1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: So let's clean out the sound fridge. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: Aw, we've got a bunch of great audio the crew 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: got together that we didn't get to. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: This is an example. 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: You could call it nutpicking, which is an expression I 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: really don't like. It's where you pick out a particularly 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: wacky member of the other ideology and feature them. 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: But this one, I just think number one. 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: There's so many of these, And the setup is you're 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: not supposed to say, Wow, that's a person with real 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: mental problems who needs help. You're supposed to say, oh, 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: you're so brave. Clip number five Michael the. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: First trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant oversent 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: eggs included. And I want to be the first trans 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: woman to have an abortion. 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: I will let a doctor who has successfully transplanted a 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: uterine complex before cut the organs out of a willing, 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: healthy trans masculine donor place them in my body. I 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: will devote myself, heart and soul to their aftercare. And 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: I want to be the first trans woman to have 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: an abortion. 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: You are full on metal, ill and evil. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: And any doctor who would perform that surgery knowing that 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: those are his plans. 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should lose their no, God, that is just sick. 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: That's somebody who has terrible mental problems. And you're right, 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: it is not picking to a certain extent, it's taking 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: like an extreme example of the people you don't agree 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: with in kind of act and then trying to pretend 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: sometimes that it represents a large point of view, which 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure this does not. But though Joe Biden met 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: with that poor, unfortunate Dylan mulvaney character to show how 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: down he was with the trans folks, absolutely, and uh 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: well and bud Light thought it was important enough to 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: make it part of their advertising campaign to their demise. 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: But where did that video audio come from? I mean, 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: how what platform was that on to even be they 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: posted it online on I think it was TikTok wow, 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: and the people who compile crazy progressives, you know, retweeted 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: it or whatever. There's a lot of things that go 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: into this phenomenon that's happening right now. But part of 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: it is everybody needs to be famous or you know, 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: seen or liked or whatever, and you know it's getting 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: harder and harder to do. It's a crowded field, so 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: you have to be so out there to get some 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: attention and well, you talk about it's leading attention. 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: Well, and he's talking about a willing, trans masculine man. 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: So is that a woman who's becoming a man who 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: doesn't want her puss anymore? 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? Correct, Oh yes, I don't. 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: Math like this. This isn't working in my head. 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I got to admit at some point, and 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: I'll bet I'm not the only one. As he was 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: describing who he was going to do what with and 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: that they were trans this and masculine, I was I 58 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: was like, I need a chart. I'm losing track of, 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: like who's who's going to bring the sperm to this party? 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: Because I'm lost, for instance, who's. 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: Bringing the sperm and the bonus hols to this party? 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Oh boy, again with that term. Oh oh, So. I 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: saw a bud Light commercial I think was it was 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: during the All Star Game, which, as we record, this 65 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: was last night, and I didn't watch much of it 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: because my beloved Giants have angered me and I'm just 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: not a baseball fan anymore. I'm but the bud Light 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: commercial and they never enunciated it, but it was like 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: people screwing up. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: A guy, you know, dropping the meat on the way 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to the grill. 72 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: I can't remember the specifics, and somebody spilling something, and 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: then somebody breaking something, and then it went to bud Light. 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: So easy to drink, so easy to enjoy, And it 75 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: didn't occur to me until I was like, oh, oh, 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: they're making light of the fact that they really fed up, 77 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: and their commercial theme is look at everybody. Everybody f's 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: up now and again, Yeah, dropping the ribs on the 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: ground is not the same as making a decision. I'm 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: sure there were a half dozen or more people involved 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: in of a giant marketing campaign. Yeah, not to. 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: Take this too serious, leave it very briefly. 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: What the bud Light is a beautiful example of is 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: that Anheuser Busch, or at least the people involved in 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: the bud Light marketing became convinced, perhaps because they're personally 86 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: down with it, but became convinced that that very tiny 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: but outsized minority of Americans who pitches all this radical 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: gender theory stuff represents most people. They got fooled. Yeah, 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: and then reality which bat's last. Speaking of baseball, I said, 90 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: not so much. We'll drink any other beer, literally, any 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: other beer. Well, let's keep cleaning out the sad fridge. 