1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: What's up? 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: His way up with Angela, Guie and Cauzeem is here 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: today and look who's in the building. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: Walle How you feeling today. I know you've been working hard. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm feeling good though. It's good Monday, back 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: at it still up. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 4: Man has pooped. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 3: A minute, but I'm good. It's good to be back. 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: In New York doing all these interviews that I know 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: you hate. 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Doing allegedly, but I appreciate you for coming through. And 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: I know we were supposed to do this like a 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: little while ago, but I'm glad that album's out and 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: to see the reaction to people and also for me 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: to get a chance to live with it. 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Also, I feel like that's a big deal. 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: And when I tell you, and I know everybody's been 18 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: telling you this, but it still has to feel good. 19 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 20 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 5: Thank you very much. I'm full of gratitude. Everybody was 21 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: feeling a lot of love, so. 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: They've been doing lists and think pieces, you know. So 23 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: happy National Walet Day, because that's what for everybody who 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: wants to celebrate. I saw you posting about it too. 25 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 6: Though I couldn't stop posting about it, and obviously you 26 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 6: know that's that's my friend. But on top of that, 27 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 6: I get to be a fan of it too, and 28 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 6: knowing him as all as I have, I was glad 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 6: that like I got to listen with the world. 30 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 4: And like get the experience at the same time. 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 6: And it's just it's dope to see, like especially everything 32 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 6: like you've gone through with like media and everything and 33 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 6: how you know. 34 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 4: The bs that you've had to deal with. 35 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 6: Like it's the first time, I guess in my eyes, 36 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 6: and I've just seen like universal acclaim like undisputed, just 37 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 6: like everybody really messing with this album. I think the 38 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 6: jury's still out a little bit, but it's I like, 39 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 6: what if the jury's out, he is very small. 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Trash. I have not seen that one person say that. 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: I would. I would give you that. 42 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: I've seen people say top three of Walet's albums of 43 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: all time. I've seen people talk about your consistency. But 44 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: I know sometimes you don't feel that, Like sometimes you 45 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: feel like people kind of forget about you at certain 46 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: times and don't include you. 47 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: I just nah, I just not. I don't. 48 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 5: I don't think about it like that. No, Moore, just 49 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: you know I deserve everything I do. You know what 50 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying, I just. 51 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Set myself that one of those thing pieces I saw 52 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: was like, we don't discuss yle enough when it comes 53 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: to afrobeats. 54 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Did you see that post? 55 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that, and I thought that was a 56 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: great point, and we talked about that too before you 57 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: came here. I was like, you know, Wilet has been 58 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: using afrobeats and talking about it before it was afrobeasts 59 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: to the world like it is now. So I think 60 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: even for some of the songs on the album, like 61 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Big Big Head and YSF. 62 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I know those are your favorites now. 63 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 6: I feel like that's typical while Ago like he kind 64 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 6: of always sets a trend before like it becomes trendy, 65 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 6: and like he's been doing records of afrobeat guys since 66 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 6: like then their first second album, you know what I mean. 67 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 6: So it's like it all it's dope to see it 68 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 6: all kind of come back around, Like do you at 69 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 6: least feel some sort of like satisfaction or some sort 70 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 6: of It. 71 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: Was just it was kind of like, you know, you know, 72 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 5: I had a lot of conversations with Kaus and them 73 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: about afrobeasts and like what I wanted to do, Like 74 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: I don't think they really understood, you know, like with 75 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: like you know how the levity like how powerful the 76 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: music can be. 77 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: So it's an uphill battle for a while. 78 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 5: But I'm just glad that like death Jam, let me 79 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: get it off, like I want to get it off. 80 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: And this is your first album on death Jam. 81 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is. 82 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 5: Kind of like my first album ever, like do Low, 83 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 5: because my first jump Mark Bronson was kind of like 84 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 5: controlling everything and then I have my Mayback music stretch 85 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: and it's my first jont like like by myself. 86 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 6: Well that makes a lot of sense because in my eyes, 87 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 6: I think this is your best work. And I've known 88 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 6: you for a long time and I know this ain't 89 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 6: just me saying it because that's the homie, but like, 90 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 6: I just think the way it all came together, like 91 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 6: you kind of got low for a little bit, which 92 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 6: I think was key because I think a lot of times, 93 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: like a lot of people try to like come at 94 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: you about something has nothing to do with the music. 95 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 6: So the giving people less to talk about outside of 96 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 6: the product made people just really feed for it more. 97 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: And then when you gave it to him and it 98 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 6: was satisfactory, I think it's I think you're you're seeing 99 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 6: the fruit of that. Right now, you at least feel 100 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 6: I know, it's Monday, is. 101 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: Still early and ship. 102 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 5: But men and I do the feedback, you know, Like 103 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: I mean to be honest, like all the my timeline 104 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: when I drove out is normally like positive, like good, like, 105 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: so you really don't know to zoom out, you know, 106 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: but like like I said, it do seem like it's 107 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: a little bit more than normal. 108 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: So no, I ain't zoomed out yet, but. 109 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 5: Like I let it. I just wanted to just stay 110 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: like this, i'bi you know what I'm saying. No more 111 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 5: crashing out, No crash outs. 112 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: Crash the first song on the album of Conundrum right like. 113 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: You started it off immediately, let's get into because you 114 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: know me, I'm nosy. So when I heard a conundrum 115 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: first and foremost, I was like, Okay, that's what he's 116 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: really putting it out there for us to know. 117 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: But did you feel like okay? 118 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: I got to explain because a lot of times when 119 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: women become mothers, they take a little step away and 120 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: a breather and deal with that. And you're your dad, 121 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: and you've been a dad, but it feels like you've 122 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: been going through a lot personally. 