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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that is once

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Speaker 1: again coming to you from Indianapolis, which is like the

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Speaker 1: Vegas of Indiana for lack of a better way of

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Speaker 1: putting it. The NFL Scouting Combine is here and it officially,

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Speaker 1: get this, It officially starts today. We've been here since Monday,

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Speaker 1: but that's how it goes because the workouts are kicking

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Speaker 1: in even though the interviews have already been going on

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Speaker 1: with the players and the teams, and we've been interviewing

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Speaker 1: players in a different way, not players, but people, people

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Speaker 1: like coaches and gms and media folks. And we're going

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Speaker 1: to kick off the show with Greg Cosell of NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: dig into his thoughts on CJ. Stroud, other current NFL

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and prospective quarterbacks and other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Also Chris Rose.

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Speaker 1: You know him from NFL Network formerly of MLB Network,

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Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other things. Drew Doherty's going

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Speaker 1: to catch up with him, and he's a big Browns

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Speaker 1: fan as well. He has a lot of thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Later on in the program, we'll dig in

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Speaker 1: deep to the AFC South with Frank Frangie, voice of

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Talk about the Jags, the division, all

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Speaker 1: of it, and among the many teams the Texans are

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Speaker 1: playing and traveling too this year the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Mike do So from Patriots dot Com Wait till you

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Speaker 1: hear what he has to say about how the building

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Speaker 1: has changed in the post Belichick era so far.

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Speaker 2: But let's kick it.

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Speaker 1: Off with our buddy from NFL Films, Greg co Sell

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Speaker 1: the annual visit.

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Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. Greg.

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Speaker 3: How's it going doing great?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 3: How you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: We're doing well. We had our conversation last year. I

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Speaker 1: know we talked about CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud. I feel like pulling up the audio a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm vaguely familiar right for us, But you know, we

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Speaker 1: got to start, Derek, Greg, your thoughts on what you

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love CJ. Stroud, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: and again that's that's a film thing. I happen to

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Speaker 5: know the kid too. I love the kid, but I

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Speaker 5: just love the way he plays quarterback. Like to me,

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Speaker 5: and maybe it's old. You know, people would tell me

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Speaker 5: himnosaur and it's old. School, you know, because he doesn't

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Speaker 5: But to me, he plays the position, you know, the

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Speaker 5: right way, the way that I think leads to prolonged

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Speaker 5: success in the league. You know, it's funny. I remember,

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Speaker 5: I think it might have been against the Colts. Did

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Speaker 5: you play the Colts week two? Yes, it's correct. I

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Speaker 5: remember seeing a play. It's funny how this stuff pops

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Speaker 5: just seeing a play week two where he threw a

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Speaker 5: you know, where you have to throw with great anticipation.

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Speaker 5: You have to understand the defense. Okay, and I think

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Speaker 5: the defense had late rotation. It might have been late

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Speaker 5: remember what you're talking about. It is exactly right, and

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Speaker 5: it was incredible and he made this throw. And I'm

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Speaker 5: saying to myself, you know, that's NFL quarterbacking that you

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Speaker 5: can't teach that. You can work at it on the iPad,

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Speaker 5: you can work on it on the board, you can

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Speaker 5: go out and walk through it in practice, but when

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Speaker 5: know what, that's high level quarterbacking right there. And that's

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Speaker 5: the way he played most of the season. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just and his accuracy, his ball location is just

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Speaker 6: Coach or Greg, when you were going through this last

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Speaker 3: Because he did in Houston.

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Speaker 6: It was basically at the time, it was Bryce or nothing,

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Speaker 6: But at this point last year, what do you remember

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Speaker 5: In your one I would say he exceeded, although I

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Speaker 5: you knows. As much as you love Bryce Young, and

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Speaker 5: there's nothing not to like about Bryce Young as a person,

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself, one hundred and sixty nine pounds,

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Speaker 5: Weighed in here at two oh four, but that's not

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Speaker 5: his normal weight. Yeah, you know, so you know CJ

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Speaker 5: The other thing he does really really well, and I

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Speaker 5: don't I think you can talk about this. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure you can teach it is he can tempo his throws.

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Speaker 5: I really did. I mean the fact that he threw

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Speaker 5: time throw and not everybody's turning that loose, right, Absolutely, Grek.

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Speaker 1: Go seal NFL films with us on Texans Radio. All

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Speaker 1: right in our division, Anthony Richardson, he lives there too.

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Speaker 1: With the Indianapolis Colts, got hurt, showed some things early,

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Speaker 1: especially running. But what do you think moving forward here?

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Speaker 4: Greg?

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, you're dealing with a guy that obviously

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Speaker 5: terms of athletic traits with size, which is a trait,

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Speaker 5: you know. So he was a little better than I

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Speaker 4: Going to run a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's not going to see it as well.

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Speaker 5: Although I think Shane Stikeen does a great job of,

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Speaker 5: you know, just like he did with Hurts, of basically

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Speaker 5: He'll have good moments, bad moments, but the running element

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Speaker 5: he's a big dude. I mean, you could argue that

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Speaker 5: the two most physically gifted quarterbacks in the NFL or

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen and Anthony Richardson, and then you know, which

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Speaker 5: is not the same. I hope people understand as saying

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Speaker 5: they're the best quarterbacks in the league. We're just talking

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Speaker 5: about physical athletic traits.

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Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 6: And a guy that's got some physical athletic traits and

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Speaker 6: some toughness. We talked a little bit about on the air,

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Speaker 6: also know that I don't want to say he's playing

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts about Will Levis.

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Speaker 5: he's got that compact delivery. Super tough mentally and physically apparently,

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Speaker 5: lot of people aren't aware of this. He had two injuries.

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Speaker 5: He was actually told by the medical Department of Kentucky

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Speaker 5: it's my last year.

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Speaker 3: I'm playing.

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Speaker 4: And wow.

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Speaker 5: And this coach told me that they had a scrap

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Speaker 3: So I like, Will Levis.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think I know you had coach mac

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Speaker 5: about Will Levis, but you know, before I came on,

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Speaker 5: we were talking. I think he will have some plays

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Speaker 5: where you scratch your head. Yep, I think he'll have it.

