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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh it was cupcake Day in college football. We'll explain

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Speaker 2: that in just a minute. Good morning, everybody, This is it.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we're brodcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, And here

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Speaker 2: he is my partner, my friend. He played in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: He knows what he's talking about, mount like the guy

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Speaker 2: who's talking right now. Welcome my friend Bucky Brooks. How

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. What's going on? Andy?

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Speaker 3: Everything is wonderful, so much to talk about.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we have asked Bucky at the end

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Speaker 2: of this hour, so if you have any good questions

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Speaker 2: for Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks had Andy Furman FSR.

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Speaker 2: And we welcome again our good friend Brandon Deutsch is

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Speaker 2: here for Bree.

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Speaker 3: Brandon, how are you? I know you can't talk.

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Speaker 2: That much you got that laryngitis, but we're glad to

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Speaker 2: have you with us.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, thanks for having me fell in for Bree.

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Speaker 4: Tough task, love you, We love you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go Bucky, I got it.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of odds, and I want to

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Speaker 2: throw at you right now. And you know, I live

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Speaker 2: in the greater Cincinnati area and I never thought in

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Speaker 2: my entire life i'd see something like this. They had

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Speaker 2: a high school football game and they moved it from

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Speaker 2: a local high school stadium to pay Court stadium when

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Speaker 2: the Bengals played this this Friday night in the rain,

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Speaker 2: Saint Xavier High School of Cincinnati played Elder High School, undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Elder High School in Cincinnati. Almost twenty three thousand people

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Speaker 2: came to that game. Now, I lived in Brooklyn, New York.

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Speaker 2: Little Lafayette High School played football ten o'clock on Saturday mornings.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we had twenty two twenty three thousand

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Speaker 2: people in my three years at Lafayette High School, entire

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Speaker 2: three years, twenty three. I mean, is this something? Are

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Speaker 2: you accustomed to games like this? Crowds like that? I

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Speaker 2: can't believe it. It was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Well, it sounds like it was a headliner matchup. And

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Speaker 5: in southern California you will get some of those matchups.

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Speaker 1: Where you get twenty thousand people anytime you match up.

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Speaker 5: Modern day in Saint John Bosco two teams SOCl powers

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Speaker 5: but also national powers. You can draw that kind of crowd,

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Speaker 5: But to get twenty three thousand in the Bengals Stadium

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Speaker 5: on a Friday night. It's funny because I heard about

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Speaker 5: that because I think which seemed the team to start

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Speaker 5: with the e Are they purple?

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Speaker 3: Elder? Elder High school Elder.

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Speaker 5: So the coach from Louisville, Pat Kelsey, is an Elder great,

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Speaker 5: and he talked about bleeding purple, and he's putting that

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Speaker 5: out there in the presser, So it was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a big deal. I don't know

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Speaker 3: Saint Xavier won a beat Elde.

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Speaker 2: Elder was undefeated at the time, and Pat Kelsey, you're right,

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Speaker 2: he went to Elder and that night, the same evening,

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Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati was playing Louisville in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was It was one of those.

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Speaker 2: Weekends in the area that happens maybe once every five, six,

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Speaker 2: seven years. They had Cincinnati playing Louisville and basketball, they

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Speaker 2: had Elder playing Saint E'sian football. That was Friday night.

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Speaker 2: Also Xavier was playing Georgia and basketball, so you got.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati lost to Louisville, Xavier lost to Georgia, and yesterday

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati lost to Brigham Young. So the only saving grace

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Speaker 2: which I don't think that's gonna happen. So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: is only just saying. I mean, I'm happy we have sports.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy they hear, but come on, give me a break. Comeing,

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Speaker 2: get like a winner here. It's amazing, it's depressing. Now,

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Speaker 2: now I got another bit of information I want to

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Speaker 2: throw with you. I'm reading about this Lane Kiffin thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the grand standing of Lane Kiffin. All Right,

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Speaker 2: the Mississippi football fans and Florida and LSU, all these people,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna have to wait now, like another seven eight

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Speaker 2: come after his rebels played Mississippi State and that Egg

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Speaker 2: Bowl on November the twenty eighth. Okay, now he's rumored

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Speaker 2: to go LSU. He may go to Florida. I don't

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Speaker 2: get it, don't. I mean, this doesn't do any good

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Speaker 2: for anybody, now, for the school, not for the administration

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Speaker 2: well follow him either to LSU and Florida. Why in

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Speaker 2: the hell well is he grand standing?

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Speaker 3: Now? Penn State's looking for a coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't hear Penn State ranting and raving about the

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Speaker 3: But why is Lane Kifflin doing this? Number one and

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Speaker 2: What in the heck has lank Kifflin really ever accomplished

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Speaker 2: all right. Father, what's the deal with this grand standing?

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Speaker 2: It's like where he's gonna go? Does anybody really care?

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Speaker 2: Tell me that the upside of this bucket, Brooks. I

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if An needs the upside

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Speaker 5: Fans to not be disappointed or to still come out

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Speaker 1: You want to finish it off the right way. But

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Speaker 5: Coach who is caught up and caught up in a

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Speaker 2: I just it just bothers me that it's all about

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Speaker 2: I mean, and again, I think Penn State's doing it

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea who they're interviewing. There's some rumors

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Speaker 3: The way they go.

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Speaker 2: But as far as lang Kiffin is concerned, he's almost

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Speaker 2: bigger than the school itself. And I never met the guy,

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Speaker 3: I think it's wrong. I really do.

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Speaker 2: And if he has an agent or an attorney, the

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Speaker 2: back off it' stop playing one against the other.

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Speaker 5: I think if you're the agent, the agent, you want this,

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Speaker 5: You want to create a situation where you have leverage.

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Speaker 5: Perfect world for an agent is have two or more

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Speaker 5: Plays to the favor of the agent. It just makes

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Speaker 2: you don't do that because you can't. You work in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Yeah, it doesn't do anything. You want to

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Speaker 2: I think he's doing this to let Old Miss, you know,

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Speaker 5: So you're part of a statue program, meaning they're going

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Speaker 5: more money you can get better players. I just think

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Speaker 1: Why would you leave? But only he knows what his

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Speaker 3: To me, I'm with you there. We'll leave that alone. Now.

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Speaker 3: We aim to please on this show every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And there are some people I gotta believe that they

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Speaker 2: I guess, the entire entertainment package that's involved, especially with

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Speaker 3: So we're here to please.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I found the story here that's going to

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Speaker 2: there's a man who had a lifelong goal. His name

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Speaker 2: is Ken Brussard, sixty six years of age, and his

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Speaker 3: He wanted to be a member of the LSU band.

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Speaker 3: He did. So what did he do?

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Speaker 2: He went on Amazon. He bought a tuba because for

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Speaker 2: Thousand, practiced, and you know what, he is a member

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Speaker 3: I love that. What a great story, a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: So we try to aim to please for those who

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Speaker 3: How do you like that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, this's a nice story. I've actually seen it.

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Speaker 2: Now, I guess the game of the day yesterday I

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Speaker 2: That's what Brandon said, is going to be that. Well,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of happy.

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Speaker 2: Oregon one number one. It was a home game, so

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Speaker 5: I don't like the Shenanigans like that, right, Like that's

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Speaker 2: How impressed were you with Oregon? I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: now because I looked at organ early on. I thought

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Speaker 2: weeks ago with Notre Dame. I'm telling you, right now,

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Speaker 3: They could have scored one hundred points.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday they won seventy to seven over Syracuse and I'm

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say this about Marcus Freeman, one of

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Speaker 5: they haven't played well, people say they haven't beat anybody,

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Speaker 5: everyone is on them. But when you watch them play,

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Speaker 2: Postseason, right and if you're a fan of Miami or Florida,

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Speaker 2: this Miami team I still like them. I just don't

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Speaker 2: on track right now. I think that Miami is gonna

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's I mean, that's the Miami team.

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Speaker 1: People talk about high ceilings and high floors.

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Speaker 5: Well, the high floor is the bottom of what you're

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Speaker 1: It's easy to build around that. Miami doesn't give you that.

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Speaker 5: They are just these fluctuations where the ceiling is high,

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Speaker 5: It's hard for Mario crystal Ball to kind of figure

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Speaker 3: Right, It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Now here's a situation where I think, I think I

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they had a chance maybe to get to the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but Pitt came out to that game firing.

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Speaker 2: week to week basis, you just don't know what you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a lot to that. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: College football is great, man, because you just don't know.

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Speaker 5: You see the craziest and wildest things take place weekly,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I'm almost to the fact now

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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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Speaker 2: How could the school like Kentucky be so strong, so

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Speaker 3: You know, And I've heard the excuses over the years.

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Speaker 2: The years, Well, you know, Kentucky is the northernmost team

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Speaker 4: That's bull.

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Speaker 2: Kids go to Ohio States, it's north. Kids go to Michigan,

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Speaker 2: So what's the deal with with Kentucky? Why can't they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Kentucky's a I wouldn't say it's a weird one,

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Speaker 5: That has to be tough for them because every week

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Speaker 2: Right, I got to go back locally here Cincinnati. You know,

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Speaker 3: They're strong.

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Speaker 2: Really, I mean, you know, it's kind of sad because

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Speaker 2: And honestly, if Cincinnati would have won last night, with

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Speaker 3: But it's not gonna happen. And now I.

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Speaker 2: Worry about Scott Sadafield in his future at Cincinnati because

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: I never played for him, I never played football, but

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Speaker 3: But you know, I hope they keep him. I really do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just hasn't gone the way that he wants.

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Speaker 1: But he is a good coach.

