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Speaker 3: Show that Welcome to No Dunks. I'm tas Malice in

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Speaker 3: the Classic Factory with me a man who's looking fresh

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Speaker 3: despite just coming back from Las Vegas. It's Tray Kirby.

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Speaker 3: He a ye oh yeah, thanks Jad for chipping in there.

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Speaker 3: Well you never know. There's there's only one other one

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Speaker 3: of us on the desk here, and of course Jad

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Speaker 3: making the magic happen. What's up, Jady? Hello, Hey there JD.

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Speaker 3: Skeets just coming back from Las Vegas having some travel problems.

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Speaker 4: This man has had a travel ordeal. Yes, going to

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Now before we get into everything Vegas.

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Speaker 3: The Wemby game also Great Popovich signing his new deal

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Speaker 3: some other transactions in season tournament details never revealed. This weekend,

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Speaker 3: we will be watching the home run derby tonight eight

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Speaker 3: o'clock Eastern. Whoa baby didn't know the music was coming? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: home run Derby for MLB's All Star Game weekend All

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Speaker 3: Joel will be joining us the Noe Buns crew. Also,

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Speaker 3: there's a new episode of Is This Good with our

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Speaker 4: I do know Kelly Dwyer. I saw in the description

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was there.

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Speaker 3: You are in the story, you are feature prominently.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see, well, you can check out all those lines.

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Speaker 3: Is this good? It's got its own podcast feed and

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Speaker 3: its own YouTube channel. But first we got our WEMBE game.

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Speaker 3: It was one game late. We weren't there for that one.

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Speaker 3: the Portland Trailblazers. No Scoot Henderson. Unfortunately, we'll get to

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Speaker 3: that a little bit later. But Victor Wembanyama showed out

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Speaker 3: in this game. He was phenomenal. Twenty seven points, twelve boards,

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Speaker 3: three blocks. The final line thoughts on Victor Webbanyama's first

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Speaker 3: good game at Summer League Trey.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's true what the people say. Victor Wembanyama's

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Speaker 4: pretty good. I mean, twenty seven points, twelve boards and

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Speaker 3: It went straight down. That net was real real how

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I blocked a three pointer Brandon Miller's attempt in

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Speaker 4: league and blocked three pointers this season. He's going to

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Speaker 4: have an easy enough three point opportunity. But the arms

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Speaker 4: in progress. I think this season for Victor because, like

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Speaker 4: you're saying, there are times when he looks completely out

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Speaker 4: But he's so tall that he can hit the feathery

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Speaker 4: probably score fifteen to eighteen a game just being a

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Speaker 4: getting rebounds and then just having such long arms that

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Speaker 4: I like this struggle in game one. Come out and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably the pressure being off helped a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But you're right about the garbage points. He could just

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Speaker 3: But it was cool to see him in the post.

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Speaker 3: Some beautiful footwork there in the third quarter, slinging in

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Speaker 3: he went to the line twelve times. One thing I

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Speaker 3: is that guys are in his landing space a lot

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Speaker 4: Huge, he's got a lot of landing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. That's a great way to put it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and guys are getting physical and want to

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Speaker 3: hopefully he doesn't get injured because of it. But the

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Speaker 3: other that that's been happening a lot. And if you

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Speaker 3: a pretty fun to be there. Kind of sad we

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Speaker 3: missed the second game in person to be yeah, sure.

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Speaker 4: for an easy slam dunk. It would have been awesome,

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Speaker 4: like to be there when he hit that three pointer.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, Spurs, Go Spurs go. People going wild. But

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Speaker 4: you know, say Levey, we were there for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was close down the stretch. He didn't like,

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Speaker 3: The other Spurs took most of the shots, although Wenby

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Speaker 3: like he only took four threes in this game. Far

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Speaker 4: I got some player thoughts for you. I think Jabari

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Speaker 3: So I got no problem, no problem. Good luck to

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Speaker 3: pop here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder wonder who's ever going to take over

429
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Speaker 4: for Greg Popovich, Like, is it somebody that's on the bench. Well,

430
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Speaker 4: Mike Budenholzer suddenly come back and be an assistant head

431
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Speaker 4: coach and then take over years down the line. Will

432
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Speaker 4: it be Becky Hammond, who has been rumored in the past.