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Speaker 5: As he's learning, he's going to have those plays. He's

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Speaker 5: so confident in his ability. He stands in the pocket

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Speaker 3: He'll have to figure that out.

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Speaker 5: But I'd rather a guy do that then leave the

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Speaker 3: You know, That's something Stroud never does.

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Speaker 5: Stroud lets the offense work for him. He never prematurely

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Speaker 5: Guys don't have great games every week. Everybody's gonna study

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Speaker 5: He is a fascinating conversation that leads to a larger

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Speaker 5: Where do you fall on that? Some coaches, you know,

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Speaker 5: So obviously he's a highly talented player. No one's gonna

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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, thanks a lot for joining us. We

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Speaker 1: Greg Cotell of NFL Films Now Chris Rose, NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: I love that Sunday night highlight show. Yeah, I still

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Speaker 7: All right, you recognize this guy, you recognize his voice.

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Speaker 7: Chris Rose, NFL Network. Also longtime fan of best Damn.

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Speaker 7: So you're the one we found you at away. All right,

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Speaker 7: let's start with this. The next step forward for the

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Speaker 8: Of all, you know him from Cleveland, Ohio, and now

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Speaker 7: Hey, you guys ruined Christmas for us, So it's kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's not even. That's not even.

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Speaker 8: I will gladly take a big lump of coal on

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Speaker 8: You've got your coach, and you got your quarterback and

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Speaker 8: But usually a rookie quarterback is gonna make a couple

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Speaker 4: Like what was that? You got almost none of that.

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Speaker 8: The Tank Dell injury was a crusher. I love that kid.

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Speaker 8: the goal line. Anytime soon killed my son's fantasy season.

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Speaker 8: Don't worry. We've moved on in the Rose household. You know, defense,

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Speaker 7: You can compare him to a former quarterback, but you

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Speaker 8: I'll stay in my lane here with NFL? And he

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Speaker 8: Burrow I think probably took more chances. His team wasn't

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Speaker 7: Chris Rose of the NFL Network at the Combine in Indianapolis, Chris,

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Speaker 7: let's talk sliders. Draft some of the great players that

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Speaker 8: Well that's where I think that's where that run is

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Speaker 8: I think that would be fun for you guys. I

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Speaker 8: You're praying because you want him. You want other teams

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Speaker 8: in that thing until the last game where y all

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Speaker 8: took care of them.

438
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Speaker 4: So it's really really good.

439
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Speaker 8: But they're not pulling away from that division just because

440
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Speaker 8: of all the other young quarterbacks that are there. Pretty

441
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Speaker 8: solid organizations in my opinion.

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Speaker 7: Chris, it's awesome talking with you. Appreciate the insight. Thanks

443
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Speaker 7: so much for the time.

444
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I didn't get one apology for the playoff loss,

445
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Speaker 8: not one.

446
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 7: Not one. You're not gonna get it.

447
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Speaker 4: Ever, it's okay.

448
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Speaker 8: I understand because if the roles were reversed and I

449
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Speaker 8: were asking you the questions, I wouldn't apologize either.

450
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Speaker 4: It was a good game.

451
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Speaker 8: I was happy for you guys, not really, but it's okay, and.

452
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Speaker 7: That's the beauty of sports. We can hate each other's teams, but.

453
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Speaker 8: I do have it I do have a little affinity

454
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Speaker 8: for your club because Nick Cassari and I went to

455
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Speaker 8: the same high school.

456
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Speaker 7: Is that right?

457
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Speaker 3: It's true in.

458
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Speaker 4: Cleveland, Ohio.

459
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Speaker 7: How far apart were you?

460
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Speaker 4: I'm a lot older, Okay, okay, I know.

461
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Speaker 7: Yeah, what a story for a great quarterback in college.

462
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Speaker 8: I know right down the road at John Carroll did

463
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Speaker 8: his business.

464
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Speaker 7: Good Jesuit school. All right, well, Chris, thanks for the time.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely fun to hear Drew and Chris Rose converse. And

466
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Speaker 1: speaking of conversing, we will do that with Frank Frangie,

467
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Speaker 1: voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, will get into the jag

468
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Speaker 1: situation as they melted down towards the end.

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Speaker 3: Of the year.

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Speaker 1: But what are the prospects like for twenty twenty four

471
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Speaker 1: and Frank's thoughts on the rest of the division as well.

472
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Speaker 1: At the NFL at large, it's coming up. It's Texans

473
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Speaker 1: Radio keeping it going here from the NFL Scouting Combine

474
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you. We

475
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Speaker 1: talk a lot of AFC South on the show, of course,

476
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Speaker 1: and there's no better way to do that than to

477
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Speaker 1: get in touch with the voices of the AFC South

478
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Speaker 1: actually there might be equivalent or slightly better ways, but

479
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Speaker 1: we haven't found them. And Frank Frajie is one of

480
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Speaker 1: those voices. Jacksonville Jaguars play by play for a long

481
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Speaker 1: time and a sports talk show host in North Florida

482
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Speaker 1: with a lot of thoughts on college football's well well

483
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Speaker 1: covers the Gators among others very closely. So we visit

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Speaker 1: with Frank Franchie on Radio Row. Frank, it's always great

485
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Speaker 1: to catch up and see in person with a non

486
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Speaker 1: game day stress situation here.

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Speaker 9: Great to see you and Johnny. I love catching up

488
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Speaker 9: with you boys, and I kind of like it here.

489
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Speaker 9: It's other than the fact that it's thirty three degrees

490
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 9: real pill twenty three and I might be the greatest

491
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Speaker 9: cold weather wimp ever. I got more Guiden dang layers on.

492
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Speaker 9: I got them off the top and up bottom and everything.

493
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Speaker 9: So but always great to see you, fellas.

494
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Speaker 2: Yesterday was nice here.

495
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Speaker 4: Seventy five was to high. Yesterday was a tease.

496
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Speaker 6: It was good and then all of a sudden this

497
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Speaker 6: temperature hit last night, like who wait, what is this?

498
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Speaker 3: Cause we flew in it was like seventy degrees.

