Speaker 1: Well, fan Ritos, and welcome to another episode of How
Speaker 1: Rude tan Ritos. Today, we are thrilled to have David
Speaker 1: Lipper on the podcast with us. You'll recognize David from
Speaker 1: his role as Viper in season eight A Full House,
Speaker 1: where he played a cool and confident guitar player in
Speaker 1: Jesse's band who immediately caught DJ's attention. We can't wait
Speaker 1: to talk to him about his time on Full House
Speaker 1: and beyond.
Speaker 2: So welcome David.
Speaker 3: Yay.
Speaker 4: Oh well, David, welcome to the show. We just sort
Speaker 4: of jump right in with our interviews. We don't warn
Speaker 4: our guests because we like to surprise attack people. But no,
Speaker 4: we just jump right in to the interview. So we
Speaker 4: are so happy to have you here. I know that
Speaker 4: we you know, we're reviewing the show, so we have
Speaker 4: made it to what season three, episode nine, so we
Speaker 4: are we have not met we haven't met Bert yet.
Speaker 3: But the original full House.
Speaker 2: The original full House.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going back and watching the original full House
Speaker 4: because we've never watched it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a true no, not as an adult, we did,
Speaker 1: but we did see you. We we've been reunited more
Speaker 1: recently on Fuller House because you came back the high
Speaker 1: school reunion episode.
Speaker 2: Much fun, so much fun. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Viper and Nelson got to uh got to square
Speaker 1: off again with Nelson.
Speaker 4: Yes, yep, yeah, House Sparks was the new Nelson. Now
Speaker 4: for those that I mean, since we haven't made it
Speaker 4: to season eight in Viper's appearance yet, let's give a
Speaker 4: little background as to Viper. And he was in Jesse's band, right,
Speaker 4: He was like the new young hot dude in Jesse's band, which,
Speaker 4: of course Jesse was a little you know, a little
Speaker 4: threatened by.
Speaker 2: And then and then.
Speaker 3: Then monkey Puppets, by the way, was the name of
Speaker 3: the what was it again, Hot Daddy and the Monkey Puppets.
Speaker 3: And I was a monkey puppet.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: We've all had to be a monkey puppet at one
Speaker 4: point in our lives.
Speaker 2: Wow. But you didn't have to dress as a monkey puppet, luckily, No.
Speaker 3: I did have to wear leader hose in one episode.
Speaker 3: If you remember, I do, I do?
Speaker 1: I remember your your sleeveless shirts, like they always had
Speaker 1: you in sleeveless shirts.
Speaker 3: They like to show the muscles.
Speaker 2: Yes, he it was a gun show every week. I
Speaker 2: loved it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, it was so you you know, he
Speaker 4: was the new confident dude in the band. And of
Speaker 4: course at this point season eight, DJ was, you know,
Speaker 4: senior in high school, graduating high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they the Viper. DJ was there.
Speaker 3: Welcome back Carter band as a kid, and John Travolta's
Speaker 3: Finny Barberino right of that character. So I tried to
Speaker 3: bring some of that into into Viper and kind of
Speaker 3: some rocker version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, what was how did you?
Speaker 4: I mean, were you were you close to a monkey
Speaker 4: puppet in real life or were you were you like
Speaker 4: totally the opposite of a monkey puppet, like like.
Speaker 3: A music guy. I was all through high school, I
Speaker 3: was a singer.
Speaker 2: I mean, with hair like that, you had to be David.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, now that's where the hair requirement and I
Speaker 3: you know, we peaked, I would say when I was
Speaker 3: about eighteen and we won the Battle of the Bands
Speaker 3: at Montreal. It was a big deal. But what happened
Speaker 3: is I went off to college and I was a
Speaker 3: musical theater major, which is very strange.
Speaker 2: Because I'm a theater kid myself. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was that had kid who played varsity hockey
Speaker 3: and also was a musical.
Speaker 2: Theater guy, I love rad. It's so rad like and
Speaker 2: I just said rad, but yeah, it's like that's I
Speaker 2: love that. I love people that are like, no, I
Speaker 2: can do. I'm like sports and creative.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care. I don't fit in with either
Speaker 3: of you groups. So what I'm saying, I'm going to dance.
Speaker 3: I was in chorus line in yellow tights, prancing through
Speaker 3: the stage, and then the hockey guys were like really.
Speaker 2: And You're like yeah.
Speaker 4: And I also have incredible flexibility and endurance because I
Speaker 4: dance and.
Speaker 3: One of two straight guys in the entire musical theater department.
