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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling railvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, Vely,

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Speaker 3: that's good. Over, Oliver Hudson, my brother.

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Speaker 2: I've been watching Love Island.

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Speaker 1: I know, but I just want to explain over. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever called you that on the show,

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Speaker 1: and that's over is what I've always called was how

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Speaker 1: I would say Oliver when I was little.

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Speaker 3: So every once in a while I'll just.

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Speaker 2: Be like, that's true. That happens, and I get like,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, but I feel like insecure kind of because

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Speaker 2: it's like too it's like too vulnerable or something that

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Speaker 2: maybe it brings back, like.

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Speaker 3: It brings back like shame.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because probably when you were calling me that,

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Speaker 2: I was rejecting you you were and I don't you're yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Welcome everyone, this is I mean, we're so excited. This

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Speaker 3: is uh, you know, we're a new season at Sibling

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Speaker 3: Revelry that.

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Speaker 2: Bigger, better, stronger, more episodes. You know, we're just we're

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Speaker 2: injecting steroids into this.

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Speaker 1: Podcast well, and also it's exciting because we're you know,

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Speaker 1: we've we really wanted to like get it going and

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Speaker 1: get some momentum and always have our podcast available throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. And we've got some really new fun things

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Speaker 1: that we're doing, Like we have our episodes with siblings

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Speaker 1: or whether they be siblings that are on television or

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Speaker 1: siblings that we hear about in the news, or siblings

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Speaker 1: that people know, celebrity siblings. But we're also doing our

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Speaker 1: revelant episodes that are my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's kind of like you and I have

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Speaker 2: certain people that we revere or that we want to

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Speaker 2: get to know more interested in that interest us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or who could be a great have a great

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Speaker 3: story that.

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Speaker 2: We want to kind of yeah, And each week we

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Speaker 2: sort of trade off a little bit, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like you do your revel in it, then

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Speaker 2: I'll do my revel in it. And as similar and

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Speaker 2: as connected as we are, we both have some very

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Speaker 2: different guests. You could probably guess who Mine are and

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Speaker 2: Kates are without even telling you.

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Speaker 1: We could just tell people what they do and why

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Speaker 1: and people be like, oh, that's definitely an oll of

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Speaker 1: our revel Yeah, no doubt, but we are so excited

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Speaker 1: to be back, and we are also looking forward to

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Speaker 1: your correspondence with that.

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Speaker 3: We're always listening, so check in with us. And you

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Speaker 3: know we we we loved it. We love to hear

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Speaker 3: any ideas too, If you have any good ideas, I'd

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Speaker 3: love to hear it.

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Speaker 2: And then for me, for me personally, I just need

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Speaker 2: to know how I'm doing because I seek validation. So

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Speaker 2: if you're going to write in, you know, write in,

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Speaker 2: you can give us ideas, you know all that, but

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Speaker 2: definitely I need an analysis of how I'm doing exactly.

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Speaker 2: You know, let's just let's just move on to Love Island.

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Speaker 3: Oh tell me, I know it's nothing.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm like upset with myself, you know, because

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Speaker 2: what are loving it so much? Yeah? Because I have

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Speaker 2: my morning and then I do my like work, I

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Speaker 2: can get my coffee and then I'll go out and

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Speaker 2: do something and then I come home and I have

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Speaker 2: like maybe forty minutes between things, So I make some

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Speaker 2: food and I sit down at my TV and I

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Speaker 2: just put on something mindless and I won't give a

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Speaker 2: shit about and I put on Love Island and all

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Speaker 2: now I'm like eight episodes deep, like and it's such

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Speaker 2: mindless horse crap.

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Speaker 3: You know, but you love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, and it's really.

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Speaker 3: No, it's okay. I think it's okay to love these shows.

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Speaker 1: I think, look, sometimes as long as you have perspective

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Speaker 1: them so much they want to be on them. Like

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Speaker 1: then you're like, wow, that's intense. That's like a that's

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Speaker 1: like like what, like, could you imagine actually making the

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Speaker 1: decision to go on a show like Love Island.

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Speaker 2: Well, imagine me at like forty seven, like coming down

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Speaker 2: the stairs Oliver hotsit and with my shirt off. People

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Speaker 2: would like literally start vomiting. You're like, oh Jesus, whoa man?

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Speaker 1: No, But I'm like all four of those kinds of shows, and.

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Speaker 2: I love you know, I've seen everyone.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, look, you know there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Oh god, the ultimatum. I love Love is Blind. I've

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Speaker 2: seen Love Island, Boy Island.

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Speaker 1: I like love is Blind. Love is blind is a

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Speaker 1: really interesting social experiment. To me, It's great, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: you're sort of like, wow, you know, yeah, what would

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, and then my favorite is just when they

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Speaker 3: finally see yeah, oh god, because.

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Speaker 1: The moment where someone's so excited and you can just

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Speaker 1: see in their face like, oh no, I how do

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: And I also think like the pheromone thing is interesting

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Speaker 3: because you're taking the science part out of it. You

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Speaker 3: can't smell the person, and like the pheromone. The pheromone

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Speaker 3: is directly connected to like I guess I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: pheromone that's directly connected to your your a you're mating.

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Speaker 2: Ability right your penis and vagiant.

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Speaker 1: I could have totally made that up, Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It sounds good, but it just proves love is not blind.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you get to know each other personality,

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Speaker 3: And I think it proves that love is love is smelly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, love stinks.

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Speaker 3: Love. Love is a smelly business.

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Speaker 1: And Allie, Allie, I'm really excited to talk about our

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Speaker 1: new guests.

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Speaker 3: Our next guest.

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Speaker 2: I think they're in the guests. I love that we

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Speaker 2: have a waiting room and that's what we call it.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, well, most people who do zooms

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Speaker 2: We should call it. It's more of a green room,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because we do provide snacks

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Speaker 2: and drinks at their perspective homes.

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Speaker 3: That's actually really funny. We should do that. We should

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Speaker 3: actually send them like a little like yeah, usually five

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but this is really fun. This is the

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Speaker 2: first time we've done something like this where our sibling

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Speaker 2: episodes are not actual siblings. No, they're show.

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Speaker 3: Siblings, very famous shows.

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Speaker 2: From an iconic television show that's right, called The Brady Bunch,

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Speaker 2: The Brady So we have Barry Williams, Chris Knight, Mike

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Speaker 2: Luck and Land waiting to talk to them about this experience.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, Allie because.

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Speaker 1: My big question that I want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: I ask is like, how does that affect your own

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Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean, if you're young and

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Speaker 3: you're on a.

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Speaker 1: Show, great question, by the way, Yeah, if you're on

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Speaker 1: a show, thinks if you're on a show. I think actually,

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Speaker 1: I think I think Hannah might have come up with

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Speaker 2: But I but.