499
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Speaker 6: I'm like, Frank, I can't remember being up in Indianapolis

500
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Speaker 6: when we've because we've always played near the end of

501
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Speaker 6: the year. We come to Combine, so it's January and

502
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Speaker 6: February and March.

503
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Speaker 3: Like. It's never been nice. One game, that's it.

504
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Speaker 6: It's always been that way here, Frank eight and three,

505
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 6: the Jaguars sit after the fifty nine yard field goal

506
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 6: hits the crossbar, and the Jags have got a two

507
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Speaker 6: game lead over the Texans in the division, over the

508
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Speaker 6: Colts in a division. We obviously know how it turns out.

509
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Speaker 6: This might be the most difficult question to ask. Why

510
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Speaker 6: did it turn out that way?

511
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's the one we've all been trying to answer.

512
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Speaker 9: Doug Peterson's that with me for about twenty minutes yesterday.

513
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Speaker 9: We tried to answer it with him. We're all trying

514
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Speaker 9: to get there. John, There's a myriad of things. My

515
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Speaker 9: take is this on eight and three, on that first

516
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 9: drive in Cincinnati, about to go about to go up

517
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Speaker 9: seven to nothing, Christian Kirk got hurt, gone for the year.

518
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Speaker 9: It's a really good player. Zay Jones was hurt all year.

519
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 9: Cam Robinson played half the games, he missed eight games.

520
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Speaker 9: I know everybody gets hurt. It's a get hurt league

521
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Speaker 9: and next man up mentality. I know that, but I

522
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Speaker 9: think when it started happening, Trevor played through ankle, shoulder, concussion, knee.

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Speaker 4: I just think it all snowballed. They lost their confidence.

524
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Speaker 4: You lose it. You're still a young team. You lose

525
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Speaker 4: a game, then you lose another game.

526
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Speaker 9: Now you don't have your leading receiver. Now you don't

527
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Speaker 9: have your two receivers. Now Calvin Ridley's not as good

528
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Speaker 9: because he was out there with guys who knew the

529
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Speaker 9: offense better than him. I think it's snowballed, and once

530
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Speaker 9: that losing mentality gets there, it's hard to get over it. Man,

531
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Speaker 9: it's hard to beat it. They had the one win

532
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Speaker 9: against Carolina, who isn't very good that Bethard played, and

533
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Speaker 9: then lost the last game. So I just think John,

534
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Speaker 9: I think it's snowballed and snowballed. You could feel it

535
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Speaker 9: on the plane. You could feel it. When it's a

536
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Speaker 9: good culture, they're good guys. They couldn't get out. They

537
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 9: couldn't get out of that losing funk. Next thing you know,

538
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Speaker 9: the season's over. So I think it just it all

539
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Speaker 9: started with the Kirk injury on that first series while

540
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Speaker 9: against Cincinnati when you're eighting three and they never.

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Speaker 4: Picked up the pace off because he killed us. He's

542
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Speaker 4: really Kirk killed us.

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Speaker 6: I mean, h right before the half, he takes that

544
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Speaker 6: one all the way down in the one yard line

545
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Speaker 6: and I'm watching run by me.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, we're not covering Christian Kirk today.

547
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Speaker 6: I mean he's killing us, and really then he's not

548
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Speaker 6: for the rest of the year. And you think, okay

549
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Speaker 6: that you could see that game that Trevor was starting

550
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Speaker 6: to like, that's his guy, that's right.

551
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Speaker 3: I thought it was really first but then ended up

552
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Speaker 3: being Kirk.

553
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Speaker 1: I want to confess right now, I am stealing. It's

554
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Speaker 1: a get hurt league. Yeah, okay that I am definitely

555
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Speaker 1: going to take that one. It's a get hurt league

556
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 1: because it's a get better league. It's a next man

557
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: up league. But it's a get hurt living.

558
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Speaker 4: It's hurt. Everybody gets hurt.

559
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Speaker 2: It's true.

560
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Speaker 1: But and since we're all doctors on the radio, I

561
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Speaker 1: thought I would mention this. I think concussions for quarterbacks

562
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Speaker 1: are very They're serious for everybody. Yeah, but as far

563
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Speaker 1: as getting out there and playing again and being at

564
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Speaker 1: the same level.

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Speaker 2: I think it's tough for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: When CJ had his I was glad that they kept

567
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Speaker 1: him out as long as they felt necessary, even though

568
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Speaker 1: you want to see him play in these games. You

569
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Speaker 1: got to do what's right. And Lawrence came back pretty quick.

570
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they brought.

571
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Speaker 2: Him back too quick, Frank, but very often.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it with Brian Hoyer with the Texans in

573
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Quarterbacks might not be the same after it

574
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Speaker 1: can cut, especially when there's other things involved as well.

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Speaker 1: With Lawrence, he was playing through a lot of stuff

576
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a much better situation if he

577
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Speaker 1: could hit the starting live healthy in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's obvious, no question. Back to the quarterbacks getting her.

579
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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks run one they've ever run. Not just running the ball,

580
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Speaker 1: but it's running around in the pocket. There's rpo, now

581
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Speaker 1: there's naked. There's more to that than there's ever been.

582
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Speaker 1: And that is collided with the league doing a very

583
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Speaker 1: good thing and paying more attention to the potential cet

584
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Speaker 1: eat than they've ever paid. So I think those two

585
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Speaker 1: worlds mark collided, and you've got a lot of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: with concussions you're right about that.

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Speaker 9: Trevor's a good player. Trevor Lawrence. He threw a lot

588
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Speaker 9: of picks this year. He didn't have a receiver. He

589
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Speaker 9: played her. He's a tough guy. Doug told me yesterday,

590
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Speaker 9: he said, you know, Frank, he said, Trevor would never

591
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Speaker 9: admit this. He said, no, I'm fine, I'm fine. The

592
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Speaker 9: injuries really affected him. When it's your knee and your ankle,

593
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Speaker 9: you're throwing off your back foot, it affects the ball

594
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Speaker 9: a little bit. Sure, when it's your shoulder on your

595
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Speaker 9: throwing side, and he couldn't practice, and so when you

596
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Speaker 9: can't practice, it affects everything. So and again it sound

597
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Speaker 9: like I'm making excuses. I don't mean it that way.