Speaker 2: You killed you killed my friend, yep, yep, good times.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think I dated every dancer in the dance company.
Speaker 3: It was pretty much my entire data.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like as the like the handful
Speaker 4: of straight men in a theater department, that's just the requirement, particularly.
Speaker 3: In college department, the musical theater department.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I mean. Yeah, the music it is not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: your your your odds are good.
Speaker 3: We'll put it in that that's were very good. The
Speaker 3: ratio was good, The odds were good.
Speaker 2: I got to be honest, ye, forge and now you
Speaker 2: can sing the music man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's really winning all around. Yeah, that's so great.
Speaker 2: Where did you go? Where did you go to college? David?
Speaker 3: I went to Emerson College and bo okay cool. Notable
Speaker 3: alumni include Kevin Bright, who was a producer on Friends
Speaker 3: and what happened funny enough is they kept Bright, Coff
Speaker 3: and Crane. They were making two pilots at Warner Brothers.
Speaker 3: One was Friends and the other was little show called
Speaker 3: The Secret Life of Harry Green, and then they decided
Speaker 3: to cast me as Harry Green. And then they changed
Speaker 3: the name's reality Check. But this was like a big,
Speaker 3: big this was they actually thought this was had a
Speaker 3: better shot than Friends because we tested so uh like
Speaker 3: huge test scores eighty five, eighty seven. And when I'm
Speaker 3: talking about test scores, of course some time about test
Speaker 3: audiences before they released a pilot, and I love it.
Speaker 4: He knows, like sometimes you get the little thing people
Speaker 4: are like, wait, you have to take a test to
Speaker 4: become an accurately now sat right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, They basically like make people watch your stuff and
Speaker 4: then go, so what did you think?
Speaker 2: And then they score.
Speaker 3: And so we ranked like the highest Warner Brothers pilot.
Speaker 3: It was an unbelievable, unbelievably funny show that starred me
Speaker 3: and then my co stars were these little people who've
Speaker 3: kind of had decent careers Giovanni Ribisi, Hillary Swank who
Speaker 3: may have won a couple of Oscars. Made my girlfriend,
Speaker 3: and my little sister was played by somebody who really
Speaker 3: went nowhere, Killy Coco.
Speaker 2: Oh, just her right.
Speaker 3: And of course I was a star of this show.
Speaker 3: And Fox got the rights to ball Over the Summer,
Speaker 3: and that the last second they pulled us because we
Speaker 3: were going to be on Sundays between Married with Children
Speaker 3: and The Simpsons.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a slot.
Speaker 3: And then they pulled us. Like I was celebrating in
Speaker 3: club bed and I got back. My manager's like, I
Speaker 3: don't know what happened. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Oh like the business, this is the business.
Speaker 3: Wow, resident of Warner Brothers at the time, Warner Brothers Television.
Speaker 3: He said to me said, look, we're you're we're fans.
Speaker 3: I'm a fan. We're going to put you on another show.
Speaker 3: And that's when they put me on Full House.
Speaker 2: Ah. So that was it. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: We lucked out because of that, although I feel bad
Speaker 1: that you lost. What an amazing opportunity and it was.
Speaker 3: Such a good show. In fact, if you go on
Speaker 3: the YouTube and you type in reality check David Lipper,
Speaker 3: it'll pop up and you can see the pilot. It's
Speaker 3: it's up on there.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh my god.
Speaker 3: It's really actually wild to see a very young Hilary Swank,
Speaker 3: a very young Jewe right, and a really young Kailee
Speaker 3: Coco who's like like twelve or ten.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. It was like when Yeah, I'm in Bob
Speaker 2: did the show and bree uh uh, Lawrence lars Larson
Speaker 2: excuse me, bre Larsen, Yeah, played his daughter or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just the weird sort of the weird
Speaker 2: circles that happen and then someone goes and shoots off
Speaker 2: in one trajectory and you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: And don't forget back in those days, the nineties, they
Speaker 3: made like twenty five half hours and twenty five hour
Speaker 3: pilots for each network.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it was, and it was the heyday of
Speaker 4: great like sitcoms and TV appointment television, all of that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. Yeah, we we got to have the
Speaker 4: fun of that experience in the nineties because it's definitely
Speaker 4: it was just a.
Speaker 3: Much more profitable, easier business. In those days you only
Speaker 3: had four channels, you know, really forming channels. You had
Speaker 3: most people watching television and not diverted now to social
Speaker 3: media and all these other places, and so the advertising
Speaker 3: dollars could really focus on these places and know that,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone felt comfortable, residuals were good, like all
Speaker 3: that stuff worked. Now it's tricky, you know, the streamers
Speaker 3: and the dilution of content everywhere. You know, there's so
Speaker 3: many platforms, there's so many places to get content right,
Speaker 3: really hard to get and it's very niche.