433
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Speaker 4: I guess we're not gonna have to worry about it

434
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Speaker 4: though for another five years. Maybe Greg Papovitch will just

435
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Speaker 4: coach forever, forever and ever until he's ninety.

436
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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to a few transactions that

437
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Speaker 3: we had in the NBA. We'll get your updown take

438
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Speaker 3: on all these ones. Trey, in a move that saves

439
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: them four point five million dollars, the Atlanta Hawks are

440
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: trading guard ty Ty Washington, forwards Ushman Gruba and Rudy Gay,

441
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Speaker 3: and a future second round pick to the Oklahoma City

442
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Speaker 3: Thunder for Patty Mills. Will Patty Mills stay in the

443
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Speaker 3: stay in the A I'm not one hundred percent certain

444
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Speaker 3: on that. We'll see about that, I think so, but anyway.

445
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Speaker 3: The second transaction, Dario sarch has signed with the Golden

446
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Speaker 3: State Warriors to come off their bench. He spent last

447
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Speaker 3: year with Phoenix and Okay Soe. He got a big

448
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Speaker 3: stretching the floor. Very interesting stuff. And the third one here.

449
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Speaker 3: According to ESPN, the seventy six ers have match restricted

450
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Speaker 3: free agent forward Paul Reid's three year, twenty three million

451
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Speaker 3: dollar offer sheet with the Jazz and we'll retain him.

452
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Speaker 3: So we've got three transactions. You can go one by

453
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Speaker 3: one if you want, Trey give us your updowns.

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Speaker 4: I think I will. For the group here, I'm gonna

455
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Speaker 4: go like three quarters up. Okay, maybe actually two thirds

456
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Speaker 4: up because I'm up on Sarich, I'm up on Paul Reid,

457
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Speaker 4: and I'm kind of ambivalent on Patty Mills. If I'm

458
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Speaker 4: being honest here, he can still hit threes. He's if

459
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Speaker 4: he stays in Atlanta. He's likely just an emergency backup here.

460
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Speaker 4: But I think he could be a valuable off ball

461
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Speaker 4: tutor for a guy like Trey Young, who could he

462
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: use a little more Steph Curry in his game? And

463
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Speaker 4: certainly Paddy Mills plays a similar style where he's coming

464
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Speaker 4: off screens making catch and shoot shots. The Hawks also

465
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: saved some money open some roster spots here, so good

466
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Speaker 4: business from them. But Patty Mills has been traded three

467
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Speaker 4: times in ten days, and he also got married last week,

468
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Speaker 4: so he probably doesn't care at all. He's just like

469
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Speaker 4: talking to his agent. Hey man, let me know. In

470
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Speaker 4: September where I'm playing an I'll show up and shoot

471
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Speaker 4: some threes if you need be. So we'll see what

472
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Speaker 4: happens with Patty in Atlanta. But he seems like a

473
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Speaker 4: good vet to have around whichever team ends up with him.

474
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Speaker 4: I do like Dario Sarich going to the Warriors. I

475
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Speaker 4: think he's gonna be basically their replacement for Noamania b

476
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Speaker 4: Alitza and Otto Porter from their championship team back in

477
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. They didn't really have that guy for

478
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Speaker 4: this past season. Jamichael Green was supposed to be the guy,

479
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Speaker 4: but I think Sarrich can do a little bit more

480
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Speaker 4: than Jamichael Green. He's more of a playmaker. He's got

481
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Speaker 4: a little bit of chemistry built in with Chris Paul

482
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Speaker 4: from their Phoenix Suns days together, and he's an average

483
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Speaker 4: to good three point shooter. Is he a thirty nine

484
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Speaker 4: percent guy like he was the past couple of seasons

485
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Speaker 4: or is he a thirty six percent guy league average?

486
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Speaker 4: At least that's okay. I think this is a good

487
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Speaker 4: get for the Warriors, just a smart player who knows

488
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Speaker 4: what to do with the basketball. I still wonder if

489
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Speaker 4: they need like a legitimate huge guy because they are

490
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Speaker 4: going to run into Nikola Yokich if they want to

491
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Speaker 4: try and make it back to the finals at some point.

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Speaker 4: So that's a question for me. And then the Paul

493
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Speaker 4: Reid thing I think is smart by Philadelphia. They could

494
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Speaker 4: not afford to lose another player, having Niang already gone

495
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Speaker 4: out the door, Harden wants to leave, and they haven't

496
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Speaker 4: really replaced either of those guys yet. I guess Shake

497
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 4: Milton left as well, not a big part of the rotation,

498
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Speaker 4: but guys have been leaving Philadelphia, none have been coming back.

