1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Good luck with the most beautiful game. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Do us prout read a lot? They're up for running 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: a game so smooth, so sweet, splendid. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 3: Six sing just glorious. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 4: Ex procution, guys, all I'm looking for is sixty percent 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 4: effort four thousand percent of the time. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: How shot with that shop of mind? 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Good buddy, And that's why you see nor beautiful tiers. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Look at his movements the most dangerous amount of the planet. 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Nobody picture them. Shut up. 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: I'm trying. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: The wall. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: It's left too. 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: The wide eyed drill pibus, how old Earth pick that happens? 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Wonderful, the soccer betting podcast 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: from the Action Network. My name is Michael lebuff and 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: joining me for this World Cup preview, the first of 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: four World Cup previews that we'll do. 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: This one will be groups ABC and D. 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: Then we'll do EFG and H in a separate podcast, 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: look at player futures in our third podcast, and then 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 4: do a Team USA deep dive in our fourth podcast. 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: Joining me for these are my co host and friends 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 4: Anthony Dbundo and BJ Cunningham. But before I bring them in, 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: just a quick reminder. Wonder Goal is presented by bet 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: three six five, the world's favorite sportsbook brand. Sign up 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: with promo code action to get Bet three six fives 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: exclusive sign up offer in New Jersey and Colorado. Bet 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: one dollar on any game, get two hundred free. All right, 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: let's start with Group A. Seems a logical place to start. 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: Four teams here. Netherlands their odds on minus two to 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: twenty five to win the group. Ecuador are now the 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: second favorite to win at four to one. Senegalf five 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: to one. They drifted a little bit after the Sadiomana 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: injury news and Qatar the hosts are sixteen to one. 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 4: Quick note, we recorded a Group A preview, then Sadiomana 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: got hurt right after we did that, so we are 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: redoing it. The news is out that Mane will likely 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 4: miss a lot of the World Cup after getting hurt 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: with Bayron Munich, which changes everything. Bja, it changes everything. 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: You liked Senegal, now you don't. 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for those who don't know, I had 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: a Senegal five hundred to one ticket that I bet 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: last October that is now dead and it was a 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: fun year. 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: I guess that we got to this point. 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was the way I was going to 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: attack this group is I was going to essentially try 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: and place Senegal after the first match against the Netherlands 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: because they were obviously pretty significant underdogs. We like Netherlands 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: as a team potentially make to the quarterfinals. Semis didn't 52 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: playing much better under Louis van Hall no longer Frank 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Debor in charge, which is a big plus for them. 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: But now I'm going to attack this group a little 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: different way. I think that there's a good hedge opportunity 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: you can do after the. 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: First round of matches. So I really I like guitar 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: in the. 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: First match against Ecuador, and I think it's a horrible 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: spot for Ecuador guitar. For those who don't know, all 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: of their players playing the Katari Stars League, which went 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: on pause on September fourteen, But not only that, all 63 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: of their players have not featured for their club this season, 64 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: so they've been in three different phases of training gearing 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: up for this World Cup on home. So that's a 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: lot of time, a lot of preparation, and a lot 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: of rest. While Ecuador, all of their players are coming 68 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: into Guitar from all over the country and they have 69 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: seven days to prepare for this World Cup. So what 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: I like is a Netherlands guitar dual forecast first second, 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: which is currently sitting up plus six point fifty at 72 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Bet three sixty five. 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: Guitar. 74 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Listen, they're not going to have the talent that any 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: other team is gonna happen the tournament. 76 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Like I'd say, talent wise, they're they're probably one of 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: the worst. 78 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Maybe them are Costa Rica, but they've been playing together 79 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: for a really long time. They you know, their starting 80 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: lineup has over one thousand international caps. Like I said, 81 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: they've been training together forever. They'll be well drilled. They 82 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: typically play out of a five to three to two. 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: So what Ecuador likes to do is get down the 84 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: wings with Stupidan and their other fullbacks and create a 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with crosses into the box. 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: Guitar. Will have plenty of defenders for that. You know. 87 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: They obviously play the United States in the Gold Cup 88 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: two summers ago, and they played them pretty even in 89 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: the semifinals. It wasn't for a late US goal. And 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: now I understand the US played you know, essentially a 91 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: B squad for that lineup, but still it highlights that 92 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: this Katari team is well drilled and they know the 93 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: tactics they want to play. 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: They can sit well, sit deep in a low block, 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: and they do. 96 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: Have a lot of pace going forward on the counter 97 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: attack and can exploit Ecuador for that. So I think 98 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: there's a good opportunity for Netherlands finished first, Gatar to 99 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: finish second, and then after the first round of matches, 100 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: if everything goes according to plan, Guitar pulls off the 101 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: upset Netherlands beats Senegal, you'll have a good hedge opportunity 102 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: on either Senegal or Ecuador potentially in that final match, 103 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: because they play against each other. 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: Generally speaking, I like Ecuador. I think that they're an 105 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: interesting sleeper. Are they going to win the World Cup? No, 106 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: they're like two hundred to one. But I like these 107 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: Cononabile teams generally. The Conmobile qualifying process is so much 108 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: tougher than most of the other ones. You think about 109 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: the European qualifying, you'll have teams like San Marino or 110 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: the Faroe Islands in groups. In South America, it's everybody's 111 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 4: relatively good, and you're going to hostile environments. You're playing 112 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 4: really important games with your national team all the time. 