WEBVTT - 1. The Killing Zone

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Mountain lions do their hunting in the dark after

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<v Speaker 1>dusk and in the early morning hours, right before the

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<v Speaker 1>sun comes up. The hills above Malibu, California, are full

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<v Speaker 1>of them. They're vicious predators, but they're so shy that

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<v Speaker 1>the wildlife biologists who study them call them ghost cats.

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<v Speaker 1>If you hike in the hills surrounding Malibu, you probably

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen a mountain lion, but one has almost certainly

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<v Speaker 1>seen you. Hemmed in by freeways and in ever expanding suburbia,

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain lions are stressed half crazy. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a story about them for The New Yorker,

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<v Speaker 1>where I work. The people in Malibu were really upset,

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<v Speaker 1>especially about a rogue lion known as P forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>which was slaughtering pet alpacas and mini horses seemingly for sport.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a huge debate over who was to blame

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<v Speaker 1>for these deaths, a murderous lion or the people who

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<v Speaker 1>had left their pets unprotected in lion country. One morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I went out searching for evidence of lions in the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains near Malibu Creek State Park. I was with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the wildlife biologists, and we were in a tangle

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<v Speaker 1>of branches and bushes, looking at a dried out deer carcass,

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<v Speaker 1>a month old lion kill. This question just popped into

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<v Speaker 1>my head, so I asked him, Hey, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>find a dead body out here? He turned and looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me so strangely he was going to stick to

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<v Speaker 1>talking about lions, no comment on what humans might do

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<v Speaker 1>in these hills. In my fifteen years living in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>I've logged a decent amount of time in Malibu, sometimes reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>but mostly just taking my kids for afternoons at the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Malibu, It's paradise, the ocean, the mountains, the

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<v Speaker 1>honeycolored light, celebrities and surf bums, and laid back billionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>people with prayer beads and private security. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>postcard of itself. The real gidget is a hostess at

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<v Speaker 1>a local restaurant, and you could easily run into Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian at the sushi bar. But often in Malibu I

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<v Speaker 1>get this unsettling sensation that there's something else there underneath

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<v Speaker 1>that pretty surface, something elusive and slightly menacing, a riptide

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<v Speaker 1>an undertow, and I can never quite shake the feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>That the place is warning me to go away. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what I know when I start all this. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It was before sunrise June twenty second, eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and the campground at Malibu Creek State Park was packed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an idyllic spot. Campsites are arranged in a ring

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<v Speaker 1>around a large meadow dotted with oak trees. Jagged peaks

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<v Speaker 1>zigzag across the open sky. It was four in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>still dark. Everyone was inside their nylon tents and RVs,

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<v Speaker 1>cozy in their sleeping bags for a couple more hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But someone was awake, watching, silent, undetected, slipping shadow like

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<v Speaker 1>around the sleeping campground. He had a gun and he

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<v Speaker 1>fired it directly into one family's tent. Inside the tent

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<v Speaker 1>was a man named Tristan Bodette, a brilliant young research

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<v Speaker 1>scientist thirty five years old. He was sleeping beside his

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<v Speaker 1>two little girls. The bullet struck his forehead, killing him,

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever did it slipped away into the darkness. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a story that's meant to terrify you, playing on

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<v Speaker 1>your deepest fears. A story you'd tell around a campfire

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<v Speaker 1>with ghosts and murderers and things you can't explain except

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<v Speaker 1>that this story is true. And once I heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't stop thinking about it. How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>How does anything like this happen in Malibu, of all places?

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<v Speaker 1>But it did happen in Malibu, And as I'd come

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<v Speaker 1>to find out, inexplicable, nightmarish things happen in Malibu all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Tonight, a mystery in Malibu. The driver found

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<v Speaker 1>a man dead in a ditch along Lost Versus Canyon Road.

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<v Speaker 1>There have also been nine additional calls for shots fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't feel safe anymore. Breaking now a homicide investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a nude body and it's still unclear

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how it got here. It is a suspicious death.

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<v Speaker 1>The human bones were just a half mile from the trailhead.

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<v Speaker 1>We possibly said somebody screaming for help. Detectives and I

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out who he is and who killed him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. They'll be standing with pitchforks outside

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<v Speaker 1>Lost til Sheriff's department. I said to holler down, are

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<v Speaker 1>you all right? She said, I'm just resting or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Once she left, she just disappeared. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>a goodyear and This is Lost Hells episode one, the

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<v Speaker 1>Killing Zone. Would you guys start by just saying your

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<v Speaker 1>names and what your relationship is to Tristan. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Scott McCurdy. I'm Tristan's brother in law, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is my wife. My name's Pamela wo I'm at Tristan's

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<v Speaker 1>sister in law and married to Scott McCurdy. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Scott because he was with Tristan on

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<v Speaker 1>the camping trip. He was in the next tent over

