Speaker 1: So let's clean out the sound fridge.
Speaker 2: Aw, we've got a bunch of great audio the crew
Speaker 2: got together that we didn't get to.
Speaker 1: This is an example.
Speaker 2: You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I
Speaker 2: really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly
Speaker 2: wacky member of the other ideology and feature them.
Speaker 1: But this one, I just think number one.
Speaker 2: There's so many of these, And the setup is you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to say, Wow, that's a person with real
Speaker 2: mental problems who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh,
Speaker 2: you're so brave. Clip number five Michael the.
Speaker 3: First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant oversent
Speaker 3: eggs included. And I want to be the first trans
Speaker 3: woman to have an abortion.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a
Speaker 3: uterine complex before cut the organs out of a willing,
Speaker 3: healthy trans masculine donor place them in my body. I
Speaker 3: will devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And
Speaker 3: I want to be the first trans woman to have
Speaker 3: an abortion.
Speaker 2: You are full on metal, ill and evil.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing that
Speaker 4: those are his plans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should lose their no, God, that is just sick.
Speaker 2: That's somebody who has terrible mental problems. And you're right,
Speaker 2: it is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking
Speaker 2: like an extreme example of the people you don't agree
Speaker 2: with in kind of act and then trying to pretend
Speaker 2: sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which
Speaker 2: I'm sure this does not. But though Joe Biden met
Speaker 2: with that poor, unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how
Speaker 2: down he was with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh
Speaker 2: well and bud Light thought it was important enough to
Speaker 2: make it part of their advertising campaign to their demise.
Speaker 2: But where did that video audio come from? I mean,
Speaker 2: how what platform was that on to even be they
Speaker 2: posted it online on I think it was TikTok wow,
Speaker 2: and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know, retweeted
Speaker 2: it or whatever. There's a lot of things that go
Speaker 2: into this phenomenon that's happening right now. But part of
Speaker 2: it is everybody needs to be famous or you know,
Speaker 2: seen or liked or whatever, and you know it's getting
Speaker 2: harder and harder to do. It's a crowded field, so
Speaker 2: you have to be so out there to get some
Speaker 2: attention and well, you talk about it's leading attention.
Speaker 4: Well, and he's talking about a willing, trans masculine man.
Speaker 4: So is that a woman who's becoming a man who
Speaker 4: doesn't want her puss anymore?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct, Oh yes, I don't.
Speaker 5: Math like this. This isn't working in my head.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I got to admit at some point, and
Speaker 2: I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was
Speaker 2: describing who he was going to do what with and
Speaker 2: that they were trans this and masculine, I was I
Speaker 2: was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of,
Speaker 2: like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party?
Speaker 2: Because I'm lost, for instance, who's.
Speaker 5: Bringing the sperm and the bonus hols to this party?
Speaker 2: Oh boy, again with that term. Oh oh, So. I
Speaker 2: saw a bud Light commercial I think was it was
Speaker 2: during the All Star Game, which, as we record, this
Speaker 2: was last night, and I didn't watch much of it
Speaker 2: because my beloved Giants have angered me and I'm just
Speaker 2: not a baseball fan anymore. I'm but the bud Light
Speaker 2: commercial and they never enunciated it, but it was like
Speaker 2: people screwing up.
Speaker 1: A guy, you know, dropping the meat on the way
Speaker 1: to the grill.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the specifics, and somebody spilling something, and
Speaker 2: then somebody breaking something, and then it went to bud Light.
Speaker 2: So easy to drink, so easy to enjoy, And it
Speaker 2: didn't occur to me until I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: they're making light of the fact that they really fed up,
Speaker 2: and their commercial theme is look at everybody. Everybody f's
Speaker 2: up now and again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the
Speaker 2: ground is not the same as making a decision. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there were a half dozen or more people involved
Speaker 2: in of a giant marketing campaign. Yeah, not to.
Speaker 1: Take this too serious, leave it very briefly.
