Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets podcast, Eric Allen joined by
Speaker 1: Leja Duza Bawl.
Speaker 2: Draft Week is here. Dudes, it's upon us.
Speaker 3: Can you believe it? Ea? I mean I feel like
Speaker 3: the season ended maybe a month ago, right, I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, the Super Bowl in Vegas was right like
Speaker 3: literally yesterday, and now here we are, look at us
Speaker 3: already ready for the new era of players to come
Speaker 3: into the brotherhood of the NFL. Man Tom Flies, Tom Flies.
Speaker 2: Hea, time certainly does fly.
Speaker 1: And this is our last pre draft podcast with dues,
Speaker 1: and we're putting you on the clock for the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. The Jets have seven overall selections dues, starting.
Speaker 2: With number ten overall.
Speaker 1: Before we get to those picks, how did you go
Speaker 1: about targeting players for the Jets needs this spring?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I went back and forth, and I actually
Speaker 3: do this exercise where I think and I run down
Speaker 3: like what teams or who they could potentially pick before
Speaker 3: the Jets actually picked. So it was like a real exercise.
Speaker 3: So when you look at this draft, it's based on
Speaker 3: you know, going through each round seeing what player may
Speaker 3: or may not be there most more specimply, in first round, right,
Speaker 3: I looked at the first nine picks, and did you
Speaker 3: know some evaluation of what teams could potentially trade up
Speaker 3: for the quarterbacks at the top of the draft, what
Speaker 3: teams need, have certain needs at certain positions. And that's
Speaker 3: how I was able to make my pick at number
Speaker 3: ten and then even going down to the third round, right,
Speaker 3: just going through the draft seeing what player could possibly
Speaker 3: be there. So that's that's how, like I said, it's
Speaker 3: I was. I would want to say it was tedious
Speaker 3: because I love going through this exercise because this is probably,
Speaker 3: ea what my tenth mock draft, right, so it gets
Speaker 3: fun every time when you just, you know, decipher who
Speaker 3: could potentially be there, what team has a need, and
Speaker 3: how they tried to fill it as to posed as
Speaker 3: opposed to what the Jets are going to need at
Speaker 3: that certain pick.
Speaker 1: All right, we control the cards, so we could do
Speaker 1: this different than what's going to happen on draft weekend. Correct, Hey,
Speaker 1: goal in order do you want to lead up to
Speaker 1: number ten? Should we start backwards, should we start all
Speaker 1: the way from mister irrelevant? Or you want to do
Speaker 1: this traditional style?
Speaker 3: Let's do a traditional style.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, here we go number ten overall? Who did
Speaker 1: he consider here before you put in the card.
Speaker 3: Well, eh, I don't believe it's a secret anymore. Uh
Speaker 3: my affinity from Roma Dune day. Yeah, but in this
Speaker 3: mock he was already gone. So unfortunately he was not
Speaker 3: there at the number ten pick for the Jets. So
Speaker 3: I went back and back and forth to see best
Speaker 3: player available, best fit, right, and that's how I came
Speaker 3: up with who I picked at the number ten spot.
Speaker 1: All right, So who was on the board. Who were
Speaker 1: some names that Jets fans like? Who was on the board? Yep,
Speaker 1: before you picked this a certain peck twelve alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, brock Bauers was still on the board. JC Latham
Speaker 3: was still on the board, and Talie Uagga was still
Speaker 3: on the board.
Speaker 1: Okay, Lege Dousable, you are now on the number ten
Speaker 1: overall selection.
Speaker 3: We're out in the war room. We're all discussing what
Speaker 3: we should do. Who's you know on our board at
Speaker 3: this number ten spot. And when it came down to it,
Speaker 3: I went with Troy Fataneu, the offensive tackle from Washington.
Speaker 3: When you look at how he would fit in the
Speaker 3: Jets plan, right, this is a guy that has positioned
Speaker 3: flexibility and versatility. He could start at guard or at tackle,
Speaker 3: but I think he's athletic enough he could really started tackling. Yes,
Speaker 3: I know the Jets brought in Tyrone Smith, they traded
Speaker 3: for Morgan Moses, but both of those guys are in
Speaker 3: their mid thirty and we've seen the issues that Jesse
Speaker 3: had at the tackle position staying healthy. So why not
Speaker 3: have a guy with the versatility to essentially almost start
Speaker 3: every spot on the offensive line if somebody were to
Speaker 3: go down, Because you got to think in this day
Speaker 3: and age, in the NFL seventeen games, ya, somebody most
Speaker 3: likely is gonna get inged up, right, somebody's gonna have
Speaker 3: to come in and spot start. And what better player
Speaker 3: than Troy Fontanau, A guy like I said, the athletic
Speaker 3: ability to stay at tackle, but I believe can play
Speaker 3: guard at a high level as well. Kind of reminds
Speaker 3: me of AVT when he came out right and he's
Speaker 3: a guy that's been able to, you know, go from
Speaker 3: tackle to guard back to tackle. Hopefully this year he
Speaker 3: can solidify himself at guard and just stay at guard.
Speaker 3: I think Troy fontanu to beef up that offensive line
Speaker 3: makes the most sense at pick number ten.
Speaker 1: Interesting, dude, he played defensive line in high school. Number
Speaker 1: two overall recruit out of the state of Nevada, played
Speaker 1: in Nevada high school ball, so he knows Roman Dunda
Speaker 1: from way back when got his degree in real estate.
Speaker 1: Started every game each of the past two seasons. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like this kid as a prospect. You've been saying
Speaker 1: for weeks, you've been standing on the table, well probably months, Yet,
Speaker 1: gotta go receiver here because there's more of a need.
Speaker 1: Why ultimately you said the top three receivers were off.
Speaker 2: Okay, why no Bowers?
Speaker 3: Well, when you look at positional value, We've had this discussion, Ea,
Speaker 3: brock Bowers, I think is a hell of a player.
Speaker 3: I don't want people coming after me and my DMS
Speaker 3: and everything thinking I have something against brock Bowers. That's
Speaker 3: simply not true. I think it's a hell of a player.
