WEBVTT - Ep 330: Drowning In All The Opportunities ft. Diversity Inclusion Expert, Aiko Bethea 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:13.000 Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black. I feel better 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.360 and I'm wearing a brown and auditioning T shirt. Ambition, 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:19.279 hey man. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.440 Ambition, hayperthing girl, how you doing eggs? 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:24.959 On top of the birthday. So it turns out I 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.960 had an upper respiratory infection that I had to have 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.360 antibiotics for QQQ, I know, and for the first time 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.000 in like twenty years, they actually had to issue me 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:34.760 like an athma pump because I could not breathe for 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:39.920 a oh. They were like, girl, yeah, the audio something going, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.600 this is a thing going around. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.159 Well how was Kelly? And now you're making me want 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.040 to say Regis and Kelly? 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:46.800 How was Kelly? 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.159 Ryan saw you got to go on with her and 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:50.640 her husband? I do her husband. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.680 It was only by God's grace because the night before 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.600 I was still like I didn't because I didn't know 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.920 what was wrong with me. So I actually went some 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.280 of the all you know old head athmetics. Remember private 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.280 Team Missed. I remember back in the day when I 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.560 didn't have like my my prescription pump, I would go 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.600 to the CBS and get a Private Team miss which 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.240 is like a general pump, you know. So it's the 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:13.960 only thing that kept me from like hacking up along 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.520 and I was like, oh my gosh, I can breathe. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.679 And so but they were. I have to say, I've 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.520 been on a lot of sets and hands down the 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.960 nicest crew. Everyone was nice every single step of the way. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.200 I you know, and shout out to is his name Eddie. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.160 He was like the producer of my segment, and he 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.560 was saying that they're known as like the nicest show 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:42.000 in television. I mean, Kelly, oh my gosh, Kelly. Kelly 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.959 was saying, so Ryan is actually sick with COVID because 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.120 you know, so it was her husband Mark. Mark was nice. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.880 Kelly was nice. I mean, it was almost to the 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:56.200 point like do they beat y'all here? Because everybody they do, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:57.360 they beat y'all like to be. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:02.440 I'm just like, if they did, I think that's what 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.600 happened to the Ellen Show. It wouldn't be that nice. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:06.880 I know. But honest see what I tell you, they 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.160 were so nice, and you know, I had such a 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.640 good time and I had not felt that comfortable on 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.000 set like probably ever, just because they were so nice. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.720 And they're like, oh, we want you to come back 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.160 in January to do some tips. So I'll be back 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.000 in black congurunce. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.600 That's dope. Thank you, excited for you, and I'm glad 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.160 that you got better. Just some time for your birthday, girl, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:27.040 I was like. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.240 He had lived like this. I'm like, what is this yet? 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.160 It was so besides COVID because I got tested like 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:33.800 four times. I'm like, it's got to be the VID. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.760 It wasn't. It was just like I said, there's this 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.520 upper respiratory you know, it's flu season. It wasn't the flu, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.000 but there's some infection that's like floating around. And so 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:43.480 because of like. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.640 No other words to get sick, y'all be safe girl, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:47.360 where I'm still. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.760 Going to mask? Yeah, no, honestly I would suggest it. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.560 So I'm still I'm not fully like over, I'm like 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.720 ninety percent so I feel pretty good. But yeah, yesterday 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.280 was my birthday, and honestly it was one of my 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.080 best birthdays. Like it was nice because I had a 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.880 bunch of family and friends come before. If you guys 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.320 have not seen, my friend Cabrell forced us off to 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.400 do the cuffet challenge support I had the teach us 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:10.920 how to do. I know it's on my I. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.040 Did hard the way I finally did that trend and 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.320 I it took me like twenty minutes. I'm like, yeah, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.600 look hard, but it's like sick up your stomach and 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.920 pat your head at the same time, kind of a. 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.840 Cup it, you know, like that the Beyonce Like, no, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:24.560 I know the challenge. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, I just hadn't seen on your page yet. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:26.840 Yeah. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:28.720 So like, so first of all, he made us I'll 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.639 watch the tutorio like thirteen thousand times. And then poor 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.200 Melissa had to guide all these old folks like how baby, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.720 how do you put the news to go on? Hi? 