123 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, life man, Like you know what I'm saying. I've 124 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: been off the scene for like three years, so I'm 125 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: just trying to catch everybody up to where I'm at. 126 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: So I came out with them lines to start down 127 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 5: just to let you know, boom, this where we're at. 128 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: Let me take a seat, right, you know what I'm saying. 129 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna be expressing all kinds of things on here. 130 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely, what did you did you give an opportunity for 131 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: your child's mother to hear this first so she can 132 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: be like kind of a heads up. 133 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean I talked to her husband, 134 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 5: like I talked like you know what I'm saying, but none 135 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: of them heard it. But like we we're in a 136 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 5: good place, you know what I'm saying. Like he's cool, 137 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: We're good, like we get along good. Like it ain't 138 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: no never gonna be no disrespect, Like I don't I 139 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 5: don't plan on having no nothing like that in my life. 140 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 3: Like I don't want none of that. 141 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: I like that because sometimes people don't don't want to 142 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: talk to the other person, but you do want somebody 143 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: also that's going to be around. 144 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: It's weird at first, but you get I mean, if 145 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: you got good intentions, you know you can figure it out. 146 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 6: I think you were really intentional with this music. And 147 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: I think the reason why people have been so accepting 148 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 6: to it is because I feel like that's kind of 149 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 6: been the theme with a lot of the mature hip 150 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 6: hop artists. Is here, right, like the clips they put 151 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 6: out an album, the first thing they talk about is 152 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 6: losing their parents, and you know, for a chance, the 153 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: rapper comes out talks about his divorce with his wife, 154 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 6: and after putting out the Hole of My Wife album 155 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and you kind of kicked off 156 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 6: the album with the same sort of energy. And I 157 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 6: don't know if it was just the content matter or 158 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 6: was it just like people like vulnerability, They like hearing 159 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 6: like these are real people, go all the real stuff, 160 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 6: and they pretty much relate to it because it's a 161 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: real life situation that so many people go through. Is 162 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 6: that something you're trying to tap into with this album 163 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 6: or with his song? 164 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 7: So? 165 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think you know, like I mean, I've 166 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: always been always like share my experiences with everybody. I think, 167 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: like you said, the gap, like the like the little 168 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: break that I took from everything, I think gave people 169 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 5: a little bit of chance to like get ready to 170 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: listen to me again or like take a break from 171 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying. And also, ip, I've 172 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 5: been chaotic for the past two years now, so you 173 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, don't nobody really want to come outside? 174 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: And like you know what I'm saying. So I think 175 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 5: I think that's something. 176 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: To do with it. 177 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: But I think it's good. 178 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 6: I think I think post chaos, post hip hop chaos, 179 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 6: like we've been very open to hear like music with 180 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 6: some real substance to it, right like, and I think 181 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 6: you know, I always said history is going to be 182 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: really cold to you because you've always been very open 183 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 6: with where you are musically. Is the way you talked 184 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 6: about your music, So you know, I think timing is 185 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 6: always is everything. 186 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: I feel like it's the perfect every time you say 187 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 5: it would be kind like I always be like, man, 188 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: I hope, So you know what I'm saying. But I 189 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 5: think it's just like with me, like I just I 190 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: don't know, I don't really have no other hobbies I 191 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: do like make music. I just stay at it, stay 192 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: at it, stay at it, stay at it. And like 193 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: it seemed like because like like that the resilience is 194 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: like kind of paying off a little bit on this round. 195 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 5: You know. 196 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: You know, I got to ask you this because I'm 197 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: trying to figure out Yle because in so many ways, 198 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: and I know on the album you talk about your 199 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: mom wants you to get married, like have a wife 200 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: and all of that. 201 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what you want. 202 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think sometimes I've been leaning more into it, 203 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 5: like like the past couple of years, the idea. 204 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Of it, because even for you letting your guard down. 205 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: It's really hard to do with when you were public 206 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 5: figure and you gotta write music and you gotta tap 207 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: into the different parts of your mind, your your past, 208 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 5: your trauma and put it all out. 209 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: It's a lot for somebody to deal with. 210 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: So I know I'm the problem like in most instances, 211 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: because it's hard to deal with the artists. 212 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: And also even you. This is one thing that stood 213 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: out to me where you said passionate sex, but you 214 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: don't cuddle. 215 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: I was like, dang, I don't know. 216 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: How it's good. It's like like, you know a lot 217 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: of people relate to that, like it's. 218 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Like they got like can sex be great if you 219 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: don't love a person the service. 220 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Listen. 221 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite episodes of so we 222 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: go back and revisit that. But I'm just saying, like, 223 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: as you get older, because I know when we're younger, 224 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: maybe the emotional. 225 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: Okay, sure are you really for how long? 226 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: So I get married? 227 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: Seriously, I would that was okay. 228 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: While I don't know if I believe you or not, 229 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: I want to though, why would you make that choice? 230 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: I'm busy? 231 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to Michael Frado because you 232 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: talked about this being like the first album where you 233 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: feel like this was you and just you. Can we 234 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: talk about that song because when it first came on, 235 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: it felt like you were channeling something. Yeah, and I 236 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: felt it felt like a Rick Ross beat, and then 237 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: it sounded like, okay, wait. 238 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: It's homage of Ross. First one was definitely harmless song. 239 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: But I always just to think of myself as like 240 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: Sonny and Godfather because like you just lunching and be 241 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: like always high headed and always and like now I 242 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: feel like I'm more on a Michael state where I'm 243 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: more like all right, like let's think this through a 244 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 5: little bit. 245 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: And it's difference. It's a lot. 246 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: There's a lot of different characters in this business that 247 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: we in and I know what's real and was not 248 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 5: like who can handle what how certain people is built? 