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<v Speaker 1>with his own young boys. He's the closest person to

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Tristan's little girls were two and four. The

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<v Speaker 1>younger one could barely talk. Scott is the closest thing

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<v Speaker 1>to a witness. Tristan always has this bucket list of

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<v Speaker 1>things that he wants to do, and camping in Malibu

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<v Speaker 1>State Park was on the bucket list. Years ago, before

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<v Speaker 1>we had kids, he and I went up to Malibu

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<v Speaker 1>Creek State Park and he and I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and camp there. Scott tells me that Tristan,

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, Erica, and their kids were about to move

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<v Speaker 1>from Orange County up to the Bay Area. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he knew that I was a little bit sad

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<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be leaving Southern California. Erica

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<v Speaker 1>is an obgyn and had a medical exam to study for.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tristan proposed a trip something he and Scott had

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting to do for a long time, camping just

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<v Speaker 1>the dads with the kids in Malibu Creek State Park,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to have kind of one last camping

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<v Speaker 1>trip while he was down here and we were all together,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was meant to be this bonding, really

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<v Speaker 1>fun experience. The caravan up to Malibu, we're driving up

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<v Speaker 1>and we pull in and Tristan was first, and we

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<v Speaker 1>passed the ranger booth where you get your site, and

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<v Speaker 1>I follow Tristan in and we'd go down the long

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<v Speaker 1>winding road and he makes a wrong turn and off

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<v Speaker 1>the asphalt road onto this gravel dirt road, which later

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<v Speaker 1>he commented he was so excited that he got to

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<v Speaker 1>take his forest or off roading. It was such a funny, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>The campground is basically a large oak meadow. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>one way asphalt road that goes around it with campsites

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<v Speaker 1>offset on either side. You know, we found our campsite,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the kids out, and we all walked around

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<v Speaker 1>and the campsite was was a little bit angled, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Tristan really didn't like it because, you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a good spot to pitch the tent where you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be leaning one way or the other, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't wasn't the ideal camp site. So we decided,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were early enough not all the sites were full,

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<v Speaker 1>that we decided we'd, you know, one of us would

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<v Speaker 1>go back and bargain with the rain to get another site.

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<v Speaker 1>They moved to a different spot, Site forty nine, in

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<v Speaker 1>a nice flat area on the northern end of the meadow,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they noticed that the guy in the next

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<v Speaker 1>site over was leaving. They asked him if they could

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<v Speaker 1>use his site too spread out a little. He said, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem. Tristan set up his tent there in Site

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one. Then he and Scott and all the kids

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<v Speaker 1>spent the day at Surfrider Beach, that famous stretch along

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Coast Highway right by the Malibu Pier. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, they headed back to the park

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<v Speaker 1>and got ready for a night around the campfire. Scott

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<v Speaker 1>says that Tristan could be counted on to bring delicious

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<v Speaker 1>food and pre mixed cocktails when they camped. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of person who optimized everything. And so did you.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tristan get to stay up drinking Manhattan's or something

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<v Speaker 1>out of a flask after the kids finally went to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan had pre mixed Manhattan's for that trip, that last

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<v Speaker 1>conversation we had. We you know, we stayed up and

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about families for hours and hours

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<v Speaker 1>and um and I told him how much I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna miss him. I'm like, I kind of guilted him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, like, you know, well we had a

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<v Speaker 1>good run, buddy, you know, we had a good run.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'll miss you. You know. I remember at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the night, we decided, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well it's it's late, let's go to bed. It was

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<v Speaker 1>probably I don't know, I don't know what time it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was one o'clock or something. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we put out the camp fire, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we I gave him a big hug, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I told him I loved him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>told him I did I told him again that I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna miss him, and It makes me sad but

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<v Speaker 1>so happy at the same time, because at least I

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<v Speaker 1>got that. A few hours later, Scott says he was

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<v Speaker 1>awakened by a loud noise like fireworks and the sound

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<v Speaker 1>of one of his nieces crying. He couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>why Tristan wasn't helping her. He knew that something must

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong. He got up, leaving his own young children,

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<v Speaker 1>and hurried over to Tristen's tent. He opened the flap.

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<v Speaker 1>In the dark, he could see the girls kneeling beside

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<v Speaker 1>their dad. One of them kept saying, wet, wet. He

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<v Speaker 1>dug around for a phone, and when he found it,

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<v Speaker 1>used it as a flashlight. He rolled Tristan over and

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<v Speaker 1>saw that his face was drenched in blood. The girls

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<v Speaker 1>were kneeling in a pool of it. That's what was wet.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulled the girls out of the tent into the

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<v Speaker 1>chilly early morning air and began to scream for help.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never investigated a murder before, but I'm assuming the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy will be filled with information. You know, leads I

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<v Speaker 1>can follow that will get me started in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>When the coroner releases it, I scour it for details.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time of his death, It says Tristan Bodatt

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing a gray tshirt, blue shorts, and white socks.