Speaker 2: What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is
Speaker 2: that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in
Speaker 2: the bud Light marketing became convinced, perhaps because they're personally
Speaker 2: down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny
Speaker 2: but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical
Speaker 2: gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then reality which bat's last. Speaking of baseball, I said,
Speaker 2: not so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any
Speaker 2: other beer. Well, let's keep cleaning out the sad fridge.
Speaker 2: Thanks metal guy. Ah, let's see. Oh, Michael, do you
Speaker 2: want to introduce clip eleven? Is there anything we need
Speaker 2: to know?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and he has four
Speaker 7: dollars with him and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh.
Speaker 7: He basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts
Speaker 7: and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he
Speaker 7: explains how how he got him.
Speaker 1: Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted.
Speaker 2: She gave me a deal. I could get cold strawberry
Speaker 2: donuts for the price of one, and I decided, can
Speaker 2: I get two for that deal?
Speaker 5: So I could to pipe my month.
Speaker 8: Of you.
Speaker 5: I wanted some munchkins, but they didn't have that either.
Speaker 2: She gave me the right.
Speaker 5: You all of them.
Speaker 2: There is a tool really pleased poor dollars. That is
Speaker 2: one very pleased woman with the number of cheap donuts
Speaker 2: you got. Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain too.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal
Speaker 2: How are we gonna make this right? I'm asked people,
Speaker 2: the manager.
Speaker 5: Please Karen in the making.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, how are we gonna make this right? It's
Speaker 2: because I'm black, right, or a child or a woman
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 5: E being racistly out of munchkins.
Speaker 2: He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something.
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that. You send them trans didn't you,
Speaker 2: And that's why you wouldn't make more of these? Would
Speaker 2: you like me to go public line? Oh God, give
Speaker 2: him as many donuts as he wants to get him
Speaker 2: out of here, Michael, any introduction necessary to twelve Katie
Speaker 2: might be able to relate to this. This is when
Speaker 2: a guy gives you mixed signals. He is why he's
Speaker 2: giving you mixed signals.
Speaker 9: He's even unsure about you the relationship or boy, if
Speaker 9: he's truly interested, he'll put in the effort consistently. So
Speaker 9: don't waste your time on a guy who's indecisive. Your
Speaker 9: job is not to convince someone, but to find someone
Speaker 9: who doesn't need convincing. If a guy stop talking to you,
Speaker 9: remember this quote. If your absence doesn't bother them, your
Speaker 9: presence never mattered to them. You don't belong with someone
Speaker 9: who doesn't want you. He's done you a favor by
Speaker 9: eliminating himself.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Spitting truth.
Speaker 5: No, my reaction is duck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex
Speaker 2: and the City ever came up with. That whole he's
Speaker 2: just not that into me thing as opposed to torturing
Speaker 2: yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well,
Speaker 2: why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or
Speaker 2: they always I've just been so busy, don't you know.
Speaker 2: Don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it.
Speaker 2: They just they don't dig you that much, So move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie.
Speaker 2: We don't know you well, we've only worked together a
Speaker 2: fairly short time, but you do strike me as more
Speaker 2: tethered to reality as opposed to what you wish were
Speaker 2: reality than some folks.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like
Speaker 4: if you're dating somebody and they aren't calling you back,
Speaker 4: and this is the fifth time that he says, oh
Speaker 4: I was busy, Hello, wake up. But I think it's
Speaker 4: pretty obvious he doesn't want to talk to you.
Speaker 2: It's tough, though, if you really really want something to
Speaker 2: be true, though, to let go of that, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's easier said yeah, oh yeah, that's why you have
Speaker 2: to like rededicate yourself to clinging to reality over and
Speaker 2: over again in your life. If he isn't being bothered
Speaker 2: by your absence, he didn't care much about your presence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's pretty good that Yeah, no kidding, right, Gun doubled
Speaker 2: me over. Oh and let's end on a positive note,
Speaker 2: shall we, Michael, why don't you go ahead.