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: There's really no soft part in the calendar because they're 114 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: either playing World Cup qualifying or they're playing Copa America matches, 115 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: and that stuff really really matters to these teams. I 116 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: like Ecuador to be able to handle the weird conditions 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: of this Qatar match. And yeah, I'll stop myself right 118 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 4: now and say, do I trust that this game is 119 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: going to be played on the up and up? I 120 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: can't say it with confidence right like this, They moved 121 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: this match up a day. They moved the entire tournament 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: up a day so Katar could play in their own 123 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: kind of primetime spot on opening match. And you think 124 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: about that, it sounds like a little bit of like 125 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: a little deal. Oh, they just move one match up 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: one day for the host. Like, think about all the 127 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: ecuador fans that then had to change there, their travel 128 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. So if with FIFA's willing to 129 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: do that, who knows how far they're willing to go. 130 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: We all know the circumstances of this World Cup to 131 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: begin with, But in a vacuum, I mean, Ecuador still 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: with all that going on, is the favorite to win 133 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 4: that match. With Senegal now looking a much weaker without Mane, 134 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: the path opens up for Ecuador to maybe nip this group. Like, 135 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: if they can get a three points, getst guitar, they're 136 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: in a really good spot to get through. 137 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 5: Sure they might. 138 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: Play England in the next round, but I'm not as 139 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: high on England. 140 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: As as Bija is. 141 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: I think that they're maybe a little more vulnerable than 142 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 4: the market suggests. And bj will tell you that he 143 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: thinks they're invincible. Football's coming home. But I just I 144 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: think that this team can make a run. However you 145 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: want to play that go right ahead, whether it's tempt 146 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: to advance, to upset and win the group, if you 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: want to play them to make the quarterfinal, semi finals. However, 148 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: I think Ecuador, with Mois's Casado in the middle, his 149 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: two brightoned teammates Sarmiento and at Stupagnan alongside with him, 150 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 4: and a team that's played together for a long time, 151 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 4: you know, headlined by former Everton legend or Valencia top 152 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: at the top, they're going to be tough to deal with. 153 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: Is saying. 154 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: These South American sides always are, they always are cohesive. 155 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 5: There's good chemistry Ecuador. 156 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure everyone knows this, but a lot 157 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 4: of these players come through the independente system, so like 158 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: they're all kind of played together as kids and come 159 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: up through that academy and then they go off to Europe, 160 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: mostly to Brighton, So I trust them. I'm a little 161 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: scared of Qatar's a little scared of FIFA. We all 162 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: should be scared of FIFA. 163 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, one thing I'll say, Michael, is that only 164 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: once in World Cup history has the host country not 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: gotten right, and it was. 166 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: You know, it was a bad team. Yeah, it was 167 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: the only it was South Africa, so bad. But look 168 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: at their group. 169 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Very different circumstances, right, because guitar has never been in 170 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: the World Cup. It's a very small nation, so you know, 171 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: that kind of throw that out the window, but it 172 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: just kind of highlights you know, obviously the two thousand 173 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and two World Cup, all the stuff they did with 174 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: South Korea to get them into the Semis was insane. 175 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, so nefarious stuff seems to happen for the 176 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: host ing right type of Yeah, And that's saying yeah, 177 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: not saying you need to completely buy into that, but 178 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: I just know that in the back of your habit 179 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: that it can happen. 180 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, definitely. 181 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: The host nation thing I think gets a little overblown 182 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: when you think about it, because it's mostly been really 183 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: good football nations that opposed to back then. The one 184 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: that wasn't was South Africa, and then you could say, okay, 185 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: what about Russia. Russia's group in twenty eighteen was Saudi Arabia, 186 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: Egypt and Uruguay, so a little bit a soft schedule. 187 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: I wonder what if the ping pong well speaking of 188 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: FIFA being the farious, if the ping pong Wells were 189 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: a little frozen there. But yeah, I liked Ecuador generally 190 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: in this group. Anthony, you are going a little more choky. Yeah. 191 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: I think the Dutch don't have a ton of problems 192 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: in this group. I think generally coming into this tournament 193 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: we're a little bit low on the Dutch, or at 194 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: least the market is. I think that they're pretty comparable 195 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: on a talent perspective to some of the top teams 196 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: in this tournament. And I think a lot of that 197 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: has to do with the breakout season that Cody Gakpo's 198 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: having at PSV. He's been incredible, one of the best 199 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: young players in Europe, entering that peak age where you'd 200 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: expect him to take the leap, and he has Memphis 201 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: de Pie They've solved their manager problem with Frank Deboorer 202 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: leaving and now Louis von Hall returning, and he I 203 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: don't think he's some elite manager, but he's clearly a 204 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 3: good one. They're in great form coming into this tournament. 205 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: They played really well in the Nations League, dominant in 206 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 3: a lot of ways in the Nation's League. I think 207 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: this Dutch team is underrated. They have a lot of 208 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: really good passers. Virgil van Dyke didn't play the Euros 209 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: last year. He'll be in this tournament. So there's a 210 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 3: lot of reasons to like, you know, this Dutch team, 211 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: and now that senegal loses their best attacker, I think 212 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: Senegal's threat to them is a little. 213 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Bit more muted. 214 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: That being said, I still think Senegal is the second 215 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: best team here whose ideas having a great season at 216 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: Sournitana been excellent forward for them and Smilasar we know 217 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: how dangerous he can be in transition. We've seen him 218 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: you know, in space at Watford and how effective he 219 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: can be, especially in counterattacking. And they have I think 220 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: that clearly the best midfield here with the two Mandy's 221 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: and so I think and Ghanagay so like they have 222 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: a good team, solid in the midfield, solid defensive, legal 223 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: BALI like, there's not a lot of holes in this team, 224 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 3: and therefore I think that they're going to be the 225 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: second team. But I wouldn't be shocked to see, you know, 226 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: a really tight battle for second. 227 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to Group B. 228 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: The Three Lions are minus three hundred favorites to win 229 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: group peas. 230 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: Team in the world according to BJ, which. 