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Speaker 3: It was my favorite one. Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like it kind of got me thinking, like, imagine

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Speaker 1: if I was, you know, I don't know, eleven, twelve

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I would feel like it would kind

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's a great question. And you know,

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Speaker 2: these guys have been doing this interview process for one

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Speaker 3: But Barry and Chris have a podcast, yep. They Their

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Speaker 2: Break it talk about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I'm excited. I'm excited to talk to

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Hey, Hannah, bring these bastards in.

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Speaker 3: Open the door. Open the door. Don't say that that's

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Speaker 3: a terrible thing to say.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought that they might, you know.

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Speaker 3: Ready, open the Oliver, Annah and the door to the brain.

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Speaker 2: In same jump, welcome boys. We're here to talk about birds.

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Speaker 5: Now. It all started the birds and the bees and

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Speaker 5: the birds and the bees Christopher and Mike Christopher.

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Speaker 3: Do you like Christopher Chris Chris Chris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So before we get into anything, hold on, we

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Speaker 5: I didn't bring up the birds. Mike brought up the

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Speaker 5: birds because he had has a parrot apparently that had

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Speaker 5: you grew up with a macaw for a short time,

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Speaker 5: right cause are serious business.

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Speaker 3: They really are.

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Speaker 1: Maxine her name was Maxine, and yeah, and she would speak,

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Speaker 1: she would I would talk to her and she'd talk

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Speaker 3: She was she was so great.

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Speaker 5: But she didn't like infants.

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Speaker 2: It was born. And then Maxine went crazy and all

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Speaker 6: I'm that sort of fit saying with the theme of

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Speaker 5: Today, Yeah, I just get along.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you guys, do you do interviews often where the

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Speaker 3: And do you go and do events and things like that.

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Speaker 5: We're individuals and not really a family. So though we

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Speaker 5: will one of us get called and by somebody who

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Speaker 5: our real family. So no, not not together individually. Perhaps

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Speaker 5: so as soon as you add another and another, it

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Speaker 5: And Barry and I are doing our podcast, so we

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Speaker 5: have at times, you know, invited Mike on and we've

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Speaker 5: had that opportunity and you know, on our show to reminisce.

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Speaker 5: But other than that, it's it's rare. Mostly the times

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Speaker 5: that we get together, you're watching it because it's somebody

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Speaker 7: There's a critical mass that we can reach. And you

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Speaker 7: know that happens at six if you get if you

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Speaker 7: get all six, oh boy, but three boys is a good.

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Speaker 2: Start, right right, Well, this is really fun for us

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Speaker 2: because sibling revelry. Obviously we have siblings on. But I

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Speaker 2: Who was cast first? Susan Olsen.

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Speaker 5: To our choice. Yeah, Mike, Mike, do you recall because

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Speaker 6: Oh, Bobby was the last cast member to be chosen.

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Speaker 7: according to Sherwood, I got cast well, not only because

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Speaker 7: But also it's it's in their book that they sat

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 7: You know, I have no idea what you mean by that,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we shout. We shot the pilot in September and

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Speaker 5: It's like any other job, that's the first week, you know.

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Speaker 5: I only played with the toy, right, you played with

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Speaker 6: See they were looking.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: Uh Tony, Tony Kellman said no to to my family.

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Speaker 2: Well, wow, hell.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever ask her why she made that call?

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Speaker 5: Did they already Jackie Coogan law was in place, you had,

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Speaker 3: So you were all in school together.

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Speaker 5: known entity, and then you reconnect and it's almost as

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00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: though you connect at a different level than you left

445
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 5: it the last time, or it seems like it immediately

446
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 5: connects more deeply. I think also you recognize that there's

447
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 5: a trepidation on any project because you're really not going

448
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 5: to see these people probably ever again. On most projects. Now,

449
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 5: when you're casting a series, you recognize you're going to

450
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 5: be working together for a while, and there's a little

451
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 5: bit more investment. I don't know if it's conscious. I

452
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 5: maybes I'm eleven years old here as the series is

453
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 5: in production. I don't think I was thinking like that,

454
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 5: but it feels like that in retrospect that the friendship

455
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 5: that I felt was almost immediate. I know it had

456
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: to take some days to get going, but by the

457
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 5: end of the first week it's, you know, like we're

458
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 5: all friends.

459
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: You say friendship, right, and of course your brothers right,

460
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: And there's obviously the age gap. So Barry, did you

461
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: older fifteen six sixteen? Getting your car, girls, this, this,

462
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: and that. I mean, how did that affect your relationship

463
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: with the younger boys. Did you feel like an older

464
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: brother in any way or was it just you know,

465
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah.

466
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 4: I think I think we all brought our own skills

467
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: set in from our from our nuclear families, as as

468
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: Michael pointed out, we all had brothers, sisters. I had

469
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 4: two older brothers, being the youngest of myself, and so

470
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: I was using the techniques from my older brothers that

471
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: they used on me, which was not very kind to

472
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: either Chris or Michael. And so I would, I would,

473
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 4: I would tease them, I would play jokes on them,

474
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: I would, you know, sometimes put them into compromising positions

475
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: because that's what I loved and that's what I knew,

476
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: and I didn't realize I was actually terrifying, you.

477
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 6: Know, he did.

478
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 5: So so the story and I always heard this ad

479
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 5: nauseum and I repeat it every time because it's sort

480
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 5: of foundational. And you've asked the question. So when we

481
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 5: were doing the pilot, and it was during the production

482
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 5: of the wedding scene where we were on location and

483
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 5: we had a shared wagon win a bagel or something

484
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: that we all changed it, and even we'd carry on

485
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: that sharing of dressing rooms beyond just this pilot and

486
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 5: went on location. We shared the same dressing room for

487
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: the first year when we were on the lot. But okay,

488
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 5: so this first experience on location in a shared environment, Barry,

489
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 5: you know, Barry was I mean, and he wasn't warm

490
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: to us or I didn't feel that way. And he

491
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 5: always he was very mature for his age, Like I

492
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 5: think I assumed he drove to you know, to the location,

493
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: but he had his hand in his and he smoked,

494
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 5: and he smoked. So he's an older kid already, and

495
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 5: he had this thing in his pocket. He kept clicking

496
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 5: it clickick, click, click click. And I'm just a little kid,

497
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 5: that's just you know, trying just to stand on my

498
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 5: mark and noticing. And he's noticing I'm noticing the click.

499
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: And he tells me to guess what it is. Now

500
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 5: I'm thinking that I'm told that I got to guess

501
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: what it is. Okay, we're you know, the age we are,

502
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 5: and they don't trust his sat our lunch and our wardrobe.

503
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: So our wardrobe is off at lunch.

504
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: Let's let's play kN kay, I'll do it, and you guess,

505
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: and you guess what would be clicking in my in

506
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 4: my light.

507
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: I want to do what I want to do?

508
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, go ahead, all right.

509
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: I had no clue, so but but I was industrious.