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Speaker 5: He was a good coach at app State, He was

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Speaker 2: Some sad news bug about your alma mater North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Their bold dreams died yesterday in a loss to Duke,

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Speaker 2: a dramatic loss. Actually Carolina with Bill Belichick finishes right

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Speaker 2: now four and seven now, but the dramatic thirty two

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Speaker 2: to twenty five loss to Duke, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: The Duke had a fake field goal.

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Speaker 2: They were losing by a point about two and a half,

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Speaker 2: It was really a sad way to lose for the

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Speaker 2: tar Heels and four and seven. I was hoping at

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Speaker 2: least they get to a bowl this year. Not happening,

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Speaker 2: you know, And I got to believe, you know, all

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Speaker 2: the rumors that he's going to go to the Giants

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Speaker 2: He's staying in North Carolina, and I think he'll turn

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Speaker 2: it around. But I thought a little bit better, and

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd beat Duke.

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Speaker 3: I really did.

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Speaker 1: Their opportunities, but it's a team.

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Speaker 5: They've had a ton of close losses, have been able

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Speaker 5: to kind of figure out a way to win, and

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Speaker 5: despite these best efforts to improve the team, they just

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Speaker 5: haven't improved enough where they could be on the winning

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Speaker 5: side of the ledger, so they have one more opportunity.

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Speaker 5: They played a robbery game next week against State, and

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Speaker 5: hopefully they can find a.

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Speaker 1: Way to get it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little sad about that.

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Speaker 2: I thought it'd be a little better this year and last,

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Speaker 2: but not least our guy Deon Sanders at Colorado. They

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Speaker 2: got smacked around by Arizona State yesterday forty two to seventeen.

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Speaker 2: So they're three and eight, one and seven in the league.

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Speaker 2: And I think there was a statement that came out

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Speaker 2: earlier this week from Deon saying I'm your guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: give me time, I'll turn it around, you know. I

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Speaker 2: mean it looks like he's almost groveling for his job because,

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Speaker 2: as we mentioned last week, I knew athletic there are

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's any trouble at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's on any sort of hot seat

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Speaker 2: because what he has done for Colorado maybe not so

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Speaker 2: much on the football field, but attendance, merchandise and visibility.

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Speaker 2: He's been on sixty minutes all that games are on TV.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think he's got anything to worry about.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I don't think he has anything in

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Speaker 5: the immediate future to worry about. But every time you lose,

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Speaker 5: you put yourself subject to change. And I think college

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Speaker 5: football has been shook up by the fact that a

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Speaker 5: guy that you would think would have the ultimate job

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Speaker 5: security in James Franklin, he has a three game losing

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Speaker 5: streak and he's bounced despite all of the stuff that

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Speaker 5: he's done. So I don't think anyone can walk around

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Speaker 5: I think it just heightens the urgency to win, and

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Speaker 5: it turns the fan base, which is deeply invested not

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Speaker 5: only emotionally but financially, they expect to win every week.

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Speaker 5: And that's a different client climate that we've been in

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Speaker 5: college football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the difference right now why I think fans

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Speaker 2: are kind of leaning more towards college football, I think

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Speaker 2: than the NFL. In the NFL, there's always that term rebuilding.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna go for the draft pick. I

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Speaker 2: maybe rebuild for another year or two. That's not happening

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Speaker 2: in college anymore, you know, that term rebuildings out the

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Speaker 2: window because they got to believe that within one year

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Speaker 2: you could redo your roster with nil and you better

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Speaker 2: start winning. That's why coaches really are on the hot seat,

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Speaker 2: not so much for the exors and os that they know,

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Speaker 2: not even a recruiting factor going into mom and pop's

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Speaker 2: living room to recruit a kid. It's getting the wallets

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Speaker 2: out there from the alums, you know, get the big

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Speaker 2: businesses in the community to get their checkbooks open, to

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Speaker 2: get players.

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Speaker 3: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it is all about that, but I still

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Speaker 5: say this, and I think people underestimate this part of it.

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Speaker 1: You can have the.

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Speaker 5: Greatest roster with individual players, but not have a great

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Speaker 5: team if they don't work together. And what everyone has

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Speaker 5: been proposing sometimes I think is wrong. And you got

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Speaker 5: to go into port You got to get these people

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Speaker 5: in the portal.

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Speaker 1: This and that.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the players in the portal come with problems,

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Speaker 5: meaning either they come with a desire to have a

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Speaker 5: bigger bag. They are there because they weren't playing in

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Speaker 5: their other place and they want to play, so they're

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Speaker 5: just grundled, or they're simply not good enough. But we

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Speaker 5: have this college football fascination with like you got to

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Speaker 5: get into Porter to port us all all of your issues,

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if that's the case. And I

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Speaker 5: think more people are seeing it's not the quick fix

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Speaker 5: that everyone wants it to be that you can just

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Speaker 5: jump in there and get a couple of new players

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Speaker 5: and everything goes away.

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Speaker 1: You still have to build a team.

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Speaker 5: And for college football coaches who've never had to do

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Speaker 5: it in terms of year to year build a new team,

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Speaker 5: this is a new frontier and we're seeing some people

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Speaker 5: struggle in it.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, the fans don't they're quick to

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Speaker 2: turn on you because I know when Mark Pope was

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Speaker 2: hired as the University of Kentucky basketball coach, they were

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Speaker 2: going they're ready to build a statue. Now about ten

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Speaker 2: days ago Kentucky lost to a six rank Louisville ninety

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Speaker 2: six eighty eight, and that's like a war and the

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Kentucky, and I think the honeymoon is somewhat

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Speaker 2: over for Mark Pope right now with Kentucky. And more

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Speaker 2: than that, you know, I have read that the roster,

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Speaker 2: they're basketball roster, they spend something like twenty two million dollars,

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Speaker 2: so they better win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it's all about. Really. They expect

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Speaker 3: to win and they're paying to win.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's You got to do it, and if

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do it, there's someone else to do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but think about that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the Kentucky fan base was not happy with

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Speaker 5: John Caler Party. John Caler Party had the best roster

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Speaker 5: that you could ever get in terms of recruiting NBA picks,

635
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Speaker 5: and they couldn't win consistently. Because he's playing with a

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Speaker 5: younger team against older teams. They move on from him.

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Speaker 5: Mark Pope comes in, He's supposed to do more. They

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Speaker 5: pony up more money, and he can't even match the

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Speaker 5: level of success that Cali Pari had. It is a

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Speaker 5: hard game that we're in right now. It is a

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Speaker 5: very difficult climbate. But no fan base wants to hear

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Speaker 5: that because they are now paying money and with more

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Speaker 5: money being spent out louder voices, that's what we're seeing.

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Speaker 2: Right I think the unhealthy part of that is that

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Speaker 2: when you're writing a check as an alum, you want

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Speaker 2: to have your say, and if they're not winning, on

647
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Speaker 2: your putting up a check. You can say, wait a minute,

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00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: I pay for this guy in this roster. He's not

649
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: doing it. I want him out. So you have a

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Speaker 2: lot of voices right now. It's not the athletic director,

651
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Speaker 2: it's not the president. It's Joe Blow signing a check,

652
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Speaker 2: who has probably a bigger voice than the athletic director.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: And it makes it hard because coaches are now not

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Speaker 5: only as answering to the ad and administration, chancellor or

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Speaker 5: whatever board of trustees.

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Speaker 1: Now you're answering to donors.

658
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Speaker 5: Bob Bigcheck is now having to say that you have

659
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Speaker 5: to explain to Bob Bigcheck why you're doing certain things

660
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: that Bob Bigcheck doesn't know ball. He just wants to

661
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 5: know the bottom line and winning. If I give a

662
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Speaker 5: million dollars and my team isn't winning, that's a bad investment.

663
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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of that. It changes everything. And

664
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Speaker 5: you're also seeing the trickle down effect with players. Players

665
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: are talking about the messages that they're getting in their

666
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: DMS and all that, not only from fans, but from

667
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Speaker 5: gamblers and those things.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird and wacky time.

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Speaker 3: It really is.

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Speaker 2: Now we talked about one stand that was Dionis talk

671
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: about his son Shauduur because I mentioned in coming into

672
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Speaker 2: this segment that he didn't look like an NFL quarterback. Now,

673
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: normally you wouldn't care much about this game today the

674
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: two and eight Browns traveled to the two and eight

675
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders. But there is a storyline in this game,

676
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Speaker 2: and a big one. The story is shadu or seeing

677
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: this starts for the starts a quarterback for the Browns

678
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: today didn't look like an NFL quarterback last week. I

679
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: don't think he went four to sixteen forty seven yards,

680
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: had an interception in the browns twenty three to sixteen

681
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: loss to the Ravens, and his quarterback rating was that

682
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: I hate to even say this, thirteen point five. And

683
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: the Browns in fact were winning when he went into

684
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: the ball game in the second half after their starting

685
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: quarterback Dylan Gabriel was knocked out of a concussion. So

686
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Speaker 2: what's the problem with Shadoor? Is you going to turn

687
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: it around? I think he'll do well today. I know

688
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: he was sacked twice last week. It was the Ravens

689
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: were coming at him left and right. But I think

690
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Speaker 2: to some extent, maybe he holds the ball too long,

691
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Speaker 2: as as we mentioned, a lot of quarterbacks do that.

692
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Speaker 2: I think, in fact, Joe Burrow was doing that. Maybe

693
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Speaker 2: that's why he was getting hurt. So we'll see what happened.

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Speaker 2: What do you think that he did this week in

695
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: practice knowing that this is going to be his first

696
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Speaker 2: start today.