231 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Also includes the American team in the world, USA is 232 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: plus fifty five. 233 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: All right, let me uh, I'll read through those again. 234 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: England MIGHTUS three hundred to win the. 235 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: Group USA plus five fifty, Whales six to one, Iran 236 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: sixteen to one. These odds, of course, are off from 237 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: BET three sixty five. 238 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: Before we dumped. 239 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 4: We just dive into this one, I want to say so. 240 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: Last World Cup twenty eighteen in Russia was very chalky. 241 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: In the group stage twenty fourteen, Spain, Italy, England, Portugal 242 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: all were knocked out. Germany finished last in their group, 243 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: England finished last in their group in twenty fourteen. Usually 244 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: there's a shock, right like one team frances I think 245 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 4: at twenty ten, because the team revolted against De Shampster, 246 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: whoever was managing them. 247 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: It's the least things happened, Michael, right, So someone is 248 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: just going to have a dud. 249 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: And most of the time these big favorites England, Argentina, France, Netherlands, whoever, 250 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: they're going to be priced big. To finish at the bottom, 251 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: it's worth taking a shot on one of them. 252 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if England's the one. 253 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: Just because the group doesn't set up. 254 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: I'll have another one later, but I do think there 255 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: is a little bit of value on England to miss 256 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: at eight to one, because look, they should take care 257 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 4: of Iran like that's their opening match. Getting them first 258 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: is a big advantage USA and Wales and basically an 259 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: elimination game. Whoever loses that will play first in Group B. 260 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: But England are just like their style of play with 261 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: Southgate is so makes them so. 262 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: Kind of welcoming to an. 263 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 5: Upset like they get. 264 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: They can lose to. 265 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 5: Wales, they can lose to the Americans. Can they lose 266 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: to a Ran Probably not, But. 267 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: Like the way they set up just doesn't play into 268 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: their strengths. They play too conservatively. We hear all about it. 269 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: There's already all this discourse about Southgate, and there's been 270 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: for basically a tech gade. 271 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: Now feels like, I just don't think they're that impressive. 272 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 4: They're dealing with a bunch of injuries, so bj I know, 273 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: you know, like Anthony said, this England team is basically 274 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: Brazil nineteen ninety four. To you, you think that this 275 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: is the best team ever, But I just don't see it. 276 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's fair, But the reality is is that, 277 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, if England was fully healthy, obviously, if they 278 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: had Reece James, if they had Kyle Walker, you know 279 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: we'd be in ben Chowell, we'd having a different conversation. 280 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: But the reality is is that this England team has 281 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: just as much or the most talent of anybody in 282 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: this tournament. You can make an argument for Brazil, you 283 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: can make an argument for France, but England is right 284 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: up there. You look through their roster, you could say, 285 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: all right, maybe they have a little bit of a 286 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: weakness at this center back pairing. You know, Harry McGuire 287 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: has been incredibly out of form. You know, John Stones 288 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: has kind of been in and out of injuries. But 289 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: they have capable center backs who can pair alongside them, 290 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: who have a ton of experience, and you know, Luke 291 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Shaw is obviously a capable left back, but from that 292 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: point on, from the defense on, I don't think you 293 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: can you can make an argument that England is more 294 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: stacked than anybody else in this tournament. The defensive midfield 295 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: pairing of Declan Rice and probably now Jude Bellingham is 296 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: unbelievably outstanding and is going to be able to dominate 297 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: pretty much anybody in this entire tournament, especially in this group. 298 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: Then you look forward to Kayasako. 299 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Mason Mount who's been incredible form for Chelsea, whoever they 300 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: decide they want to play on the left, whether it 301 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: be Grealish, whether it be rahiem Sterling, and then Harry 302 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Kane is obviously one of the best strikers in the 303 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: world up top. There is so much talent on this 304 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: squad and the reality is Michael, is that yes, they 305 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: do play conservative. They play very slow, they play very intricate, 306 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: They build out from the back, They strangle hold possession. 307 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: They didn't concede in the Euros until the Semis against Denmark. 308 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Like this has been the best defensive team in Europe 309 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: throughout World Cup qualifying. They've only allowed five expected goals 310 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: throughout all of World Cup qualifying. I understand they've been 311 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: in a somewhat of an easy group, but this to 312 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: me is the best team in Europe. And if Europe 313 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: is essentially, you know, essentially the most the second most 314 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: difficult region, you can make an argument for Brazil. Brazil 315 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: is obviously the favorite, but I. 316 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: Love this England team. There is just way too much 317 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: talent on this squad. 318 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: I understand the overhanging, like the media and everything dropting 319 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: England is a big hoopla and everything, but they should 320 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: easily get out of this group, and that sets up 321 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: and they're really in this World Cup. You want to 322 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: be in the bottom half of the bracket like you 323 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be in the top. So they're going 324 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: to set up essentially a second round matchup, but probably 325 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: against Senegal or Ecuador, and then they're gonna have to 326 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: play France, who will talk about in a little bit, 327 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: who I think is very vulnerable as well, and then 328 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the bottom half of that bracket. Of the bottom half, 329 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I mean it's Belgium, Portugal, Orguay or Switzerland. Like the 330 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: path for England here is actually quite good. The only 331 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: hiccup they have really is against France, who again I 332 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: think is very vulnerable. So the path for England here 333 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: is very very good. You know, in terms of this group, 334 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm not laying minus. 335 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Three hundred for them to win this group. I'll just 336 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: bet them individually throughout these matches. 337 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: But this in terms of this group, Michael, You're not 338 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna like this, But I do like Wales to finish. 339 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: At the bottom. 340 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: Where we heard that one before was a complete and 341 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: utter luck. 342 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: Box I mean bail box, but I mean he is 343 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: so cooked like it is. 344 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people in the city of 345 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Philadelphia do not think Gareth Bale's cooking. 