510
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 5: I saw his pants at once, sitting right there. I'm

511
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: either looking at it or putting it back in his

512
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 5: pants pocket, the door open in its hand, and I'm

513
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: and I'm and I'm caught, you know, like like I

514
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: don't remember what Barry at that moment thought said or

515
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 5: what the look was on his face, because it didn't matter.

516
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: Everything inside of me looked backward at me and just melted.

517
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 5: And I never wanted to see him again after that.

518
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: That is a humiliating moment. And I remember when we

519
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: got picked up so and I believe tell me if

520
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: I'm wrong. I think the wedding stuff was sort of

521
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: at the last stuff we did in the production, so

522
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 5: that was near the end, right, might have been the

523
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 5: last day of production. It was like, oh, I hope

524
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 5: I never have to see him again. I humiliated myself,

525
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 5: I guess. And I don't think Berry did anything to

526
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 5: compound it, right, I think he laughed or something. But

527
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: you know, I but when we got the call and

528
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 5: the show had been picked up from pilot two series.

529
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 5: I remember wishing I knew how to do a backflip.

530
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: This is because I was trying to learn how to

531
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 5: do a backflip, and then you didn't get together, and

532
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: I go, this would be a time I would do

533
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: a backflip. I knew how to do a backflip. And

534
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: then as I'm all excited about that, I'm realized, oh,

535
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 5: I got to see him again. And that was my

536
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: feeling going back into this. But when we started, the

537
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 5: excitement of starting and now you know, i'll all have

538
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 5: this place to report to, I never had that feeling

539
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 5: from him again. I mean, I don't know what it

540
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: was on the pilot that day or those days that

541
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 5: Barry gave off that feeling, but it wasn't there when

542
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 5: we started in the summertime.

543
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: My favorite part of those is Barry was smoking. It's

544
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: like a picture like, you know, all right, kind turned

545
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: the cameras around, Barry's like, I'm gonna go have a smoke.

546
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: He's like fifteen. The image of that is hysterical.

547
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

548
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: It is really fascinating to me.

549
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: You know, when you're young and your like like yet

550
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: to be young and on a hit show. But like

551
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: it's like there were so many of you, so I wonder,

552
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: like when you start, well, I guess my question is

553
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: when when did you realize that you were on a

554
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: hit show or that it was like a hit.

555
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: When we started traveling and doing promotion, ABC was our network,

556
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: and they would send us out to do promotional junkets.

557
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: We had a Christmas album early on, and we would

558
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 4: go out and do personal appearances. And when we started

559
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: doing personal appearances, I think it became pretty apparent because

560
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: we were inside the cocoon of the studio and our

561
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: sound stage for the first year or so, and then

562
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: after that when we were meeting meeting people who were

563
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: watching our show, when we're fans of our show, we

564
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: began to understand the impact of it. And that's where

565
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: I think we really started the bond as well, because

566
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: we all, you know, we all had our roles in

567
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: being responsible for doing things, and I did assume a

568
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: big brother kind of role, and I was protected, particularly

569
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: of Susan, because of what we were subjected to. We're

570
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: moving logistics are you know, enormous. We're flying in planes,

571
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: we're driving in cars, were arriving in buses and so

572
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: so we worked together quite a bit as a unit

573
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 4: and learn how to rely and depend on one another

574
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: probably what saved us.

575
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: I think that that's interesting in the way that you've

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 5: asked the question, when did you know you were on

577
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 5: a hit series? I don't think we ever thought we

578
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: were on a hit series. I never felt we were

579
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 5: on a hit series. We were never picked up. Well,

580
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: we were once picked up for an entire season. We

581
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 5: always had to earn our back end. We were right

582
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: on that kind of top thirty CUSP back in the day,

583
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: you know, the top twenty eight shows got picked up,

584
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 5: and anything beyond that, you know, was you know maybe, and.

585
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: We were.

586
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: Like always wondering if we're going to get picked up again,

587
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 5: or this is going to be the end. But it

588
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: doesn't matter to be on a hit show or not.

589
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: The difference between not being known by anybody and then

590
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: being on a series. It doesn't have to be a

591
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: hit or not. All of a sudden, you're in front

592
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: of millions of people, and maybe as a child you

593
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: just don't recognize what that is going to mean in

594
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 5: your life. You're not prepared for that reflection of you.

595
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 5: I mean, all of a sudden, people know who you

596
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 5: are before you're there, and that's not something that happened

597
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 5: prior to that.

598
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: How did each of you deal with that sort of fame,

599
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, going from the youngest to the oldest. Barry,

600
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: You've had some experience. You were on TV, I guess,

601
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, But was it intoxicating? Was it scary? You

602
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: guys are just kids really at the time. You know,

603
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: I loved it.

604
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: I loved every minute of it. I thought, which is

605
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 4: the coolest thing in the world to be recognized and

606
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: you know, meeting people and having fun. I felt a

607
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: bit self important. I had access to a lot of

608
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: cool things too, Like, you know, my first car was

609
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: a Porsche, and I had the greatest stereo system happening,

610
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: you know for the day, and my JBL speakers and

611
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: my do All turntable and a record collection that went

612
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: on for you know, like three Wallsworth and it was

613
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: you know, so I just.

614
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: Do I hope you still have that record collection.

615
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 5: Well, you Berry, you you knew going on in because

616
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 5: you really were purposeful about your career, even at fourteen,

617
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: this is what you wanted to do. You had an

618
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: awareness that if you were on a series or a

619
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 5: hit series even more so that people would recognize you,

620
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: would empower you in some way. I mean, in other words,

621
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: you were anticipating it, right, Yeah, okay, I don't know.

622
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: I don't know many actors that like you get get

623
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: into the business to go unnoticed.

624
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 5: Well that's my point. So, you know, we're kids not

625
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 5: intending to be in show business and all of a

626
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: sudden there's this flood of attention that you're not at

627
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: all prepared for.

628
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: So was this more of your parents who were sort

629
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: of wanted you to be like acting or in the

630
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: industry or commercial work.

631
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: It's simply an old world way to pay the bills.

632
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, very different. You know, you're hitting on a really

633
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: interesting subject, which is I guess loosely called stage mothers

634
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: stage parents, but particularly stage mothers because they're usually charged

635
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: with the responsibility of being a guardian for their kids

636
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: when they're on the set. As you well know well,

637
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: stage mothers really is a term that is applied to

638
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: basically mothers of children who want to live their lives

639
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: through them. And that's that becomes really challenging me and

640
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: that's not something we had to deal with very much. Certainly,

641
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: my mother was not that and by the time I

642
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: was sixteen, my mother gave chrisper Chris's mother authority to

643
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: be my sort of quote guardian, but she really wasn't

644
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: taking care of him all. I kind of had free

645
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: rateing out.

646
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 5: That there was no guardian Berry.