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: Thanks metal guy. Ah, let's see. Oh, Michael, do you 93 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: want to introduce clip eleven? Is there anything we need 94 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: to know? 95 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: Oh? 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 97 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 7: A kid goes into Dunkin Donuts and he has four 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 7: dollars with him and he wants some strawberry donuts and uh. 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 7: He basically ends up wanting to get a few donuts 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 7: and ends up with the whole box. Okay, so he 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 7: explains how how he got him. 102 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Because they didn't have the type of donut I wanted. 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: She gave me a deal. I could get cold strawberry 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: donuts for the price of one, and I decided, can 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: I get two for that deal? 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: So I could to pipe my month. 107 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 8: Of you. 108 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: I wanted some munchkins, but they didn't have that either. 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: She gave me the right. 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 5: You all of them. 111 00:05:52,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: There is a tool really pleased poor dollars. That is 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: one very pleased woman with the number of cheap donuts 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: you got. Wow, our sun drives a hard bargain too. 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: What do you mean you're out of munchkins? Holy cal 115 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: How are we gonna make this right? I'm asked people, 116 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: the manager. 117 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: Please Karen in the making. 118 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, how are we gonna make this right? It's 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: because I'm black, right, or a child or a woman 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: or something. 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: E being racistly out of munchkins. 122 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: He's gonna end up running a hedge fund or something. 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that. You send them trans didn't you, 124 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: And that's why you wouldn't make more of these? Would 125 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: you like me to go public line? Oh God, give 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: him as many donuts as he wants to get him 127 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: out of here, Michael, any introduction necessary to twelve Katie 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: might be able to relate to this. This is when 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: a guy gives you mixed signals. He is why he's 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: giving you mixed signals. 131 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 9: He's even unsure about you the relationship or boy, if 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 9: he's truly interested, he'll put in the effort consistently. So 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 9: don't waste your time on a guy who's indecisive. Your 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 9: job is not to convince someone, but to find someone 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 9: who doesn't need convincing. If a guy stop talking to you, 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 9: remember this quote. If your absence doesn't bother them, your 137 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 9: presence never mattered to them. You don't belong with someone 138 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 9: who doesn't want you. He's done you a favor by 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 9: eliminating himself. 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 141 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Spitting truth. 142 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: No, my reaction is duck. 143 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's one of the best things that Sex 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: and the City ever came up with. That whole he's 145 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: just not that into me thing as opposed to torturing 146 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: yourself for both men and women, as opposed to torturing yourself. Well, 147 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: why somebody is you know, didn't call you back or 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: they always I've just been so busy, don't you know. 149 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: Don't tie myself into knots because I've done this over it. 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: They just they don't dig you that much, So move on. 151 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not shocked to hear you say that, Katie. 152 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: We don't know you well, we've only worked together a 153 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: fairly short time, but you do strike me as more 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: tethered to reality as opposed to what you wish were 155 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: reality than some folks. 156 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I appreciate that, and I feel like 157 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: if you're dating somebody and they aren't calling you back, 158 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: and this is the fifth time that he says, oh 159 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: I was busy, Hello, wake up. But I think it's 160 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: pretty obvious he doesn't want to talk to you. 161 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: It's tough, though, if you really really want something to 162 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: be true, though, to let go of that, I mean, 163 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: that's easier said yeah, oh yeah, that's why you have 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: to like rededicate yourself to clinging to reality over and 165 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: over again in your life. If he isn't being bothered 166 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: by your absence, he didn't care much about your presence. Yeah, 167 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: that's pretty good that Yeah, no kidding, right, Gun doubled 168 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: me over. Oh and let's end on a positive note, 169 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: shall we, Michael, why don't you go ahead. 170 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: And roll thirteen? 171 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: Then I've got the details if we need him? Well, 172 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: it means you want to do murder mystery. 173 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I just always love. 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 10: I do a little bit of TikTok and when so, 175 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 10: I think I'm gonna go ahead and get a second one. 