598
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Speaker 9: He's just my honest opinion.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 9: I think Trevor is going to be fine, But this

601
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 9: was a wake up call. I also think this The

602
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 9: Jags have been allowsy forever.

603
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Speaker 4: We know that.

604
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Speaker 9: I've called the game. The Jags have been a struggling franchise.

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Speaker 9: All of a sudden two years ago, they're pretty good.

606
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Speaker 9: They won the division. They didn't run away, but they're

607
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Speaker 9: nine and eight. They're pretty good. But you got to

608
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Speaker 9: kind of learn how to be good. So you got

609
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Speaker 9: to kind of learn to be the team that's on

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Speaker 9: top of the division. The Texans, even though there's been

611
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Speaker 9: recent struggles, the Texans won that division a bunch of

612
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Speaker 9: years in a row, you know, so the Jags haven't

613
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Speaker 9: had that. So they have to learn to be the

614
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Speaker 9: team that everyone's shooting for, to play the first place schedule,

615
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Speaker 9: to deal with the psychology of that. And I think

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Speaker 9: last year was part of that learning.

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Speaker 4: I really do. I think they're there. Team's gonna be

618
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Speaker 4: a good chick. I really believe that.

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Speaker 6: Frank Jaguars to do list this offseason. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 6: we talked a little bit about it. You know, Trevor's

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Speaker 6: going out to his fourth year, so he couldn't get

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Speaker 6: the extension. Yeah, you got Josh Allen if it's van

623
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Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Yeah, is an unrestricted free agent. Don't know

624
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Speaker 6: if he'll be franchised. What's kind of the to do

625
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Speaker 6: list for the Jags as you go into twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 9: Well, in terms of in terms of taking care of

627
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Speaker 9: their own that's your quote where you're going John with

628
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 9: the question Josh Allen's gonna be on the team. He

629
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Speaker 9: had seventeen and a half sacks. He's the best password

630
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 9: maybe the best pass roads that they've ever had. He'll

631
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 9: now you can tag him. You don't want to do that.

632
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Speaker 9: You got another week. Hopefully you can get it done

633
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Speaker 9: before the week's out. And then if you can sign

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Speaker 9: him to an extension without tagging him, then I think

635
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 9: you tag Calvin Ridley because I think you want Ridley

636
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Speaker 9: on the team, and so because I think with Kirk

637
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 9: and z A. Jones and Ridley and Eying're gonna be

638
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 9: a pretty good core there. So I think you want

639
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 9: to try. And so goal number one is to sign Allen.

640
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 9: If not you tag him, then you can't tag Calvin.

641
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 9: You could sign Calvin and then you know the Falcon

642
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 9: the second round pick. But those two are the two priorities.

643
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 9: After that, they've got to make a lot of decisions

644
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 9: on guys that are under contract that they could save money.

645
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 9: If they cut him, Cam Robinsons would cost him sixteen million.

646
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 9: They could save sixteen million on the cap if you

647
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Speaker 9: cut him, and you got Anton Harrison your right tack

648
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 9: who's going to be the left tackle at some point?

649
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: Walker Little is going to be the right tackle at

650
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Speaker 4: some point. Do you make that move now, or.

651
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Speaker 9: With the cap being bigger than everybody thought it was

652
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Speaker 9: going to be, do you say now we'll keep hi

653
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 9: another Seawan Jenkins good safety probably saves me about eight millions.

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Speaker 9: A Jones saves me about five million. Do you cut

655
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Speaker 9: these guys in their last year their deals or do

656
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Speaker 9: you say, now our windows open, let's go try and

657
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Speaker 9: win right now?

658
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Speaker 4: That's what they've got to decide.

659
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Speaker 9: I would think that from a salary standpoint, not talking

660
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Speaker 9: about procurement of new guys, but if a salary standpoint

661
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Speaker 9: kind of where you're going with the question, John, I

662
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Speaker 9: think those are the key things.

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Speaker 1: Frank Francie, voice of the Jaguars with us all right,

664
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Speaker 1: I know you follow the Gators closely. You host a

665
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Speaker 1: talk show in North Florida. Let's talk about Anthony Richardson

666
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Speaker 1: because he exited the stage relatively early last season. Colts

667
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Speaker 1: have a good year anyway, lose Week eighteen. We all

668
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Speaker 1: know what happened. How good do you think Anthony Richardson

669
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Speaker 1: is going to be? Based on what you saw in

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Speaker 1: college and what you saw his brief time in the

671
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Speaker 1: NFL so far.

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Speaker 9: Here's the thing, Mark, He's a great talent and a

673
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Speaker 9: great kid. He is a selfless, good person, wonderful teammate.

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Speaker 9: And you know he's six three and a half six

675
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Speaker 9: four too forty, can run out of site, super fast, physical,

676
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Speaker 9: super tough.

677
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Speaker 4: He became a more accurate path.

678
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Speaker 9: If the question was his accuracy, I think he became

679
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Speaker 9: more accurate than anyone thought. I think he's got all

680
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Speaker 9: the goods, both the software and the hardware. The question

681
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Speaker 9: is going to stay in the field.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: He only played thirteen games in college, in large part

684
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Speaker 9: because he was hurt a lot. It'd be a hamstring

685
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Speaker 9: one week, it'd be a groin, the next week it'd

686
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Speaker 9: be it and and that happened a lot. There was

687
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Speaker 9: a little stuff that he couldn't get healthy. They I

688
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 9: tell you, I can tell you the family, his personal trainer.

689
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Speaker 9: They brought in people, nutritionists and pets, and just.

690
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Speaker 4: What do we do.

691
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Speaker 9: We gets to the league places three, two or three

692
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Speaker 9: game he gets hurt again. Yeah, and so so what

693
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Speaker 9: he's got a pre If he wasn't in our dang division,

694
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Speaker 9: I'd be rooting harder for him than anybody.

695
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Speaker 4: Else because he could really I really like him.