249 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: So that was just me like getting that off, like 250 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people is not built 251 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 5: for this. 252 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. And I know I'm built 253 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: for because I've been doing it for a minute. 254 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: Did he Did anybody from MMG hit you up like 255 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: congratulations love the album? 256 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: I ain't. 257 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I ain't heart from nobody yet. But I 258 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: mean I've been busy. I mean I've been working. 259 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't know because you ain't changed your number. 260 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: I know I hit you up, you know as busy guy. 261 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: You got planes and cars and mansions and things. 262 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: I know. 263 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: But still it also is something that everyone it's the 264 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: number one hip hop album out right now. Yeah, you know, 265 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: so it's not something that you don't know about that 266 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be like, okay, I mean. 267 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: People having stuff going on. I don't know. 268 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: I mean I probably see him when I see him more, 269 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 5: talk to him soon whenever, you know, I don't really 270 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 5: it's another album for me. 271 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 272 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 6: This is not no you know what I think, man, 273 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: I feel like you know with you, you say you 274 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 6: ain't got no hobbies just staying you just stay in 275 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 6: the studio, and that's that's a fact. And even though 276 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 6: that may seem like kind of boring to the outside listener, 277 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 6: I don't think a lot of people understand that, Like 278 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 6: a lot of folks need to spend a lot of 279 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 6: time in the studio anymore. A lot of people don't 280 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 6: spend a lot of time. 281 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: Just like collaborating the folks, and you collaborate with a 282 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: lot of people on this album. 283 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 6: And you know, everybody that you hear from when they 284 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 6: talk about your songwriting process, they're always kind of marvel 285 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 6: at how you do it, because you know a lot 286 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: of times you just either emailing songs or sending beats 287 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 6: back and forth. Like that collaborative spirit that happens in 288 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 6: music is sort of starting to lose itself with the 289 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 6: Internet and all that type of stuff. How important was 290 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 6: that for you when the kid's making this, I. 291 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: Mean, I just I really just get in it, like 292 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: I just like like just so many things I did, 293 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: just so many of these records on this album, Like 294 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 5: I didn't even know, Like I got this weird thing 295 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: in my brain where I can learn something, do it 296 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 5: the task, and then two weeks later, I don't know 297 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 5: how to do it no more like like for like 298 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: just beats and like the like beat changes and stuff 299 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: that I just played around with this which was which 300 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 5: even big Head when when he's doing and when there's 301 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 5: like a little like I was just playing with his 302 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: ad legend and I was like put it there, doing that, 303 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 5: take the drums out, like I was just messing around. 304 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 5: Like so I just like I just get deep in it. 305 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: But also like when I'm done making music, like my 306 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: brain is off. 307 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't do nothing but lay down. 308 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 309 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: I just give him all every day in. 310 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: That jont it sounds like some rain Man stuff. 311 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: It is. I made a beat on the MPC. I 312 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: really can't. 313 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: We got the footage somewhere, but I was making I 314 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: made it beat on n PC and I don't remember 315 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 5: how to do it. 316 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 6: That ain't something you want to especially off the success 317 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 6: of this album is that ain't something you do want 318 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: to like dive into. 319 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: There's something there's some things we might get into, like 320 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: like just just like just to knowing what I want 321 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: out want things to sound like it made me like 322 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 5: really like push myself to try it. 323 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 324 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: What about for other artists? Because you see yourself doing 325 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: beats for other artists? 326 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah for show, Like I mean, I co 327 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: produced a couple of records for other artists, you know 328 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. But like, I think I'll probably do 329 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: it a little bit more for a lot of people 330 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: don't listen. Our artists don't listen, you know what I'm saying. 331 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 5: They think it's just Wila the rapper coming in and 332 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: where they don't realize I have my hand on a 333 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 5: lot of big songs. So you know, I'm definitely going 334 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: to do it, but it's going to be with the 335 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: right artist. You know. 336 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting. 337 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: I was, I got my makeup done this morning and 338 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: this woman, she's from Virginia, and she was like, oh, 339 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: what do you have to do today? And I said, 340 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, my show and then walle AT's coming in, 341 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: and she got so excited and she was talking so 342 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: much about it that I actually did a little voice 343 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: note from her, and I just want you just a 344 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: little snippet of what she said about you. 345 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: She isn't gonna be weird at all. 346 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: No, it's not. 347 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Set up. 348 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: It's not I don't never have nobody say like, yo, 349 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: somebody you want to talk. 350 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: To, listen, just listen. It's nice, all right, Shade. 351 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: What part of the DMV are you from. 352 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 7: I'm from Virginia seven five seven, And. 353 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: What were you telling me about Lee? 354 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 7: I was saying that I love that he loves R 355 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 7: and B and that he is not afraid to take 356 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 7: risks with his music, but also like doesn't stick to 357 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 7: the same kind of boring. A lot of times people 358 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 7: get a little bit boring with age and their music, 359 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 7: and I just feel like he still remains like fresh new, 360 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 7: but I like the R and B. 361 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: So anyway, I just thought that was nice because she's 362 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: from the DMV, and she was talking before that about 363 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: how she feels like you're such a hometown hero for 364 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: everybody in the DMV, and I felt like big Head 365 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: kind of encompasses that feeling, and so when she said 366 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: a lot more, but I just thought it was nice 367 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: the way that she kind of summed it up, because 368 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what that feeling is like for 369 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: people in that area. 370 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Having a Walley. 