Speaker 4: It's like there's there's a small audience that really rapidly
Speaker 4: loves a particular thing and but then maybe nobody else
Speaker 4: knows about it, you know what I mean. But it's
Speaker 4: very popular with their which is great in some respects
Speaker 4: because you know, we there's so much out there to watch,
Speaker 4: but it does make it really hard to kind of
Speaker 4: be successful now.
Speaker 2: I have a question though, David, going back, who.
Speaker 4: Was your influence in like theater and sports and were
Speaker 4: your parents people that did that like that did theater
Speaker 4: and sports or were they like or were you just
Speaker 4: like you know, what I want to try everything, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm just fascinated by that because most, but truly most,
Speaker 4: like young guys would be like, if I play sports,
Speaker 4: I don't want to do the other thing.
Speaker 2: And I just I think it's so great.
Speaker 3: Was My dad was an athlete football in high school.
Speaker 3: He played basketball in high school and unfortunately his knees went,
Speaker 3: but otherwise he probably would have been a pretty pretty
Speaker 3: good star athlete going through college and went to McGill
Speaker 3: where he married my mom in Montreal. My sister also
Speaker 3: star athlete, my brother, star student. So I was kind
Speaker 3: of like, geez, what can I do? And I was
Speaker 3: a decent athlete, you know, I played hockey all through
Speaker 3: high school, tennis, golf, like I do all those things,
Speaker 3: and I'm decent. I was always a good player, good
Speaker 3: enough to make varsity, but never great. You know, there
Speaker 3: were always guys a lot better. The one thing I
Speaker 3: could do that for some reason, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: think it was that hard, and everybody else was like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's amazing you can do that was singing and act
Speaker 3: and so I started doing musicals. I think as young
Speaker 3: as eight, I did the years, and being a Jew,
Speaker 3: it was pretty funny that I joined the church choir
Speaker 3: to do the Gondoliers at a church.
Speaker 2: I mean the opportunities where you know, you go where they.
Speaker 3: Are non denominational.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you got.
Speaker 3: So I just went, okay, you just like to sing.
Speaker 3: I like, get them out of the house, go sing
Speaker 3: with people who sing. And that's kind of where it happened.
Speaker 3: And by the age of nine, I think I was
Speaker 3: starring in a synagogue production again across the street from
Speaker 3: the church, right, and I got these great reviews and like,
Speaker 3: who's this kid who joined you know who? I was
Speaker 3: like the youngest kid ever in this theater group, and
Speaker 3: people started started giving me all these compliments. And I
Speaker 3: just kept booking the leads in musicals, which I did
Speaker 3: all through high school, and just always kept getting great
Speaker 3: parts and great reviews and whatever these reviews meant from
Speaker 3: these local papers or whatever. And then eventually just said
Speaker 3: I'm going to go do this in college, got my
Speaker 3: degree in musical theater, and then really just never wavered
Speaker 3: from my moving to LA and I'm going to do this.
Speaker 3: And you know, I put a lot of pressure on myself.
Speaker 3: I said I'm going to give it one year. You know,
Speaker 3: I made a deal with my family. You were like, listen,
Speaker 3: you're on your own. You got to pay your own bills.
Speaker 3: Good luck to you.
Speaker 2: How old were you?
Speaker 3: I'm struggling. My dad said, call me go to business school.
Speaker 3: I'll pay for everything. So I'm like, like, after n
Speaker 3: I struggling, Like should I just go get an MBA
Speaker 3: and just be done with this? And then like boom,
Speaker 3: I booked like three things and I'm like, I got
Speaker 3: enough money for the next year. I'm staying right, yes,
Speaker 3: And that's it. Never looked back, you know. By the
Speaker 3: next year, I'd booked this pilot and then after that
Speaker 3: I was on full house.
Speaker 2: How old were you at the sign, David, I moved to.
Speaker 3: LA at twenty one.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great luck too for someone just starting out
Speaker 1: out in LA to book a pilot and then book
Speaker 1: a recording career.