499
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Speaker 4: So I think keeping Paul Reid was pretty big here

500
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Speaker 4: because backup center has been a need for the Philadelphia

501
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Speaker 4: seventy six ers for the past few seasons, so keeping

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Speaker 4: him around on a pretty solid deal I think is

503
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Speaker 4: pretty smart. I also think it's funny the way this

504
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Speaker 4: whole contract work. Yeah, because back in the day, Omer

505
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Speaker 4: Ashik got a poison pill contract that was basically invented

506
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Speaker 4: by Justin Zanik, his agent, and Daryl Morey, the GM

507
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Speaker 4: of the Rockets at the time. This the contract started

508
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Speaker 4: cheap and then got expensive, like you're taking poison. It's

509
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Speaker 4: okay at first, and then it gets really really bad.

510
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Speaker 4: This one, I think is the Nike will Pill contract

511
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Speaker 4: tho test Okay, it tastes bad, but it's good for

512
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Speaker 4: you because this deal, Paul Reids gets guaranteed if the

513
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Speaker 4: Sixers make the second round of the playoffs this year.

514
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Speaker 4: So you're happy to make the second round of the playoffs,

515
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Speaker 4: but now we're guaranteed to have to pay Paul Reid,

516
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Speaker 4: which is more likely for Philadelphia than it was for Utah.

517
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Speaker 4: So now Philadelphia is going to be on the hook

518
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Speaker 4: long term. But I think that's okay with Paul Reid.

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Speaker 4: Very funny though that Justin Zanik is the GM of

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Speaker 4: the Jazz and Darryl Morey is the GM of the

521
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Speaker 4: Philadelphia seventy six ers, and they worked out this one together.

522
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Speaker 4: These guys are loophole geniuses just going at each other.

523
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Speaker 4: So I think good stuff to bring Paul Reid back

524
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Speaker 4: to Philadelphia, and a hilarious way that it happened.

525
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Speaker 3: The Nike will Pill.

526
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Speaker 4: The Nike will Pill tastes Nike will taste bad, but

527
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Speaker 4: it does its job.

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Speaker 3: It's good for Uh. Yeah, I don't know. You said it,

529
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Speaker 3: so I'm going with it. Yeah, Uh so Xanik, Yeah,

530
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Speaker 3: trying to get Maury on the Nike will interesting interesting

531
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Speaker 3: move there, I guess that when you think about it.

532
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Speaker 3: So the first year is guaranteed in this deal, no

533
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Speaker 3: matter what, and then if they make the second round

534
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Speaker 3: of the playoffs, the follow the two years, the second

535
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Speaker 3: and third year are guaranteed. Wouldn't wouldn't you just want

536
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Speaker 3: that off the bat. It's not. It's not as poison pilly,

537
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: So that's why it's why it's the Nike will. I

538
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: guess the Sixers maybe not wanting to commit long term

539
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: to just paying money, but it's not that bad a

540
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: deal for I think you kind of have to. So yeah,

541
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: Zanik tried to give it to Mary, but I don't.

542
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Speaker 3: This is this is something that the Jazz were probably

543
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Speaker 3: willing to pay. But you can't poison pill like you

544
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: used to, and.

545
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Speaker 4: So this is it's what people are always saying.

546
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: So so they tried to do this the sneaky maneuver.

547
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Speaker 3: Sixers had to retain him the Sarch move. I love it.

548
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: You got to assume that he's gonna play well with

549
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors. He's lost some athletically because of

550
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: the surgery, but he still remains a good shooter. The

551
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: guy could always score I know, he hasn't scored a

552
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: ton in this league. He sort of tried to find

553
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: his way between being like a post guy with the

554
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: Sixers way back when and now more of a perimeter guy,

555
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: but perfect and backup roles. They just do still have

556
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: Kevon Looney as they're big big. They're big big, and

557
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: so this this makes sense. Yeah, the Hawks gave up

558
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: on a couple guys in Garuba that they just got

559
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: in ty Ty Washington that they just got and said,

560
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: all right, let's get Patti Mills. I love the idea

561
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: of him tutoring Trey Young to some degree, like just

562
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: sprinting into shots, sprinting into coming off screens. If Trey

563
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: is willing to do that. So that's that's interesting. If

564
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Speaker 3: if he does stick around, we shall see if he

565
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Speaker 3: remains in Atlanta Hawk. All right, another transaction more just

566
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: details on an additional transaction that we knew about. According

567
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: to ESPN Dylan Brooks, his contract with the Rockets will

568
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: actually be worth more than initially expected. We thought it

569
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: was eighty over four years, but it's actually eighty six

570
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: over four and with incentives, could be ninety million. I

571
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 3: know you're pretty down on it initially when it seemed

572
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: like they're bidding against themselves. What do you think about

573
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: it now?

574
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Speaker 4: Just yeah, I remained down on this one because I

575
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: saw a tweet from Keith Parrish at Fastbreak Breakfast who

576
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: broke it down and said the Rockets traded five second

577
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: round picks kJ Martin, Patty Mills, Usman Garuba, Josh Christopher,

578
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Speaker 4: and ty Ty Washington for the right to sign Dylan

579
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Speaker 4: Brooks to a four year, eighty six million dollar contract.

580
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Speaker 4: That's a lot to give up for a guy who

581
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Speaker 4: is a defensive specialist at the very at the kindest

582
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Speaker 4: I think you would say about Dylan Brooks, I think

583
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 4: he's gonna help this team. Dylan Brooks, Fred Van Vliet,

584
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: Jabari Smith, Junior, Ime Oka. That's the startings of an

585
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: NBA defense, like an actual NBA defense. And it's clear

586
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: that the Rockets valued the defensive side of the floor

587
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: when they're trying to develop their identity here because the

588
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: past three seasons under Steven Silas, they went twenty seventh,

589
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: twenty ninth, and twenty ninth in defensive ratings. So yeah,

590
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: the Rockets are play paying. They gave it over two

591
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars in contracts for the two worst volume

592
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: shooters in the NBA in Van Fleet and Dylan Brooks.

593
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: But they're hoping it works out on the other end

594
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Speaker 4: defensively and that their draft picks that they've made over

595
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: the years really take a step forward offensively and probably

596
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: become the lead guys on that end of the court

597
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: while they're getting the veteranship and the professionalism on the

598
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Speaker 4: other side of the court. I don't know if I

599
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: don't know if I mean h professionalism defensively, At the

600
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: very least, he's gotten underrated defensively because the offense and

601
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: the off court stuff with Dylan Brooks has taken over

602
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: the conversation. For sure, this is going to be a

603
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: fine deal realistically when it all comes said done, you know,

604
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Speaker 4: if he's making twenty million and making all defensive teams

605
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: or at least in the conversation. But it looks weird

606
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: for Dylan Brooks, and they've given up a lot just

607
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: to try and make it happen. Like Garubu is a

608
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: first round pick, ty Ty Washington was a first round pick.

609
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: These guys haven't established themselves in the NBA, but you're

610
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: giving up that potential to try and make a little

611
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: bit of a step forward, and it's just hard. In

612
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Speaker 4: the Western Conference, every team is good. Basically in the

613
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Speaker 4: Western Conference, it's gonna be the Rockets and the Spurs

614
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Speaker 4: at the bottom of the standings. You would have to think,

615
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 4: and I mean the Spurs got their guy, you know,

616
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 4: the Rockets are still searching for their guys. So weird

617
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: summer for Houston. But when you're the one with a

618
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: lot of cap space and not necessarily a contending team,

619
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Speaker 4: this is what happens.

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Speaker 3: What's strange is that they may not have cap space

621
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Speaker 3: in years three and four of this contract. Yeah, regardless

622
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Speaker 3: of the contract contract aside, I'm kind of done talking

623
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Speaker 3: about the numbers of this one. I just wonder if

624
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks is going to shoot this team into losses.

625
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: It could happen. That's the worrisome part. But hemy Udoka

626
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: get through to him, and okay, let's talk about the contract.

627
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: It's a strange, strange deal to be locking into somebody

628
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: in year three and year four, where again they may

629
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Speaker 3: not have cap space because they got to pay Jalen

630
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Speaker 3: Green and Chengoon and Jabari Smith down the line. They

631
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: do have cap space for the first couple of years,

632
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Speaker 3: That's why Fred, with two years and an option by

633
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: the team smart in that third year. This one who

634
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: was paying him seventy five million dollars Nobody? I don't

635
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: think who's paying him seventy, Who was paying him sixty?