371 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of so much pressure that like 372 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: it just came from. 373 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 5: D have the homecoming show. I'm sure it's a lot 374 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 5: of dress going home, a lot of pool from every 375 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 5: single direction. And I mean, you can never really be 376 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 5: good enough for your own time. There's always more you 377 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 5: can do and all that stuff. But I mean, I 378 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 5: take the good with the bad. It's a blessing, but 379 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 5: it's really it's it's not easy job, you know what 380 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, it's not. 381 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: How was it kicking with the kids though? Right? Like 382 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: Prince loved, I. 383 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: Felt like I felt like the battery was recharged. I 384 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: wanted to do Caleton for the day. Like kids like 385 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: Bro ain't nothing like a theater kid from d C. Bro, 386 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: a theater kid from d C is a man. They 387 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: different over there, man, Like there's a lot of talent. 388 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: That's when Dave Chappelle went to high school and Johnny 389 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: Giel and all that. Like, yeah, like, I'll probably be 390 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 5: principal over there again sometime soon. I'm sure this doesn't 391 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: work out. 392 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: You got a job waiting for You lived a lot 393 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: of different places though, right, Obviously you lived in New 394 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: York for a while. You've also you lived in la 395 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: you lived in Seattle, So where else have you lived 396 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: besides that? 397 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: Chicago, Chicago, Maryland? I was in DC. 398 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: What's your favorite? You would say besides DC? 399 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: Minus the cold? 400 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 5: In New Jersey minus the cold, okay, because we had 401 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 5: a our block was popping me kay Michelle Odell back on. 402 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: It was all in the same block that was. That 403 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: was fun. But it's just got too cold to get 404 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: out of it. 405 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not much warmer in the d 406 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: m V. 407 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: I'll be trying to get out of there. 408 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: So you might get like a ten degree different from me. 409 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: Good. 410 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: Now, you ended the album with Lonely with Shaboozi, and 411 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: I think you performed that last year, right kind of, 412 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: so what Shaboozie already. 413 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 5: On it when you the crazy thing is like the 414 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: whole country way wasn't even like a thing when I 415 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: made that song, Like I was just. 416 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: I do I get. 417 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: I get into it like a zone and there's like 418 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: live instruments in the room if it's just one or 419 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 5: two instruments, and you know, I started humming and you know, 420 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 5: and it ended up leaning into like a I don't 421 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 5: even know what genre that is, but it was there 422 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 5: and he had heard it like in passing a couple 423 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 5: of times, and then I remember one time, like I 424 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: think we was in the he was in the studio 425 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 5: next to me, and then he was like, let's just 426 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 5: let's I want to get on it. And just you know, 427 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: my managers they all they all from the same place. 428 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 5: He's from the d n V. 429 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: And it's just you know, he jumped on it. 430 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: I love that, and I know I can tell from 431 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: listening to this album the sequencing was really important to you. 432 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: So to close it out with that. I saw somebody 433 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: who wrote on social media, I hate that wild At 434 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: is going through so much, but I do love the music. 435 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, my tears watered the flowers for thousands of meat guard. 436 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: That's why I sit on power problems. I know it's good. 437 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: It's entertainment. My pain is entertainment. It's good. It's cool. 438 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: At least I can monetize. 439 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 6: Off right, that sounds dark, though You're good, though, right, 440 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 6: there's a lot I got the sick in to the gimmick. 441 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: Man. 442 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: You know, power problems. You did say your power is 443 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: that you never need no one, and your problem is 444 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: you never need no one. That is an interesting way 445 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: to put it. But I do think it's good to 446 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: not feel like you need anybody. You just know that 447 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: you can rely on someone. Yeah, but then sometimes, like 448 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: you said, the problem is that you never need nobody. 449 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: Sometimes people don't feel. 450 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: It's crazy necessary. 451 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: The brighter the lights are the lonelier things get, you 452 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like you're already in this like 453 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 5: zero zero point one percent of people that do this 454 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: music at this level, and then it's even smaller because 455 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 5: you from this place that that nobody else is like 456 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 5: doing what you're doing. So it kind of just gets 457 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: like really really lonely at times, you know. And that's 458 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 5: why I value like the real friendships that I do have, 459 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, you know. 460 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of with you and cas haile Mania. Yeah, I 461 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: want to hear about. 462 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: And so when I knew you were coming, I was like, 463 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: in Caz coming guest host sometimes, but I thought this 464 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: would be nice to have him here since you weren't 465 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: doing seven PM in Brooklyn. I was like, it'd be 466 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: nice to have him up here, So talk to me 467 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: about that because I know we're going to w w 468 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: E tonight. 469 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 6: Well, big part of that was to focus on this album, 470 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like I remember I remember 471 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 6: we was just talking about it, and you know, that's 472 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 6: my friend first and foremost, you know what I mean. 473 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: So how did y'all get so tight? I'm just carreious. 474 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't even remember, like it was like a moment 475 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: like like I think I was. 476 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: I was. 477 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: I remember the I remember when we got tight, like 478 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: we first met. 479 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: I think he was performing at my school. See I remember, 480 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 3: but we got tight. 481 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: I thought that the source purchase source articles. 