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Speaker 1: You're gonna hear what happened when we do a closure call.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, it's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,

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Speaker 2: People like feelings. Sometimes it really like it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: They're helpful. I can say that for sure, And in

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Speaker 1: past editions we've talked with a lot of people who've

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Speaker 1: But normally it's long term ghosting, right like, what happened

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the situation with one of our listeners, Jen, So, Jen,

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's my Fiance's name is Bryson. He might be

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Speaker 5: You guys have to have mutual friends, you know, after

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Speaker 1: Well, just because you have a lot of close friends

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Speaker 3: You know, I actually haven't introduced him pretty deeply into

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Speaker 1: Well you know us, Jen, we don't like to pry

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Speaker 5: Except that's what it is, the opposite of that, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, thank you. We're going to try and

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Speaker 2: I bet your head's just swimming in worst case scenarios.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be good.

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Speaker 3: Do you I'm just really worried that he would respond

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, we're right in the middle

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for helping me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm actually pretty worried about you going into this.

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Speaker 4: I still think there's something positive could be here, like

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Speaker 2: Or you just can't figure out what time zone's in.

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Speaker 2: He's very persistent.

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Speaker 1: And look it worked with your fiance Bryce and Jen.

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Speaker 1: Question one, Jen is extremely worried about you and your safety.

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Speaker 5: Did they respond with like magazine cutouts of letters all,

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Speaker 1: You didn't do that, but I'll tell you he answered

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Speaker 3: That's not what he's related to me. But I can

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Speaker 5: You can't understand why he'd be emotionally in a bad

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Speaker 3: Well, I know work was really busy for him before

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Speaker 3: you just hadn't been as response to some of my questions,

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Speaker 1: Well, so for question two, we asked him, where are

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Speaker 1: So he responded, Yes, I was traveling. I have been

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've been back at my apartment for a

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Speaker 3: I guess what I don't understand is he's the one

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Speaker 5: Right because I mean, as a like, you should be

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Speaker 3: Or at least do me the courtesy of telling me

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Speaker 1: You should at least put a note on the door.

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Speaker 3: Break.

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Speaker 1: Please don't know. If I'm not long, is this break

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Speaker 2: She need to sit down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I read through this real quick,

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Speaker 1: So he wrote back. He said, I felt guilty about

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Speaker 3: Whoa wait, wait, wait, do you think he's messing with you?

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Speaker 3: Because that that cannot be.

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Speaker 1: There's no way, really, Rocky, I know you were telling

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Speaker 3: Oh, I honestly don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 2: What a jerk. So he goes and gets married while

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Speaker 5: And now he's back in his apartment by him self

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Speaker 4: Obviously if she knows about you, like the other wife,

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Speaker 1: We're running out of time here, so we're going to

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Speaker 1: one it said, it said, is there anything else that

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Speaker 1: I mean, we kind of just gave him an open

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Speaker 2: And are you ready? Jen?

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Speaker 3: I just can't even imagine what else he would need

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Speaker 1: Well here's what he said. He wrote back, Obviously it's

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Speaker 1: sometime next week to collect my things. Oh no, you

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Speaker 1: my what?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 1: Hold on? Then he follows that up with I wish

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Speaker 1: Jen nothing but the best, and I'm truly sorry it

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Speaker 4: Now, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's so overwhelming. I can't even it's so overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: And that's not giving him the stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well that's not very nice, Jen, Sorry she needed that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so sorry that you had to hear

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Speaker 5: You just have to remember in all of this, you're

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Speaker 1: Like you escaped. If anything, you got out unscathed, you

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Speaker 1: just give back that or no, throw away the ring,

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Speaker 1: whatever you do with the ring. But yeah, she got out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm just really thankful for you guys, because honestly, I

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Speaker 2: Oh, you deserve all the happiness in the whole world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh it just makes me cry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you never you never really know what

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Speaker 1: some of them turn out good and some of them

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Speaker 1: turn out not so good. Well, but hopefully it brings

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Speaker 3: Jen, Yeah, I'm just thankful it's not like a ten

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Speaker 5: I guess. Do you have someone in your life to

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Speaker 2: Cry with you.

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Speaker 3: I can go and go to my sisters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh that's good if you.

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Speaker 4: Need a laugh, Jen, I'm always here too.

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Speaker 1: Came off weird, you came off needier than she.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we all need text into seven eight, five nine

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Speaker 1: to tell us what you thought about the closure call today,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, and tell us if you need a

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Speaker 1: new engagement ring on the super cheap because I hear

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Speaker 1: there's one failable, no, not even super cheap.

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Speaker 2: Give her her money. I need to get that dough

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Speaker 2: talking ten k or more. Right now, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning,