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Speaker 1: Rain Drops.

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is back on tour and

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Speaker 2: my first stop is in Atlanta, Georgia on Monday, February third.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by.

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Speaker 2: Special guests, married to medicine star doctor Heavenly.

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Speaker 1: And baby.

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Speaker 2: We are going to have a good time, so get

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Speaker 2: your tickets. It's available as City Winery Atlanta. Also link

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Speaker 2: in my bio on my Instagram, Twitter pages and don't

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Speaker 2: forget Monday February third at the City Winery in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Carlos King and married to medicine star doctor Heavily.

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Speaker 1: This is a show you do not want to miss.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Twice a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 2: and tweeting about. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King. I'm happy to be reunited with

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Speaker 2: someone who always gives good commentary, good comedy and good

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Speaker 2: old shade and the best thing though, he is in

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Speaker 2: LA and I'm happy to report he is safe. Give

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Speaker 2: it up, y'all for Jack Peterson.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 4: I love coming on here now.

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Speaker 1: You are so fun to talk to.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to the craziness of life, what's

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Speaker 2: been happening in the world of house how are you?

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Speaker 1: You're in La?

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Speaker 2: The wildfires just have been you know, not the best

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Speaker 2: way obviously to start the new year, especially for a

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Speaker 2: lot of my California friends. But my listeners want to

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Speaker 2: know this, and I'll be remiss not to ask you,

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Speaker 2: although we already know personally, But how are you?

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Speaker 3: Love?

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Speaker 1: Everything's okay with you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I live next door to Runyan Canyon. It caught on fire,

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Speaker 3: so that was a lot. I was actually watching The

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Speaker 3: Housewives and Running Canyon was on fire next to me,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't know, because you know, I have a Patreon.

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Speaker 3: I was like, let me watch Housewives and prep for

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Speaker 3: my Patreon. I had the blinds closed, I wasn't looking

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Speaker 3: at the news. And then I get a call and

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Speaker 3: he's like, hey, you know, look outside your window and

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Speaker 3: it was a blazing inferno. But you know, I'm fine.

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Speaker 3: I'm Australian, like I can deal with it. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of people here in LA that are like fleeing to,

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Speaker 3: you know, their holiday home in Palm Springs because they're

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Speaker 3: scared to breathe the ash in the air. It's like, girl,

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Speaker 3: calm down, like if you didn't lose your house, Like

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Speaker 3: you're fine, So we're good.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm happy to hear that you're good. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of you being Australian. I was in Sydney for.

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Speaker 4: A week no way what fall.

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Speaker 2: So a friend of mine, her and her husband were

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Speaker 2: there because he used to He's not Australian, but he

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Speaker 2: used to live there, and they were going on like

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Speaker 2: a trip and they're gonna see his parents. And I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna pronounce this wrong, so don't like, don't make fun

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Speaker 2: of me, Jock is it adelaide?

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Speaker 4: Adelaide?

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Speaker 1: Okay, lady, Okay, I was close.

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Speaker 2: I was close, at least I was close. So his family,

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Speaker 2: his parents lived out there. So they went to Sydney

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Speaker 2: for like a week, and I like bummed along and

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Speaker 2: I love australly.

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Speaker 1: Sydney is so gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: I was there back in twenty ten for work but

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Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to, like, you know, like

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Speaker 2: enjoying myself.

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Speaker 1: But my love, you and all of the off seas

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Speaker 1: are just amazing.

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Speaker 3: I love it's kind of like a clean La Sydney.

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Speaker 1: It kind of gave you that.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because it kind of gave that city vibe,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And the I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about all this shit, but like the.

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Speaker 1: Food, how do you.

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Speaker 3: Job?

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Speaker 1: The food is amazed.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm addicted to American food now. Last night, girl,

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Speaker 3: I had California Pizza Kitchen. Then I got the Lana

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Speaker 3: I had a few gummies, so I had the munchies.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm loving the American food. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: Well, no, we don't want you to die of jock.

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Speaker 2: We need you and your opinion to be around for

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Speaker 2: a very long time. So look, let's get auto to

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Speaker 2: like the Housewives Housekeeping for the week.

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Speaker 1: You are catching up on Potomac.

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Speaker 2: I unfortunately am so behind Potomac, but I kind of

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Speaker 2: the reunion.

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Speaker 1: Karen wasn't there. She's in a recovery center.

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Speaker 2: Her manager released the statement, we're hearing that there is

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Speaker 2: some big moment happening that's going to happen. Excuse me

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Speaker 2: on the season finale? What is going off with Potomac,

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Speaker 2: Jock that you can tell us and share with us,

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Speaker 2: because I, unfortunately have been so busy in Australia, I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, I love Potomac this season, and I almost feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm the only one. I mean, I thought you

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Speaker 2: But not because it isn't good. Not because it isn't good.

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Speaker 2: I okay, it's it's listen. This is what's so sad about,

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Speaker 2: Like the holidays coming around, you travel, you're on vacation,

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Speaker 2: But I am your sister in Potomac because I love

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Speaker 2: the show and I'm loving this season. And so what

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Speaker 2: are people saying about this season that they're not loving

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Speaker 2: so much? Besides Mia storyline, which I have a lot

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Speaker 3: Well, everyone hates Mia so much and hates her story. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's getting a little crazy. I've been on the you know,

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Speaker 3: I feel like people kind.

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Speaker 4: Of overreacting a little bit to me as stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes when a season isn't as dramatic that

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Speaker 3: it was getting a little much because it's like every

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Speaker 3: ago when Jacqueline first came on the show, they caught

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Speaker 3: her and Mia in the shower together famlessly. Well, they

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Speaker 3: Mia got a man ready for Jacqueline and then she

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Speaker 3: Well, no, they went out and they picked up a

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Speaker 4: And it's a lot of TMO, a lot of TMI.

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Speaker 4: And then the last episode.

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Speaker 3: she and Michael were having threesomes and doing all kinds

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Speaker 3: Every flavor in that world. Allegedly. Actually this scene, like

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Speaker 3: Jacqueline's getting ready in the bathroom, Ashley walks in and

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Speaker 3: Like why don't we kiss? And Jacqueline's like, and they

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Speaker 4: I think you're really beautiful, but I don't want Maa

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Speaker 5: As she's like, let's just try it, and then they

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Speaker 5: make out, and then they go to dinner later that night,

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Speaker 5: and then it comes up and then like me is

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Speaker 4: Ashley and Jacqueline are like making out again.

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Speaker 3: At the table and I'm like, Okay, this is like

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Speaker 3: Jocelyn Yes in front.

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Speaker 2: Of a Wait, wait, hold on, because I love Joscelyn

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Speaker 2: Hernandez from Love and Hip Hop and Josin's Cabaret on

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Speaker 2: telling me it's not a Joshin's cabaret?