482 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: I remember like when it did it like it was 483 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 6: some it was some step brothers, But I think it 484 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: might have been around like time, like I think we 485 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 6: was one of the releases and he was just talking 486 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 6: about like wrestling and then we just like it was 487 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: just talking and I don't know. 488 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: There was some step brothers. He can't get rid of 489 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: a lot of things in common. 490 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 6: But like I said, like he's my friend first and foremost, 491 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 6: so like when I felt like, you know, he really 492 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 6: wanted to focus on his album above anything like that 493 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 6: was that was the that was the focus. So it's 494 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 6: like Willimania is gonna have to take a back seat, 495 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: like if at all, if it comes back at all, 496 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Because just squeeze exactly right, 497 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 6: Like there was so much we were putting out and 498 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 6: obviously you see what happens with the You know, I 499 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 6: think West Side Gun's going through it right now where 500 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 6: he's like putting so much effort into like getting you 501 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 6: know this, can we still go I'm still I'm going 502 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: on after Netflix, so I'm still gonna roll. But you know, 503 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: like he's seeing it too, like and and I and 504 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: I feel for Wes because you know, while A was 505 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 6: at that at that same point with them, at that 506 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 6: point when it was just kind of felt like it 507 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 6: wasn't worth doing all this and not feeling like, you know, 508 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: any real residual benefit, It's like that, so you know 509 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 6: it didn't. 510 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: It didn't. 511 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: You got to appreciate the people who are really like 512 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: organically of course, and. 513 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 6: Then that's and that's what it's always doing while the 514 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 6: man and not to say it'll never come back, but 515 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 6: at that time, it was just like, nah, man, let's 516 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 6: just focus on what's important, which is the music first 517 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 6: and foremost, and then what comes from it comes from. 518 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 5: It whatever, if you can make it easy and like painless, 519 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 5: like of course, we we love to do it for 520 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: the fans. We allowed to do it for the athletes, 521 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: like we love it. But it's just like, man, like 522 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 5: you got other stuff that's going on that might have 523 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 5: like more urgent things going on than that. 524 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like that's. 525 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: Actually a little bit more fruitful for us, like not 526 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: to like not to feel like we a bother or 527 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: something or we got to call make a hunting and 528 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: calls and do all that. 529 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: Like it's just you know, but I like W N 530 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: B A two. 531 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 4: I like I can go out in places you tap 532 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 4: through for that that collaboraly in the year though, how 533 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: is that control together? 534 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: Man? 535 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: Like you know, lightning in the bottle man, Like you know, 536 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: it's good to have records laying around because man, like 537 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 5: some of you, you know what I'm saying. 538 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: So you know that was we made it real easy, 539 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: real easy. 540 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Now, Blanco, we heard that song a while ago as well. 541 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: And so now that you're abstinent, right, what does that 542 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: mean for drinking. 543 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: As little as possible? 544 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: Unless I needed to be one of the industry rooms 545 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: where it's like you know what I'm saying, Like you know, 546 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 5: it's the great equalizer and it make because like I 547 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: don't be really I'm a man of a few words 548 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: in these rooms like you no, it just eases the easiest. 549 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 3: To tension a little bit. But I don't not not 550 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't just be waking up. 551 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Like like, yeah, have there been times that you're like, damn, 552 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: what did I do yesterday? Oh yeah, I already know. 553 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm making this album, Like you know what I'm saying, 554 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: I made that song yesterday. Yeah. 555 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: Man, you talked about how hands on you were, and 556 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 6: not just the writing of the album opposite the production 557 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 6: and then beats and all that type of stuff, but 558 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 6: the sample selections throughout the album I think were extremely 559 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 6: im poorant had pretty way maxwell And. 560 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: The crazy thing is they not It's not like intentions. 561 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 5: It's just like you know, you go through beats, yeah right, 562 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: some days you like to be some days, you know, 563 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: some days you have something on another beat and it 564 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: just kind of played out like that, you. 565 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. 566 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 5: I didn't even realize how much samples was on there 567 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: until like it came out and people was mentioning that. 568 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 6: But they were quality though, like it weren't just like 569 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 6: you know, there's something about like a well placed sample too, 570 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 6: especially when it's when it's coming around like, like you 571 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 6: said on Blanco feels very bluesish. Then you come out 572 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 6: of another song and you hear that like super specific 573 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 6: sound that everybody sort of knows for you for it fits. 574 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 6: It doesn't stick out like a sore thumb, you know 575 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: what I mean. And that's I mean, that's I guess. 576 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 5: It's just like because you know, I don't really be 577 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: mostly I don't think I was with any of the 578 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 5: producers on this joint, Like I was just going through 579 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 5: the emails or whatever. So I really just try to 580 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 5: like put them all there and just keep going like 581 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 5: this to something like resonation, you know what I'm saying, 582 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: Like that, like the fly away, like it just jumped 583 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: out like and I was like, I got right. 584 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: To this, Joe, you know what I mean. 585 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: I just knew one of my favorite songs that album's 586 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 6: called Tomorrow Today because it's such a simple it's a 587 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 6: simple premise. It's about being thirsty, and I don't think 588 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 6: thirsty enough anymore. And uh, something as simple as like 589 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: a late night text or like just be an extra 590 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: about it, like tell me about that. 591 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 4: Right. 