697
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Speaker 5: Well, he finally took reps because he's the starter. In

698
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: the National Football League, there's this thing and I know

699
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, and I know all the former

700
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: quarterbacks are gonna light up Twitter and they're gonna say, oh, well,

701
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: this is how I did it, and you know, but

702
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Speaker 5: I think it's weird. It is weird to me that

703
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Speaker 5: the National Football League, when everyone is just one play away,

704
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 5: that they refuse to give significant reps to the backup

705
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Speaker 5: player who's only one play away from going into the game.

706
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Speaker 1: So all these quarterbacks take.

707
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Speaker 5: They're all reps hogs, they take all the reps or whatever,

708
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: and then when they go out the game, the backup

709
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: is ill prepared to be able to play. And people

710
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: have said, well that's always been that way. It doesn't

711
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Speaker 5: make it right. We've talked about in the league. There

712
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Speaker 5: being a quarterback development problem. How can you ever develop

713
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Speaker 5: if you don't get reps, and I mean if you

714
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Speaker 5: don't get reps, how do you get better? Like you

715
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Speaker 5: can't just look at the game from AFAR and make

716
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Speaker 5: major improvements to your game without being able to apply

717
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Speaker 5: it in real time. Sure, Door Sanders didn't look great,

718
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Speaker 5: like you talked about whatever he was for for whatever

719
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: passer rating was bad, took two sacks.

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Speaker 1: Just didn't look bad.

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Speaker 5: But you also know who else didn't look bad in

722
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Speaker 5: their first opportunity to play in the National Football League

723
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Speaker 5: and he's going to be a gold jacket guy.

724
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Speaker 1: How about Eli Manning?

725
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Speaker 5: Eli Manning the first time that he ever took place,

726
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: took snaps in a game, three completions on nine attempts

727
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: sixty six yards. I mean, like three for nine is

728
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: not great. Thirty three percent is not a great completion percentage.

729
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: But then he had an opportunity to get better the

730
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Speaker 5: next week and away they go. And I'm not saying

731
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Speaker 5: that Sherd Door Sanders is going to be like what

732
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Speaker 5: Eli Manning's been because they're not the same pedigree in

733
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Speaker 5: terms of first overall pick compared to being a fifth

734
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Speaker 5: round pick. I'm just saying that first start for a

735
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 5: lot of young quarterbacks always looks murky until they settle in,

736
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Speaker 5: until they're able to get reps and then play.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what it looks like this week.

738
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Speaker 5: But I will say this, he has the most pressure

739
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Speaker 5: on him of any young quarterback to make their first start,

740
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Speaker 5: because this is almost like judgment day. This one game

741
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Speaker 5: is going to be judgment day for his supporters and

742
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Speaker 5: his detractives. If he plays well, the supporter is gonna

743
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: be like, see, I told you so. If he doesn't

744
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 5: play well, they gonna say, see I told you so,

745
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: he's not good enough. I've never seen a young quarterback

746
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Speaker 5: face this kind of pressure in their first start.

747
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Speaker 2: You talk about this number one pick in Tennessee, I mean,

748
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: no one even talked about him. Everybody was talking about

749
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: shoulders siders during the draft, after the draft, and even

750
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: when the season started and Tennessee is at the dregs

751
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: of the league right now, and still no one's talking

752
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: about his quarterback play or the team as well. They

753
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: did get rid of the coach. But the point that

754
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: the matter is that there was no hype around him.

755
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: Now.

756
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Speaker 2: I think Sudui says may have been his worst enemy

757
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: at times, but obviously the name Sanders had a lot

758
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: to do with it. His dad as well. But he

759
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: had a great college career. No, you can't knock that

760
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: had a great career prior to Colorado with Jackson State.

761
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Speaker 3: So I still.

762
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Speaker 2: Think that he's going to be not maybe an elite quarterback,

763
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Speaker 2: but he's gonna have a good career in the National

764
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Football League. And I'm really happy that he's playing against

765
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: the team that he could really ball out today. I mean,

766
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Speaker 2: last week, as I said, the Ravens were after him,

767
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: hitting him in every possible way they could.

768
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Speaker 3: Today, as you say, he took the reps during the week.

769
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Speaker 2: But he's playing against the team that obviously not as

770
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Speaker 2: good as the Ravens, and I think he'll do well

771
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Speaker 2: to that.

772
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Speaker 3: I really do. I think they'll win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's a lot.

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Speaker 5: It's tricky, you know, it's tricky to put those things

775
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: on them, right, because the Raiders have heard all week like, oh,

776
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: this is his get right game. He's playing against the

777
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: team that isn't good, But there are a lot of

778
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Speaker 5: prideful veterans on that team. Max Rosby, never White, Jamal Adams,

779
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: and others. They gonna be ready to play and they're

780
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 5: gonna lock it down. I will say, from a structural standpoint,

781
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: the way that they tend to play defense should be

782
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: easy for Shredru Sanders because what they line up in

783
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 5: that's typically what they're playing. The Baltimore Ravens more complexities,

784
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 5: more blitz his more pressure, man de man coverage on

785
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 5: the back end a much tougher deal, particularly when you

786
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 5: haven't had practice against the exotic looks that they've giving you.

787
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Speaker 1: But this is one where he should fare better.

788
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski has to build a game plan around his

789
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 5: talents and away they go.

790
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like this entire.

791
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: Situation has been rocky and funky from the start because

792
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: it doesn't seem like Kevin Stefanski really has a vested interest.

793
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 5: And I'm saying that Kevin Stefanski should be waxing shoulder

794
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 5: standers every time they ask him a question and whatever,

795
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: And maybe the weight of the constant conversation about him

796
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: just wears him now where he doesn't feel like really

797
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 5: talking about him in pressers. But I feel like everyone

798
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 5: could have handled this situation differently, from the coach, the

799
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: front office, and even the quarterback. They all could have

800
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: done this better to make it not so much the

801
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 5: circus that has been from day one, no.

802
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Speaker 3: Doubt about that. But I wish you well are really

803
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: doing I think will do well today. I hope he does.

804
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 3: All right.

805
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Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks on Andy Furman. We have Fox

806
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And really and truly

807
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: he has only interess. We know that it's time as Bucky.

808
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio as Bucky, coming

809
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: right up. It's about twelve minutes before the top of

810
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready,

811
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we are live

812
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And of course, away

813
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Speaker 2: we go. Brandon, are you ready for as Bucky?

814
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm ready. But you know who's more ready

815
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 9: than me? Who's hitting Mighty Mark? He has a question,

816
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 9: Mighty Mark?

817
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: All right, step up, big boy. Okay, here we go.

818
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 10: So my question for you, Bucky is when it comes

819
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 10: to these various NFL teams that are having horrible losing

820
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 10: season right now, does the coach and now I know

821
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 10: movies are just fantasy, so does the coach? Ever, like

822
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 10: stand up and try to inspire the entire team, or

823
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 10: what is the scenario of when they try to get

824
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 10: the team back on track.

825
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 5: I mean they do that on a daily basis, Like

826
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: coaches a stand up there in team meetings, they'll show

827
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: them movie clips, They'll show them inspirational clips. In those things,

828
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: they'll do anything to try and change the mood while

829
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 5: also looking at schematic changes, personnel changes to get the

830
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 5: team back on track. Part of your job is a

831
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 5: job as a coach, is to not only be great

832
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 5: with the x's and o's, but to bring the motivational

833
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: factor because it's a human connection business. Yeah, but when

834
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: you're losing, you're empty. You empty the bucket, you pull

835
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 5: out all the stops. See, you can get your team

836
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 5: back on track.

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Speaker 9: I got I got one for Bucky. I want to know,

838
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 9: with a team like the Raiders, why do teams like

839
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 9: them and the Jets continuously continuously draft quarterbacks before their

840
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 9: offensive line is ready.

841
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, man, Like it's a million

842
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 5: dollar question for every team, Like what comes first to

843
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: chicken or the egg?

844
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Do you get the quarterback?

845
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: Didn't build out the rest of the squad or the

846
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: rest of the squad and the quarterback. Sometimes they've had

847
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 5: good teams and had bad quarterbacks because they haven't invested

848
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 5: in a position. Then they would get a good quarterback

849
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 5: and they don't have the offensive line or the pass catchers.

850
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: It is a very, very difficult thing to do.

851
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 5: But I think the one thing you have to have

852
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: is complete alignment within your organization.

853
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: And I can't say that the Jets.

854
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: And the Raiders for years have had that connection, in

855
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: that direct alignment that you need from top to bottom.

856
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I got one more, I got one more,

857
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 9: I got multiple I could go. I get asked Bucky

858
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 9: all day, all night. I wanted to ask because there's

859
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 9: not a lot of national media has discussed the San

860
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 9: Francisco forty nine ers, you know, kind of in a

861
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 9: wide open NFC. And I know they have injuries. What

862
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 9: do you think their ceiling is? Because their schedule is

863
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 9: relatively easy and brock Birdy came back.

864
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Speaker 4: They put up forty one last week.

865
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Speaker 5: I mean, look, everyone has a tremendous amount of respect

866
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 5: for the Niners and what they can be. The problem is,

867
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 5: the two teams in the division appear to be clearly better.

868
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks and the LA Rams.

869
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 5: So when you're the Niners and you're thinking about no

870
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 5: Nick Bosa, no Fred Warner, Brandon IYK is evidently not

871
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: coming back, you just want to do They have enough

872
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: firepower to get it done. Hats off to them for

873
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 5: being able to ball out and do what they've done.

874
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 5: I just think after a while the injuries catch up

875
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 5: to them where they just don't have enough talent to

876
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 5: go toe to toe with the heavyweights in the NFC.

877
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, I got one more. Have we got some

878
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 9: of that Drake may So? I know he's an MVP candidate.

