1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten, touched up Welcome to Chargers Weekly. 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Back at the Bolt. The following the combine, Jalil leda 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: here with me and Jalil as we go post combine, 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: a lot of movement. Obviously, we start with the biggest news, 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa no longer a charger just man. We talked 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: to joe Ortie's about it on Chargers Weekly. Brought up 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: how much everybody loves Joey, how they would try to 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: figure out if they could make something work. And I 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: think ultimately it's something that we address multiple times here 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: in the off season. You see the thirty six million 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: dollar number to bring him back, the twenty five million 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: in cap savings, if you move on, you took a 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: pickup last year, was there a way to do it again? 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: And it just kind of always felt like this is 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: where we were gonna end up. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said we touched base on it and just 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: looking at the numbers, right, the numbers didn't really. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: Fair on Joey's side. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, right. 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Obviously I came in with Joey. I came for Joey 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: obviously three years before him. I came in when he 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: was a rookie and he came in turned of the league. 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: He's done so much for the Chargers organization, He's done 24 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: so much for that bolt the teammate he is. Obviously 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: he was hampered with injuries, but this is the way 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: he plays the game, right, It's one hundred percent injury 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: rate type sport. We all know that. And I wish 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: Joey nothing but the best. Obviously, he's a great dude, 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: great teammate, friend of mine. But business is business. You know, 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: we talk on this podcast and we always say one 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: thing for sure that this is a business at the 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: end of the day, and the Chargers made the right 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: move for the organization, and Joey will have a plethora 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: of people to choose from coming. 35 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Up here soon. 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. And he should look when healthy. He's 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: quite simply in the conversation as the best all around 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, Miles hard to touch Miles Garret when you're 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: talking aout rushing past. But I think when you talk 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: about an all around defensive end when Joey is healthy, 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to step to what he's capable of doing. Unfortunately, 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: his body's betrayed him. Like you said, he's always played 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: all out, He's always coming to camp ready. He's always 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: been in shape. Like, there's nothing bad you can say 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: about the guy other than somebodies are all right with football, 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: somebody's aren't, and it just kind of depends. And sadly 47 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: these last few years it's been a rough go. But 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: like you said, wishing the best, I think we all 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: kind of have a pretty good idea of where he'd 50 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: like to go, of course, you know, and if they 51 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: can make it work out, I hope it. You know. 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody that wishes anything ill upon Joey, 53 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: And if it's with his brother at the forty nine 54 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: ers and they can make that happen, then I would 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: wish that upon him and that they have great success 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: and he rediscovers something where he's able to stay healthy 57 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: and you know, can perform. But like you said, the 58 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: business of it is twenty five million bucks added to 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the available cast space and the thirty six that you're 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: not paying out. And for me, what that just, what 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: that shows is just take it from here on this 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball and then right on the other 63 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: side of the ball, it's just going to go right 64 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: into Rashaun Slater's pocket like that. It just to me, 65 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: that's got to be the number one already of this 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: offseason is just getting that thing done, and it's gonna 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: be a huge number. And I think getting that twenty 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: five million off the books of Joey's can help that 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: become facilitated. 70 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: And when you look at it, you're like, hey, it's 72 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: literally on the other side of the ball. 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: It's a great analogy that you made. 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: But listen, Rayshawn Slater is the best or not one 75 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: of the best left tackles in the game. 76 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: He can play on both sides. 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: Obviously, having Justin Herbert behind center, you have to have 78 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: a brick wall in front of him. And listen, the 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: Chargers have enough and they've done enough, and we've seen 80 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: him do enough with less on defense right. 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: Week in and week out. 82 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Right, But one thing is for sure is that they're 83 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: gonna Justin is gonna get pressured over and over again. 84 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: And the way you keep him from being pressured is 85 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: you got to protect him. Right one plus one egals 86 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: two doesn't egals three doesn't eqal four. 87 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: Let's keep it simple. 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: We got to pay the guys who are going to 89 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: be there on Sundays, who are going to make sure 90 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: that Justin doesn't get hit. 91 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Look who's the most important person in the Chargers organization. 92 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: It's Justin Herbert. And I would assume if he thought 93 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: there was any issue, if Rashaun Slater wasn't going to 94 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: get extended and wasn't going to be here for the 95 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: next four to five years, depending on which contract he wants, 96 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: he's probably going to be in that office. He's going 97 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: to be sitting in that chair opposite George. He's his 98 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: desk saying, what are we doing here? Man? What? What? 99 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: What's what's the problem? Now? What are we thinking? How 100 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: much do we have in cas We got ninety five 101 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: million bucks in cab space and you're telling me I 102 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: can't take took his look if I don't know Rayshawn's agent, 103 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: But if I'm his agent, if I'm on the phone 104 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: with Joe, I'll just say, hey, look, you know where 105 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: this starts. Like he's he's an all pro and he's 106 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: in the conversations a buzz left tackle, so you know, 107 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: tackles are tackles. Tristan Wurf's got twenty eight point one 108 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: twenty five last year. Well, the bidding starts at twenty 109 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: eight point twenty five. 110 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's that's how it goes. 111 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: How would go That's how it works. And then it's 112 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: up to Rashawn, I think in the Chargers to figure 113 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: out if it's the Pina Suol contract which is four years, 114 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: or if it's the Tristan Worf's contract and it's five years. 115 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: All these guys are the same age. You know, Penae 116 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: is twenty five, Tristan's twenty for Shawna is twenty six. 117 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: So if I'm the Chargers, I want it to be 118 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: five years. Say that that is not a that is 119 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: not a position that I want to mess around with. 120 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: You saw it firsthand last year with the draft with 121 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Joe Alt and Latham and Fuaga and Fortani and the 122 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: list just went on and on and on. And you're 123 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: going to see it again this draft with Will Campbell 124 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: and Membo and it's gonna in Banks and that is 125 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: and you're going to see Gray Zabel in the first 126 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: round and Tyler Booker in the first round, and it 127 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: is just going to be another seven to eight offensive 128 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: lineman because the league has recognized that it's just mandatory 129 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: to protect your quarterback. 