wait, there's 68 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: no technology yet in summer camps. I can be that 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: guy that brings technology into the camp business. Because they 70 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: didn't want to do it on their own, they couldn't 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: afford to do it on their own. Incidentally, as well, 72 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: it was a mom and pop type of industry. So 73 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: here I was this guy driving around the country as 74 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 4: I described, pitching this idea of bringing technology into camps, 75 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: and it was, you know, almost immediately well received. Once 76 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: they realized who I was, they made that personal connection. 77 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: And that first summer when we had about fifty camps 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: using the online photo gallery, Missus Cohen told mister Shapiro 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: the pictures of beautiful David and you know, Rachel and 80 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: all the people, and then we blew up almost the 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: second year like so smart camps right away. 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really brilliant. So why the Marlins? How did 83 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: that happen? 84 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, So I ran bunk one for about seventeen 85 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: years and I ended up selling the company in twenty seventeen. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: And very soon after I got a call actually from 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: a guy I went to business school with in Chicago 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: Northwestern said, Ari, I had this I have this business 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: I think you'd be interested in. I got a lot 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: of press on the sale. There was money there, and 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: he said, this is something I think you don't want 92 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: to do. He knew I love baseball. I was a 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: Yankee fan as well. I know Carol you were Well, 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: I call myself kind of a former Yankee fan, you know. 95 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: But okay, okay, and you know, and the guy who 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: was putting our group together was a gentleman named Derek Jeter. Yes, 97 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: that's very you know, it's something. It's interesting as well, 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: all right. Manager by the way at the time was 99 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: Don Mattingly, So there were a lot of Yankee connections 100 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 4: to the Marlins as well. But for me, I didn't 101 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: know this was even a possibility in my life. I 102 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: didn't know this was something that was going to take place. 103 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 4: Like you asked about the Yankees before, I couldn't afford 104 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: the Yankees. 105 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that, all. 106 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Right, maybe you know, maybe we'll own both eventually. You 107 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: can't do that, actually, oh you can't. 108 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Oh interesting, only on one team at a time, but 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: even as a minority player. But but yeah, So it 110 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 4: was just an incredible opportunity. Obviously it was a financial, 111 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: major financial investment. So it was like, Hi, I'm in 112 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 4: you know, right. It was a deal that I looked 113 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: at that I also believed in the numbers that I 114 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: thought it had a promise as a business in and 115 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: of itself. But then the attraction of baseball and even 116 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: the city of Miami which I love so much, made 117 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: it even more attractive to be part of this group 118 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: to buy the Marlins. 119 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: So I first learned of who you are because of 120 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: your Instagram. 121 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Videos, and you're very. 122 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Outspoken on a lot of things, but especially on Israel 123 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: or Jewish issues in America. And you know, there are 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people who came to that after October seventh. 125 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: But as I was researching you for this interview, your 126 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: activism didn't start on October seventh. You were pretty into 127 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: it well before that. 128 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? 129 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always been a very loud and proud Jew. 130 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: I did even though I was speaking before October seventh, 131 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, in front of the Chancellor of Quni, who 132 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: let a graduation speaker go in you very antisemitic, and 133 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: we were out there yelling and not in it, you know, 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: very four and very controlled the way that this was 135 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: outrageous and unacceptable and this is Jewish hate trade and 136 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: stuff like that. What changed though for me October seventh 137 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: is you just described as my Instagram though I wasn't. 138 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know what a reel was R E L 139 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 4: on Instagram before about sixteen months ago. Somebody said to me, 140 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: if you're doing all these speeches, you're reaching three four 141 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: hundred people. You should be doing reels on Instagram. I'm like, 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: what's real? And I mean, you know, I used to 143 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: post these pictures that you scroll through, and then I 144 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 4: started doing these reels, and you know, you reach five 145 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: hundred people in the first second, you know, a thousand, 146 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: two thousand, ten thousand people in the first few minutes. 