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Speaker 1: Is giving what.

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Speaker 3: Karen's cabaret, Giselle's cabaret? Something's going on Ashley's cabaret. I mean,

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Speaker 3: these girls are like cooking up with each other and

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Speaker 3: it's it's a lot, but I like it. I think

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Speaker 3: but they think that like Mia and Jacqueline have like

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Speaker 3: like let's come on camera and then start talking about

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Speaker 3: get us attention. But like, I don't know, I'm very confused.

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Speaker 3: I'm I don't know. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I think I love me. I'm a Miya Stan. That's

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Speaker 2: never going to change. I think that's who Mia is

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Speaker 2: and that's who Jacqueline is. I don't I can't see

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Speaker 2: two women who have a history of friendship.

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Speaker 1: And when Jacqueline came on her.

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Speaker 2: First season two seasons ago, and you saw her visibly

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Speaker 2: upset when her and Mia got into it, you can't

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Speaker 2: fake that chemistry, you can't take that friendship. I don't

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Speaker 2: see them making up, cooking up with men with each

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Speaker 2: other as the way of getting attention, because it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Make them both look great in the eye of the public.

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Speaker 2: And Jacqueline, listen, I think the owns everything that she

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Speaker 2: can remember. That's why I called her mea be Lyon.

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Speaker 2: But I think Jacqueline is a little bit more And

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Speaker 2: this may sound strange, but Jacqueline today gives me a

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Speaker 2: little bit more conservative and I just don't think she

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Speaker 2: would be making stuff up either.

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Speaker 1: I believe everything they're saying.

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Speaker 2: I think, listen, we all to look back in our

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Speaker 2: twenties and be like, to our best friend, we did

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Speaker 2: some crazy shit, and I think these two women did

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Speaker 2: some crazy shit, and Mia is willing to put it

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Speaker 2: out there, and I'm willing to watch it because it's

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Speaker 2: real reality.

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Speaker 3: It's a good season. It's underrated. Karen skipping the reunion,

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Speaker 3: so when that news came out, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well she's getting fired. But then it came out that

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Speaker 3: she's going to rehab, and that seems to be the

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Speaker 3: one that seems to be the one way you're able

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Speaker 3: to skip a reunion. If you say you had to

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Speaker 3: go to rehab, that seems to be the clause. Because

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Speaker 3: I think Luanne did that. I think him did that.

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Speaker 2: Kims like, that's that Erica. You would think would be

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Speaker 1: You're one thousand percent right.

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Speaker 2: And I know you do too. I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: So I don't like it personally when the cast is like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you just said that the way she

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Speaker 2: That's indefensible, And it's like, but that's her reality and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I do think that there are a

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Speaker 4: But it's also like that's your job.

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Speaker 3: I pray that they remain friends for seasons to come.

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Speaker 2: Well, child, we are just getting started. This is reality

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Speaker 1: Listen. What I will say is.

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Speaker 2: You can see the genuine curiosity that I think Bowse

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Speaker 1: I think was very very.

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Speaker 2: befriending Dery as hard as she has because obviously, you know,

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Speaker 2: to know her more. And I think Bowse I listen.

440
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: I think both liked refreshingly honest people. And I think

441
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: the moment Durit said Hey, I'm Derey, my husband's alcoholic,

442
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: I have two kids, I think Boss was like, now

443
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: you're my type of chick, because no one else on

444
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: that cast is going to give that level of honesty

445
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 2: on the first meeting. And one thing that I constantly

446
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: see from Bowse is she isn't picking anybody side.

447
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: She really is on the side of right.

448
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: And that's the difference between her and the other friendships

449
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: we see on the show that I questioned both isn't

450
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: befriitting the read because she needs somebody.

451
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: I think she really liked her and by default, like she.

452
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: Tells me, her business was not to like and when

453
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: it came to the other girls, she's like, but no,

454
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: that's what she said. She actually said that, Or like, well, Kyle,

455
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: you text PK what that's not?

456
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think about the text?

457
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: So what do I think of the text? Okay? Look,

458
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: I know that there was nothing. I know there's nothing

459
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: shady going on with Kyle and p K. I believe

460
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: that when they split, she just sent that one text

461
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: because they were already friends and stuff. But I understand

462
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: why it looks bad and now here's the thing when

463
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 3: you're and Kyle actually should know this because being on

464
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 3: the Housewives of Beverly Hills is like playing chess and

465
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: it's warfare and every little thing can be just sect

466
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: and spun into a storyline, and Kyle kind of should

467
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: have understood ahead of time, like, don't say that it's

468
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: just memes and then go and read the text out

469
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: on camera and it's not memes, because then everyone's going

470
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: to say that you're a liar and they're going to

471
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: blow this into something bigger than it really is. Like, really,

472
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: it's one text that you sent when the breakup happened,

473
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: and that's it. But now, of course it's going to

474
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: snowball into something. So I just think that she didn't

475
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: play very smart, maybe because she's just got a lot

476
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: on her Maybe she feels like her back is against

477
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: the wall and she's not used to being in this position.

478
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: She's not used to being at the bottom of the pile,

479
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: and it's the first time that she's finding herself not

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: wielding the power, because definitely since Lisa vander Pump left

481
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: and she was able to successfully get rid of LVP,

482
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: Kyle has just sort of like rained over this show.

483
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: And yeah, now I think it's like she's making mistakes.

484
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: So instead of bottom of the pile, is the bottom

485
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: of the Kyle.

486
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: That could be.

487
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 4: For sure.

488
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna make it that, So there you go.

489
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: The thing is this.

490
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: I would have preferred, And you're one thousand percent right.

491
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: Kyle isn't used to somebody on that show having the

492
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: balls to challenge her. And I think when it came

493
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: through the text, she was called off guard, and I

494
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: think she answered immediately without thinking about like, oh shit,

495
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: let me look back and see what I said to

496
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: this man before I just make shut up. I think

497
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: memes was like just a quick answer to shut everyone down.

498
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: Do I think how for a second is sending anything

499
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: inappropriate to pk A's a freaking litely not right, And

500
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I think KYLEYA was just

501
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: being like, oh, he's our mutual friend whatever, and me

502
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: and dere aren't great right now, so like it wasn't

503
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: a big deal. And I do think Kyle never ever

504
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: saw it being a big deal until she was approached

505
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: by it, so that's that. However, when she showed the screenshot,

506
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: because Kyle's Kyle, I think she knew, let me show

507
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: this first before dere shows at the reunion to where

508
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 2: I will look like a liar. So Kyle had to

509
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: get in front of it before de Reed got it

510
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: from PK because.

511
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: She is still playing small thing because I was saying

512
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: she's not and Minu it's like nor she is actually,

513
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: Oh oh, Kyle.