130 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: Protect your quarterback, and then you're building the trenches, and 131 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: you look at just off schedule a little bit. When 132 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: you talk about offensive line, I don't know, you protecting 133 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: your quarterback, you're creating lanes to run. 134 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: Like look at say Kwon Barklay and the deal that 135 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: he just got. 136 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: Obviously he's he's one of one at the running back position, 137 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: but he's you're not going anywhere without offensive line. 138 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: They're stacked across the. 139 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Border in that offense line, pensive line up. 140 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're creating increases, They're creating lanes for him 141 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: to run and allow him to do his thing once 142 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: he get into the second level, and that's where he's 143 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: a game breaker. So when you invest in your offensive line, 144 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: when you're invest in the trenches, it's not only protecting 145 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: your quarterback, but it's opening your offense in so many 146 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: different ways. 147 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: And I think you know, when you look at what's 148 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: sort of the conversation around the Chargers has been in 149 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: free agency, what's it been, it's been center, it's been guard. 150 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: In the draft, it's been center, it's been guard. The 151 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: last thing you need to do is add left tackle 152 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: to that for some whatever, for whatever reason that may be. 153 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, and I know this is going 154 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to be incredibly unpopular. But just you mentioned business like 155 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: as a as a businessman. If I'm looking at okay, wait, 156 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I get paying my quarterback fifty million bucks because I 157 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: can see all the number ten jerseys here. Of course 158 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I get. And we'll get into this in a second, 159 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: trading for DK Metcalf and handing him thirty million bucks 160 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: because when he's running sixty yards with that body catching touchdowns, 161 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: I know what it's going to feel like inside Sofi 162 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: State the fan and I don't. I don't mean this 163 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: as a sh shot. The fan doesn't connect with a 164 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: left tackle. They don't. They're not gonna wear number seventy jerseys. 165 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: They're not. But they don't understand how that the past 166 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a Metcalf doesn't happen. If Slater's not out there needing 167 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: zero help, you don't need to chick. I'll never forget 168 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that rep. It was like two years I think it 169 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: was his rookie year and I can't remember who. I 170 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: think it was against San Francisco when Chips were down, 171 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: everybody was hurt. It was a primetime game. I think 172 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: it was a Thursday night football game, or maybe a 173 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: Sunday night football game, but it was a primetime game 174 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, we really got this in primetime. 175 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: All these guys are hurt, and they almost pulled it 176 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: off and there was a rep and it was either 177 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: against both I think it might have been against Bosa 178 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: that Austin came over to chip and he knocked Slater 179 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: off the block and the guy got a pressure and 180 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Slater lost it. And from that moment forward. 181 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: I want no help. 182 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: There were no more chips. You got in my way. 183 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Don't come over here and help me shut out. And 184 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: that's that's who Slater is. I mean, that's and and 185 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: that's why I get the business side, like, wait a minute, 186 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: are we am I gonna sell any more season tickets 187 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: because I give Rashawn Slater twenty nine million? No, you're not, 188 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: but you are because you're gonna end up winning. You're 189 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: gonna win and it's gonna make Herbert that much better 190 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: of a quarterback. 191 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: So it's you always talk about offensive lineman being the 192 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: like unselfish players on the team, right dating back to 193 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: high school. 194 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: Right, everyone wants to score. 195 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: Everyone wants to they're naming the paper, they want you 196 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: want the line like you want to, Hey, look at me, 197 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: Look at me. 198 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: I did. But offensive lineman don't get that, right. 199 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: They do the dirty work, they do the grunt work, 200 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: and they never get a praise for it. But hey, 201 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: in the NFL, you do, you get a big fat check, exactly, 202 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: And that's all that matters. 203 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: Right now. He's gonna get a check. 204 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna be able to take care of 205 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: his family, generational and not only that, he deserves it 206 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: the way the body of work that he's put on 207 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: the field, the body of work that he's done playing 208 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: the left tackle, which is the hardest position in the 209 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: NFL other than playing cornerback. 210 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: On the island, it's it's similar, right cornerback and left tackle. 211 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: You're both on an island. 212 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: You're on the island against the most freakish guys defensive 213 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: end and a wide receiver in the world. Right, So 214 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: he's worth every penny. Like you said, you're not going 215 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: to see his jerseys in the stands. It's not going 216 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: to be flashy. But when you look at it from 217 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: a business mindset, when you look at it from the 218 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: top down, it makes the most sense. 219 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: It's funny you bring that up. I never really kind 220 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: of thought of it that way. But they're both going backwards. 221 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: They both have to react. They don't get to be 222 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: the aggressor. They have to be the reactor. And they're 223 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: doing it against the most freakish athletes on the field. 224 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: And that's why you're going to get at least twenty 225 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: eight point twenty five million bucks a year and protect 226 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: the most important asset in this organization for the next 227 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: five years. So I would love to see, you know, 228 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: there's so let's let's get into this. There's two things 229 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: that I would love to see get done. I know 230 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: everybody kind of once the Jets released Davante Adams, they're 231 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: getting into that idea. I'm not as if that's what 232 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: they choose to do. Great, I get it, But as 233 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: soon as this DK thing came out, it's like that 234 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: this lines up. Now, now DK lines up. He's twenty seven. 235 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: I think D seven DK more than than DeVante. Yeah, 236 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: for me, it does, just because I I think I 237 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: think from an age and an explosiveness standpoint. Don't get 238 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: me wrong, Like Davante is a tactician, he is as 239 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: good as anybody out there. But DK, it's just you 240 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's of course it's. 241 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: That he's he listened, he's Julio times two and size, 242 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: that's what I mean, right, So he's. 243 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: Julio in height, but he had probably weighs about ten 244 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: to fifty more pounds and muscle. 245 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: And he's right and he's out. 246 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: All you see his knees and elbows when he's coming back, right, 247 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: So I get it. I understand. I just DK's muster. 248 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm not taking anything from him. You have to game plan, 249 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: but I think you have to game plan just a 250 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: little bit more for DeVante Adams. 251 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: That's me. But longevity. 