Speaker 1: And roll thirteen?
Speaker 2: Then I've got the details if we need him? Well,
Speaker 2: it means you want to do murder mystery.
Speaker 1: Oh, I just always love.
Speaker 10: I do a little bit of TikTok and when so,
Speaker 10: I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a second one.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna gift it on there and see if we
Speaker 10: can get you a little bit of love on there.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 10: Thanks, I want to thank everybody for the love and
Speaker 10: the kindness on the video. That red post is totally unexpected.
Speaker 2: I'm in shock.
Speaker 10: I don't even know what to say about it at
Speaker 10: the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it.
Speaker 10: Thank you again for all the kindness.
Speaker 1: So here's the story.
Speaker 2: This gent who is He looks to be I would
Speaker 2: say in his sixties, well into his sixties. He's a
Speaker 2: retired man, a veteran of the Armed Services, and he
Speaker 2: is living his lifelong dream of being an author. But
Speaker 2: he was sitting alone and ignored at a folding table
Speaker 2: at his local grocery store in Texas with his novel,
Speaker 2: hoping people might ask him about it or if he
Speaker 2: could sign a copy or something like that. That's I
Speaker 2: don't come across that. That often tables with novelists sitting there,
Speaker 2: and the image heartbreaking? Are you interested in my novel?
Speaker 2: I gotta get out to my car.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: And you're right, Katie, I have this weird thing where
Speaker 2: if I'm like at a craft fair, Judy and I,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever the August days or whatever the what
Speaker 2: sits festival, and I'll walk through the craft fair and
Speaker 2: it hurts my heart, like everybody who's sitting there alone
Speaker 2: in their booth being ignored, some old lady who who
Speaker 2: paints glass and puts a little string on it that
Speaker 2: you can hang from something. Yeah, and nobody and nobody's
Speaker 2: nobody's coming by her booth, and you know she puts
Speaker 2: a lot of time and effort into that, and put
Speaker 2: some time and effort to showing up to the little
Speaker 2: you know, garlic festival, and yeah, it's painful for me too.
Speaker 2: The guy with the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it'
Speaker 2: it's painful anyway, And I don't have the heart to say,
Speaker 2: wake up, granny, nobody's interested in your colored glass. Oh
Speaker 2: oh folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless.
Speaker 5: Jack runs around screaming at grannies.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: So uh this TikToker, uh shaw Jared Sweringen. He he
Speaker 2: walked into the store and he sees this guy and
Speaker 2: he wonders what's going on, and he figures out he's
Speaker 2: got a book to sell it on and he walks
Speaker 2: back out to his car and he says to himself,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back in and talk to him.
Speaker 2: And so he talked to him, and he videoed him,
Speaker 2: and as he said in the caption, he said, you
Speaker 2: know what, let me put this on my TikTok.
Speaker 1: Maybe we would get you some love.
Speaker 2: The guy describing his book and everything Think rockets to
Speaker 2: the top of the best seller lists. The freaking power
Speaker 2: of the Internet. Is a book any good model? Or
Speaker 2: is it just a whole bunch of people feeling like
Speaker 2: you were describing where we feel bad for the old guy.
Speaker 2: He tried to write a novel. It's a dream, you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 4: It happened so quickly, I would imagine they probably went
Speaker 4: straight to Amazon and gave him a high rating. But
Speaker 4: his books did sell out that day as well. It
Speaker 4: was a dark and stormy night.
Speaker 2: Lee Howard and the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner. Sounds good.
Speaker 2: Are the hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy
Speaker 2: boys are in it? That would be a copyright infringement, Jack,
Speaker 2: But it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the
Speaker 2: help of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents.
Speaker 2: All right, it's all telling stuff, man, all the execution
Speaker 2: obviously pelling stuff. Okay, that's ultimately a story about kindness
Speaker 2: and the kind spirit of a humanity. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: I think it is, unless it turns out his TikToker
Speaker 2: dude demanded a cut. Oh, somebody is going to the
Speaker 2: Internet's gonna get a hold of the old guy and
Speaker 2: find out anything he's ever done untoward in his life.
Speaker 2: No change the story around.
Speaker 4: No nursery stores a weird spot for a book signing,
Speaker 4: it is, That's what I'm saying, you're trying to reach
Speaker 4: the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books
Speaker 4: the table.
Speaker 2: So I walked by the one table says can you
Speaker 2: give us some money for youth sports? And then I
Speaker 2: got him to the other table. It's a guy with
Speaker 2: a novel I don't.
Speaker 5: And then on the way out, you're being sold chocolate bars.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got to get some some ground beef for the
Speaker 2: hamburgers tonight.
Speaker 1: You gotta get buns and.
Speaker 2: Ketchup, and probably ought to find a good summer beach
Speaker 2: rad too. An obscure novel, said nobody, but sounds good.
Speaker 2: I mean they solved the murder of her parents. Favor that, right,
Speaker 2: if it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that mayonnaise was past it to date. I'm glad I
Speaker 2: didn't open it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show,
Speaker 2: my son brought up I thought we were gonna eat
Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot.
Speaker 2: He's been wanting to try Rocky Mountain oysters, which have
Speaker 2: you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person.
Speaker 2: They probably don't have Rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there. No,
Speaker 2: I have not had Rocky Mountain oysters. But it was
Speaker 2: as common as anything could be as bar food for me,
Speaker 2: like in college and that sort of stuff. Cow testicles
Speaker 2: fried up, and I told my son we'd try them
Speaker 2: when we were back in which you taught us see
Speaker 2: Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot to wait. Well next time.
Speaker 2: Oh darn, you know me. I believe it's karmically unacceptable.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I don't belong to any religion
Speaker 2: that forbids me from eating any particular foods. But I've
Speaker 2: crafted my own set of beliefs, and I will not
Speaker 2: eat another man's even if it is a cow man.
Speaker 1: I will not eat another creature's testicules.
Speaker 4: What about juggling them, I asked, Because I did that.
Speaker 4: I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did.
Speaker 4: They were quite slick.
Speaker 2: M That is one of my favorite things you've ever said.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig
Speaker 2: testicles for charity. They were quite slick.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The feed loss in Western Kansas used to once or
Speaker 2: so they'd have what they called a ball fry because
Speaker 2: they had such a so many of them built up
Speaker 2: over a year of castration. Had a ball fry, and
Speaker 2: that's everybody would come out, and that's how you go
Speaker 2: through them all. Well, I suppose it is putting them
Speaker 2: to use as opposed to just throw them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wasting or juggling them like some sort of savage.
Speaker 4: It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with
Speaker 4: the intestines after.
Speaker 2: It was a long day. Oh my lord. Yeah.
Speaker 4: We called it the meat circus. It was a whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what was the charity?
Speaker 5: I can't remember what it was.
Speaker 4: It was something that was going against PETA, though I
Speaker 4: remember donating to like I think it was a butcher
Speaker 4: shop or something.
Speaker 2: So we were a fundamentalist militia. The charity wasn't The
Speaker 2: charity wasn't neuticles for ball less hogs? Was it that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So
Speaker 2: this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from
Speaker 2: Saturday Night. The the idea because these rocky Mountain oysters,
Speaker 2: you can get him with your cheeseburger, where you've got
Speaker 2: fries or that or whatever, and they did you see
Speaker 2: the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live James Broland.
Speaker 2: That's what makes so funny. One of the greatest actors
Speaker 2: of all time playing the lead role. Anyways, he's throwing
Speaker 2: a very fancy party and he has a shrimp tower
Speaker 2: and it's just, you know, a little shrimp built up
Speaker 2: to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he called it
Speaker 2: the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought, I'm very funny.
Speaker 2: That is dryly hilarious. That is funny.
Speaker 1: I'll have to seek that out.