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<v Speaker 1>His face was unshaven. He had a little alcohol in

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<v Speaker 1>his system, probably the Manhattan's, and a little THHC. Above

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<v Speaker 1>his right eye, just below the hairline, but pretty close

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<v Speaker 1>to dead center was an oval hole where a full

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<v Speaker 1>copper jacketed lead bullet had entered, piercing his brain. That

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<v Speaker 1>bullet was excavated from his right shoulder blade. Included with

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy is something called a GSR data sheet. It

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<v Speaker 1>stands for Gunshot Residue. I had to look that up.

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<v Speaker 1>The box for homicide is checked, but everything else about

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<v Speaker 1>Tristan Bodat's case and how he died can only be

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<v Speaker 1>learned from the omissions gaps in the narrative of facts.

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<v Speaker 1>The weapon is described as outstanding make a model, unknown, ammunition,

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<v Speaker 1>brand and caliber. Unknown. Number of shots fired is left blank.

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<v Speaker 1>How did the injury occur? The autopsy simply bopaquely says

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<v Speaker 1>shot by another. When Tristan Bodett was killed, rumors started

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<v Speaker 1>flying around Malibu. Bodette worked at a pharmaceutical company and

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<v Speaker 1>had published research on vaccines, probably he'd been targeted, assassinated

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<v Speaker 1>by Big pharma or the government, or the perpetrator was

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<v Speaker 1>a disgruntled park worker, possibly ex military, or maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>had something to do with the elite go marijuana grows

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone knows, or a problem in Malibu Creek State Park.

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<v Speaker 1>But what Scott says that they moved spots twice and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up in a third spot given by a nameless stranger,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes me think about how random the killing was.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott was there, he was with Tristan the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>right up until they zipped into their separate tents, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's baffled. For me, and I think for Tristan, campgrounds

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<v Speaker 1>or a sanctuary, there were a place that you could

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<v Speaker 1>go and you could let your guard down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids could play, you'd have fun setting up your

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<v Speaker 1>camp and making dinner and just hanging out with the

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<v Speaker 1>people you love. Do you think about Malibu differently now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I definitely do. I mean, I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got just this really great spot in the world where

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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to go and enjoy nature, And

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't think that in a place so beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to experience something so evil. When I

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<v Speaker 1>think about what happened to Tristan Boudet, I always think

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<v Speaker 1>about the thin wall of his tent. He probably felt

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<v Speaker 1>so safe nestled in beside his girls. He trusted nature,

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't scared. He had no idea what was out

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<v Speaker 1>there or how vulnerable he was going camping anywhere. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>something could happen. You know, there could be there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a bear, there could be a mountain lion. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of inherent risks in nature that you know

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<v Speaker 1>they could be present, and you know if it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if there's if there's a bear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the idea of that is really scary, right. But

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<v Speaker 1>usually when there's something like that, I mean, it's posted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what, you know that there's there

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<v Speaker 1>are predators out there lurking, and so maybe you keep

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<v Speaker 1>your kids a little bit closer and you keep your

0:17:15.076 --> 0:17:17.596
<v Speaker 1>kids a little bit safer that day. But you would

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<v Speaker 1>never go to a campground where there was a known

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<v Speaker 1>human predator. No, no one whatever did that. We did

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<v Speaker 1>not know that there was this danger at this park,

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<v Speaker 1>and had we known, we would never have put our

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<v Speaker 1>children in danger. Never. It was only after Tristan's death

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<v Speaker 1>that he and everyone in Malibu found out there was

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<v Speaker 1>a real danger. People were being targeted in Malibu Creek

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<v Speaker 1>State Park. Law enforcement knew and Tristan Boudette was not

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<v Speaker 1>the first victim. From twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a series of shootings in and around Malibu Creek

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<v Speaker 1>State Park. One person was injured, but no one died.

0:18:23.156 --> 0:18:30.036
<v Speaker 1>These were near misses, six of them. I'm a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>feet above Malibu in a helicopter with the Twoey Write,

0:18:35.716 --> 0:18:39.956
<v Speaker 1>a retired sergeant detective from Lost Hills Station. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>small outpost of the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, and it

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<v Speaker 1>covers law enforcement for this whole area from coastal Malibu

0:18:47.156 --> 0:18:51.556
<v Speaker 1>to Calabasas and the miles and miles of wilderness in between.

0:18:51.916 --> 0:18:54.476
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful areas, are a wild area with some

0:18:54.596 --> 0:18:58.436
<v Speaker 1>rugged terrain. The sun such a beautiful out There's pointdo

0:18:59.516 --> 0:19:01.156
<v Speaker 1>over by the beach. I can see a line of

0:19:01.156 --> 0:19:05.196
<v Speaker 1>houses shoulder to shoulder on the sand. They look like toys.