Speaker 3: On my audition, here's what happened. I knew one guy
Speaker 3: who had been a counselor at the theater camp I
Speaker 3: went to. I went to a theater camp called Stage
Speaker 3: Doore Manor in New York in the Catskills, and a
Speaker 3: lot of great people came out of there. Johnny Cryer
Speaker 3: came out of there, Josh Charles came out of there
Speaker 3: a lot of really talented people, and so I was
Speaker 3: I was already like super focused. This is what I'm
Speaker 3: going to do this, this is how I'm going to
Speaker 3: make it. I didn't realize what was going to happen
Speaker 3: is I was going to shift from musical theater into
Speaker 3: straight acting, and I just kind of said, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go with the flow. But what was so great
Speaker 3: about Full House is I got to do both. And
Speaker 3: that's really the last time I had this opportunity to
Speaker 3: also do music and also do the acting in one piece.
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget that, and like how special that
Speaker 3: was for me because I could see this trajectory happening
Speaker 3: where I think I'd made an album. I made a CD.
Speaker 2: We had CDs back and ordered it on actual tape.
Speaker 3: Yes, we had reels.
Speaker 2: It was an actual physical thing you could touch.
Speaker 3: You know, it's on my website by the way, David
Speaker 3: Lipper dot com. But you know, I just could see
Speaker 3: that was not going to be the thing. And acting
Speaker 3: was really.
Speaker 2: Really as brutal as acting is. To break into music
Speaker 2: is like, oh my god, it's.
Speaker 3: It's so hard. And but this one guy who was
Speaker 3: a counselor at this theater camp. I called him up
Speaker 3: when I got to La. I'm here for two weeks, right,
Speaker 3: I got my little Honda Civic and staying at a
Speaker 3: family relative house. And this guy Mark Sachs, who was
Speaker 3: a big casting director. He goes, listen, I'm going to
Speaker 3: do you one favor because I loved you in Fiddler.
Speaker 3: He said, here's what I'm going to do. I have
Speaker 3: a friend Ted Han who's casting the show called Step
Speaker 3: by Step. I think you're perfect for it. I'm getting
Speaker 3: you a pre read. Don't ask me for another favor. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I got a preread. What's a preread? Okay, let's go.
Speaker 3: I go down to by the Way. I just remember
Speaker 3: it was called Laura mar Oh yeah, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: where we yet, right. So I go down. I meet
Speaker 3: with this guy is like, oh, yeah, you're you're a
Speaker 3: Mark's friend. All right, let's go. Let's and read. Let's go.
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, you're pretty good. Let's let's sorry.
Speaker 3: Can we start again, Let's start again.
Speaker 4: It's always great when you go into a casting director
Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, you're going to suck, but go
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 2: You're just like Yeah. It's that part of in person
Speaker 2: auditions when you're like, wow, I should just I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna go. They won't notice whether.
Speaker 3: He's staying does not want to see me. But then
Speaker 3: he's like, you're fantastic. I'm like, I keep telling people this, okay.
Speaker 3: So he goes, I'm going to bring you to producers.
Speaker 3: I'm like, unbelievable. I don't even know what it means,
Speaker 3: but let's go go to the producers. They're like, I'm
Speaker 3: you're fantastic. I'm like, okay, do I have the part? No,
Speaker 3: you got to go to studio studio.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like the video game. You just keep increasing
Speaker 4: boss levels to fight.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening. I don't have an agent.
Speaker 3: I don't have like and so he goes, look, I
Speaker 3: got to get you an agent. I go okay. He goes,
Speaker 3: you're going to get some phone calls. My phone starts
Speaker 3: going off the hook. Every manager agent's like, we heard
Speaker 3: you're testing for this show. And it was already picked
Speaker 3: up because it was a Miller Boyett show. They were
Speaker 3: already on for twenty two and I was up for anyway.
Speaker 3: Came down to me and Sasha Mitchell for this role
Speaker 3: of Cody, the cousin who lives in the vand right,
Speaker 3: and for some reason it was at Sony and I
Speaker 3: can't remember why made no sense, but anyway, we're at
Speaker 3: the Sony lot, which is a huge lot for those
Speaker 3: who don't know, and I go in crush it. Really
Speaker 3: the Viper character is the way I did it, you know,
Speaker 3: the Vinnie Barberina ball cap on. This is like, so
Speaker 3: I already like felt really good about this kind of
Speaker 3: character that I that I've been working on. And they're hysterics.
Speaker 3: They're like, listen, Sasha is still not here. If he
Speaker 3: doesn't show up in five minutes, it's yours because we
Speaker 3: absolutely love you. And and it was my birthday on
Speaker 3: top of everything. Was it was August thirteenth, so I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, okay, it's my birthday. It's right.
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. And at four minutes and fifty seconds
Speaker 3: in Walksasha Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Oh and he tackle them in the hallway.