Speaker 2: So we're about to play a clip at John Cougar
Speaker 2: mellencamp uh talking at a concert. Is this one of
Speaker 2: the concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob
Speaker 2: Dylan or is he on his own here on his
Speaker 2: own hair? So he's touring with I know he's going
Speaker 2: to be I think at the Hollywood Bowl in LA
Speaker 2: which I'd like to see melonhead Willie Nelson and the
Speaker 2: ancient Bob Dylan. Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared
Speaker 2: to Willie Nelson, who just turned ninety, right, it's got
Speaker 2: to be something when he sings. I was just reading
Speaker 2: the set list on these concerts, and Willie sings among
Speaker 2: these classics. Funny, how time slips away? Did it slip away?
Speaker 2: You've been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away.
Speaker 2: Something happened to you when you were thirty, Eh, it
Speaker 2: was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But
Speaker 2: I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much the songs you expect, melonhead sings, pink houses,
Speaker 2: and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder why
Speaker 2: he's touring. A couple of years ago, he said he
Speaker 2: had no interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't
Speaker 2: particularly want to hear new music or new versions of
Speaker 2: old songs, that's fine.
Speaker 1: He had no interest in being a juke.
Speaker 2: He did get a tooth knocked out by his kid,
Speaker 2: like a year or so ago. Did that cause him
Speaker 2: any financial difficulties? He and his son got a fistfight.
Speaker 1: I don't imagine he can afford basic dentistry. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea of his financial wherewithal.
Speaker 2: Why is will he doing it? That's just what he does.
Speaker 2: I don't think he can imagine any other life right,
Speaker 2: And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the
Speaker 2: world would they play more shows, much less launch a
Speaker 2: giant tour. Well, I think Willie, that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Will he's paying off his tax debts, right. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he still has that, But that story was
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Michael. But he also he travels with
Speaker 2: his sons. I've watched some of the videos from the
Speaker 2: bus and his kids are like sixty so, but he
Speaker 2: travels with the sons who are in the band too,
Speaker 2: so it's probably probably a pretty good time. I mean,
Speaker 2: what would be better than that? Really? Actually, I can't
Speaker 2: think of anything that would be better than that. So,
Speaker 2: and then Bob Dylan. I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is exactly. He doesn't need the money or the
Speaker 2: acclaim or the Maybe he likes hotels. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But John Cougar is on stage for a while, and
Speaker 2: do we need to know anything else about that? No,
Speaker 2: he starts, he's just talking to the crowd. Okay, here
Speaker 2: we go, and she went.
Speaker 8: It's just like he ready to be a smart like
Speaker 8: when I'm talking to Jesus.
Speaker 2: And then it got real quiet.
Speaker 6: What do you think, I mean an, hey, Joe, find
Speaker 6: this guy and then they see him after the show. Anyway,
Speaker 6: before I was a celubating, ruptured.
Speaker 2: Guys. I can stopped this show right now.
Speaker 11: I'm just doing.
Speaker 2: Since you've been so wonderful. IM had to cut about
Speaker 2: ten songs.
Speaker 4: Out of the show.
Speaker 2: So that's a tape of did he actually leave? Wow?
Speaker 2: And he actually left? That's not cool. Don't let an
Speaker 2: a hole and the show. So you heard that the
Speaker 2: crowd was entirely on your side? Was one guy? So
Speaker 2: it's into a story. Some guy play some music, which
Speaker 2: is hurtful if you're telling a story that you think
Speaker 2: is either funny or important or something like that. Right,
Speaker 2: and but yeah, I think the rest of the crowd
Speaker 2: was at least willing to listen to your story, if
Speaker 2: not enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week.
Speaker 1: No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed
Speaker 1: at the joke and everything. It was just fine.
Speaker 4: And some of them even went ah, hey at the
Speaker 4: guy who interrupted him.
Speaker 2: A lot of people did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then he plays like six bars of Jack and leaves.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's old and bitter.
Speaker 5: I enough time for that.