592 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: It was just it was a time man, like everybody 593 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: was making these really contrived toxic songs like that. It 594 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: was like like we get it, man, Like all right, bro, 595 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: like we get it like everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 596 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 5: I'm toxic too, like everybody got how about an absolute 597 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 5: left song? 598 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: How about that? How about that? 599 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 5: Like an absolute left song? Okay, I like you now 600 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: what like cool? No tricky stuff like what's up? I'm 601 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: I'm interested in you. I'm trying to court you, now 602 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: what we do instead of like just like yo, like 603 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna cheat on you. Go shoot, And I got 604 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: a bit of it, you know what I'm saying, Like 605 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 5: I just I just needed to break from that. So 606 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 5: I made smart today like that, like I just seen you, 607 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: but I need to see you again. 608 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: Right, It's hard to focus and concentrate. That's a good 609 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: feeling though. They call it the honeymoon phase. 610 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely does that last? 611 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: What's the longest relationship you've been in? 612 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't have a calendar stop it. 613 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: I celebrated an anniversary and been like we've been together 614 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: three years. 615 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if I really celebrate Maybe I don't know. 616 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 617 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 5: Probably like I don't know, I don't I'm actually now 618 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 5: that I'm starting to know, I don't want to say. 619 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 5: When it started coming to me, I'm like, yeah, maybe 620 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 5: you don't want to. 621 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: About that one. 622 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, So let's just an a. 623 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Now belly you sample back to life, back to reality. 624 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I got three hundred person that's sample that joint. 625 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: But you know, as soon as it starts, it gives 626 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: you like a time period feel because that movie was 627 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: so iconic for that. But part of that song is, 628 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: and I feel this, everybody's showing you love when you're 629 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: doing stuff for them, when you're giving them shit. 630 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: And then and as soon as that and no longer 631 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: pretend to be friends. 632 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Mm hmm, I lost I 633 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: lost friends along the way. That's still with us, you know, 634 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 5: And it's part of the whole everything a lot like 635 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 5: that's part of like carrying this bag that I have 636 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: to carry everywhere. 637 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: Like it's like people mad because. 638 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 5: They couldn't get they didn't get a personal invite to 639 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 5: a show. People mad because you can't. 640 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Pay this thing for them, Like yeah, the first time, 641 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: as soon as you say no, you could do everything. 642 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 5: We're going through that now with somebody that's entitled that 643 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: was around us, like you can't do everything. 644 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: Very far all the time. 645 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to cut it off sometimes because I 646 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: think I always think it's great when you can put 647 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: people deserving people in position, right, But then I also 648 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: feel like once people get in position, it's kind of 649 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: up to them to figure. 650 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Out, like how to you know, make themselves. 651 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Out of just being in one position and growing into 652 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: like being able to have a business doing what they 653 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: do for you, instead of just thinking that all along 654 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: you're going to be taking care of everything, right. 655 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 5: Right, I mean we all fall into that. All everybodist 656 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 5: have ever knew because fell into that. 657 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: I feel like. 658 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 5: Some some success athletes, musicians, actors, We all go through it. 659 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: I want to get your thoughts on this. Man. There's 660 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: a lot of talk about Billboard charts. 661 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 6: First time in however many years there was no hip 662 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 6: hop songs in the top whatever, whatever. But if you 663 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 6: ask any like hip hop connoisseur, any writer, anybody who 664 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: covers us for a living, they're all like, has it's 665 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 6: it's as good as it's ever been, you know what 666 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 6: I mean? Like music wise, quality wise, I mean Grammy 667 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 6: nominations came out lots of rappers on there, Like, what 668 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: are your thoughts on you know, just I guess the 669 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: slow down sort of like hyper commercialization. 670 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: I mean I think we might did it a little 671 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: bit too much and it got stale and repetitive and 672 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: like it like the innovation We lost innovation somewhere along 673 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: the way, or we just celebrated low effort and it 674 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 5: put us into place, you know what I'm saying, Like 675 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: people like like liking stuff, liking songs for ironic reasons. 676 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: It's all types of stuff that's been you know what 677 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: I'm saying, like put us to where we're at right now. 678 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: And then you know, the Great Battle of two thousand 679 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 5: twenty whatever, whatever year it's just been going on, were 680 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: on loop with that, Like a lot of media outlets 681 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: only consume that content, only talked about that content. They 682 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 5: lost the plot. Like so I think that hurt it 683 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: a little bit too, because I'm both of them do 684 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: probably tired of it too, you know what I'm saying, Like, 685 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 5: and I think they like it almost like cannibalized itself. 686 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: Like like you know what I'm saying, Like nobody wanted 687 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 5: to hear nothing that wasn't like about another person for 688 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 5: a long period of time, and then we come up 689 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: for air and we realized, like it's only country on 690 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: the charts. You know what I'm saying, it's nothing going on. 691 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: So you know, it was you know, things is necessary, 692 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: but I think like media took it a little bit 693 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 5: too far, like you know, and it just got things 694 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 5: just got out of hand. 695 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: I think, how much does all of this matter to 696 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: you when it comes to numbers, Because as much as 697 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: people are saying I love this album, like I told you, 698 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: number one album that you have, you know, right now 699 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: on the charts, but then sometimes those numbers come out 700 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: and then people are like, oh, this person so x 701 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: amount and it's so different to understand because people are 702 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: streaming and what those streams mean when it comes to 703 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: an actual. 704 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 5: Fifteen hundred for one joint is a task, you know. 705 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: And then you know consider demographics, like you know, certain 706 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 5: fan bases is like thirteen and they got all day 707 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: to listen to the song their favorite song, where like 708 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: older fans they got to be on the clock. You 709 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, They can listen to it on 710 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: the way to work in the gym and on the 711 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: way back. You know what I'm saying that's three streams. 