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.000 She was like, oh my god, so she's leading in 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.800 the front. But we had such a good time. Honestly, 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:45.720 it was such a fun birthday. Yeah, like I you know, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.000 it was like it's my first without Jarell. And it 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.080 was nice because usually I would wake up in the 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.120 morning and like downstairs, as soon as you come downstairs, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.520 it'd be like he would have a present and balloons 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.720 and whatever. And Tracy remembered that, so, you know, I 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.760 came downstairs and there were my balloons, which was really nice. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.000 And I don't know, like it was just like I'm 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.280 in a space now where I'm simultaneously holding space for 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:12.120 both grief and gratefulness. You know, It's like I didn't 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.560 think you could hold both at the same time, and 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.920 I'm doing that. And so it was just such an 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.800 awesome birthday, just like really great food, Like all the 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.240 kids were here, like like I said, my Sunday's Supper crew. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.800 So it was just a really really really nice time 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.920 and I was just, yeah, it just was one of 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.360 my birth best birthdays yet. 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:34.920 And so I feel like getting sick was one of 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.480 my you know how when you had something big coming 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.320 up and you're like, please, lure not now. I had to. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.160 For the past two weeks, I have been cramming and 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:47.240 like working so hard because my Maybe money Maker Academy finally, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.000 I was transitioning it from I used to teach live 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.440 and you know tip. Now I'm doing an on demand course. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.479 So I was transitioning everything onto the platform that I'm using. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.919 And it was a two week grind and I was 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.560 up a launch day with Saturday, and you know, I 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.520 set the deadline myself and then but I got it 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.320 done and I'm so happy. Yeah, everything is going smoothly. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.000 I'm so happy that I made this transition. Transitions are hard, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.200 but I know, what's that thing you said, like you 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.560 want to make decisions now for like when pre pivot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.880 So this was more like a pre pivot and an 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.360 investment in like a you know, like a more expensive 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.680 platform and all of that. But I think it was 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.400 really smooth. I think all my experience as a manager, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:34.520 trying to like, you know, people would change can be 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.640 a little trying to tell the team, hey, we're going 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.440 to change the way we do things. That's how I 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.440 feel my bandy money Makers. I'm like, y'all, it's going 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.880 to be some stuff going on. You're gonna have to 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.719 think about what you're gonna do, and you're gonna have 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.279 to let me know, and it's gonna be fine. Yes, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.560 just do not be alarmed. And you know, I had 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.800 a couple of people who were alarmed in Panama. Of course, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.200 there's always going to be there's always a couple. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:57.719 I know. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.120 It's just like managing people, like it's just like being 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.240 a boss. I realize that now. Yeah, I'm really proud 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.600 of that. And a good friend of mine named Charity, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.640 she has a book that comes out tomorrow, so I 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.400 want to give her a quick shout out. This book 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.240 is phenomenal. She she came and talked to my makers 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.119 about it. It's called Power, The Rise of Black Women 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.240 in America. It is out tomorrow, and it's how black 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.520 women embody the American dream, defy oppression and win. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:26.080 So it is. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.520 Yeah, it's it's a wonderful book and it's really it 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.320 was challenging for her to find, I know, to like 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.120 get the agent and get the publisher and all of 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.720 that because I feel like we are so used to 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.800 stories of black women struggling. They were like, you want 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.400 to write a book about how black women are doing 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 great and thriving and you know, doing better than our 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.960 previous generations and all of that. And Charity is like, yes, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.520 I want to write a book like that. So she did, 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.760 and I'm so proud of her. Can we put the 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.320 link in our show note? Oh yes, I would love to. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.440 Yeah. So does she have like a book page like 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.240 you know, like or do we get you would directly from. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.320 She does not have the budget needs to playbook for 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:03.760 a book. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.400 And just because in case she had, like you know, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.840 like charity something such dot com or something like that, 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:10.480 you know. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.720 But no, I know I wish I had, like I 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.880 don't think so. But by the time you guys get 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.400 this episode, I will have the right link. If she 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.120 does have a landing page, I will have it there 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:20.640 for you. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.920 Well, can we talk about another book by a black 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.640 woman that was so transformative? 