0:19:05.236 --> 0:19:07.916
<v Speaker 1>From here. It's some of the most expensive real estate

0:19:08.356 --> 0:19:11.396
<v Speaker 1>in the world. You can see down there. That's Malibu Colony.

0:19:11.876 --> 0:19:16.436
<v Speaker 1>That little Peninsula of Holmes. There quite a few rich

0:19:16.436 --> 0:19:20.516
<v Speaker 1>and famous folks live there. We head inland over the mountains,

0:19:20.556 --> 0:19:25.036
<v Speaker 1>following Malibu Canyon Road. This should Malibu Canyon going in Here,

0:19:24.716 --> 0:19:28.116
<v Speaker 1>the highway goes along the canyon. It's a major road

0:19:28.476 --> 0:19:31.956
<v Speaker 1>connecting the beach and the valley. Something like twenty thousand

0:19:31.956 --> 0:19:34.956
<v Speaker 1>cars travel on it every day. Over and here is

0:19:35.916 --> 0:19:38.316
<v Speaker 1>some of the areas where like the Kardashians live and

0:19:38.396 --> 0:19:42.796
<v Speaker 1>all of that kind of And there's Malibu Creek State Park.

0:19:43.356 --> 0:19:49.356
<v Speaker 1>It's wild and pristine, volcanic rocks, oak savannah's undulating grasslands.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember the opening sequence to the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>TV show Mash where the helicopter flies past craggy green peaks,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Malibu Creek State Park. But Sergeant Twey Wright see

0:20:02.916 --> 0:20:10.996
<v Speaker 1>something different. He sees the killing zone. Hey, I'm thinking

0:20:12.396 --> 0:20:14.716
<v Speaker 1>you might just to keep it simple. We might start

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<v Speaker 1>with the shootings and then moved to the burglaries and

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<v Speaker 1>then moved to the capture since it happened that way

0:20:21.556 --> 0:20:25.676
<v Speaker 1>and the capture route in the camp. That sounds like

0:20:25.756 --> 0:20:29.396
<v Speaker 1>a great sequence. Sergeant Wright was in charge of search

0:20:29.436 --> 0:20:33.676
<v Speaker 1>and rescue, finding hikers lost in the mountains below. His

0:20:33.836 --> 0:20:36.116
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of this terrain put him right in the center

0:20:36.116 --> 0:20:39.916
<v Speaker 1>of the investigation into Tristan Bodat's death and everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happened before and after it. Sergeant Wright asks the pilot

0:20:45.596 --> 0:20:48.756
<v Speaker 1>Pete to take a lap over the park. Pete, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a left bank there, and we'll go back over towards Tapia.

0:20:55.436 --> 0:20:58.676
<v Speaker 1>Below us is a picnic spot, Tapia Park, at the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of Malibu Creek State Park. That's where in November

0:21:02.316 --> 0:21:07.396
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, a backpacker named Jimmy Rogers was shot hurt

0:21:07.516 --> 0:21:10.156
<v Speaker 1>but not killed. We'll see being in a hammock slung

0:21:10.236 --> 0:21:16.876
<v Speaker 1>between two trees near Miss number one. Over here in

0:21:16.956 --> 0:21:22.396
<v Speaker 1>the park. Down in the campground there is where the

0:21:22.516 --> 0:21:27.356
<v Speaker 1>next two incidents occurred. Less than a week later, and

0:21:27.396 --> 0:21:30.396
<v Speaker 1>about a mile away, in the campground where Bodat was

0:21:30.476 --> 0:21:33.476
<v Speaker 1>later killed, a man was shot at while inside his

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<v Speaker 1>camper near Miss number two. Two months later, in January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, there was another shooting in the same campground,

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<v Speaker 1>this time at a couple sleeping in their car near

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<v Speaker 1>Miss number Three's talking about the highway shootings. Then, in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of twenty seventeen, the targets seemed to change

0:21:58.836 --> 0:22:02.876
<v Speaker 1>to moving cars driving along the canyon Road. In the

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<v Speaker 1>span of a few weeks, first a white Porsche and

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<v Speaker 1>then a white BMW were hit with gunfire near misses

0:22:11.436 --> 0:22:16.876
<v Speaker 1>four and five. Below us on the park side of

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<v Speaker 1>the canyon Road, there's a hill well concealed by bushes

0:22:20.636 --> 0:22:24.396
<v Speaker 1>and trees. You can see the hill and the brush

0:22:24.436 --> 0:22:26.996
<v Speaker 1>and the canopy trees come right up to the edge

0:22:26.996 --> 0:22:30.796
<v Speaker 1>of the highway YEP. Sergeant Rights theory is that a

0:22:30.836 --> 0:22:34.956
<v Speaker 1>shooter lay in wait, firing on approaching cars. It's a

0:22:34.956 --> 0:22:39.476
<v Speaker 1>good elevated position where you have immediate cover and an

0:22:39.476 --> 0:22:43.916
<v Speaker 1>immediate escape direction. The shootings in the park and on

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<v Speaker 1>the canyon Road were totally bizarre events rhymes with no reason.