636
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: Who was baying him fifty? That's why this seems extremely

637
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: strange to lock in. He could be worth it. You're right,

638
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: the defense has become underrated because of what happened in Memphis.

639
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: But what's properly rated is I mean, he kicked himself

640
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: off the team essentially, and they didn't want to bring

641
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: him back under any circumstances. This was a thirteen million

642
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: dollar player last year. They didn't want to pay him

643
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: a thing. But the Rockets say, we'll pay you eighty

644
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: six maybe ninety. Still a little strange when all is

645
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: said and done. But I'm sorry to talk myself into

646
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, you may u Doka getting

647
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: through to him. Fred van Vliet is already doing sprints

648
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: with his new teammate Jalen Green. They're already working together.

649
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's just a lot of questionable pieces, but

650
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: they could work out there. There's gonna be a lot

651
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: of bricks, I think though.

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: Oh Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of bricks in Houston,

653
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: but hopefully they're Like, if they're in the top twenty defensively,

654
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: even if they're still a poor, poor team next year,

655
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: you know they're gonna still be a lottery team. But

656
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: if they're in the top twenty defensively, like, that's certainly

657
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: a step forward. There is an interview at the Athletics

658
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Subscribe at the Athletic dot Com slash no Dunks. Kelly

659
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: Eco talked to Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks was there watching

660
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: the Grizzlies at Summer League. All love with the Grizzlies,

661
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: even with their GM But Kelly talked to Dylan and

662
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: he's I liked what he said. I'm looking forward to

663
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 4: working with Jabari Smith junior because Dylan Brooks is a

664
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: great defender. He did make an All Defensive team last year.

665
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 4: So for Jabari Smith to be able to learn from

666
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: a guy who's done it, that's only gonna help him.

667
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: But is it going to turn out for wins? Probably

668
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: not this season. You know, it's just too hard in

669
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: the West right now.

670
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: It is difficult. Yeah, if they changed the locker room,

671
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: then it's a win. There's no doubt about that, and

672
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: I do say, you know, there's no there's no doubt,

673
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: there's no mistake that he got he kicked himself off

674
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: the team. I kind of backpedal on that a little

675
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: bit because the Grizzlies should take a little bit of

676
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: the heat for this one in the way they handled

677
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: things and in just kicking him off the team. Dylan

678
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: Brooks helped lose that series by getting into it with

679
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: Lebron James. That was a mistake. There's no doubt. You

680
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: just don't do that with Lebron. But then he was

681
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: banished for for what really when it comes down to it,

682
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: we don't know, but he spoke out when he shouldn't

683
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: have spoke up, and it hurt his team in the end.

684
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Hopefully he can rectify that and hopefully him and Udoka

685
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: have a great relationship. Okay, moving on, We've got more

686
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: details of the NBA In Season tournament. They were revealed

687
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: in a huge presentation at Summer League. Let me break

688
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: it down as quickly and succinctly as I can. All

689
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: thirty teams are divided into six groups of five teams

690
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: each Tournament games will be played in Tuesday on Tuesdays

691
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: and Fridays in November. Every team will play the other

692
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: teams in their group once, so you'll have six group

693
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: winners along with two wild card winners that will move

694
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: on to the knockout rounds. And once we get to

695
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: the Semis, the tourney moves to a neutral site in

696
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. The Semis and finals will be played in

697
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: Vegas in early December. Boom, boom, You've got an in

698
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: season tournament winner. So tell me Trey, you're up and

699
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: upper down on these details and the in season tournament

700
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: in general.

701
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: I'm two thumbs up on this because in the Eastern

702
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: Conference they put the Bowls and the Raptors in the

703
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: same group. Ah, it's too good for US Celtics. And

704
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: that's Bulls, Raps and Magic in groups or Group three,

705
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. So yeah, I'm excited

706
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: for that because there's nobody who loves the Bulls and

707
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: Raptors meeting in meaningless games than us. Guys. We sat

708
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: court side for a summer league game between the Bulls

709
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: and Raptors. We were doing huge numbers on playback for

710
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: a play in game between the Bulls and Raptors, and

711
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: now we got the in season tournament. These two teams

712
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: are gonna be going head to head against each other.