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 10: I'm gonna gift it on there and see if we 177 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 10: can get you a little bit of love on there. 178 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: Oh. 179 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 10: Thanks, I want to thank everybody for the love and 180 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 10: the kindness on the video. That red post is totally unexpected. 181 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm in shock. 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 10: I don't even know what to say about it at 183 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 10: the moment. I'm trying to wrap my head around it. 184 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 10: Thank you again for all the kindness. 185 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: So here's the story. 186 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: This gent who is He looks to be I would 187 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: say in his sixties, well into his sixties. He's a 188 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: retired man, a veteran of the Armed Services, and he 189 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: is living his lifelong dream of being an author. But 190 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: he was sitting alone and ignored at a folding table 191 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: at his local grocery store in Texas with his novel, 192 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: hoping people might ask him about it or if he 193 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: could sign a copy or something like that. That's I 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: don't come across that. That often tables with novelists sitting there, 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: and the image heartbreaking? Are you interested in my novel? 196 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I gotta get out to my car. 197 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. 198 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: And you're right, Katie, I have this weird thing where 199 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: if I'm like at a craft fair, Judy and I, 200 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: you know, whatever the August days or whatever the what 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: sits festival, and I'll walk through the craft fair and 202 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: it hurts my heart, like everybody who's sitting there alone 203 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: in their booth being ignored, some old lady who who 204 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: paints glass and puts a little string on it that 205 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: you can hang from something. Yeah, and nobody and nobody's 206 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: nobody's coming by her booth, and you know she puts 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: a lot of time and effort into that, and put 208 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: some time and effort to showing up to the little 209 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, garlic festival, and yeah, it's painful for me too. 210 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: The guy with the nice cutting boards whatever, I just it' 211 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: it's painful anyway, And I don't have the heart to say, 212 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: wake up, granny, nobody's interested in your colored glass. Oh 213 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: oh folks abuse, Oh lord, soulless. 214 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: Jack runs around screaming at grannies. 215 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Anyway. 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: So uh this TikToker, uh shaw Jared Sweringen. He he 217 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: walked into the store and he sees this guy and 218 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: he wonders what's going on, and he figures out he's 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: got a book to sell it on and he walks 220 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: back out to his car and he says to himself, 221 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I keep thinking about this guy. 222 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back in and talk to him. 223 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: And so he talked to him, and he videoed him, 224 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: and as he said in the caption, he said, you 225 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: know what, let me put this on my TikTok. 226 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we would get you some love. 227 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: The guy describing his book and everything Think rockets to 228 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: the top of the best seller lists. The freaking power 229 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: of the Internet. Is a book any good model? Or 230 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: is it just a whole bunch of people feeling like 231 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: you were describing where we feel bad for the old guy. 232 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: He tried to write a novel. It's a dream, you 233 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: know what. 234 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: It happened so quickly, I would imagine they probably went 235 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: straight to Amazon and gave him a high rating. But 236 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: his books did sell out that day as well. It 237 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: was a dark and stormy night. 238 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: Lee Howard and the Ghosts of Simmons Pierce Manner. Sounds good. 239 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Are the hardy boys in it? Sounds like the hardy 240 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: boys are in it? That would be a copyright infringement, Jack, 241 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: But it's a ghost, an orphaned girl who uses the 242 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: help of ghostly companions to solve the murder of her parents. 243 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: All right, it's all telling stuff, man, all the execution 244 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: obviously pelling stuff. Okay, that's ultimately a story about kindness 245 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: and the kind spirit of a humanity. That's what it is. 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: I think it is, unless it turns out his TikToker 247 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: dude demanded a cut. Oh, somebody is going to the 248 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: Internet's gonna get a hold of the old guy and 249 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: find out anything he's ever done untoward in his life. 250 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: No change the story around. 251 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 4: No nursery stores a weird spot for a book signing, 252 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: it is, That's what I'm saying, you're trying to reach 253 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: the pickles, and this guy's sitting there with his books 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 4: the table. 255 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: So I walked by the one table says can you 256 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 2: give us some money for youth sports? And then I 257 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: got him to the other table. It's a guy with 258 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: a novel I don't. 259 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 5: And then on the way out, you're being sold chocolate bars. 