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:25.480 Yeah? 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:30.400 So I recently read have you heard of the NAP Ministry? Yes? 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.680 Oh MG, of course I love it. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.320 So so I've been following the nat Ministry on IGS 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.040 just you know, I honestly just thought it was like, oh, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.800 fun memes, memes. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. So 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.080 the woman's name who started the net Ministry, she calls 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.880 herself then the NAP Bishop, and it sounds like, oh 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:56.800 cute and kitchen. No, it is a political movement. She's 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.400 got a manifesto, a book called rest is Resistant. And 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.040 what I tell you, if you are a black woman, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.840 you need to read this. Get the Get the Get 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.560 the audiobook. It was so powerful. Like I'm someone who 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.120 y'all know, like like to read a lot, you know, 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.080 listen to a lot of books. But I one day 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.520 Usually that's like unheard of. Usually I'll listen to over 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:21.800 a few weeks or a week or so. No, all 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.920 in one day. I literally took a two hour walk 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.480 just so I can finish it. It was so powerful 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:32.199 her her like mono or mantra is rest is resistance 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.559 and we will rest. It is just so powerful. The 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.120 book is really just about how we were all overworked 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.480 and overwhelmed and that how you do not have to 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:46.000 earn rest, that is your divine birthright, and like we're 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.560 all doing too much and if we would all just 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.160 slow down just for a moment, you know that we 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.800 can live more fully, deeper, happier, more centered lives. It 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.559 is just it is a love letter to black women, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.880 you know, and I just I cannot recommend it enough. Yeah, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.760 Like honestly, I almost wept when I finished it, honestly, 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.319 Like that's how much it spoke to my spirit because 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.920 you know, I mean you already know you know an entrepreneur, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.719 which just it's you work so hard. And I'm not 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.120 saying you're not supposed to work hard, but sometimes we 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.480 lose sight of like wait, so when does it stop? 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.720 Like what is the end goal? Because sometimes work begets work, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.640 you know, And where do you draw the line in 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.439 the sand. And it was just such a beautiful book 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.120 that helped me to reshape and rethink what is it 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:39.880 that I'm working toward. Then how do I integrate rest more? 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.440 Because you hear me now, my voice sounds like this. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:43.679 I mean, if you're used to my voice, it's a 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.280 little huskier than normal. But I was sick because of 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.640 lack of rest. Honestly, I was getting sick. I felt it, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.880 and instead of resting, I pushed and pushed and pushed 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.800 until I got upper respiratory infection and had to use 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.160 an asthma pump for the first time in twenty years. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.439 Like and meanwhile, I don't have to work if I 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.280 don't want to. So it's not like, oh my gosh, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.240 s Tiffany, because how you gonna pay these bills? Girl? 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.880 How are you gonna So it's like, so I really 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.079 needed it, and I just I suspect that most of 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.920 y'all listening could use that book too. I cannot recommend 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.160 it enough. It's just it's just it's beautifully written. She's 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.200 a poet, so there's a lot of that's the sense 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:18.679 you get when you hear her read it to you. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.280 But it's just a really powerful book. Rest Is Resistance 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.400 by Tricia Well, we'll put the link in our our 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:31.160 show notes too. Tricia hersey h e r s E y. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.319 Yeah, I can't wait. I that one's on my list. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.040 I don't know how you get through so many books. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.079 TIF. I take walks too, but sometimes I just want 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.840 to listen to the birds. And I have a bad 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.679 habit of when I have a moment of peace, I'm like, oh, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.960 turn something on a podcast like audiobook and anyway, but 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.280 I will add it to the list. I will actually 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.160 listen to it, especially if it's only a couple hours long. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.040 Come on, yeah, it's only like about five And I'll 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.719 say this that like, so usually when I walk, I 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.000 usually I either listen to a book to your point, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.520 listen to the bird, talk to her friend. But typically 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.679 what I listen to books when i'm cleaning, you know, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.880 because I'm not gonna lie, well, I'm sure most of 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.319 us I hate cleaning, so a book helps me to 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:08.800 keep going. So that's what I was doing. I was 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.480 doing laundry and cleaning, and so it was like keep going, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.600 keep going. So that's what it helped, you know, like 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.559 to do so but yeah, so yeah, I just it 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.320 just like I said, it was just it was a delight. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.480 But certainly it was definitely an eye opener of like, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.280 what are you working toward again, Tifney, slow down. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.600 Yeah, I'm at this period now where I really get 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.840 that and I've incorporated. I've created this lifestyle that I 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.040 just love. I'm so protective of it. Yeah, you know, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.440 my my afternoons, I do take a lot of naps. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.360 I don't do this whole transformation of BNDY money Makers 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.920 has created a space where I'm not going to be 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.360 I'm not going to have to repeat myself and do 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.960 the same thing again and again unnecessarily, you know. So 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.160 we're always teaching lessons again and again. Live the fact 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.360 that now I pre recorded that and I can show 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.440 up and do the you know, do the group coaching 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.880 and give that guidance fresh like I'm and able to 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.560 say no to things and I but I also feel 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.640 like we all sometimes we are good at the whole 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.040 rest thing and the you know, taking care of ourselves, 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.160 and then there's like these cycles and you kind of 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.000 find yourself getting out of balance again, and that's where 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.320 you like need that book or need that reminder. So 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.520 I feel like this is going to be in my 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.520 survival kit of when I start, because I'm I mean, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.040 I got some stuff planned. I'm like, oh God, the 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.480 chaos is coming. So I can't wait to read that. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.800 I'm so grateful that not only that she that this 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.280 mystery is out there, but that their message seems to 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.160 be hitting, like we're absorbing it changing because of it. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.640 Why don't we have a guest today? Yeah, I'm excited 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.000 for you guys to meet. Well, we have a couple 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.480 of exciting things we have in house, B, a Q 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.079 and A. Finally, we are listening. We have our We've 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.720 selected some listeners to join us live on the show, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.640 which we'll have our first today, and then we also 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.200 have another special guest, Icobathia. And if you guys have 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:02.120 heard me rave about Ico. She is a diversity inclusion expert, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:06.440 one of the originals, and she is currently working at 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.040 like the biggest consulting firm I believe in Dee I Work, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.760 which is Brene Brown's organization. And if you know Brene Brown, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.800 I Goo is right there with her and she's gonna 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.400 come on and talk to us and I can't wait. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.600 Yes, she's up next. So we're gonna take a quick 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:26.559 break and then bring back Ico and we're back and 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:31.959 black from break, we have a special guest in our studio. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.840 I go, Bethia, Am I saying right now? 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:35.040 Right? 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.600 Last name? Right, Bethia, you are Yes, that's a very 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.960 juicy black name. But Fia, I can. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.520 Tell you stories about that name. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:48.440 But yes, So we're gonna welcome her into Bana Vision 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.079 and Mandra tell us a little bit bit more about. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:52.960 Yeah, give me that, Mike. Let me tell you all 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.520 about my friend Ico. I have been cyberstalking Ico for 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.640 probably the past couple of years, and it was when 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.079 I listen into an episode of Brenet Brown's Dared to 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.040 Lead podcasts and herd Ico on the podcast when I 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.959 knew we needed to have her on Brown Ambition. But 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.840 let me tell you a little bit about Ico. She 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.400 started her career as a grassroots community organizer. She has 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.760 worked for the City of Atlanta as an attorney alongside 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.400 someone y'all might know, Stacy Abrams. I don't know, little 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.880 just throwing that out there. Worked for the Bill and 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:27.040 Melinda Gates Foundations, where she started to first get where 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.200 she first started to get involved with the important work 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.640 of creating things like employee resource groups, leading some of 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.720 the organization's first conversations around race. Not because it was 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.720 her job description, but because she knew that was at 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.240 the core of what she wanted to demonstrate in her 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:46.720 life and work, she dove headfirst into that equity work 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.680 full time when she founded her own consulting firm, We 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.600 Love a Badass Entrepreneur. I Goo founded her very own 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.080 consulting firm called Rare Coaching, where she has consulted with 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.440 some of the biggest corporations globally around the country for sure, 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.520 and today she is a part of the Berne Brown 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.440 Education and Research Group, where she is also a senior 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.400 director at Frontline Solutions, which is a black owned consulting firm. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.480 Ico says she's guided by her unique background as a 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.160 black and Asian American woman, with her intrinsic values of 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.520 justice and loyalty, and her role as a mama of 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:26.080 two black sons. With this perspective, Iico's able to use 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.720 her passion and drive to create conversations and change around 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.240 race and equity in the communications and organizations. 