713
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: I can't believe it. Great stuff for the No Dunks guys. Yeah,

714
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm willing to give this a shot. It definitely feels

715
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: like the league is kind of tampering expectations. You've basically

716
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 4: got Adam Silver and Joe Dumar saying yeah, one year

717
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: is not going to be the buy in right away,

718
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 4: but we're trying it now. Is the time. They're doing

719
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 4: it in December, kind of a dead month football wise,

720
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: which I think is pretty smart. You know, college football

721
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 4: will be in bowl season, but before starting like playoff

722
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: season for them, so there's definitely a spot on the

723
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: NBA calendar. It comes before Christmas as well, which is

724
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: kind of like a big launch for the NBA. And

725
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, We'll see how it plays out, but

726
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: I'm willing to I'm willing to like it because I

727
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: think that the play in Tournament has been a success.

728
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: It's made things more exciting as we get further and

729
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: further into the season, kept things competitive, given us something

730
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: to talk about, and I think this will be the same.

731
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty funny that they're just going to

732
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 4: be branding things as Game eighty three. If the Balls

733
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: somehow win this end season tournament, I'm absolutely getting a

734
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: Game eighty three championship shirt. But yeah, we'll see how

735
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: it goes in year one, because I saw in an

736
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: ESPN report that quote. Other incentives were discussed to give

737
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: players and teams more incentive to be invested in the tournament,

738
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: such as guaranteeing the winner a playoff spot, but ultimately

739
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: the league opted not to enact any such measures, so

740
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: year one could look different than year two. We'll see

741
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: how it goes, but why not, you know, there's not

742
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: much December. I'm happy for a little spice in December.

743
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: That would be wild if they gave the rewarded the

744
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: winner a playoff spot, that's probably why the god. Yeah,

745
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: that's a good move, not giving them a playoffs, But

746
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: that would be way too much. I know, you kind

747
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 3: of want to put some big reward, you know, if

748
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: it's a ladder match, you want that big thing at

749
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: the top. You want them to climbing for something. And

750
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: I know you're covering the MLB a little bit that

751
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: the All Star Game without having home home field awarded

752
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: to the winner kind of lessens the stakes now that

753
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: you got a World Series home field advantage for the

754
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: last few years and now you don't, so it's like

755
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: who cares. So it's kind of better that they didn't

756
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: give it to this, give this a reward and then

757
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: take it back. That would have been wild. That would

758
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: have been crazy. It's December seventh and December ninth that

759
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: it happens in Las Vegas, so that's the end of it.

760
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Just to clarify the dates. There a couple of weeks

761
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: before Christmas, the league is telling the players and everyone

762
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: it's important. This was a huge display and announcement that happened.

763
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: A lot of the big name players were part of it, like,

764
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, Trey Young, Anthony Edwards, Wemby was there. So

765
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards was reading the teams from his divisions as

766
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: they were being announced, and you know from from his

767
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: you'd announced the Minnesota Temples then the Golden State Warriors.

768
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: Was Steve Kerr rape beside him saying, oh, yeah, I'm

769
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: gonna give it to Steve Kerr. So like there was

770
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: I guess there's a little bit of there's some some rivalries.

771
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: I know, it's it's way too early to develop that,

772
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: but I think it's good. I think if this, if

773
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 3: we're looking longview, what really matters is that players care,

774
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: and I think they'll care if it's on their resumes

775
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 3: as an in season tournament winner. I mean, it's going

776
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: to be put there. I think we'll see that little

777
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: badge on Basketball Reference. I guess I heard Richard Jefferson

778
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: say that this will make players get in shape earlier

779
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: in the season that you can't wait. Yeah, maybe not

780
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: year one. I don't think they'll be really you know,

781
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: getting after it, doing their slow in October, thinking I

782
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: got to get to Vegas to win the final. That's

783
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: probably unlikely, but I do think down the road, you know,

784
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: as as we are told that this means something, I mean,

785
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: we're already talking about it, like we're excited about it

786
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: and we want to get to Vegas to cover it.

787
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: So send no dunks there. Yeah, we'll be happy to

788
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: go and do it. I will clarify one thing. I

789
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: know we've said this in the past, but most of

790
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: the games are part of the eighty two game schedule.

791
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: The only game which is an extra game is the final.