Speaker 3: But for people that are saying, you can't just treat
Speaker 3: him like a tight end, they said the same thing
Speaker 3: about Kyle Pitts in Atlanta, and that still hasn't worked
Speaker 3: out to this day. They were literally comparing pitch to
Speaker 3: a unicorn, Ea, because that's essentially what he was. He
Speaker 3: was a freak athlete, just like Brock Bowers explosive in
Speaker 3: the open field, just like Brock. But if you don't
Speaker 3: have a set plan for a guy with that type
Speaker 3: of skill set, it isn't worthy of a top ten pick,
Speaker 3: and it usually doesn't work out. I know, I was
Speaker 3: on Twitter the other day or exit whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, EA, and I was saying Dalton Kinka, like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's kind of comparable to Brock Powers, and
Speaker 3: people kind of got after me and I would say,
Speaker 3: I said, I think Bowers is a better athlete, right,
Speaker 3: and he probably blocks a little bit better. But I
Speaker 3: will say it this year, Dalton Kinkad in Buffalo, I
Speaker 3: saw some dog in him blocking I didn't see at Utah.
Speaker 3: So a lot of it has to come with coaching or
Speaker 3: what they ask him to do at Utah. So if
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers has a season like Dalton Kinkaid had, it's
Speaker 3: a good season. But it's not a good season if
Speaker 3: you're a top ten pick, right, because you got to
Speaker 3: think about it. Garry Wilson was a top ten pick
Speaker 3: and went over a thousand yards his rookie year. Dalton
Speaker 3: k Kin I believe, had seventy three catches for right
Speaker 3: under seven hundred yards, which is a quality year for
Speaker 3: a tight end. But if you're going in the top ten,
Speaker 3: people are gonna say that's a bad year for him.
Speaker 3: So like, why would you put that kid in that predicament?
Speaker 3: To me, yes, I know Rock Bowers is a weapon
Speaker 3: x if you would like to say that, but he's
Speaker 3: still a traditional tight end. He can line up at
Speaker 3: the traditional tight end spot, you can line him up
Speaker 3: in the backfield, you can split him out, but most
Speaker 3: tight ends in the NFL are doing that today anyway.
Speaker 1: Ea, So why Big Troy over Fuaga and also overlay them?
Speaker 3: I just think the position flexibility. Now, Fuaga can play
Speaker 3: guard as well, but I think he's more pencil than
Speaker 3: as a right tackle in a guard where try Fontonu
Speaker 3: could play right tackle, left tackle, left guard, right guard,
Speaker 3: and I dare say he may be even able to
Speaker 3: play center as well. So I just thought, with the
Speaker 3: position flexibility, and even though the Jets have a starting
Speaker 3: five offensive line, why not get a guy that you
Speaker 3: know is versatile enough to play every spot on the
Speaker 3: offensive line if somebody were to get dinged up and
Speaker 3: not just play play at a high level as well
Speaker 3: at those positions. So it was tough hea. I went
Speaker 3: back and forth between him and Wagga because Olu Fashnu
Speaker 3: and Joe Walt were already off the board, right, So
Speaker 3: like I went back and forth between those two. I
Speaker 3: just thought, as far as position flexibility, Troy fonton new
Speaker 3: made a lot more sense.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put the cart before the horse,
Speaker 1: but you play your best five. You talked about the
Speaker 1: Jets editions in the offseason. If you take font number
Speaker 1: ten overall, will he ultimately be a day one starter
Speaker 1: for you when you're opening the season up in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four?
Speaker 3: And that's the question mark EA, And I think Joe
Speaker 3: Douglas did a masterful job and the contracts that he
Speaker 3: did with trading for Morgan Moses who doesn't have a
Speaker 3: hot cat number. Same thing with Tyron Smith. So if
Speaker 3: Troy Fontonu comes in and he's ready, he's the starter,
Speaker 3: and Morgan Moses or dare I say, even Tyron Smith
Speaker 3: would be your swing guy. And the crazy thing is
Speaker 3: they're technically getting swing tackle type money anyway, right EA,
Speaker 3: when you look at and break down their contracts for
Speaker 3: this last year. So to me, if Troy fontan neuw
Speaker 3: comes in and proves that he's one of the best
Speaker 3: starting fives. You start him like that's what it is.
Speaker 3: And now let's not forget Morgan Moses in twenty one
Speaker 3: when he came to the Jets, he was essentially supposed
Speaker 3: to be the swing guy. Hea people forget that mkyy
Speaker 3: Begthon got hurt in the first half Onirst Carolina and
Speaker 3: that's why Morgan Moses went on to start for the
Speaker 3: rest of the season, right because George Fent was dealing
Speaker 3: with some injuries as well, but mky Becthon going down
Speaker 3: solidified Morgan Moses in the starting lineup and he just
Speaker 3: never looked back. So Morgan Moses is used to being
Speaker 3: in this predicament, so I think this would be something that,
Speaker 3: of course, as a player, you want to be out
Speaker 3: there and start. But if they asked him, you know, Morgan,
Speaker 3: we need you to be the swing guy. And there's
Speaker 3: probably a high percentage chance you're gonna play this year
Speaker 3: because we just know how the NFL works and guys
Speaker 3: get dinged up. I think Morgan Moses would would be
Speaker 3: up for that.
Speaker 1: Troy front Knew goes number ten overall to the Jets. Okay, dudes,
Speaker 1: you are on the board. You had to wait out
Speaker 1: round two. But it is Friday night, it is round three,
Speaker 1: it is selection time. Picked number seventy two for the
Speaker 1: New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Drum roll silky smooth Ricky Piersow, wide receiver from Florida.
Speaker 3: I love this kid's game. A smooth route runner, does
Speaker 3: a good job temple in his routes. And when I
Speaker 3: say tempo, he gives you different cadences. That way, you
Speaker 3: essentially don't know what route he's going to run. People
Speaker 3: talked about his speed and worried about his speed he run.
Speaker 3: He ran a sub four to five. I think I
Speaker 3: low four four one if I'm not mistaken. And you
Speaker 3: see it on film, right, he took an end a
Speaker 3: round versus Miszoo thirty plus yards and ea, if you
Speaker 3: look at that Missouri defense, it's gonna be like five
Speaker 3: or six gut selected in this draft. So that's a
Speaker 3: top notch defense, and he outran all of them to
Speaker 3: the end zone. So, Ricky Piersaw, we know that there
Speaker 3: needs to be a receiver taking in this draft to
Speaker 3: pair with Garrett Wilson. Yes, we know. Mike Williams was
Speaker 3: a big sign against free agency. But he's coming off
Speaker 3: a major knee injury, right, so it'll give you the flexibility.
Speaker 3: Even though Piersoll is a slot receiver, it'll give you
Speaker 3: the flexibility to move Garrett Wilson from the outside to
Speaker 3: the inside. Piersaw can play on the outside, but he
Speaker 3: does a lot of his damage in the slot. So
Speaker 3: in the third round, I think it makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense, especially if you go O Line in the
Speaker 3: first to rectify you know, the receiver room by getting
Speaker 3: a guy who a lot of people see could be
Speaker 3: a second round pick. But if he slides to the third,
Speaker 3: I think you run that card in, especially if you
Speaker 3: go O Line in the first round.