696
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Speaker 9: But I do think the fair answer to that mark,

697
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Speaker 9: he's got to prove he can stay on the field

698
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 9: the best abilities availability and that the cliche and and

699
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Speaker 9: it's just it's just so we'll see. But I think

700
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Speaker 9: he's going to be a very good player in today's NFL,

701
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Speaker 9: where quarterbacks are mobile and physical and run and throw.

702
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Speaker 4: I think he's going to be very good if he

703
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Speaker 4: can stay on the field.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I got two of them, and they're gonna be

705
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Speaker 6: polar opposites, but I'm gonna build off of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving you a one word answer. Yeah, yes or no?

707
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Speaker 3: Billiy Napier at the University of Florida.

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Speaker 9: No, Okay, I want to expound on it, but knows

709
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Speaker 9: the one word answer.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here's the other one. How's the London experiment going?

711
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Speaker 6: Getting two back? You know, you guys did back to

712
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Speaker 6: back weeks after the game you lost to Houston, you

713
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Speaker 6: go over there for a couple of weeks, you get

714
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Speaker 6: a couple wins over there. Has that kind of turned

715
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Speaker 6: into a Hey, we know what this is all about.

716
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Speaker 6: We handle our business, you beat the bills over there.

717
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Speaker 6: What's kind of the London experience like and what it's

718
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Speaker 6: What was it like this past year doing the back

719
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Speaker 6: to back?

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Speaker 9: I think the Jaguars would love to keep it this

721
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Speaker 9: way forever. I think the Jags would love I don't

722
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Speaker 9: even in the negotiation for this new stadium. They're going

723
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Speaker 9: to play the home game every year. I'd be surprised

724
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Speaker 9: if that doesn't happen. As for the road game, if

725
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Speaker 9: the league has trouble finding teams that want to go

726
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Speaker 9: do it, the Jags would love to say, we'll be

727
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Speaker 9: the road team. You just played back to back, right

728
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 9: help them last year they won both games, are comfortable,

729
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 9: they know how to do it.

730
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Speaker 7: Now.

731
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Speaker 9: Look, the union's got to get involved in that. The

732
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 9: nflpa's got to get involved. If players say, listen, that's

733
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 9: too long to be the NFL players. Professional athletes are

734
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 9: twenty somethings. The the the high percentage of professional athletes

735
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 9: are in their twenties, which means they've just started their families.

736
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Speaker 9: They're young, they haven't been married long, they've got little kids.

737
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 9: So that's a long time to be gone. And so

738
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Speaker 9: they're going to have a say in that and whether

739
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Speaker 9: the whether the union said and I don't know where

740
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 9: that is, John to your question, but I think I

741
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 9: think that's going to be the real world is that's

742
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Speaker 9: going to come into play.

743
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Speaker 4: Big picture, I think the Jags would love it.

744
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 9: I I for us, it's the wonderful triple for the

745
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 9: first we've gone every years, first time I've ever taken

746
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Speaker 9: my wife. Yeah, because I was gonna take my wife

747
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 9: for three days, you know, so it's but now for

748
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 9: for nine days.

749
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Speaker 4: So then it comes with me. We go to Ireland,

750
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Speaker 4: we go, so we love it.

751
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Speaker 9: But but I think the team to your to your question,

752
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 9: I think the one game is the home game will

753
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 9: always be there, and I think the Jags would love

754
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 9: to play the second game there is a road team

755
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 9: if the league needs them to do that.

756
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Speaker 1: Frank you, being the voice of the Jaguars, you would

757
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: have a great vibe on this. What would it take

758
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: to have a team or two in Europe, in London

759
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: and Germany, whatever the case may be. How would you

760
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: set it up? What's the best possible setup? Because I

761
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: know this has to have come up many times in

762
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Speaker 1: your show.

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Speaker 9: It'll never happen, there will never. There will never be

764
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Speaker 9: an NFL team there. It'll never. There's too there's too

765
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 9: much you have to do. Mark you have to bring

766
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 9: in players for tryouts. Not every players got a passport

767
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 9: you've got to bring. You gotta cut players, you signed players,

768
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 9: there's too much personnel activity, uh to you can you

769
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 9: can never do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean you can't.

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Speaker 9: I can try how many get I would say an

772
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Speaker 9: NFL team tries out fifty sixty guys over the course

773
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Speaker 9: of a year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, at least that right. You can't do that.

775
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Speaker 9: Now they say, well, you can have a home base

776
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 9: in Atlanta and and and it doesn't work. So a

777
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 9: team there is never gonna is never gonna work. What

778
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Speaker 9: I do see is an expanded series of games abroad.

779
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 9: You're already seeing games in Germany. You're gonna see a

780
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Speaker 9: game in Mexico. I think Roger Goodell wants to take

781
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 9: this game internationally more than ever before. I think you

782
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 9: can see games in China. I think you can see

783
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Speaker 9: game in Japan. I think you can see games all

784
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 9: over the play. I really believe that. But as far

785
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 9: as the team being based there, I don't need. The

786
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 9: closest you could do is you'd have to base the

787
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Speaker 9: division there and it had to people.

788
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Speaker 4: But I don't, I don't. I don't think that day's

789
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: ever come. I'd be shocked at that day ever comes.

790
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Speaker 6: New defensive coordinator Ryan Nielsen, kind of football geek. Question

791
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Speaker 6: your thoughts what he brings. He did a good job.

792
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 6: I thought with Atlanta. I thought that was a good

793
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Speaker 6: get for Jacksonville. What'so overall thought, Frank about Ryan Nielson

794
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 6: defense coordinator?

795
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Speaker 9: John He's a football coach man. You know some guys

796
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 9: they are a football coach. He's spend a little time

797
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Speaker 9: with him last night out at the restaurant.

798
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Speaker 4: For a bit.

799
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Speaker 9: He's he's a football coach. I like what he did.

800
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 9: It's the message was clear. Doug Peterson got to the

801
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 9: whole staff, brought in a coordinator.

802
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Speaker 4: The coordinator had a.

803
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Speaker 9: Lot to do with with with the staff under him.

