WEBVTT - Jets 7-Round Mock Draft with Leger Douzable (4/23)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Official Jets podcast, Eric Allen joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Leja Duza Bawl.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft Week is here. Dudes, it's upon us.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you believe it? Ea? I mean I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the season ended maybe a month ago, right, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Super Bowl in Vegas was right like

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<v Speaker 3>literally yesterday, and now here we are, look at us

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<v Speaker 3>already ready for the new era of players to come

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<v Speaker 3>into the brotherhood of the NFL. Man Tom Flies, Tom Flies.

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<v Speaker 2>Hea, time certainly does fly.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is our last pre draft podcast with dues,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're putting you on the clock for the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets. The Jets have seven overall selections dues, starting.

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<v Speaker 2>With number ten overall.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to those picks, how did you go

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<v Speaker 1>about targeting players for the Jets needs this spring?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I went back and forth, and I actually

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<v Speaker 3>do this exercise where I think and I run down

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<v Speaker 3>like what teams or who they could potentially pick before

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets actually picked. So it was like a real exercise.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you look at this draft, it's based on

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<v Speaker 3>you know, going through each round seeing what player may

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<v Speaker 3>or may not be there most more specimply, in first round, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the first nine picks, and did you

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<v Speaker 3>know some evaluation of what teams could potentially trade up

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<v Speaker 3>for the quarterbacks at the top of the draft, what

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<v Speaker 3>teams need, have certain needs at certain positions. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I was able to make my pick at number

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<v Speaker 3>ten and then even going down to the third round, right,

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<v Speaker 3>just going through the draft seeing what player could possibly

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<v Speaker 3>be there. So that's that's how, like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I would want to say it was tedious

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<v Speaker 3>because I love going through this exercise because this is probably,

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<v Speaker 3>ea what my tenth mock draft, right, so it gets

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<v Speaker 3>fun every time when you just, you know, decipher who

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<v Speaker 3>could potentially be there, what team has a need, and

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<v Speaker 3>how they tried to fill it as to posed as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to what the Jets are going to need at

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<v Speaker 3>that certain pick.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we control the cards, so we could do

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<v Speaker 1>this different than what's going to happen on draft weekend. Correct, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>goal in order do you want to lead up to

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<v Speaker 1>number ten? Should we start backwards, should we start all

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<v Speaker 1>the way from mister irrelevant? Or you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>this traditional style?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do a traditional style.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, here we go number ten overall? Who did

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<v Speaker 1>he consider here before you put in the card.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, eh, I don't believe it's a secret anymore. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>my affinity from Roma Dune day. Yeah, but in this

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<v Speaker 3>mock he was already gone. So unfortunately he was not

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<v Speaker 3>there at the number ten pick for the Jets. So

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<v Speaker 3>I went back and back and forth to see best

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<v Speaker 3>player available, best fit, right, and that's how I came

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<v Speaker 3>up with who I picked at the number ten spot.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So who was on the board. Who were

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<v Speaker 1>some names that Jets fans like? Who was on the board? Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>before you picked this a certain peck twelve alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, brock Bauers was still on the board. JC Latham

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<v Speaker 3>was still on the board, and Talie Uagga was still

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<v Speaker 3>on the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Lege Dousable, you are now on the number ten

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<v Speaker 1>overall selection.

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<v Speaker 3>We're out in the war room. We're all discussing what

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<v Speaker 3>we should do. Who's you know on our board at

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<v Speaker 3>this number ten spot. And when it came down to it,

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<v Speaker 3>I went with Troy Fataneu, the offensive tackle from Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at how he would fit in the

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<v Speaker 3>Jets plan, right, this is a guy that has positioned

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<v Speaker 3>flexibility and versatility. He could start at guard or at tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think he's athletic enough he could really started tackling. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I know the Jets brought in Tyrone Smith, they traded

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<v Speaker 3>for Morgan Moses, but both of those guys are in

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<v Speaker 3>their mid thirty and we've seen the issues that Jesse

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<v Speaker 3>had at the tackle position staying healthy. So why not

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<v Speaker 3>have a guy with the versatility to essentially almost start

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<v Speaker 3>every spot on the offensive line if somebody were to

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<v Speaker 3>go down, Because you got to think in this day

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<v Speaker 3>and age, in the NFL seventeen games, ya, somebody most

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<v Speaker 3>likely is gonna get inged up, right, somebody's gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to come in and spot start. And what better player

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<v Speaker 3>than Troy Fontanau, A guy like I said, the athletic

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<v Speaker 3>ability to stay at tackle, but I believe can play

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<v Speaker 3>guard at a high level as well. Kind of reminds

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<v Speaker 3>me of AVT when he came out right and he's

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that's been able to, you know, go from

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<v Speaker 3>tackle to guard back to tackle. Hopefully this year he

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<v Speaker 3>can solidify himself at guard and just stay at guard.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Troy fontanu to beef up that offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>makes the most sense at pick number ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, dude, he played defensive line in high school. Number

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<v Speaker 1>two overall recruit out of the state of Nevada, played

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<v Speaker 1>in Nevada high school ball, so he knows Roman Dunda

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<v Speaker 1>from way back when got his degree in real estate.

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<v Speaker 1>Started every game each of the past two seasons. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this kid as a prospect. You've been saying

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks, you've been standing on the table, well probably months, Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go receiver here because there's more of a need.