0:22:48.916 --> 0:22:52.636
<v Speaker 1>They all happened at the same time around three four am.

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<v Speaker 1>Each one involved a single shot, but after near miss

0:22:57.556 --> 0:23:02.236
<v Speaker 1>number five things went quiet. Eleven months passed without another

0:23:02.236 --> 0:23:09.716
<v Speaker 1>shooting until June eighteenth, twenty eighteen. Early that morning, around

0:23:09.796 --> 0:23:13.436
<v Speaker 1>four am, in the same area, a Tesla, a white one,

0:23:13.796 --> 0:23:21.596
<v Speaker 1>was hit in the hood near miss number six. Even then,

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<v Speaker 1>after twenty months of unsolved shootings, law enforcement didn't alert

0:23:25.916 --> 0:23:30.156
<v Speaker 1>the public. The Sheriff's department stayed silent. And so did

0:23:30.236 --> 0:23:34.836
<v Speaker 1>California State Parks. There was no press conference, nothing was

0:23:34.916 --> 0:23:39.276
<v Speaker 1>posted at the park, no information wanted flier, not even

0:23:39.276 --> 0:23:44.556
<v Speaker 1>a suggestion to remain vigilant. And four days after the

0:23:44.596 --> 0:23:48.396
<v Speaker 1>Tesla was shot, Tristan Boudette was killed in the campground.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got the call that there had been a

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<v Speaker 1>shooting at the campground, it wasn't out of the blue

0:23:58.196 --> 0:24:01.116
<v Speaker 1>for you. I'm just putting myself in your shoes and

0:24:01.236 --> 0:24:04.796
<v Speaker 1>thinking you must have had a sinking feeling because there

0:24:04.836 --> 0:24:09.716
<v Speaker 1>had been a series of incidents leading up to that moment. Yeah,

0:24:08.876 --> 0:24:13.596
<v Speaker 1>that is true, and this was our greatest fear that

0:24:14.636 --> 0:24:18.876
<v Speaker 1>this was a serial shooter and that eventually he would

0:24:18.916 --> 0:24:21.596
<v Speaker 1>hit somebody and or kill them. He'd already hit somebody

0:24:21.596 --> 0:24:29.636
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning. So he's saying that privately, law enforcement

0:24:29.716 --> 0:24:34.036
<v Speaker 1>worried there was a potential serial killer at large. They

0:24:34.076 --> 0:24:37.116
<v Speaker 1>thought he was looking for victims and that Malibu Creek

0:24:37.156 --> 0:24:40.236
<v Speaker 1>State Park and the Canyon Road were his hunting ground.

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<v Speaker 1>While millions of people, oblivious of the danger, continued to

0:24:45.996 --> 0:24:48.676
<v Speaker 1>visit the trails, spend the night in the campground, and

0:24:48.756 --> 0:24:54.196
<v Speaker 1>travel on the Canyon Road. Even me, I took my

0:24:54.276 --> 0:24:57.356
<v Speaker 1>kids to Malibu Creek State Park in early twenty eighteen,

0:24:58.276 --> 0:25:00.236
<v Speaker 1>we walked the three mile loop to the rock pool.

0:25:00.876 --> 0:25:03.396
<v Speaker 1>It's a famous swimming spot, and we checked out the

0:25:03.436 --> 0:25:06.836
<v Speaker 1>teenagers jumping from the ledges. We talked about camping in

0:25:06.836 --> 0:25:10.436
<v Speaker 1>the campground when it got warm enough. It's hard not

0:25:10.516 --> 0:25:16.516
<v Speaker 1>to look back and wonder what if we had. After

0:25:16.556 --> 0:25:19.956
<v Speaker 1>the Bodat murder, the earlier victims the near misses went

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<v Speaker 1>to the media. There was an outcry in Malibu as

0:25:22.916 --> 0:25:27.476
<v Speaker 1>people began to panic about the canyon shooter. The campground

0:25:27.516 --> 0:25:31.316
<v Speaker 1>was temporarily closed, but though no one was in custody,

0:25:31.396 --> 0:25:34.196
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the park remained open, and there was

0:25:34.276 --> 0:25:39.916
<v Speaker 1>still no sign posted about anything that had transpired there. Then,

0:25:40.036 --> 0:25:42.556
<v Speaker 1>about a month after the murder, there was a rash

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<v Speaker 1>of mysterious burglaries from commercial buildings near the periphery of

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<v Speaker 1>the park. You wanna talk about the burgerschure, okay, scroungey

0:25:53.156 --> 0:25:57.556
<v Speaker 1>desperate stuff, Not laptops or cell phones, but sandwiches from

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge, seize candy, cinnamon rolls, junk food from the

0:26:01.676 --> 0:26:04.076
<v Speaker 1>front of a vending machine, smashed out with a rock.