147 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: And so it was a way to reach a wider 148 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: audience with a message I wanted to communicate that I 149 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: think is a very very important message, especially in this 150 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: date age. 151 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: And and my. 152 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 4: My reels became more and more popular, and you know, 153 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: the last month, I had five million views on my Instagram, 154 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: and you know, so I'm very proud that the message 155 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: is getting out there. And I'm doing at least my 156 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: part because I'll say this, you know, and your very 157 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: friendly thought podcast, but we're in the fight for the 158 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: survival of our of our people right now. I don't 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: even say that lightly. I say that often and I 160 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: really truly believe it, and it gets worse every day 161 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: all or not even just in this country, but really 162 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: all around the world. 163 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: So what made you get into this kind of activism? 164 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: You could have taken a safe route and gotten into 165 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: like climate change, hunger, you know, just you could you 166 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: could have done something one of the philanthropist things that 167 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: some people do, where you're not going to be attacked, 168 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to have hateful comments, You're you're going 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: to have an easy time of it. 170 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: So what made you choose this? 171 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 172 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, there are a lot of important issues 173 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: in this world that you described, a few climate chains 174 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: and you know, poverty, all the things that we all 175 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 4: should be fighting against. But for me, I have in 176 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: my heart and so a very strong connection to Zionism 177 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: and to my Jewishness. I was raised by my mom, 178 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: who I lost about twelve years ago, who just instilled 179 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: in me and my sister this incredible Jewish values of 180 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: standing up for our community and always being a strong Jew. 181 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: And my grandfather, who is really a legend amongst the 182 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: Jewish community, literally a founder of the State of Israel, 183 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: and really my mentor, who really showed us how to 184 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: give and give again and give even more and always 185 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: be a proud Zionist and a proud Jew. So it 186 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 4: was always in me to do this. It's always a 187 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: very very important piece of who I am, and now 188 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: that I have two young children, five and three, I 189 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 4: worry for their future. And so people say to me, 190 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: you don't have to do this. I hear that a lot, 191 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: but I do have to do this. I don't understand 192 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: why more people aren't doing this. We're fighting. We're fighting 193 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: for our future. If you have children, or you don't 194 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: have children, but if you do, you understand the connection 195 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: you have to them, and you want to make sure 196 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: they can live in a world that's safe for them. 197 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 4: And it's a very precarious situation for them as a 198 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: Jewish child right now, that's even going to be a 199 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: world that's going to be here when they grow up. 200 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: You know, I want to make sure they can wear Yamica. 201 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: We're not religious, but. 202 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: They can wear Yamaica what they want. They can wear a. 203 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: Jewish star around their neck, they can celebrate Shabbat, they 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: can be proud Jews. And that's what I fight for 205 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: every day. 206 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: So there's always these polling numbers that show that Jewish 207 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: youth is even moving away from Israel, you know, not 208 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: in huge numbers, but the headlines are always very sensationalist. 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: How do you kind of maintain in your home, or 210 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: how are you teaching your kids to follow in your footsteps. 211 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: I know they're quite young, so maybe not quite yet. 212 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm worry about it all the time. 213 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: I have a fifteen, twelve, and nine, and they're very 214 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: pro Israel, They're very into their Jewish identity. 215 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: But look, you know, it's it's definitely something that. 216 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 4: Concerns me, turns me every second of the day. But 217 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 4: I've also seen polls where ninety percent of Jews, even 218 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: ninety five percent are Zionists or at least lean Zionists. 219 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: And to me, that gives me hope that there is 220 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: a communication in the next generation, because there also is 221 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: polling of the next generation that isn't so great as well. 222 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen it. 223 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: And so for me, like every day, I fight because 224 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: like you and your children, I want to make sure 225 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: my children feel that strong sense of pride. 226 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: And you know, how do I how do I do it? Well? 227 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 4: My wife is right on board with everything I do. 228 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: She's credible in terms of her stand up nis in 229 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: her own way for the State of Israel and for 230 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: being Jewish. But for me, like I am leaving them 231 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: with a legacy of Instagram reels, right, they are. 232 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: You're all my thoughts. 