879
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 9: We get that the Patriots have kind of beaten everyone

880
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 9: they're supposed to beat this year, haven't really besides the Bills.

881
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 9: I guess you could argue the Bills might have been

882
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 9: you know, they were the favorite in that game. Are

883
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 9: you bought in as them being serious Super Bowl contenders

884
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 9: and maybe even more so than the Broncos.

885
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm bought in on them. And the reason why

886
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 5: I'm bought in as the quarterback is playing at a

887
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: level that is MVP worthy. Josh McDaniels done a great

888
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 5: job of bringing him along. They have weapons on the

889
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 5: outside Stefan Diggs talk about Travion Henderson emerging, but the

890
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 5: real reason why the Patriots are the Patriots Mike Rabel.

891
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: Mike Rabels was one of the best coaches in the

892
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 5: league in terms of connecting with players, his tactical strategies,

893
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: what he's able to do to junk up a game

894
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 5: every week. He gives them a chance because they would

895
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 5: do whatever it takes to win, and they have a

896
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: quarterback that camp to him do that.

897
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna go up, Brandon.

898
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back on that question you asked Bucky

899
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: about quarterbacks in the draft and things like that. The

900
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: late great Paul Brown, who founded the Cincinnati Bengals, the

901
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: first ever draft pick in nineteen sixty eight of the

902
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, believe it or not, was an offensive center

903
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: Bob Johnson. So he knew and he always believed that

904
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: what's up front that counts, just like the old TV commercial,

905
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: I believe what's upfront that counts?

906
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: You know.

907
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: He built up that offensive line and then I think

908
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: that got Greg Cook, who was a quarterback. But Bob

909
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: Johnson was the first player ever drafted by the Bengals,

910
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: and he was an offensive center.

911
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: You know you're right, You're right on point with that,

912
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: you really are, all right.

913
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna switch to basketball for a question to Bucket

914
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 2: right now. The NBA, it's a multi billion dollar industry

915
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: and they just received a broadcast deal for over seventy

916
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: six billion with a b for over eleven years. Okay,

917
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: and if they shorten the season, you do exactly that.

918
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: You lose money. You cut down on revenue at the gate,

919
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: you cut down a concession, money, advertising, and a lot more. However,

920
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr says that the NBA season is too long.

921
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 2: What do you think, buck.

922
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 5: Well, they can talk about it being too long for

923
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 5: the players, but the money's the money. And I don't

924
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 5: know much, but I know this about owners. They love money.

925
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 5: So we can talk about all that. They gonna continue

926
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 5: to play these long seasons. We're gonna continue to see

927
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 5: players hurt because the bottom line is the cash, and

928
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 5: no one wants to part with the cash. So we

929
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: could talk about it, but it ain't letting change.

930
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: It less but not least.

931
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: How surprise you, the Minnesota Vikings are four and six.

932
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: What happened to the Vikes?

933
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm surprised they had some warring pains with the quarterback

934
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: in look man like.

935
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: Growth in this league is not consistent.

936
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: It's hard to stay on the uprise where you continue

937
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: to stack great season upon great seasons. So they're having

938
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: a down year, even though they have very talented team.

939
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 5: They just have me never get it right.

940
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: There we go.

941
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna hold off. I want to ask you

942
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: a little bit about the Houston Texans. Will continue with that.

943
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: I guess at the top of the air what happened

944
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: on Thursday night with Buffalo against the Texans. But other

945
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: than that, we got one more big I want to

946
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: go right here. We'll take your phone calls and so

947
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: much more. But one quarterback melted in the spotlight. That

948
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: and so much more. We're right here on Fox Football

949
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: Sunday next.

950
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Stay with us.

951
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: Now, this team looks a lot like the Chiefs. That's

952
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: right right around the corner. Yes it is, and he

953
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks. How many deferman a. We are Fox

954
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: Football Sunday at Fox Puts Radio. We're broadcasting life from

955
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And before I introduce my partner,

956
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks, I want to let you know that be

957
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Speaker 2: sure to abscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

958
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959
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960
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961
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,360
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962
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,920
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963
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964
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: player the media mobile, the one and only my partner

965
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: and friend, Bucky Brooks.

966
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: How are you, buck Man?

967
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm great. What's going on, Irony?

968
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: Everything is wonderful right now. And I want to kind

969
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: of put the calendar back a little bit. And I

970
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: look at Thursday night in the National Football League, which

971
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: began week number twelve, believe it or not, in the

972
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: Football League. But the Buffalo Bills. What's wrong with the Bills?

973
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: Second year in a row. They lose to the Texans

974
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: twenty three to nineteen was the final. Josh Allen was

975
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: sacked their career high eight times. Two I INT's and

976
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: I guess the big play in that game. I'm going

977
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: back a little bit. My memory is not the greatest anymore,

978
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: but the big play in that game that Bills had

979
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: a fourth and one. The Bills, who are losing like

980
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: twenty three to sixteen. I believe that about tim minus

981
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: left the game fourth to one on Houston's twenty one

982
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 2: yard line, and the Bills decide the goldf it, which

983
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: is a pretty good call. However, James Cook gets stopped.

984
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean that that to me was the shocker. Not

985
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: so much that they lost, but James Cook of all people,

986
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: you know, got stopped on that on the fourth down failure,

987
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: and I guess when he went to the sidelines, I mean,

988
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: obviously he wasn't happy. No one was happy about that.

989
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Josh Allen was very frustrated. The cameras were on him

990
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: during the game, but it looked like James Cook was

991
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: just out of gas. I mean, he was out of it.

992
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: Maybe it was the wrong call. It just is doing

993
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: too much work? Is that possible?

994
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 10: Uh?

995
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like it can be possible that you know,

996
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 5: you're doing so much work that you just out of gas.

997
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 5: You don't have it in those moments. You hate to

998
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: see those things happen. No one ever wants that to happen,

999
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 5: but yeah, on occasion, those things can can certainly pop up.

1000
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: Is one of those things where you would like best

1001
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: players to be able to deliver in those moments. But

1002
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: sometimes you just don't have it, you know, sometimes you

1003
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 5: just don't have that to give. Now for the Buffalo Bills,

1004
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 5: you talk about what's the issue. The biggest issue for

1005
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: me when it comes to Buffalo is I don't think

1006
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 5: they're the most They're not the most talented team, so

1007
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: they have to bring their a game each and every week,

1008
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: and unfortunately they're not doing that.

1009
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: That's been the biggest issue.

1010
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 5: Like, they haven't played great and despite his best attempts

1011
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: to be superman, Josh Allen.

1012
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: Can't carry them by himself.

1013
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 5: He needs the help of others, and right now they're

1014
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: just not getting all of that done.

1015
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

1016
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: And when I mentioned the fact that James Cook looked

1017
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 2: like he was out of gas and he was tired,

1018
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: I went back and look at the play sheet, and

1019
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: just right before that fourth and one play, he ran

1020
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: the ball on third down, and that was, according to

1021
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: the stat sheet, was the fourth straight play that he

1022
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: carried the ball.

1023
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: I just think it's too much.

1024
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Look, I see these coach is doing the game plan,

1025
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: and I watched these games and when a runner, when

1026
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: a running back has a big play, more often than not,

1027
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 2: he's getting the ball the next play. I mean, and look,

1028
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: these guys are doing the plays next stand up till

1029
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: one in the morning, and I just sleeping on the couch.

1030
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm a guy that just watches these games on TV.

1031
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Never played the game, right, but I watch it, and

1032
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: I could tell you that if a running back has

1033
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: a big play, more often than not, they're gonna give

1034
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: him the ball in his belly the next play, all right,

1035
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: And I think the defensive guys know that too. That's

1036
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: basically what happened that with James Cook, and that's why

1037
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: he was stopped. Not that much that he was gassed,

1038
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: because you know, sometimes the adrenaline could get you going,

1039
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: but he.

1040
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 3: Had he had four straight carries.

1041
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, really, I mean, maybe were better

1042
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: off with a quarterback sneak on that play.

1043
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: They would be I mean, I do understand that.

1044
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 5: And you kind of expect, you expect Josh Allen to

1045
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 5: be able to find a way to put the ball

1046
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 5: in the best player hands, and they just haven't been

1047
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 5: able to do it like it sometimes it can it

1048
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 5: can be wonky like that, but that's that's where we.

1049
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: Are, right I looked at the statue James Cook run

1050
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 2: for twenty yards, He got a first down on the.

1051
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: Texans thirty two yard line.

1052
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: Then he had a three yard run, then he had

1053
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: a five yard run, and then they had that one

1054
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: yard run to set up the Buffalo fourth and one.

1055
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: All right, and after the third down play, it looked

1056
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: like he was basically ready.

1057
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: To go to the bench.

1058
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: Give him some oxygen, give him a beer, give him anything, right,

1059
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: but don't give him the ball, that's for sure. So

1060
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: there we go and Buffalo right now. I mean, I

1061
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen. You know, if they get bounced

1062
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: out of the playoffs in the first round, whatever it

1063
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: may be, everybody's going to point the finger. As Sean McDermott,

1064
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: I'm glad what you said was true. They're a good team,

1065
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: but they got to bring the a game every game.

1066
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: And honestly, I still believe when a guy when a team.

1067
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: And these are basically kids that the girl men. But

1068
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: they got mindset like kids because they've been spoiled all

1069
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: their life.

1070
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: You know that you played the game, You see the

1071
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: ware they are.

1072
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: When they see a uniform team that's maybe not as strong,

1073
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: they're not going to give one hundred percent. That's just

1074
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: the way it is. It's not a bad thing. It's

1075
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: just normal the way it is. When they see the

1076
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Houston Texans and they saw they reckon, they're not going

1077
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 2: to give out everything. When they see Kansas City, they'll

1078
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: give you one hundred percent. That's what teams do.