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Right exactly. Well, but inside the story even you're thinking, yeah, 261 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: I got to get some some ground beef for the 262 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: hamburgers tonight. 263 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: You gotta get buns and. 264 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Ketchup, and probably ought to find a good summer beach 265 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: rad too. An obscure novel, said nobody, but sounds good. 266 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean they solved the murder of her parents. Favor that, right, 267 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: if it gone unsolved, it'd be disappointed. Well, right, yeah, 268 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: I guess these sound. Fridge is now reasonably clean. Yeah, 269 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: that mayonnaise was past it to date. I'm glad I 270 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: didn't open it. Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong and Getty show, 271 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: my son brought up I thought we were gonna eat 272 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain oysters when we were in Kansas, and I forgot. 273 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: He's been wanting to try Rocky Mountain oysters, which have 274 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: you ever been anywhere, Katie. You're a lifetime Bay Area person. 275 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: They probably don't have Rocky Mountain oysters anywhere there. No, 276 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: I have not had Rocky Mountain oysters. But it was 277 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: as common as anything could be as bar food for me, 278 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: like in college and that sort of stuff. Cow testicles 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: fried up, and I told my son we'd try them 280 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: when we were back in which you taught us see 281 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: Grandma and Grandpa, but we forgot to wait. Well next time. 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: Oh darn, you know me. I believe it's karmically unacceptable. 283 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I don't belong to any religion 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: that forbids me from eating any particular foods. But I've 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: crafted my own set of beliefs, and I will not 286 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: eat another man's even if it is a cow man. 287 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: I will not eat another creature's testicules. 288 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: What about juggling them, I asked, Because I did that. 289 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: I juggled pig testicles for charity. Oh really I did. 290 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: They were quite slick. 291 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: M That is one of my favorite things you've ever said. 292 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't see that coming. I juggled pig 293 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: testicles for charity. They were quite slick. 294 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 295 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: The feed loss in Western Kansas used to once or 296 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: so they'd have what they called a ball fry because 297 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: they had such a so many of them built up 298 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: over a year of castration. Had a ball fry, and 299 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: that's everybody would come out, and that's how you go 300 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: through them all. Well, I suppose it is putting them 301 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: to use as opposed to just throw them. 302 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, wasting or juggling them like some sort of savage. 303 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: It was entertaining. So now we played tug war with 304 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: the intestines after. 305 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: It was a long day. Oh my lord. Yeah. 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: We called it the meat circus. It was a whole thing. Yeah, 307 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: what was the charity? 308 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: I can't remember what it was. 309 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: It was something that was going against PETA, though I 310 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: remember donating to like I think it was a butcher 311 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: shop or something. 312 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: So we were a fundamentalist militia. The charity wasn't The 313 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: charity wasn't neuticles for ball less hogs? Was it that? 314 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, weird circular logic thing there. Uh So 315 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: this reminded me of a Saturday A Live bit from 316 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: Saturday Night. The the idea because these rocky Mountain oysters, 317 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: you can get him with your cheeseburger, where you've got 318 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: fries or that or whatever, and they did you see 319 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: the shrimp tower skit on Saturday Night Live James Broland. 320 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: That's what makes so funny. One of the greatest actors 321 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: of all time playing the lead role. Anyways, he's throwing 322 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: a very fancy party and he has a shrimp tower 323 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: and it's just, you know, a little shrimp built up 324 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: to the shape of a tower. Anyway, he called it 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: the thinking Man's mozzarella Stick, which I thought, I'm very funny. 326 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: That is dryly hilarious. That is funny. 327 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I'll have to seek that out. 328 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: So we're about to play a clip at John Cougar 329 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: mellencamp uh talking at a concert. Is this one of 330 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: the concerts that he's doing with Willie Nelson and Bob 331 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: Dylan or is he on his own here on his 332 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: own hair? So he's touring with I know he's going 333 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: to be I think at the Hollywood Bowl in LA 334 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: which I'd like to see melonhead Willie Nelson and the 335 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: ancient Bob Dylan. Of course, Bob Dylan's not ancient compared 336 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: to Willie Nelson, who just turned ninety, right, it's got 337 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: to be something when he sings. I was just reading 338 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: the set list on these concerts, and Willie sings among 339 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: these classics. Funny, how time slips away? Did it slip away? 340 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: You've been on ninety years. I don't think it slipped away. 341 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Something happened to you when you were thirty, Eh, it 342 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: was sixty years ago. It didn't just slip away. But 343 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: I thought the set list would be interesting. It's not. 344 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: Really. 