233 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're all my thoughts, and like you know, so 234 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 4: we all have a responsibility to do all we can 235 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: right now so that our next generation sees what we did, 236 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: as you just described, and leaving that legacy for them 237 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: and showing them like during this period of very dangerous 238 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: Jewish hate and anti Semitism, their dad stood up loud 239 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: and proud and yeah, so it makes me emotional, but 240 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: like so I want to make sure they see that, 241 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: and hopefully that's how they get it gets instilled in 242 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: them that sense of Jewish pride. And we always you know, 243 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: in terms of the religion, we do shabot dinners at night, 244 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: and you know, we just are constantly instilling in them 245 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: Jewish values and the importance of being Jewish. My daughter 246 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: is five years old and I've already whispered in her 247 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: ear if she marries it non Jew, I'm not coming away. 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: It's things like that. 249 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: You got to show them further on the roof to 250 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: really bring that point home. 251 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but one of them married it on Jew. 252 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: So that's the whole thing. 253 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: When she married it on jew and the dad was like, 254 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: you're dead to me, and my daughter watching that as 255 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: a little girl, I was like, oh, I was like, 256 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: you know. 257 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: I don't even want to put it in her head, 258 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: but at some point not even option. 259 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she's more. 260 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: Into Shrek right now and we so wicked great but 261 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: but yeah, So what you're saying right now is the 262 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 4: most important thing I think a Jewish parent can do 263 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 4: is to what, in ever way they feel is appropriate 264 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 4: and relevant to the child. Instill in them that sense 265 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: of Jewish pride, right, the sense of you know, the 266 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: state of Israel being the Jewish homeland, take them to Israel, 267 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: you know, whatever the case may be, instilled it in 268 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: them is in any way they can. And we all 269 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: have a platform. By the way, no matter how large 270 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: you're small, it's important you use that platform. Again, as 271 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: I say, so the future generations see what you did 272 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 4: during this time, A real just terrible Jewish dad. 273 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break and be right 274 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. 275 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: So you came up with bunk one because you saw 276 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: a hole in the market. Do you see a hole 277 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: in the market in terms of kind of the pr 278 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: that Israel gets or the organizations that support Israel in America? 279 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: I find a lot of them to be kind of 280 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: on the weaker side. Do you anything that could be improved. 281 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, first of all, two Jews, three opinions, right, sorry, 282 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: got their own take on what the situation is. But 283 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 4: so I was invited by the government of Israel. Don't 284 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: know if we saw this on my Instagram to come 285 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: at the end of January with about fifteen others they 286 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 4: described influencers, so that we would help them with the 287 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: pr of Israel. They took us all around. They took 288 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: us to the gods of border where the food was 289 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: going in. We literally videoed it and showed the world, 290 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: at least our world. 291 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: And so there is a problem. 292 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: Even the Israel government identifies the problem to the point 293 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 4: where they took us there to try and help with 294 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: the pr I still think they can do a better 295 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: job of it. You know, I. 296 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: Think the reaction time is very. 297 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: Very slow in terms of Israel responding to whatever takes 298 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: place in terms of the news and listen, I understand 299 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: partially why it's slow because they're verifying actual facts and 300 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: they're not releasing information that isn't true. But with the 301 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: new cycle is what it is right now, it's instantaneous. 302 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: You almost have to adapt to the times a little 303 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: bit and at least get something out there that the 304 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: world sees, unlike the other side, which is just releasing 305 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: lying propaganda that gets picked up immediately, immediately and just 306 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: spread all over the world. So there's definitely a pr problem, 307 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: which makes me nuts too, because there's so many amazing 308 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: pr agencies run by Jews here in the United States. 309 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: I don't know why we just don't hire one or 310 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: two of them time and just have them through Jewish 311 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: pr like twenty four to seven, and that's it, that's 312 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 4: all they do. 313 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: What do you worry about? 314 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: It's really my children, It's the future of the Jewish people. 315 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: It's you know, the way I see hate on the streets, 316 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: the way I see Jewish hate being normalized right now. 317 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: You know, there's not even press coverage when a Jew 318 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: gets beaten up at this point, you know, or it 319 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: gets even killed, there really wasn't much press coverage on it. 320 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: So like, is that the way the world is heading 321 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 4: right now? It's very, very scary. A lot of it 322 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: reminds me of what I read and what I see 323 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: from nineteen late twenties or even thirties. Nineteen Germany, you know, 324 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: as we describe, and it worries me. It literally keeps 325 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: me up at night, to the point where you see 326 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: what I do online, you see what I do on Instagram. 