Speaker 3: Now it's like I got so lost. His place is
Speaker 3: so big. It's like, man, I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to lose to this idiot. Am I in like wait
Speaker 3: a second. The character is an idiot, right, Oh no,
Speaker 3: And so then he comes out. They go in, They go, David,
Speaker 3: can you come back in? I go sure. They're like,
Speaker 3: we love everything you did. There was something about him,
Speaker 3: there's a Midwest thing. Could you do the same performance,
Speaker 3: take out the New York accent? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: the whole Pinny Babrino thing that I just worked on. Okay, yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: I'll anyway, I do that. We go back, We go
Speaker 3: for it now. As you know, usually they make the
Speaker 3: pilot decisions in the room. They took three days. Oh wow.
Speaker 3: Apparently this went back and forth. I think maybe Miller
Speaker 3: and Boyette themselves were at odds on it. I don't
Speaker 3: remember whatever happened. It took three days, and then finally
Speaker 3: they decided to give it to Sasha, and the casting
Speaker 3: director I'll never forget this, told me the final decision
Speaker 3: was a marketing person who said they thought Sasha would
Speaker 3: sell more lunchboxes and that was the end.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So but whatever, I got an agent out of.
Speaker 2: It, step lunch box.
Speaker 3: Step, step by step lunch lunchboxes. Apparently that was a thing.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That was the deciding factor. A lunchbox.
Speaker 3: I never had a lunch box. I have never used
Speaker 3: a lunch box, but apparently it's a thing. So so
Speaker 3: that's how it started. This was two weeks as same
Speaker 3: suits that decided Reality Check should be replaced by a
Speaker 3: sports show, so they don't.
Speaker 4: Well they lunchboxes again. You know, you just keep getting
Speaker 4: screwed over by the lunchbox.
Speaker 3: And I you know, I had a bag, a paper bag.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, you're like, I didn't even carry it in
Speaker 2: a box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, never got it. So that's what happened.
Speaker 4: Wow, what a what an interesting sort of I mean
Speaker 4: circuitous adventure to get I mean, and that's so many
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 2: Can you spell securities circuituitus see I R C U
Speaker 2: I t O U S. I believe that sounds right
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: Every now and then a word I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, circuit.
Speaker 4: It means looping and uh sort of not a direct path,
Speaker 4: but yeah, like one of these like so like kind
Speaker 4: of looping and going around and going all around the
Speaker 4: place that you want to be, uh but not necessarily there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. There's your vocab word for the day. Guys.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. Occasionally I come out with something smart.
Speaker 3: I love it. This is a good word I use
Speaker 3: this word.
Speaker 4: Oh I please do give me word credit. I don't
Speaker 4: know what that means, but just if you need to
Speaker 4: be like you get at the bottom of the sentence
Speaker 4: about Jody's sweetenedn't.
Speaker 3: With that word get a residual?
Speaker 2: Right, Look, these streamers are screwing us a whole, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. We got to take it where
Speaker 2: we can. But speaking of.
Speaker 4: I mean working together and weird looping, you know sort
Speaker 4: of things. You and I got to do a movie together,
Speaker 4: just wipe. You and I got to do a movie together.
Speaker 4: And it was during the pandemic that we shot it,
Speaker 4: and we you also produced it, which you and Elizabeth
Speaker 4: Blake Thomas, who I'm still dear friends with, who is
Speaker 4: such a sweetheart. Yeah, she was directing it and you
Speaker 4: were producing it and and we were all and it
Speaker 4: was Alec Mappa and Danielle Perez and you and me.
Speaker 2: And and oh my god, it was tell me everything.
Speaker 2: Where did you shoot this? Well was in Woodland Hills.
Speaker 2: But whose house was that?
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra's old estate?
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, there's a beautiful estate up there in Woodland
Speaker 4: Hills that's all like gated, and.
Speaker 3: This weird thing happened in twenty twenty called a pandemic. Yes,
Speaker 3: I had directed my first film called Deathlink, and Elizabeth
Speaker 3: was my first eighty eight and so in the middle
Speaker 3: of my shoot, pandemic happened, and so all of a
Speaker 3: sudden it was like, Okay, I lost crew, I lost people.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I finished this film, except you know,
Speaker 3: coming as actors, we have thick skins and we just
Speaker 3: go we can do it, no matter what it is
Speaker 3: to make it work. I can drive a plane, I put.
Speaker 2: It on my Yeah, exactly right, and I yes, that's
Speaker 2: some of my special skills. Absolutely, yes.
Speaker 3: So that's what we did and we got this movie done,
Speaker 3: and Elizabeth was great and helped me a lot as
Speaker 3: my first first when we had to cut date, we
Speaker 3: had to cut a whole week off the schedule because.