0:26:05.276 --> 0:26:07.836
<v Speaker 1>A couple of these places had video surveillance and a

0:26:07.876 --> 0:26:12.036
<v Speaker 1>guy was caught on camera masked and wearing a headlamp

0:26:12.196 --> 0:26:15.316
<v Speaker 1>with a backpack what appeared to be a rifle sticking

0:26:15.316 --> 0:26:18.636
<v Speaker 1>out of it. The next place we're going to go

0:26:18.676 --> 0:26:22.476
<v Speaker 1>to is called the Calabasas Recreation Center, just so happens

0:26:22.516 --> 0:26:26.716
<v Speaker 1>to be directly next door to Malboy last tools sheriff station.

0:26:27.916 --> 0:26:31.356
<v Speaker 1>The area where all these crimes took place is essentially

0:26:31.396 --> 0:26:35.636
<v Speaker 1>the backyard of the sheriff station and one burglary. The

0:26:35.756 --> 0:26:39.956
<v Speaker 1>last one was literally next door, so he came within

0:26:40.276 --> 0:26:44.116
<v Speaker 1>what would you say, a hundred yards of the sheriff station.

0:26:44.916 --> 0:26:47.716
<v Speaker 1>I would say maybe even closer to the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Wright says he followed bootprints from the rec center's

0:26:51.596 --> 0:26:54.636
<v Speaker 1>parking lot up into the dusty, desolate hills behind the

0:26:54.636 --> 0:26:58.156
<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's station. Do you see that big oak tree down

0:26:58.156 --> 0:27:00.836
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom. Yep, we're looking at a fold in

0:27:00.876 --> 0:27:03.356
<v Speaker 1>the hills where a gnarled oak clings to the side

0:27:03.356 --> 0:27:06.756
<v Speaker 1>of a steep slope. The one furthest back towards the hill,

0:27:06.796 --> 0:27:15.036
<v Speaker 1>the big one. YEA. I figured there was a up here. Following,

0:27:15.036 --> 0:27:18.436
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant writes hunch half a dozen Sheriff's deputies returned to

0:27:18.476 --> 0:27:21.836
<v Speaker 1>the site of the last bootprint. As they trudged up

0:27:21.836 --> 0:27:24.556
<v Speaker 1>and down hills in the bright sun, the only sound

0:27:24.596 --> 0:27:28.516
<v Speaker 1>was a Sheriff's Department helicopter chuffing in the distance. But

0:27:28.676 --> 0:27:34.356
<v Speaker 1>then a deputy heard a strange, clanging noise echoing through

0:27:34.356 --> 0:27:39.196
<v Speaker 1>the canyon. It seemed to be coming from a ridge

0:27:39.236 --> 0:27:44.756
<v Speaker 1>to the west. Already steeped in shadow, the deputy dropped

0:27:44.756 --> 0:27:47.356
<v Speaker 1>to his knee and looked through the optic on his rifle.

0:27:48.556 --> 0:27:54.116
<v Speaker 1>Zooming in, he saw a man saw the whites of

0:27:54.116 --> 0:27:59.996
<v Speaker 1>his eyes, as he would later testify, clean cut, early forties,

0:28:00.076 --> 0:28:03.796
<v Speaker 1>wearing all black and a backpack with a rifle sticking

0:28:03.796 --> 0:28:08.836
<v Speaker 1>out the top. The deputies jumped him right outside his camp.

0:28:13.556 --> 0:28:16.996
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he tried to flee, but deputies were on

0:28:17.076 --> 0:28:20.796
<v Speaker 1>him real quick search and rescue and lost Hill's patrol

0:28:21.636 --> 0:28:26.076
<v Speaker 1>immediately got their guns on him, and at some point

0:28:26.076 --> 0:28:28.876
<v Speaker 1>he tossed the pack and you could see the rifle

0:28:28.956 --> 0:28:38.516
<v Speaker 1>sticking out of the pack. The man with the gun

0:28:38.716 --> 0:28:42.236
<v Speaker 1>was Anthony Routa, a loaner who'd been living in the

0:28:42.316 --> 0:28:47.356
<v Speaker 1>hills on and off for years. The cops celebrated was

0:28:47.356 --> 0:28:52.076
<v Speaker 1>the mystery of the canyon shooter. All wrapped up. Sergeant Wright,

0:28:52.156 --> 0:28:55.236
<v Speaker 1>who helped track Routa to his camp, admits that it

0:28:55.276 --> 0:29:00.156
<v Speaker 1>all seems a little neat the drifter living behind the station,

0:29:00.596 --> 0:29:04.356
<v Speaker 1>hiding in plain view. That guy's responsible for what may