346 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: And it doesn't. It doesn't. 347 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: It's this isn't We're not We're not forecasting Whales over 348 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: thirty eight match season. 349 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: Like this is a team that plays. 350 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: Together really well, like they just do well in these 351 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: It's hard for us, you know, it's hard for a 352 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: lot of people. You got to remember, like handicapping a 353 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: tournament is very very different from handicapping, you know, a 354 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: long season. 355 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: So there's there's no there's not talent. They've been luck 356 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: boxing their way through the Euros. They have luck box 357 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: the way through a World qualifying I mean. 358 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: But they got through it all that they did. 359 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: But that's now we're here and they're they're just going 360 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: to be sitting back and they're two low blocks. Their 361 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: midfield right now is going to be Joe Allen and 362 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Ramsey. Joe Allen hasn't played for Swansea yet this season. 363 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Ramsey's completely cooked, I mean against until. 364 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: They played for Wales. Ahead heard you go back to 365 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: the Euros. 366 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Okay, they had one good match against Turkey, who we 367 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: obviously was probably the worst team in the entire tournament. 368 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Outside of that, they got completely dominated in every single 369 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: match they got through against Switzerland and the. 370 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: Michael. 371 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: When we get to this point and you're playing against it, 372 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: there's no way they're going to get through this group. 373 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: And the reason I love them to finish bottom of 374 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: plus thirty three thirty three is I don't really think 375 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: there's that much difference between them and Iran quite honestly, 376 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: because Iran is a well drilled, defensive team that's going 377 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: to sit in a four four two. Obviously, they've had 378 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of possession throughout Asian qualifying, but they are 379 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: very capable. They've been in the last two World Cups. 380 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: They've been in these type of situations where they have 381 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: to sit back in a low block. They're very capable 382 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: of doing so. And they have two really really good 383 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: strikers who can punish teams on the CA. So it's 384 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: really going to come down to the Wales Iran match 385 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: to whether Wales is actually going to finish bottom or 386 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: get third place in this group, because I think United 387 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: States should be a much more significant favorite against Wales 388 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: than they currently are. I mean Wales, I mean they 389 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: luckbox that win against Austria, they luckbox the win against 390 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Ukraine and World Cup qualifying, like they scored early and 391 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: they just said if it is getting dominated. 392 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: Shop just a good tournament team. 393 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: That's a thing, Like it's a thing in these international tournaments, 394 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 4: like chemistry matters. Think about these teams right they they 395 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: play England looks different every two week, every international break. 396 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: There's different players being meshed in. You've got you know 397 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 4: this player is a good for him, I've a Tony's 398 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: out of for him. 399 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: Where you got to switch these guys out. 400 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: There's something to be said about teams that have had 401 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: these you know, consistent groups, and this Wales team is basically. 402 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: Can't keep getting away with this, Michael, you can't keep 403 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: getting away. 404 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 4: They always with it one more time because this is 405 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 4: it for them, right Like this is like we're not 406 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: worried about them, you know, fifteen matches down the line 407 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: where we're just saying can they can they keep doing 408 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: what they've done for three matches, one of. 409 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Which is against Whatus game. 410 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 4: I think that I think this is this is more 411 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: about England missing the group. There's a there's a way 412 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: for England to miss this group, and I think it's 413 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: the pressure is going to be immense on England in 414 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: that England Wales game. 415 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: They Wales can kind of hang. 416 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: Around and almost play that like here he is our 417 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: man Diego Simioni style, Like just just kind of sit 418 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: back and use use Gareth Bale at this age what 419 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: his best at, which is you sit back and let 420 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: him have a counter or you know, click on a 421 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: set piece. That is a viable path to success for 422 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 4: this team, Like very viable in these kind of tournaments 423 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: where there's just chaos and noise and stuff. So rather 424 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: than investing in Wales to you know, do something crazy 425 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: when the group or not, I just think it bleeds 426 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: into the England a miss. Like I think eight to 427 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: one is a good enough number to back it because 428 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: the Welsh team has been together forever. We think that 429 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 4: the US team has some upside, And you just talked about. 430 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: Iran being a little sneaky, So I don't know. 431 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: I think you can look at all the numbers and 432 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 4: you can say, like this team is a luckbox. But 433 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 4: they did in twenty sixteen they qualified for the World 434 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: Cup through playoffs like for this World Cup. 435 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: They got through the group stage in the last Euros. 436 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 4: Like, they know how to play together and they know 437 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: how to play to their strength, So I don't think 438 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: you could just discount. 439 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Them against Switzerland, Italy and Denmark. Wales allowed seven point 440 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: two expected goals and created one point eight in the Euros. 441 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: That was and they lost two of them three matches 442 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: the year, two of them badly, and then lost tide Switzerland. 443 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're a great team. 444 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 4: I'm just like this, this is a team that knows 445 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: how to kind of just punch above their weight in 446 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: these tournaments settings, and the entire country is going to 447 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: be coming over. They're going to be the one team 448 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: that has like actual support coming over it by the way. 449 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 3: So you guys just had a nice little bouhaja there. 450 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: But I think the most interesting thing about this group 451 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: is that nobody can score, right, I mean, what's the 452 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: biggest thing that helped help the underdogs? 453 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: I agree? 