252 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: You might get Davante for maybe two right right, whereas 253 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: DK you can get. 254 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Him for four for bringing him in. He's gonna be like. 255 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: Him and Justin will be playing together for a long time. 256 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: And McConkey and McConkie, and that's what That's the other 257 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: thing too, is I think about you know, what's a 258 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver room, right, It's it's a basketball team, it's 259 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: point guard, it's power forward, it's a it's a swing 260 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: it's you know. So just to me, the matchup, the 261 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: matchup that a defense would have to come up with 262 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: to contend with DK as the X, and that that 263 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: vertical threat along with McConkie in the slot underneath like that, 264 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it just feels and then all of a sudden you 265 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: drop an explosive back in the backfield from this draft 266 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: and it's just like, Okay, last year we went out 267 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: there with what and this year you're going out there 268 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: with let's just say it's Omar and Hampton, right, or 269 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: it's Quin Shawn Judkins, like it's Brazil. It's September fifth. Yeah, 270 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: and you see the offensive break huddle and here's d 271 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: K at the X, McConkie at the slot. You know, 272 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: Q at the Z. Let's say, or it's a beautiful 273 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: or maybe it's like a Westbrook, a Kine or something 274 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: like that at the Z. And and you've got Omar 275 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: and Hampton standing behind Justin Herbert. Maybe it's even now 276 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: I'm really gonna get craw about Mason Taylor at tight end. 277 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying Like that to me is like, 278 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: hey man, it's. 279 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: All attainable to what you're saying. It's all attainable. 280 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: And I don't I don't want people to forget about Q 281 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: because I've been there, Like listen, yeah, you can say 282 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: what you want, but I've been in these two different 283 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: camps with Q, and I've seen his explosiveness. 284 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: I want to see him stretch the field more, right, 285 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: I don't even want to see drags. I don't want 286 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: to see. 287 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: So when you have DeVante Adams, you've got a guy 288 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: that can run every route tree. Then you have Makonki 289 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: in the inside and he can play outside if you 290 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: need him to. But he's a shippy guy on the 291 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: inside still can take the top off from the slot right, 292 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: And then you have Q on the outside who's explosive. 293 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: He's a fast guy who can take the top off. 294 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't I mean, you can't go wrong with either, right, 295 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: I know you love him, you're loving Metcalf, but short term. 296 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, my only fear with Q is I just think 297 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: it's now been two years. I'm not saying it can't change, 298 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: but I think we feel like we know what his 299 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: strengths are. You know what I mean. It's that quick 300 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: those quick drags, it's those quick slants. It feels like 301 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: when they've asked him to be that player that you're describing, right, 302 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't quite track it as well. It doesn't feel 303 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: like those fifty to fifty but for whatever reason, we 304 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: look at the body and we see it and we're like, okay, yeah, 305 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: that but like, man, when he gets that ball and 306 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: and that he makes that first move and he's leaving 307 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: the defender on the dust, it's like, okay, yeah, that's 308 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: that's it. 309 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is because I'm like, 310 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: I keep going back to his rookie year. It was 311 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: when Keenan and Mike Williams was here with him, and 312 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: arguably you can ask anybody who's in that camp, you've 313 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: seen it. 314 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: He was. 315 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: He probably had the most explosive camp out of all 316 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: those guys, right, So I know it's in there. So 317 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying I'd rather not get two of him in DK. 318 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 2: Not saying that he's the same player as DK. I'm 319 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: just saying, as far as stretching the field where DeVante 320 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: Adams is, can he can stretch this? 321 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: So you think, you know, I think the question is 322 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: is Q and X because to me, he's a Z. 323 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: I think you've got to move him. I think you've 324 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: got to get him off the line of scrimmage. 325 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: I think you've I think he's I think he's a Z. 326 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: I think he's a Z. I think he's a Z. 327 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: I don't really. 328 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: I would rather having a DK or DeVante backside one 329 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: on one, getting those backside one on ones. But a 330 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: lot of times when you have a backside one on 331 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: one guy in three by one formations, A lot of 332 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: times on the defensive side, we say, if that's a 333 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: guy back there, we're gonna have this covered of quarters. Yeah, 334 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: but the safety backs is going to face to backside, right, 335 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: We're not even gonna look at number three. We'll probably 336 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: have the mike carry three and certain we'll put. 337 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: Our body over three to make it seem like we're 338 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: on three. 339 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: But if that's a guy back there, we're doubling him 340 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: with the front side safety. 341 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's do this exercise. Which which receiver 342 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: do you think is best for maconky Because mccaky to 343 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: me is a one. I think he is a one. 344 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: He's a one. But I think it's because he is 345 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: so unique in his skill set and all the different 346 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: things he can do. And I think kind of, like 347 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: I said, I I don't want to come out the 348 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: wrong way, but I kind of have a vision of 349 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: what Q can do best. I don't have a vision 350 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: of what mconky can do best because he can do 351 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: it all. He can do it all, and it's like, 352 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: so which of those guys is when you want to 353 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: put it all together, do you think, like make the 354 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: case for DeVante, you know, combined with mconkey versus DK 355 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: combined with McConkey, and how those two would look different 356 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: based on their skill sets. 357 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: I just think that Devonte can do it all. 358 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: I think he can stretch the field, and I think 359 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: he can run your intermediate routes with mconki, run one 360 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: two stacks with him, and they can do high low 361 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: combinations versus d K. I don't think he's Yeah, he's 362 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: a big body, he can run digs and stuff, but 363 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the same wiggle as DeVante. 364 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: He's more of a. 365 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: He'll stretch the field, he'll make contested catches and maybe 366 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: he can't. But if I'm doing it right, so right 367 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: now I'm going to Vante mcconki and then I'm having Q. 368 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: That's just what I That's what I like. 369 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I could make the case for 370 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: the people listening watch that for you. Look, you know 371 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: like of a lot more about this than I do. 372 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: Why that that combo works because, like I said, it's 373 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: not about one, it's about it's it's why Joe Burrow 374 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: is like, hey, I gotta have tea, right, I know that, 375 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, And I think all the people that are 376 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: all he's not a one and you're gonna pay him 377 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: one money. And for Burrow, it's like, yeah, but but 378 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Jamar is not Jamar without tea. When I have tea 379 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: and I have Jamar and I have GASICKI and I've 380 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: got these three pieces, that's how this works. And I 381 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: think that's sort of the key. 382 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I played I played Davante, 383 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: and I've played DK. 384 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: I rather hit Davante. DK is a man free, He's 385 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: a man. 386 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: I just think that with And I don't know, maybe 387 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying this because DK's second half of his season 388 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: last year, he kind of fell off, and I don't 389 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: know if it was game plan. I don't know if 390 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: him and Gino didn't have the correct, you know, chemistry. 391 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: But it's wherever Davante goes. He makes plays. 392 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: At the Raiders, he made plays at the Packers, he 393 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: made play traded to the jet Slate, he made plays 394 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: like he's he's going to be productive regardless. And I 395 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: just seen DK that kind of and I'm not saying 396 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: that he's he has fallen off. 397 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: At any means. 