647
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: I'm wandering off the gun smoke set and climbing up

648
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: in the facades of those of the of the town,

649
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: the western town, and smoke in my cigarettes.

650
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: And then Mike, what about you like?

651
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 7: Barry was very much too cool. He was he was

652
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 7: miles out of my league. So I had to use

653
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 7: Chris as sort of like an interim, you know, to

654
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 7: get to get anywhere near as cool as Berry. I

655
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 7: had to kind of ride Chris's coattails.

656
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 6: I learned to.

657
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 7: I what one thing we did to entertain ourselves off

658
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 7: off camera was rip on Maureen McCormick. So so uh

659
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 7: so I learned, or at least they did. I was

660
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 7: mostly a spectator, but yeah, we uh you know, they

661
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 7: they would tease Maureene relentlessly and I found that hilarious.

662
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: But uh, and that's why we did it.

663
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah. The my my family, my family's in my.

664
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 7: Family was was uh singer entertainers from from when I

665
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 7: was a young child, and uh, the the but what

666
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 7: we would do is we'd go as a family to

667
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 7: who knows what, you know, rotary clubs or or something

668
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 7: and sit and sing. And you know, my mom went

669
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 7: to autoharp and me and my sister on stools and

670
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 7: my little brother like literally baby in arms, and we

671
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 7: would sing, we do a little show. So so I

672
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 7: had I had entertainment, you know, I had experience being

673
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 7: in front of people, uh, from when I was just

674
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 7: a toddler. But my parents, Uh, my story about getting

675
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: into the TV business is a.

676
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 6: Dad's family photo on the desk thing.

677
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

678
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 7: Someone, you know, everyone in La works in the movie business, right,

679
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 7: they might have a they might have a real job

680
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 7: to make money, but everybody's in the business.

681
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 6: So so anyway, my.

682
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: Dad, you're perpetuating a myth.

683
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 6: Yeah right, no, we.

684
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, But see, I I can say in retrospect, that's

685
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 7: what you might that my you know, Barry said he

686
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 7: loved every minute of it. I certainly enjoyed it and

687
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 7: and and love the fame and the recognition. But given

688
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: the opportunity, I can say now that my flight to

689
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 7: Utah when I was seventeen was just that it was

690
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 7: an escape to get that far away from LA from

691
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: and from agents and from casting directors and freeways.

692
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not for everybody.

693
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes it takes like I think there's a

694
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: lot of younger actors that have been and had experiences

695
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: that just walk away from it and go, that's not

696
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: going to be my life.

697
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: And being and being the youngest one. You know, I

698
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: was still a kid when when we were done. I

699
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 7: you know, it wasn't something my childhood wasn't something I

700
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 7: looked back on. I lived my childhood with with money

701
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 7: and cars in my twenties, things you wouldn't normally have

702
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 7: when you were ten years old.

703
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 6: And that can be dangerous.

704
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 7: I tell I tell people that if every man, woman,

705
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 7: and child had had a high deff camera in their

706
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 7: pocket when I was seventeen, my life would have been ruined,

707
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 7: you know, a wild Yeah. I yes, But these guys,

708
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 7: he listen, listen, here's here's one. These guys have over

709
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 7: the years gotten gotten into calling me the normal one.

710
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 6: I'm you know, out of the six of assigned.

711
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: To normal one.

712
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 6: Oh they have they have no.

713
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I never called you the normal one. Yeah,

714
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: you knew better well one second case, because I want

715
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: to mention something that we've known each other for fifty

716
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 5: six years, Barry, did you know that he was family

717
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 5: was like the Coutles. We're learning something new here. I

718
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: never knew that. I never knew that about.

719
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: My dive into it real quick. When you say wild,

720
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: like I was wild, I mean I did crazy ship.

721
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: But what are we talking about? I mean we're talking

722
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: about drugs, fast cars. Girls.

723
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: You wouldn't stuff you wouldn't I got.

724
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 7: I want to tell your mama or your grandma about

725
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 7: uh yeah yeah, drugs and alcohol and uh and just

726
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: general general of you know, all around breaking of the law.

727
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Oh now we're opening this.

728
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: A lot of psychedelics, A lot of psychedelics.

729
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: I married one one.

730
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 7: I am actually I've been playing the rock star lately.

731
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 7: I'm in a I'm in a Grateful Dead cover band.

732
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

733
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 7: In fact, in fact, Barry, you guys should see a long.

734
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: Oh there you go.

735
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: You're so happy. Wait where do you live?

736
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 7: I live in Salt Lake City. It's been snow and

737
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 7: so so all you should come. Come go skin you too.

738
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm gonna be I'm going to be in

739
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: Snowbird on MLK day. I'll be in Snowbird ski Okay,

740
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: I'll see you then that's where I good.

741
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: You see my snowbird hat right here?

742
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I for my first time, uh last year,

743
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: and we got inter lodged. It was a big snow

744
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: was it was The snow was so good as all

745
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: my life. It was some of the greatest skiing that

746
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: I've ever done.

747
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: After lodging is you're not You're not allowed to leave

748
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: the building. There's so much snow and there's so avalanche danger.

749
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Crazy.

750
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: I called Oliver on FaceTime and I was like, where

751
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: are you because it was so different, Like we grew

752
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: up in Colorado, which you know, so I knew he

753
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: wasn't there. It couldn't have been a more different kind

754
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: of terrain. But it looked amazing.

755
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: It's crowd Oh, I love it.

756
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's terrain wise, it's beautiful here. And if I

757
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: need to go to la hey, Barry, you do you

758
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 7: want to tell everybody why I was growing my hair long?

759
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: That uh not stright?

760
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 5: I no, No, you can't mutter that yet.

761
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: Why Oh he's oh you're growing mushrooms in your hair?

762
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 7: No, No, it's I think. I think, I think the

763
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 7: we might have one one good Brady show left in US.

764
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 7: Maybe strikes over, Hello, CBS. We might it just might,

765
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 7: We just might have one one more left in US.

766
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 6: Well, there's been like sixteen reunion shows.

767
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 7: It's not like it's not like saying seventeen is going

768
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 7: to be like big, big news.

769
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: When you guys started to get on the routine of

770
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: doing all your promotion together and being together all the time,

771
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: how did it affect your other relationships with your siblings.

772
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good that's the million dollar question. Yeah,

773
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: I don't think. Well I didn't. I didn't really understand

774
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: this because I was so busy trying to hang They

775
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: used to call me tag along my brothers, and because

776
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 4: I just I wanted to do everything they did and

777
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 4: just and be there, be in the room. You know,

778
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 4: whatever they were doing was cooler than what was going

779
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: on in my life. Even as the show, well as

780
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 4: the show progressed, then that not so much anymore, because well, frankly,

781
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: what I was doing was way cooler. But there's this

782
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: inordinate amount of attention that comes our way. There is

783
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: so much there's publicity and their team magazines. At this

784
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: time you know, going on television, people know you and

785
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: the siblings can get lost easily in that mix. And

786
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that. I just I felt them distancing

787
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 4: themselves from me. But they were older, you know, they're

788
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: like seventeen and twenty, I mean eighteen and twenty, so

789
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: they were distancing. But as adults, I came to understand

790
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: that that had a very very serious impact on their

791
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: development and on their relationship with our parents. And they're

792
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: I would say, perhaps dislike.