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:34.360 That she serves. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.800 Glad to be here with y'all, So happy to have 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.520 you whoo all right, I Goo so as someone who 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.120 works with these organizations and helps them do better in 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.640 ways that make workplaces less hostile for black and brown workers. Right, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.120 what is that work like? And how do you are 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:54.040 you heartened by it? 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:54.200 Like? 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.400 Are you optimistic by the changes that you're seeing these 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.440 corporations make? Can you talk about that a little bit. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.960 Yeah. So, one thing I probably say to distinguish some 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.600 of the work I do is that I don't solely 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:09.240 center on when people say diversity equity inclusion work, but 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:14.360 I solely center on leadership development work period. And my 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.680 belief is that if you're a strong, competent leader, you're 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.320 going to have diverse, equable, inclusive teams and workplaces and 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.240 higher retention. Like you can't do one if you're not 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:30.160 a stellar leader period, a competent leader. If I were 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.040 only focused on equity or racial equity work or gender 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.480 equity work, I would probably be exhausted all the time. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.400 So you know, the emotional labor behind that mental labor 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:45.320 behind that is concentrated in being the work and doing 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:50.160 the work can be exhausting. So I appreciate doing leadership 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.960 work as well so that people can understand the sustainability 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.240 part and not just segregate it and say all that 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.480 d I work is over there. This doesn't have thing 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.160 to do with me. This is like the ex or 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.080 curricular work. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.360 I think that's really powerful. I'm glad you said that. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.920 It's like the it's the foundation of great leadership. It's 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.760 not something that you can just have your HR director. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:11.840 Do exactly, Mandy. 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.879 So where do you see like the biggest gaps where 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.800 I mean, I feel like there were so many promises 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:24.479 made during you know, after George Floyd and you know 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.800 we're here now. Where do you see the biggest gaps 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.440 where you find yourself saying this is where I need 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.640 to put my time and effort and energy into. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.320 I think it comes down a lot of it, especially 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.000 if I'm just focusing on the global north too. I 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.840 think it's about people not even having the time to 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:47.359 be human, because to be connected to folks, for me 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.160 to fully see Tiffany, for me to fully see Mandy, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.600 I need to actually not be so inundated in my 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.040 own brain about all the things I need to do. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.880 So when you're always just on a hamster will period 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.080 and there's not that space to one connect with people, 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.479 and there really isn't that space to check yourself and 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.880 also recognize the barriers that you're putting up for other 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:15.800 people like that takes self awareness, pausing introspection, and then 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:21.240 also the effort to retool and do something different. And 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.280 so I think in the workplace there just hasn't been 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.720 enough space for one people to be humane to themselves 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.920 or to other people. And then there's this other part 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.000 about just accountability. You're going to say you're doing all 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.000 this stuff, or we're this type of place to work, 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.280 but when people don't show up that way, or they're 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.160 really doing harm to other folks, and usually the same 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.840 people who look the same, who are less empowered in 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.480 society are the ones who are experiencing that harm. But 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.960 then there's no accountability. And sometimes in some workplaces there's 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.359 actually a reward to that, right you're not spending time 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.040 trying to hold the hands of your employees or get 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.400 to know them. You're just getting stuff done no matter 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.080 what the cost. Therefore you're getting more of the kudos 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.959 or the bonuses because you're selling more, you're working your 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.280 people harder, they're producing more, versus thinking about the way 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.680 that people experience the workplace, or that maybe you don't 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.919 have the highest retention rates or do you even have 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:19.280 lower retention rates when it comes to your brown and 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.240 black folks, your women, other folks, and no one notices 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:26.240 that because maybe there's only two in the organization anyway. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.080 How do you shift that perception? Because I mean, I 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.199 work for publicly traded companies and when I tell you 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.520 it's all about that quarterly you know report, What's Wall 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.320 Street going to say? How do our what are our margins? 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.119