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<v Speaker 1>Why ultimately you said the top three receivers were off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, why no Bowers?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you look at positional value, We've had this discussion, Ea,

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<v Speaker 3>brock Bowers, I think is a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want people coming after me and my DMS

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<v Speaker 3>and everything thinking I have something against brock Bowers. That's

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<v Speaker 3>simply not true. I think it's a hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 3>But for people that are saying, you can't just treat

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<v Speaker 3>him like a tight end, they said the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>about Kyle Pitts in Atlanta, and that still hasn't worked

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<v Speaker 3>out to this day. They were literally comparing pitch to

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<v Speaker 3>a unicorn, Ea, because that's essentially what he was. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a freak athlete, just like Brock Bowers explosive in

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<v Speaker 3>the open field, just like Brock. But if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a set plan for a guy with that type

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<v Speaker 3>of skill set, it isn't worthy of a top ten pick,

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<v Speaker 3>and it usually doesn't work out. I know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter the other day or exit whatever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to call it, EA, and I was saying Dalton Kinka, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's kind of comparable to Brock Powers, and

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<v Speaker 3>people kind of got after me and I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I think Bowers is a better athlete, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and he probably blocks a little bit better. But I

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<v Speaker 3>will say it this year, Dalton Kinkad in Buffalo, I

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<v Speaker 3>saw some dog in him blocking I didn't see at Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of it has to come with coaching or

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<v Speaker 3>what they ask him to do at Utah. So if

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<v Speaker 3>Brock Bowers has a season like Dalton Kinkaid had, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good season. But it's not a good season if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a top ten pick, right, because you got to

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<v Speaker 3>think about it. Garry Wilson was a top ten pick

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<v Speaker 3>and went over a thousand yards his rookie year. Dalton

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<v Speaker 3>k Kin I believe, had seventy three catches for right

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<v Speaker 3>under seven hundred yards, which is a quality year for

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<v Speaker 3>a tight end. But if you're going in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 3>people are gonna say that's a bad year for him.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, why would you put that kid in that predicament?

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<v Speaker 3>To me, yes, I know Rock Bowers is a weapon

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<v Speaker 3>x if you would like to say that, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>still a traditional tight end. He can line up at

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<v Speaker 3>the traditional tight end spot, you can line him up

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<v Speaker 3>in the backfield, you can split him out, but most

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<v Speaker 3>tight ends in the NFL are doing that today anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Ea, So why Big Troy over Fuaga and also overlay them?

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<v Speaker 3>I just think the position flexibility. Now, Fuaga can play

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<v Speaker 3>guard as well, but I think he's more pencil than

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<v Speaker 3>as a right tackle in a guard where try Fontonu

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<v Speaker 3>could play right tackle, left tackle, left guard, right guard,

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<v Speaker 3>and I dare say he may be even able to

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<v Speaker 3>play center as well. So I just thought, with the

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<v Speaker 3>position flexibility, and even though the Jets have a starting

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<v Speaker 3>five offensive line, why not get a guy that you

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<v Speaker 3>know is versatile enough to play every spot on the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line if somebody were to get dinged up and

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<v Speaker 3>not just play play at a high level as well

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<v Speaker 3>at those positions. So it was tough hea. I went

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth between him and Wagga because Olu Fashnu

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<v Speaker 3>and Joe Walt were already off the board, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>like I went back and forth between those two. I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought, as far as position flexibility, Troy fonton new

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<v Speaker 3>made a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put the cart before the horse,

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<v Speaker 1>but you play your best five. You talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets editions in the offseason. If you take font number

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<v Speaker 1>ten overall, will he ultimately be a day one starter

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<v Speaker 1>for you when you're opening the season up in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the question mark EA, And I think Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Douglas did a masterful job and the contracts that he

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<v Speaker 3>did with trading for Morgan Moses who doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>hot cat number. Same thing with Tyron Smith. So if

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Fontonu comes in and he's ready, he's the starter,

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<v Speaker 3>and Morgan Moses or dare I say, even Tyron Smith

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<v Speaker 3>would be your swing guy. And the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 3>they're technically getting swing tackle type money anyway, right EA,

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at and break down their contracts for

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<v Speaker 3>this last year. So to me, if Troy fontan neuw

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<v Speaker 3>comes in and proves that he's one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>starting fives. You start him like that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And now let's not forget Morgan Moses in twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>when he came to the Jets, he was essentially supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be the swing guy. Hea people forget that mkyy

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<v Speaker 3>Begthon got hurt in the first half Onirst Carolina and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why Morgan Moses went on to start for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the season, right because George Fent was dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with some injuries as well, but mky Becthon going down

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<v Speaker 3>solidified Morgan Moses in the starting lineup and he just

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<v Speaker 3>never looked back. So Morgan Moses is used to being

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<v Speaker 3>in this predicament, so I think this would be something that,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, as a player, you want to be out

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<v Speaker 3>there and start. But if they asked him, you know, Morgan,

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<v Speaker 3>we need you to be the swing guy. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a high percentage chance you're gonna play this year

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<v Speaker 3>because we just know how the NFL works and guys

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<v Speaker 3>get dinged up. I think Morgan Moses would would be

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<v Speaker 3>up for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Troy front Knew goes number ten overall to the Jets. Okay, dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>you are on the board. You had to wait out

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<v Speaker 1>round two. But it is Friday night, it is round three,

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<v Speaker 1>it is selection time. Picked number seventy two for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Drum roll silky smooth Ricky Piersow, wide receiver from Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this kid's game. A smooth route runner, does

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<v Speaker 3>a good job temple in his routes. And when I

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<v Speaker 3>say tempo, he gives you different cadences. That way, you

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<v Speaker 3>essentially don't know what route he's going to run. People

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<v Speaker 3>talked about his speed and worried about his speed he run.