398 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: I just his second half how he kind of disappeared 399 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: in the offense for the Seahawks. 400 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: I don't see DeVante doing that in nobody's offense. 401 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't. Yeah, And you know, I mean, 402 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: there is no sport that is, you know, more attached 403 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: to circumstance than football because there's so many moving pieces, 404 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: there's so many agendas, and it just got sideways on 405 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in every imaginable way, imaginable way in that 406 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: second half. So I don't know what was going on there. 407 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: The one thing I do know, though, is you've got 408 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: the relationship right withsanjre Laal and the fact that there 409 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: was his wide receiver coach up there, and see how 410 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: it helped make DK d ks And he's here and 411 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: we saw what he was able to do and improving 412 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: Q from year one to year two with McConkey and 413 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: making him not just you know, one of the best 414 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: rookie receivers, but one of the best slot receivers in 415 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: the league all season long. So I think there's something 416 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: special there too, of course. And now you're DK Metcalf 417 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: and you got Justin Herbert, and I think about Mike 418 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Williams and how good you know, big Mike was, And 419 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: now I think about getting sort of a younger, more 420 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: explosive version of Mike, and DK, yeah, bigger, and. 421 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: He's He's what you want them to look like when 422 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: you step off the bus, right. 423 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: They don't like a you know, it's like you got 424 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I got this quarterback with that arm and 425 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: that wide receiver with that body combined, and I got 426 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: to figure out how to contend with that. That's and 427 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I think, look, there's the compensation for DeVante is just money. 428 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: The compensation for DK is it's going to cost you 429 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: a pretty healthy chunk of draft capital. If I had 430 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: to guess, you know, I would say, you know, I 431 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: would go into that and say, hey, we'll give you 432 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: our two, We'll give you fifty five. You know. You 433 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: think about what they got for DBot was I think 434 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: a fifth from Washington. 435 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: So they they got a bag of chips. 436 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is not going to be that. This 437 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: is this, and it's not going to be the aj 438 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: Brown one and a three they're not going to get 439 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: that for DK when you have to immediately hand over 440 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year. Now they're not getting a one. 441 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: So I think if you offer them a two, if 442 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: they push back a little bit and you know, want 443 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: a little more than I would say, all right, we'll 444 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: give it to this year, we'll give you our two. 445 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Next year, you give us your three, and that way 446 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: maybe you can get that to work out. Because then 447 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: sort of the way I go into it, Julia, as 448 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: I look at this draft and coming back from the combine, 449 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: everybody that I've talked to said, the middle class is 450 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: so strong, like just right when you get out of 451 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: that elite, you know, we got thirteen, we got sixteen, 452 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: Like that didn't I don't think I talked to anyone 453 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: that had more than sixteen first round grades. They're like, 454 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: but right after that, man, I got a mass of players. 455 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: So now you're sitting at twenty two and somebody glides right, 456 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: and now you just trade into that. So think about 457 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: the Kenneth Murray deal, the Tom Telesco made right when 458 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: he jumped back in I think it was twenty six 459 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: is where Kenneth got picked and he gave up his 460 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: three and his two and he got a That's what 461 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. When you get that too. Whether it's 462 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Jacksonville who's got two threes and you take their two 463 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: and their three, they're higher of the two threes. You 464 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: know the I got the calculator here, the twenty second 465 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: pick is worth seven hundred and eighty points. So you 466 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: talk about let's say it's Jacksonville who wants to bolster 467 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: their offensive line. They got up get this right for 468 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. This year, it's Liam Cohen. That's it. So 469 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: they have thirty six and seventy. Those two picks come 470 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: out to five forty and seventy is two. For there 471 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: you go, it's exactly seven hundred and eighty points like 472 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: that's so that's kind of what we're talking about, where 473 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: if you do trade your two, just trade out of 474 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: your one, get a high two, and now you've essentially 475 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: got dk and three picks, Whereas the Chargers third round pick, 476 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: I think it is eighty six, and now you have 477 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: three picks in the top eighty six in a draft 478 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: that everybody's talking about being very heavy in that middle class. 479 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: So I think before you you know, people draft picks 480 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: have to become players. Man. Of course, they're just picks 481 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: until there's a player attached to it. So don't get 482 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: too freaked out about moving off fifty five and oh 483 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: fifty five could have been this, could have been, this 484 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: could yeah, well it also could be a player that 485 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: doesn't work out out. We feel pretty good about DK 486 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: panning out, so. 487 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: And once again charge the nation. I am for DK. 488 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you. 489 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: Know both of them. Listen for both of them, right, you. 490 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: Can be for one more than the other. It's totally fine. 491 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 3: That's where I'm at. 492 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally totally fine. So those I bring those up, 493 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: and we spent quite a bit of time on that 494 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: because I think, to me, those are that would be 495 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: my priority one and priority two before Monday rolls around, 496 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: before this thing gets legal, tampering gets underway, and all 497 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: these contracts start flying around for free agents, and you've 498 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: got to figure out, is it Drew Dolman, is it 499 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: Will Fries is it? You know, you kind of get 500 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: a little bit further down in that offensive line ranking. 501 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: Is it Aaron Banks? Is it Ryan Kelly? Like I 502 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: would love to have those two things sorted out immediately, 503 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: just so I know what the money is like. If 504 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: you can trade for DK, talk to his agent, how 505 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: much does he want? What's the org Davante? What do 506 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: you want? What's that number look like? And then you 507 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: get Slater squared away? Now you know, okay, we've got 508 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: whatever it is right now that they have, I should 509 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: hit up OTC. 510 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: And so if you have with so money, if we 511 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: go receiver right's DK or Davante and we locked in Slater? 512 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Where are you seeing us at twenty two as far 513 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: as position. 514 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to me, to me, I think so 515 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: then so then here we go. So now we have 516 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: to before we get to that like then we have 517 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: to get to free agency. Right, what's available? How much 518 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: can you afford? You know, like I talked about, is 519 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: it is Juwan Johnson reality at tight end? What does 520 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: that number look like? You know Herbert's former tight end 521 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: at Oregon? Is that a friendly number? Does that an 522 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: ingram get released by the Jaguars? And now can you 523 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: do the whole Disley Ingram? Here's my pass catching tight end, 524 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: here's my black tight end. And now I don't have 525 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: to worry about tight end. I think, I think for 526 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: people that are holding their breath and expecting the Chargers 527 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: to go out and you know, make a sign, you know, 528 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and I know they're not going to because they've been franchised. 