Speaker 2: I have thought about this a lot. I so on
Speaker 2: Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the TV show
Speaker 2: he had in the same week. I think John Mellencamp
Speaker 2: and John Prine. If you don't know Joan Prine, he
Speaker 2: was a very old singer songwriter who never had commercial
Speaker 2: success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by people
Speaker 2: who like music anyway. He died COVID, but had him
Speaker 2: on both that week. So they're both super old and
Speaker 2: at the end of their careers. And it struck me
Speaker 2: how John Prine had what I hope I can have
Speaker 2: when I'm old, but I don't think I can because
Speaker 2: I don't even have it now. He just had. He
Speaker 2: just had like a rye. This is kind of funny,
Speaker 2: isn't it? View of old I mean, this is almost
Speaker 2: amusing what this is like, the health problems and the
Speaker 2: this and the that, and the kids and the marriage
Speaker 2: and just the way these songs were like that too.
Speaker 2: But John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter It went by
Speaker 2: too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But
Speaker 2: just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty,
Speaker 2: you know, that sort of thing, And I thought those
Speaker 2: are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You
Speaker 2: either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and
Speaker 2: marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really
Speaker 2: bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was.
Speaker 2: And I just thought that was interesting, and I think
Speaker 2: heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well,
Speaker 2: let me start with this. Was playing golf the other
Speaker 2: day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend
Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit. One of the most
Speaker 2: cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in
Speaker 2: the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just
Speaker 2: made like that, and it's it's an amazing blessing. And
Speaker 2: I commented to my buddy, who also has a more
Speaker 2: than one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids
Speaker 2: knows you come out of the womb like that, or
Speaker 2: you don't. I've always said, and this number is pulled
Speaker 2: out of my imagination that you got maybe about fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty percent around the edges. You can push yourself in
Speaker 2: this way or push yourself in that way, but you
Speaker 2: are who you are.
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his
Speaker 2: old age? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either. You're I think you're right about that.
Speaker 2: And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go
Speaker 2: fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more
Speaker 2: cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference
Speaker 2: in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying my body, his name is Dan, I was born annoyed.
Speaker 2: I'm never going to be Dan, right, And I love
Speaker 2: the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my
Speaker 2: acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him,
Speaker 2: and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know,
Speaker 2: and I try, I've tried to be honest about this
Speaker 2: with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute
Speaker 2: our good qualities to choice and our bad qualities to genetics.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got a strength of character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the good things about me are because I
Speaker 2: chose to be that way and I worked hard to
Speaker 2: be that right. I gotta admit when I when I
Speaker 2: was taking in the two different attitudes about growing over
Speaker 2: and your and your your best days being behind you.
Speaker 2: I related to the emotions of John Mellencamp a lot
Speaker 2: more than John Bryn. I'd like to be like John Bryan,
Speaker 2: but I feel in my head, in my heart more
Speaker 2: like John Mellencamp, whatever reason, because I think I'm born
Speaker 2: that way. I was, this is where I am. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then there's the question of epigenetics, which is one
Speaker 2: of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics,
Speaker 2: but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes.
Speaker 2: You try to end up with a half cat half
Speaker 2: dog sort of situation.
Speaker 1: Is that what that is? Yeah, that's that's right exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you
Speaker 2: have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or
Speaker 2: you run into them, that those switches might be flipped.
Speaker 2: But if you don't go through those things, they won't
Speaker 2: be If your environment is you have good nutrition or whatever,
Speaker 2: it'll never.
Speaker 1: Manifest itself itself.
Speaker 2: It's not like the entirety of who you are is
Speaker 2: determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays
Speaker 2: a role too in various ways. But you know, we're
Speaker 2: in the early days of really understanding that stuff. I
Speaker 2: just remember so they both sang songs that week and
Speaker 2: on Prime Song at that time. This is the last
Speaker 2: album before he died. I think it was When I
Speaker 2: Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there something
Speaker 2: about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilted whirl,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long. It's
Speaker 2: it's like looking back on the best parts of your
Speaker 2: life and wanting to relive them, or getting to smoke
Speaker 2: cigarette again. And John Couer had a line in his
Speaker 2: song and all your best efforts don't amount to anything anymore,
Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, that's just such two different views
Speaker 2: of where you are at the end of your career.