514
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: Smart, she knew, let me get in front of it

515
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: before the big revealed after reunion comes from de Rey saying,

516
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: you actually was not texting my husband the memes. You

517
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: was actually texting him whatever.

518
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Yea.

519
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: I think Kyle had to get in front of it unfortunately,

520
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: because she doubled down only being memes and it was

521
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: actually like a fucking word document text from chat GPT.

522
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: It's just it doesn't look good and I think listen, Kyle,

523
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: if you're listening or your team is listening, I think

524
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: you have to understand that when you are the queen

525
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: Bee and take this for somebody who worked with Nannie

526
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Leeks and Teresa Judais. One thing that I always encourage

527
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Nini and Teresa and it wasn't like they wouldn't do

528
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: it because they're naturally amazing and great stars. Is girl,

529
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: tell your truth before someone else does. And that's what

530
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: Kyle has to do. This Morgan Wade shit, This Kyle split,

531
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: I mean Kyle Mauricio split and not the PK text

532
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: is too many clouds of doubt around it and Kyle

533
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: needs to learn that you have to get in front

534
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: of it and tell your own truth before somebody else does.

535
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like, why are you staying on this show?

536
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: Then after fifteen years or however long she's been on it,

537
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: If now you're not actually going to share about your

538
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: life yet? Know what?

539
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: Like you're making me.

540
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Look, I'm just watching the season and loving it and

541
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: actually loving everybody on it. Everyone's clocking in, I'm having

542
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: a good time, And now that I'm talking to you

543
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: and reflecting on it, I am a bit like, yeah, KRL,

544
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: what the fuck? Like girl spill or get out of here.

545
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: And the thing with Kyle is to if she did

546
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: come through and she was look, if she was having

547
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: a let's mention it all season like deret is, the

548
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: audience would so rally around her and love her and

549
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: be so into it, Like can you imagine if Kyle

550
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 3: sat down had the conversation about here is my true

551
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: feelings for Morgan Wade and everything that happened, and here

552
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: is why Mauricio and I are separating. People would love

553
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: her and instead she's the most unpopular she's been in

554
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: a very long time. And Derete, who just a year

555
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: ago people saying needed to be fired because of microaggressions

556
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: or whatever, as suddenly like beloved and uh yeah, Kyle's

557
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: not playing it well. I'm actually curious how what is

558
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: Kyle next season gonna be? Like, So is Kyle gonna

559
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: see the reaction to this and go, Okay, I'm gonna

560
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: come into this open like DERI was. Or is she

561
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: gonna like could she walk away from the show?

562
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't know.

563
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: One or two things have to happen.

564
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: And I'm being very honest here, and this is coming

565
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: from a Kyle Richard's stand. Okay, if she doesn't want

566
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: because it's her choice. If Kyle doesn't want to enter

567
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: next season and give her honest to god truth about

568
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: Morgan and Mauricio, she.

569
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Should take the She should just leave.

570
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: The show because it's I'm ana and this is this

571
00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: is my my point. Imagine Teresa Judais saying to the world, Yeah,

572
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: I just do want to talk about Louie, like I

573
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: just I know you guys have all of these questions

574
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: about the videos and the stuff you've seen ex girlfriend

575
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: and the I just don't want to I want to

576
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: remain in my love bubble and I want to focus

577
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: on my four daughters. We would be like, excuse me,

578
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: you're the queen Bee of the show, like you, what

579
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: are we talking about here? And that's how we're all

580
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: feeling about Kyle. It's one of those things where we

581
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: didn't make.

582
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: Up Morgan Wade.

583
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: We didn't pick her out of a cherry, picking out

584
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: of the garden.

585
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: Like you brought on the show.

586
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: You showed us getting matching tattoos with this woman. You

587
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: brought Maurice on this show. You showed us you guys,

588
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: you know, having fun. You give him a lap dance,

589
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: You're doing the splits at a white party, like these

590
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: are things you showed us. So when things aren't great,

591
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: you can't then choose to say, what's my personal life?

592
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: And it's like since when?

593
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: And you would think, listen, no one on that show

594
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: has ever in the history of the Real Housewives, and

595
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: Billy Hills had a tough season like Erica Jane. And

596
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: Erica Jane was herself and she was true and she

597
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: said things that we all were like, girl, know if

598
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: that's true? Girl is known like a blizzard Pasadena. Girl,

599
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Like wait, what's going on?

600
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Girl?

601
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: We were all questioning it, but it was her truth

602
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: and we all love her earth and she gained more

603
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: fans than haters when it was all said and done

604
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: because in the end she kind of is midicated, do

605
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

606
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: So I say this now, people love Erica Cup. People

607
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: are loving to read because they're like, wait, you smoke cigarettes? Girl? Okay, wait,

608
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: what's going on with you in PK? Wait? Wait what's

609
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: huh you're coming for?

610
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: Wait?

611
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Wait what you're telling you're calling milk? The C word

612
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: is saying you want a moment. That's what Kyle should

613
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: have gave Son of Garcel. You guys want a moment.

614
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: It's because your storylines is like read the girls, don't

615
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: sit things be like and get you know what I mean?

616
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: Like Ky actually went off, Sorry to cut you off now,

617
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: just like imagining, like if she snapped at something in

618
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: that moment and just went off with her, Like, girl,

619
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: you do this to everybody. You were kicking people when

620
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: they are down. You are always trying to bring people

621
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: stuff up, like let's talk about you, let's talk about

622
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: your drinking, let's talk about your and like throw it

623
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: back at her and just eviscerate her.

624
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

625
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: I mean that would have been a moment instead of

626
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: just sitting there going what infidelity?

627
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: Who had infidelity?

628
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: No?

629
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: I didn't like no, no no no right no no

630
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: no no no.

631
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: So again, the only way Kyle is going to win

632
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: in this game of reality television.

633
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, you gotta.

634
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: Follow the playbook of Teresa of Dread of aka Jane,

635
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: and you have to give the truth. And if you're

636
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: not willing to do that, then fine, this is your

637
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: real life.

638
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: Then take a break from the show.

639
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: But it's not fair for the audience who's been in

640
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: bed with you, no pun intended for fifteen years, and

641
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: we're being cheapened by that because when you have girls

642
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: like the Salt like city women who are hungry and

643
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: they are giving their blood, sweat, tears and text messages

644
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: to each other that's the kind of reality TV we

645
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: want like that segway.

646
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: O.

647
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: I was like, yes, call me, call me with you Goldberg, Hodeye.

648
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: I am a great moderator, thank you, and this is

649
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: what my view. Okay, so here we go.

650
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about me and my family.

651
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm teasing. Let me tell you something.

652
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Hi Caroline Manziel, who, by the way, send me a

653
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: sweet text the other day.

654
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean a few weeks ago.

655
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: Hi.

