Speaker 1: Lebron is one of those dudes who believes he's up
Speaker 1: here and folks, particularly in the media, are down here.
Speaker 1: There are exceptions, you know, in moments that he needs others,
Speaker 1: but that's who he is. Cool.
Speaker 2: Lebron has a show called The Shop.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, the Rich Paul's the Maverick Carters
Speaker 1: came up to me, gotta have you on, Gotta have
Speaker 1: you on? I said, simple and playing, no problem only
Speaker 1: in one condition two conditions. I'm sorry, Lebron must be
Speaker 1: there because there are times where the Shop was heir
Speaker 1: that Lebron wasn't in attendance.
Speaker 2: I said, I show up.
Speaker 1: Lebron has to be there number one and number two.
Speaker 1: No editing, don't edit shit out, cliff note stuff, clip things,
Speaker 1: cut it out, Nah, let the public see. I know
Speaker 1: if I told him to come off first take, he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna want to do that because he've viewsed that
Speaker 1: as benefiting me. I know that if I wanted him
Speaker 1: to come on this podcast, he viewed that as benefiting me.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I offered to come on his spot, name the time
Speaker 1: and place, and I'll show up by my damn self.
Speaker 1: I was never taken up on that offer, because you see,
Speaker 1: it's real easy to talk that talk like you got
Speaker 1: all the facts when I'm not there to respond. It's
Speaker 1: another thing entirely if I'm near to refute all the
Speaker 1: bullshit coming out your mouth. But this is what he does,
Speaker 1: It's what he's always done. And then he looks at
Speaker 1: everybody else say this, Steve d Man, please whatever, whatever?
Speaker 1: Why do I take this so seriously because you got
Speaker 1: cats out there trying to give the impression that I
Speaker 1: come after people's families. I need y'all a pause for
Speaker 1: one second, and I just need y'all to think I'm.
Speaker 2: Just talking to the professional athletes out there. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna even mention any names.
Speaker 1: Who have rallied to the support of Lebron like he's
Speaker 1: this big victim. They are owners, there are general managers,
Speaker 1: there are coaches, there are other players and other sports.
Speaker 2: What have you.
Speaker 1: Nepotism exists in every form of business. We can muster
Speaker 1: in our minds.
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1: But when have you seen someone demand that the public's
Speaker 1: down while somebody has lifted up their offspring before it
Speaker 1: was earned. When has that happened? I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Brownie now and what we're seeing. I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about Bronnie from my mothergo or whatever. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about in general, what the whole spectrum before he bounced
Speaker 1: the ball, what we saw, what we witnessed lebron doing
Speaker 1: and manipulating. Tell me when we've seen somebody do that
Speaker 1: for someone who was universally recognized as not necessarily ready yet,
Speaker 1: not that he wouldn't be, but not necessarily ready yet.
Speaker 2: That's what he asked of us.
Speaker 1: So I again was talking about Dad as in YO, he's.
Speaker 2: In public eye.
Speaker 1: Don't expose him like this to us because we got
Speaker 1: a job to do.
Speaker 2: Don't do that, That's all.
Speaker 1: I wasn't the one that brought up the legitimacy of
Speaker 1: his McDonald's all American appearance on the roster. Kenji Perkins
Speaker 1: did that. Numerous people pointed to other folks in high
Speaker 1: school basketball at the time, and they were questioning their worthiness.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. We had the heart ailment. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hope he's okay. We decided to pass
Speaker 1: up staying at USC and turn pro cool. When Opening
Speaker 1: Night took place in the Griffies were intended. I was
Speaker 1: in Crypto dot com rena standing clapping. All of that
Speaker 1: got ignored. Why didn't get ignored, ladies and gentlemen, because Lebron.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about the problem that Lebron had about his son.
Speaker 1: It was Lebron having a problem and finally finding an
Speaker 1: excuse to do what he always wanted to do, which
Speaker 1: was confront me in an unfortunate and public platform. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as I want to go
Speaker 1: in saying how weak that stuff is. In terms of
Speaker 1: how he confronted me, I would have waited. I got
Speaker 1: nothing to say to him now. You know, we'll probably
Speaker 1: never speak in life again. But if he wanted, you know,
Speaker 1: I wish he had the shop. I wish he invited
Speaker 1: me on, not my platform, his platform. You can't defend
Speaker 1: the stuff that he's done. You have no idea, But
Speaker 1: he knows. I know we want to go there. Let's
Speaker 1: go there, slithering and just through stuff and always with
Speaker 1: the two faced nods up ooh.
Speaker 2: Y'all won't know the half y'all don't know.
Speaker 1: So when he went on Pat McAfee's show earlier today,
Speaker 1: it was no surprise. The show that comes on after
Speaker 1: first take the show that stars me. I know that
Speaker 1: you got a new podcast coming out with Steve Nash.