Speaker 2: And one of you is happy and one of you
Speaker 2: is miserable. But like you said, maybe you can't control that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting acceptance is
Speaker 2: that how much of that is inborn, your capacity to
Speaker 2: just accept your life and it's reality. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: a really bitter old person. I think I'm pretty bitter
Speaker 2: young person. Yeah, well I can see that I will
Speaker 2: be quite self deprecating, but a bitter old person. The
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Speaker 12: Fathers get a day, but we get a month of
Speaker 12: alphabet soup. I like to the alternate people, what I
Speaker 12: don't think that's society is this.
Speaker 2: I think that's the point of Pride Month. And that's
Speaker 2: so it's all due respect to my my gay friends
Speaker 2: who are uniformly with the meme I saw the other day.
Speaker 1: LGB is all we need.
Speaker 2: The rest is not us well, and it's not just
Speaker 2: a month, as you know, there are a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of other weeks and days around the same theme throughout
Speaker 2: the years, so it's not just a month a year,
Speaker 2: ye know.
Speaker 1: But fathers get a day.
Speaker 2: And the reason that popped into my mind is we
Speaker 2: have some kind of Father's Day related stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it would have been better then because fathers only
Speaker 2: get one day. Then you ought to shut up about
Speaker 2: the importance of fathers. Hey, you weren't here on Friday
Speaker 2: when Katie and I and Michael had the discussion that
Speaker 2: we've had for many years of looking for a Father's
Speaker 2: Day card and trying to find one that's not a
Speaker 2: joke about flatulence or drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's
Speaker 2: Day cards are all you know, there are some joke
Speaker 2: Mother's Day cards, but there's tons of how important and
Speaker 2: valued and crucial mothers are. Dad's Day cards are all
Speaker 2: jokes about yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true.
Speaker 2: So anyway, why would be we be in the least
Speaker 2: hesitant to continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that
Speaker 2: sort of thing. Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan Cassas Casas.
Speaker 2: He's a Boston Red Sox player telling a story about
Speaker 2: his dad.
Speaker 8: So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young,
Speaker 8: I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still,
Speaker 8: I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and
Speaker 8: get out there and get some son right. And you know,
Speaker 8: I get out one day and I come back to
Speaker 8: the dug out crying, pissed. And you know, that's that's
Speaker 8: what a six year old does. He sits on the
Speaker 8: bench and he cries, and he doesn't want to go
Speaker 8: out there when you know his team's playing defense. So
Speaker 8: my dad, you know, being the dad that he is
Speaker 8: trying to teach me the lessons that he did in
Speaker 8: his own special way, came into the dugout. He actually
Speaker 8: grabbed me by my shirt dragged me to the line
Speaker 8: and Looney Tunstyle kicked me out onto the field and
Speaker 8: actually had one of my best friends that I went
Speaker 8: to high school with later he ended up playing pro ball.
Speaker 8: His mom actually called child Services on my dad at
Speaker 8: the field. No, no, no, for there's no joke at the field.
Speaker 8: I see my dad go away in the cop car
Speaker 8: gets arrested. Send the nice of joke here. But that day,
Speaker 8: that day, my dad taught me a super valuable lesson
Speaker 8: that not not a lot of people know. And it's
Speaker 8: that I had a responsibility to my teammates, I had
Speaker 8: a responsibility to my coaches, to the parents that showed
Speaker 8: up that day, all the fans who were at that
Speaker 8: little league game, whatever it may be, to go out
Speaker 8: there and my best effort, no matter how I was
Speaker 8: feeling on the bench, no matter what I was going
Speaker 8: through that day, or whatever little hardship that I was
Speaker 8: feeling when I got out, that I still apply every
Speaker 8: single time, because sometimes I just want to sit down
Speaker 8: on this bench after I get out, and I want
Speaker 8: to weave and I want to cry. But that's that's
Speaker 8: not how baseball is. So yeah, I love my dad
Speaker 8: to death. I wouldn't have this opportunity without him. But yeah,
Speaker 8: funny little excerpt that's about that. That's the type of
Speaker 8: that my dad is. So that's true.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: I like the Looney Tuthes reference that it is.