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<v Speaker 3>He ran a sub four to five. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>low four four one if I'm not mistaken. And you

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<v Speaker 3>see it on film, right, he took an end a

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<v Speaker 3>round versus Miszoo thirty plus yards and ea, if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at that Missouri defense, it's gonna be like five

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<v Speaker 3>or six gut selected in this draft. So that's a

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<v Speaker 3>top notch defense, and he outran all of them to

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<v Speaker 3>the end zone. So, Ricky Piersaw, we know that there

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be a receiver taking in this draft to

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<v Speaker 3>pair with Garrett Wilson. Yes, we know. Mike Williams was

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<v Speaker 3>a big sign against free agency. But he's coming off

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<v Speaker 3>a major knee injury, right, so it'll give you the flexibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though Piersoll is a slot receiver, it'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>the flexibility to move Garrett Wilson from the outside to

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<v Speaker 3>the inside. Piersaw can play on the outside, but he

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<v Speaker 3>does a lot of his damage in the slot. So

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<v Speaker 3>in the third round, I think it makes a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sense, especially if you go O Line in the

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<v Speaker 3>first to rectify you know, the receiver room by getting

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who a lot of people see could be

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<v Speaker 3>a second round pick. But if he slides to the third,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you run that card in, especially if you

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<v Speaker 3>go O Line in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, why is he there in round three? You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it before? Is it because the size and speed concerns?

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<v Speaker 1>And with that being said, I really like this kid's

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<v Speaker 1>production last year at Florida. You're talking about sixty five catches,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and sixty five yards. He had the four

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns last season, one hundred and fifty career receptions. A

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<v Speaker 1>transfer from Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>State, Arizona some players, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>He was part of the recruiting class that included jayde

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<v Speaker 1>Day to go number two overall in this draft, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think to talk about some of the concerns maybe

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<v Speaker 1>and why are you sitting there in round three?

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<v Speaker 3>But I just think, yeah, slaughtered him as a slot guy,

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<v Speaker 3>So slot guys usually go down lower in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we talked about this being one of the

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<v Speaker 3>deepest receiving classes, which means other positions will get pushed

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<v Speaker 3>up in the draft, and you could see some receivers

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<v Speaker 3>that are second round receivers drop into the third and

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<v Speaker 3>third round receivers drop into the fourth because teams feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I can still get a quality receiver later on

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft, let me go attack a need that

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<v Speaker 3>I have and another position group that isn't as strong.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a lot of times what you see in

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<v Speaker 3>these drafts, with you know, the offensive line being so

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<v Speaker 3>deep and the receivers being so deep. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys, like even a guy like Jordan Mrgan, who

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<v Speaker 3>I have slated to go at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>first round, he may slide into the second just because

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<v Speaker 3>this is a deep offensive line class and teams that

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<v Speaker 3>have needs in other positions. If there's a premium player there,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna make an emphasis on trying to go get

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<v Speaker 3>that player because that position group is not as strong

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<v Speaker 3>and it may be harder for you to answer that

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<v Speaker 3>void later on in the draft. So I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is just, you know, a component of Ricky Pierso being

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<v Speaker 3>in a really deep receiver class. Again, he could go

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the second round, but I got

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<v Speaker 3>him here at the top of the third.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, dudes, what do you think about him being on

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<v Speaker 1>the all nickname team slick Rick?

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<v Speaker 3>You like that? I like slick Fricky Fears probably have

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<v Speaker 3>the best catching college football all last year for Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 3>going up against his body, one hand snacking the ball

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<v Speaker 3>out of the year. So he has really good hands. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>a really good route runner, temples his routes really well

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to shake free thee. There is one

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<v Speaker 3>concern and press man. Sometimes he struggles to get off press,

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<v Speaker 3>so that could be another reason why he may slip

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit lower.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I like that selection myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a former Gator, so bringing in bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>here Florida alump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Jets have a pair of seasoned veteran quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of their depth chart in Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrod Taller. But hey, did you like what you heard

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<v Speaker 1>up from Joe Douglas the other day. He said he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to build a quarterback factory here. I started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, Hey, Jets, they're gonna be adding a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>here on day three and for you, no surprise, you

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<v Speaker 1>go signal caller here round four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, without a doubt, I think every team every year

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<v Speaker 3>should take a look at a quarterback right just because,

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<v Speaker 3>for one, if you're able to develop that guy, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a trade chip later on until you just never know

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<v Speaker 3>what's gonna happen with your starting quarterback. So I took

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<v Speaker 3>a flyer here in the fourth round and one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite prospects in the draft, Michael Pratt, the quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>from Tulane. I mean to me, throws with the most

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<v Speaker 3>touched in this draft class. Now, he doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest arm ea right, and sometimes struggles with them, throws

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<v Speaker 3>deep down the field outside the numbers. But you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about a leader, three time captain right knows how to win.

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<v Speaker 3>People tend to forget. Last year against USC and the

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<v Speaker 3>Cotton Bowl, he put on a display verse them and

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<v Speaker 3>put up over fifty points against USC. Now, again, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a really good defense. So I'm a purposely by

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<v Speaker 3>saying that, but nobody gave Tulane a chance in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>He's an ultimate leader, a heck of a competitor. EA.

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<v Speaker 3>They put this guy in the run game, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>don't talk about his athletic ability. He used him in

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<v Speaker 3>the run game, and you see the toughness and grittiness

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<v Speaker 3>when he runs with the football. He's a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>people just rally around. I think he's a perfect fit

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<v Speaker 3>to come in sit behind Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 3>for two years with the opportunity maybe in two years

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<v Speaker 3>to take over as a starting quarterback for the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's stay right there, dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes Michael Pratt out of Tulane with the first of

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<v Speaker 1>two fourth round selections for the Jets. That's number one

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<v Speaker 1>eleven overall. You actually do see starting potential in this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though Pratt he sees the field really well. People

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<v Speaker 1>say it's calming in the pocket, very poised. He and also,

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<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, the toughness factor, not afraid to run it,

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<v Speaker 1>very smart, cerebral. With his athletic maybe limitations, you still

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<v Speaker 1>see a potential NFL starter here.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, and I've always been higher on micropracting people.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, starting this process, I had him as a

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<v Speaker 3>late second round pick, and then I moved him into

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<v Speaker 3>the third, so I would not be surprised if a