Speaker 1: Okay, why is he there in round three? You mentioned
Speaker 1: it before? Is it because the size and speed concerns?
Speaker 1: And with that being said, I really like this kid's
Speaker 1: production last year at Florida. You're talking about sixty five catches,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty five yards. He had the four
Speaker 1: touchdowns last season, one hundred and fifty career receptions. A
Speaker 1: transfer from Arizona.
Speaker 3: State, Arizona some players, you know what.
Speaker 1: He was part of the recruiting class that included jayde
Speaker 1: Day to go number two overall in this draft, do
Speaker 1: you think to talk about some of the concerns maybe
Speaker 1: and why are you sitting there in round three?
Speaker 3: But I just think, yeah, slaughtered him as a slot guy,
Speaker 3: So slot guys usually go down lower in the draft.
Speaker 3: And then we talked about this being one of the
Speaker 3: deepest receiving classes, which means other positions will get pushed
Speaker 3: up in the draft, and you could see some receivers
Speaker 3: that are second round receivers drop into the third and
Speaker 3: third round receivers drop into the fourth because teams feel
Speaker 3: like I can still get a quality receiver later on
Speaker 3: in the draft, let me go attack a need that
Speaker 3: I have and another position group that isn't as strong.
Speaker 3: So that's a lot of times what you see in
Speaker 3: these drafts, with you know, the offensive line being so
Speaker 3: deep and the receivers being so deep. A lot of
Speaker 3: those guys, like even a guy like Jordan Mrgan, who
Speaker 3: I have slated to go at the end of the
Speaker 3: first round, he may slide into the second just because
Speaker 3: this is a deep offensive line class and teams that
Speaker 3: have needs in other positions. If there's a premium player there,
Speaker 3: you're gonna make an emphasis on trying to go get
Speaker 3: that player because that position group is not as strong
Speaker 3: and it may be harder for you to answer that
Speaker 3: void later on in the draft. So I think this
Speaker 3: is just, you know, a component of Ricky Pierso being
Speaker 3: in a really deep receiver class. Again, he could go
Speaker 3: at the end of the second round, but I got
Speaker 3: him here at the top of the third.
Speaker 1: Hey, dudes, what do you think about him being on
Speaker 1: the all nickname team slick Rick?
Speaker 3: You like that? I like slick Fricky Fears probably have
Speaker 3: the best catching college football all last year for Charlotte,
Speaker 3: going up against his body, one hand snacking the ball
Speaker 3: out of the year. So he has really good hands. Again,
Speaker 3: a really good route runner, temples his routes really well
Speaker 3: to be able to shake free thee. There is one
Speaker 3: concern and press man. Sometimes he struggles to get off press,
Speaker 3: so that could be another reason why he may slip
Speaker 3: a little bit lower.
Speaker 2: Okay. I like that selection myself.
Speaker 1: I am a former Gator, so bringing in bringing in
Speaker 1: here Florida alump.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So the Jets have a pair of seasoned veteran quarterbacks
Speaker 1: at the top of their depth chart in Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taller. But hey, did you like what you heard
Speaker 1: up from Joe Douglas the other day. He said he
Speaker 1: wants to build a quarterback factory here. I started thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, Hey, Jets, they're gonna be adding a quarterback
Speaker 1: here on day three and for you, no surprise, you
Speaker 1: go signal caller here round four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt, I think every team every year
Speaker 3: should take a look at a quarterback right just because,
Speaker 3: for one, if you're able to develop that guy, he's
Speaker 3: a trade chip later on until you just never know
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with your starting quarterback. So I took
Speaker 3: a flyer here in the fourth round and one of
Speaker 3: my favorite prospects in the draft, Michael Pratt, the quarterback
Speaker 3: from Tulane. I mean to me, throws with the most
Speaker 3: touched in this draft class. Now, he doesn't have the
Speaker 3: biggest arm ea right, and sometimes struggles with them, throws
Speaker 3: deep down the field outside the numbers. But you talk
Speaker 3: about a leader, three time captain right knows how to win.
Speaker 3: People tend to forget. Last year against USC and the
Speaker 3: Cotton Bowl, he put on a display verse them and
Speaker 3: put up over fifty points against USC. Now, again, that's
Speaker 3: not a really good defense. So I'm a purposely by
Speaker 3: saying that, but nobody gave Tulane a chance in that game.
Speaker 3: He's an ultimate leader, a heck of a competitor. EA.
Speaker 3: They put this guy in the run game, right, so
Speaker 3: don't talk about his athletic ability. He used him in
Speaker 3: the run game, and you see the toughness and grittiness
Speaker 3: when he runs with the football. He's a guy that
Speaker 3: people just rally around. I think he's a perfect fit
Speaker 3: to come in sit behind Tyrod Taylor and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: for two years with the opportunity maybe in two years
Speaker 3: to take over as a starting quarterback for the New
Speaker 3: York Jets.
Speaker 2: So let's stay right there, dudes.
Speaker 1: Takes Michael Pratt out of Tulane with the first of
Speaker 1: two fourth round selections for the Jets. That's number one
Speaker 1: eleven overall. You actually do see starting potential in this guy.
Speaker 1: Even though Pratt he sees the field really well. People
Speaker 1: say it's calming in the pocket, very poised. He and also,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, the toughness factor, not afraid to run it,
Speaker 1: very smart, cerebral. With his athletic maybe limitations, you still
Speaker 1: see a potential NFL starter here.
Speaker 3: I do, and I've always been higher on micropracting people.
Speaker 3: I mean, starting this process, I had him as a
Speaker 3: late second round pick, and then I moved him into
Speaker 3: the third, so I would not be surprised if a
Speaker 3: team even tried to get him in the third round.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people will say on Day
Speaker 3: two it's probably going to be maybe Bo Nicks, Spencer Ratler,
Speaker 3: and I think Pratt was that third guy that could
Speaker 3: potentially slide into the third and if not, he's most
Speaker 3: likely going to be the first quarterback taken in the
Speaker 3: fourth round. And good for to just to have a
Speaker 3: pretty high fourth round pick if he's able to be there,
Speaker 3: I think it just makes sense as a developmental guy
Speaker 3: for a year or two, most likely two years, sit
Speaker 3: behind Rogers, sit behind Tyrod Taylor, and I think he
Speaker 3: has starting potential. I talked about it again, the way
Speaker 3: he's able to elevate his team at Tulane back to
Speaker 3: back years going to the American Conference Championship Game, and
Speaker 3: if you look at what he did this year without
Speaker 3: having his number one receiver, Jawan Jackson's probably going to
Speaker 3: be a third round receiver for most of the year.