0:29:04.356 --> 0:29:09.396
<v Speaker 1>be the most violent crime wave in Malibu history. I

0:29:09.436 --> 0:29:11.436
<v Speaker 1>would think it would take some nerve to commit a

0:29:11.476 --> 0:29:15.276
<v Speaker 1>burglary direct next door to the station. I mean, why

0:29:15.316 --> 0:29:18.956
<v Speaker 1>would somebody commit a murder and then hold on to

0:29:19.036 --> 0:29:22.316
<v Speaker 1>the same weapon and then do burglaries on videotape and

0:29:22.476 --> 0:29:26.076
<v Speaker 1>making no very little effort to hide other than putting

0:29:26.076 --> 0:29:29.436
<v Speaker 1>a mask on part of your face. There's an assumption

0:29:29.516 --> 0:29:33.836
<v Speaker 1>that most criminals would think, if their picture was captured

0:29:33.836 --> 0:29:37.156
<v Speaker 1>on camera with a weapon, that there's going to be

0:29:37.196 --> 0:29:44.556
<v Speaker 1>a heightened law enforcement effort to engage them. And that's

0:29:44.596 --> 0:30:22.036
<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened. Okay number four and number five one calendar, Anthony,

0:30:22.556 --> 0:30:24.956
<v Speaker 1>It's been a long morning. In a cold court room

0:30:24.996 --> 0:30:29.356
<v Speaker 1>near the County Jail in downtown Los Angeles, Anthony Rawda

0:30:29.636 --> 0:30:33.636
<v Speaker 1>is late for his hearing. Officially, at this stage, the

0:30:33.716 --> 0:30:36.756
<v Speaker 1>charges have nothing to do with murder. Rauda is in

0:30:36.876 --> 0:30:40.596
<v Speaker 1>violation of the terms of his post release community supervision,

0:30:41.556 --> 0:30:44.596
<v Speaker 1>meaning he's an ex felon. He hasn't shown up to

0:30:44.636 --> 0:30:47.596
<v Speaker 1>meet with his probation officer for two years, and he's

0:30:47.636 --> 0:30:51.116
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to have weapons or ammunition. The deputies who

0:30:51.236 --> 0:30:55.636
<v Speaker 1>arrested him at his campsite say he had both unofficially,

0:30:55.676 --> 0:30:58.556
<v Speaker 1>though the charges seem to have everything to do with

0:30:58.556 --> 0:31:02.156
<v Speaker 1>the killing in Malibu Creek State Park. Only a few

0:31:02.196 --> 0:31:05.476
<v Speaker 1>hours after Roudah's arrest, the sheriff himself had a press

0:31:05.516 --> 0:31:09.756
<v Speaker 1>conference at the Hall of Justice, that's department headquarters downtown,

0:31:10.636 --> 0:31:13.076
<v Speaker 1>and while they didn't quite say that Roudah was the

0:31:13.156 --> 0:31:15.956
<v Speaker 1>suspect in the shootings or the murder, it was a

0:31:15.956 --> 0:31:19.156
<v Speaker 1>big show. The captain of the Major Crimes Bureau, the

0:31:19.236 --> 0:31:22.596
<v Speaker 1>Lost Hills Captain, a top official from California State Parks.

0:31:23.516 --> 0:31:26.916
<v Speaker 1>And now Roudah's being held without bail. And there are

0:31:26.916 --> 0:31:29.156
<v Speaker 1>two plain closed detectives in the front row of the

0:31:29.196 --> 0:31:33.316
<v Speaker 1>courtroom talking loudly about a fishing cabin. One of the

0:31:33.356 --> 0:31:36.196
<v Speaker 1>detectives has long gray hair and a beard, and is

0:31:36.196 --> 0:31:40.716
<v Speaker 1>wearing ship kickers and jeans. The other, lean, with sunken cheeks,

0:31:41.076 --> 0:31:44.076
<v Speaker 1>sneers at me when I try to say hello. Later,

0:31:44.356 --> 0:31:47.516
<v Speaker 1>I'll find out that the lean one is Detective Mark Donnell,

0:31:48.076 --> 0:31:49.996
<v Speaker 1>and that the one with the ship kickers is a

0:31:50.036 --> 0:31:55.396
<v Speaker 1>detective named Tye Barry, complicated guy a long and twisted

0:31:55.436 --> 0:31:59.036
<v Speaker 1>history with the Sheriff's Department. Donald and Barry are both

0:31:59.076 --> 0:32:07.796
<v Speaker 1>part of the Major Crimes Bureau and worked the Malibu case. Finally,

0:32:07.956 --> 0:32:11.796
<v Speaker 1>Rouda enters with a deputy in blue latex gloves gripping

0:32:11.836 --> 0:32:16.316
<v Speaker 1>his arm, guiding him to his seat. My first impression

0:32:16.316 --> 0:32:22.316
<v Speaker 1>of Anthony Rowta is he's pale, library pale an indoorsman,

0:32:23.356 --> 0:32:26.876
<v Speaker 1>not the weather beaten, leather skinned survivalist I'd been expecting.