529 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: But like the whole tray Smith and the t Higgins conversations, like, 530 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 1: that's not how that's not how Baltimore operates, it's not 531 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: how Harba operates. Like to me, it's let's spread it, 532 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: let's build depth, let's fill holes, and then we can 533 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: go into the draft and draft wherever we want. So 534 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I agree, you know, I think that's the thing, right, So, like, 535 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: what are you thinking at twenty two? Let's just assume 536 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: they're able to do that. Build depth. You can take 537 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: best player, is there someone in particular? 538 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: If you can build depth, you know through like let's say, 539 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: if you can build. 540 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: Depth through free agency, right, which I think is the 541 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: best way to do it. 542 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Right, I think, Yeah, don't break the bank. 543 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: Just don't break the bank. Build depth. 544 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Get a placeholder, yes, get the guys in the positions 545 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: and fill the slots that you need. I don't think 546 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: you in fancy you don't address a running back. I 547 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: don't think that there's not enough. 548 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think you bring JK back for sure. 549 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: For sure, if you can get that right. 550 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: Right, but then if you don't address running back and Freegancy, 551 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: which I'm highly confident that the Chargers won't, you got 552 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: to go running back in the draft. 553 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta go running back at twenty two. 554 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, at twenty two, you think, I think even if 555 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: let's say Hampton's off the board, so you have no 556 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: genty you have no Hampton. Now you're kicking around the 557 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: idea of taking Quinchawn Jenkins at twenty two. 558 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: Where you think, I think so, dude, I think so 559 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: if you feel the tight end position, if you if 560 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: you get the ribber CV you want right, feel the 561 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: tight end position and you lock in Slater, it's either 562 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: you go twenty two running back or you go or 563 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: if you go a guard right. That's that's that's my mindset. 564 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, I think the question 565 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: with running back for people that are like, oh, it's 566 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: it's it's not a value picking stuff. Like one of 567 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: the when when I was at the Combine, I don't 568 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: remember who it was that brought it up, but they 569 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: made a great point and they said it might have 570 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: been DJ who said it said, the only time where 571 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: you can really maximize value at running back is when 572 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: you're ready, like if you're ready to go, like the 573 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Ravens are ready to go, like that Eagles are ready 574 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: to go. Look at the difference of Saquan as the 575 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: fourth pick on a mediocre Giants team where he's rushing 576 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: for twelve hundred and fifty yards and eight touchdowns and 577 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: they win seven to nine games, and then you drop 578 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: him behind the best offensive line in the league with 579 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: a team that's ready to win the Super Bowl, and 580 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: the guy rushes for two thousand yards and was darn 581 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: near a Super Bowl a playoff MVP. So if we 582 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: feel like the Chargers are at that point where that 583 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: depth is built up, you feel good about year two 584 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: under this coaching staff, and I do, then that's where 585 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: your point makes sense because guess what you draft the 586 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: running back in the first round. Well, now you've got 587 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: a low number on a fifty year option and you've 588 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: got two franchise tags. So if you want, you got 589 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: that guy for seven years of control in the prime 590 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: of their careers. And that's where it makes sense as 591 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: opposed to later rounds where you only get him for four. 592 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: You don't get the fifty year option. Now you've got 593 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: to go to franchise tags and and it speeds up 594 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: the clock of year. So yeah, the first round certainly 595 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. I just want to get to it because 596 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: it was, like. 597 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: You said, it does matter who's there, yes, right if? 598 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if Omari and Hampton's there, it's a 599 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: very real conversation because he is a freak show dude. 600 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: I mean most are saying most are saying they like 601 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: him more than gentee. 602 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: Some dude, yeah, which I'm not quite sure if I 603 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: agree with that. I had I had a scout tell 604 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: me that I've said this on multiple shows now and 605 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to keep saying it, but when he 606 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: said it, it just stopped me in my tracks. He's like, dude, 607 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: he's LT. 608 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: I was like, who's LT? 609 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Ashton Genty He's like that offensive line was not great, man, 610 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: and that dude made that out of that, And I 611 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's something now. And because we didn't 612 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: see him catch the ball like LT, and that's that's 613 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: what separated. 614 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: L a purpose. 615 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a receiver out there. I don't know, 616 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: so that's but anyway, it would be Hampton. I think 617 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: when you get behind Hampton Quinn, Shawn Jenkins, Caleb Johnson's 618 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: a big back, Dylan Sampson's you're more explosive. There's a 619 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: lot of buzz on RJ. Harvey for he's a smaller guy. 620 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: I know he won't go first round, but that skataboo. 621 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: I know, Hey, dude, the guy jump thirty nine and 622 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: a half inches. Man, So that lets you know the 623 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: explosiveness is I would like him. 624 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: I would I just like him. 625 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: I just like I would love it. 626 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: I just like him on tape. 627 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's not going to run the fastest forty 628 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: and that's probably why he didn't run this forty. But 629 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: when you watch a ballplayer, you watch a guy with 630 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: confidence who toast the rut. 631 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's him. 632 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's say so that's let's say you do 633 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: that trade out of the point. Let's say you do 634 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: that trade out at twenty two and now you and 635 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: let's just say it's with darn it, where's my tankathon stuff? Jacksonville, 636 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: New England. If they want to get up in there, 637 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: let's say Luther Burdens sliding or Matthew Golden sitting there. 638 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: We know how much they want to receive and they 639 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: don't get DeVante, they don't get DK. Then you can 640 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: take you know, New England's thirty eight and sixty nine, 641 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: and now you've got thirty eight and fifty five. At 642 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: thirty eight, you can now go out and get let's 643 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: just see what gosh. I don't think Gray's Abel will 644 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: be there. I don't know, because you know, right now, 645 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: like the center class is so thin that people are 646 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: talking about just converting guards to centers at this point. 647 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: Tate Ratledge of Georgia, obviously Grazebel, we've talked about it. 648 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be there. He's he freaking came 649 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: out of the combine like he's going. I don't know 650 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: if we'll be there at twenty two at this point 651 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: for the chargers. So I think you go ahead and 652 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: you get your you can get your guard or your 653 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: interior linement at that spot or the tight end, and 654 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: then you can get like you said you want Scataboo. 655 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: Now you get him maybe at fifty five, and we 656 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: are really going through this. This is a ridiculous pot 657 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: at this point. But that's that's what free agency is, right, 658 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: It's a wish list. It's it's sort of you know, 659 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: and look, I think there's a reason why. Here's here's 660 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: the one wild card two for this year, twenty four 661 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: million dollar jump. Everybody's got money. Of course, everybody's got money. 