Speaker 3: He still led them to the American Conference championship this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not fair of me to say, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy's that athletic.
Speaker 2: He's completely athletic.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, maybe doesn't have the arm strength
Speaker 1: of a Josh Allen an Aaron Aaron Rodgers, but.
Speaker 2: At the same time, who does. Yeah, this guy brings
Speaker 2: a lot to the table.
Speaker 1: He's a multi sport star in high school, a four
Speaker 1: point zero GPA guy. You mentioned the leadership in tangible,
Speaker 1: so he definitely is going to be a name to watch.
Speaker 1: On Day three of the draft, the Jets have two
Speaker 1: fourth round selections, so with pick number one, thirty four overall,
Speaker 1: where are you going?
Speaker 3: I went at the defensive tackle position because if you
Speaker 3: look at how that room is constructed right now, besides
Speaker 3: Quinn Williams, everybody else is on a one year deal,
Speaker 3: writ Zavon Kilow one year deal. Solomon Thomas Folks too,
Speaker 3: one year deal. I went with Makay Wingo, who fits
Speaker 3: perfectly in the system as an attacking defensive tackle three
Speaker 3: technique that can help you with interior pass rush. And
Speaker 3: people will say it's a little undersized, but if you
Speaker 3: turn on the film, he stays up in there. Ea
Speaker 3: at the point of attack against double teams. Because he
Speaker 3: is undersized, he has great lets beverage. He can get
Speaker 3: up under blockers. But talk about first step quickness. That
Speaker 3: is what Robert Sala likes with his defensive lineman. He
Speaker 3: wants them to have that first step quickness to be
Speaker 3: able to create havoc in the backfield. We know that
Speaker 3: this defense is run by the defensive line. Like the
Speaker 3: defensive line helps with everything else at linebacker and in
Speaker 3: the secondary, so you can never have enough of those
Speaker 3: guys in rotation. And again, I would like for the
Speaker 3: just to finally draft somebody that can grow with Quinn Williams,
Speaker 3: that can learn from him and eventually maybe even become
Speaker 3: a starter next to him. I think this is a
Speaker 3: sweet spot right here in the fourth round to take
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He started his collegiate career at Missouri, finished up at
Speaker 1: LSU most of the time with the Bayou Bangles. He's
Speaker 1: playing three tech. Is that where you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: play on the next level as well?
Speaker 3: Well? I think about the LSU defense, it's a hybrid defense.
Speaker 3: They do a mixture of four to three three four,
Speaker 3: And you see him sometimes as a head up nose,
Speaker 3: So I think he can play the one technique as well,
Speaker 3: especially in this system. It's a more attacking system with
Speaker 3: the Jets. It's not like he'll be in there, you know,
Speaker 3: taking on six or seven hundred pounds like if he's
Speaker 3: doing that, the linebacker's got to go and that's how
Speaker 3: this defense is bred. So I believe he can stay
Speaker 3: at the one technique or the three technique. And with
Speaker 3: Robert Sola's defense, both of the d tackles are interchangeable.
Speaker 3: You got to be able to play both. I think
Speaker 3: Makay Wingo can do both.
Speaker 1: I like that people rave about his competitive nature. He
Speaker 1: was also a team captain. You play the position. When
Speaker 1: people say short arms, yeah, specific what what's the thought
Speaker 1: process and what are you looking for on film?
Speaker 3: Well, you look at it in two ways, right, Because
Speaker 3: this defensive tackle group, I've been saying this, I think
Speaker 3: they haven't gotten enough respect for what they do. And
Speaker 3: I think it's just because of the thought process of
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. EA. People talking about short arms,
Speaker 3: shorter bill guys. But if you look at the evolution
Speaker 3: of where the NFL is gone, it's kind of become
Speaker 3: that at the defensive tackle position. When you look at
Speaker 3: guys like you know, Aaron Donald, who was shorter defensive
Speaker 3: tackle right, but still had great strength at the point
Speaker 3: of attack. When you look at this draft, the guys
Speaker 3: like Brandon Fizz, McKay Wingo, even Byron Murphy, they're not
Speaker 3: the biggest guys right, but they're very explosive in their
Speaker 3: lower half. And the thing about it is they've had
Speaker 3: short arms their whole lives, so they've had to adapt
Speaker 3: to that. Now on film, sometimes you do see them
Speaker 3: struggle get disengaging quicker because they can't get that extension
Speaker 3: because their arms on as long. But these again, these
Speaker 3: are guys that have been playing with that deficiency their
Speaker 3: whole life, if that's what you want to call it
Speaker 3: a deficiency. To me, I think that's what keeps a
Speaker 3: chip on their shoulder because everybody's telling them, you know,
Speaker 3: you got shorter arms, you struggle, you know, we wonder
Speaker 3: can you stay up in there in the double teams?
Speaker 3: Can you disengage and get off blocks and make plays
Speaker 3: on the running backs and both all the guys that
Speaker 3: I talked about have been able to do that on film.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you worry about a guy maybe disengaging quick
Speaker 3: enough to you know, get off a blocker and make
Speaker 3: it play on a running back. But again, these guys
Speaker 3: have all been deficient in the area of their whole lives,
Speaker 3: and yet they've still been able to make plays.
Speaker 1: All right, So McKay wingo goes to the Jets with
Speaker 1: the second of four of their two fourth round selections.
Speaker 1: Let's move into round six. Now, dudes, you've been talking
Speaker 1: about the need for the Jets to add a safety.
Speaker 2: Now that was prior to Ashton Davis resigning.
Speaker 1: With taking that into account, you still think the Jets
Speaker 1: could make a play here for that position on day three?
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I mean the depth still isn't strong
Speaker 3: at the safety position. And yeah, we talked about this
Speaker 3: before Ashton came back to the Jets and signed the
Speaker 3: one year deal. I thought this was a higher priority.
Speaker 3: I took a safety in the third round and people
Speaker 3: looked at me crazy, and I was like, have you
Speaker 3: seen the debt or lack thereof on the roster right now?