0:32:27.796 --> 0:32:31.396
<v Speaker 1>His hair is dark and slicked back in individual lines

0:32:31.436 --> 0:32:36.596
<v Speaker 1>that look pencil drawn, a little goatee, blue jumpsuit, wrists

0:32:36.636 --> 0:32:41.236
<v Speaker 1>cuffed behind his back. He's separated from the rest of

0:32:41.236 --> 0:32:44.756
<v Speaker 1>the courtroom by a plexiglass partition. But he has something

0:32:44.796 --> 0:32:48.836
<v Speaker 1>he wants to say to the judge. Welcome to speed,

0:32:50.356 --> 0:32:52.876
<v Speaker 1>over defense objection, and I would ask if anything to

0:32:52.996 --> 0:32:59.756
<v Speaker 1>be off the record. That's Rounda's public defender attempting to intervene,

0:32:59.876 --> 0:33:05.796
<v Speaker 1>and that's the judge who looks exceptionally annoyed. I I

0:33:05.796 --> 0:33:09.276
<v Speaker 1>want to speak. You don't have rights to speed, but

0:33:09.396 --> 0:33:11.636
<v Speaker 1>he's seeking through your return No I'm not going to speak.

0:33:11.756 --> 0:33:13.556
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to cooperate with the pub defenders opposee

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<v Speaker 1>anymore's thousand okason. On that one, Rowdah hurls himself against

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<v Speaker 1>the plexiglass piece of ship. You're a piece of ship,

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<v Speaker 1>bitch sharks that motherfucker. The bailiff calls for help and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of deputies appear. They kick all the reporters out,

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<v Speaker 1>but they forget about the microphones that have been placed

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<v Speaker 1>on a podium at the front of the courtroom. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Rowdah tells the judge to go fuck himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my client is a little over brought, having

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<v Speaker 1>been in custody. Fuck you. He seems mad at everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge, the DA, the bailiff, even as public defender

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<v Speaker 1>the one person who wants to help him. Roudah appears desperate, furious, trapped,

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<v Speaker 1>He's thrashing about in the fluorescent light of this dingy,

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<v Speaker 1>cold courtroom. He reminds me of the mountain lions hemmed

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<v Speaker 1>in stressed out. A dangerous ghost is a gaining session.

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<v Speaker 1>Several weeks later, when I see route end coourt, he's

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<v Speaker 1>undergone a disturbing transformation. He's strapped to a restraint chair,

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<v Speaker 1>his face covered by a mesh mask to stop him

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<v Speaker 1>from spitting at the deputies. His head laws to one

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<v Speaker 1>side as if he's under heavy sedation. I noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>the public defender who Route has been trying to fire,

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<v Speaker 1>is gesturing to me. He wants me to come talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him in a quiet corner at the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the courtroom. I got the information, unfortunately under sealed, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I can't He's talking about the discovery, the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>provided by the Sheriff's department about the weapon and ammunition

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<v Speaker 1>that Routa was arrested with. I don't think they've got

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<v Speaker 1>the ballistics or anything. In other words, he doesn't think

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<v Speaker 1>they have enough to charge Routo with murder. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what direction you're going in there checked

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<v Speaker 1>any others. I don't know any It means to be

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<v Speaker 1>ricky okay, because I don't think this killer is the shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a killer out there, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't even be guessing. I don't know what his

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<v Speaker 1>family situation was. I don't know if there was any arrivals.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's anything else something wrong Skid

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do. He's crazy. That was so much pressure that

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<v Speaker 1>they had to arrest somebody. I think they got the

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<v Speaker 1>crisy guy. They probably want him in custody so that

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<v Speaker 1>that they can get the sky interest or somebody doctor him,

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<v Speaker 1>get him corminating stuff. It's the only thing I can

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<v Speaker 1>figure because of these knots. It's unfair. He believes that

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<v Speaker 1>route is a sacrificial lamb, meant to appease the agitated

0:36:24.396 --> 0:36:41.236
<v Speaker 1>Malibu community. Anyway, just between him and when Tristan Boudett

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<v Speaker 1>was killed shot in Malibu Creek State Park in the

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<v Speaker 1>hour before dawn, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I found out about all the other shootings too. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the cops have arrested Anthony Rowda, a homeless guy living

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<v Speaker 1>behind the station, and they seem to want everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's all his fault, that he's the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy, a single efficient explanation for everything that's been

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I don't know what to believe, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's not the whole story. Could Anthony Rowda have

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<v Speaker 1>committed all these crimes? What was law enforcement doing this

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<v Speaker 1>whole time? How did Malibu turn into the killing zone