793
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: For me, just envy envy. Wow. And has that been reconciled,

794
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, or had it been reconciled over the years. No, wow,

795
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: that's so interesting.

796
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: Right then, it isn't.

797
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that we you know, we've interviewed

798
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrities with siblings that have been various.

799
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Is also a very different generation.

800
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: A lot of the younger, you know, siblings or you know,

801
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: hawk things out differently, I guess.

802
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: But there's also a lot of times where you know,

803
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: we ask certain people to come on and they just

804
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: will not do it because they their relationship with their

805
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: sibling is too trying, you know, and so that's you know,

806
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: that's really understandable.

807
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: Well, No, I totally. But when you have love between

808
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: a family, yes, there's jealousy, there's envy. You know, I

809
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: subject myself to it, and I say myself because I'm

810
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: the one who creates it. Granted I have a great career.

811
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: But you've got Kate, You've got Mom, You've got Kurt,

812
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: now you've got Wyat. I mean, they're all movie stars

813
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: for the most part. And I'm not crying myself a river,

814
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: but there is envy. There is like, oh I wish

815
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: I could do that, or I want to be that

816
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: or whatever it is. But at the end of the day,

817
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: it's all love. Because we're siblings, you know what I mean,

818
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: We're a family. So I just wonder, especially with multiple siblings,

819
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: how that doesn't get sort of I guess a dressed

820
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: or figured out because it seems pretty surface or petty.

821
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: Well I can't you might be petty. I mean in

822
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 5: my case, I don't have Barry's experience. We all have

823
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: our individual experiences. But when you take into account what's

824
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: really going down with a family, I'm sure Mike and

825
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: Barry get asked the same question, you know, by their friends.

826
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 5: They have a cute daughter or a cute son, he

827
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: should do commercials. He should do modeling, you know, and

828
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: my what do I think? I think never? You know,

829
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 5: when they're eighteen, they can decide to be in the industry.

830
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: There's no there's no success they can have now that'll

831
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 5: be consequential to the success that they'll have as an adult.

832
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, it might even create, you know, barriers

833
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 5: to becoming a success as an adult because reality is

834
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 5: is that there's multiple kids in a family. I mean,

835
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: I'm just a year and a half younger than my

836
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 5: older brother. I've got a sister three years younger and

837
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 5: a brother seven years younger, and my mom ain't with

838
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: him for half the year. What what do they get?

839
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 7: That's my story exactly. The Brady Bunch took my brother

840
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 7: and sister's mother away from them. Wow, she had a

841
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 7: full time job, which was to be with me on

842
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 7: the set, and your right, it certainly had an effect

843
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 7: on the you know, uh, on the family. The thing is,

844
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 7: though you don't, you don't like I was going. I

845
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 7: knew what what was required to me know your lines

846
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 7: hit your mark, you know, uh it was it was.

847
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 7: It was impressed upon me and all of us very

848
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 7: clearly that sure have fun be kids we want that

849
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 7: we you know, we want that to come through in

850
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: the in the characters on the show.

851
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 6: But this is a job well you expect.

852
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 7: And you're expected to do it, and you know, uh

853
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 7: don't you know, there's no there's no margin for for

854
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 7: screwing this up. And uh so that so that was

855
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 7: my focus, you know, my my little brother's focus was

856
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 7: Mom's gone, you know, uh, you know, so so yeah,

857
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 7: but it's it's hard to know that you're living in

858
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 7: an extraordinary experience, especially as a child, while you're in

859
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 7: the middle.

860
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: Of doing it.

861
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 5: Well, you know, but you know that your life is

862
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: a little bit different. We were the only six kids.

863
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 7: In a in a in a big in a big

864
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 7: studio filled with grown ups.

865
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: All day long.

866
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: Here's another way to look at it. My dad was

867
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: a provider, and he has certain expectations of his wife

868
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: and my brothers and my mother. One of them. Most

869
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: have dinner on the table at six o'clock, so, uh,

870
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: with the shop, with the grocery shopping done. And sometimes

871
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: we would work past six o'clock and then we're in

872
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: Hollywood and have a fifty minute drive home. So everyone's

873
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: sitting around going wha, wha, wha, whall, Well, where's dinner? Oh,

874
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: moms with Barry, Moms with Barry.

875
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh right, And a.

876
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 5: Lot of this hasn't been discussed upfront or negotiated beforehand.

877
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: You know, it's not like, Okay, this is what's going

878
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: to happen, and this so dinner's going to be late.

879
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 5: It We're gonna, you know, adapt to it later, like.

880
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, how do all you feel about that? You know,

881
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 6: none of that and there's so nice how you feel

882
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 6: about it?

883
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to happen, right.

884
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so interesting. I never looked at that that way.

885
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: You think the girls had similar experiences.

886
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 5: I don't think Susan did, because Susan was the youngest

887
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: by a long shot. Well now she had an older sister,

888
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 5: but being the youngest meant that. I know, my older

889
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 5: brother probably had less of a problem with my mom

890
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 5: not being around at fourteenth then my four year old brother,

891
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: you know, my three year old brother who is being

892
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 5: raised by my you know, seven year old sister because

893
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: my dad you didn't have those skills, you know, nor focus,

894
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 5: so he was I don't know how they survived.

895
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: I remember, Kurt, you know, our parents never worked at

896
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: the same time. They had the privilege to be able

897
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: to choose and schedule when they worked. And when we

898
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: got a little bit older, I was about sixteen, almost seventeen,

899
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: and they were like, listen, you know, we can't fix

900
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: this one.

901
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: You're just we're not going to beat I was going

902
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: to be working nights. You're on your own.

903
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: And I was.

904
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: Too sad. Yeah, yeah, Like a cut to a full montage,

905
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: which is a montage of Kate getting ready with like

906
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: playing with the Boys theme song going on in the background.

907
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 6: My god, that's hilarious.

908
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to say one thing, hold on about this

909
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: for people who you know, I think I think there's

910
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: sometimes this sort of misconception that when people aren't in

911
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: the industry or see it from the outside in, that

912
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: it's not an incredibly time consuming job, when in fact,

913
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: it's like the most unglamorous and time consuming job when

914
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: you're on the job. Like, when you're on the job,

915
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: you're working. I mean, obviously you guys were on set,

916
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: but in other circumstances, you're working in insane places at

917
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: insane hours, sometimes at night, somebody's working through the night,

918
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: and when you have a family, it really messes with

919
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: a traditional family dynamic. It just it's one of the

920
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: hardest jobs to have to raise a family in. So

921
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: it's such an interesting perspective to hear it. Here you

922
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: guys are portraying like this this melded family, and then

923
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: on the on the on the riot flip side of it,

924
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: it was probably actually really affecting so many families.