656
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: No, I love Caroline Manzel. Hi Carolina Manzel, Happy New Year.

657
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: Okay, Patre doesn't like her. Sorry to cut you off,

658
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: but I interviewed Patre the other day and I asked

659
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: her about Ultimate Girl's Trip, and she was saying it's

660
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: one of the best things they've ever filmed. She started,

661
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: I didn't even bring up Brandy because I was trying

662
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: to keep it very professional, not bring up anything too spicy,

663
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: and she brought up Brandy on her own and was

664
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: totally defending Brandy and saying how amazing Brandy is, and

665
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: that I think she called what Caroline did fictitious drama

666
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: or something like that. So she's very on team Brandy

667
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: and the whole cast, and very upset that the season's

668
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: not airing, so thanks for that, Caroline.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, oh well, listen.

670
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: There's two sides of every story, and maybe one day

671
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: we'll hear both. Maybe maybe I will sign up for

672
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: that pay per view. Thank you so much, job. And

673
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: this is coming from me. Okay, the Real Housewives of

674
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, and I'm gonna be very honest here.

675
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: It's a show I did not want to like, and

676
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm not a hater. I just I was sort of

677
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very honest with you. So when the

678
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: show was person announced, I was like Salt Lake City

679
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: like whatever, like who you know what I mean?

680
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: It was very this is me like who cares?

681
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 3: Like?

682
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't care because it was so many.

683
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: Housewives coming from the guy that does shows in like

684
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: Huntsville and stuff. You're like, Scot like, even though you've

685
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: read this huge show in Huntsville.

686
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: That's the perfect clap back. That is amazing.

687
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: I have the biggest show, the number one show on

688
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: called Love and Marriage Huntsville, Pelabama, and here I am

689
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: like slig City, who cares?

690
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: Right?

691
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: So I was just like I'm busy, I don't have

692
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: time whatever? And then I saw gen Shaw and I

693
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: was like, well, she's interesting. Then I saw Mary Cosma.

694
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, well she's interesting, and then all of my

695
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: rain drops said carlos Ley, watch it. So I watched

696
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: season one before season two started it, I'm like, what

697
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: a bad show.

698
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Then I watched season two.

699
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: Amaze, right, like amazing, and then long story short, I'm like,

700
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch anymore. Gen Shawn's going to jail.

701
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna waste my time. So I didn't watch

702
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: season three a lot of it. Then season four happened

703
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: and Monica Garcia came on, and all the rains drops Jock,

704
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: including you and our friend a Liza Rosen was like,

705
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: you have to watch Salt Lake City. This Monica girl

706
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: is amazed. I started watching it, fell in love with it.

707
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: Monica's gone from the show, so I'm like, I'm not

708
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 2: watching season five. I watched the first episode. I thought

709
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: it was performative. Once again, the rain drop set you

710
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: gotta watch it. This Brahm and the woman is everything.

711
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, leave me alone, I'm busy the real housewatch

712
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: is so City.

713
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Is one of the best shows on TV.

714
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this without seeing the reunion so

715
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm only gonna talk about this season. The Real Housewives

716
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: of Salt Lake City is tied with the Real Housewives

717
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: of Orange County as the best on Bravo.

718
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: It's I I'm a.

719
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Fan, and those women work hard and every Housewives franchise

720
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: that is New York City, Potomac.

721
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Watch Salt Lake City. These women are hungry and they

722
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: want to be the best. And that finale was superb

723
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: tense across the board.

724
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: And before I'll let you speak, Jock shout out to

725
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: the producer. Whoever came I don't think it was Heather,

726
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say that on the record, I don't

727
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: think I don't think the Heather.

728
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Came up with this.

729
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: Whoever came up with the idea of these women reading

730
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: the most vicious text they said about each other. That

731
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: is the most genius thing I have seen on the

732
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Real Housewives in the past five years.

733
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I have so much to say. I'm gonna say,

734
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: first of all, I do think Heather came up with

735
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: that game, because Heather is so obsessed with like Bravo

736
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: and pop culture, like to the point if you remember

737
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: on the really boring Thailand Ultimate Girls Trip, she even

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: read like Leah McSweeney's biography, like she'll read all the

739
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: Housewives biographies, like you know, she has her little Oscar

740
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: speeches were husted before. I mean that fucking speech that

741
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: she gave the end.

742
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: But that's the reason.

743
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: But Jock, that's the reason I was like, listen, Heather Gay,

744
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: I give props to due.

745
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: She is so performative.

746
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: But for some reason, I'm not every bad at it

747
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: because it provides something as amazing as that text.

748
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: Well, go ahead, she She's fucking incredible, like the whole cast.

749
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: And I will say that.

750
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Salt Lake City from seasons four

751
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: to five packaged together, it's I mean it's ascended Bravo,

752
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: Like it's literally like you could rank that up there

753
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: with like the if you're ranking all the best shows

754
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: that have been on TV, like Succession and like White

755
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: Lotus and all the HBO shows, like you can put

756
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: it up there like it is that fucking good. And

757
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: I also want to apologize because I was a hater

758
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: of Salt Lake for many years, like you were. I

759
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: never bought into the hype when Bravo rolled it out,

760
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: and I was kind of thinking about it because now

761
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: that I've been so obsessed with seasons four and five.

762
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: I'm going back and I'm watching all these clips from

763
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: seasons one, two, three, and I'm like loving it. And

764
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: I think that like salt Lake came out at a

765
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: weird time, but think it premiered right as the pandemic

766
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: was hitting, and it was just like a big shift

767
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: in Bravo programming because one through COVID, the audience and

768
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: the social media exploded where it became all about the

769
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: Instagram and the memes, the and the blogs and the

770
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: podcasts and stuff. And I think the women were becoming

771
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: a lot more self aware across the board, and it

772
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: was just like Housewives as a franchise was entering kind

773
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: of a new era and there was some like teething pains,

774
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: and I think I just kind of took me a

775
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: minute to kind of like get what salt Lake was

776
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: and to understand the tone and the campiness of it

777
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: and that they are a lot more self aware, and yes,

778
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: it is like more produced, and now that I'm there,

779
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I mean, it blew me away. And

780
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: I never thought they could top season four with Monica,

781
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 3: Like I thought the season would probably be pretty good,

782
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: but I was just like, how do you? And I

783
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: agreed with them getting I agreed with them getting rid

784
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: of Monica. I know that you didn't originally, but I

785
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: was like, no, they have to because like it's the

786
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: same with how they had to get rid of a

787
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: Lexus on Oc like love Alexis, love Monica, but like

788
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: you're just going to repeat the same shit again if

789
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: you don't remove this huge personality, Like you absolutely have

790
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: to do it. But I'm like, how can they even

791
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 3: like how could they even come close to season four?