804
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna be good. I think Mike Mike

805
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 9: Caldroll was a good football coach. He was in demand

806
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 9: as a linebackers coach the minute that Jags let him go,

807
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 9: but he probably might not have been ready to be

808
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 9: the coordinator. Might not have been ready. There's a president

809
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 9: you have to have. I think Ryan's got that presence.

810
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 9: They'll be better. Listen, this is a team that believes

811
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 9: during their window. You know, when you're in your window,

812
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 9: that's when you go get it. The uh back in

813
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 9: the day. Now you remember this, but back in the nineties,

814
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 9: the Jaguars the only other time they really were in

815
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 9: an extended window, they went and signed Carnell Lake and

816
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 9: Hardy Nickerson and Bryce Pop and all these guys.

817
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Speaker 4: Because you're in the window. Well, we haven't had many windows. Okay.

818
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 9: I think they feel like they're in the window now

819
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 9: and so so I think that's why you go get

820
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Speaker 9: the who you think was the best defensive coordinator on

821
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Speaker 9: the market. I think I think you go out and

822
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Speaker 9: I think they'll be active in free agency.

823
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Speaker 4: They've got a little caproo. I think you're they're going

824
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: to try to win right.

825
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: Now, Frank Franzie, voice of the Jaguars with us, As

826
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Speaker 1: we said, you talk a lot of college football. So

827
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Speaker 1: fix college football for me right now. Okay, you're Frank

828
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Speaker 1: the Fixer. Yeah, that's a good name, I guess, uh.

829
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to ask you to fix another sport

830
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: in a moment here. But let's focus on college football

831
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: because this has to come up a ton on the airwaves.

832
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: The nil stuff. It's crazy. It's the Wild West. Teams

833
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: have entire departments, schools do to deal with the poor

834
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and at il what do you think.

835
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Speaker 4: It's never been more broken.

836
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 9: College football has never been more non like college football

837
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 9: than it is right now. Never, It's never been more

838
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 9: in that area now mark where it's sort of a

839
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 9: professional sport. Now it's treated like a professional sport. Guys

840
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 9: go to class, it's online classes, if they even go

841
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 9: to class. It's everyone's getting paid, they're having endorsement deals.

842
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 9: It's not what we know is college football. College football

843
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 9: has to make a decision. Do they go back to

844
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 9: what they were when there's not an il where you

845
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 9: do where you can't transfer three times, where you go back,

846
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 9: which I don't think is ever gonna happen, but or

847
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 9: do you go all in and make it a professional sport.

848
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 9: I think college football should should pull away from the

849
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 9: rest of college athletics. I think college football is treated

850
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 9: different than the rest of those. I think they should

851
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 9: have their own league. I think that there should be

852
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 9: the sixty four teams or however many. I think it

853
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 9: should be essentially the professional league. Players get paid, teams

854
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 9: have a salary cap, I think, and I think that's

855
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 9: where college football is going to get to it at

856
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 9: some point. I think the Big Ten and then STC

857
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 9: are going to mandate that because they're gonna pull away

858
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 9: from everybody else. So Mark, right now you're in the middle.

859
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 9: You can't We don't even know what is it right now,

860
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 9: we don't even know what it is. It is it

861
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 9: a pro sport, is an amateur sport? It's never been

862
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 9: more broken. Now having said that, I can't wait to

863
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 9: watch the twelve teams. Let me connect this to a

864
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 9: question John asked me earlier. Billion Napier Billion. Napier would

865
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 9: have been a fantastic hire ten years ago.

866
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Speaker 4: He's a great recruiter.

867
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Speaker 9: Kids love him, high school coaches love him, handlers love him,

868
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 9: parents love him. He knows how to build that he's

869
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 9: a good person.

870
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: He could really recruit.

871
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Speaker 9: Then all of all of a sudden, here comes in

872
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 9: Il and here comes to Portal And now you don't

873
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 9: do it that way anymore. Now you have to do

874
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 9: you have the most money? Are you a smooth talker?

875
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 9: Can you can you raise money? Can you get guys

876
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 9: that come for one year? And that's never what he

877
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 9: was going to be So and on top of that,

878
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 9: this year, have you seen the schedule this year? It

879
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 9: was called it's brutal, It's called some people think the

880
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 9: hardest in college football history. You played, you're the non conference?

881
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 9: Are Miami Florida State UCF? Okay, the in conference at

882
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 9: Texas LSU at Ole Miss or maybe all Miss home

883
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 9: of Georgia, So Tennessee. It will be his hardest. So

884
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 9: he's gonna win four games, five games, and they're gonna

885
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 9: fire him. It's a shame because I think he's actually

886
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 9: a pretty good guy to run a program. I don't

887
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 9: know if he's a great coach, but I think I

888
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 9: think he's gonna go four and eight, five and seven

889
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 9: to get fired.

890
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: All right.

891
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: Second sport you need to fix. Yes, golf because you're

892
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: in the hot time.

893
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: Charge put me in charge.

894
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: Yes, PGA headquarters there, Golf Hall of Fame there. What

895
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: are we gonna do?

896
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Frank? This is weird.

897
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: Guys winning tournaments every week no one's ever heard of.

898
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Ratings are not bad right now for the PGA Live

899
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: still nobody's watching, relatively and they've got all the names.

900
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: What is going on? What can you do about it?

901
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 9: Well, First of all, two or three things have happened. First,

902
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 9: there's the PIF and the Live and they went and

903
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 9: got a bunch of good players because John Rohm can

904
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 9: make more money and play less golf. Why would he

905
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 9: not take that deal? It's like the old USFL and

906
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 9: the Memphis show Boats. Why would Jim Kelly and Larry

907
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 9: Zonk and Jim kick a decade earlier? Why would they

908
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 9: not do it? More money? Why would Jim Kelly not

909
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 9: go to the Houston gamblers. He's going to make more

910
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 9: money and why So? So that's where that's where I

911
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 9: do have an answer, but going on, but that's where

912
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 9: that's where it.

913
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 4: Is right now.

914
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 9: So so so to compete with the money, the PGA

915
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 9: Tour didn't have it. So the PGA Tour is now

916
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 9: gone to Arthur Blank and some some big money US

917
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 9: owners who can kind of compete financially. Once the tour

918
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 9: gets to where it can compete financially, and that's starting

919
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 9: to happen now, once they've gotten money similar to the

920
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 9: Saudi money that's.