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<v Speaker 3>team even tried to get him in the third round.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people will say on Day

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<v Speaker 3>two it's probably going to be maybe Bo Nicks, Spencer Ratler,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Pratt was that third guy that could

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<v Speaker 3>potentially slide into the third and if not, he's most

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<v Speaker 3>likely going to be the first quarterback taken in the

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<v Speaker 3>fourth round. And good for to just to have a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty high fourth round pick if he's able to be there,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it just makes sense as a developmental guy

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<v Speaker 3>for a year or two, most likely two years, sit

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<v Speaker 3>behind Rogers, sit behind Tyrod Taylor, and I think he

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<v Speaker 3>has starting potential. I talked about it again, the way

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<v Speaker 3>he's able to elevate his team at Tulane back to

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<v Speaker 3>back years going to the American Conference Championship Game, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at what he did this year without

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<v Speaker 3>having his number one receiver, Jawan Jackson's probably going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a third round receiver for most of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>He still led them to the American Conference championship this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not fair of me to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's that athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>He's completely athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, hey, maybe doesn't have the arm strength

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<v Speaker 1>of a Josh Allen an Aaron Aaron Rodgers, but.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, who does. Yeah, this guy brings

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a multi sport star in high school, a four

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<v Speaker 1>point zero GPA guy. You mentioned the leadership in tangible,

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<v Speaker 1>so he definitely is going to be a name to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>On Day three of the draft, the Jets have two

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round selections, so with pick number one, thirty four overall,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you going?

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<v Speaker 3>I went at the defensive tackle position because if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at how that room is constructed right now, besides

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<v Speaker 3>Quinn Williams, everybody else is on a one year deal,

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<v Speaker 3>writ Zavon Kilow one year deal. Solomon Thomas Folks too,

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<v Speaker 3>one year deal. I went with Makay Wingo, who fits

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly in the system as an attacking defensive tackle three

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<v Speaker 3>technique that can help you with interior pass rush. And

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<v Speaker 3>people will say it's a little undersized, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>turn on the film, he stays up in there. Ea

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<v Speaker 3>at the point of attack against double teams. Because he

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<v Speaker 3>is undersized, he has great lets beverage. He can get

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<v Speaker 3>up under blockers. But talk about first step quickness. That

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<v Speaker 3>is what Robert Sala likes with his defensive lineman. He

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<v Speaker 3>wants them to have that first step quickness to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to create havoc in the backfield. We know that

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<v Speaker 3>this defense is run by the defensive line. Like the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line helps with everything else at linebacker and in

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<v Speaker 3>the secondary, so you can never have enough of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys in rotation. And again, I would like for the

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<v Speaker 3>just to finally draft somebody that can grow with Quinn Williams,

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<v Speaker 3>that can learn from him and eventually maybe even become

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<v Speaker 3>a starter next to him. I think this is a

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<v Speaker 3>sweet spot right here in the fourth round to take

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<v Speaker 3>a defensive tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>He started his collegiate career at Missouri, finished up at

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<v Speaker 1>LSU most of the time with the Bayou Bangles. He's

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<v Speaker 1>playing three tech. Is that where you think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>play on the next level as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I think about the LSU defense, it's a hybrid defense.

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<v Speaker 3>They do a mixture of four to three three four,

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<v Speaker 3>And you see him sometimes as a head up nose,

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<v Speaker 3>So I think he can play the one technique as well,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in this system. It's a more attacking system with

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets. It's not like he'll be in there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>taking on six or seven hundred pounds like if he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing that, the linebacker's got to go and that's how

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<v Speaker 3>this defense is bred. So I believe he can stay

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<v Speaker 3>at the one technique or the three technique. And with

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Sola's defense, both of the d tackles are interchangeable.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to be able to play both. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Makay Wingo can do both.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that people rave about his competitive nature. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also a team captain. You play the position. When

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<v Speaker 1>people say short arms, yeah, specific what what's the thought

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<v Speaker 1>process and what are you looking for on film?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you look at it in two ways, right, Because

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<v Speaker 3>this defensive tackle group, I've been saying this, I think

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<v Speaker 3>they haven't gotten enough respect for what they do. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just because of the thought process of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about. EA. People talking about short arms,

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<v Speaker 3>shorter bill guys. But if you look at the evolution

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<v Speaker 3>of where the NFL is gone, it's kind of become

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<v Speaker 3>that at the defensive tackle position. When you look at

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<v Speaker 3>guys like you know, Aaron Donald, who was shorter defensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackle right, but still had great strength at the point

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<v Speaker 3>of attack. When you look at this draft, the guys

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<v Speaker 3>like Brandon Fizz, McKay Wingo, even Byron Murphy, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest guys right, but they're very explosive in their

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<v Speaker 3>lower half. And the thing about it is they've had

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<v Speaker 3>short arms their whole lives, so they've had to adapt

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<v Speaker 3>to that. Now on film, sometimes you do see them

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<v Speaker 3>struggle get disengaging quicker because they can't get that extension

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.440
<v Speaker 3>because their arms on as long. But these again, these

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<v Speaker 3>are guys that have been playing with that deficiency their

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<v Speaker 3>whole life, if that's what you want to call it

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<v Speaker 3>a deficiency. To me, I think that's what keeps a

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<v Speaker 3>chip on their shoulder because everybody's telling them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got shorter arms, you struggle, you know, we wonder

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<v Speaker 3>can you stay up in there in the double teams?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you disengage and get off blocks and make plays

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<v Speaker 3>on the running backs and both all the guys that

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about have been able to do that on film.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you worry about a guy maybe disengaging quick

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<v Speaker 3>enough to you know, get off a blocker and make

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<v Speaker 3>it play on a running back. But again, these guys

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<v Speaker 3>have all been deficient in the area of their whole lives,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet they've still been able to make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So McKay wingo goes to the Jets with

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<v Speaker 1>the second of four of their two fourth round selections.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move into round six. Now, dudes, you've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the need for the Jets to add a safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that was prior to Ashton Davis resigning.

