WEBVTT - Knicks HUGE Game 1 Comeback, KG’s Untold Wemby Summer & Duren Super Max? | TICKET & THE TRUTH 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.320 Let's get into it. Man. Take it the truth. Man, 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:04.439 Let's get it man. It's a lot to talk. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:19.279 About certain fascon CERTFIC certified, certain fasting, CERTAFIC, certain facing certain. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:28.120 It's a green summer. Yeah, we built differently. You ain't 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.600 watching the games like I'm watch them again. You're outside, 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.479 We're alive, fluid. That's when you stop the production that 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.120 we go back and. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:36.800 We want. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.400 Boy. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.600 You see the boy go for forty in the dub 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:47.680 Man women went for forty and twenty and three blocks 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:49.199 in the Western Conference. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:52.480 You give me your thoughts on it, bro, real ship, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:53.240 I know you hear me. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.040 There was He was like, man, ain't never that didn't 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.480 make the necessary adjustments. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:00:59.400 But I don't understand. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.080 Okay, see, didn't make the necessary adjustments you got in 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:03.640 real time. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:04.160 You're talking. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.120 Yeah, but I'm like, you got Caruso for the majority 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.560 of the time, garden him, and you got Jay Dubb 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.120 garden him, all these small guys guarding them, and I'm like, damn, 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.000 you got a runner up to defensive player of the 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.120 Year over here not matching up. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.800 Like I'm trying to figure out that, laying out what 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.959 you mean, check by check your garden. It should be 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.440 matched up. 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.440 And I understand that he played a lot on the perimeter, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.160 so you want quicker guards. But at the end of 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.840 the day, he don't see them. He's he's just pulling 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.560 enough shooting. Then he going to the post. He just 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.920 over the top. It's just like no resistance. And at 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.720 some point you gotta just be like, man up. I mean, 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:48.160 you gotta you gotta put your guy, man up. I 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:49.880 don't put this on chat. And I heard, you know, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.360 some sports talk shows in the in the morning talking 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.440 about shit got killed. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.120 No, he didn't. He didn't guard him. He didn't get 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:55.560 him at all. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.120 He didn't he was in the one on one situation 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.240 would guard him. He didn't get the opportunities at this 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.480 my man. And let's see for the most part, so 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.280 a lot of those buckets that he was getting was 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.640 on uh they perimeter players who matched up, so they 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:10.600 got to make adjustment. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:16.399 P felt like OKAC was respecting Wemby's agility so much. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.080 Did they put a guard on. They started with lou 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:18.920 dor corner. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:19.160 Right, Yeah. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.960 Then they had bigs contest Winby at the rim, and 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.000 these time they contest at the rim because they got 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:26.919 to play a corner guy. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.320 They relate. So Winby is getting dunks, layups, alley oops. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.079 Once they throw it in the air, it's only what 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.760 Hargenstein and and and in Check that can probably contest 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.240 that right. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.640 Nobody else can get that right. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.160 One time, y'all see the love Way Castle through it. It 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.760 was all above the box. Winby went up there and 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.079 got that. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.400 Bit's two hens easily, not one hand. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:52.440 So I think if you okay See, I heard that 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.920 same thing on Check. I didn't think Check. I didn't 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.480 see them one on one. Obviously I saw them at 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.800 the baskets and stuff like that. But if I'm okc man, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.559 it seemed like, okay see, changed. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.520 What they doing for Wmby versus doing what they do. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.200 You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.440 remember doctor should saying this. No, we're gonna do what 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:12.800 we're doing. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.680 We're not gonna make an adjustment. We're gonna have them 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.240 adjusted to us. It seemed like, okay See made the 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:21.520 adjustment to the spurs versus the other way around. And 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:26.320 this is respect. I think you go back to traditional basketball. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.880 You put a fible Hartenstein and Check can slide with him. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:30.079 Bro. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.200 So when he go into all his bagging candy. Bro 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.640 they can there, they can slide with that. Is he 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:40.080 gonna make some shots? P Yeah, but overall, man, you 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.440 make him make tough shots. Bro Winby is beating everybody 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.840 with the A move. He ain't went to a C yet. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.880 And if I'm him, I keep it A until they 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.840 put somebody with some length on me. I'm gonna keep 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:51.280 it A man. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.080 I think the problem is uh. The reason they took 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:00.480 chatting uh uh. Hargstein and Hartenstein often was the problem 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.560 with the pick and roll, because well. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.360 You're not switching it, so we're back to tradition, so 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:06.520 they can switch it now. 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.760 They was like it was getting burned on penetration and 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.680 driving kicks because the big man was sitting sitting in 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.440 the paint and they picking rolls. So they went to 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.040 the switch saying, all right, we don't want to get 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.920 burned going downhill. And they said we're just gonna fight 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.680 with our scrappers, our little scrappers and lou door. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.440 It ain't working. Ok. If he's playing the corner, he's sticked. Lord. 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.359 If you shooting a shot at that two elbows the 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.960 free throw line on anywhere in the paint, winim, he's 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:37.120 gonna block it. 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.120 It's just what it is. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.680 Bro. He was in the he was at the box 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.200 and was contesting everything at the rim and three pointers. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.160 So I'm just like, at this point, what's the solution? 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.280 And you know what, you gotta have p You gotta 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.200 have a game plan, but you gotta have an end 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.680 game kind of a direct plays. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.160 That you know with a B and C playing. You 0:04:59.200 --> 0:04:59.640 know what I'm saying. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.640 I'm talking, I'm a real time coaching. You gotta have Okay, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.440 this is our playing here. If we get in this 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.559 situation here, this is what we're gonna do, it's gotta 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.279 be some I didn't think they made game time decisions. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.440 I didn't think they made game time adjustments quick enough. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:16.520 And I thought that adjustments they made didn't impact the game. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.760 You just put a smaller quicker. You went from dork 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.039 Tokuso Cuso to. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.479 Douve like like I see in the Guard Guard world 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:25.200 where that works. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.640 But in the in the big world, that man, everybody, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:34.039 everybody that's six eleven seven foot is going to dominate that. Yeah, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.800 you know what I'm saying, just because you're gonna have 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.240 a mismatch every time. If y'all switching. Then now it's 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.080 not even smaller guard on him. Man, wait to Windy 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:45.120 gets stronger, tim O pounds and he catches it like 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.080 Pete takes his takes his time, and now everybody clear 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.280 out one dribble either to the ram or it's a 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.120 fizy like you see what I'm saying. They're gonna have 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.800 to trap him and we're gonna have to go back 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.000 to guys like the cell. Okay, you got what are 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.360 you gonna have to give? What are you gonna give up? 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.680 I mean they knocking down everybody's lip pee. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.880 You got Harpring coming in here getting seven steals, seven steals, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.760 seven steels is like twenty rebounds my dog. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.240 Especially what happens on the other end with yeah. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.800 Rookie and you're a rookie, bro. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.320 He he is not in traditional form. Harpring is not 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.640 supposed to be doing none of this. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.320 So get this, guys. I look this up. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.080 It's the youngest starting five ever in the NBA playoffs. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:27.960 Harper's twenty castles twenty one. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:29.119 In the Conference Final. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.400 Listen to this hold on Penny's twenty four and Wenby's twenty. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.520 I gotta give p his dude, p said some shit 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.360 last night. Case we watched the game night, go ahead, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.680 Pee hit it. What you said about day three. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.520 Thing about it is the top three players on their 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.640 team from game one. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.680 It's all in their rookie contract. Yeah, that's crazy. Never 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.280 seen them. Your three headed monster is in a rookie contract. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.160 Your highest paid player was hurt in game one. Two 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.720 and Darren Fox fifty million sitting on the bench. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.680 Yeah. Wow, just gonna be a team, good team for 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.039 a very long time. Oh, they should be. They should be. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:04.960 They should be. 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:06.839 And the reason why they are good like this is 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.560 because of their depth. Vasale is growing up in front 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.880 of us, Castle is growing up in front of us, 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.240 Harper is growing up in front of us. Winby is 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:18.480 getting All of them are getting better at a similar rate. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.560 You know what I'm saying, both on both sides of 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:21.720 the ball. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.800 I just even sall have this type of defensive energy 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.120 like I'm watching him now, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.480 this whole Yeah, we look at it, and you know 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:31.080 it's crazy. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.080 The Spurs have confidence. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.880 One of the hardest things are more and the more 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.920 underrated things in our league is confidence. When the player 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.800 has confidence, so I don't care what it is. They 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.520 can do amazing things as we're seeing. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:45.640 So curious with you guys. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.680 Usually historically we see younger teams kind of get eliminated 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.760 from the playoffs earlier because they don't have the experience. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.480 But in the last couple of years, we've seen teams 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.520 like okay, see the Spurs, teams like that kind of 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.320 get deep. Yeah, Minnesota has been Conference finals the previous 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:01.960 two years. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.240 Why do you think that is nowadays? 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:09.160 Because the older stars are getting old now. Yeah. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.320 I mean when you look at the old stars of 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:16.880 Steph Curry, Lebron's teams, KDSE teams, they getting older, and 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.840 it's this this new way, this young it is, it's here, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.960 and you know, it's the it's almost like we're I 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.680 mean it's not almost as we are. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.360 It's a new error. It's a new eraror in it. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:29.800 This is. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.240 Two or three years and I feel like we're fully 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:33.640 here now. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:34.920 Yeah, we're fully here now. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:39.920 I mean it's like the young teams like Minnesota, Denver, Okay, see, 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.040 you know, even Boston is like a tier above young, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.000 but they're still young, you know. So it's just like 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.520 a new era. We're ushered in and it's officially here 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.160 and so and the new era is pushing the lump. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.000 You gotta build to me to like, you gotta look at, say, Okay, 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.600 whose are the top teams. We gotta build like that now. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.640 So when you look at Okay, see like, oh, they 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:04.160 got the stretch forward, defensive player, you know, the center, 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.719 they got the guard who's score. Now, San Antonio is 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.280 kind of built similar to them, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.199 And these are two championship caliber teams. And so when 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.040 you're building your team now, you gotta have some young 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.120 athletes at the wing who can shoot, and you got 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.040 to have a big man who can put the ball 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.440 on the floor and knock down shots. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:22.280 Same with New York. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.600 They got a big man who can put the ball 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.640 on the ground, and they got one that grind And 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.280 that's what was missing from Detroit and that's why they're 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.800 not advancing in Orlando's of the world, and that's why 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.520 they're not advancing Cleveland. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.480 They got a guy and. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.520 Mobiley, but you know, he's still growing as a player 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.600 on being consistent, not in night out. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.800 And ticket for you specifically, we just look at Wemby 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.839 his first playoffs, Like, how are you grading this? 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:48.320 How are you. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.080 Assessing this for a twenty two year old at this 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:51.760 point and where he is today? 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.400 Well, if you look at Wemby's experience, man, Wemby's played 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:58.920 a lot of basketball and a lot of different scenarios internationally, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.920 you know, obviously on soil here. And I just think 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.960 that it was almost like when we was watching young 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.160 stars emerged. When you was watching, you know, a young Kde, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.559 you knew you was watching something special. When you was 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.000 watching a young Bron. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:14.240 I can go. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.280 I I mean I can Seeing d Wade in college, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.080 I was like, oh no, he gonna be nice. Just 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.640 how you know Baron Davis, you know, I can go 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.920 on the list and listen when you see special talent 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.520 and he's just it's like he said, Man, we're in 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.480 this new this new lens, and what's really making it really, 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.080 I guess, jump off the page. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.679 Just it's the performances. Man, we haven't seen. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.040 A forty and twenty fuck of forty and twenty almost 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.280 a forty and twenty five. You understand what I'm saying, Like, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.559 we ain't seeing that. We ain't see nobody get twelve blocks, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.280 and if we did, we didn't see him get it 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.840 like this, Like he not blocking like hooks and and fadeaways. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:58.240 He blocking threes, he blocking floaters. He Lord, he's a fact. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.840 He is. He's I'm trying to think like GP. I'm 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:02.760 trying to think like Ben. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.640 I'm trying to think of the last defensive player that 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.160 affected the game like this, maybe Ridman where you can 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.800 put worm on like Bird and then you can put 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.600 him on magic and then you put him on Pipping 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.080 and then he was on something. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:15.679 You know what I'm saying. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:17.920 The one thing I want to add to what Pe 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.480 said is all that he said, but you gotta have 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.240 some dogs. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.600 Castle is a red nose pit. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.160 He so everybody that's from the hood where feel me 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.600 on this Nate in every hood. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.600 It's a mean ass dog in the hood. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.520 That will bite you. And everybody know it. We used 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.080 to call him King Caine. Everybody know what I'm talking about. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.680 Castle is like Cane in the neighborhood. He the little 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.959 white pit that's walking around in everybody's garbage and then 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.280 all of a sudden he'll chase your ass. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.280 You know what I'm saying. He off the lease, bro. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:55.720 You know what I'm talking about. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:00.240 You gotta have some grit winb fees off of so 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:05.920 Viseelle in Harper because they you know, they soil. They 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.000 play with that. That fucked you that. I'm telling you 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.680 he feeding off that. And then I didn't see Sweet 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.240 Lou back then. I didn't see Rashaw Lewis back there. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:20.600 And yeah, I'm understanding now why he playing with a 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.319 certain type ofth because you got to have a certain 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.440 type of health when you're going up against the champs 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.440 like this. They are they are going into Oka, see 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.880 totally dis they don't have no respect for OKC. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.800 You usually get a young team coming and playing the champs. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:34.360 They're like yeah. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.079 And then he got the award in front of the 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:41.319 boy Lee know what they're doing. You heard what he said, 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.360 I like you you heard what he said? Hey man, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.920 I felt like you feel me like, hey, that was mine? 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.000 Like he I'm telling you that smoke is real. And 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.880 then he played with that under control like ah man, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.200 So yeah, you know what, Okay, he gonna have to 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.439 get some some respectiveness. You know, at some point we're 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.120 gonna have to get some respect from y'all. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.680 You know what I don't understand and I'm trying to 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.440 put my finger on like, how are these guys like 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.480 not it's not one or two of them, It's like 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.880 all of them are mature beyond their years. They're not 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.120 supposed to be here, They're not supposed to look like 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.960 this right now. You know, if I just if you, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.200 just if I just turned on the TV and this 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.160 was my first time watching the Spurs and you'd be like, 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.240 what year you think the point guard? Then he probably 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.120 like in the sixth seventh year. What about that kid 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.640 over there, Harper year? Probably about the fifth, sixth, you 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:36.960 know around there? I think they they just one, two 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.000 and three years as they stars, is what I'm saying. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.280 And you're in the biggest Every game you've played in 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.480 the playoffs has been your biggest game of your life, 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.040 every single one of them. And I haven't seen them 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.440 get rattled. I haven't seen them like it's just so. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.560 I mean, you know, you have the little turnovers. I mean, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.040 Casule had his turnovers, but it's like they just when 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.000 you look like man as a competitor. Me, when I 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.640 went to the playoffs, I could see in somebody's face 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.040 that they are scared of the moment, Like I knew it. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.320 Like you look right at him. I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:07.360 he ain't. You know what I'm talking about. You don't 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:08.120 want he he ain't. 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.640 He ain't. You don't want the ball now? 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.600 And when I look at these guys, I'm like, man, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.400 they they embrace in the moment. But the one underrated 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.520 thing is the culture that they built, Miss Johnson. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.120 And the other thing that people don't. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.480 Talk about is Papa is still there in a way. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.280 He ain't still on the phone, That's what I'm saying. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:28.080 Definitely talking. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.720 And that's when we ain't brought up a lot. Papovich 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.920 is still He probably got them practices. He is some 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.400 type of Yeah, he has an influence on what all 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.040 of this picture that we're seeing players and how their producer. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.800 He has an influence on. Absolutely. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:50.280 They got the picture of him and uh no wombying 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.960 Papovich after one of the playoff games talking to I 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:53.280 don't know. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.400 If it was after he had got after dat. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.440 Yeah, they talked right right there, Papovich right there talking. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.200 I got to flick him after the game or something. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.000 I'm like, okay, he's still in that ear. He still 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.240 got influence over there. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.440 Le ship right now. Yeah, That's what I say. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.520 Yesterday they got Yoda over there. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:15.040 That's like talking about Yo. He knows, he knows too, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.840 he got a path, he knows how to get to 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:17.440 the finals. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.440 Listen, I'm looking at a lot of stuff is being 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.280 brought up on whim. He's maturity and not. I mean, 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.960 it does get talked about, but not enough. You know, 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.800 we always bring up the fact that you know, he 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.560 went and saw the Monks. I heard him talk about 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.160 that on TV, you know, and what he did with them. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.360 But like, what was your experience with your time that 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.000 you spent with him? Uh this summer? You know, what 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.600 was that conversation? Like what was this He's sitting down, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.520 like what was that right there when y'all talked about 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:47.520 what was that conversation? 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.520 So I gotta, I gotta request to pull up on 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.000 his workout. And uh, when I got there, he was 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.280 already doing with his workout. So you see me pulling 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.520 up on him. I'm funny about people having my number 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.240 and shit, you know what I'm saying, I don't fuck 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.880 with everybody like that, and I don't. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.840 Yeah, I'm a different thude man, So I don't be 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.040 thinking that I fit with. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.560 Everybody so I respect everybody and how they present themselves. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.600 And so I was kind of like, you know, because 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.640 you know my time, you know, and what I'm what 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.440 I'm doing is everything, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:19.800 So I had enough. 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.120 I really felt like this is my opportunity to be 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.040 aby exchange with ing and I'm a fan of Young Fella. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.040 And then it was like Giannis, Jiannis and I when 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.080 we played used to have energy. I ain't gonna say 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:34.880 it was beef and them, but you can feel with 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.360 somebody like. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:37.720 I was like, what the young boll on? You know 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:38.280 what I'm saying. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.680 So when Jason Kidd called me to come up there 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.800 and work, when I was kind of shocks right, but 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.720 it felt like this. So when I pull up, man, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.800 he chilling, and I'm like, I ain't never met win 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:51.480 me in my life. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:51.800 I don't. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.960 I don't know if he understands, you know, I don't 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.800 know if he know you know anything about me or 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.760 what he knows or what the next you know, it's 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.080 San Antonio. Motherfuckers hate me down there. I'm talking about hate. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.680 I don't knowbody, I'm the villain. Villain down there, you 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.200 know what I mean. So I wanted to expecting nothing positive. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.320 If I'm being honest, I thought, you know, they paint 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.000 you to be, you know. But when I sat down 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.600 with him, man, he's super smart, p super smart, super 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.600 super intail. He doesn't answer anything fast. He thinks about 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.360 everything that you're saying. And then it came a point 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.960 where we was talking basketball. I didn't get the train. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.359 I didn't get to get him on the court. He 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.199 was working out on a football field doing some agility 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.560 work that coming from the gym, and then he had 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.639 a whole day and then we just talked on some 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.800 mentor on some big bro shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.359 And then as I was talking to him p I 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.040 was talking to him through something. You know how I 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.800 get when I get with certain shit, because he was 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.520 asking about you know, you know, like what am I 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.879 looking at when I'm when I'm attacking, And so I 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.919 take him through all this process. When two basketball players 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.480 talk basketball, you'll see the room kind of fade out, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.560 and those two were probably going to like, you know 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.920 what I'm talking about, Pete, we went into that ram lord. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:12.440