WEBVTT - Our Conversation with Sarah Jessica Parker Continues... 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.920 you a Charlotte? Hi? 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.960 Everybody, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? We had so 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.320 much to discuss with Sarah Jessica that we have another 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.479 episode all just thoughts, random thoughts with Sarah Jessica. The 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.520 thing that I want to say to now is that 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.480 I do feel that female friendship is so much more 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.319 valued and talked about and discussed now, And I love 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.400 that so much because I do feel like it's just 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.040 incredibly important and it used to be a time where 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.559 somehow it wasn't discussed or you know, there were all 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:42.839 these soap operas where the women were fighting each other, 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.839 and that was always something that was very key to 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.240 our DNA was that that was not going to happen 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.080 on our show. We were never going to fight over 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.400 a man. Do you remember? That was one of the 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.280 few notes that came from HBO over a kind of 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.840 very minor story point between you and Miranda that one 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.760 time where she wanted to date that you had dated, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.319 and you. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.160 Were like, yeah, sure, okay, you know what I mean, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:03.760 Like it was. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.200 It was a different we were going to be completely 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.640 different in that way. And then eventually we get to 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.800 that beautiful scene on the stoop where I say, you know, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.480 maybe wore each other's soulmates, which I remember was just 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.760 a beautiful scene in the middle of the night on 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.800 that certain street that I think I'm still not supposed 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:19.160 to mention. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.560 Are I don't know what. Yeah we got yeah we 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.760 got some trouble. But you know, so confused the special 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:31.440 students on your daily path. Just go to the second left. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.600 Just trust me, it's the second left. There you go. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:36.800 But you know what else I want to ask you? 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.319 But I mean, I'm going to have to mold this 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.960 over what you're telling me now, and I'm going to 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:42.800 have to really think about it from this person food 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.480 for thought. I know, I think for me right because 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.639 I'm over here, right like you're there and I'm over here, and. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.400 You had to play cares I'm up here. No, no, no, no, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.480 we're sitting there in our housewife quote apparently, I don't know, yeah, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.840 famous house it was housewife. It just makes me laugh. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.760 I don't know. Yes, somebody said I'm up here and 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:12.160 you're down here. Really you're saying, oh, you're over there, 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:13.800 you know, we're in our own bubbles. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.959 Someone the other day told me that they think that 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:21.800 that the Housewife you know, uh franchise, mega franchise that 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.000 our friend Andy. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.280 Created was inspired by us. And I was like, what, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.639 I've never seen it, so I didn't know what to say. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.360 That she meant as a compliment. Yes, you know, Andy's 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.799 just a genius and came up on his own. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:40.959 I believe. But anyway, and I forget. Oh, I know 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.480 it was good. Are you kidding? You said the driver 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.440 hare cast. Yes, because so one thing, when I'm looking. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.360 Back on the show right and rewatching, which is so incredible, 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.560 I was in my own, you know, somewhat of a 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.960 tizzy right like the first beginning, especially because I'm in La. 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.079 I'm coming back. I have my golden Remember, I would 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.760 haul my golden retriever back and forth with me Kelli 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.840 and you know, like just trying to figure out where 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.440 I'm going to live and what I'm gonna do, how 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.040 A'm gonna. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.520 Wear those shoes that took her a whole season at 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.120 least to get me into the shoes she wanted me 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:11.520 to wear. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:16.640 You know, so funny. I know, I know it's also funny. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.440 So I'll let you finish. Then I just want to 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.800 say something about your angst that you talked about. Please 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.760 tell me what you want to say now about I'm 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:30.720 going to say that, you know, I think you're always 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:37.960 really good about saying when you were nervous or worried 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:43.480 or even if something upset you. But I was very touched. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.800 I mean, I feel like I I hope that you 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.960 felt if you shared that with us, that you were 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.600 taken care of. Like I hope that when you felt 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.000 nervous or literally angst and you would lie in bed 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.400 and worry about seeing your body, any of these things 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.240 at the times that in which you felt comfortable to 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.800 share it. And I feel like we we talked a 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:19.280 decent amount about that that you nobody dismissed it as silliness, no, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:24.479 but I was like, wow, it really like state. It 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.000 was like your constant companion for the entire first season 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:33.560 for sure, for sure. And my part of me is like, 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.680 oh my gosh. But the other part of me is like, wow, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.440 look at her. Because everybody has a way of like 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.280 revealing or beings demonstrative about the things that they're worried about, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:51.240 and some people are are willing to share it, and 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.040 some people just it blurts out and in different directions, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.240 and you have to assume that it's because they're worried 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:02.240 or they're insecure, nervous like it. That's our most human 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:11.000 parts of ourselves. Absolutely, But I just don't like, you 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:17.320 didn't really it didn't really mess with you. Curiously, I 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:25.919 know it didn't really mess with you. And that is 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.080 a real testimony because I feel like we talked about 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.480 being worried, upset, nervous, et cetera, and you, I think 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.600 you started the podcast today Sarah Jessica doesn't cry much, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.320 and I was like, what, I feel like I am 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:44.680 so sensitive so overly. Well, it's not creating sense of 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.440 or two different things, right, but I feel like in 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:53.280 my head I'm a mess, worried, nervous, et cetera, et cetera. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:55.960 But we have like a job to do in the 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.400 camera rolls is to try to convince somebody at that 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.240 time that you are Charlotte and you feel really strongly 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.279 about this and you need to get from A to 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.240 B and then B two C and and then exit. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.440 Cy is where you're going to and the camera is 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.240 going to say cut right, thank god. Well, she was 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.440 so good at saying when she was upset, nervous, and 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:21.760 then something did something like distracted you or gotten a thing. 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.920 Then it was like over and out and done, like 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.200 you expelled it. But I didn't know that you actually 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.320 weren't expelling all of it, like you weren't ridding yourself 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.480 of all of it. You actually were like, hang on 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.440 to have a hood about I did. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.960 I did, I did, And I think, I mean, really, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.120 what you're saying, when I think you're saying, is that 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:43.400 I am. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.320 I don't have a. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.600 Lot of cover, you know, my my myself if I 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.440 know you and I trust you, which I do obviously 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.600 trust you. Ever since the Krispy Kremes, I was. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.679 Like, I can talk to her, but I didn't. I didn't. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.320 I think it took a while for me to feel 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.800 because I've been in these other TV situations where you know, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.800 you did just kind of you were in your own 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.000 bubble and you had your own situation and you wouldn't 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.000 want to burden the others or you know, whatever it 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.840 would be, or necessarily share all of your thoughts. I 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.400 wasn't in a safe situation previous to our show, let's 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.960 put it that way. So I think once we got 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.280 to our show. It did take me some time because 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.160 I thought all of you were sew together and New 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.600 York and tough, you know, and you are in a 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:30.160 certain way. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.840 You know what I'm saying. Nay, I just don't. You're funny. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.640 But like you talk about the rain's nothing here. I 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:41.520 mean for me, I have so many traumatic rain memories. Okay, 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:45.000 like in my mind, like the sideways rain. I remember 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.880 one time. Do you remember that the sideways rain? Remember 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.080 that Nokia shiny phone I had that. You always like, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.200 why do you have that phone? Do you remember this? 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.640 Was it like a mirror reflected. It was like from 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:57.880 the matrix or whatever. I check my teeth in it, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:03.040 which it lip and it was like a mirror. Yes, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.840 And he would laugh at me, laugh at me. I 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.200 was on the shiny phone, which was like my prize possession, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.360 trying to walk to my Upper West Side apartment. Yeah, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.400 I had no they didn't past the men. Okay, I'm 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.680 not sure. I'm shaking the flowers. That's how excited I am. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.320 The rain. The rain came and it came sideways, and 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.320 I was like the phone. I was talking on the phone. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.760 I was like, oh my god, I've got to get 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.400 into a door, stupid phone. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.440 Yes, you know what I mean, like I have. And 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.800 then like one time I was shopping. Oh, this was 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:32.439 a bad memory. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.680 I was shopping. I was wearing my bright pink puffer. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.040 Don't ask me why why were that pink puffer? You remember, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:42.959 I mean so bright but very cozy. Yes, you're the 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.880 queen of cozy. I love to be. I'm always if 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.480 you're looking to feel good, travel well, pack right among 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.320 the things. Lady, what are my specialties? Is true? So 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:54.360 I'm marrying my paint puffer. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.400 I had gone downtown to go shopping. That's when I lived, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.160 the Upper West Side. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.839 I had shopped. I had multiple bags, you know, very 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.920 New York City. I was. It was a day off. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.640 I had no makeup on. I'm sure my hair was 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:04.840 a mess. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.719 Suddenly the rain comes and I'm like, no, I think 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.120 I was wearing mug boots and I'm not prepared for 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.240 the rain. It's cold too, right, soa I'm wearing the 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.040 puffer and it got so wet that the bags gave out. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:21.080 The things get that fall on the ground. That's really awful. Yeah, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.560 then I have to find the subway. I'm on the subway. 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.480 I get on the subway, I'm holding the things. I'm 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:29.199 like a wet rat, you know, and these young high 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.360 school kids get on and there are a bunch of 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.320 boys and they're like rah, and I'm like, oh god. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.040 And they look at me and they're like, that was 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.319 like that girl from the Sex and the City. And 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.560 the other guy's like, that's not her. She's ugly. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.920 And I was like, okay, I don't know if this 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.880 is good or bad, but it looked like a white rad, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:45.720 a wet rad. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.400 I'm like, you know, it's probably a white rang. Whichever, both, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.160 it's probably a good thing because they're not gonna ask 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.200 for autographic a picture right now. I don't think we 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.040 were a picture time in history anyway. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.280 Side note, I feel very much a whimp, you know, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.040 compared to you guys, even Cynthia especially, I mean, Kim 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.320 is definitely more, you know, of the sensitive nature and 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.520 and sometimes you know, she and I would. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.240 Be like we're cold, yeah, and you would be like, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.440 you know, used to it, I know, and that's actually 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.240 really good advice. But I always feel, and I felt 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.480 at the time in the beginning, especially because the first 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.360 season was so fast. You shot in three months. 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.600 I believe the whole season, and I was just like, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:29.480 I got. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.320 To pretend like I'm a month we started. I know 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.760 we are going to get to the bottom of this. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.680 I don't know. I bet I have my call sheets though, no, 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:37.880 oh yeah, I'm sure. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:45.520 Oh yeah, wow, incredible, incredible. Molly also has all the costume. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.040 Molly's like a receptacle. She has like made so much 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:48.679 great enough. 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.160 So back to me and the and the and the 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.200 things I was holding clothes. I think for me, I 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.079 felt so upset that they had tried to demote me 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.520 during the pilot. You heard that story, and I didn't 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.720 tell you guys, because I felt like that was like 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.200 a weight and like also I didn't want them to 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.960 be like, yeah, she doesn't fit in, Like that was 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.240 my insecurity in the beginning, right, Yeah, I was like, yeah, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.880 we shouldn't fit in obviously, you know what I mean, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.920 Like in my mind, that was that was like a 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.920 possibility for a while. It went away, you know, and 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.120 thank goodness. And also I did have that core belief 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.160 in Charlotte, thank goodness. 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.640 And I feel like you guys did too. Yeah, I 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.840 didn't feel like you were. I had a core belief 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.240 in everything all of it right, Like in the Foursome, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.160 I did. Absolutely it had to be this way, right, 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:40.240 you know that we all needed each other. Yes, even 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:45.280 if you looked at it like to survive. Absolutely, it 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.280 was like, well we were, we were very because weather personal. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.920 Yet it was like more like, well you have to 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:57.080 have she needs me, I need her. We are sustaining, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.839 we are our life sustaining. Absolutely, because these stories need 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.560 to these stories need to bounce off of each other 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.560 absolute order to be to have like relative and like 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.280 touch on things a. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.600 Bigger because that's that's one of the things I love. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.480 And one of the reasons for the podcast is the themes, which. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.760 We literally were supposed to talk about, but there's too much. 