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<v Speaker 1>With taking that into account, you still think the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>could make a play here for that position on day three?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure. I mean the depth still isn't strong

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<v Speaker 3>at the safety position. And yeah, we talked about this

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<v Speaker 3>before Ashton came back to the Jets and signed the

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<v Speaker 3>one year deal. I thought this was a higher priority.

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<v Speaker 3>I took a safety in the third round and people

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<v Speaker 3>looked at me crazy, and I was like, have you

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<v Speaker 3>seen the debt or lack thereof on the roster right now?

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 3>How did you look at me crazy for taking a

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<v Speaker 3>safety in the third round. Knowing that Jeff Obrich and

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Salad liked to use three safeties in their defensive

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<v Speaker 3>sets at times I don't understand it, so I still

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<v Speaker 3>took a filler one Evan Williams, who I believe is

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<v Speaker 3>a really good in the box safety. This guy will

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<v Speaker 3>hit you. I mean he will hit you. So he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna fit in that mold that Robert Sala and Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>Albrick really liked that. I wouldn't put him in the

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<v Speaker 3>middlefield safety. You know, that's why we have Tony for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tony does a really good job being that middlefield half

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<v Speaker 3>field safety, but a guy that's gonna be an enforcer

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<v Speaker 3>in the box. And Ashton Davis is a combination of

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<v Speaker 3>the two. He can do both. I think Chuck Clark

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy that can do both, but it's more

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<v Speaker 3>of an in the box safety guy. And let's not

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<v Speaker 3>forget he's coming off of major knee injury. Even though

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<v Speaker 3>it was earlier in the offseason last year. You would

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<v Speaker 3>assume that he's gonna be ready. You just never know

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 3>how these things are gonna respond. So I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>a great developmental safety that could eventually turn into your

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<v Speaker 3>third safety.

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<v Speaker 1>You were down in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Ball

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<v Speaker 1>like every year. How much did he impress you during

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<v Speaker 1>that week and maybe during that time, dude, does he come,

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<v Speaker 1>does he make a transition from probably, Hey, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>could be an undrafted dude, maybe a priority free agent too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, he's going to go on day three now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think he solidified hisself in Day three, especially

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<v Speaker 3>at the Singer Bowl. You saw what you saw on

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<v Speaker 3>tape at Organ, how he flies around to the football right,

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 3>it jumps off on tape and again you know the

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.399
<v Speaker 3>mantra for the Jets all gas snow breaks. You have

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 3>to have that type of mentality when you're playing in

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 3>a Jeff Albrick Robert solid defense. So when I saw

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<v Speaker 3>him at the Singer Bowl and I saw him flying

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<v Speaker 3>around and even saw him, you know, cover better than

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I would see him because on film you

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<v Speaker 3>saw some struggles there at times when he's in open

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 3>space trying to cover in zone. He did a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit better job in mobile. But I really like him

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<v Speaker 3>as an in the box guy. I think that's where

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 3>he'll flourish. I think he'll be he'll flourish on special

0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 3>teams as well.

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<v Speaker 1>A great point about special teams. Last point here. He

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<v Speaker 1>was an effective blitzer last year, Organ, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I like him in the box, like bringing

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<v Speaker 3>him off the edge. We see from time to time.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Jeff Olbrick doesn't major in blitzing just because our

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 3>defensive line can get after you with just four. But

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 3>when he does blitz, whether it's bringing Quincy william off

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 3>the edge or even White had when he was here,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 3>sometimes bringing him, you know, through the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>defense or off the edge like Evan Williams is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that can come off the edge and get to

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Lejay dudesa boll.

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<v Speaker 1>We have some breaking news right now on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>You never know when a trade is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and reports are the Jets made their second trade of

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<v Speaker 1>the off season involving twenty twenty four draft picks on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>sending quarterback Zach Wilson and a seventh round pick number

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<v Speaker 1>two fifty six overall to the Broncos in exchange for

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Rounder number two three.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get to two oh three here on the

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft, what are your thoughts of the deal and

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson going back to the Mountain West.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we kind of knew this was coming down the pike.

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>EA Zack Wilson, you know, up and down career with

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the Jets, and you assume when the Jets signed Tyrod

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Taylor as the backup quarterback for Aaron Rodgers that there

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 3>was going to be some business that was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be done. You know, Zach Wilson wasn't with the team

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<v Speaker 3>at the start of the offseason program. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a win win honestly for both teams, right,

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 3>because sometimes as a player you just need a fresh start.

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<v Speaker 3>And you talked about it, right, He's going back to

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<v Speaker 3>the Mountain West, closer to his family. You would hope that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe with Sean Payton they can get the

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<v Speaker 3>best out of his talent. He was the number two

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<v Speaker 3>overall pick and maybe he'll be a little bit more

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>comfortable closer to family. So just was Zach Wilson the

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<v Speaker 3>best didn't work out here with the Jets, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>I think this was best needed for both teams, not

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, the Broncos, but as far as Zach

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Wilson and the Jets for him to start a.