925
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 5: You know, obvious the it's obvious that it does, and

926
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 5: the obvious becomes a surprise when it should have been

927
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 5: obvious to families that you know, if you're living in

928
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 5: Ohio and you want one of your children to be

929
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: in the industry and you're out here for pilot season,

930
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 5: it's like and you got other kids, It's like, who's

931
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 5: who's not thinking of what's going on? I mean, like

932
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: how does that work? I mean, so you're dreaming of

933
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 5: this child to become a huge success. Now what if

934
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 5: they are? Now you're never all you know so and

935
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 5: then you know so, what's the other half is that

936
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 5: they're not a success. Why do you want to drive

937
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: them into that? I just don't get it. I mean

938
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 5: I I you know, there's times for you to go

939
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 5: plow the field.

940
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: How many years were you on the on the air

941
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: five five seasons.

942
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: Five seasons, which is crazy because that's not a lot.

943
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because the show has always been more successful

944
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 5: in the rearview mirror than it ever was. That's why

945
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 5: when you said hit and I don't be we were

946
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: in the hit that. We now look at the show

947
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 5: as because it's done something since it was in, you know,

948
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 5: on Friday nights on prime Time that very few shows

949
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 5: have ever done. Through the years being watched by as

950
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 5: many eyeballs as it has been around the world repetitively,

951
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 5: it's reached a different level of a strata because of it.

952
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: Compounding its success a year over year.

953
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 4: Also every few years had a little Brady reminders. We've

954
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: always been doing reunions, we've been doing specials, we've been

955
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: doing TV movies, and the movies came out. We did

956
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 4: the Variety Show almost immediately after the Brady Bunch went off.

957
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: We had a very Brady Christmas. We had the Brady

958
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 4: Brides of.

959
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 8: Very Brady Christmas, which braves me to this too, Barry,

960
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 8: what with all of the singing and the singing numbers, Like,

961
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 8: what was your guys relationship to that was something you

962
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 8: were excited by or was this like a.

963
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 4: Ship Okay, well I'll start because you know, I tell

964
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 4: you that I've always loved it and I wanted more

965
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: and music was part of it. So I was at

966
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: a cheerleader for getting the songs on the Brady Bunch,

967
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: getting choreography, get dressed up and hold the microphones, going

968
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: on concert, doing albums. I was, I mean, it was

969
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: this to me was just like too good, you know,

970
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: TV and a rock star too. To find out I

971
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 4: should have checked with everybody else A little bit funny.

972
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 7: I've always I've always been very adept at carrying out

973
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 7: other people's plans. Tell me, I'm goal, I'm I'm results oriented.

974
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 6: Tell me what you know? What's the goal? Okay, what's

975
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 6: my part in that? Okay, let's do it. Boom boom boom.

976
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: Well, how but but how convenient you're a council sorts right.

977
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 5: I trained in it.

978
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 7: I could see I could hold my part and three

979
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 7: part harmony vocal harmony when I was three years old.

980
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 6: According to do you.

981
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 5: Have any do you haven't? Do you have any phobias?

982
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 6: Pitch you know, but it's pretty close.

983
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Mike, do you have any phobias? You have

984
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: any phobias? Whatsoever? That you're aware of phobias.

985
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 6: I know where he's going with this. You like heights?

986
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: No, I don't have any real like tight holes, like

987
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 7: like get really uptight about spa.

988
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 6: But but no, no phobias.

989
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 2: No, what do you get up about.

990
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: He's not he's not fighting what I'm challenging you on.

991
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 5: Figure out what your phobia is and be asked that

992
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 5: that is the thing you have to accomplish. Right, oh right,

993
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 5: goals oriented? Yeah right, but if it happens to be

994
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 5: you're not. You don't don't like heights, and the goal

995
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: is to build a building on an I beam, you know,

996
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: a quarter mile in the air.

997
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: No be torture, Yeah, yeah, you go on when they're

998
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: living in torture or you were living in torture.

999
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask a totally random question because it's

1000
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: something I I have all my questions that I want

1001
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: to get through before we have to end this and

1002
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: but and say goodbye. But but there's so many things

1003
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: that I want to ask and we like haven't even

1004
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: touched them. One of which is does anyone know who

1005
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: came up with the blue boxes?

1006
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: Was that like a just like a like a marketing department?

1007
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 5: Marketing was or we had to tell a story. No,

1008
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 5: I don't think it was a Maria and there was

1009
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 5: probably someone in it.

1010
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: Was it the writer?

1011
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 7: You know, the story is in the song, the the

1012
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 7: it explains everything in the song, and it had to

1013
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 7: be there had to be a way to present the

1014
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 7: visuals with the song.

1015
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 5: And your answer is, we don't know, you don't know.

1016
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: It's so interesting to take something that was so iconic.

1017
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: There's so many iconic moments on The Brady Bunch, but

1018
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: that was such a brilliant, you know, iconic, uh, introduction

1019
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: to all of these characters.

1020
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's kind of uh what do they

1021
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 5: call it? Parallel creation or parallel invention? You know, two

1022
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: different evolutions arriving at the same the same place. Zoom

1023
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 5: discovered the same thing that Sherwood and whoever was creating

1024
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 5: this front end of the Brady Bunch did that When

1025
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: you have a cast of nine, how do you present them?

1026
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: And Zoom boxes they probably Yeah, someone should be getting

1027
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: a cut.

1028
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: Did you guys? Did you guys get along with the girls?

1029
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: Was it a was it a family that way?

1030
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 6: Or I was in I was in very close with

1031
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 6: Susan Olsen. We both have a real.

1032
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 7: Kind of off off kilter sense of humor, and for years,

1033
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 7: for years we had sort of a virtual endeavor which

1034
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 7: was to make the other one laugh, to make the

1035
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 7: other one laugh.

1036
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 5: One of the benefits, maybe in the brilliance of Tony

1037
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 5: Kellman choosing the Brady Bunch over Courtship. Vetti's father of

1038
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 5: this show for us was that there were other kids there,

1039
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 5: and it was an environment that Surewood wanted to make

1040
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 5: certain was was healthy for these kids because he wanted

1041
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 5: us to remain kids, well, the five of us, not Barry.

1042
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 5: So it was I mean, of all environments to work in,

1043
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 5: it wasn't It wasn't a corrupted one. I mean, I

1044
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 5: look back on it. I'm my salvation was supplied by

1045
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 5: having the idea of what a nuclear family is through

1046
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: the show, because it wasn't at home.

1047
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: Did anyone Did anyone get too big for their breches?