454 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: Like so, England's biggest thing is that they have the 455 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: attacking talent, but it doesn't really show necessarily because of 456 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, Southgate sets them up to play with the 457 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: handbreak on. They only play with like two or three 458 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: attackers on the pitch at all times, and that they 459 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 3: can be a little bit disjointed. And really that's been 460 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: the problem for them. You know, I know, Nations League 461 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: is Nations League, who cares, But they played a lot 462 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: of pretty good lineups and they just couldn't generate enough 463 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 3: shots and enough goals and expectacles weren't creating chances. 464 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 5: That's their biggest problem. 465 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: The US men's national team, the biggest question who's playing striker. 466 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: Peppi can't get shots in the Bundesliga, hasn't produced enough 467 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: terms of shots. Jordan p Fock went on a hot 468 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: finishing run in the Bundesliga, but that's not sustainable. Jesus 469 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: Ferrer is their best striker, but he can't finish, So 470 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: they have kind of if you do dan if tim 471 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: waya by the way, underrated, but like they kind of 472 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: don't have a striker situation solved at the moment. That's 473 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: gonna be their biggest question mark at the World Cup. Iran. 474 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: It's kind of just like you said, sit deep and 475 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: long long balls up to Tremi and then sorry fired 476 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: and hope they can do some magic with it and 477 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: hope they win the second ball. And they don't really 478 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: do that well, Like they're not a good attacking team whatsoever. 479 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: They did almost nothing at the World Cup when they 480 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: were there four years ago, and there was an own goal. 481 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: And a penalty. 482 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, there's major question marks that all these attacks. 483 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: So like could one bail or Ramsey moment win it? 484 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: It could and I think that leads creedence to Michael's argument. 485 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: But they are bad. 486 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 3: I mean, but even the players who you need to 487 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: step up here, like BJ mentioned, like Joe Allen and 488 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: Aaron Ramsey and Gareth Bale have not been in form 489 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 3: at all. 490 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: I have not been playing, but they worried before. They 491 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: never are, like they just don't care about their club 492 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: teams at. 493 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 3: This well, Bail had just had a good season at 494 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: Spurs before he had the Great Euro. So I think 495 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: it's like a little bit different here because Bail is 496 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: barely playing and he couldn't even get on the pitch 497 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: until they needed him in the last thirty for LAFC. 498 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: So I think in one way he could be more fresh, 499 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: but he's not playing full nineties. Can he play three 500 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: matches in a week and a half? 501 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: No way. Who's gonna be in golf for Wales. That's 502 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: kind of the biggest problem. 503 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 3: Win red hot Danny Ward. 504 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he hasn't played for Nottingham Forest. He's 505 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: Danny Ward. 506 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: Obviously, he's red hot and they got there's question marks 507 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: like US men's national team with with Turner. I'd prefer 508 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: them to have Turner. 509 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: In the goal. 510 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on in right now though, right that's 511 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: the thing. Yeah, So BET three six five is not 512 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: offering a lowest scoring group. They are offering a highest 513 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: scoring group. This would be the group I think we'll 514 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: have the fewest goals. I think there's goun be a 515 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: lot of one zeros, a lot of one ones, and 516 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: that leads Gretens to a wild final day where one 517 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: weird defluke or deflection could swing this group. I do 518 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: not have a wager that I love in this group, 519 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: so I am not betting anything here necessarily except maybe 520 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: Iran lowest scoring team at twelve to one, I don't 521 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: think they're getting out. So it's three matches. They're going 522 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: to play two very good defenses in the US and England, 523 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: so you know, do they score? 524 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 525 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: Iran Wales also in the middle of the group, so 526 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: it's not like it's the last match where both teams 527 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: just gonna kind of have a. 528 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: Go for it. 529 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: There could still be you know, things on the line. 530 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: But in terms of positioning, I do think England and 531 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: US go through. If you listen to US. We did 532 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: our first World Cup reaction draw. I said US was 533 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: under price to advance. They're now about properly priced, right 534 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: around even money, So I don't have a bet there. 535 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: A reminder, we will have a deep dive on Team 536 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: USA and their chances at this World Cup later. 537 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: All the way to the round of sixteen. 538 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Group C sets up like this. 539 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: Argentina odds on their MINDUS two fifty to win the group, 540 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: Poland plus four to fifty, same price as Mexico. Basically 541 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 4: they're five to one and then Saudi Arabia are twenty 542 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: to one to win. 543 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: This is the most block group of the. 544 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: Thing is like, if you're gonna bet either Mexico or Poland, 545 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: like just bet that first match. They prot each other, right, 546 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: so it's tough. Like mex We know Mexico's reputation is 547 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: like they just get through the group stage. They never 548 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: get eliminated in the group stage. They go to the 549 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 4: round of sixteen. But that was you know, this is 550 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: pro I think this is the least this this Mexico 551 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: roster probably is the least amount of upside of any 552 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: team I've seen in a long time or in a 553 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: World Cup. 554 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 5: Memo Ochoa is still the goalkeeper, which is great. 555 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: He'll put in a great performance again, even though yeah, 556 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: that's just what he always does, That's just what he does. 557 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: I honestly, I have nothing here. I'm a little higher 558 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 4: on Poland, I think than Mexico. My pick would be 559 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: Argentina stomps the group and h Poland gets finally gets 560 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: through and we get to see Robert Louwandowski play some 561 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: knockout stage games. 562 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: For the Mexican team. You know, go through the results, 563 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: like where is the impressive result from Mexico that like 564 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: gets you excited to like bet them in this group 565 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: because if you look through cockiccaff qualifying, Like they got 566 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: beat obviously by Canada in Canada, like the reverse picture 567 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: that was in Mexico, it was a. 568 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: Draw in Canada, completely dominant them on XG. 569 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Obviously the United States dominated them, you know in America, 570 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: and then when we went to the Stadio Atteca, it 571 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: was a pretty nothing game. But you have to say 572 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the United States was the better team there. I mean 573 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: even in a Stadioteca, I mean Mexico is able to 574 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: just create point four x you have eight shots against 575 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: the United States, like you mentioned it, Michael. 576 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: Like this Mexican team, they. 577 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: Have a lot of guys that we've known for a 578 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: long time that are just on the wrong side of thirty, 579 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: like Andre Squerdado, Hector Moreno, Hector Herrera, Raljmenez if he 580 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: even plays in this World Cup. Like they do have 581 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: some talent attacking players like Lozano's a fun attacking guy 582 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: from Napoli. They do have some guys who can cause 583 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: some trouble, but like they're when they have to play against, 584 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, very possession based teams and sit back like 585 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: they have just haven't looked good. You know, in the 586 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: United States has been able to dominate possession against them. 587 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: So in this type of group, when you're playing against Argentina, 588 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: who's one of the biggest possession dominant teams in the 589 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: World Cup, I have a hard time seeing how they're 590 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna get through that match. And like you said, Michael, 591 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: like just if you're gonna bet this, just bet Poland 592 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: or bet Mexico. Like Poland, like we always say, it's 593 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: Robert Lewandowski or nothing. Like, they do have some guys 594 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: around him who can help out, but you know they are, 595 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, they're very lowbal team. It would just kind 596 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: of like play a lot of long balls up the 597 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: Lewandowski you can get guys moving forward. So I have 598 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Poland rated a little like slightly better than Mexico. But 599 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: that's what the odds suggest if you look at you know, 600 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: whether it be dual forecast or the odds to advance, 601 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: like these teams are pretty much a pick them. So yeah, 602 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: like you said, just you can get a better price 603 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: in the money line between one of these two teams 604 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: as far as Saudi Arabia. I mean they much like guitar, 605 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: like they'll have a arrest benefit like they have everybody's 606 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: playing in the Saudi Pro League that went on pause 607 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: on October sixteenth, like they'll be used to the heat 608 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: and Katar, so you can at least make an argument there. 609 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: But the talent is just not there for the Saudi team. 610 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: And they really weren't that good at the last World 611 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: Cup either. And even if you look through World Cup 612 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: qualifying like they were they were good against bad competition, 613 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: but then when they had to play Japan in Australia, 614 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: they really struggled when they weren't able to control possession, 615 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: had to sit in the low block. 616 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: So I don't think we'll see much from the Saudis 617 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: in this. 618 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, so this is the most blah. I don't 619 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: really have a take on this group at all. Argentina 620 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: will probably go through, and I honestly wouldn't be shocked 621 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: if it was Pullander. 622 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: Mexico either, are the second favorites to win their Plust 623 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: five fifty, only behind Brazil. 624 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: Anthony. Anything for you here, Poland Mexico, Argentina, Saudi Arabia. 625 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree that Argentina should roll here if I 626 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: do like a group winner parlay. I don't know what 627 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: books will allow that, but like Argentina and Brazil, feels 628 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: like a good square group winter parlay because I don't 629 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: see either of those teams having a ton of problems 630 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: in their group. I think Mexico is the more likely 631 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: to challenge Argentina. I think from a matchup point of view, 632 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: I like Mexico's goalkeeper better. I like their defense. Poland 633 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: like doesn't really grade out that well either. You know, 634 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: they were really bad their last two international tournaments. It 635 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 3: was Lewandowski or bust, and a lot of times that 636 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: ended up just being busted. Like Bja mentioned, it is 637 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: a lot of just long balls up to Lewandowski and hoping, 638 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 3: and it worked for them in that crazy game against 639 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 3: Sweden when Sweden over committed. But I don't really see 640 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: Mexico making that same mistake. I like Mexico's attackers overall better. 641 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: I am a little bit concerned about Mexico too. Probably 642 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: would have been a fade team in a lot of 643 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: different groups for me, both Mexico and Poland. But like I, 644 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: we could switch like Mexico and Senegal and then I 645 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 3: could just back Ecuador and Senegal to go through. 646 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: But Mexico. 647 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 3: Okay, what we know about the US and Canada when 648 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 3: they've left Cocka CAF, they have not performed that well. 649 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: But there's also just less matches to judge teams out 650 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: of their confederation. So depending on how you feel about 651 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: the US and Canada definitely impacts how you feel about Mexico. 652 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: I think I'm lower on both than you guys are 653 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 3: going into this. Therefore I'm a little bit lower on Mexico. 654 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: But like I said, Poland was nineteenth World Cup qualifying 655 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: and expected goals four and they were eleventh and expected 656 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: goals against and fifty teams, so that's pretty mediocre. And 657 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams who didn't make the World Cup, 658 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: like Austria, like Turkey who had better attacks, and there's 659 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: teams like Albania who are better defensively, so like there's 660 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: some question marks for sure about how good is this 661 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: team really. Croatia was better defensively, switch to in Denmark, Italy, 662 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: France and then of course the big boys, so like 663 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: they're not a great defense. Portugal also better defensively is worse, 664 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: which we'll get into. But I think I like Mexico 665 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: to advance here. You can do a dual forecast about 666 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 3: three six to five Aretina and Mexico to advance, and 667 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: plus one thirty feels a good bet to me because 668 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: you're getting the plus money there. So that's what I'll 669 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: go with for this group. But again I think it 670 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: really I could go either way with Mexico Poland. I 671 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: just trust Mexico because of their success in these tournaments 672 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: more whereas Poland has no history of it and has 673 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: not done anything to show me that they're any different 674 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 3: this time around. 675 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: All Right, Group D is the final group that we 676 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: will talk about on this podcast, and then, of course 677 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: a reminder you can listen to the rest of our 678 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: group previews on part two of our World Cup Preview, 679 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: Part two to four. Group D features France. Odds on 680 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: to win nine is two fifty, Denmark plus two to 681 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: seventy five, Australia's fourteen to one, Tunisia sixteen to one. 682 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: Seems pretty straightforward. I think Denmark is going to be 683 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: tad overvalued just generally in this tournament. I think people 684 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: fell in love with the Danes for good reason and 685 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 4: they paid off with a good run at the Euros. 