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.439 The themes are so great, right, and I just want 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.440 to touch on this for a second at least because 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.320 when I'm watching you first of all, Also, let me 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.160 just say everyone has better storylines and first season than 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.160 I remember, including myself. Right, So with Carrie, I just 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.920 want to talk about Carrie for a second, and Big 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.720 in particular and the other men that are around Carrie 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.280 because Okay, oh my god, Oh I've been dying to 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.200 ask you this. Okay, two things, Oh my god, thank god, 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:52.679 I remembered number one. Do you remember this insane sex 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:53.679 tape episode? 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.439 What? Okay, yes, it's possibly. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:02.160 It's with Modalizers with Carrit with real mocked playing the modelizer. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:09.640 So I remember him. I don't remember anything else. Wasn't 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.280 he kind of a big deal? Did he become a 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.840 big deal? Was he's on Suits? The original Suits? And 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.800 then he quit acting and moved to Europe with his family. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.480 It's not awesome. I know they pulled him back in 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.040 by doing suits la. Oh really, only a little bit 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.240 he can out there? I don't think does anyone know? 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.880 Is he anyway? I's talking about toxic ma masculinity in 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.720 the world. I love him. Oh, I'm passionately begging him 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.760 to be on the podcast. What Why would he say? No? 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:39.600 I think he's busy. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.840 But you know what, we need him because we need 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.360 some clarity on this one episode. Okay, I didn't really 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.559 remember it, which I think is also interesting. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.040 So you don't think it's material from her book. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.199 I do think it's material from her book, and I 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.160 just haven't had time to look. Maybe she just didn't 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:55.920 want to mention, but you know how she was actually 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.080 telling stories that she heard. She did say I do 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.920 think that was a real story that was circulating, got it? 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:03.040 Old person? 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.600 So basically, Gabriel mocked incredibly handsome, he was an artist. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.640 You're with him at his art studio and he's like 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.000 moving paint around a. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.240 Camera a big open soho space very much so yeah, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:14.480 vague recollection, yes, And. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.080 Then he says, but I need to show you my 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.679 real work of art, at which point he pulls you 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.960 into a different room and you're like, cool, Carrie, You've 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.880 got your cigarette, you know, you're cool. And you go 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.239 too this other room and there's all these old fashioned 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.800 TVs set up in this weird tower and then he 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.800 presses play or turns them all on by hand maybe, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.000 and it's him having sex with different models, unbeknownst to 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:38.160 the models. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.000 And you sit there, one at a time, one at 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:47.200 a time. Yes, yes, he's having sex. This is his 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.840 calling card. This is that I'm going to sleep with 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.000 you and film it and not tell you. Yes. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.400 Wow, But he tells you, Carrie, because you're cool, right, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.280 and he can confide to you. You're like one of 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.240 the guys somehow times in the beginning, I know, and 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.920 you very gamely sit there. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.200 Okay, do you remember this no one remembers this. It's fascinating. Okay, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.960 I bet I didn't have to watch it. I'm sure 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.720 you didn't have to watch Is there a shot that 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.600 I am included in this imagery? I would have to 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.320 go back and look. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.240 I think there's a shot where you're included in the 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.120 back of the TVs. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.120 But we can't see what's on the TV. So I 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.720 bet I didn't have to see it. And then at 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:31.920 the end you're like, oh oh, and then your voiceover 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.440 says something like I recognize them all from the pages 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:40.480 of Vogue. Every major fragrance ad was represented on screen. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.240 It's horrifying, right, But then you're so calm and collected, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.200 and then you're like, I need a cigarette. Can you 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.760 believe it? No, it's so. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:55.160 Old school, you know what I'm saying in a bad way, right, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.640 And I'm dying to talk to Gabriel Monckton what he 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:58.800 thought and felt film. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.880 He doesn't want to talk about it. Maybe that might 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.800 be why it's not his bright. It might be why 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.320 he's busy. So you didn't know, you didn't know you 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.080 were actually watching. To me, that's for sure. We had nothing, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.320 We had no clothing, We were being getting. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.360 Oh, you know, when I talked to Molly, she this 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.480 is when Molly knew every corner of Century City, sorry, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.640 century twenty one, and you won't ask her where the belts. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.640 She lived down there. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.000 And I remember going with them to Century twenty one, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.320 like we would have shopping. 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.000 Down would be like, there's four dresses down here, exactly, 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.120 come on your lunch free, exactly exactly, it's a trip. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.360 And people on the on the Great Vitadini down here, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.840 there were people on the they were like, what is 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:37.680 century twenty one? 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.440 What are they talking about? I know, I know, I know. 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.760 So anyway, there are some things, some some really like 0:16:55.160 --> 0:17:00.359 question problematic, problematic. But for us at the time, I 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.440 I remember thinking like, wow, this is racy for TV. Yeah, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.360 but I don't remember thinking this isn't true or anything 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:07.600 like that. 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:12.280 We were just used to it. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.040 I think the difference between racy and problematic it might 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:22.679 not have been even in our lexicon, like we wouldn't 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:28.560 necessarily have believed it was if the culture in which 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.439 we were living kind of existed in a way and 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:35.400 we were just carrying on exactly, get on with your day, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:42.000 get on with your life. Somewhere else, and so today, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:46.359 of course we'd be it wouldn't it wouldn't be suggested 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.800 as a plot line. But if for some crazy reason 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.080 it were like say a writer had dropped from a 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:55.720 time machine and offered that up, all of us would say, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.680 you understand that, Carrie can't you can do this? Right? 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.399 The response Kerry needs to then go call the police. Correct, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.600 Like there has to be an entirely different right response. Right, 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:12.960 she can't be a gavalier and internally objecting, right, which 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:13.199 you do. 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.680 Later tell Samantha not to go, but then Samantha goes 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.720 because she wants to be filmed, and then he tells 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.800 her he's not going to film her because she's not 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.400 a model, and she says, do it anyway. And it's 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.560 all very interesting. But the bigger, the bigger issue for 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.679 me watching the first season is not these you know, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.760 occasionally questionable and liked about the twenty seven guys. You're 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.080 definitely in like some very questionable locations and. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.160 You're just like what and you're like I just needed 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.159 to be kissed, Like it's all so very I just 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:40.680 love it. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.520 It's very exciting and also like odd, you know, to 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.359 remember back then But the thing that the through line 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.760 that is hard to watch for me and shocking really 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.520 surprise me is the complete. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.560 Wall that Big has. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.919 Up just as a human, you know, not necessarily towards you, 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.719 just in general, Like you take him to a party 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.280 where he takes you to a party, and that guy 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.639 who recurred, I can't remember his name right now, he 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:08.479 is his party. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.359 He had a cigar, he always had a cigar. Who's 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.440 blonde guy? I can't remember that, the one that who's 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:14.240 crossword puzzle? 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.239 I no, I think it's a different one than him, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.040 But in my mind they were also the same, but 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.160 they were different blonde guys. We're friends of bigs and 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.120 you go to this party and this one girl comes 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:24.440 up and like kisses him right. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.200 In front of you and is like you you still 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:27.119 have my passport? 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:31.160 You're like, oh, international travel, Like you're just so you 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:35.440 handle it, man, But inside you can see flitting across 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.800 your face at all times, so many thoughts and feelings 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.880 and thoughts and feelings. And then there's different times when 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.439 you try to get Big to talk to you in 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.639 all these different ways, and it's like infuriating to watch. 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.920 I just want to shake Big, but I never thought 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:51.840 about it at the time, because. 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.360 First of all, we just read a script. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.080 I mean, I think that you were much more able 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.600 to be objective and think about the overall arc and 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.040 you know, things from a storytelling perspective back then. Even 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:07.280 that I was, but I was just like, it is 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.920 what it is. I'm team big, I believe you love 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.040 No no, no, I didn't really there was no critical thought 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.560 or whatever. And also, and I talked to Candas a 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:17.600 little bit about it. It was interesting to hear her 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.440 point of view. That's what our lives were like then. 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.679 We were used to that as women being alive in 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.840 that time. Yeah, like there weren't some guys who were 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.080