792
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: They talked season full? Season five was better, Like I

793
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: was shocked, like braun One, like Britney, like every.

794
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Honey and honey, Honey, Honey, honey honey, brahmin tance across

795
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: the board.

796
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Brittany.

797
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: I love Britney ten because she's a this is the

798
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: compliment Brittany.

799
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: In punching Bag and and kind of a whack of dude.

800
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: But like in the best way possible. But I'm gonna

801
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 2: tell you who my favorite is. You're about to gag.

802
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: Angie k is something I've never seen on TV. She

803
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: her facial reactions is priceless. The moment between her and

804
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: Mary where Mary, I mean, listen, Mary is the goat, right,

805
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: I love the whole Okay, Carlos, calm down, Calm down,

806
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: go one by one, you're too excited.

807
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: Calm down, girl. Okay.

808
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 2: Look, Angie K is something I've never seen on TV before.

809
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with her.

810
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: She is beautiful, she's funny, she's vulnerable, she can check you,

811
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: she reads the girls, she's shady. She the moment pything

812
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: her and Mary where she was like you changed my

813
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: life and I was like, what was happening? And I

814
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: believed it. I believed it. Mary crying about it.

815
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 5: It was.

816
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: I mean, ANGIEK with a high body count, like and

817
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: I got a chance to meet her. Two jock when

818
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: I say to you, I met her at this Kathy

819
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: Hilton thing, and she's better in person in the sense

820
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: of like, that's who she is. I met all this

821
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Tartlake City House wishs except Meredith and Heather. They weren't there.

822
00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Lisa Barlow, Whitney, Angie K, Mary Cosby, and Broadwind. There

823
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: are exactly in real life who they are on camera.

824
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: And this cast is stellar.

825
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: And I have not been impressed with a full cast

826
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: where they're all a players.

827
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Since Potomac Season.

828
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: I think Potomac season five, where like I felt like

829
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: that entire cast was hungry and the clocked in Sallect City.

830
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: They want it and they deserve it, and it's fantastic

831
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of them as a producer because

832
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: when I look at the Sallect City cast, it's the

833
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: cast that every producer dreams of having.

834
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 4: Well, everyone is there to work and do their job

835
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: and bleed for the show.

836
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the same way that Bane pom

837
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: Rules used to do in the early seasons, like yeah,

838
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you everything, and it's so much

839
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: harder to get that out of you know, women that

840
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: are a bit older, that are established, that have husbands

841
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: that have you know, if you're young and drinking and

842
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: partying and you want to be famous, of course you've

843
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: got to put it all out there, like the banda

844
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: Pump people did, but like to get housewives to do

845
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: it is a lot harder and also storylines aside, and

846
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: the storylines are incredible. The comedy is incredible. I like

847
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: Salt Lake the best as far as the fashion, because

848
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: there's you've got high fashion girls on there, but then

849
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: you have this like campiness to it, where like you

850
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: know Mary will wear something crazy or Bronen will wear

851
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: something crazy or whatever, and you know Angie with the

852
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: big sunglasses. But then it's against these beautiful snowy backdrop.

853
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: So they'll come out in like hot pink with the

854
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: shades and it's like popping against the white snow.

855
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: It's just like everything just.

856
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: Looks so beautiful and like it just has it has everything.

857
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: I mean, even like with Britney, you know, she was

858
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: a friend of and like, you know, she had like

859
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: one of the best moments of the season when Jared

860
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: showed up to that when she was on the date

861
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: with the other guy, and I was just like everything

862
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: about it, and yes, that coming up with the game

863
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: at the end to like, let's read the nastiest thing

864
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: we've ever said about each other on our phone.

865
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: And I do believe that Heather came.

866
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: Up with that because I had the thing's like a

867
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: producer and Heather even like she doesn't even hide it,

868
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: Like she goes in press interviews and she's like, yeah,

869
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: like this changed my life, Like now I actually feel

870
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: like I'm somebody. And like when she went on that

871
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Girl's trip, she was like fangirling overre like she was

872
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: like on there like a fan. So I believe that

873
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: she wanted to outdo last season, and I think.

874
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 4: She was little wheels in her brain, but how do

875
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: I do this?

876
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: And she came up with that whole speech at the end,

877
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: and it was so forced, but it.

878
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: Was like real as well, you know what I mean.

879
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: Like it's not like she was saying stuff that's untrue,

880
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: just everything.

881
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: So everything, let's get into it. The moment that.

882
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: The moment that Angie k gave Brahm and her phone

883
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: to read the text. The reason why I love Bronwyn

884
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: is because she's real and she's natural and she and

885
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: like you said, she bleeds the cast bleeds, but her

886
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: the way she bleeves is very different because she wasn't

887
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: even able to read it, you know, because she was

888
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: crying just by, you know, peeking at exactly what Angie

889
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: said about her. I mean, the shit that Angie said

890
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: about I don't want to be a trumpy wife like her,

891
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: the fact that her husband has one foot in the

892
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: grape and another on a banana peel.

893
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: Angie's so mean. Here's something that I've been saying for

894
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: a while is I love Angie by the way, So

895
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: this isn't even shade to Angie, but it's like Angie's

896
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: definitely letting the popularity go to her head and she

897
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: clearly has a very very mean side, and she's just

898
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: going to have a big fall from Grace at some point.

899
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: Like that's a prediction, yes, And I also my other prediction,

900
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: and I think it's actually already starting to come true.

901
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: But when the season started, everyone was hating Heather and

902
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 3: they were like, why does she have this thing against Bronwyn?

903
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: And now I think that we're getting towards the end

904
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: people asking how messy Bronwyn is. And I really think

905
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: the Head is going to be very vindicated in that

906
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: her original assessment of Bronwin kind of being calculated in

907
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: two faced, is going to prove to be correct. So

908
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: those are my two predictions.

909
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: What is your prediction on Let me tell you something.

910
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: I want Lisa Burlow on every show in the world.

911
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: I listen the whole I'm listen, producer, Kaz all you

912
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: guys get a gold Star the whole, Like game of

913
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: everybody dressed up as Lisa was hilarious.

914
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: The fact that.

915
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: Whitney, by the way, Whitney, you are gorgeous, but baby

916
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Aza Brunette stunning like gorgeous, right, but the.

917
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Fact that.

918
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Jock she kept a tag on her outfit and then

919
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: purposely walked away and Lisa immediately caught it. Let me

920
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: tell you someth about Lisa Barrolow and why Lisa Brallo

921
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: is amazing and a queen. The stuff that Lisa Bralo

922
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: says could be seen as like not problematic and the

923
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: like the consciousness, but more so like okay, girl, you

924
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: are beautiful, you are wealthy, but we don't talk about it.