1079
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like to say that it's different, and

1080
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 5: I would certainly say that if they watch the tape,

1081
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: they shouldn't have treated to Houston Texans like that. But

1082
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: natural human emotion makes it hard for a team to

1083
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 5: gear up to be at their best for seventeen weeks.

1084
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: What you hope is that the team can in those

1085
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: moments if they're emotionally or not all the way in.

1086
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: That the execution is so good that it doesn't matter.

1087
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 5: But you know, like you, you really on the players

1088
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 5: each and every week to bring your best game to

1089
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 5: lock in and focus. These games matter, particularly in the

1090
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 5: National Football League, more than any other professional sport league

1091
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 5: because it's such a short schedule. Every game has significant

1092
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: consequences and implications on how the season winds up. You

1093
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 5: need to be able to bring it each and every Sunday.

1094
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

1095
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm going to talk about a team that

1096
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: has gone from worse to first. And I'm talking about

1097
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears seven and three. They host the Pittsburgh

1098
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: Stealers today that are six and four. Okay, Aaron Rodgers

1099
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: with the wrist, I don't know. I mean, is he

1100
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: gonna play. He'll probably play, but they say it's broke.

1101
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: But I'm sure he'll play. And it wasn't his throwing hand.

1102
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: So Okay, they're Bears right now. And if you want

1103
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: to look at this, and if you're a Bears fan,

1104
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you this, but it's true. They

1105
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: got five wins when they're trilling in the last two

1106
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: minutes to the fourth quarter, which is amazing. Ben Johnson

1107
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: basically took what he learned in Detroit as Alliance offensive

1108
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: coordinator and he put it into Chicago. Because they're averaging

1109
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: almost one hundred and forty seven yards rushing our yards

1110
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: per game. That's higher than the Lions did last year

1111
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: and they were one hundred and forty six point four.

1112
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: But here's the deal with the Bears right now. So

1113
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: if you're a Bears fan, don't buy your Super Bowl

1114
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: tickets yet, because number one day at the eat. See

1115
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: a schedule in the league thus far. Let's look at

1116
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: their final seven games, Okay, beginning today Steelers six and four,

1117
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: at the Eagles eight and two, at the Packers sixty

1118
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: three and one Browns, that's a gimme, Packers again at

1119
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: the forty nine to seven and four, and on Week

1120
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: eighteen they ended up with the Lions six and four.

1121
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: So it's not an easy road ahead. And maybe I

1122
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if they end up with a losing record.

1123
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?

1124
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: No? I don't think they end up losing a record.

1125
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 5: I think they have come so far that they're going

1126
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 5: to be They're gonna be on it in terms of

1127
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 5: being able to get it done.

1128
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1129
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: Can't they win the division? Will they win a division?

1130
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 5: I don't think they'll win the division. But they're scrappy,

1131
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 5: they're competitive, They've done a really good job of rebuilding

1132
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 5: the culture. And this is what you want to have, man.

1133
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: You want to have meaningful games down the stretch where

1134
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 5: you get a chance to test your team see if

1135
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: your team can be as good as you think that

1136
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 5: they can be.

1137
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: This'd be a huge stress.

1138
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: For them, right and look the turnout, the turnaround of

1139
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: this bull club right now, certainly the schedule has helped,

1140
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: but it's not all about Kayler Williams. Okay, I think

1141
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: that you got to give a hell of a lot

1142
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 2: of credit to Ben Johnson. I mean he turned things

1143
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: around that. I think he turned it around during preseason

1144
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: back in August. I remember reading this story. They were

1145
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: on the training field and he didn't do well. He

1146
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: threw him off the field to get out of here.

1147
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that is a tremendous old school football which.

1148
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 3: You don't see anymore.

1149
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 2: I would have to think that Dan Campbell does something

1150
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: like that, and he probably took that out of the

1151
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell playbook. And I think that players respect that,

1152
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: they expect that, and honestly, there's not much of that

1153
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: anymore in the national football there's too much I think

1154
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: maybe coddling.

1155
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: I really believe that.

1156
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: I think there's too much coddling, and that's why players

1157
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: don't give out one hundred percent because there's no fear factor.

1158
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: I think respect and fear go hand in hand, and

1159
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: we don't see a lot of the fear anymore.

1160
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 5: Well, because I think fear is a short, short lived emotion,

1161
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 5: Like you can't scare people into doing their job. Consistently.

1162
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 5: You can hold the line when it comes to high

1163
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: standards and expectations in those things, but you can't browbeat

1164
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 5: and scare somebody.

1165
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: The end of performing at the level that you want.

1166
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 5: What you have to do in today's time with today's player,

1167
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 5: you got to have a level of connection with them.

1168
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 5: You have to be able to appeal to their sensibilities,

1169
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: appeal to what their vision of themselves and what they

1170
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: want to accomplish is while getting them to buy into

1171
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 5: the team being the best vehicle to help them accomplish

1172
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 5: those things. That takes real conversation, That takes knowing the player,

1173
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: and that takes a lot of time on tasks and

1174
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 5: getting to know the players. And so if you're an

1175
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 5: X and o's coach, you have a tough time in

1176
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 5: today's game because if all you're about are the schinematics

1177
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: and the tactics, that's not what's going to be the

1178
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: key to you succeeding. The key is the connectivity between

1179
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: players and players, players and coaches and coach to coach.

1180
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: You have to spend a lot of time working on

1181
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 5: that to get the onfield product right.

1182
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: And you know what will you said that immediately what

1183
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: came to mind was the coach of the Miami Dolphins.

1184
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: I think he's probably a tremendous action in and oose guy.

1185
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: I think it's a hard time related. I remember what

1186
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: he did in the postgame news conference after the situation

1187
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: he had with his quarterback, I mean with two of

1188
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: the back and forth, and he didn't know what to say.

1189
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: He was like almost stuttering. I mean, I don't think

1190
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 2: he has a great rapport. Maybe I'm wrong.

1191
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 3: I've never been in the locker room with them. I

1192
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on.

1193
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: I just from the distance, I can tell you that

1194
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 2: this guy, to me is a great x OL guy,

1195
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: but he's not much of a communicator, and I think

1196
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: that goes a long way with the lack of success

1197
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: that Dophins have had thus far.

1198
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, the only thing I'll say is the communication. Port

1199
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: don't judge it merely based off the press conference. Sometimes

1200
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: guys are different when they're away from the mic talking

1201
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 5: to the team one on one as a group. So

1202
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying sometimes

1203
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 5: we can't judge him based on that. Because think about

1204
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni was a weirdo behind the mic, but he

1205
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 5: has a way of connecting with his team that exceeds

1206
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 5: anybody's expectations. A lot of it is literally the time

1207
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 5: on task that you spend with the team trying to

1208
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: get the team on the right track.

1209
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell was the same way. What is the deductory

1210
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: press conference he's talked about by getting someone in the knees,

1211
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: things like that. They thought he was crazy. I mean,

1212
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: when Dan Campbell got hired, I mean, you're right about that.

1213
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: I mean, but I just think that McDaniel over there

1214
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: in Miami, I think he's I don't know the personality.

1215
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of those guys. Maybe I'm wrong.

1216
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: When he was in school, he stayed by himself and

1217
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: just read books all the time. He didn't have a

1218
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: lot of friends. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I mean

1219
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: the image I have.

1220
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: Well, he is a smart ylarady.

1221
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: I think he played at Yale, so Divy League stuff

1222
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 5: or whatever is all a part of his makeup in

1223
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: his persona. He just has to make sure that it's

1224
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 5: directed the right way. And said, look, I'll give them credit.

1225
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 5: They're playing a lot harder than many teams expected them

1226
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: to play at this moment. There are a lot of

1227
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 5: people that thought it was over when they got out

1228
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 5: to the slow start. They fired Chris Career to general manager.

1229
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 5: But they've been playing hard. They've been playing hard for him.

1230
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 5: So that's a credit to him, and that's a credit

1231
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: to whatever connection that he has built with them, that

1232
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 5: they want to play hard for him, that they're doing

1233
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 5: everything in their power to win games, and in doing that,

1234
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 5: they're helping him keep his job.

1235
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: All right, now, let me move to the Seattle Seahawks.

1236
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: There's seven to three and they're in Tennessee today at

1237
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: the one of nine Titans. That game is on Fox

1238
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: one o'clock Eastern today. Last week, the Rams beat up

1239
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks. This is a pretty good game twenty

1240
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: one nineteen, but it was the Rams intercepting Seattle quarterbacks

1241
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: Sam Donald not once, not twice.

1242
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: Not three times, four t's.

1243
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: With Sam Donald, And I'm sure a lot of Jet

1244
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: fans are saying, Yeah, that's the guy. That's the guy

1245
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: that we had. I'm glad we don't have that anymore.

1246
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: Donald has ten I t's this year and Seattle abby

1247
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: the Seahawks just like Donald's former team, the Vikings. I

1248
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: gotta believe they look like a Super Bowl contender.

1249
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: Do you agree to that? I think they are.

1250
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: I mean they are, but they got to eliminate the turnovers.

1251
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 5: I think they've had twenty turnovers. Too many giveaways. You

1252
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: can't win the ball, can't win games in down the

1253
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 5: stretch in the postseason if you turn it over.

1254
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: I am worried about Sam Donald.

1255
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 5: The clock straight came midnight and him becoming the Pumpkin

1256
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 5: all over again because he can't find a way to

1257
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: avoid the turnovers. So Seattle Seahk's got to fix some things.

1258
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 5: But I will say this on paper, man, they're loaded.