1048
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 4: No?

1049
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 5: I don't think we could have with with the amount

1050
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 5: of parents we had around.

1051
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 4: Us, and of wrecked that family dynamic when it started

1052
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 4: dating Marine however.

1053
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, how did that work?

1054
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: It really didn't work.

1055
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 5: Moreen's mom couldn't drive and so but you had to

1056
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 5: be with her. They didn't live too far. So for

1057
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 5: all five years we drove in. We drove Moreen in

1058
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 5: on occasion maybe when I had a hold, which was

1059
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 5: very rare, certainly not on any days that were school.

1060
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 5: If Susan was working they didn't live too far, they'd

1061
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 5: drive in or Moreen and her mom would drive in

1062
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 5: with Susan, but mostly with me and I had those

1063
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 5: two hours because then it was about an hour we

1064
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 5: lived in the West Valley to get to the studio

1065
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 5: and back to listen to Maureen. And I had already

1066
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: probably you know, heard from Barry that day about Maureen.

1067
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 5: So I was this intermediary between their blood dance, their attraction,

1068
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 5: they're repelling. It was just the oddest did Barry were you?

1069
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 5: Just like Barry was just like right, you know, I mean,

1070
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 5: how did that flourish.

1071
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 4: Well start going out and you get a little closer

1072
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: during the photo shoots and suddenly there's an arm around

1073
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: somebody just as big brands, and then there is the

1074
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 4: come on over to my house and we'll swim naked.

1075
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 4: Let it take a natural course.

1076
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: I So, so do you guys have like a is

1077
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 3: there like a Brady Bunch group chat?

1078
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: Is there?

1079
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: Like are you guys on one chat, No we have.

1080
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: We have a podcast Chris was talking about called The

1081
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 4: Real Brady Bros. And basically episodic recap. So we take

1082
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 4: an episode each week and we both watch it, we

1083
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: take notes, we exchange notes, and then we get together

1084
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: in a very similar fashion to this and talk about

1085
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: the show and with our perspectives on it now and

1086
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: thought about it. But the most interesting part about it,

1087
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 4: aside from deepening our own relationship because of that consistency

1088
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: and we're really pulling from our past, is we remember

1089
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 4: things like we're in two completely different situations, the age difference,

1090
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: him being three years younger than I, and I'll go

1091
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: on about, well this happened, and this happening, well this,

1092
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: and and you'll get come up with a different story sometimes.

1093
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 4: And it's fascinating to how we each interpreted our experiences

1094
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: and how you know, with the with the hindsight, you

1095
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: know that they can kind of, you know, formulate differences,

1096
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: big differences of opinions. It's fascinating and fun.

1097
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: That's really that you know that they Obviously, perception is

1098
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: a very interesting topic because most people have very different perceptions.

1099
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: Then when you get in a family dynamic Alli and

1100
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time, like I'll have

1101
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: a completely different memory of something amazing and relationship than

1102
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: he does in the exact same circumstance.

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01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: I would I'd like to use as an illustration. Something

1104
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: came up in this podcast from Michael. He said that,

1105
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 4: you know, I was I was too cool for him,

1106
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: and you know I was. I was busy being you know,

1107
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 4: kind of full of myself. I don't have that impression. Yes,

1108
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: I tried to carry myself as being cool, but I

1109
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 4: wanted to be an adult. So I was just gravitating away.

1110
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 4: I was hanging out with the people that were hanging

1111
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: the lights or running the camera. I was trying to

1112
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 4: talk to the director. I hung with Robert Reid a

1113
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 4: lot because he was an actor, and Florence because she

1114
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: had the musical side, and that's just where my attention went.

1115
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: So I really didn't have time for like an eight

1116
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: year old or a nine year old, And so I

1117
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: can see how that would affect him now, but at

1118
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: the time I didn't think anything of it, and I

1119
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 4: certainly wasn't, you know, it just it just wasn't in

1120
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 4: my radar.

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 7: I would like to point out how our family dynamic

1122
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 7: which developed over the years has continued over the decades.

1123
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 7: When upon being in vice onto their podcast, I assumed

1124
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 7: that my role was to come on and goof around

1125
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 7: and just you know, just goof off, because that's that's

1126
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 7: kind of been like my place. And uh so I

1127
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 7: listened to their podcast, and I thought to myself, Man,

1128
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 7: these guys are taped.

1129
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 6: These guys are serious. They're taking this very seriously. This

1130
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 6: is a real nuts and bolts.

1131
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 7: Analysis of this episode with all the historical perspective, and

1132
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 7: so upon upon learning that I I, upon upon realizing

1133
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 7: that that that these guys were taking this very seriously,

1134
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 7: I figured my role was to come in and goof

1135
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 7: around even more.

1136
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm, right, And that's and that's what I did.

1137
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 6: These guys need a little levity in their in their life.

1138
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: Did What was it like after the show ended?

1139
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 5: You know?

1140
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: I mean, was it a bittersweet? Was it sad? What

1141
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: was the experience from coming off a show that became

1142
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: so iconic and probably was in the moment.

1143
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 4: A quick story on this that happened for five years.

1144
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: We're driving onto the lot. We have our own parking spots,

1145
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: we got our own dressing rooms, we have home, which

1146
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: was our sound stage five at Paramount and were I

1147
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: got noticed that we were canceled on a Friday. On Monday,

1148
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 4: I drove to the lot to pick up the things

1149
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 4: out of my dressing room and I was stopped by

1150
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: the same guard Fritz that I saw every morning. Good morning, Fritz,

1151
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: Say good morning Fritz. And he said, Hey, Gary, what

1152
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 4: are you doing. I said, I'm going in to clear

1153
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 4: out my dressing room. He says, oh, do you have

1154
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: a drive on pass?

1155
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: God?

1156
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 4: No, He said, okay, we'll pull over there and i'll

1157
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 4: call this if I can, you know, get your one,

1158
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: which he did. Then he directed me to some other

1159
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 4: place on the lot that was too far to carry things.

1160
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 4: So I went to my parking space. And I got

1161
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: to my parking space and between Friday and Monday morning,

1162
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: at nine o'clock it had been painted over and it

1163
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 4: had a new name on it exactly. Oh, oh, so

1164
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 4: we've been canceled, canceled, and I felt canceled, and that

1165
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: was that was my reaction to it.

1166
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1167
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: Two, I mean, there's two different there's two different reality.

1168
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: Mean, it's certainly.