Speaker 1: No surprise there, JJ Redick, Steve Nash, no surprise, got
Speaker 1: the podcast coming out. Definitely want to promote that basketball
Speaker 1: podcast and we should watch it. We should learn because
Speaker 1: Lebron knows more basketball than most people forgot. Just like
Speaker 1: he said to Pat McAfee, his mind, he thinks the game.
Speaker 1: Most of these people rely on their athleticism and their
Speaker 1: talents and their skill. He relies on his brain. He's
Speaker 1: absolutely right, and he knows basketball backwards and forwards. That
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with how you've treated people. That
Speaker 1: has nothing to do to the things that you've said.
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with you confronting me about
Speaker 1: doing my job. And everybody wants to look at and say,
Speaker 1: as a father's a father's a father? Because I said
Speaker 1: as a father, I stand by that, not because he's
Speaker 1: Bronnie's father.
Speaker 2: I stand by it.
Speaker 1: Because he was the one putting everything on public display.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to know that he didn't care about
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry. We did not have to know.
Speaker 2: That he.
Speaker 1: Was willing to go someplace else practically for free. We
Speaker 1: did not have to know that it was not about
Speaker 1: the money. We did not have to hear him say
Speaker 1: you want me draft Bronnie. We did not have to
Speaker 1: hear him say, my son is better to have the
Speaker 1: players or some of the players in the NBA right
Speaker 1: now before he ever played an NBA game.
Speaker 2: You did that. That was lebron James who did that.
Speaker 1: He wasn't asked that, He wasn't asked his level of
Speaker 1: culpability in all of this.
Speaker 2: He goes on there and he talks, man cool, I
Speaker 2: got it. I got it. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: There's really not much else to say other than this,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, It's very important that you understand what.
Speaker 2: I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: To me anyway. I'm not a liar. I might not
Speaker 1: like what I say. Every truth ain't meant to be told,
Speaker 1: but I don't go into airwaves and lie. I did
Speaker 1: not know we were being videoed at courtside. He was
Speaker 1: walking out of a timeout. I did not know initially
Speaker 1: that after he finished getting in my face he looked.
Speaker 2: Right up at the camera, go back and look at
Speaker 2: the angle. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: When I went on the air the next morning, we
Speaker 1: had a morning meeting, at which time I said to
Speaker 1: the staff at first tape, I don't feel like talking
Speaker 1: about this, And then minutes later they said, it's the
Speaker 1: number one trending topic in sports. You have to talk
Speaker 1: about it. The bosses, you have to talk about it.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you ain't talking about it?
Speaker 2: This is what you do. This is sports.
Speaker 1: This is a sports story and it directly evolves you.
Speaker 1: What you mean you ain't talking about it? So he
Speaker 1: might think I'm salivating and I was happy to discuss it.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy to discuss the dude getting in my
Speaker 1: face telling me stop shitting on his son. I'm not
Speaker 1: happy about that.
Speaker 2: I think Savannah is the first lady of the.
Speaker 1: I think she's an absolutely wonderful human being that has
Speaker 1: always been nothing but kind to me.
Speaker 2: You think I like the thought of pissing her off.
Speaker 2: Gloria James.
Speaker 1: An absolutely wonderful person that I have seen over the
Speaker 1: years and has never been anything but the most pleasant
Speaker 1: person in the world to me. I don't like the
Speaker 1: thought of upsetting her or anybody that cares about him.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to hurt Bronnie. I'm rooting for
Speaker 1: the kid but the news is the news, the sport
Speaker 1: is the sport, and the story was the story. So
Speaker 1: Lebron can be say anything he wants and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about him or whatever case. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: continue to talk to you about.
Speaker 2: About you, bro.
Speaker 1: When you retire, let's see how much I talk to
Speaker 1: you about you, then you won't matter much. Promise you,
Speaker 1: I won't be talking about you much when you stop playing.
Speaker 1: As long as you're playing, I'm gonna talk about you
Speaker 1: because that's my job, and I'm gonna be very objective
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: You deserve praise and give it to you. You deserve criticism.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give that to but at least I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell the truth instead of lying. Like Lebron, James
Speaker 1: has been lying, using his son as an excuse to
Speaker 1: say what he said to me. He has a problem
Speaker 1: with me, he knows good and damn well. I wasn't
Speaker 1: shitting on his son. He has a problem, and instead
Speaker 1: of talking to me about it, he came at me
Speaker 1: when I wasn't in a position to respond, and then
Speaker 1: when he wanted to respond and elaborate, he went to
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. Major props to Pat McAfee again forgetting it.
Speaker 1: Anybody would have got damn it, you did it. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with Pat McAfee whatsoever what he did
Speaker 1: with this interview. I'm not insulted or offended or betrayed
Speaker 1: by a teammate.
Speaker 2: Or anything like that. That's nonsense. He did the right thing.
Speaker 2: Lebron is the culprit here, but far be it for
Speaker 2: me to say that about King James. Kings don't get blames.
Speaker 2: I guess that's why he's not my king.