712 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: Like I had to let that go because I really 713 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 5: had to realize like when it became streaming, like because 714 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: I I consider myself more of like a blue collar 715 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 5: I don't. 716 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: It's not like not super g not super like just 717 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: kind of like. 718 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: Every day people used to just lying around corner to 719 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 5: just get to see these CDs. When it went to streaming, 720 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 5: it's just kind of just like all right, these people 721 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: ain't going nowhere, but it's just how we consume music now. 722 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 5: It took some time to just get used to it, 723 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: but now it's just like whatever, Like the music good 724 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 5: is in God's hands. I can't really do nothing about it. 725 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: Man. 726 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: And the other thing I was going to say, you 727 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: talked about country and then we've seen on the R 728 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: and B and gospel charts AI artists. 729 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: I just interviewed the woman who we Gotta Unplug her 730 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 5: man wire AI Heart Surgeon or something something useful. 731 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm gonna tell you what she 732 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: said that was interesting to me though. That made me 733 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: be like, okay, because she's on that platform, so you 734 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: know right where you can. She writes the lyrics and 735 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: then she has this artist, this AI person. But she 736 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: said there's so many people on that platform that haven't 737 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: reached the success that she has, and so and she 738 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: said she's done. Like but she said, she's done like 739 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of songs and none of them have hit until 740 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: you know that she didn't. 741 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: And it's an agenda. 742 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: It's an agenda, like of course somebody gonna make some 743 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: AI thing hit because they don't need they don't need 744 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: to sleep, they don't need to they don't have met 745 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 5: they don't they have to rest their mentals, they don't 746 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: have to go through nothing, So they could just be 747 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 5: like ten albums of slock like you know what I'm saying, 748 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: Like there's no human emotion. We make art for to 749 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 5: connect with other humans. I'm not connecting no robot, you 750 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. 751 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: But I guess her point was that she wrote the songs, 752 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: it's her poetry. 753 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: Then write write it. 754 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: For the write it for somebody who can really like, like, 755 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: you know, she got a three million dollars. 756 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: I don't believe that. 757 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: You don't believe it. 758 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: I could just be like, y'all, I made ten million 759 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 5: dollars a day, y'all saying, yeah, three million dollars for sooner. 760 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: Don't like bro come on like she probably she might. 761 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 762 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: I ain't trying to like talk down on the young 763 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 5: lady or nothing, but I'm like that sounds like something 764 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 5: like she gets a weekly check or something like like 765 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 5: it's an AI. 766 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: You're not I don't know us. You're going tour with 767 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: a teller, a little hologram. 768 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 4: Or something like. 769 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: Even in country the number one song on the country 770 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: charts was an AI song too. 771 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 4: That's a lot. 772 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: We pulled it up in here and it was it 773 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: was bad. 774 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: I was like, that's what I'm saying. 775 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 5: And we were fine close to the sun now, and 776 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: then we're gonna be in this jo next next, next year, 777 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: it's gonna be robot Angelie right there, robout cast And 778 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, here, you want to look this a country? 779 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: Look what you look where we're at now? 780 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: And you'd be sitting here talking to us. 781 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Angelie, what do you think about I'll be the 782 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 3: only human in this. I'm like, I totally. 783 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: You can send your AI get you. 784 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: You first. You can never do me. 785 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 3: I'm the most unaiable person you could. I got too 786 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: many styles. 787 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: You know what he might do? 788 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got too many, too many styles, that is. 789 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: You know what, It's still cohesive though, even even though 790 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: you have so many styles, the way you put this 791 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: album together, I felt like it flows. Sometimes when artists 792 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: do that, it feels like it's all over the place, 793 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: but this feels because you know what it is about, Wila. 794 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 2: It is all who you are for real, you know, 795 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: encompassing like go go afro beats, even like you said, 796 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily country, but it's even the R and B. 797 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: Like you heard my girl from the d MV say 798 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: she loves when you lean into and how well you 799 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: do that. I saw people doing also lists about like 800 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: your top R and B collapse and all of that. 801 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: Now that this project is out too, Yeah, and she 802 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: said something else. I didn't put it in the recording, 803 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: but she was like, Wila is the artist that such 804 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: and such wishes he was. 805 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: So I didn't want to put it out there. 806 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: You don't want to say. 807 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to say no, because then it's going. 808 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: To say in addition to that, though I do want 809 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: to talking about. 810 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: Back to that, I don't want to applaud you for 811 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 6: putting out an album and not this and anybody. 812 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: I feel like that's been the theme for ever. 813 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: Sure everybody, Yeah, I gave a few spends, but it 814 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 6: feels like every major rap. 815 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 3: Anybody was just on that album is they know exactly 816 00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 3: who they are. 817 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: Unintentions, it's just for them. 818 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: Got you the fester and that sit in that so 819 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 3: you won't pushing pushing positivity, but. 820 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: You're always there for them still, right, this is a reason. 821 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: Well, while I really appreciate you for coming up here, 822 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: I know that you've been grinding it out doing all 823 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: these interviews, and I have to say I've I've watched 824 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 2: some of them and it just makes me laugh because 825 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: I'd be looking at you like why I like doing 826 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: this ship? 827 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: So I know this is painful for you being here. 828 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 5: So I mean, just like you know, you come to 829 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 5: a point where you just don't be like y'all got 830 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 5: it man, y'all can think what y'all want. I don't 831 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 5: know what to say to y'all, but it's different. I 832 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 5: know you, so it's a little different. Like I try 833 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 5: to give it my all in. 834 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: The interviews, but no, I know your intentions are always good, 835 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: but I also know you know how I know that 836 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: you overly critique yourself. 