686 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Just I think that's gonna be on a more of 687 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: a game to game basis. They're twenty eight to one 688 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: to win the whole thing. I think that's a little short. 689 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: BJ. 690 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: You talked about France being a little vulnerable, So I 691 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: wonder if if the play here is, do you just 692 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: go with a Denmark to win the group bet or 693 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: do you or a straight forecast where you can put 694 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: Denmark first in like an exact the box, Denmark to 695 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 4: finish first, France to finish second. 696 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Because I mean it's. 697 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: Hard to imagine Australia who will be you know, well 698 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: organized and play hard and all those Australian stereotypes. But 699 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: you start to see Australia or Tanisa giving too much 700 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: of an issue to these two teams. So another pass 701 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: for me. 702 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 703 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean France, Denmark and Australia are all too 704 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: familiar with each other, right because they were in the 705 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: same group at the twenty eighteen World Cup. And France 706 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: and Denmark have played twice in the Nations League. Again, 707 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, we say I generally say ah whatever to 708 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: the Nations League, but Denmark did be France twice. The 709 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: first match France played a pretty full strength squad. So 710 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: thing is, I mean, I love the dance to win 711 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: this group, you know, a plus two seventy five. The 712 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: reality is is that yes, France has a ton of talent, 713 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: but the way to shops sets up this team you 714 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: saw it in the Euros, is they are incredibly passive. 715 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: They sit back way too much and they basically just 716 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: they send Himbappe and they send Benzma out on the 717 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: on the counter once they win the ball. And that 718 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: works because they're two of the best attacking players in 719 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: the world. 720 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: And that's wonderful. 721 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: But I mean this Denmark team, I mean, Anthony's got 722 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: me just drinking the kool aid here. I mean, they 723 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: are so well drilled at this point, like they've been 724 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: playing together. 725 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: Then this this is something that. 726 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that really matters in this tournament, 727 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: is that they have been playing together. This corps has 728 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: been playing together for so long and they know exactly 729 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: what they want to do. Tackley, they're an outstanding pressing team. 730 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: They led the Euros with fifty six high turnovers like 731 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: pass per defensive action of twelve point nine that was 732 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: fifth best in the tournament and obviously, you know, the 733 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: circumstances that happened with Denmark at the Euros is you know, 734 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: we're all too familiar with it. 735 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: Obviously they're over to coome those things. 736 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: But Christian Erickson obviously is back and he is very 737 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: very key for this team in terms of progressing. And 738 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: this team is really really good defensively, like they throughout 739 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: World Cup qualifying in the Euros the only allowed point 740 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: eighty eight expectacles for ninety minutes. Only England and Spain 741 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: was better throughout all of that. In Europe. They have 742 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: an experienced goalkeeper in Casper Schmichael whoever they decide to 743 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: go with a center back pairing and Andres Christiansen has 744 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: been a little bit injured, or Joachim Anderson or Simone 745 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: Kier all really experienced, great defenders. They have outstanding fullbacks 746 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: and Melee who's playing for Atlanta, and Christiansen who's having 747 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: an outstanding season that Leeds who can get forward and 748 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: punished teams down the wings. And then I mean in 749 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: the midfield, like in terms of teams from that, you know, 750 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: step below. 751 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: All of the favorites. 752 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna find a better midfield maybe Croatia, 753 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: but in this tournament than Denmark with Erickson tor Berg 754 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: and Thomas Delaney who have also been playing together forever 755 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: and are very well drilled. The only argument you can 756 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: make against Denmark I think is their attack leaves a 757 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: little bit to be desired, right. I mean, Casper Dolberg 758 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: has been in great form for Sevilla, miss mckel damscard 759 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: has made him to Brentford but hasn't really played that much, 760 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: and you know Scott Olsen is playing in the Danish 761 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: super League. 762 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: But I mean again, they're very familiar with France. They 763 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: know how to beat them. 764 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, you could obviously say, all right, well you 765 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: can just take Denmark on the money line at plus 766 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: three twenty against against France, but you know, at plus 767 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: two seventy five, you're also leaving in some type of 768 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: scenarios where France potentially drops points against Australia or Tunisia, 769 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: who are two well drilled sides who are going to 770 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: sit in low blocks, and you know France might not 771 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: be able to break them down. France is obviously dealing 772 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: with some injuries, you know, Paul Pogba and Nicola Conte 773 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: are out. 774 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 2: But I think that's honestly a. 775 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Benefit for them because I think Kameavinga and Chiu Mani 776 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: are just better. 777 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: At this point and they're career better for France. 778 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Plus, you know, defensively, we'll see who France decides to 779 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: go with the center back pairing. You know Vane, I 780 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: think it was out there that he is now healthy 781 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: enough to play in the World Cup. But they obviously 782 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: have Williams sleeve by, the best defender in the Premier League, 783 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: and you know, Coon Day and bunch of different defenders. 784 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: So France is all the talent in the world. Like 785 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: that's not an argument here. 786 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: But you've seen their results since that twenty eighteen World Cup, 787 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: Like they had some questionable results when they were in 788 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: the obviously they lost to Switzerland in the round of 789 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: sixteen in the Euros, Like you look through World Cup 790 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: qualifying and euro qualifying, like they had a couple of 791 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: bad performances against Turkey. Like there's just something about this 792 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: French team that just leaves a lot to be desired 793 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: and really doesn't make me excited to bet them as 794 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: a favorite here. So I really do like Denmark at 795 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: plus two seventy five, I'm drinking the kool aid. This 796 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: is the team that's been playing together forever, well drilled. 797 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: I love the dance. 