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<v Speaker 1>New bottom line, the writing was on the wall as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as the season ended. And also just from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of this guy being who's someone who used to

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<v Speaker 1>walk the halls here at one Jets Drive. Like you said,

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you hope that he is able to get his career

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>on track in Denver. And sometimes people just need new

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 1>opportunities and a new place to start the career.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yep, perfect example. Geno Smith went through the same

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 3>thing here with the New York Jets, was able to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Giants and Chargers. Then he found his

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<v Speaker 3>home with the Seattle Seahawks. And look at him now, right,

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>pro Bowl quarterback just a year ago, played really well

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 3>last year when he was healthy. Now he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a starter for his third year in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes you just need a fresh start in a

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<v Speaker 3>new environment and hopefully you can channel some of that

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<v Speaker 3>talent that you had that made you such a high draftic.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, just wishing nothing but the best for Zach

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson as he moves forward with the Denver Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, wouldn't it be something if he's the starter when

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos actually come to the Jets next season.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see it's all unfold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is what's great because if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>it and you look at the current roster, I think

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 3>the biggest thing with Zack. People always wanted him to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to sit behind a veteran and learn what

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<v Speaker 3>if he goes out in Denver and balls ends up

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 3>being a starter because they do have the number twelve pick,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's high for a quarterback in this draft,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on who actually falls there, So they could potentially

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<v Speaker 3>maybe try to trade back and get a guy in

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 3>the second round. But either way, like Zacha has a

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<v Speaker 3>good opportunity to kind of rewrite his history in Denver,

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<v Speaker 3>And like you said, wouldn't it be poetic justice? Right

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 3>if Denver Broncos when they come to town, Zack Wilson

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<v Speaker 3>is the starting.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarter Listen, It's possible. It certainly is possible.

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Because you're talking about that Broncos quarterback room right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The most proven guy there, you would say, is Jared Stidham.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say maybe Zach Wilson honestly, yeah, yeah.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, well yeah, well, Wilson definitely has more experience, But

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know as far as like a depth chart

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<v Speaker 1>is concerned, I don't know if right now Sean Payton

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>would put Steddham first or.

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Well Stedham would be the starter for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely more experienced, so he gets a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh start. The Jets have two veteran quarterbacks in your

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>mock draft. You have already taken that developmental passer from

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Tulane for the New York Jets in the fourth round,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but you're up to the sixth round with the two

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred and third overall selection.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the Jets pick.

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<v Speaker 3>Who offensive tackle Tyland Grable from UCF, A developmental tackle

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 3>that's very athletic. Believe he ran in a sub five

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>forty at the combine, so you see the athletic ability.

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>There was a Eastern West guy had a really good

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>week in the East and West game, and he's a

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 3>guy that with his athletic ability, does a really good

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 3>job of cutting guys off from the backside. The one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that may be concerned he's not the biggest guy.

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Hea He's only about three hundred three hundred and five pounds,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes speed the power can be an issue for

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>this guy. But has really good footwear right as times up.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, his punch really well on opposing defenders. So

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>he's a guy I think it could be really a

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 3>really good developmental guy and maybe even down the stretch

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 3>be a swing guy. For you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where do you go to school?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he went to the best university in the

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 3>land EA, UCF. This has no bearing on me picking

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>him here in the sixth round.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>The University of Central Florida, where one Leja Ducible also

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>played college football.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 3>This is correct. This is correct. But again this has

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<v Speaker 3>no bearing because we saw earlier in my draft I

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 3>took Ricky Pirisol in the third round where I could

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 3>have took Javon Baker and I didn't.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Former college quarterback here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, interesting backstory, and you find a lot of those

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>there late in the draft.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Which leads us to mister.

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Irrelevant number two fifty seven overall.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Last.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, at least here's the guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a parade. I think they have this whole big

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>set up in Newport, California following the draft, so as

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>opposed to signing a priority free agent, and the Jets

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>are gonna select who here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go to the great state of West Virginia. No,

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 3>not the University of West Virginia. Ea. I'm gonna go

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>to Huntington, West Virginia. Marshall their running back Rashen Ali.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this kid's game. He is a guy that

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>has a lot of patience behind the line of scrimmage.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Is also a really good pass protector and we know

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 3>ea a lot of Rocky struggle when it comes to

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 3>that coming into the league. He's a guy that will

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 3>fit it up there and block blitzing linebackers really well.

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I think he'll be a really good developmental guy. That's

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 3>a chance to make this team on special teams and

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 3>potentially help you out on some third downs with protections.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Dane by Ruler who puts together the

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Beast every year as far as his breakdowns on all

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the college prospects. This guy has an interesting background the

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>running back from Marshall, doesn't he because he grew up

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland. His dad own and operated a jim His

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>production at school off the charts got nine zone a

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>lot lejay.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it was fifteen touchdowns last year.

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.719
<v Speaker 1>One thing you want to see him work on at

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the next level ball security, right.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 3>For sure, And you alluded to some of the great

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>things about him. He's a finisher in the red zone.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>He's a tough, physical runner, right, He's gonna get across

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 3>that goal line. But you talked about it. The ball

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 3>security he'd probably be a little bit higher up on

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 3>this draft board if it wasn't for that. He does

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 3>tend to every once in a while lose that ball.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 3>So that's something that you can hope will be developed

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 3>with coaching, and this is a perfect spot to take

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 3>him as mister irrelevant and hopefully the Justs can develop

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>this guy and he could be a really good back

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>and also again help you out on special teams.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, so what do you think about Lejay dousables

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four New York Jets draft class. Starting with

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the headliner Troy Fatanu out of Washington with that number

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>ten overall selection, you go to Florida and take Ricky

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Pearson with the third round selection, slick Rick Michael Pratt

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>developmental quarterback. There in the fourth round, McKai Wingo, defensive

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>tackle out of LSU, a really NonStop motor, a guy

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>who produced and could come in and you think fit

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>in quite well with the Jets loaded defensive line. Evan Williams,

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a hard hitting safety from Oregon who was all over

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the field. You project him as a box safety Grable

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>your fellow UC Afflam of course, a guy developmental prospect

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in the sixth round and then finally.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Rasheen Alie out of Marshall.

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Jets have a top flight running back in Brest Hall.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>We like what we saw out of is he Abana

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Kanda last year, but you could use some depth in

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that office of backfield as well.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really loved this class. And again just depending

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>on the scenario. In this scenario, the top three receivers

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 3>were gone, the top two offensive tackles were gone. I

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>could have went to least for Waga, who a lot

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>of people say GM Joe Douglas has an infinity for

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>but I went with Fatanu just because of the position flexibility.