Speaker 3: How did you look at me crazy for taking a
Speaker 3: safety in the third round. Knowing that Jeff Obrich and
Speaker 3: Robert Salad liked to use three safeties in their defensive
Speaker 3: sets at times I don't understand it, so I still
Speaker 3: took a filler one Evan Williams, who I believe is
Speaker 3: a really good in the box safety. This guy will
Speaker 3: hit you. I mean he will hit you. So he's
Speaker 3: gonna fit in that mold that Robert Sala and Jeff
Speaker 3: Albrick really liked that. I wouldn't put him in the
Speaker 3: middlefield safety. You know, that's why we have Tony for it.
Speaker 3: Tony does a really good job being that middlefield half
Speaker 3: field safety, but a guy that's gonna be an enforcer
Speaker 3: in the box. And Ashton Davis is a combination of
Speaker 3: the two. He can do both. I think Chuck Clark
Speaker 3: is a guy that can do both, but it's more
Speaker 3: of an in the box safety guy. And let's not
Speaker 3: forget he's coming off of major knee injury. Even though
Speaker 3: it was earlier in the offseason last year. You would
Speaker 3: assume that he's gonna be ready. You just never know
Speaker 3: how these things are gonna respond. So I think he's
Speaker 3: a great developmental safety that could eventually turn into your
Speaker 3: third safety.
Speaker 1: You were down in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Ball
Speaker 1: like every year. How much did he impress you during
Speaker 1: that week and maybe during that time, dude, does he come,
Speaker 1: does he make a transition from probably, Hey, this guy
Speaker 1: could be an undrafted dude, maybe a priority free agent too.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's going to go on day three now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he solidified hisself in Day three, especially
Speaker 3: at the Singer Bowl. You saw what you saw on
Speaker 3: tape at Organ, how he flies around to the football right,
Speaker 3: it jumps off on tape and again you know the
Speaker 3: mantra for the Jets all gas snow breaks. You have
Speaker 3: to have that type of mentality when you're playing in
Speaker 3: a Jeff Albrick Robert solid defense. So when I saw
Speaker 3: him at the Singer Bowl and I saw him flying
Speaker 3: around and even saw him, you know, cover better than
Speaker 3: I thought I would see him because on film you
Speaker 3: saw some struggles there at times when he's in open
Speaker 3: space trying to cover in zone. He did a little
Speaker 3: bit better job in mobile. But I really like him
Speaker 3: as an in the box guy. I think that's where
Speaker 3: he'll flourish. I think he'll be he'll flourish on special
Speaker 3: teams as well.
Speaker 1: A great point about special teams. Last point here. He
Speaker 1: was an effective blitzer last year, Organ, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: That's why I like him in the box, like bringing
Speaker 3: him off the edge. We see from time to time.
Speaker 3: Now Jeff Olbrick doesn't major in blitzing just because our
Speaker 3: defensive line can get after you with just four. But
Speaker 3: when he does blitz, whether it's bringing Quincy william off
Speaker 3: the edge or even White had when he was here,
Speaker 3: sometimes bringing him, you know, through the middle of the
Speaker 3: defense or off the edge like Evan Williams is a
Speaker 3: guy that can come off the edge and get to
Speaker 3: the quarterback.
Speaker 2: All right, Lejay dudesa boll.
Speaker 1: We have some breaking news right now on the podcast.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: You never know when a trade is going to happen,
Speaker 1: and reports are the Jets made their second trade of
Speaker 1: the off season involving twenty twenty four draft picks on Monday,
Speaker 1: sending quarterback Zach Wilson and a seventh round pick number
Speaker 1: two fifty six overall to the Broncos in exchange for
Speaker 1: a sixth.
Speaker 2: Rounder number two three.
Speaker 1: Before we get to two oh three here on the
Speaker 1: mock draft, what are your thoughts of the deal and
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson going back to the Mountain West.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of knew this was coming down the pike.
Speaker 3: EA Zack Wilson, you know, up and down career with
Speaker 3: the Jets, and you assume when the Jets signed Tyrod
Speaker 3: Taylor as the backup quarterback for Aaron Rodgers that there
Speaker 3: was going to be some business that was going to
Speaker 3: be done. You know, Zach Wilson wasn't with the team
Speaker 3: at the start of the offseason program. So I think
Speaker 3: this is a win win honestly for both teams, right,
Speaker 3: because sometimes as a player you just need a fresh start.
Speaker 3: And you talked about it, right, He's going back to
Speaker 3: the Mountain West, closer to his family. You would hope that,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe with Sean Payton they can get the
Speaker 3: best out of his talent. He was the number two
Speaker 3: overall pick and maybe he'll be a little bit more
Speaker 3: comfortable closer to family. So just was Zach Wilson the
Speaker 3: best didn't work out here with the Jets, right, So
Speaker 3: I think this was best needed for both teams, not
Speaker 3: just you know, the Broncos, but as far as Zach
Speaker 3: Wilson and the Jets for him to start a.
Speaker 1: New bottom line, the writing was on the wall as
Speaker 1: soon as the season ended. And also just from the
Speaker 1: perspective of this guy being who's someone who used to
Speaker 1: walk the halls here at one Jets Drive. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you hope that he is able to get his career
Speaker 1: on track in Denver. And sometimes people just need new
Speaker 1: opportunities and a new place to start the career.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yep, perfect example. Geno Smith went through the same
Speaker 3: thing here with the New York Jets, was able to
Speaker 3: go to the Giants and Chargers. Then he found his
Speaker 3: home with the Seattle Seahawks. And look at him now, right,
Speaker 3: pro Bowl quarterback just a year ago, played really well
Speaker 3: last year when he was healthy. Now he's going to
Speaker 3: be a starter for his third year in a row.
Speaker 3: So sometimes you just need a fresh start in a
Speaker 3: new environment and hopefully you can channel some of that
Speaker 3: talent that you had that made you such a high draftic.
Speaker 3: And again, just wishing nothing but the best for Zach
Speaker 3: Wilson as he moves forward with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: Hey, wouldn't it be something if he's the starter when
Speaker 1: the Broncos actually come to the Jets next season.
Speaker 2: We'll have to see it's all unfold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is what's great because if you look at
Speaker 3: it and you look at the current roster, I think
Speaker 3: the biggest thing with Zack. People always wanted him to
Speaker 3: be able to sit behind a veteran and learn what
Speaker 3: if he goes out in Denver and balls ends up
Speaker 3: being a starter because they do have the number twelve pick,
Speaker 3: but I think it's high for a quarterback in this draft,
Speaker 3: depending on who actually falls there, So they could potentially
Speaker 3: maybe try to trade back and get a guy in
Speaker 3: the second round. But either way, like Zacha has a
Speaker 3: good opportunity to kind of rewrite his history in Denver,
Speaker 3: And like you said, wouldn't it be poetic justice? Right
Speaker 3: if Denver Broncos when they come to town, Zack Wilson
Speaker 3: is the starting.