662 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: So that's you know, for people that were like, wow, 663 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: you did Elijah Molden already, and man, you got a 664 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: little bit more than I thought. Eighteen million bucks on 665 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: six million, it's like, don't want them to get to 666 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the market. 667 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: That's yeah, you don't. You don't want him to get 668 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: to the market. 669 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: And it's totally different if you would assigned him with 670 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: the Salard cap six five years ago. 671 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: We always talked about. 672 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: It goes up every year, so you can't look sometimes 673 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: you get look at the numbers, but you got to 674 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: look at him to what it's worth with the Salard 675 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: cap going up six million now is different than six 676 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: million back in twenty nineteen. 677 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: Right, Right, it's not the same, Right, it's not the same. 678 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't it an eighty million dollar cap exactly. 679 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't hit the same, right. 680 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: So but I do think that was probably a big 681 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: part of the calculus is let's you know, let's not 682 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: let this guy get to market. We know how important 683 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: he is. Uh, in order for us to do what 684 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: we want to do on defense, that's rotation, keep Derwin 685 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: it on the line of scrimmage as a slot defender, 686 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: as a big nickel, as a dimebacker. You've got to 687 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: have those two guys on the top, you do. And 688 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: that's where the value for Elijah comes in. Like that's 689 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: the other thing too, with the draft and ten picks 690 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: that the Chargers have is we you know, we've talked 691 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: about this before, but you get out of there and 692 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking to guys about sixth round picks and seventh 693 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: round picks and I'm like, man, just think about the 694 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: fact they got two corners in the fifth round and 695 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: what this team was able to do and identifying talent. 696 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: And like the one that I keep telling people is, 697 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, for those that were like, oh, what about 698 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: your fourth round pick a boy B And it's like 699 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: we knew coming into the year, they said he's not 700 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: going to be playing that this is a traits is 701 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: a this is a bet on the com that we 702 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: think this is a guy we're going to be able 703 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: to develop. So you're almost adding a pick this year 704 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: at the defensive line position, someone who was productive at 705 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: the Alabama But they felt like needed a little bit 706 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: of seasoning, right. 707 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: And that's the thing about it when you look typically 708 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: when you're looking at the draft, right your first three 709 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: draft picks, you're like, Okay, these are guys that are 710 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: going to come in and make impacts right now, right 711 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: your fourth round, your fifth round, and it's almost like, okay, 712 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: we're ga teams, special teams. There's gonna be these are 713 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: gonna be guys who who we have to develop, who 714 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: we have to you know, kind of massage and get 715 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: them to where we want them to be. So to 716 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: have yeah, you might say what happened to the fourth round, 717 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: but for the two fifth rounders to hit like they did, 718 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: that allows the charges not to have to address the 719 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: cornerback position. 720 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 3: So heavily right now, right, So you can't look at 721 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: it like that. 722 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: I always say, like being an undrafted player, I've been 723 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: in this league and I played, and I seen fourth 724 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: rounders get cut. I've seen fifth rounders get cut. I've 725 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: seen sixth rounders get cut. So most of the time 726 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: when you're after that third, like I said, it's more 727 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: of an experiment. 728 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: It's almost it's what did your scouts do their job right? Right? 729 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: How good was your scouting department when you hit the 730 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: fourth round and on. 731 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're another thing that came up. I wish I 732 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: could remember who brought it up, but I was talking about, 733 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: you know you have cam Hart, you have targeted still, 734 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: do you need to get a veteran corner. 735 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: I thank you, go ahead. 736 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: So I brought that up. I was like, you know, 737 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: do you just bring back Christian Fulton? He played well 738 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: when he was healthy. Is it that's simple? Do go 739 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: out shopping to get a you know, I don't know 740 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: who DJ Reid is, obviously, like I think the number 741 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: one guy would slay just got cut something like that. 742 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: And person made an interesting point. He said, think about 743 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: how your what your cornerback position has been in the 744 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: past and how it performed this year. What does that 745 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: tell you? And I didn't know where he was going. 746 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: And he's like Clink is such a good coach and 747 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Minner is such a good coordinator that that's where 748 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: they can get away with it. He's like he goes 749 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: in every team, every really good team has that position 750 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: group where they don't spend money, they draft, they develop 751 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: and they know, okay, I can save money here and 752 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to spend it. Here, he goes 753 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: into me, that's corner on this team with those coaches 754 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: and with this scheme, he goes So for me, I 755 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: would just draft two more guys in the fourth or 756 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: the fifth round, because why would I doubt that they 757 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: can't do it again? And when every single whether it 758 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: was safety with Chris O'Leary and Marcus May and any 759 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: guy that they dropped in or Eli Apple who came 760 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: in a corner and played forty seven Lady Jackson, Yeah, 761 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Eddie jack Clearly these guys know what they're doing. So 762 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: for me, I'm not going to spend any money. They're sorry, guys. 763 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I apologize. 764 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: And when you said that question before, I didn't mean 765 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: to cut you off, but it was I was gonna 766 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: go along the lines of it's a it's about what 767 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: your defense acts as certain positions to do right. Like 768 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: you said, this defense is one of the defenses where 769 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: they can get away with it a corner. When I 770 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: was at the Houston Texans, we ran a certain defense 771 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: and it was a cover I think it was Cover 772 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: four right and the middle linebacker and certain cover fours. 773 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 3: They would say, hey, you know what you got to 774 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: run with number three. 775 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: Right, if we're gonna double the backside with the backside safety, 776 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: you have to run with number three. And that defense, 777 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: they never made none of their linebackers run with verticals, right, 778 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: so you know that you don't need a linebacker who's 779 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: super super athletic to play in that defense. Right now, 780 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: if you go to another defense where I was with 781 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: Gus Bradley, no I will linebacker had to run with 782 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: the vertical to three. So you're gonna go into the draft, Yeah, 783 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: I still feel it's it's all about It's all about 784 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: the system, right, So you're gonna as a front office. 785 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: The front office and knowing what the coaches want and 786 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: what they're doing on the in the schematic side is 787 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: big because you can't just draft the guy because yeah 788 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: he's six y four, he's two thirty, but does he 789 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: fit in the system? 