792
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: So if your team is one of the two in

793
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: the finals, they're playing eighty three games, the rest are

794
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 3: playing eighty two games, and the schedule makers they got

795
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 3: to get to work and figure this thing out, because, yeah,

796
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: we've got the games on Tuesdays and Fridays in November.

797
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: We know sort of the divisional play good thing. They're

798
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: calling it groups instead of pots. Remember they called it

799
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 3: pots at first. Yeah, oh, Americans don't know what pots

800
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 3: are and what's a So they went back to groups

801
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: and then they get to their their quarterfinals where the

802
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 3: schedule has got to figure that thing out that those

803
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: are the knockout rounds. Anyways, I'm just glad. Is there

804
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: a monetary reward there?

805
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: Yes, there is. The winning team each player gets five

806
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars, the losing team gets two hundred and

807
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars, and then there are I think like

808
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars bonuses and fifty thousand dollars bonuses

809
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 4: depending on how far you go into the tournament. So

810
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: you see a lot of people in the stream team

811
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: asking are the players going to take it seriously? I

812
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: don't know that we're going to see postseason intensity throughout

813
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: the regular or throughout the in season tournament. I think

814
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: we'll see regular season intensity up until Game eighty three.

815
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 4: I think the players are definitely gonna care about Game

816
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 4: eighty three. Five hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, it ain't a

817
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: lot to a guy who's making forty million, but it's

818
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: still five hundred thousand dollars, and it is a lot

819
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: to a guy who's making two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

820
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: So we'll see which teams actually end up making it

821
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 4: to the play in tournament. But I think the Game

822
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 4: eighty three is gonna be worth it and everything else

823
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 4: is just gonna feel like the regular season.

824
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: That's a good call, But.

825
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: Man, they should give a raise to the schedule makers.

826
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: This seems very complicated and hard to figure out Tuesdays

827
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: and Fridays except for Election Tuesday. Election Tuesday does not

828
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: count for the n Season Tournament. I also thought that

829
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: was funny and I like that the league kind of addressed. Yeah,

830
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: these these these things have boring names. Right now, it's

831
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: called the NBA Cup and it's called the n Season Tournament.

832
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 4: They're like, we played around with other names. Maybe it'll

833
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: change at some point in the future, but for right now,

834
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: we're going straightforward. So you know what we are talking about.

835
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, no presidential election this year, but I like how

836
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: they're continuing no games on that day ever, there's just

837
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: no games ever.

838
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: On local elections.

839
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, local elections will be done, so I'm glad they

840
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: don't change it up and just they just get to work.

841
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: It.

842
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: Gonna be tough for Atlanta though, because we end up

843
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: voting like one hundred, one hundred Timesyeah, too many runoffs

844
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: around here.

845
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be we'll be.

846
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 4: How am I supposed to watch the nd season tournament

847
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: when I got to go for another runoff election?

848
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be voting during the semis and the finals,

849
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure, over and over and over again. All right,

850
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: let's get to tweet of the night. Tweet O the

851
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Night Wow.

852
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: Tweeted The Knight comes to us from Ben Golliver, who

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Speaker 4: was in attendance for Victor Wembin Yama's second game here,

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Speaker 4: and he caught a great moment between two notable people,

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Speaker 4: Greg Popovich and Fat Joe meeting at Summer League. Like

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Speaker 4: it looks to me like Fat Joe was like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: there's Greg Popovitch. I gotta go up and say hi

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Speaker 4: to that guy. Looks like that and pop looks like

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Speaker 4: he knows who Fat Joe is. I'll at least say

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Speaker 4: that he's seen him before, I guess. But this to

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Speaker 4: me was like kind of a quintessential Summer League moment,

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00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 4: because Summer League is like the ultimate place where you're

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Speaker 4: just walking around and suddenly you see somebody famous. You're like, whoa,

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Speaker 4: that's Christian Brown just walking through the concourse, Joe meeting

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Speaker 4: Greg Popovich. So, tass, who's your favorite random person that

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Speaker 4: you saw while we were in Vegas?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Great question, zick oh mode. I mean seeing Zach Harper.

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Speaker 3: Uh is he famous? He walks around like he had

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Speaker 3: sunglasses rizz, Yeah, he's got the risk. It looked like

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Speaker 3: he was famous sunglasses during the during the day, kicking it.

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Speaker 3: I wish I had sunglasses on right now because I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm still on Vegas time right now. I think there's

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Speaker 3: some some bags that brought back with me. You just

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Speaker 3: said sunglasses during the day.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that when you wear.