345 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: It's pretty much the songs you expect, melonhead sings, pink houses, 346 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: and you know that sort of stuff. I wonder why 347 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: he's touring. A couple of years ago, he said he 348 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: had no interest in being a jukebox. If people didn't 349 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: particularly want to hear new music or new versions of 350 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: old songs, that's fine. 351 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: He had no interest in being a juke. 352 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: He did get a tooth knocked out by his kid, 353 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: like a year or so ago. Did that cause him 354 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: any financial difficulties? He and his son got a fistfight. 355 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't imagine he can afford basic dentistry. But I 356 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea of his financial wherewithal. 357 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: Why is will he doing it? That's just what he does. 358 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't think he can imagine any other life right, 359 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: And like Keith Richards the Rolling Stones, why in the 360 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: world would they play more shows, much less launch a 361 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: giant tour. Well, I think Willie, that's what they do. 362 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: Will he's paying off his tax debts, right. I don't 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: know if he still has that, But that story was 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, Michael. But he also he travels with 365 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: his sons. I've watched some of the videos from the 366 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: bus and his kids are like sixty so, but he 367 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: travels with the sons who are in the band too, 368 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: so it's probably probably a pretty good time. I mean, 369 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: what would be better than that? Really? Actually, I can't 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: think of anything that would be better than that. So, 371 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: and then Bob Dylan. I don't know what Bob Dylan's doing. Yeah, 372 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: he is exactly. He doesn't need the money or the 373 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: acclaim or the Maybe he likes hotels. I don't know. 374 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: But John Cougar is on stage for a while, and 375 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: do we need to know anything else about that? No, 376 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: he starts, he's just talking to the crowd. Okay, here 377 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: we go, and she went. 378 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 8: It's just like he ready to be a smart like 379 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 8: when I'm talking to Jesus. 380 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: And then it got real quiet. 381 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 6: What do you think, I mean an, hey, Joe, find 382 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 6: this guy and then they see him after the show. Anyway, 383 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 6: before I was a celubating, ruptured. 384 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: Guys. I can stopped this show right now. 385 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 11: I'm just doing. 386 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: Since you've been so wonderful. IM had to cut about 387 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: ten songs. 388 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: Out of the show. 389 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: So that's a tape of did he actually leave? Wow? 390 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: And he actually left? That's not cool. Don't let an 391 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: a hole and the show. So you heard that the 392 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: crowd was entirely on your side? Was one guy? So 393 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: it's into a story. Some guy play some music, which 394 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: is hurtful if you're telling a story that you think 395 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: is either funny or important or something like that. Right, 396 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: and but yeah, I think the rest of the crowd 397 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: was at least willing to listen to your story, if 398 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: not enthusiastic about it. Yeah, that was week. 399 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: No, it sounded like they were with him. They laughed 400 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: at the joke and everything. It was just fine. 401 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 4: And some of them even went ah, hey at the 402 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: guy who interrupted him. 403 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people did. 404 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 405 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: So then he plays like six bars of Jack and leaves. 406 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 407 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's old and bitter. 408 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: I enough time for that. 409 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: I have thought about this a lot. I so on 410 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: Charlie Rose, which I miss a lot, the TV show 411 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: he had in the same week. I think John Mellencamp 412 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: and John Prine. If you don't know Joan Prine, he 413 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: was a very old singer songwriter who never had commercial 414 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: success like John Mellencamp, but was hugely adored by people 415 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 2: who like music anyway. He died COVID, but had him 416 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: on both that week. So they're both super old and 417 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: at the end of their careers. And it struck me 418 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: how John Prine had what I hope I can have 419 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: when I'm old, but I don't think I can because 420 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't even have it now. He just had. He 421 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: just had like a rye. This is kind of funny, 422 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: isn't it? View of old I mean, this is almost 423 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: amusing what this is like, the health problems and the 424 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: this and the that, and the kids and the marriage 425 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: and just the way these songs were like that too. 426 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: But John Mellencamp was clearly a bitter It went by 427 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: too fast, sad, and I relate to those feelings. But 428 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: just you know, I wish I wish I were still thirty, 429 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: you know, that sort of thing, And I thought those 430 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: are there's two really good examples. Has nothing to do 431 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: with being famous. Of how you approach getting older. You 432 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: either just accept it and kind of enjoy it and 433 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: marvel at its everything that's it's evolved, or be really 434 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: bitter that you're not thirty and cool anymore, like Mellencamp was. 435 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: And I just thought that was interesting, and I think 436 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: heard a little of it there. Yeah, I think, Well, 437 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: let me start with this. Was playing golf the other 438 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: day and we saw some distance away a mutual friend 439 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit. One of the most 440 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: cheerful guys you've ever met. This guy wakes up in 441 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: the morning, cheerful, he goes to bed cheerful. He's just 442 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: made like that, and it's it's an amazing blessing. And 443 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: I commented to my buddy, who also has a more 444 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: than one kid, I said, anybody who's raised multiple kids 445 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: knows you come out of the womb like that, or 446 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: you don't. I've always said, and this number is pulled 447 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: out of my imagination that you got maybe about fifteen 448 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: twenty percent around the edges. You can push yourself in 449 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: this way or push yourself in that way, but you 450 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: are who you are. 451 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: And I just I don't know. 452 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: Could John Mellencamp have ever been John Prine in his 453 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: old age? Maybe? 454 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 455 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: I don't know either. You're I think you're right about that. 456 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: And at fifteen and twenty percent, you could either go 457 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: fifteen percent more bitter and awful or fifteen percent more 458 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: cheerful and optimistic, and that that makes a big difference 459 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: in your life. I'm not saying it's insignificant. I'm just 460 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 2: saying my body, his name is Dan, I was born annoyed. 461 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm never going to be Dan, right, And I love 462 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: the guy and we're good friends. Actually, I think my 463 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: acerbic eye rolling view of the world is amusing to him, 464 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: and blah blah whatever it works. The one thing I know, 465 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: and I try, I've tried to be honest about this 466 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: with myself. All of us want, all of us attribute 467 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: our good qualities to choice and our bad qualities to genetics. 468 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 469 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: I got a strength of character. 470 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the good things about me are because I 471 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: chose to be that way and I worked hard to 472 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: be that right. I gotta admit when I when I 473 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 2: was taking in the two different attitudes about growing over 474 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: and your and your your best days being behind you. 475 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: I related to the emotions of John Mellencamp a lot 476 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: more than John Bryn. I'd like to be like John Bryan, 477 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: but I feel in my head, in my heart more 478 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: like John Mellencamp, whatever reason, because I think I'm born 479 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: that way. I was, this is where I am. Yeah. 480 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: And then there's the question of epigenetics, which is one 481 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: of my favorite things I've ever learned. You have your genetics, 482 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: but then you've got a bunch of things in your genes. 483 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: You try to end up with a half cat half 484 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: dog sort of situation. 485 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: Is that what that is? Yeah, that's that's right exactly. 486 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it's there are like triggers that you 487 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: have genetically, and if certain things happen to you or 488 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: you run into them, that those switches might be flipped. 489 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: But if you don't go through those things, they won't 490 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: be If your environment is you have good nutrition or whatever, 491 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: it'll never. 492 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Manifest itself itself. 493 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: It's not like the entirety of who you are is 494 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: determined by your genetics. Your experience in your life plays 495 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: a role too in various ways. But you know, we're 496 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: in the early days of really understanding that stuff. I 497 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: just remember so they both sang songs that week and 498 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: on Prime Song at that time. This is the last 499 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: album before he died. I think it was When I 500 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: Get to Heaven. And there's a line in there something 501 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: about I'm gonna kiss that pretty girl on the tilted whirl, 502 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna smoke a cigarette that's nine miles long. It's 503 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: it's like looking back on the best parts of your 504 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: life and wanting to relive them, or getting to smoke 505 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: cigarette again. And John Couer had a line in his 506 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: song and all your best efforts don't amount to anything anymore, 507 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, that's just such two different views 508 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: of where you are at the end of your career. 