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>I think he can maybe even play center as well.

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that's how talented this kid is. And we

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>know when the NFL guys get banged up. We got

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>two starting tackles. They're in their mid thirties, once coming

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 3>off a torn peg surgery and the other one has

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 3>hasn't had a complete season. I think in the last

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>four years. He's missed some time in Tyron Smith. So

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>you have Fortana Hugasa in there, and then even at

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 3>guard right Avt has had to deal with some injuries.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>If something were to happen to him for Tonal could

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 3>slide right in at guard and you wouldn't miss a step.

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I like what you did here in terms of positional need,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because the Jets didn't have glaring needs going into this draft,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>but they pick up an offensive lineman who you really

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like his versatility, then they get a receiver that's a

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>group you have to add to. Obviously, after this trade

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of Zach Wilson, you got to get a developmental quarterback

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>in the building. And you've been talking about these defensive

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>tackles who are going to line up adjacent to Quinn Williams,

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>but they're all on short term deals. Then safety, you've

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>been talking about depth at deposition for a long time.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Grabil is an other offensive lineman. Joe Douglas wants to

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>continue to add there to the trenches. And we saw

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the Jets play thirteen different offensive line combinations I think

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sixteen offensive linemen in all. And then finally, al Lee

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>is a guy who could bet to make this roster

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and potentially help on special teams.

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. I like like you said, the positional value

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 3>and where I took guys in regards to needs. Again,

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 3>you would like to get one of the top three receivers,

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 3>but it didn't pan out that way. In this draft scenario,

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>you get a really good offensive lineman who has the

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 3>versatility to play multiple positions. And then in the third

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 3>round our guy slick Rick pearsall right, the guy that's

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>one of the best slot receivers in this league. Now

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 3>you can't play on the outside as well, but he

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 3>does a lot of his damage in the slot. One

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 3>of the best route runners in this draft, does a

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 3>really good job going up and getting the football as well,

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>and does have speed. Even though people question that, I

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 3>believe it ran a four to four one at the combine.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 3>And I've been saying for the longest that there needs

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 3>to be a defensive tackle that can grow with Quinn Williams.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I took Makai Wingo, because if you

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 3>look at everybody else besides Quinn Williams, they're all on

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 3>one of your deals EA. And then with the trade

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to Zach Wilson, you heard GM Joe Douglas said we

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 3>would love to be a quarter factory, So why not

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>take a swing out of developmental guy in the forefront

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>of Michael Pratt, who I think will fit right in

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 3>with that quarterback Room, a proven leader and winner that

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 3>throws with a lot of touch. You can sit and

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>learn behind two really good vets and Tyrod Taylor and

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 3>also Aaron Rodgers. And then the back of the draft,

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 3>we took Evan Williams, who will help you out on

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>safety on special teams, but a guy I think eventually

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.240
<v Speaker 3>could be your number three safety in the box safety

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 3>as a great blitzer and a hard hitter and a

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 3>tone center in that secondary. Tylan Grabow developmental tackle. And

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>then Rashine Ali will be a developmental running back. So

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I really love this class. Ea, I'm sure you do.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>It's yours, it is my class.

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, so final thoughts here. We just went

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>three year mock draft. But your thoughts on what's going

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>ahead with the decisions that are going to be made

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Douglas and crews gonna happen at the top

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of the draft Thursday night.

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 3>So in talking about exact, not about the Jets, but

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 3>literally what's gonna happen with the draft and how it can.

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, impact dudes, bottom line, how's it going to

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>impact what the Jets landscape looks like?

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, looking at the draft, I could see you

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 3>know we are kind of it's almost inevitable that Caleb

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Williams most likely is going number one overall. Look at

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 3>number two, I still think Jay there's a strong belief

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 3>that Jayde and Daniels will go to overall. Just makes

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 3>too much sense with Cliff Kingsbury being the offensive coordinator

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 3>and looking at you know, jayd and Daniels' skill set

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>just looks like a perfect marriage for those two guys. Honestly,

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 3>at three, I think is where the draft starts. I

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 3>think the page game trade out of three. Honestly, I

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna tray because they just have so many

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 3>holes on their roster right now, why not try to

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 3>trade back and get some more blue chip players because

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 3>the Cobe Brissette is proven he can be a spot

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 3>starter in this league and even win you games. Right So,

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 3>like I think, you know, Comeo to Rob Mayo has

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of faith in Jacoby Brisset, and I believe

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 3>that team does as well. Where they take a filler

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.399
<v Speaker 3>on a quarterback, probably in the second round.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you still circling Minnesota there?

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think Minnesota trades up depending on if they

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>have the enough capital to do it. That now they

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 3>do have two first round picks this year. I think

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 3>it would take two first this year and maybe even

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a third to move from eleven to three. And if

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 3>you're the New England Pagers, you try to even get

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 3>three first for them to move up, right, So I

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>believe they have the draft capitol to potentially move up

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 3>depending on what they want to do with picks in

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five. Right, But they do have the two

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 3>first round picks this year because of the trade they

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 3>made with the Houston Texans already. So when you look

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 3>at that, I think Minnesota definitely, you know, moves up

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 3>and tries to get their quarterback and I think it'll

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 3>be Drake May at number three. If you just look

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 3>at the history of Drake May, he was coached by

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Josh McCown in high school, who is the current quarterback

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 3>coach for the Minnesota Vikings.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you be surprised if any one other than Marvin

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Harrison Junior goes for overall to Arizona.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 3>No, that's not happening. Marvin Harrison Junior will be the

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 3>number four pick at Arizona.