837 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: Virgo Yeah, that's what she said to She said he 838 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: got to be a virgo the way. 839 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 5: Like you mean, I'm over critiquing y'all right now. It's 840 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 5: just it's in our nature. Mean, dude, we don't mean 841 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: nothing by it. It's just me, Michael Jackson, Kobe and Beyonce. 842 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 4: It's chill. We just chilling, reasonably successful. Just some chill, 843 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 4: Just some chill. 844 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: There's some chill virgos just doing doing what we do. 845 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: And are your parents impressed? 846 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't. 847 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't know. 848 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't read them no more. 849 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 4: They don't bump, they don't bump the songs, they. 850 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: Don't, man, bro, Because isn't this why you do what 851 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: you said? 852 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: Just want you you know, we wanted, we want we 853 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: want a fit validation for my parents. Oh we all do. 854 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: I always say that's how I know things are good. 855 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: When my mom and dad be excited about something. They 856 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 2: may not tell me, but then other people tell me 857 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: they said it. 858 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 5: That's what That's how I might have to investigate it 859 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 5: like that, like you know what I'm saying, I'll be 860 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 5: trying to just get a reaction out of it, Like yo, yo, 861 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 5: just that's mess steee wonder hell, Like you know what 862 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying, But I mean, I hope she is. You 863 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like a lot of a lot 864 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 5: of Nigerian parents are not like they're not the best 865 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 5: with like emotion, emotions and stuff like that. 866 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: And I've felt the I felt it too because I 867 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: I don't. 868 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: Get know I'm there like dang, you're a Nigerian parent. 869 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 5: I'm not the best with emotions sometimes, you know what 870 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 5: I'm saying. When I put put them in song, it's easier, 871 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 5: but in like like personal environments, I'm not the best 872 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: like conveying my emotions. 873 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: How about that as a dad though, as far as 874 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: you being emotional and nah. 875 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: That little girl be making me, she'd be making me 876 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 5: cry sometimes she's like it's really put put you in 877 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 5: a space like you know means it means the world 878 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 5: to me, you know what I'm saying. But like I know, 879 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 5: she sees like it's just seeing your dad on TV 880 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 5: and not and not being able to be around like 881 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 5: as much. 882 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's a it's a it's 883 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: a it's quite the conungum. 884 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 6: And you mentioned Nigerians before, that and they're usually notoriously 885 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 6: tough critics. 886 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 4: Especially parents or something like that. 887 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: You can say that because you're I guess, But at the. 888 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 6: Same time, you know, it felt like with this album 889 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 6: and just your recent moves, I feel like there's been 890 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 6: a lot more embracing of of not during you know, 891 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 6: the fan base. 892 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 4: You know, the collaboration. 893 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 6: I don't know what it was, but because you've always 894 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 6: you've always made musical other than artists, like you put 895 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 6: me onto the Vato when we went to I think 896 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: you had a music video shoot in Atlanta one day, 897 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 6: like years. 898 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: Ago, Jared Jack, House Jack, That's what it was. 899 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is before we had to pay for 900 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 4: that video. 901 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 3: We had to pavot our own pocket because Atlanta cain't believing. 902 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: I remember that. 903 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, Nous always be like man that Shane was like 904 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 5: five months too early, like. 905 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: Whizy, like everybody we. 906 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 6: Push Shine out Now it looks completely different than Man. 907 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like, yeah, like you. 908 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: You've gotten a lot more embracing on the on the 909 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: fan side, felt it's. 910 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 5: The team though, like yeah, like management, like they like 911 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 5: we knew what this was, but they knew it was 912 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 5: being mishandled before. So you know what I'm saying, We're 913 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 5: making sure we tell the story to proper this time 914 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 5: because I wasn't able. I never was able to tell 915 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 5: a story for real. You know, like when when can 916 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 5: you squeeze in the hey legas some of those states, 917 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 5: where can you squeeze that in? 918 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 3: And on that self made project? 919 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like where can I had 920 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 5: to You know what I'm saying, I had to move 921 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 5: a certain way and now it's being handled with like 922 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 5: kid like I always wanted it to be. 923 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: So you know, how is it when you're in Nigeria? 924 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: I know you were there recently. 925 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: It's expensive. 926 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 5: Uh, people ask you crazy, but it's good, like it's 927 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: good like this is like when we go down those 928 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 5: states that's where my family from, Like we go. It 929 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 5: definitely puts things in perspective, like the lights be going 930 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 5: off at any time, like you know, there's not it's 931 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 5: not like you know what I'm saying, it's not that many. 932 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 5: It's not the resources that we have in the amenities 933 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 5: we got here. Like it put things in perspective, you 934 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But it's always it's like a 935 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 5: recharge though. 936 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: When I when I come back from it's just that 937 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: airport though, that airport Nigeria. 938 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, everything else, look at the airport is crazy and 939 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 5: it's wild wild West in airport. 940 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming through. 941 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: Like I said, it's always a pleasure to see. 942 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: You in the flesh. 943 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 944 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and make sure y'all. I mean, I know everybody's 945 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: buying it, streaming it. 946 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: But keep it going? 947 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 4: Are you everybody? 948 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: Are you listen? 949 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: Trust and believe like I'm always a wild a fan. 950 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: And are you going on tour? 951 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 3: I hope? 952 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 5: So? 953 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: Okay, when well, let's look at these analytics. 954 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: Spoken like an industry guys, that's the AI hope right there. 955 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, AI AI club. 956 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: Promoter, come on, let's lock in all right. 957 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much. 958 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 4: Thank you,