509 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: And one of you is happy and one of you 510 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: is miserable. But like you said, maybe you can't control that. 511 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting acceptance is 512 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: that how much of that is inborn, your capacity to 513 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: just accept your life and it's reality. I'm gonna be 514 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: a really bitter old person. I think I'm pretty bitter 515 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: young person. Yeah, well I can see that I will 516 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: be quite self deprecating, but a bitter old person. The 517 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, yeah, your shoe podcasts and 518 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: our hot links. 519 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 12: Fathers get a day, but we get a month of 520 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 12: alphabet soup. I like to the alternate people, what I 521 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 12: don't think that's society is this. 522 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the point of Pride Month. And that's 523 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: so it's all due respect to my my gay friends 524 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: who are uniformly with the meme I saw the other day. 525 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: LGB is all we need. 526 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: The rest is not us well, and it's not just 527 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: a month, as you know, there are a whole bunch 528 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: of other weeks and days around the same theme throughout 529 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: the years, so it's not just a month a year, 530 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: ye know. 531 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: But fathers get a day. 532 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: And the reason that popped into my mind is we 533 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: have some kind of Father's Day related stuff and you know, 534 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: maybe it would have been better then because fathers only 535 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: get one day. Then you ought to shut up about 536 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: the importance of fathers. Hey, you weren't here on Friday 537 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: when Katie and I and Michael had the discussion that 538 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: we've had for many years of looking for a Father's 539 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: Day card and trying to find one that's not a 540 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: joke about flatulence or drinking beer or watching TV. Mother's 541 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: Day cards are all you know, there are some joke 542 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: Mother's Day cards, but there's tons of how important and 543 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: valued and crucial mothers are. Dad's Day cards are all 544 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 2: jokes about yeah what I just said, Yeah, yeah, very true. 545 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, why would be we be in the least 546 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: hesitant to continue Father's Day thoughts or respect or that 547 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: sort of thing. Let's begin with Clip Tenant's Tristan Cassas Casas. 548 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: He's a Boston Red Sox player telling a story about 549 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: his dad. 550 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 8: So I'm in coach pitch and you know, I'm so young, 551 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 8: I don't really know what's going on at this point. Still, 552 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 8: I'm still just playing baseball just to burn calaries and 553 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 8: get out there and get some son right. And you know, 554 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 8: I get out one day and I come back to 555 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 8: the dug out crying, pissed. And you know, that's that's 556 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 8: what a six year old does. He sits on the 557 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 8: bench and he cries, and he doesn't want to go 558 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 8: out there when you know his team's playing defense. So 559 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 8: my dad, you know, being the dad that he is 560 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 8: trying to teach me the lessons that he did in 561 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 8: his own special way, came into the dugout. He actually 562 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 8: grabbed me by my shirt dragged me to the line 563 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 8: and Looney Tunstyle kicked me out onto the field and 564 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 8: actually had one of my best friends that I went 565 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 8: to high school with later he ended up playing pro ball. 566 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 8: His mom actually called child Services on my dad at 567 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 8: the field. No, no, no, for there's no joke at the field. 568 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 8: I see my dad go away in the cop car 569 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 8: gets arrested. Send the nice of joke here. But that day, 570 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 8: that day, my dad taught me a super valuable lesson 571 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 8: that not not a lot of people know. And it's 572 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 8: that I had a responsibility to my teammates, I had 573 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 8: a responsibility to my coaches, to the parents that showed 574 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 8: up that day, all the fans who were at that 575 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 8: little league game, whatever it may be, to go out 576 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 8: there and my best effort, no matter how I was 577 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 8: feeling on the bench, no matter what I was going 578 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 8: through that day, or whatever little hardship that I was 579 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 8: feeling when I got out, that I still apply every 580 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 8: single time, because sometimes I just want to sit down 581 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 8: on this bench after I get out, and I want 582 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 8: to weave and I want to cry. But that's that's 583 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 8: not how baseball is. So yeah, I love my dad 584 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 8: to death. I wouldn't have this opportunity without him. But yeah, 585 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 8: funny little excerpt that's about that. That's the type of 586 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 8: that my dad is. So that's true. 587 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: That. 588 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: I like the Looney Tuthes reference that it is. 589 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: An amazing story. 590 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: That took a turn though she called CPS and they 591 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: actually spent the night in jail. 592 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wow, did. 593 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Not see that coming. 594 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 595 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good story. 