Speaker 2: Quarter Listen, It's possible. It certainly is possible.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking about that Broncos quarterback room right now.
Speaker 1: The most proven guy there, you would say, is Jared Stidham.
Speaker 3: I would say maybe Zach Wilson honestly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, well yeah, well, Wilson definitely has more experience, But
Speaker 1: I don't know as far as like a depth chart
Speaker 1: is concerned, I don't know if right now Sean Payton
Speaker 1: would put Steddham first or.
Speaker 3: Well Stedham would be the starter for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely more experienced, so he gets a
Speaker 1: fresh start. The Jets have two veteran quarterbacks in your
Speaker 1: mock draft. You have already taken that developmental passer from
Speaker 1: Tulane for the New York Jets in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: but you're up to the sixth round with the two
Speaker 1: hundred and third overall selection.
Speaker 2: Now the Jets pick.
Speaker 3: Who offensive tackle Tyland Grable from UCF, A developmental tackle
Speaker 3: that's very athletic. Believe he ran in a sub five
Speaker 3: forty at the combine, so you see the athletic ability.
Speaker 3: There was a Eastern West guy had a really good
Speaker 3: week in the East and West game, and he's a
Speaker 3: guy that with his athletic ability, does a really good
Speaker 3: job of cutting guys off from the backside. The one
Speaker 3: thing that may be concerned he's not the biggest guy.
Speaker 3: Hea He's only about three hundred three hundred and five pounds,
Speaker 3: and sometimes speed the power can be an issue for
Speaker 3: this guy. But has really good footwear right as times up.
Speaker 3: You know, his punch really well on opposing defenders. So
Speaker 3: he's a guy I think it could be really a
Speaker 3: really good developmental guy and maybe even down the stretch
Speaker 3: be a swing guy. For you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you go to school?
Speaker 3: I think he went to the best university in the
Speaker 3: land EA, UCF. This has no bearing on me picking
Speaker 3: him here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: The University of Central Florida, where one Leja Ducible also
Speaker 1: played college football.
Speaker 3: This is correct. This is correct. But again this has
Speaker 3: no bearing because we saw earlier in my draft I
Speaker 3: took Ricky Pirisol in the third round where I could
Speaker 3: have took Javon Baker and I didn't.
Speaker 2: Former college quarterback here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting backstory, and you find a lot of those
Speaker 1: there late in the draft.
Speaker 2: Which leads us to mister.
Speaker 1: Irrelevant number two fifty seven overall.
Speaker 2: Last.
Speaker 1: But no, at least here's the guy who's going to
Speaker 1: have a parade. I think they have this whole big
Speaker 1: set up in Newport, California following the draft, so as
Speaker 1: opposed to signing a priority free agent, and the Jets
Speaker 1: are gonna select who here.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to the great state of West Virginia. No,
Speaker 3: not the University of West Virginia. Ea. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: to Huntington, West Virginia. Marshall their running back Rashen Ali.
Speaker 3: I love this kid's game. He is a guy that
Speaker 3: has a lot of patience behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Is also a really good pass protector and we know
Speaker 3: ea a lot of Rocky struggle when it comes to
Speaker 3: that coming into the league. He's a guy that will
Speaker 3: fit it up there and block blitzing linebackers really well.
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a really good developmental guy. That's
Speaker 3: a chance to make this team on special teams and
Speaker 3: potentially help you out on some third downs with protections.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Dane by Ruler who puts together the
Speaker 1: Beast every year as far as his breakdowns on all
Speaker 1: the college prospects. This guy has an interesting background the
Speaker 1: running back from Marshall, doesn't he because he grew up
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. His dad own and operated a jim His
Speaker 1: production at school off the charts got nine zone a
Speaker 1: lot lejay.
Speaker 2: I think it was fifteen touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1: One thing you want to see him work on at
Speaker 1: the next level ball security, right.
Speaker 3: For sure, And you alluded to some of the great
Speaker 3: things about him. He's a finisher in the red zone.
Speaker 3: He's a tough, physical runner, right, He's gonna get across
Speaker 3: that goal line. But you talked about it. The ball
Speaker 3: security he'd probably be a little bit higher up on
Speaker 3: this draft board if it wasn't for that. He does
Speaker 3: tend to every once in a while lose that ball.
Speaker 3: So that's something that you can hope will be developed
Speaker 3: with coaching, and this is a perfect spot to take
Speaker 3: him as mister irrelevant and hopefully the Justs can develop
Speaker 3: this guy and he could be a really good back
Speaker 3: and also again help you out on special teams.
Speaker 1: All right, so what do you think about Lejay dousables
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four New York Jets draft class. Starting with
Speaker 1: the headliner Troy Fatanu out of Washington with that number
Speaker 1: ten overall selection, you go to Florida and take Ricky
Speaker 1: Pearson with the third round selection, slick Rick Michael Pratt
Speaker 1: developmental quarterback. There in the fourth round, McKai Wingo, defensive
Speaker 1: tackle out of LSU, a really NonStop motor, a guy
Speaker 1: who produced and could come in and you think fit
Speaker 1: in quite well with the Jets loaded defensive line. Evan Williams,
Speaker 1: a hard hitting safety from Oregon who was all over
Speaker 1: the field. You project him as a box safety Grable
Speaker 1: your fellow UC Afflam of course, a guy developmental prospect
Speaker 1: in the sixth round and then finally.
Speaker 2: Rasheen Alie out of Marshall.
Speaker 1: Jets have a top flight running back in Brest Hall.
Speaker 1: We like what we saw out of is he Abana
Speaker 1: Kanda last year, but you could use some depth in
Speaker 1: that office of backfield as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really loved this class. And again just depending
Speaker 3: on the scenario. In this scenario, the top three receivers
Speaker 3: were gone, the top two offensive tackles were gone. I
Speaker 3: could have went to least for Waga, who a lot
Speaker 3: of people say GM Joe Douglas has an infinity for
Speaker 3: but I went with Fatanu just because of the position flexibility.
Speaker 3: I think he can maybe even play center as well.
Speaker 3: I think that's how talented this kid is. And we
Speaker 3: know when the NFL guys get banged up. We got
Speaker 3: two starting tackles. They're in their mid thirties, once coming
Speaker 3: off a torn peg surgery and the other one has
Speaker 3: hasn't had a complete season. I think in the last
Speaker 3: four years. He's missed some time in Tyron Smith. So
Speaker 3: you have Fortana Hugasa in there, and then even at
Speaker 3: guard right Avt has had to deal with some injuries.