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Speaker 3: Oh, indoors, indoors, nothing, no one really famous. Apologies to

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Speaker 3: Sach Harper jumping out at me right now. I mean

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00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: I was doing a lot of deep digging in my brain.

879
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh I know this NBA player. I know this NBA player.

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00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 3: We saw Jared Jack, former NBA player, right off the bat,

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Speaker 3: and I remember I had a a tweet exchange with

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jack a long time ago where he got mad

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Speaker 3: at me. Old Twitter erased it though, so I couldn't

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Speaker 3: even find it. I was gonna repost that. What do

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Speaker 3: you got? I mean, I'll think of some here.

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Speaker 4: But my Mount Rushmore for this year has two MMA

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Speaker 4: fighters on it, Michael Bisping Cormier. It was cool seeing

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Speaker 4: those guys around, you know, because we're expecting to see

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Speaker 4: NBA guys and NBA associated guys, but it was also

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Speaker 4: a big fight weekend for the UFC. To see those

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Speaker 4: guys just out and about pretty funny. My other two

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Speaker 4: NBA guys that I liked seeing, Larry Jordan was a

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Speaker 4: weird one. We ended up in an elevator with a

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00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: guy wearing a Charlotte Hornet's team gear looked down at

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Speaker 4: the credential Larry Jordan. I was like, I've known about

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00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: Larry Jordan since I was a child, Michael Jordan's brother,

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Speaker 4: but now to see him in the flesh. This is

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Speaker 4: the reason Michael Jordan wore number twenty three because it

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Speaker 4: was half a forty five because of Larry Jordan. Larry

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Speaker 4: was in the flesh, so that was pretty funny to

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Speaker 4: see still waiting to actually meet Michael Jordan in the flesh,

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Speaker 4: but you know, brother is pretty close. And then completing

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Speaker 4: my mount rushmore of funny Vegas interactions has got to

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Speaker 4: be Austin Rivers, who was just as excited to see

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Speaker 4: us as we were him. He said to Skeets Hoop

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Speaker 4: ed to Hooped, I love your guys stuff. I felt

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00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: like George Costanza because it took until this morning that

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Speaker 4: I wish I would have said, podcast to podcast, I

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00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 4: love your stuff. Austin Rivers, come on, no dogs, buddy, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh come on yeah, former guests of the Starters. That's right, hilarious.

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00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: I think he would have liked that podcast. I know,

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00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: I know, we gotta go back, call it back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a lot of great stuff. Yeah, Michael Bisping

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Speaker 3: was cool and he was a real Michael Bisbank like,

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Speaker 3: he was totally perfect Michael Bisbang. He was just yeah,

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Speaker 3: absolutely entertaining everyone at his table.

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Speaker 4: You hear about people having like tree trunks for legs. Yeah, guy,

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Speaker 4: he's got tree trunks for forearms like he was sitting

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Speaker 4: at a table. It just looked like an entire quadrcep

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Speaker 4: muscle was its forem. That was crazy.

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Speaker 3: I a big all right. That was a great breakdown,

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Speaker 3: great breakdown of all the famous people we saw, Larry Jordan,

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Speaker 3: Larry Yeah, yeah, Michael Jordan's not going to be in

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Speaker 3: an elevator, I don't think. Yeah, probably not with other

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Speaker 3: media members going up to the Summer League concourse. Although yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a That was a blast being there for

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Speaker 3: the Wembee game and if you want our take on that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we did a pod and YouTube show right after the

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Speaker 3: game live from Las Vegas, so that was a blast. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: we will be back later on this week. We don't

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Speaker 3: know exactly when, but we're not going anywhere where. We're

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Speaker 3: here all summer long. If you want to check out

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Speaker 3: something tonight, the playback Home Run Derby Home Run Derby

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Speaker 3: on Playback. It's on at eight o'clock Eastern Playback, dot tv,

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Speaker 3: Slash no Dunks find the link everywhere check out is

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Speaker 3: this good with Kelly Dwyer. But for now, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first time. Turn up, Love you guys, awesome,

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember Luis Robert is going

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Speaker 4: to win the home run derby Robe.

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Speaker 3: That's a great one. Great one. Maybe Julio at home,

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure there so he can show up

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Speaker 3: for it though, great call, all right, Embrace today people,