1259
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: They are.

1260
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 5: They are a very talented team. They play hard, they

1261
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 5: can wreck shop. And between them and the Rams, you

1262
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: talk about two of the best teams, not only in

1263
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 5: the NFC West but in the NFC.

1264
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: They there's no doubt about that. But you know, it's

1265
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: funny you look at the success Seattle's had now and

1266
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: the lack of success Minnesota's had. I think you point

1267
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: the finger to Sam Donald in both cases, right, I mean,

1268
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: he's the guy, but we'll see.

1269
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't.

1270
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 5: I wouldn't necessarily say that I wouldn't say that this

1271
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 5: Sam Donald is the reason why the.

1272
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Vikings aren't succeeding.

1273
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 5: There's some natural growing pains that you have to go

1274
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 5: through with JJ McCarthy as he's.

1275
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Learning how to play and lead.

1276
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 5: Remember he didn't have the benefit of a rookie season,

1277
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 5: so this is his rookie season, part two, because now

1278
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 5: he's playing first exposure to playing in those things. The

1279
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 5: one that got away that hurt them was not necessarily

1280
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: Sam Donald, but it was to have Daniel Jones on

1281
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 5: the practice squad and for him to get away and

1282
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 5: be a starting quarterback in Indianapolis. That is the one

1283
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 5: that he is the person that they were probably banking on. Hey,

1284
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 5: well if we lose, saying we know we can get

1285
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones, that'd be on a cheap price point in

1286
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 5: those things. That's the one that kind of left him

1287
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 5: in alert because without him, when JJ McCarthy got hurt,

1288
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 5: you didn't have a viable backup to be able to

1289
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 5: get it done.

1290
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: Let me talk a little bit about JJ McCarthy if

1291
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: I may, And maybe I'm way off base here, and

1292
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: if you want to smack me around, you can. I'm

1293
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: saying that JJ McCarthy may eventually come to an NFL

1294
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: quarterback and really help the Vikings and do what he's

1295
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: got to do. And certainly he was hurt, so he's

1296
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: coming around. But you draft the guy from a college

1297
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: that there's like no passing whatsoever, and you're going to

1298
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: a team with Justin Jefferson maybe the best receiver in

1299
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: the National Football League. I mean, I think that's just wrong.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you got to get a passing quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and obviously Michigan never passed the football. Don't you agree

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Speaker 2: that it's got to be a problem, then I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree because if that was the case, that

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00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 5: means back in the day that all the quarterbacks in

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Speaker 5: the league would come from Hawaii and Texas Tech. Yeah,

1307
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 5: but I know, I'm just saying, but even now that

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily about the number of reps that you

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00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 5: have throwing in those things. The most important thing for

1310
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Speaker 5: the quarterback accuracy and decision making. J. J. McCarthy is

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Speaker 5: very he's been. He was accurate as a college passer

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Speaker 5: in Michigan. He was a great decision maker because he

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Speaker 5: led his team to drive. You saw him lead his

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Speaker 5: team and make decisions whether it's checking the things in

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Speaker 5: the run game, making smart decisions with the ball, understanding situation,

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Speaker 5: score circumstance, all of that he has that I believe

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Speaker 5: that we don't have enough patience to let him go

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Speaker 5: through it.

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Speaker 1: You talk about the record's their record right now? You

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Speaker 1: said four and six? What are they? Four and eight?

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Speaker 3: Four and six? Minnesota?

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Speaker 5: Four and six? Okay, and he missed a couple of starts.

1323
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Speaker 5: So we're talking about maybe six games into his tenure,

1324
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: we're ready to say.

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Speaker 1: That he can't play. That's what we have is we

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00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: have such a quick hook for these young players. That

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Speaker 1: is a young player.

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Speaker 5: You never can work through stuff because the fan base

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: and everyone is pounding on the coach to replace them,

1330
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 5: but no one has a better option for replacing them.

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Speaker 2: No, you know what, Like I'm part of that's the

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Speaker 2: part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, You're exactly right.

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Speaker 2: You're right on However, I'm going to say this, I

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00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: don't think he was the right guy for Minnesota with

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Speaker 2: a guy like Justin Jefferson. That's all I'm saying, all right,

1337
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: I think that Justin Jefferson deserves better.

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 5: Okay, So who would have been a better guy. So

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00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 5: let's think about when he got picked. So when he

1340
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 5: got picked Kaylen Williams, Jaydeen Daniels, Drake may All off

1341
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 5: the board. All right, so now you have your choice. Okay,

1342
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 5: So now your choice is Michael Pennix, bow Knicks and

1343
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy. So between Michael Pennix, bow Knicks and JJ McCarthy,

1344
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 5: make your case.

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00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is hurt.

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 5: He's been seasoning the injury for the fifth time in

1347
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 5: the last eight years he plays football, so you don't

1348
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 5: want him. Take him out. What's the difference in bow

1349
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 5: Knicks and JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, but bo Knicks. Look what

1351
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: they're doing in Denver. Look what they're doing.

1352
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 5: Really, they have the number one defense in football on

1353
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 5: this what you have more sex than anybody? Like they

1354
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: slogged through a game last week where they got twenty points,

1355
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 5: but man, it was like pulling teeth. It's like going

1356
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 5: to get your wisdom teeth taken out at the dentist.

1357
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 5: Washington playoffics like that's what it is. But they don't

1358
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 5: give you understand. They make you watch it while he's

1359
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 5: in your mouth wrenching and pulling things out.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's like watching them.

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Speaker 5: I just think based on the class of quarterbacks that

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Speaker 5: were available, JJ McCarthy was a vibe oustion because it

1363
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 5: literally came down to don't want JJ McCarthy or bow knicks.

1364
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Speaker 1: They're one and the same if you ask me, they.

1365
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Speaker 2: Won eight in a row. I mean there's seven and two.

1366
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: They won eight in the row. But let me go

1367
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: back to Seattle for just one second.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: Last week was Donald's third career game, third career game

1370
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: with no touchdown, passes and four interceptions, more than any

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Speaker 2: one since the year two thousand, which is a total

1372
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: fifty six games. Maybe it means nothing. Maybe it's a

1373
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: stupid stat. I get it. Maybe it means nothing. And

1374
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: believe it or not, I had no idea that Jackson

1375
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba is the leading receiver in the NFL

1376
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: from I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, he comes, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 5: He's a really good player, or he's another one that

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 5: long Loder Ohio State receives that take the lead by storm.

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Speaker 3: He sure does.

1381
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: Really, and you know you're right because look look at

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: the Ohio State quarterbacks that have done well in the

1383
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: National Football League and they don't do much passing either.

1384
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Speaker 3: I mean they've done more passing.

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Speaker 2: Now than they have in the pass but still, in all,

1386
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: maybe I was way off based on the fact that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the pedigree where you came from doesn't mean

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: that much of a difference when you go to the

1389
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Speaker 2: next level.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it doesn't, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, yeah, I'm not seeing you're wrong,

1392
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Speaker 5: because if you go that based on Ohio State, then

1393
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 5: that would be more in your argument because Justin Fields

1394
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 5: didn't do it.

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01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't.

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01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 5: Had many to have had success coming out Ohio State.

1397
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 5: That made him more to your favorite. That might have

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01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 5: been a point for you if we were in a

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Speaker 5: debate club.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much. All right, he's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Get him on Twitter at Bucket Brooks, at Andy Furman FSR.

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Speaker 2: got the blame game with Brandon at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: this hour. Yes we do, so we'll do that, but

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Speaker 2: right now is it time to bury one NFL team?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was an eighty five yard return touched

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Speaker 2: get into some of this stuff right now, and we

1434
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Speaker 2: talk about maybe the surprising Indianapolis Colts. We talk about

1435
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Speaker 2: so many things right now that are surprising right now

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: But the one thing that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Surprised about, and I guess you may have heard about

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: it too, is the Kansas City Chiefs and their special

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: teams coach. This was kind of a funny story. Dave

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: Tube his remarks directed at President Trump of all people,

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Speaker 2: about the new kickoff rule in the National Football League. Now,

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: I may be mistaken about this, but I think it's

1444
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: the players on the kicking team lineup on the opposing

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01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: forty yard line, while players on the receiving team stand

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Speaker 2: between their own thirty and thirty five yard lines, and

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Speaker 2: they're not allowed to move until the ball lands or

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Speaker 2: hits a return. And this is probably done because they

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Speaker 2: want to have a more frequency of returns. And obviously,

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01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: according to statistics, the NFL is ahead. The twenty twenty

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: five season, they modified its touchback rule, bringing it out

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01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: to the thirty five yard line instead of the thirty

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Speaker 2: all right, and then and then President Trump said he's

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Speaker 2: not happy with that. However, I like what the Special

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Speaker 2: Teams coach and the chiefs said. David Tube. He says

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: that quote, he doesn't even know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know what he's looking at, and now he

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Speaker 2: has no idea what's going on with the kickoff rule.

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Speaker 3: Take that for what it's worth. I hope he hears it.

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Speaker 3: How do you like that?

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that President Trump he gets even involved with this minutia,

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Speaker 2: I really do. But how do you like that Dave

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: Tube coming back out and attacking the president?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear about that one?

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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard about it.

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Speaker 5: But I can understand those guys taking offense to it

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 5: because your Special Teams coach, you work very very hard

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Speaker 5: to keep the kickoff alive, like you don't like outsiders

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Speaker 5: jumping in, particularly outsiders that are uninformed on the process

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Speaker 5: and what they had to do to sustain it.