327 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm constantly posting about these things, so the world at 328 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: least sees maybe some of the truth that's not being 329 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: portrayed by a lot of the mainstream media channels. So yeah, 330 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 4: what I worry about is is that our. 331 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: Future existential right, Existential concerns more than anything else right now. 332 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, listen, I want my back to feel better, 333 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: you know. I worry about that. 334 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: Marlin. 335 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be nice if we want a few games, 336 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: although we're having a good season this year, which is awesome, 337 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: you know, But the real real issues to me are 338 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: my children, my family, which is the most important thing 339 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: in the world, and Jewish continuity, which is the second 340 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: most important thing in the world to me. 341 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: And those are the things I really worry about on 342 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: a daily basis. 343 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, when I leave kind of the major cities 344 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: in America, when you go out into America, you see 345 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: such a difference in support for Israel but also just 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: pro Jewish behavior. 347 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: I talk about it a lot on the show. 348 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: Actually, like I did an internship, not an internship, I 349 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: did a fellowship at Hillsdale in rural Michigan, and you 350 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: drive by churches and they say pray for Israel. I 351 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: just I want people to know that there is more 352 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: than the. 353 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: New York Times. There's more than just you know. 354 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: Kind of the ever moving leftist media and enclaves in 355 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: this country who do support not only Israel but Jews 356 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: across the world. 357 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: It's I mean, that's why we're still around. I mean, like, 358 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 4: thank God for like the evangelicals. You know, I think 359 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: that's what you're describing. Oh for sure, you know, like 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: they they're more pro Israel than a lot of Jews. 361 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Oh I know, yeah, I. 362 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 4: Can't believe that's a sentence, but it's it's true. And 363 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: you know, and I have so many friends. I was 364 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: with Patricia Heaton the other time. 365 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: I know, my friend, the Hallo Queen was at that 366 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: event with you. 367 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: She's amazing. Yeah, Patricia, like and I know each other 368 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: basically through social media, but this was the first time 369 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 4: we actually hugged in person. And she's like, all right, 370 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: I love your videos. It's so wonderful you love my videos, 371 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: but you're our hero because you you say, I don't 372 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: have to do this. She doesn't have to do this, 373 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: she does not have to support us, but she. 374 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: Is all in. 375 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: She believes it in her heart and soul. I did 376 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 4: a quick interview with her. I'll post soon. And it's 377 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: just so meaningful to I know, to you and to 378 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 4: me and to all of us that are such strong 379 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: Jews to have this support all around the country. And yeah, 380 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's so great to see it from states that, 381 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: like you can't imagine that these are the states that 382 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: are really the ones that are keeping. 383 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: I feel like I could imagine just because I'm a 384 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: lifelong conservative, you know, I always felt very supportive, supported 385 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: by the conservative community, and I love seeing kind of 386 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: that support on all kinds of levels with Israel now. 387 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: It means a lot to me. 388 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I grew up as in an orthodox 389 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: Jewish environment, so for me it was it was a 390 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: very conservative environment. It was a very pro Israel environment. 391 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, you saw who your friends were 392 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 3: even back then. 393 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Totally absolutely What advice would you give your sixteen year 394 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: old self having to do this all all over again, 395 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: how do you protect your back? 396 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think that question like, so sixteen now versus sixteen, then. 397 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be sixteen. Then it has to 398 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: be you sixteen then you. 399 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: Know, so I would say, like, first of all, enjoy 400 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: being sixteen, my guy, go to every party. You can 401 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: do everything. Again, your body is only sixteen once. But 402 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: think about your time being the most valuable commodity that 403 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: you have. And I say that a lot. And you know, 404 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: make sure you're constantly trying things, legal things, legs and 405 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: doing things that are appropriate. But you're just trying things, 406 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: and you're out there and you're living your life, and 