596 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Also, like the fact that he's six and he said 597 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: the reason he was playing was to burn calories and 598 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: to get some sun. I never thought about that when 599 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: I was six, and I better work off this pop 600 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: tart cool second shot with chip cookie was totally unnecessary. 601 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go play some baseball. Yeah, that's that's funny. 602 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: It reminds me of a conversation we've had before that, 603 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: you know, the and it's a cliche, and certainly the 604 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: roles overlap. But when little Johnny skins his knee, Mom is, 605 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: oh honey, oh no, and Dad's like, you'll be fine, 606 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: You'll be great, and that whole And I remember my 607 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: dad was my baseball coach a lot too, and he 608 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: would come out to the mound when I was pitching, 609 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: and I've said this told this story before too. He'd 610 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: say get this guy out, or I'm gonna pull you. 611 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: And it wasn't cruelty. It was a way to focus 612 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: me and to say, you know, you have a job 613 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: to do. 614 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: Here is what it is. I'm not out of here. 615 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm not out here to tell you everything's gonna be okay, 616 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: because telling you go do it is telling you everything's 617 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: gonna be okay. Telling you I You're fine, go run 618 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: and play is that's a empowering message. To look at 619 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: me a man to man, even as like a fifteen 620 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: year old, and say focus, get this guy out. 621 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 6: That's it. 622 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: That's a compliment shift we've experienced. Yeah, i'd say, oh yeah, 623 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: I can't. Plus you know, as I've said before, I 624 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: was like you, damn right, I'm getting this guy out. 625 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: You're not pulling me. And it's just it's that's what 626 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: coaching is. That's what man to man coaching is. Now, 627 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: it can cross the line into being an a hole 628 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: if you're a bad coach. 629 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: But it was a very good coach. 630 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Anxiety. 631 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 4: It's going to cause anxiety. This is reminding me of 632 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: a story my dad told me. He played football in 633 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: high school and my grandfather. His dad was a surgeon, 634 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: and my dad took a cleat to the shin during 635 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: a game and my granddad sewed him up in the 636 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: in the team team locker room and then said get 637 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: your ass back out there. 638 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: And this was during this of war. Yeah, pretty much, 639 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: I as well been. 640 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Mid sixties. 641 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: On the other hand, Katie, do we need any setup 642 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: for clip twelve? 643 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: Uh? 644 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: No, this is just where we're headed if this woke 645 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: crap continues. 646 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 11: Hey, non binary offspring, Hey, non gender specific parent, just 647 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 11: wanted to let you know that dinner is ready if 648 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 11: you consent to it. 649 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: Of course I don't. I don't consent. 650 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 11: Well, I was thinking maybe in an hour or so, 651 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 11: if you're up to it, me and your other non 652 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 11: gender specific parent can sit in the living room and 653 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 11: breathe for a little bit if it doesn't trigger you. 654 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 11: Of course, you know, I'm not sure if I'm triggered 655 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 11: by that or offended. I quite honestly, I don't know 656 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 11: what to feel anymore. Trust me, I don't know either. Honey, 657 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 11: Oh my god, did you just call me honey? 658 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 659 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 11: I am so sorry. That's harassment. Please don't tweet about this. 660 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 11: I already did. Well, it looks like my career is over. Well, 661 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 11: maybe think twenty times before you talk. We'll have to 662 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 11: live on the streets. Well, that doesn't matter to me 663 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 11: because my feelings are more important than all of our 664 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 11: physical well beings. Okay, well, I'm gonna go into the 665 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 11: living room and cry I love you. 666 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: You don't have to say it back. I'm not going 667 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: to wow. 668 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Parent and child in the year twenty sixty. 669 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. I don't know if I'm triggered or offended. 670 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm feeling anymore. 671 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: I can't believe that dude's dad spent the night in jail. Yeah, 672 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: all right, I gotta ask how hard did he kick him? 673 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 674 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: The boy looking back is he's full of love and 675 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: he did the right thing and laughing about it, So yeah, 676 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: he does. I don't know. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, wow, 677 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: that's quite a story. 678 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 11: You know. 679 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 7: They kicked each other pretty hard in those Limny Tunes cartoons. 680 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Occasionally it was borderline brutality. Michael, you quit right, The 681 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show