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Speaker 1: So I can understand two taken offense to that.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean I didn't hear a comeback from the President.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't get to the remark yet, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see what happens there, little well back and forth,

1476
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: a little war action over there like that. So we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about the Chiefs right now, they're surprising eight and

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: two Indye Colts travel to Kansas City and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are five and five right now? What's wrong

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Speaker 3: with this picture? Are the Chiefs ready to miss the

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Speaker 3: playoffs this year? Is that possible? Can they possibly miss

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Speaker 3: the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very possible.

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Speaker 5: I mean they're in a very precarious situation. I won't

1485
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 5: say that this win now everything is a must win,

1486
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 5: but yeah, it's situation is critical. They got some tough

1487
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 5: games on the dock of the head. They have to

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01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 5: be able to get this done. They've given up all

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Speaker 5: their margin for era, and let's be honest, they are

1490
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Speaker 5: not what they've been in the past offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 5: Before it used to be a scatter shot pedestrian offense,

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Speaker 5: but the defense could bail them out. Now the defense

1493
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Speaker 5: has been unable to bail them out in some of

1494
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Speaker 5: these moments.

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Speaker 1: They have to play better all around. But I know this.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid has been down this road before.

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Speaker 5: He understands how the maximize the talent on his squad,

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Speaker 5: they'll play better. I don't know if it'd be good enough, though,

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Speaker 5: for them to continue to.

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Speaker 1: Make the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Look, I would say this perhaps for the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and they told about Travis Kelsey's had a

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: message the other day that he wants to return next year.

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: Does this team now need new young blood? I mean,

1505
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: are they Are they too old? I think that you

1506
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: look at age factors. I think that people say, well,

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers having problems, you know why, Look at

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01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: their defense, look at the secondary.

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Speaker 3: They're old. They got named players, but they're old.

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Speaker 2: And I think when you get to an age factor,

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Speaker 2: you don't play like a twenty one year old when

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Speaker 2: you're thirty four or thirty five.

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Speaker 3: It's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: It is.

1515
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 5: But and they've been trying to replace those guys for

1516
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 5: a while. They've been trying to draft their replacements forever.

1517
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,919
Speaker 5: They haven't hit. So we can talk about them getting older,

1518
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 5: but they're getting older because the young guys haven't materialized.

1519
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 5: They haven't been what they thought that they would be.

1520
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 5: This is one where they're gonna have to fix these issues. Yeah,

1521
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey.

1522
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: Coming back that helped them or hurt them.

1523
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: If he decides to continue to play, it only helps

1524
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 5: him because he has a connection with the quarterback. But

1525
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 5: he's not the fastest, the most gifted playmaker on the

1526
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 5: field right now, but he's reliable because the quarterback knows

1527
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 5: how to play with him.

1528
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: They just have to get better all.

1529
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: Around, right And I'll tell you this much now. They

1530
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: got sauce guard and the cold stew in the backfield.

1531
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: On the defensive side of the ball. They got to

1532
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: get Patrick Mahos in trouble today.

1533
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: They really are.

1534
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: I think they got a great defensive backfield and the

1535
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: lou Ana Rumo I love. I love that louis doing

1536
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: well because he was made the scape gooldon Cincinnati last year.

1537
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: And the defense right now is the worst in the NFL.

1538
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: It really is.

1539
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: And it has nothing to do with lou Anna Rumo.

1540
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: It's all about the players, you know. I don't care

1541
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: who's being the defensive coordinator. They just they don't have

1542
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: the players to get it done. So don't blame lou

1543
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 2: And I would say right now, if the Bengals drop

1544
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the games this year, and that's possible,

1545
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: it is possible. In my mind, they can go oh

1546
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. What happens is Zacht

1547
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: to come back. I mean Zach Taylor. Right now, he's

1548
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: got to be just looking at the ceiling when he's

1549
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: embedded nights saying they're firing coaches left and right. It

1550
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: happened in Tennessee. He was my offensive coordinator. How come

1551
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 2: basically I'm still here. You got to believe that he

1552
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 2: is on a short leash. However, he's got a contract

1553
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: for NEXTDN. The Cincinnati Bengals are really and truly one

1554
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: of those teams that they don't like paying a guy

1555
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 2: for not working. That's gonna be his saving grace if

1556
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: in fact it is.

1557
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good old American way. I wouldn't

1558
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: want to pay anybody do that work. So if you

1559
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: if you work, and I'll pay you, but if not

1560
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: do anything, I'm not giving you any money. I'm okay

1561
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: with that. Look.

1562
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: I'll say this, when it comes to all of that,

1563
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 5: it's just unfortunate. It's unfortunate that they made a decision

1564
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 5: to move on from lou and the defense hasn't been

1565
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 5: up the par But I'll say the whole thing hasn't

1566
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 5: been right since the Super Bowl that they should have won.

1567
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 5: If not for a bad call, they should have won.

1568
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 5: They should have been able to build upon it. Joe

1569
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 5: Burrow has been deemed up too much. We got to

1570
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: figure out how to solve that, and we got to

1571
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 5: figure out a way to be more balanced on offense

1572
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 5: and defense. Defensively, they just got to be I mean,

1573
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 5: can they make sure eleven guys are on the field.

1574
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: Can they line up into proper gaps? Can they just

1575
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 5: play the call at his call from the sideline? Just

1576
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 5: the basic things? Can they tackle? I just want to

1577
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: see the bases get better for Cincinnati on both sides

1578
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 5: of the ball.

1579
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: No, you mentioned saying about both sides of the ball.

1580
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: Now here's the question I have. I think a lot

1581
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: of people are rumbling about this too. They're going very

1582
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: vocal with this. Maybe they spend too much money on

1583
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball and that's why the

1584
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 2: defense is lagging behind.

1585
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 5: I mean they've always done that, but like you have

1586
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 5: to make a decision which side cannot be great at

1587
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: They could be great on offense. You know, if you

1588
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 5: give Joe Burrow exactly what he wanted, which he has

1589
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 5: to two wide receivers someone in the middle. They have

1590
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 5: a decent running back, but yeah, if you give them that,

1591
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 5: they should look like a stellar top five offense that

1592
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 5: puts up enough points where they can just figure out

1593
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 5: a way to play defense with that.

1594
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, And the big question this week was he was

1595
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 2: at practice Joe Burrow was he was out if your

1596
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 2: game when Jacksonville came to Cincinnati. That's when he got

1597
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: hurt with the turf toe and that was like almost

1598
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: two months ago.

1599
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: And he's back now.

1600
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: I got clearance from the medical people, and there's some

1601
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 2: rumors that he might play today. He's not playing today,

1602
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: I guess Joe Flacco, who in fact is hurt as

1603
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 2: well with his shoulder.

1604
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: But Flacco is going to play.

1605
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: And I guess the reason being that Burrow's not going

1606
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: to play today because there's a short turnaround for Thursday night,

1607
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Night in Baltimore. I think they'd rather have him

1608
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: come and be stronger, maybe against the Ravens. Maybe I'm

1609
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: wrong on that. That's just my take on it, and

1610
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: I gotta believe Also, the people were saying, well, they're

1611
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: not making the playoffs, why play him? And here's my

1612
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: thing on this, You're an athlete. Athletes are paid to play.

1613
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: They have a different DNA. They want to play, they

1614
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: don't want to sit. And more than that, the injuries

1615
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 2: are part of the game. You can't have a.

1616
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 3: Guy not played because he might get hurt.

1617
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: Hey, every single Sunday, a guy might get hurt, and

1618
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: you gotta play, don't you agree.

1619
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 3: If he's healthy, he's got to play, and he wants

1620
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: to play.

1621
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just depends on if he can protect himself

1622
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 5: to So it's one thing to say, a he's healthy

1623
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 5: enough to do it, and it's another thing for Joe

1624
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 5: Burrow to say, I want to do it. But the

1625
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 5: frontal frontier is can you protect the player from the player?

1626
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 5: Meaning a every player has the provider and they believe

1627
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 5: that they can get it done, that they're ready to

1628
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 5: make these leaps. And even though I'm a little hurt,

1629
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 5: my eighty percent is better than somebody else's one hundred.

1630
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: That's true. However, Joe Burrows a.

1631
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 5: Franchise, and the last thing you want to do is

1632
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 5: put him out there where he's in a compromise position

1633
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 5: where he can't protect himself from the past rush, he

1634
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 5: can't protect himself from some of the thing the wild

1635
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 5: and wonky things that can happen within the pocket. So

1636
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 5: if he's not right, I want to give him another

1637
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 5: few days to see if he can get better. And

1638
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 5: I want to continue to stretch that out as long

1639
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 5: as I can to make sure that when Joe.

1640
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 1: Burrow plays, he looks like the Joe Burrow that everyone loves.

1641
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 5: You know.

1642
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: And it's funny because there's so much protoba should do.

1643
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: Stand is getting pressure, and I certainly he has, but

1644
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: he hasn't done anything yet really, and he may become

1645
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 2: a great quarterback in the National Football League.

1646
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has a bit of a track rack.

1647
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: He gone to the Super Bowl, but there's so much

1648
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: pressure on him that when he comes back people expect him.

1649
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 3: To take this team to like another level. He's not

1650
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: gonna have.

1651
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he was healthy last year with tremendous numbers

1652
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: and they still didn't make the playoffs. So it's not

1653
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: all about Joe Burrow, right.

1654
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 5: Oh, It's all about Joe Burrow because the quarterback is

1655
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 5: the force multiplier.

1656
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: He's the one that makes everybody's game easy.

1657
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: If he's there, the numbers for Jamar Chase and t

1658
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 5: Higgins skyrocket. If he's there, they're gonna score twenty eight

1659
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 5: plus points per night because he's that good. Now, the

1660
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 5: problem that you have is Joe Burrow has to be

1661
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 5: able to be around, and he hasn't been able to

1662
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 5: be around injuries in those things. Some obviously all those

1663
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 5: things are on his fault, but that's just the reality

1664
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 5: of it. Like his lack of durability has hurt them,

1665
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 5: so they just got to make sure they protect them.