Speaker 2: An amazing story.
Speaker 4: That took a turn though she called CPS and they
Speaker 4: actually spent the night in jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, did.
Speaker 1: Not see that coming.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good story.
Speaker 2: Also, like the fact that he's six and he said
Speaker 2: the reason he was playing was to burn calories and
Speaker 2: to get some sun. I never thought about that when
Speaker 2: I was six, and I better work off this pop
Speaker 2: tart cool second shot with chip cookie was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's that's funny.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that,
Speaker 2: you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the
Speaker 2: roles overlap. But when little Johnny skins his knee, Mom is,
Speaker 2: oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like, you'll be fine,
Speaker 2: You'll be great, and that whole And I remember my
Speaker 2: dad was my baseball coach a lot too, and he
Speaker 2: would come out to the mound when I was pitching,
Speaker 2: and I've said this told this story before too. He'd
Speaker 2: say get this guy out, or I'm gonna pull you.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus
Speaker 2: me and to say, you know, you have a job
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Here is what it is. I'm not out of here.
Speaker 2: I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay,
Speaker 2: because telling you go do it is telling you everything's
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. Telling you I You're fine, go run
Speaker 2: and play is that's a empowering message. To look at
Speaker 2: me a man to man, even as like a fifteen
Speaker 2: year old, and say focus, get this guy out.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't. Plus you know, as I've said before, I
Speaker 2: was like you, damn right, I'm getting this guy out.
Speaker 2: You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what
Speaker 2: coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is. Now,
Speaker 2: it can cross the line into being an a hole
Speaker 2: if you're a bad coach.
Speaker 1: But it was a very good coach.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Anxiety.
Speaker 4: It's going to cause anxiety. This is reminding me of
Speaker 4: a story my dad told me. He played football in
Speaker 4: high school and my grandfather. His dad was a surgeon,
Speaker 4: and my dad took a cleat to the shin during
Speaker 4: a game and my granddad sewed him up in the
Speaker 4: in the team team locker room and then said get
Speaker 4: your ass back out there.
Speaker 2: And this was during this of war. Yeah, pretty much,
Speaker 2: I as well been.
Speaker 1: Mid sixties.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup
Speaker 2: for clip twelve?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, this is just where we're headed if this woke
Speaker 4: crap continues.
Speaker 11: Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just
Speaker 11: wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if
Speaker 11: you consent to it.
Speaker 2: Of course I don't. I don't consent.
Speaker 11: Well, I was thinking maybe in an hour or so,
Speaker 11: if you're up to it, me and your other non
Speaker 11: gender specific parent can sit in the living room and
Speaker 11: breathe for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you.
Speaker 11: Of course, you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered
Speaker 11: by that or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know
Speaker 11: what to feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey,
Speaker 11: Oh my god, did you just call me honey?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 11: I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this.
Speaker 11: I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well,
Speaker 11: maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to
Speaker 11: live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me
Speaker 11: because my feelings are more important than all of our
Speaker 11: physical well beings. Okay, well, I'm gonna go into the
Speaker 11: living room and cry I love you.
Speaker 2: You don't have to say it back. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to wow.
Speaker 1: Parent and child in the year twenty sixty.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm feeling anymore.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, I gotta ask how hard did he kick him?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The boy looking back is he's full of love and
Speaker 2: he did the right thing and laughing about it, So yeah,
Speaker 2: he does. I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: that's quite a story.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 7: They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limny Tunes cartoons.
Speaker 1: Occasionally it was borderline brutality. Michael, you quit right, The
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