Speaker 2: Lockdown happened, right like that doesn't have any more experience.
Speaker 3: Elizabeth said, look, I've got this script. I want you
Speaker 3: to be the lead, and we helped me produce it,
Speaker 3: and I said, let me read it. And I read it.
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, this is an unbelievable script. It's
Speaker 3: about two people who meet in lockdown, which was right
Speaker 3: what we were in the middle of going through and
Speaker 3: because of that, two people who normally wouldn't date because
Speaker 3: we can't physically see each other because we're in lockdown,
Speaker 3: we end up striking up a friendship and getting to
Speaker 3: know each other kind of the way dating used to be.
Speaker 3: It was like, let's have sex and Hi, who are you?
Speaker 3: So we're just kind of flipped back to the way
Speaker 3: it used to be. We know each other, we become friends,
Speaker 3: and then you know, can have a real relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it was a really nice moral to that
Speaker 3: story on kind of you know, maybe it's time to
Speaker 3: slow down and go back to the basics on dating.
Speaker 3: And when I read the script and she said let's
Speaker 3: talk about the female lead, I immediately said Jody. I
Speaker 3: picked up the phone. I called Rachel, who we both
Speaker 3: are managed by, and I said, Rachel, can you put
Speaker 3: this in Jodie's hands and and see what she says?
Speaker 3: And uh, And that's what happened. And I know it's
Speaker 3: strange that I went from dating Canvas.
Speaker 4: On the show, right from Viper to Yeah, but I
Speaker 4: really thought this was the right the right move for Jody.
Speaker 3: And it was first off, we had a really impressively
Speaker 3: diverse cast in this movie. You know, like Jody brought
Speaker 3: up Perez, she's actually in a wheelchair. We wanted to
Speaker 3: have somebody who is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's hilarious. By the way I had her.
Speaker 4: She was going to be a guest on one of
Speaker 4: my stand up family Dinner shows that I do at
Speaker 4: the Bourbon Room and then wound up being out of town.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, she's a really hilarious comedian. And Alec
Speaker 4: Mapa is out of his mind one of the live
Speaker 4: he's really just.
Speaker 3: He's just so funny and he's so perfect in this movie.
Speaker 3: And then the guy who played his partner, Steven, it
Speaker 3: was somebody who was in my film Death Link.
Speaker 2: Yes, Stephen, when that's right, I forgot I've brought yeah
Speaker 2: so sad.
Speaker 3: We just brought our team the same like crew and
Speaker 3: people we've been working with. And so the whole idea was,
Speaker 3: if we're locked in a house for eight days, maybe
Speaker 3: we can get through this movie with no one getting sick,
Speaker 3: because in those days, this is pre vaccine, right, this
Speaker 3: is twenty twenty, the end of like late twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: where people that's.
Speaker 4: Right, it was it was late twenty twenty, it was
Speaker 4: right around Thanksgiving, because every we were heading into the
Speaker 4: holidays and it was getting worse and worse and worse,
Speaker 4: and we were like.
Speaker 2: Just get through the last like forty eight hours of this.
Speaker 2: You were like, not again, not again. We're not shutting
Speaker 2: down again.
Speaker 3: No, no, And that's I said to Elizabeth, we're going
Speaker 3: to do this. We got to knock it out in
Speaker 3: like a week. So let's do like six days, one
Speaker 3: day off, two days, like yeah, that kind of schedule
Speaker 3: because because anything past that, someone's going to test positive
Speaker 3: and we're screwed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And these were like the deep nose to.
Speaker 3: Every other.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, We're like yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And testing every day with the rapids and it was
Speaker 3: you know, and that was really hard to shoot like that,
Speaker 3: by the way, because it's a lot to put a
Speaker 3: whole crew through testing and waiting ten minutes for the
Speaker 3: results and all right.
Speaker 4: So some of you guys were living, we're staying at
Speaker 4: the some of the crew were.
Speaker 3: Living in the house, a huge, huge house. And what
Speaker 3: we realized is if we just contained the whole movie
Speaker 3: in this one house, we can get it done in
Speaker 3: eight days and we can dress the rooms are so different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a big property and big estate you could.
Speaker 4: I mean it's like any you know, small feature film
Speaker 4: that you're doing. You're like, I have seven locations right
Speaker 4: in this house, I've got all I need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the guest house. We even made I think,
Speaker 3: you know one one apartment and then that's true, Yeah,
Speaker 3: which was yours.