1666
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: They probably can pour more.

1667
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, because we talked about the offense,

1668
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 5: I would say invest more in the offensive.

1669
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: Line to make sure that he's.

1670
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 5: Upright, because even if they continue to add players to

1671
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 5: the defense, the defense is not going to change dramatically

1672
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 5: with a bunch of young players. You got to get

1673
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 5: you need one side of the ball to be great,

1674
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 5: that's the offense, and then figure out a way.

1675
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: To just be good good enough on defense. That's what

1676
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: they have to get to.

1677
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 3: Okay, last, but not least.

1678
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're talking about the Bengals than we are,

1679
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: and you talk about Jamar Chase and he may be,

1680
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: if not the best receiver in football, the number two. Okay,

1681
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson and he and they both went to lsu

1682
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 2: believe it or not, but I would say this, let's

1683
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: talk about he's not playing today because he spit on someone.

1684
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Jalen Ramsey and the stealer game.

1685
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: Last week the most disgusting thing, most really, I don't

1686
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: even want to quote down that. But and I love Jamar.

1687
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: I think he's great, and I lost a little respect

1688
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: for him. Not the loss of the spitting, because that's

1689
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: bad enough, but he didn't he didn't fess up to it.

1690
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: He said he didn't spit on him. And then finally

1691
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 2: some guy had it on tape. You can't you can't

1692
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: hide anymore. Everything is on video, and they saw it

1693
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: on video and he was suspended, and it just bad.

1694
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 3: He refuse to talk to the media. You gott to

1695
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 3: fess up, you got.

1696
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: To say I'm sorry, and in the heat of the emotion,

1697
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: you know I did it, and that's the end of

1698
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 2: the story. But the fact that he didn't fess up

1699
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: to it. What was your take on the whole spitting situation?

1700
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 5: Gross, It's the most vild and disgusting thing that another

1701
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 5: person can do to one another, to spit, particularly like

1702
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 5: man man to spin on to anybody, but in the

1703
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 5: heat of competition. For someone to spit on you, that

1704
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 5: is worth a butt kicking. That is what it's worth.

1705
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 5: And I understand why Jaylen Ramsey's reaction was like that,

1706
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 5: there's no place, no place for that. And for Jamar

1707
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 5: Chase to be able to even think that that's what

1708
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 5: I feel about you, that's your that's in your heart,

1709
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 5: like that's in your soul, Like that is crazy to me.

1710
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: And we saw it.

1711
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 5: The quarterback for Colorado State last night spent on a

1712
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 5: Boise State defender, and he also deserves a tail kicking,

1713
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 5: Like you cannot do that because if that happens, then

1714
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 5: you deserve to get the reaction that.

1715
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: You get from the player like that is oh gross.

1716
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 5: And so yeah, I can never Yeah, I can never

1717
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 5: look at him the same in terms of loving him

1718
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 5: as the player because that act hangs with him.

1719
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, it's gross.

1720
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: And what I fear about that is that when he

1721
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: did that, and he's got a tremendous stage that he's on,

1722
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: people know who he is and the status that he

1723
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: put up, You're going to see high school kids do

1724
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: it because well, Jamar Chase did it, and they're gonna

1725
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: think that's part of the thing, and that's what hurts

1726
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: more than anything else.

1727
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: Don't you agree.

1728
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Speaker 2: I mean, he needs to start a pro he needs

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Speaker 2: to get a PR guy behind him, or an agency

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: or something to kind of maybe do psa commercials, public

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Speaker 2: service announcements. I'm sorry I did it, and please, if

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Speaker 2: you're a young football player, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. I made a mistake that would be

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Speaker 3: tremendous if he could.

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Speaker 5: Don't you agree, I mean, yeah, I mean he has

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Speaker 5: to find a way to make it right after all that.

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Speaker 1: It's just yo. Yeah, not good, Yeah, not good. I know.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked that he did that.

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: who do you blame for all of this? We're gonna

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01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: tell you why, Chris. The blame game is. You're listening

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio Radio all right, little Stevie Wonder

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: with the blame game coming right up right here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Ready about eleven minutes before the top of

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Speaker 2: the hour, he's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman to a

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: lie from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour, which would be eight

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Speaker 2: A on the East Coast, we've got the Swollen Dome himself,

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon and Greg CoA Sol will take you all

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Speaker 2: the way right here on Fox Sports Radio. But right now, Brandon,

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01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: we want to thank you for filling in for Breed today.

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01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: But let's do the blame game.

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01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 3: It's all your fault.

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 8: It's your fault. It is all your fault.

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01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's faults.

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 8: The liar.

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01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's

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01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 3: figure out who to blame.

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01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: Alrighty game, let's know it.

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01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 3: Brandon. Are you ready for the blame game?

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01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: I was born ready. Let's do it.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, let's do it. Go ahead?

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 9: First off, and I apologize again for my laryngitis, But

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 9: don't lie. The bills Thursday night, obviously they got you.

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 9: Josh Allen got sacked almost ten times. I think he

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 9: got sacked eight times. You could say the offensive line

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 9: is to blame. You could say Josh Allen took so

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 9: much time to throw. You could say that they didn't

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 9: give James Cook the ball enough and that Joe Brady

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01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 9: should be at fault. Who do you blame for the

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,520
Speaker 9: bills lack of preparation against that elite Texans defense?

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Speaker 3: Bug?

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I think it has to follow

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: on Sean mcdermoty. He's a head coach. There's the head coach.

1784
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: You're the leader of the team.

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Speaker 5: You're responsible for everything that takes place on your watch.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't look prepared. They looked overmatch. They just

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01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 5: didn't look like a very good football team. And I noticed,

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01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 5: and I've said this, they're not the most talented team.

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 5: So the execution has to be at a high level

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01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 5: after the execution for them is everything, and they just

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 5: didn't bring those two things in the game on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I hope Sean mcdermerst in trouble. I think the player

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: calling was poor. I think that even a schmuck like

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 2: me who watches the game on a couch could tell

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01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: you that James Cook just had too many carries going

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01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: into that.

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Speaker 3: Fourth to one at the end of the game.

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01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, come on, really, I get a guy

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01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: off the bench to get carried a ball, not James Cook.

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Speaker 2: That was the key, right, there was a game. They

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: get the first down, they probably would have won the game.

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01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: So I think the play calling was wrong. It was

1803
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: a panic move. Yeah, he's your best run, he's he's

1804
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,959
Speaker 2: the gold stand the for a running back situation.

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 3: But give the guy a break. You're killing the guy.

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01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: That was the key.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, Well I agree with both of those, both

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01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 9: of those comments.

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Speaker 4: Who's the blame for this?

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01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 9: And this is more of a complex issue that I

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01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 9: think the NFL has been dealing with for a long

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 9: time and I don't think it will ever change. But

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Speaker 9: Jonathan Taylor's having an MVP season, he won't win the MVP.

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 9: I think we all know that. Why won't he win

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 9: the MVP? Why can't non quarterbacks do that? And I

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 9: know that the Offensive Player of the Year is the

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 9: award for that. Now, why can't a running back having

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 9: an historic season like Saquon last year?

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 4: Who's the blame why they won't win MVP?

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 2: Both wards, I'll take this one because Bucket went first

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01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: last time. I think it's quite easy to answer that question.

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01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: So because that you see teams that are successful have

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01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks, teams that don't make the playoffs are the

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: ones that usually are hurting for quarterbacks. So that's how

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01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: valuable that position is and may be the most important

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: position and all of sport really. So yeah, I'm with

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Speaker 2: few of the fact that Jonathan Taylor certainly is an

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,440
Speaker 2: MVP candidate, there's no doubt about that. But the quarterback

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01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: position by itself is the most viable position on the team.

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01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 2: So the best quarterback obviously is the most viable player.

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Speaker 5: I completely disagree with Andy's take, and Andy and his

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 5: cohorts hard to blame that spill that he just gave

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01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 5: that where he made the quarterback out to be John Wayne.

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 5: That's why no one else can win the MVP, awoud

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 5: We have made the quarterback be anything in everything when

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01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 5: it comes to this game. They get all the credit,

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01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 5: and no they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They're some good quarterbacks, but we make them

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Speaker 1: out to be everything.

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Speaker 5: That's why we pay them fifty five million dollars when

1841
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 5: they're not worth it and we regret it later. They

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 5: should award it to the best player not the quarterback

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01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 5: for the best team.

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense.

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01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't think we have time for one more.

1847
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 4: But all I'll say is, Miles Garrett.

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 9: Does he get an MVB vote even though his team sucks?

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01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 1: He should?

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01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: Look, you know you're pushing it with Jonathan Taylor. At

1851
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: least he's on the offensive side of the ball. You know,

1852
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 2: you talk about Garrett as a defensive player.

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01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 3: You know why you're living in a different world.

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01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 5: You really, I mean, give well, if that's the case,

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01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is gonna be our MVP. Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.

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01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 5: I mean, anybody, just throw anybody up there.

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst can get it.

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 3: But you know what, Jalen hurts.

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst can gets it because they win. Anybody who

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01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 1: wins a quarterback.

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01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 3: You know, Daniel Jones will get MVP votes. You know

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 3: he will. No, not my money will he should.

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's the engine that makes it go.

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01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with that, but it's not gonna

1865
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: happen because blame me. Maybe it's my fault. Yes, that's

1866
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: the way it is. All right till next week.

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Speaker 3: We'll see