1169
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 5: As the show was going on, it was losing its

1170
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 5: its ability to connect you know, in a real organic

1171
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 5: or on it's kind of way. I mean, it mostly

1172
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 5: fit for a twelve thirteen year old kind of psyche,

1173
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: and as you're now pushing seventeen, it it was harder

1174
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 5: to well connect with what was on the page and

1175
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 5: you could imagine that, Okay, this isn't going to change,

1176
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 5: this is probably it's probably time to leave. We all

1177
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 5: had five year contracts, so there was some expectation on

1178
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 5: my part that it probably would get canceled. So when

1179
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 5: it was maybe that was just me anticipating ply and

1180
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 5: was helped me prepare for that. But there was you know,

1181
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 5: so I and I was happy because I was in

1182
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 5: the middle school and wanted to continue my my school

1183
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 5: and the one thing we couldn't get in those three

1184
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 5: hours a day is any kind of lab classes. And

1185
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 5: I'm big with science and there was no labs for

1186
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: me until I could get back to my high school.

1187
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 6: So I got that in.

1188
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 5: I mean, it was good timing, it was perfect time.

1189
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 5: It last minute timing for me. But then what it

1190
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 5: took me a couple of years after that, in trying

1191
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 5: to find my new place in the world to realize

1192
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 5: what I had as a home that wasn't there anymore interesting?

1193
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 5: Wasn't immediate Chris.

1194
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: Chris pointed out earlier that we didn't. Our show really

1195
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 7: didn't become like that American iconic touchstone, you know that

1196
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 7: it that it did for until we were in syndication

1197
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 7: for years, and so, so as soon as the show's canceled,

1198
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 7: we start looking for new new work. I got the

1199
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 7: job on The Towering Inferno within a couple of weeks,

1200
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 7: and we filmed The Towering Inferno that that entire summer.

1201
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 7: That would have been season six of The Brady Bunch.

1202
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 7: So I had I had a job at twentieth Century

1203
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 7: Fox doing something insanely completely different. That was Irwin Allen

1204
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 7: was directed that movie.

1205
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 6: It was awesome.

1206
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 7: Paul Newman carried me out. I got to tell you, guys,

1207
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 7: Kurt Kurt Russell used to come to my house in

1208
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 7: San Pedro. He was no My little brother was in

1209
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 7: a series with him. I think I think my brother

1210
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 7: played his nephew in The New Land. You remember a

1211
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 7: series called The New Land.

1212
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: He's done so many of those.

1213
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, he'd come in.

1214
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 7: His El Camino and do push ups in the living

1215
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 7: room with my brother sitting on his back and I remember,

1216
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 7: I remember. My mother was was quick to point out

1217
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 7: that that his the entire like passenger compartment of his

1218
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 7: blue El Camino was filled with empty beer cans.

1219
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 3: I didn't even know Camino.

1220
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: I did, I for sure did, like he's always talked about.

1221
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's amazing.

1222
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 6: So thanks for letting me, Thanks for letting that's our

1223
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 6: one degree of separating. I love that.

1224
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: Well, listen, we're not going to keep you longer.

1225
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: We love to do our rapid fire and I have

1226
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: to start with a couple of them because I have

1227
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very I'm going to start with you

1228
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: because I know you did Dancing with the Stars, and.

1229
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 3: What was your favorite dance?

1230
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: The tango. It's a great dance and it's very moody,

1231
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 4: and it's very dramatic. If you don't know people that

1232
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: don't understand the roles of the dance, the male is

1233
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: typically the matador Victoria d'Or, and the woman plays sometimes

1234
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 4: the cape, sometimes the bull, and then sometimes the object

1235
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 4: of desire. It was fabulous.

1236
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 3: Are you still dancing?

1237
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah. In fact, I have booked a cruise

1238
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 4: for my birthday next year. It would be my seventieth birthday.

1239
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 4: That I know in the Greek Isles, starts in Athens

1240
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 4: and goes to over to Spain, and it has a

1241
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 4: dance floor on it. So my wife and I routines

1242
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 4: and go out there and tear it up.

1243
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 3: I love it.

1244
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Next, what I want from each of you? You

1245
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: had some amazing guest stars on the Brady Bench. Who

1246
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: was the guest star that you were most excited about?

1247
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 4: Jama Speaking Jones, Vincent Price.

1248
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy how many people were on this show. Yeah,

1249
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: and all three of those are.

1250
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: So Wow, Joe name it. That's pretty ra pretty cool.

1251
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 5: Paul was cool too.

1252
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: Wow.

1253
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 5: Paul Winchill helped invent the artificial heart, cried out loud.

1254
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 5: He's like an inventor as well.

1255
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: If you could swap lives with one of your siblings

1256
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: on the Brady Bench, what would it be if you

1257
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,919
Speaker 1: had to, not if you wanted to. If you're including

1258
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 1: including all siblings, all siblings, girls, all of us all.

1259
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: If you were like.

1260
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 4: Ny for sure, because she always gets more.

1261
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 5: Just a siblings, not other cast members.

1262
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,919
Speaker 3: No, just to say, well, no, just the siblings.

1263
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 5: I'll do, Maureen, just so I can figure it out.

1264
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 6: Man, you got me on that one, Kate, I don't know.

1265
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 6: I wouldn't trade. That's my answer.

1266
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 5: We got a trade, Okay, I love it.

1267
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 7: Then it's then it's uh, it's three for three Maureen McCormick.

1268
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 7: I'm not even gonna say why, but only but only,

1269
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 7: like you know, half a day.

1270
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be enough to figure it out.

1271
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: If you could do one really amazing thing with the

1272
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: cast again, anything, what would it be.

1273
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 5: Are we talking a project or just go go go

1274
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 5: go fishing?

1275
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1276
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 4: Anything updated a series that is as current sensibilities.

1277
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 7: I like it.

1278
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 5: Doing the HG TV project was was pretty remarkable. I

1279
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: mean because you know, we got to all participate and

1280
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 5: take something that was never real and make it real.

1281
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 5: And the house itself turns out to be one of

1282
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 5: the characters that we all recall remember, and I mean

1283
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 5: it's timeless for a house that was from the late sixties,

1284
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, so I know we might have

1285
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: already done the project that day.

1286
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1287
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 6: I was going to say, are you saying we've already

1288
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 6: done it?

1289
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 4: Right?

1290
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1291
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 6: I uh, I think.

1292
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 2: Well.

1293
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 7: The number one question that I've been asked by just

1294
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 7: random people over the years is do you still keep

1295
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 7: in touch with with the other, the other people. You know,

1296
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 7: it's a perfectly valid question. People are interested. The answer

1297
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 7: is yes, and and I would just say, i'd you know,

1298
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 7: like that to uh continue.

1299
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: Day. Yeah, I'll think about it.

1300
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: Your bands. I want to hear your death.

1301
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 7: We're the pranksters. You can live stream pranksters.

1302
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: Okay, great, we actually don't suck.

1303
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 2: We're not.

1304
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 6: We're not, We're not.

1305
01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: Think you did.

1306
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. This has been really really fun.

1307
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: So much fun. I'm I'm I'm grateful that you came

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Speaker 3: on and to meet you is wonderful. So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Oliver, thank you.

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Speaker 6: We'll see you again sometime bright now, we'll see you boys,