798 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: You j forgot to mention the curse, right, I forgot. 799 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: Two thousand and six, Italy won the World Cup. They 800 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: finished last in the group in twenty ten. Twenty ten, 801 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: Spain won the World Cup. They finished third in the 802 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: group in twenty fourteen and failed to qualify in twenty fourteen. 803 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: Germany won the World Cup. They failed to qualify in 804 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. And it makes a lot of sense, right, 805 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: teams going cycles. I think this France team is a 806 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: little bit less vulnerable to that because those Spain and 807 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: Germany teams were so much the peak end of a 808 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: golden generation for those clubs. You know, you think of 809 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: the the Iniesta's, the David Villas, and to a lesser extent, 810 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: like the Chabvis. 811 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 2: Of the world. 812 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: And then you get into twenty fourteen with Germany with 813 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: Schweinsteiger and being at the end of kind of that 814 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: run with a mere self Closa as well, and then 815 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: they had all the defensive issues that came with that 816 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: Boa tang kind of becoming washed. This is a little 817 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: bit less of a worry because France just has insane depth. 818 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean you're like, okay, go back and look at 819 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: who started in the World Cup for that French team. 820 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, shoot, Contes out, Pogmas out, the tweety's washed. 821 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, that's a problem. And you look at 822 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: the defense campembe um Titi you're like, oh shit, like 823 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: Francis Cook. Then you're like you look at their team 824 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, they have really and too many 825 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: Oh okay, they'll be okay, Like that's the reality of 826 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: this French team having so much depth. 827 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: But I agree with BJ. I was selling France at 828 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: the Euros. 829 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: I thought they were the favorites and I I was 830 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: never really buying that. They think they were too vulnerable 831 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: to variants. The way they play, and it's similar to England. 832 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: You know, you're you're setting your team up with almost 833 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 3: no tactics. To sean, who's better out of possession France 834 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: or Denmark. Denmark by one hundred miles. They press better, 835 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 3: they work that, you know, they take away space better, 836 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: they do more to win the ball back. Now the 837 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: biggest concern with Denmark to win the group. I'm still 838 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: taking a shot at Plussony five. The scary thing here 839 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: is that, okay, what if France and Denmark just kind 840 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: of draw, which is very possible. Who do I trust 841 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 3: to win my more against these bad teams? Well, let's 842 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: not pretend that I love Joni's win Scove and Aavagard 843 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: and don't forget Martin Braithwaite, but like Ibape and Benzema 844 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: could just like dominate Australia who looks pretty washed. So 845 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 3: that is the concern. But I'm still taking Denmark plus 846 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: useeventy five. BJ mentioned it. They were actually the first 847 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: team and you're up to qualify for the World Cup. 848 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: They won their first eight matches, the Golden into those 849 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 3: matches twenty seven to zero. This is an awesome team. 850 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 3: They were good with without Ericson. You throw him in 851 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: the mix, makes them a little better on set pieces, 852 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: maybe gives him a little more attack. Mela is providing 853 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 3: a ton of the crossing with and they have some 854 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 3: guys who are good in the air. Dolberg good on 855 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: set pieces, so they have some pieces. I just I 856 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: just worry that they run out of firepower at a 857 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: certain point. But again, Hoiberg, Delaney, Rickson, Damns guard like 858 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: they have so many good passers and there's a lot 859 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: to like about this in our team once again, and 860 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: you know, there's not a world where they win this 861 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: group and then they get a pretty favorable draw against 862 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: Mexico or Poland in the in the next round, they 863 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 3: could get through. 864 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: And I think they're very live if they get second 865 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: and draw Argentina. 866 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: I think the way I played Denmark is you mentioned 867 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 4: like group winner Parlays if you're looking for like a 868 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: price to put in there, like to if it's like 869 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: a group winner around Robin, you want a price in 870 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: there or two to kind of increase your your payout. 871 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 4: They'd be one of them, and we'll talk about the 872 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 4: other ones of course in part two. 873 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 3: There's any chance of either of these other two teams 874 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: getting through. 875 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, you know, make sure 876 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: to tune into our live show throughout the World Cup 877 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: because we'll probably go into more depth with Australia and Tanisian. 878 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's going to be better to 879 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 1: either fade them or maybe take them on an individual 880 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: match basis. If I had to bet either these two 881 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: teams or anything in this group, I would probably potentially 882 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: bet Australia to finish last because they are a little 883 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: bit more. 884 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: Favored to finish the last in Tannisian. 885 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: I really don't think there's much difference between these two teams, 886 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: but we'll get into that. 887 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: More on our live show, so make sure to tune 888 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: in every. 889 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: Single Australia's age profile. 890 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Looks concerning and Tanisia it does have like good defensive players, 891 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: like you know, security is like one of the best, 892 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: like pressing like engine room midfielders in the Bundesliga, Like 893 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: he could just completely dominate the match against Australia and 894 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: then you know you're looking at Australia finishing bottom. But 895 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: I will say that Australia gave France a heck of 896 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: a run at the last World Cup and if you 897 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: look at the expected goals, it was actually pretty even. 898 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: But again, like Anthony said, the age profile for Australia, it's. 899 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: Just not there, like they just just don't have that 900 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: much talent. 901 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful, bald headed Aaron moy Yep, gonna be dominating. 902 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: Its going to be. 903 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: Dominating the middle of the park. 904 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: All right. 905 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 4: That'll do it for part one of our World Cup 906 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: group previews for BJ cunninghand for Anthony the Bundo Michael 907 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 4: Leboff reminding you that Wonder Goal is presented by Bet 908 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: three six five, the world's favorite sportsbook brand. 909 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 5: Sign up with Promo code Action. 910 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: To get betfree six fives exclusive sign up offer in 911 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 4: New Jersey and Colorado. 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