407 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: you're you know, learning about the world, and you're questioning things, 408 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 4: and you're just being You're staying you know, you're happy, 409 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: but you're also staying true to yourself about who you are, 410 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: about your family, about what's important to you. You know, 411 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: those are the things, Especially now that I'm doing this, 412 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: like online Instagram stuff, I get so much hate on 413 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: a daily basis that like I would say to my 414 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: sixteen year old self, like you be you, You're gonna 415 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: throughout your life. And this is the same with Bonk 416 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: one by way. They told me it was the worst 417 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: idea they ever heard, you know, Like I was like okay, 418 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 4: I'd be me. You know, like there's a lot of 419 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 4: heat going on right now. I'm going to still post 420 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 4: my Instagram reels to make sure that people see my 421 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: truth and the truth, you know what. I love that, 422 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's what i'd say. And it's 423 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 4: not easy, because sixteen is not an easy time be anything. 424 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: And you know, you got peer pressures and for sure, 425 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 4: you know girls that are starting to like you or 426 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 4: not like you, which is even worse, boys or whatever 427 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: it is, you know, Yeah, and so it's not easy 428 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: to be true to yourself. But I would say, like, 429 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 4: really do your best that you can and be proud, 430 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: and you know, if something doesn't go your way, that's life, 431 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: it's going to happen, and you know things will turn around. 432 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: Go to the parties and be true to yourself. I 433 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: like that a lot. 434 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 4: By the way, whoever knows me knows how true those 435 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: two statements, both of them, Like that is who I am. 436 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: Did you grow up in New York I did. 437 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: I grew up in the city. 438 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: In the city. I grew up in Brooklyn, So yeah, 439 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 2: I went to all the parties. 440 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: I mean, did you go to Yeshiva? He sure? 441 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: I know, but I didn't go to Yeshiva for the 442 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: first eight years. Okay, yeah, cool, So well, I've loved 443 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: this conversation. I think your voice is really amazing and 444 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: I love following. You leave us here with your best 445 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: best tip for my listeners on how they can improve 446 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: their lives. 447 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: How they can improve their lives. Well, first of all, 448 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: have passion in whatever you do. If you're not passionate 449 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: about something, you are completely wasting your time and you're 450 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: just not going to live a fulfilled, fun, meaningful life 451 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: and it's just not not as good. I also, I 452 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 4: also say, because I do this all the time, like 453 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 4: wake up with goals for the day, goals for the week, 454 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: goals for the month, and really try and hit those 455 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: goals because it keeps you focused on doing things and 456 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: it keeps you, you know, nicely aggressive about how you 457 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: live your life and what you want to accomplish. But also, 458 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 4: as kind of we've described in the last twenty one minutes, 459 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: like do the hard stuff. Don't just do the easy stuff, 460 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: do the hard stuff. You will feel better about yourself 461 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 4: if you are out there challenging yourself and you're out 462 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: there doing things that make you even a little bit 463 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 4: uncomfortable again. All legal, all good, all being nice, but like. 464 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: This is a show about doing legal things, guessing. 465 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: Legal things exactly. I don't know why I've said. 466 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: That a few times, you just to reiterate, don't do 467 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: anything illegal. 468 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: I'ven't even done anything illegal in my life. 469 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: So it's like funny though, even say, but. 470 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 4: Challenge yourself, do the hard things you're you will be 471 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: more proud of yourself, Others will look up to you more. 472 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: And it's just it's just a better way to live. 473 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, you have all this like 474 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 4: instant gratification in this world, right sure if you do 475 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: the hard stuff, appreciate the delayed gratification, appreciate the things 476 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: that like you're doing right now that will make your 477 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: life better, your children's life better in the future. And 478 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: it's just, you know, we don't have enough of that 479 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: right now. I need that instant two second yeah, whatever 480 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: it is. And it's just, you know, it's it's making 481 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 4: us all nuts. Like do things that are are more 482 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 4: long term right now, like fighting for the Jewish people, 483 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 4: which I hope I do in a good way right now. 484 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: I love it. Do the hard thing, set goals, wake 485 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: up and do it. 486 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. He's Ari Ackerman. Check out his Instagram. 487 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: It's really excellent. Follow him there. 488 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Ari for coming on the show. 489 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: Thank you Carol, this was awesome. Appreciate you