921
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: Being put into it, then you'll see a merger. You'll

922
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: it'll it'll merge.

923
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 9: It may be another year, it may not, It may

924
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 9: it may be it's the most another year or two.

925
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 9: Then you'll see the World Golf Association. You'll see the

926
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 9: w g A, the w G and the World Golf

927
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 9: League and they'll all be in it, and there might

928
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 9: be different divisions, just like there are in the A

929
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 9: f C, NFC.

930
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: But you'll ultimately it's going to happen.

931
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 9: There's going to be the World Golf Association whatever they

932
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 9: wind up calling it, and it'll be based partially in Jacksonville,

933
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 9: will be based partially in Europe, and and there'll be

934
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 9: different divisions and they'll be one champion and they'll be

935
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 9: one tour champion.

936
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: So so it's it's coming. There's no, there's no.

937
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't like to live format watching it on TV.

938
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: It's like watching Bloomberg on my screen.

939
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: Think like an F one fan at that point, because

940
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: that'll go. That's an international thing, that F one. The

941
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 6: way they do things, it makes it adds drama. You

942
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: have the team concept and yet individuals out there. It's

943
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: a lot of drama marketing.

944
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 7: You know what.

945
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 9: That's going away what you ultimately have with when this

946
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 9: World Golf League Association whatever's formed, it'll be it'll be

947
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 9: four day stroke play tournaments, which is what the PG

948
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 9: it's my opinion. And and look those the guys that

949
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 9: want to live, Dustin Johnson and John Raman, they don't

950
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 9: care about the team.

951
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: You know what they care about. Take care if they

952
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: want to make more money and.

953
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 9: Play less exactly, and they want and they and they

954
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 9: want to and so and that's what's going to happen.

955
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 9: So there will be there's gonna be the merge, and

956
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 9: it's gonna happen at some point.

957
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: All I know.

958
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 6: Or there are billions of fans for f one around

959
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 6: the world that love the team concept. Yeah, And we

960
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 6: work in a team sport with a lot of individuals

961
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 6: that want individual things, so it's different. You're just not

962
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 6: in a sport like golf that is so purely individual.

963
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 6: To think about it in a team concept is extremely difficult.

964
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I and for that reason, that's what you said.

965
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 9: We've spent we've spent too much time, too many decades

966
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 9: believing this is how you do it. The concept is

967
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 9: too strange, don't I don't know. It's it's like having

968
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 9: two outs in an inning. You're not going to change

969
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 9: the two outs in an inning because if you had

970
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 9: three outs in an inning for one hundred years.

971
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 6: It's like people watching Premier League soccer and love the relegation,

972
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 6: love the promotion. That's a big deal in Premier League soccer,

973
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 6: and you think, Okay, how can we translate that to

974
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 6: your American sports, and like, you can't because it just

975
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 6: hasn't a concept here.

976
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: By four and it's too different.

977
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, that's a great concept.

978
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.

979
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 9: The if you're I mean, you don't know how to

980
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 9: have that. Baseball should have that. I mean, bab bab baseball.

981
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 9: Baseball should have relegation because then, let's just say you're

982
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 9: a I'm randomly saying this, but let's say you're a

983
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 9: play by play football guy in Jacksonville who loves the

984
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 9: Pittsburgh Pirates. Just a random there and just and if

985
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 9: you're randomly that guy, you are forever pissed.

986
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: Did the Pittsburgh Pirates always suck? Okay?

987
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 9: Well, if they were getting relegated to Triple A, then

988
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 9: they'd be motivated to not suck.

989
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: So I love relegation.

990
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: That's a good thing.

991
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: That would make it and you'd have an Indianapolis team

992
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: like this run he goes up.

993
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 2: They had that nice stadium here. It's very cool.

994
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: They go up, they go up.

995
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: Not bad. Frank, You're awesome. Thanks a lot for joining us.

996
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Thanks fun sit down with Frank Franchie voice of the

997
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars here on Radio Slash Media row at the

998
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine. Among the Texans opponents this year, did

999
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: e England Patriots in Foxborough. Let's check in with an

1000
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: expert on what's going on in their building, Mike do

1001
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: So from Patriots dot Com, among other things we'll get

1002
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: to before the close of business today. It's Texans All Access.

1003
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: Final chapter of tonight's episode of Texans All Access is here,

1004
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: and we like to preview some of the opponents of

1005
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: the upcoming season. We'll be doing that a lot this offseason.

1006
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: The new England Patriots, one of them going to Gillette Stadium,

1007
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: where the Texans have never won. Can they get it

1008
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: done this year? In the post Belichick era. Let's get

1009
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: to know the Patriots, this year's version of them a

1010
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: little bit better look this year's version the league year

1011
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: hasn't even officially started, but you know what we're saying.

1012
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: As Mike do So from Patriots dot Com sits down

1013
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: at our table and Johnny starts them off with a

1014
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: fastball A question about the Patriots documentary streaming on Apple TV.

1015
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 6: How did Patriots people feel? And when I say Patriots people,

1016
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 6: I mean just fans, people in the building.

1017
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, how do they feel about this documentary that's out?

1018
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: Well?

1019
00:42:59,080 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: Which new episode?

1020
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 10: Sure, yeah, no, it's It's interesting because I think, you know,

1021
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 10: initially you thought this was going to be for the fans,

1022
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 10: and I think a lot of fans thought it was

1023
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 10: gonna you know, and of course we knew.

1024
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: The controversial stuff would be covered.

1025
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: But I think what was most surprising, at least to me.

1026
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 10: I haven't seen these episodes that are gonna that are

1027
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 10: gonna drop tonight, but having seen the first four, it

1028
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 10: was like, well, you know, we had a twenty one

1029
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 10: game win streak and we went two Super Bowls. They

1030
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 10: kind of glanced right over that act and we.

1031
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: Went right into Spygates.

1032
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 10: So I think Patriots fans were a little bit, you know,

1033
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 10: just disappointed because I think that that deserves to be highlighted.