790 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: Right, So like that's a great point that you made. 791 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: This defense. It allows the corners are good. 792 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good. Yeah. And it's funny too because they're 793 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: both the two guys they took are so different. You know, 794 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: dam Hart was just straight traits, a little bit of injury. 795 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Knew maybe a little bit needed some development. Hard, still 796 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: just a dog competitor, ballhawk, and it's like they took 797 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: them and guess what, they both worked. So that's like 798 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: when I think about the players that are that are 799 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: being circled and they're like, hey, man, explosive combine, unbelievable player. 800 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I feel like he's gonna slip, 801 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: like Jaday Barron at Texas man his go. So it's like, okay, dude, 802 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you invest that first round pick in someone who's sort 803 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: of I think the cop makes sense to me a 804 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, where you think he's a slop, but if 805 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: you need to put him outside, he's gonna be fine. 806 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Not a big dude, but he's gonna be fine. He's 807 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: too smart, he's too good, he's too instinctive for it 808 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: not to work. And then I'm like, okay, so does 809 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: that make sense or is it like no, we'd be 810 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: better off, you know, drafting the guard there or the 811 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: center there, and then we'll just we'll get we'll get 812 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: the corners that'll just come in the later round. 813 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: So that's and the thing about Tarhee, like sorry, I'm 814 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: still on this topic. He reminds me of a guy 815 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: played with by. 816 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: The name of Casey Hayward. 817 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very like the ball finds him and it 818 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 2: was just like that with Casey. You can play Casey 819 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: on the inside. They played Tarhebe on the inside. This year, 820 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: you can play Casey on the outside. They played Tarheb 821 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: on the outside. He's one of those guys where he's 822 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: supposed to run with the vertical, he's supposed to run 823 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: with the post, but then he sees that the seven 824 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: route is coming and he falls off and picks off 825 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 2: the seventh round. 826 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: Did we coach him up to do that? No. 827 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: If he did not do it would have been opened. Yes, 828 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: But he fell off and he made the play, right. 829 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: That's kind of who he is. That's kind of he's 830 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: like a he's a gambler and he and it pays 831 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: off for him. 832 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, look, and I think there is you know, 833 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: that's like the mentality of the corner position. Right. There's 834 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: guys that just won't gamble, they're afraid to get burned 835 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: and it limits them. And then there's those that gamble. 836 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes they lose and they just move on. That's like, yeah, 837 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: whatever got burned on that one mental note, you know, 838 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: back to the next rep and it feels like tarheeb 839 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: Is is kind of in that and it's funny, like 840 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: we had him on I think. 841 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: Were you were. 842 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: I was where we were talking about his first p 843 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: I call and he was like, yeah, man, he goes, 844 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: I kind of because I didn't. He goes. The thing 845 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: that sucks is I didn't have to do it. He's like, 846 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: I got beat. But I like when I reached out, 847 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I was like, do I need to do this? And 848 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: he goes, and then all of a sudden, the flag 849 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: came out. I was like, God, I didn't need to 850 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: do it. But it's like you could tell that he 851 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: was processing, like, hey, mental note, man, Now moving forward. 852 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: I kind of know. You know, now that I've kind 853 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: of taken that rep, I can file that away and 854 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: move forward. 855 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: It's a fine line when you're a dB and you're 856 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: chasing and that receiver's eyes are getting big and you're 857 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: like do I need to PI him? And you hear 858 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: the roar of the crowd and you're like, it's a 859 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: ball coming. I don't want to look back. 860 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, So I've been there. I understand. 861 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: I think also just kind of to to move a 862 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: little bit here as we're kind of getting toward the 863 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: end of this. You're gonna get an extra draft pick 864 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: as well, as far as I'm concerned, and that's Junior Colson. 865 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Like Junior unfortunately got I mean, we saw those a 866 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: few of those moments in training camp and all you 867 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: gotta do a stand next to the guy and. 868 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 3: You're like, like, he's bid different. 869 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so the idea that he barely played last 870 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: year and you still even saw some flashes and those 871 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: limited snaps that he had. But the idea that Junior 872 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: could come in be healthy and now you got he 873 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: and Dayan in the middle of the field, Like, that's 874 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: gonna be nasty. I don't think you can. You can't 875 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: overstate how big of an impact that could have with 876 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: those two guys out there for a full seventeen games 877 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: if Junior can stay healthy and Dayon continues to add 878 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: to what was already an incredible second season for him. 879 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: So that's something to keep in mind when it comes 880 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: to free agency. And now with the release of Joey 881 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: there's one Obviously I had a huge oversight, shame on me, 882 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: but you know, I think it makes signing Khalil even 883 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: more imperative, Like right now, your edge room with Khalil's 884 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: a free agent is Tullian bud. I mean, that's that's it. 885 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: That's your whole edge room. So you know that's again 886 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: I keep going back to it. So and that's why 887 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: I brought up Okay, so Slater twenty eight and a 888 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: half million, I'm bringing in dk or you're bringing in DeVante. 889 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: Dk is gonna be thirty million. DeVante's gonna be twenty 890 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: five million. Now Khalil's gonna there's gonna be a market 891 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: out there for Khalil. Now, you may have softened it 892 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: a little bit by putting Joey out there helping yourself, 893 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: but Khalil's probably a twenty million dollar a year player. 894 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: So now, yeah, you got ninety million bucks, but thirty here, 895 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: thirty there. Now we're down to you know, now you're 896 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: down to thirty and now you're twenty and now I 897 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: think you're in that mode of are we We're probably 898 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: bring a lot of these guys back and hope you 899 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: can continue to get value out of tier Tar and 900 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Poona Ford and Morgan Fox and Christian Fulton and that 901 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: whole defensive side of the football. There's still a couple 902 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: of levers they can pull. There's still you know, I 903 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: don't want to name names because I don't want to, 904 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, take money out of these guys pockets. But 905 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: I think there's no I'm not. I think there's still 906 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: I can think of two levers that'll they'll give you 907 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: about thirteen to fourteen million more dollars that I could 908 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: totally envision kind of being levers that they would pull 909 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: based on what you know. If it's just hey, this 910 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: is what we have, this is what's out there in 911 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: free agency for a similar price point. What do you 912 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: want to do. Okay, let's pull that lever and then 913 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, this is what we have, this is what 914 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: we think we the grade we have in draft, pull 915 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: that lever, and I think those are things that you 916 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: can always do. And then obviously that's you know, that's 917 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: also not talking about, you know, the magic that Ed 918 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: maguire makes year after year when you're moving money around 919 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: and creating cash. All that stuff is also available. 