Speaker 4: I think it was my apartment. Yeah, my apartment was
Speaker 4: a guest house. We had a little putting green. We
Speaker 4: had a beautiful like the beautiful hill side off the
Speaker 4: hood by the.
Speaker 3: Way that that you see me make. I actually made it.
Speaker 3: And that was a lopsided, bumpy grain that was not
Speaker 3: an easy putt to make.
Speaker 2: I mean it didn't have a windmill, so I'm not
Speaker 2: as impressed.
Speaker 3: No, no windmill, No.
Speaker 4: But no, that was such a it was such a fun.
Speaker 4: I mean it was you know. Again, we shot it
Speaker 4: in eight days eight.
Speaker 3: Days, and I will tell you I did something that
Speaker 3: I don't know how except again, we have to do it.
Speaker 3: I shot fifty five pages of my coverage in one day.
Speaker 3: I remember that we talked like this, right, like.
Speaker 2: Everything was shot over zoom or.
Speaker 6: Not over zoom, but everything was shot as so it
Speaker 6: was like me talking to her, I'm talking to camera.
Speaker 3: So I have a locked off camera here and there
Speaker 3: was another camera basically here in my world and the
Speaker 3: same thing on Jody's end.
Speaker 2: So we would do like all our coverage in one
Speaker 2: room on one day.
Speaker 3: I did my entire coverage for the whole thing in
Speaker 3: one day because we were just like, how are we
Speaker 3: going to make this schedule? And I'm like, oh, I'll
Speaker 3: handle it. And it was just like it was insane.
Speaker 3: It was like I was doing theater. I mean it was.
Speaker 4: It was literally like jumping in and doing monologues of
Speaker 4: pages and pages of That's a lot to memory.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I want to tell you something
Speaker 3: Jody talk about a pro and consider it for the
Speaker 3: other actors. She was there for every line of off camera.
Speaker 3: She's like, Nope, I'm going to be there. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you don't have to be I am going to be there.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: I love actors, single line of her off camera and
Speaker 3: that I got to tell you, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I've told you this greatly appreciated that.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's I always unless there is some particular scheduling
Speaker 4: reason where I have to be changing or in hair
Speaker 4: and makeup or something while the other person is shooting.
Speaker 4: I always want to give the other actor the courtesy
Speaker 4: of an actual scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's important because.
Speaker 2: It's you can't. I'm like, why would I?
Speaker 4: Why would I object another actor who's supposed to be
Speaker 4: my partner in a scene? Why would I make them
Speaker 4: go I'm going to have you guess what I'm going
Speaker 4: to give you and react to something that may or
Speaker 4: may not have happened. Yeah, Like, I just would never
Speaker 4: dream of doing that if I like I, I one
Speaker 4: percent think as an actor, it's it's disrespectful to your
Speaker 4: other actor to not be reading the stuff off camera
Speaker 4: unless there is some sort of scheduling reason or or
Speaker 4: you can't be there whatever.
Speaker 2: I just for me, it's a personal thing that I
Speaker 2: just think. I don't think any actor should leave another
Speaker 2: actor abandoned out there doing a scene. It's completely different
Speaker 2: when you're reading with the scripty.
Speaker 3: If the script supervisor who's reading with you, who half
Speaker 3: the time they're from some foreign country and they are like, David,
Speaker 3: I love you very much.
Speaker 4: Right, And you're like, that's I appreciate you, thank you
Speaker 4: for trying. But like, it's not, I can't. I can't
Speaker 4: give you anything off of this.
Speaker 2: It takes you out of the moment, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so well thank you. I It's just that's just what
Speaker 2: we do as actors. But we had so much fun
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 4: But it definitely was It was crazy and then yeah,
Speaker 4: we wrapped like right before Thanksgiving and we were all like, okay,
Speaker 4: we made it and yeah, and then we just went
Speaker 4: into the holidays.
Speaker 3: Nobody got sick.
Speaker 2: We were so.
Speaker 4: We were I mean, I will say I mean we
Speaker 4: were also a small, tight crew and everybody worked their
Speaker 4: ass off because everyone was doing like in almost an
Speaker 4: entire department's job pretty much, because it was like you
Speaker 4: had to really narrow it down to like, we don't
Speaker 4: have an art department, we have art person.
Speaker 2: You we have a guy, right, and it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll create, we'll do you know.
Speaker 4: It was it was weirdly like the fun of independent filmmaking,
Speaker 4: which is sort of the the hectic, craziness, weird stress
Speaker 4: of it that's almost enjoyable.