1034
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 10: I mean, twenty one win streak and those those two

1035
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 10: teams were outstanding, so we kind of skipped that part.

1036
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how it goes. Well.

1037
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: I heard why they did that though, why they skipped

1038
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: over it because they feel like that stuff was covered

1039
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: in America's game and it's been covered at length elsewhere.

1040
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 10: And they have a different agenda going sure, no, absolutely,

1041
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 10: that's and that's you know what I think we realized

1042
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 10: that this is they're trying to tell the whole story,

1043
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 10: and they're trying to tell it from an outside perspective,

1044
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 10: and they're trying to you know, highlight some of the drama.

1045
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: So it is what it is.

1046
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: You know, we just have to accept what they do.

1047
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: But we we've got full podcast.

1048
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 10: Breaking it down internally and you know, talking about every

1049
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 10: episode and so we've got we've got you know, we

1050
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 10: want to hear our reactions.

1051
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: You go to Patriots dot coming here all that.

1052
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: Mike do so Patriots dot com. You've been with the

1053
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Patriots for five years with the organization, so it's been

1054
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: a heck of a five years transition.

1055
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: Five years.

1056
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got here at the end of the era

1057
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: and you're starting a new one. And what is that

1058
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: like being in the building with the new staff, everything

1059
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: is brand new.

1060
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: It feels like it's been a big switch.

1061
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: It's been a big switch.

1062
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 10: Indeed, you know, just from write the get go when

1063
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 10: they introduced Gerrod. You know, we I've been coming to

1064
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 10: the combine. This is my I think my fourth Combine

1065
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 10: in the last five years. You know, first time we.

1066
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: Got a chance to talk to Elliot Wolf. We got

1067
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: Ellie Wolf came and sat down with us.

1068
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 10: You know, usually the Patriots didn't even have a representative

1069
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 10: here at the combine speaking on on Tuesday or Wednesday.

1070
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 10: So it was exciting for us as a content team

1071
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 10: to be able to you know, have Elliott sit down.

1072
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 10: We got to talk to Gerard yesterday morning. So it's

1073
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 10: certainly presenting us more opportunities as a content team to

1074
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 10: you know highlight.

1075
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of a lot of changes coming in.

1076
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: I mean, the system was in place for twenty.

1077
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 10: Plus years and it's it's it's a little bit jarring,

1078
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 10: I think, as things are changing a little behind the scenes.

1079
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 6: By when I was at the Senior Bowl, something struck

1080
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 6: me that I texted Mark immediately afterwards. And I was

1081
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 6: down on the field on Senior Bowl and I just

1082
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: kind of walked a length of the field and just

1083
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 6: kind of take in everything that's going on. And I

1084
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 6: get near the quarterbacks and I could see a couple

1085
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 6: of guys with their cameras and they're taking these intricate

1086
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: shots and how the videographers and I look down and

1087
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, I see this guy with the red sweatshirt.

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Speaker 3: It's his Patriots, and I'm like, man, that dude didn't

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Speaker 3: have to worry about that.

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Speaker 6: Now he wasn't him, but just in general, he didn't

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Speaker 6: have to worry about that for twenty years, and you didn't.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you might have drafted a Garoppolo or Brissett,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. But it wasn't top of mine. You knew

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Speaker 6: it was Tom, and that's the way you go. Now

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Speaker 6: there's been some change. Mac is drafted in twenty one,

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Speaker 6: things that haven't gone so great the last couple of years,

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Speaker 6: and now you're sitty at number three. And I thought

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Speaker 6: about him as he was filming, and I thought, man,

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Speaker 6: there's a reason they want to know all these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: I want to know me inside and out. Add number three,

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Speaker 6: what do you think? What do you think happens? Do

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Speaker 6: you think they trade for a quarterback? Do you think

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Speaker 6: they sign a free agent if Kirk Cousins becomes available,

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Speaker 6: or do you think number three is spent on quarterback?

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Speaker 10: I mean, it sounds like the scuttle button around here

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Speaker 10: this week has been that they want a quarterback. And

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Speaker 10: you know, I mean, we look, we just we look

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Speaker 10: at the Texans what you guys did last year, and

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Speaker 10: you know we were able to hit with CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 10: And I think, you know, we're all kind of holding

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Speaker 10: that up right now as maybe you know, I don't

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Speaker 10: think we can turn it around quite as quick. But

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Speaker 10: I think the quarterback, if you're up at three, that's

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Speaker 10: what you have to do. And and right now, the

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Speaker 10: conversation we're having though, and though he kind of throwing

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Speaker 10: in is well, isn't Marvin Harrison probably the top guy

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Speaker 10: in your draft pick when you get to number three,

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Speaker 10: and you know, do you ignore that? Do you ignore

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Speaker 10: the chance to you know, get a potential generational receiver.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think Malik Nighbors is outstanding too, so

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Speaker 10: I do think there's some question of that. But but

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Speaker 10: the hard part right now is the Patriots don't really

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Speaker 10: have a left or right tackle. You know, Michael and

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Speaker 10: Win us a free agent. He played right tackle last year.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if that's the best spot for him.

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Speaker 10: They could bring him back, but they have needs it running.

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry they have needs to tackle. They have obviously

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Speaker 10: need a quarterback and they need to As Elliott Wolf said,

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Speaker 10: earlier this week. They need to weaponize the offense. So

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Speaker 10: there's a long way to go on the offensive side

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00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 10: of the ball, a lot of ways to skin the cat,

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Speaker 10: but I think at the end of the day, take

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Speaker 10: the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There's Mike do So Patriots dot Com and we've actually

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Speaker 1: got a lot more with him that I'll put up

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Speaker 1: on a vanderpod or we'll play it next week, or

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Speaker 1: we'll do something with it.

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Speaker 2: And coming up is a show you need to be

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Speaker 2: listening to.

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Speaker 1: It is Area forty five with Patrick Creighton and Sean Bajani.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that and check us out tomorrow as

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Speaker 1: we'll have Andrew Csiliano on, We'll have rtt Lewis on.

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Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna stop by, So check us

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Speaker 1: out and check out this show in podcast form on

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com or Spotify or iTunes or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night, Go Texans.