920 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: I agree with your money, you get it around on 921 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: the head. Dude. 922 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, So interesting times. So hopefully when we're back next week, 923 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: we're talking about a Slater extension and free agency, we're 924 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about Khalil Mack being back with the team, and 925 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: hopefully some of these key pieces, you know, like we said, 926 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: I've got to believe they want to bring back Poonaford, 927 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: they want to bring back Tier Tart. I would imagine 928 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: those two are right up there with Khalil, you know, 929 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: behind Elijah Molden and trying to get some of those 930 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,959 Speaker 1: things squared away. We know they already got Tucker Fisk 931 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: back in the fold. I thought he played really well 932 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: last year as a young player, and that's the style 933 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: of tight end that they like to play with. So 934 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. Next week's gonna there's gonna be a 935 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of things moving around. The combine was fun and 936 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: it's fun to kind of project, you know, who they 937 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: might be interested in at twenty two. We've talked about 938 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: running backs Quinn, Shawn Jenkins, Marion Hampton. We've talked about 939 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: tight ends a little bit, Colston Lovelin if he's there, 940 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Tyler Warren is going to be there. 941 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: We've talked about interior lineman Gray Zabel, Tyler Booker, the 942 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: two big names. I think Zabel coming out of the 943 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: combine feels like he's gonna maybe himself ahead a booker, 944 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: which I didn't think was possible. But certainly, you know, 945 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: you think about Alabama versus Nordak State and it's like really, 946 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's like yeah, really in talking to people down there. 947 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: Really offensive line, it doesn't it doesn't matter, no, when 948 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: you look. 949 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: At big schools quickly, when you look at big schools 950 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: and you look at you know, it's skill position, skill position, 951 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: and the difference between a big school and a smaller 952 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 2: school is usually the trenches, right right. So if you 953 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: see a guy at a small school, Eric Fisher, I 954 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: played with number one overall draft pick at Central Michigan, 955 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: if he goes to the senior ball, if he goes 956 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 2: to the combine and he holds his own he doesn't 957 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 2: need to run fast forty, he doesn't need to have 958 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: it's can he block the man in front of him? 959 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: Is he a road grader? Is can he make seams? 960 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 3: Can he? 961 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: So when you look at the offensive line position, whether 962 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: it's the interior, where it's the exterior, at the tackle position, 963 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 2: a lot of times you see a lot of small 964 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: school guys getting drafted early who go on to have 965 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: a lot of success in the NFL. 966 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: And that's what theay. Did you know he did it 967 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and he showed up at the 968 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: Combine and was an absolute monster. So there's that wide 969 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: receiver is super interesting. With the four three nine forty 970 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: that Matthew Golden ran, I think that clearly, with the 971 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: production and the tape at Texas, that puts him square 972 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: in play at twenty two. T Mac is. You know, 973 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: the people are dogging on on t Mac out of 974 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: Arizona because of the you know, he's not going to 975 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: run a forty. He may not run a forty at 976 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: his pro day and they're worried about that. 977 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: I've seen enough enough. 978 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he ain't gonna be there. I can't imagine 979 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: he'll be there. So there's that position defensive side of 980 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: the ball. We haven't even talked at all, really, but 981 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about an incredibly deep group we 982 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: talked to. We talked about Kenneth Grant out of Michigan, 983 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: about Nolan out of out of Mississippi State. There's Derek 984 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: Harmon out of Oregon who's been called a Chris Jones clone. 985 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot there as well on 986 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball that they can get into. 987 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 3: Op for sure. 988 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: It is going to be exciting. This is the best 989 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: time of the year. Former player too, Sorry, yeah, former player, Now, 990 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: I remember these I remember this time. I remember going 991 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 2: into free agency. I remember calling my age and every 992 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: every other hour like hey, what are you hearing? 993 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: Do take it personally? 994 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: You try not to because I always throw this word 995 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 2: out there it's a business, but as a player, you 996 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: do like, hey, this team values me here versus I 997 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 2: feel that my values here. Well, well I'm going to 998 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: show them when we play them. Right, this is a 999 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 2: team that didn't want to bring me in at this 1000 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: certain price, and this is the team that believed in me. 1001 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 2: So when we when we cross paths, I'm gonna I 1002 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: got a little extra fuel for you know, I got 1003 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: a little extra fuel for you. So that's how it is. 1004 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: Man's it's it's an exciting time. It's going to be 1005 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: in a time where these guys get to make money 1006 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: who changed, you know, their life and their family's life 1007 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 2: and generations that come after them exactly. So it's it's 1008 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: it's an awesome time of year. It's and as a fan, 1009 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: as a fans watching at home, it's obviously you feel 1010 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: so tied in with your your favorite organization that you know, 1011 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 2: every pick, every trade, every you know, everything that's being 1012 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 2: done from here on out, it affects you personally, which. 1013 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: We know it does so exactly. Well, just kind of 1014 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: going through the breaking news here since we started doing this. 1015 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: Bengals grant Trey Hendrickson permission to seek a trade. Defense 1016 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: was terrible last year. Yeah, so I guess if you're 1017 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: bringing back Tea and Kasiki and Jamar to make Joe 1018 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: Burrow happy, you're gonna have to sacrifice somewhere else it. 1019 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's a very deep draft on that 1020 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: side of the ball, so maybe that's kind of how 1021 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: they're viewing that. Right. He's an incredible player, led the 1022 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: league in sacks last year. You have forty nine ers 1023 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna cut Javon Hargrave. You know what, that's a perfect 1024 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: illustration of sometimes you go out and you signed the 1025 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: big name free agent and doesn't always fit the way 1026 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: it did in the other spot. And that certainly was 1027 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: the case for hard Grave going from from pitt to 1028 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, and I think that's where it was, right. 1029 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: Didn't he go from or was there a stop in 1030 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: between there I'm not sure Philly anyway. 1031 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: I think it was Philly. 1032 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was the second stop, and then 1033 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: he made his way out there. So anyway, Yeah, that's 1034 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: the latest that I can tell. I'll just refresh over 1035 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: here one more time so we don't miss anything that 1036 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: we need to start kicking around us, right, Nothing there, 1037 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: nothing there, yep. I think we're all good man, all right, 1038 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: Julia will be back in a week. A lot more 1039 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 1: news is going to be squared away by then, whether 1040 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,959 Speaker 1: it's extensions for Slater free agency signings in the legal 1041 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: tampering period, trades that were being made, I would imagine 1042 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: we'll have a lot of news come a week from today. 1043 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, Thank you me both. 1044 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks everybody for tuning in. Please comment, like, subscribe. 1045 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: We love getting in those comments on the YouTube and 1046 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: trying to engage with all of you, so please don't 1047 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: hold back on that. This has been Chargers week. We'll 1048 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: be back next week.