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:15.439
<v Speaker 1>So let's get to five car balls starting his program

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>there with the Chargers. Are you looking at them as

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a potential team that is going to look to add

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of assets and maybe potentially gets out.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they're going to try to trade back

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 3>if they can, just depending on how the first three

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 3>picks go, sat Minnesota isn't able to make a trade

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 3>happen with New England. I think New England actually takes

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Marvin Harrison at number three. Then if that's the case,

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 3>just again, because they need so many you know, they

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 3>have so many holes on their roster, why not get

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 3>a blue chip guy. It could be your true number

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 3>one receiver out in New England. So the Chargers I

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 3>think will potentially try to trade out and maybe they's

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 3>a partner with the Minnesota Vikings. If New England can't

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 3>trade out, I think Arizona would be crazy to trade out.

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 3>If Marvin Harrison Junior is there, why not pair him

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>with Kylin Murray And I Murray has a true number

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 3>one because they lost their number one into receiver this offseason,

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 3>So Michael Wilson is a nice young player, So I

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 3>think Martin Harrison goes for Depending on what happens with

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 3>the third pick, I think the Chargers either take Mylaitue

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Neighbors or Joe All or trade out.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's end here Joe Douglas, At what point

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>does he make a couple of calls? And we've done

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>multiple segments on this over the last few weeks, at

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>what point do you make a call to go up?

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 2>And at what point are you seriously considering moving back?

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so when you get to pick seven, right, you

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 3>would assume that depending on if the Chargers take Joe

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 3>All or my league neighbors, if they don't take one

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of those two guys, the Titans are going to take

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 3>one of those guys. Where I think we're kind of

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 3>assuming at this point, because Joe Shane and Brian Dabel

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 3>haven't been able to pick a quarterback of their own

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>for the future, you would assume at number six, if

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 3>they don't try to trade up, they're going to pick

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback at that spot. Right. I know a lot

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 3>of Giants fans will not love to hear that, but

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm just letting you know how football minds think. Every

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>GM and every head coach want to be attached to

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback of their picking. Well, they haven't been allotted

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>that favorite because Daniel Jones was already there when both

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 3>of those guys got there. So when you get to

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>seven again, if Joe All is there. If he's not,

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 3>then you take oulu fashionu right, and then that's when

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.840
<v Speaker 3>if you're the Jets, that's when you call up now

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 3>again in this scenario, if the Chargers decide to go

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 3>offensive tackle instead of receiver, now you're potentially looking at

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 3>two of the top three receivers still there at pig eight.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 3>So if you're the Jets, you're sitting pretty right there, right,

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 3>You're sitting pretty pretty The only thing is you worry

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 3>about another team trying to call and jump you. That's

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the issue at the Jets have. So even regardless of

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 3>if there is two receivers still there in the top ten,

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I still would call it of falcons and see because

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of people assume they're going to

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>take the first defensive player off the board, which would

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>be Dallas Turner where they feel comfortable, you know, coming

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>back just two spots, maybe giving up a fourth to

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 3>the six round pick to move back two spots to

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 3>still take their guy and have the Jets move up.

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 3>But eight, I think that's where it happens.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So you're circling number eight.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Conversely, I don't think the Jets actually do have a

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>bad scenario. But what's the worst scenario where if you're

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dee, like, hey, I'm really looking to collect another two,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I want more assets here? What happens at the top

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>where you're seriously looking for a dance partner to get

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 1>out of there?

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, this could be the worst case scenario here, say

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 3>the top two tackles, Well, the scenario that I played

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 3>for us, right, the top two tackles are gone, the

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 3>top three receivers are gone. So at ten, who is

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 3>going to be aggressive enough to move up for tackles

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 3>when this is a deep tackle class. And if you're

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 3>saying that fashion New and are the two blue chip

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 3>left tackles, even though Waga and fot New are really

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 3>good and so were Tyler Guyan and Maarus Mems, well

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 3>you may feel like one of those dudes are gonna

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>fall to you. Do I need to give up draft

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 3>capital to move up? That's the only issue. And that's

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 3>why I did that exercise in our draft, right, because

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 3>that was that's literally the scenario the Jets could be

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 3>in where you most likely it's better for you to

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 3>just pick at ten because who's gonna truly want to

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>move up if a lot of those tackles. Guys usually

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 3>only move up for quarterbacks or offensive tackles right or

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 3>top tier receivers. But if the top receivers are gone

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 3>and this is a deep offensive tackle class and say

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 3>fashion New at all is only are only like three

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 3>or four spots from Fuaga fought New or you know,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Memes or Tyler Guyan, then if you're a team, you're like,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.919
<v Speaker 3>I'm not training up. One of those guys are gonna

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 3>fall to me. So that could be a scenario. The

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Jets are in now you try to see if somebody

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 3>wants to, you know, move up for you know who

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 3>knows Brian Thomas. I don't see somebody moving up to

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 3>number ten for him, even though he's a really good player.

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 3>But unless somebody like really loves for Wagga, that would

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 3>be the only scenario. But we know, we've heard that

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>Joe d has the fut you know, affinity for for Woga,

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if he just doesn't turn that

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 3>card in himself.

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, the weight it's almost over, it's here, the twenty

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty four NFL Draft. Is it finally upon us?

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Hey, dude, it's been so much fun preview in the

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>draft over the last few weeks. We're gonna break it

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>down all next week. Why don't you tell folks where

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>they can find you over the weekend.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I'll be on CBS Sports Network this whole

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>week and throughout the weekend and CBS Sports HQ breaking down,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, different draft scenarios and during the draft breaking

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<v Speaker 3>down picks from everybody. So it's gonna be a fun

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<v Speaker 3>weekend again. He ate. So many players work their whole

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<v Speaker 3>life and their dreams were finally coming true. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>always a special time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>Special time of year, great analysis. We will talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you next week, brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, appreciate it. Yeah,