925
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: I want the fact that she's like, no, bitch, I'm

926
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: gonna talk about it. So the fact that she's dissing

927
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: Whitney and her status in the world, her businesses, talks

928
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: about how she has everything and when we get to

929
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: the dinner table and Whitney, which, by the way, great play, Whitney,

930
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 2: because you could have found a safer text the way

931
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: that Lisa found a safer text with Mayor, because Lisa,

932
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: I love you. But girl, by, if you think for

933
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: one second, that's the meanest shit in your text, girl

934
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: By anyways, Whitney was like I'm gonna get you, bitch,

935
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: one way or the other. The accusation that Lisa Barlow

936
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: is in some sort of like three summer relationship with

937
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: her husband and that there's things happening to where he's

938
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: getting This is an explicit podcast of mothers, fathers, Hi,

939
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: the kids.

940
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: Put the HiPhones on the whole jerking off thing.

941
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, but Lisa Barlow's reaction to it, jock, are

942
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: you fucking kidding me?

943
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: And she was visibly.

944
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: Upset, as I would be too if you're coming from

945
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: my husband and his reputation.

946
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: I would have lost it.

947
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 4: But it's also like Whitney.

948
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: Whitney's so like he's very underrated and a lot of

949
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: people hate Whitney, and I used to be a Whitney

950
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: hated because she is like really annoying, But it's like

951
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: she knows how to to push your buttons. In certain moments,

952
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: she knew exactly what the fun she was doing, and

953
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: it was so funny. Also, of course you're obsessed with

954
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: Lisa because look, no shade, but you kind of gravitate

955
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 3: to a certain type of housewife that has a certain

956
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: type of personality disorder where they are utterly delusional and

957
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 3: they cannot apologize for anything or ever see even zero

958
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 3: point five percent of what they've done wrong, Teresaitnini Lisa Barlow. Now,

959
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: of course that is your favorite, the most difficult, just

960
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 3: insane person on the cast with an ego the side

961
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: of Mount Everest, so.

962
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: Those listen.

963
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: I love a girl who is very confident. She thinks

964
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: highly of herself, She's ambitious.

965
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I love the type of girl. I love Lisa Barlow.

966
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: She she the self awareness of not there and I

967
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: fight it comical because we live in a world and

968
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: you know this popular JP podcast on Patreon, Make sure

969
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: you guys subscribe. The thing is this people are playing

970
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: as safe on TV, and I appreciate the fact that

971
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: she says things like being mad at seventeen c a

972
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: coach c on a forty five minute flight. A lot

973
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: of these girls will feel that way behind the scenes,

974
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: but we'll never talk about it on camera because it

975
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: sounds very much like girl be happy on a plane.

976
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: So I love that about her.

977
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: But do you think Lisa was overreacting when she read

978
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: Whitney's text message and did she forget what the game

979
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: was about?

980
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: No, because it's like it's one thing to shade me

981
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: over having tags and stuff. If you're on a fucking

982
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 3: television show and it's complete because I don't believe that.

983
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: That rumor is true at all.

984
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Me neither.

985
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna bring that up on camera and

986
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: come for my marriage, like that's like a sacred thing,

987
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 3: Like you did not need to do that.

988
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: I mean, she didn't need to bring Angie into it.

989
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: Now, why am I in it?

990
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: Like she didn't need it Andie was about to fuck

991
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: her up like leap Andie's husband allow. I think it's

992
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: so rude at this point, but go ahead.

993
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: No, it's it's horrible. And they clearly have a good marriage.

994
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, we all thought he's a little how

995
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 3: you doing, but like I don't know, they seem happy.

996
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: So no, shade.

997
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: He spends a lot of time on leg day. I

998
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: will say that he's not skipping leg day or glue day,

999
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: that is for sure.

1000
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: But I can't.

1001
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: The thing with Lisa Barlow though, and this is what

1002
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: I predict will be Lisa Barlow's downfall. And I love

1003
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: her and I interviewed her once actually and she was

1004
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: very Okay, here's something I'll say a bit of a

1005
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: bar but you know, I kind of thought it was

1006
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: unfair that they had fired Jenny Neuwan or Jenny Wynn

1007
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: or whatever. I would have rather they just addressed what

1008
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: the issue was on the show. I don't think she

1009
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: has as much money as she says, because it's like,

1010
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 3: you know, people to talk about how much sex they have,

1011
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: they're usually the ones that are getting at the least.

1012
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: And I think that it's like the tag. There could

1013
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: be some truth to the tag thing. That's why Whitney

1014
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: did it. And I think at some point my prediction

1015
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: with Lisa Barlow is that someone is going to get

1016
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: some receipts on her that she has done something that

1017
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: like you know, she's renting her home or whatever, or

1018
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: like something that's going to like crack this facade that

1019
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: she's built that she doesn't have all of the money

1020
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: and all of the things that she claims to have.

1021
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 4: And then I feel like she might.

1022
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: In that egomaniac type of way, she won't be able

1023
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: to take any accountability. She won't be able to and

1024
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 3: or being cornered, and she might kind of like implode

1025
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: a bit like Niini did, or like run off the

1026
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: show like Lisa vander Pump did.

1027
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 4: That is my Lisa Barlow one day prediction.

1028
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Ooh, so you don't think that'd be Meredith, who likes

1029
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: to leave.

1030
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, I think now I like

1031
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: that they'd kind of acknowledged that Meredith just rents a

1032
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 3: house in Utah to film the show then goes back

1033
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: to New York and it doesn't really seem to be

1034
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: an issue. But I mean, I think if I was

1035
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 3: thinking this season that if anyone's going to go, it

1036
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: might be Meredith because she didn't have as much going on.

1037
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: But then she has those kind of like pill popping

1038
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 3: freekouts that go viral, and then everyone likes when she's

1039
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: slurring and stuff, and it's like, I feel like she's

1040
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: going to keep her snowflake just as long as she

1041
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: has those meltdowns.

1042
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: No, the meltdown that she had the backseat of the

1043
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: car with with Brittany if the hand I can watch

1044
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: that a gazillion time is so funny and it's amazing.

1045
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: But the thing is this, how do you feel though

1046
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: about Whitney contacting Monica, Like did you feel like that

1047
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 2: was sort of like a precursor to the audience of like, hmm,

1048
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: maybe they'll bring Monica back next season, or do you

1049
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: think Whitney was being shady and the doors closed with

1050
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: Monica anyway.

1051
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: I do not think the door is closed with Monica

1052
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: at all, and I do not think that the door

1053
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: is closed with.

1054
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: Jen Shaw either.