Speaker 3: If something were to happen to him for Tonal could
Speaker 3: slide right in at guard and you wouldn't miss a step.
Speaker 1: I like what you did here in terms of positional need,
Speaker 1: because the Jets didn't have glaring needs going into this draft,
Speaker 1: but they pick up an offensive lineman who you really
Speaker 1: like his versatility, then they get a receiver that's a
Speaker 1: group you have to add to. Obviously, after this trade
Speaker 1: of Zach Wilson, you got to get a developmental quarterback
Speaker 1: in the building. And you've been talking about these defensive
Speaker 1: tackles who are going to line up adjacent to Quinn Williams,
Speaker 1: but they're all on short term deals. Then safety, you've
Speaker 1: been talking about depth at deposition for a long time.
Speaker 1: Grabil is an other offensive lineman. Joe Douglas wants to
Speaker 1: continue to add there to the trenches. And we saw
Speaker 1: the Jets play thirteen different offensive line combinations I think
Speaker 1: sixteen offensive linemen in all. And then finally, al Lee
Speaker 1: is a guy who could bet to make this roster
Speaker 1: and potentially help on special teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I like like you said, the positional value
Speaker 3: and where I took guys in regards to needs. Again,
Speaker 3: you would like to get one of the top three receivers,
Speaker 3: but it didn't pan out that way. In this draft scenario,
Speaker 3: you get a really good offensive lineman who has the
Speaker 3: versatility to play multiple positions. And then in the third
Speaker 3: round our guy slick Rick pearsall right, the guy that's
Speaker 3: one of the best slot receivers in this league. Now
Speaker 3: you can't play on the outside as well, but he
Speaker 3: does a lot of his damage in the slot. One
Speaker 3: of the best route runners in this draft, does a
Speaker 3: really good job going up and getting the football as well,
Speaker 3: and does have speed. Even though people question that, I
Speaker 3: believe it ran a four to four one at the combine.
Speaker 3: And I've been saying for the longest that there needs
Speaker 3: to be a defensive tackle that can grow with Quinn Williams.
Speaker 3: And that's why I took Makai Wingo, because if you
Speaker 3: look at everybody else besides Quinn Williams, they're all on
Speaker 3: one of your deals EA. And then with the trade
Speaker 3: to Zach Wilson, you heard GM Joe Douglas said we
Speaker 3: would love to be a quarter factory, So why not
Speaker 3: take a swing out of developmental guy in the forefront
Speaker 3: of Michael Pratt, who I think will fit right in
Speaker 3: with that quarterback Room, a proven leader and winner that
Speaker 3: throws with a lot of touch. You can sit and
Speaker 3: learn behind two really good vets and Tyrod Taylor and
Speaker 3: also Aaron Rodgers. And then the back of the draft,
Speaker 3: we took Evan Williams, who will help you out on
Speaker 3: safety on special teams, but a guy I think eventually
Speaker 3: could be your number three safety in the box safety
Speaker 3: as a great blitzer and a hard hitter and a
Speaker 3: tone center in that secondary. Tylan Grabow developmental tackle. And
Speaker 3: then Rashine Ali will be a developmental running back. So
Speaker 3: I really love this class. Ea, I'm sure you do.
Speaker 2: It's yours, it is my class.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so final thoughts here. We just went
Speaker 1: three year mock draft. But your thoughts on what's going
Speaker 1: ahead with the decisions that are going to be made
Speaker 1: for Joe Douglas and crews gonna happen at the top
Speaker 1: of the draft Thursday night.
Speaker 3: So in talking about exact, not about the Jets, but
Speaker 3: literally what's gonna happen with the draft and how it can.
Speaker 1: You know, impact dudes, bottom line, how's it going to
Speaker 1: impact what the Jets landscape looks like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, looking at the draft, I could see you
Speaker 3: know we are kind of it's almost inevitable that Caleb
Speaker 3: Williams most likely is going number one overall. Look at
Speaker 3: number two, I still think Jay there's a strong belief
Speaker 3: that Jayde and Daniels will go to overall. Just makes
Speaker 3: too much sense with Cliff Kingsbury being the offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: and looking at you know, jayd and Daniels' skill set
Speaker 3: just looks like a perfect marriage for those two guys. Honestly,
Speaker 3: at three, I think is where the draft starts. I
Speaker 3: think the page game trade out of three. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: think they're gonna tray because they just have so many
Speaker 3: holes on their roster right now, why not try to
Speaker 3: trade back and get some more blue chip players because
Speaker 3: the Cobe Brissette is proven he can be a spot
Speaker 3: starter in this league and even win you games. Right So,
Speaker 3: like I think, you know, Comeo to Rob Mayo has
Speaker 3: a lot of faith in Jacoby Brisset, and I believe
Speaker 3: that team does as well. Where they take a filler
Speaker 3: on a quarterback, probably in the second round.
Speaker 2: Are you still circling Minnesota there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Minnesota trades up depending on if they
Speaker 3: have the enough capital to do it. That now they
Speaker 3: do have two first round picks this year. I think
Speaker 3: it would take two first this year and maybe even
Speaker 3: a third to move from eleven to three. And if
Speaker 3: you're the New England Pagers, you try to even get
Speaker 3: three first for them to move up, right, So I
Speaker 3: believe they have the draft capitol to potentially move up
Speaker 3: depending on what they want to do with picks in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Right, But they do have the two
Speaker 3: first round picks this year because of the trade they
Speaker 3: made with the Houston Texans already. So when you look
Speaker 3: at that, I think Minnesota definitely, you know, moves up
Speaker 3: and tries to get their quarterback and I think it'll
Speaker 3: be Drake May at number three. If you just look
Speaker 3: at the history of Drake May, he was coached by
Speaker 3: Josh McCown in high school, who is the current quarterback
Speaker 3: coach for the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1: Would you be surprised if any one other than Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior goes for overall to Arizona.
Speaker 3: No, that's not happening. Marvin Harrison Junior will be the
Speaker 3: number four pick at Arizona.