Speaker 3: I love those, you know, those those smaller budget films
Speaker 3: that are short shoots and contained like that. Those are
Speaker 3: just like where you're really everybody's doing it for the
Speaker 3: love of the movie, and it's like I'm doing you know,
Speaker 3: I'm producing a lot of bigger films these days, Like
Speaker 3: we're doing a Liam Neeson action film right now, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's like we're getting into the thirty million
Speaker 3: plus territory.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And it's just it's so much like stress over things.
Speaker 3: It's nobody everyone's worrying about how much money they're making
Speaker 3: and this and that. It's like, you know, and it's
Speaker 3: it's it's very different from nobody's getting paid.
Speaker 2: Everybody like over time, what's that you raise?
Speaker 3: Yeah, tag ultra low budget agreement. And it's just but
Speaker 3: there's something so beautiful about those movies. I really kind
Speaker 3: of miss those. Yeah, And you know, I like it's
Speaker 3: like everybody chipped in, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 4: I've never really i mean, other than like doing TV
Speaker 4: stuff that's bigger production money. Most of the UH films
Speaker 4: I've done have been like smaller or you know, not
Speaker 4: small but Hallmark or whatever ones that we've done or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I just hear from other people on these huge
Speaker 4: movies about this very same thing, cruise. Everybody are like
Speaker 4: it's just like everyone's in their own little world and
Speaker 4: like nobody it's not as collaborative because everyone's like kind
Speaker 4: of weirdly protective of their job and their you know,
Speaker 4: and it's just it's a it's a different like there's
Speaker 4: something about that small indie film vibe where everyone's just like,
Speaker 4: we're just doing this because we're all a little bit
Speaker 4: insane and we love what we do, and you know.
Speaker 3: And you know, there on top of that, nobody was working.
Speaker 3: It was long, that's true. Nobody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just so happy to.
Speaker 3: Be there, so grateful to be working when everybody else
Speaker 3: was at home going.
Speaker 6: Can you can I we're really really yeah, I'm going
Speaker 6: crazy and lo and behold that's what happened. And a
Speaker 6: few my later we made Curse of Wolf Mountain, and
Speaker 6: my great idea was where I teamed up with with
Speaker 6: Kelly Price, said let's do a movie in the woods,
Speaker 6: because then there's even less of a chance, right because
Speaker 6: we're outside and what.
Speaker 3: Do we call it? Wolf Mountain? There's a wolf guy
Speaker 3: in the mountain. And of course shooting a horror movie
Speaker 3: where you kill ten people is much more difficult to
Speaker 3: do in eight days than the house.
Speaker 4: While the hard way, yeah yeah, yeah, and the action
Speaker 4: scenes are take a whole other thing out of you
Speaker 4: can do.
Speaker 2: Fifty five pages a day for that.
Speaker 5: Would be no with a whole other schmacggy which fifty
Speaker 5: five pages a day just so everyone knows, Okay, on
Speaker 5: a big budget movie, they'll do like they can spend
Speaker 5: days on a half a page.
Speaker 2: And then you can do we have that in our
Speaker 2: one day, that one day, that's a half a page.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: On small independent movies like the ones we you know,
Speaker 4: usually Hallmark and stuff like that, a lot of times
Speaker 4: you're shooting ten to twelve pages a day, which most
Speaker 4: people are like, that is a lot. And you know,
Speaker 4: so I think when normal people hear like ten to
Speaker 4: twelve page, you're like, everything it does not take as
Speaker 4: short as you think it does.
Speaker 3: Everything takes stage as a day as normal.
Speaker 4: Six stages a day is normal, and that's and even
Speaker 4: then you're that's a you know, an eight to ten
Speaker 4: hour day, like you're busy, So ten to twelve is
Speaker 4: a lot, but fifty five is like.
Speaker 3: In here, that's a lot of pages.
Speaker 2: We did.
Speaker 4: I did fourteen on a movie recently because we had
Speaker 4: the weather and we had to add it was a.
Speaker 2: Thirteen It was.
Speaker 4: A thirteen dayer, but one half of one day we
Speaker 4: got lost to rain, so you crammed everything else in
Speaker 4: and it was farm animals and all sorts of wild
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, but there's but at the same time
Speaker 4: you're like, this is great everyone, Like, I mean, what
Speaker 4: do you do? You just you make it work, like
Speaker 4: there's something sort of fun about that gorilla kind of
Speaker 4: filmmaking where it's you know, all hands on deck. Well,
Speaker 4: that was such a great episode, you guys, and that
Speaker 4: is David Lipper. So thank you so much for joining
Speaker 4: us for part one of our episode with uh with David,
Speaker 4: and we are gonna get to spend some more time
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