1055
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: As soon as Jenshaw gets out of prison, she is

1056
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: walking back onto that show absolutely without a doubt, and

1057
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 3: they keep reducing the sentencing. And sorry, I'm getting off

1058
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: on a little bit of a tangent, but I was like,

1059
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, from the first premiere of The Salt

1060
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: Lake City, I hated gen Shah and I was on

1061
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: her ass. I'm like, this woman is lying, she's not

1062
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: had this money or whatever, and I was cheering for

1063
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: her going under and going to jail and prison and

1064
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: all that stuff. And now that I've become like this

1065
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 3: Salt Lake stand I'm like, now I'm rooting for the

1066
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: sentence to be reduced.

1067
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, I need this.

1068
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: Girl, I need this criminal back on the small screen

1069
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: to watch. And yes, I definitely think that. I definitely

1070
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: think they have the door open for Monica. But it's

1071
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: also like they're not going to force it. It's gonna have

1072
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: to be at a time when the group is ready

1073
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 3: to have her back, and that it makes sense for

1074
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: the show. But they're definitely keeping that open there, and

1075
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 3: I think Monica knows it because Monica.

1076
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 4: Has like.

1077
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: I think she did a podcast with up An Adam

1078
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: and then she was like refusing to talk about Salt

1079
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 3: Lake City or to recap it on there and he's like,

1080
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, and then the podcast disappeared after like

1081
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 3: three episodes or something, and I think she's like purposely

1082
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: like not wanting to take that leap into like I'm

1083
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: going to be like a Salt Lake recapper now, because

1084
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: she is banking on getting back there, and I do

1085
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: believe the producers told her just kill when the moment's right,

1086
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: we're going to have you back on. But it's like,

1087
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how she's gonna get through Heather because

1088
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: Heather is like not caan to have money go. Yeah.

1089
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: I think Monica.

1090
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: Knows a lot about Heather, and I think Heather is

1091
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: preventing her and having the cash joined in on her

1092
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: allegedly to make sure that doesn't happen, because I think

1093
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: I think heathern knows Monica knows shit and she does

1094
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: not wanted to get out.

1095
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: But if you would have told me, I would have.

1096
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: Enjoyed this season as much as I did last season,

1097
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: I would have called you a fucking liar, Camille, do

1098
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Hey, Kyle, I would have

1099
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: definitely been like, there's no way. I It's to the

1100
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: point where I am even like shocked at myself for

1101
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: how much I've enjoyed Salt Lake City, because I just

1102
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: didn't think it would have what it takes. But it's

1103
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: a testament to again, I like to always give the

1104
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: cast and crew their props. It's a testament to the

1105
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: cast and crew for delivering a seasons that they know

1106
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: like we have to be a part of the conversation.

1107
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: And it reminds me of how Potomac used to be.

1108
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Potomac was always in the shadows of Atlanta for obvious reasons,

1109
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: and I just remember those Potomac girls being hungry and like, no,

1110
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: we can stand on our own without being compared to Atlanta.

1111
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: And at one point they did do that, right. But

1112
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: I think as of today, I think OC, you and

1113
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: I both agree, had another amazing season and I have

1114
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: to give the newbies of Salt Lake City, like it

1115
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 2: really is becoming possibly the best Bravo show that I've

1116
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: scene on air right now, tied with OC.

1117
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: It's that amazing. It really, it really is a great show.

1118
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't tie it with OC though, I mean OC

1119
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: is OC is my personal number one favorite, but it

1120
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: OC that still felt like a top tier season of

1121
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 3: Housewives Salt like felt like something different, Like it felt

1122
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: like I was saying this shit should be on HBO,

1123
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: Like this is kind of like a different level than

1124
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: even what like Housewives is doing.

1125
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: I want to get your take on two things.

1126
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: I want to know where we go from here, and

1127
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: but before that, I want to know, how do we

1128
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: explain Mary being what she was previously to then this

1129
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 3: season suddenly clocking in being vulnerable, being likable, being able

1130
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: to just like do fun activities with Like it's like

1131
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: a different person, Like she still had the same shade

1132
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: and the same brutal honesty. Like I'm every episod I

1133
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 3: was shocked of, Like, who is this Mary compared to

1134
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 3: the insane person that I saw for years before?

1135
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: The thing is this?

1136
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: I think this, and this is why I always tell people,

1137
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: if you need to leave a season for your mental health,

1138
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: whatever you're going through, then then then you should do

1139
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: what's best for you and your mental health.

1140
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: Right. I think Mary signed on to.

1141
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: Do the show, because who you know who? We're in

1142
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. You want me to be on TV

1143
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: as fun as whatever?

1144
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1145
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: And I think I heard this and you may have two,

1146
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: that she was like the first person cast from.

1147
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. That's what I heard. I don't know

1148
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: if it's true or not, but I heard that somewhere.

1149
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: And I think she never understood the power of this medium.

1150
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: And I think as we are seeing now with her

1151
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: son being brave to talk about his addiction issues, I

1152
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: think she was going through a lot of personal stuff

1153
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: that she just couldn't handle. And I think the break

1154
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: did her some good. I think, listen, there's nothing like

1155
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: being missed and people begging for your return, right, And

1156
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: I think she got it, but I think she needed

1157
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: to be away from it for a year and missed

1158
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: it again because when I look at her, I'm like you,

1159
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love her more and she's she's so

1160
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: good and I believe she likes ANGIEK.

1161
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fake at all.

1162
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: And the scene with her and her son, that's when

1163
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: I knew, like, oh, this is different Mary.

1164
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: I think Mary.

1165
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: Understood the power of the show, and I think that's

1166
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: what's going on with her. To answer your second question,

1167
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 2: where do the cast and the show go from here?

1168
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: And it's funny, souse. I thought about that.

1169
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: After I washed the finale and I said to myself, huh,

1170
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: where do they go from here?

1171
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: Because how can you top this season?

1172
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: And I don't have the answer right now in terms

1173
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 2: of where they go, but I will say this, everybody

1174
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,919
Speaker 2: deserves a chance to come back. And I think when

1175
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: it comes to Brownwin and g and Brittany as like

1176
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: the newbies, I think there is an opportunity for those

1177
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: women to really usher themselves, to be more vocal and

1178
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: to give more to the show. Not that they haven't

1179
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: given all to the show, but there's an opportunity for

1180
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: like a shift in the hierarchy. I think at the

1181
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: end of the day, we all know it is what

1182
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: it is. I think there will always be heralded as

1183
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 2: like the queen Bee of the show. I think, listen,

1184
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: even I can say that right with all the things

1185
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: that I I feel about Heather being dangerous by blaming

1186
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: a producer of The Black Eye, I would never like that,

1187
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 2: but I'm also honest and smart. She will always be

1188
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: heralded as the queen Bee because those ladies, they see

1189
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: her that way, and that was evident at the dinner

1190
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 2: table in the finale. Nobody read a shady Heather at text,

1191
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that's that's her. But

1192
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: I think there's something there's and and again, there's something

1193
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: magical about this brand Brittany, Angie and braun Win that

1194
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: screens the opportunity to take a leap in terms of

1195
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: a leader position, not the queen Bee, but a force multiplier.