Speaker 1: So let's get to five car balls starting his program
Speaker 1: there with the Chargers. Are you looking at them as
Speaker 1: a potential team that is going to look to add
Speaker 1: a bunch of assets and maybe potentially gets out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're going to try to trade back
Speaker 3: if they can, just depending on how the first three
Speaker 3: picks go, sat Minnesota isn't able to make a trade
Speaker 3: happen with New England. I think New England actually takes
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison at number three. Then if that's the case,
Speaker 3: just again, because they need so many you know, they
Speaker 3: have so many holes on their roster, why not get
Speaker 3: a blue chip guy. It could be your true number
Speaker 3: one receiver out in New England. So the Chargers I
Speaker 3: think will potentially try to trade out and maybe they's
Speaker 3: a partner with the Minnesota Vikings. If New England can't
Speaker 3: trade out, I think Arizona would be crazy to trade out.
Speaker 3: If Marvin Harrison Junior is there, why not pair him
Speaker 3: with Kylin Murray And I Murray has a true number
Speaker 3: one because they lost their number one into receiver this offseason,
Speaker 3: So Michael Wilson is a nice young player, So I
Speaker 3: think Martin Harrison goes for Depending on what happens with
Speaker 3: the third pick, I think the Chargers either take Mylaitue
Speaker 3: Neighbors or Joe All or trade out.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's end here Joe Douglas, At what point
Speaker 1: does he make a couple of calls? And we've done
Speaker 1: multiple segments on this over the last few weeks, at
Speaker 1: what point do you make a call to go up?
Speaker 2: And at what point are you seriously considering moving back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when you get to pick seven, right, you
Speaker 3: would assume that depending on if the Chargers take Joe
Speaker 3: All or my league neighbors, if they don't take one
Speaker 3: of those two guys, the Titans are going to take
Speaker 3: one of those guys. Where I think we're kind of
Speaker 3: assuming at this point, because Joe Shane and Brian Dabel
Speaker 3: haven't been able to pick a quarterback of their own
Speaker 3: for the future, you would assume at number six, if
Speaker 3: they don't try to trade up, they're going to pick
Speaker 3: a quarterback at that spot. Right. I know a lot
Speaker 3: of Giants fans will not love to hear that, but
Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know how football minds think. Every
Speaker 3: GM and every head coach want to be attached to
Speaker 3: a quarterback of their picking. Well, they haven't been allotted
Speaker 3: that favorite because Daniel Jones was already there when both
Speaker 3: of those guys got there. So when you get to
Speaker 3: seven again, if Joe All is there. If he's not,
Speaker 3: then you take oulu fashionu right, and then that's when
Speaker 3: if you're the Jets, that's when you call up now
Speaker 3: again in this scenario, if the Chargers decide to go
Speaker 3: offensive tackle instead of receiver, now you're potentially looking at
Speaker 3: two of the top three receivers still there at pig eight.
Speaker 3: So if you're the Jets, you're sitting pretty right there, right,
Speaker 3: You're sitting pretty pretty The only thing is you worry
Speaker 3: about another team trying to call and jump you. That's
Speaker 3: the issue at the Jets have. So even regardless of
Speaker 3: if there is two receivers still there in the top ten,
Speaker 3: I still would call it of falcons and see because
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people assume they're going to
Speaker 3: take the first defensive player off the board, which would
Speaker 3: be Dallas Turner where they feel comfortable, you know, coming
Speaker 3: back just two spots, maybe giving up a fourth to
Speaker 3: the six round pick to move back two spots to
Speaker 3: still take their guy and have the Jets move up.
Speaker 3: But eight, I think that's where it happens.
Speaker 2: So you're circling number eight.
Speaker 1: Conversely, I don't think the Jets actually do have a
Speaker 1: bad scenario. But what's the worst scenario where if you're
Speaker 1: Joe Dee, like, hey, I'm really looking to collect another two,
Speaker 1: I want more assets here? What happens at the top
Speaker 1: where you're seriously looking for a dance partner to get
Speaker 1: out of there?
Speaker 3: Well, this could be the worst case scenario here, say
Speaker 3: the top two tackles, Well, the scenario that I played
Speaker 3: for us, right, the top two tackles are gone, the
Speaker 3: top three receivers are gone. So at ten, who is
Speaker 3: going to be aggressive enough to move up for tackles
Speaker 3: when this is a deep tackle class. And if you're
Speaker 3: saying that fashion New and are the two blue chip
Speaker 3: left tackles, even though Waga and fot New are really
Speaker 3: good and so were Tyler Guyan and Maarus Mems, well
Speaker 3: you may feel like one of those dudes are gonna
Speaker 3: fall to you. Do I need to give up draft
Speaker 3: capital to move up? That's the only issue. And that's
Speaker 3: why I did that exercise in our draft, right, because
Speaker 3: that was that's literally the scenario the Jets could be
Speaker 3: in where you most likely it's better for you to
Speaker 3: just pick at ten because who's gonna truly want to
Speaker 3: move up if a lot of those tackles. Guys usually
Speaker 3: only move up for quarterbacks or offensive tackles right or
Speaker 3: top tier receivers. But if the top receivers are gone
Speaker 3: and this is a deep offensive tackle class and say
Speaker 3: fashion New at all is only are only like three
Speaker 3: or four spots from Fuaga fought New or you know,
Speaker 3: Memes or Tyler Guyan, then if you're a team, you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm not training up. One of those guys are gonna
Speaker 3: fall to me. So that could be a scenario. The
Speaker 3: Jets are in now you try to see if somebody
Speaker 3: wants to, you know, move up for you know who
Speaker 3: knows Brian Thomas. I don't see somebody moving up to
Speaker 3: number ten for him, even though he's a really good player.
Speaker 3: But unless somebody like really loves for Wagga, that would
Speaker 3: be the only scenario. But we know, we've heard that
Speaker 3: Joe d has the fut you know, affinity for for Woga,
Speaker 3: So I don't know if he just doesn't turn that
Speaker 3: card in himself.
Speaker 2: Well, the weight it's almost over, it's here, the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four NFL Draft. Is it finally upon us?
Speaker 1: Hey, dude, it's been so much fun preview in the
Speaker 1: draft over the last few weeks. We're gonna break it
Speaker 1: down all next week. Why don't you tell folks where
Speaker 1: they can find you over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'll be on CBS Sports Network this whole
Speaker 3: week and throughout the weekend and CBS Sports HQ breaking down,
Speaker 3: you know, different draft scenarios and during the draft breaking
Speaker 3: down picks from everybody. So it's gonna be a fun
Speaker 3: weekend again. He ate. So many players work their whole
Speaker 3: life and their dreams were finally coming true. So it's
Speaker 3: always a special time of year.
Speaker 1: Special time of year, great analysis. We will talk to
Speaker 1: you next week, brother.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, appreciate it. Yeah,