1196
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: And I do think, I do think, I do think

1197
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: bringing on somebody knew will make this show continue to

1198
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: be the best house live.

1199
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 3: I'm rada, Yeah, I do think they need to bring

1200
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: another new person in for sure to keep this going.

1201
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 4: I don't know where they go with Brittany.

1202
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: And I say that as a Britney stand It's just

1203
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: like to me, Brittany is ten out of ten for

1204
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 3: the season, but she was like ten out of ten

1205
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: as a friend. I cannot see her being a full

1206
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: time because she can't read at all and these girls

1207
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: can read like she cannot read at all, like I don't.

1208
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: She almost doesn't even know how to go back and forth.

1209
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: And then a couple of times when she did try

1210
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: to initiate a conflict. It felt contrived and she got

1211
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: splattered because she tried it with Bronwin early on, where

1212
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: she was like, are you attracted to your husband? And

1213
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: Bronwin just like destroyed her and she looked bad. And

1214
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: I also think she lies a lot. I think she

1215
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: lies constantly.

1216
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 4: Love her and I don't.

1217
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: I think they're harmless lies, you know what I mean.

1218
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 3: It's not like anything crazy, but so she's not full

1219
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: time material. And then I think about who could they

1220
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: bring back. I do think next season we should get

1221
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 3: a Monica cameo, even if it's not just even for

1222
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 3: the trailer to make the trailer pop, Like I think

1223
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: she's still yeah, And.

1224
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: I also think bring her back towards the end of

1225
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: the season as like a you know, I agree with that.

1226
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think maybe she's still friendly with Mary,

1227
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: so maybe like she could just go over to Mary's

1228
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: to have a conversation. Bam, you've got the Monica scene.

1229
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: I do miss Angie Harrington. I really liked Do you

1230
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: remember Angie Harrington? She was one of the friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1231
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: and she had Lisa's number kind of early on because

1232
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: I think it was in season two they got into

1233
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: an issue where basically I think Lisa Barlow found out

1234
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 3: that Angie was throwing like the first party of the season,

1235
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 3: and then Lisa Barlow got the caterers or whatever to

1236
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: like pull out of Angie's party, and then of course

1237
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: Lisa didnt was crying on camera and saying that she

1238
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 3: didn't do it, and all it was like she clearly did.

1239
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 4: So I would like Angie Harrington back, but yeah, I.

1240
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: Think we need someone new, and yeah, I'm very interested

1241
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: to see where it goes, and I want to see

1242
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: if anyone gets demoted, because I do always wonder, like

1243
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 3: with Meredith and Whitney, sometimes I do feel like they

1244
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: get close to like maybe getting let go, And sometimes

1245
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 3: it's one of those things where like sometimes a really

1246
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: good cast member has to be let go, like an

1247
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: Alexis Bollino for example, or a Montica Garcia, because it's like,

1248
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: you know what, we have to shift the energy. We

1249
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: can't risk, like we just have to change up this

1250
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: dynamic and make something new and fresh happen. And sometimes

1251
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: someone unfortunately has to be a casualty and get tipped out.

1252
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: So it kind of wouldn't shock me if they actually

1253
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 4: got rid of an OG just to shake it up.

1254
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: I think they will get rid of an OLG.

1255
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: I think an OG will either be demoted or get

1256
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, their walking papers. I agree with you one

1257
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: thousand percent. I think Britney should remain a friend of

1258
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: and I think that's fine. One thing Marlo Hampton I

1259
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: talked about that I said on my own podcast, and

1260
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: she shared this too recently. Marlow was actually a housewife

1261
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: her first season four, but she turned it down and

1262
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: she was a friend of And one thing she and

1263
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: I always talk about is should she have remained a

1264
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: friend to the show versus being a housewife, Because it's

1265
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: so much pressure being a housewife that sometimes you have

1266
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: to look at and say, am I better suited as

1267
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: a friend.

1268
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: When I look at Britney.

1269
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: I see an amazing, top tier friend of, like a

1270
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton. I don't want Kathy Hilton to hold a diamond.

1271
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: I want Kathy Hilton to come in and out and

1272
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: that's it. And I look at Britney that way. I

1273
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: don't think she's housewife's material. I think she will be.

1274
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: I think Brittany has the opportunity and the potential to

1275
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: be the Marlow Hampton of Salt Lake an amazing friend

1276
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 2: of that you bring in when necessary, shakes the table,

1277
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: gives you these whack the do moment that I love.

1278
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: And then and then she's on a cast trip and

1279
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: is to go home.

1280
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, and I want to see

1281
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: more of her relationship with Jared Osman. I think that

1282
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 3: whole thing is interesting and that they went official writers.

1283
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 4: Obviously they're about.

1284
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: To cast for the next season, so I am wondering, like,

1285
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: is that real? Is that fake? I would like to

1286
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 3: see the women actually talk about that. I would like

1287
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: them to have that conversation because I think we're all

1288
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 3: asking that question.

1289
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: Will bring it up for Yeah, sure.

1290
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 3: So I mean that's already juicy, so yeah, definitely bring

1291
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: and look, give Britney the chance to prove herself that

1292
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: she could be full time. Who knows. I mean, Angie

1293
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: Kay started as a friend and I loved Angie Ky,

1294
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: but I kind of I don't think I expected them

1295
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 3: to make her a full timer. And then she's just

1296
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: gotten stronger with each season, so you never know. Some

1297
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 3: people can surprise you.

1298
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, this cast surprised me. And once

1299
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: again shout out to the cast and crew of the

1300
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Salt Lake City an amazing, an amazing

1301
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: season a ten out of a ten.

1302
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm impressed.

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Speaker 2: I did not see this coming, but I'm happy the

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Speaker 2: rain Drops forced me to watch it. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I will always listen to you listeners when you tell

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Speaker 2: me to check something out. So listen to me and

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Speaker 2: check out Jock Peterson's podcast, So Jock my Love. Tell

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Speaker 2: them where they can find you and your exclusive Patreon content, Darling.

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Speaker 3: Yes, follow me on Instagram at Unpopular JP. I tweeted

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Speaker 3: and post the link to my Patreon there. I also

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Speaker 3: work at The Daily Mail, so I share some of

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Speaker 3: the stories that I write on there. You know, I

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Speaker 3: post my thoughts and my rants on all the shows,

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Speaker 3: and you guys can message me and yeah, check it out.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, yeah yeah, So, thank you rain Drops and

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Speaker 2: I'll patch you on the next one.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Reality Tea with the King.

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Speaker 2: get all of my visuals, Baby, my expressions, Yes and

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Speaker 2: with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

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Speaker 2: an executive produced by Me Carlos King, Kingdom Rain Entertainment, Baby,