1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 4 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Williamson and see it Wednesday. Wednesday, it feels like a 5 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: Friday because camp starts tomorrow. Yeah, right right, camp Eve. 6 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: Things are happening. Yeah, I can't wait. Still a lot 7 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: of photos on social media today of Steelers arriving at 8 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: the facility. I would assume to get there a little different, 9 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: get their testing done and all that stuff. It's not 10 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Joe Green getting out of his car. But such as life. 11 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: It's still gonna be football soon. So I'm excited. But 12 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's not last year for this, I hope. 13 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, they'll keep it positive. And you know, 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: everyone getting reporting and the team's getting together, and they 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: got a new member of the team, and you know, 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: lots going on. Yeah, a lot going on, especially around 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: the league. Cam Akers, the running back for the Los 18 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams tears an achilles he has done for I 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: would assume he's not playing this year. He's got to 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: be done for the running back in an achilles tendon. 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Could he play in the playoffs maybe maybe, I mean, 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: but they didn't have some sort of probably stable situation 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: by then. Then, I mean you by then, you've you've 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: you've run Darrell Henderson. I think there's a chance they 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: trade for Mlwyn Gordon or something like that too. I mean, 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: there's a there's some options and there we'll be running 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: back to the least. But boy, I mean Fantasy World, 28 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson gets a huge bump. That's a blow. Man. 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Acres because I thought he was 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: really set up for a huge year. Um, the girly 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: role there, you know, the every down guy um. And 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: so unfortunately we're gonna get a lot of these kind 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: of things in the next month. Yeah, the most of 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: the news that you get over the next month here 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: will be bad. But there was some good news if 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: you're Fred Warner's family members. Oh I didn't see that one. 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: But signed a five year extension worth nine five million 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: with forty five million and guarantees. Interesting. Um, coming out 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of school, I mean, he's a little smaller, runs extremely well. 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: He was kind of one of those overhang linebackers, you know, 41 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of didn't really play quite in the box, but 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: adjusted extremely well. And I can make a really strong 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: case that he's the best linebacker in the league right now, 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and it fits the modern day NFL extremely well foundational 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: player for them, So it makes some sense. Yeah. Uh. 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: It coincides with an article that Dan Graziano wrote on 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: ESPN about thirty players who could get paid this summer 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: that includes t J. Watt and that extension. Those extension 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: talks are gonna heat up here. Um as the Steelers 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: report to camp. You know better than me, but it 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: seems like they often time that up with the dog 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: days of camp. Yeah, Like sometimes you start working on 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: and here the players in camp, you know, morale booster 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: when it's hot and you're you know, it absolutely is 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: even the camp. The other thing about it is, you know, okay, 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: so the players here, that means he's he's bought into this. Yes, 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: he's got a year left. You've seen guys hold out 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: in this situation in the past, and you know they're 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: not going to negotiate with somebody who's holding out. So 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: that you know, you get the guy in camp, Okay, 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: he wants to be here, You talk to him face 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: to face. Yeah, you want to be here, We want 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: you here. Okay, We're gonna call your agent, you know, 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: that can make perfect signs. Absolutely, But that the thirty guys, 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: there's interesting names on this list. Yeah, and strangely, I 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: mean the Steelers need to be aware of some of 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks too. I mean, not necessarily the ones coming 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: up here, but ones with the expiring contracts or unhappy 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: with their contracts for next year. Well there's also you know, 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the the for example, the Warner contract sets the market 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: maybe for some others. Yeah, you know, I mean, of course, 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: so that the class of quarter x Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Baker, 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Mayfield online for extension pis same year, all having successful careers. 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: At this point, teams are pretty set up to win 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of games, you know. I mean, I think 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: they're consensus top five a FC teams, you know. I mean, so, uh, 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: it's a good time to strike. Yeah, and you know, 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: if you're the Steelers, you probably you want those guys 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: signing big deals, especially Baker in my opinion, because I'm 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: just not sure he's out of the woods. To me, 81 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: Alan is the one that I would value the most 82 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: if I were an owner, or they were all on 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: the open market and I was bidding on the three 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: of them, because Lamar has to play a certain way 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: and and the longevity of Lamar would scare me a 86 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: little bit. Like I'd offer Alan and my homes like 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: deal Alan, I might or my homes or I'm sorry, 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: Jackson might be something like a three deer deal. You know, 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: just what if the wheels start to fall off a 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: little bit. Better passer Lamar Jackson or Michael Vick? Right, 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember Vick well enough in his prime, you know, 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: pre jail Frankly, probably Jackson, But I think I think 93 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Vic was a better passer. That little quick lefty release 94 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: he had. He could flick the ball fifty yards and 95 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: on a line. It was almost Aaron Rodgers like. I 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: just can't remember his accuracy well enough. I think it 97 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: was bad. I mean, yeah, I mean or what they 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: asked and they had. You know, they had some solid 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: receivers as well that you know, was it Des White? 100 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Does know Roddy White? Roddy White White, it was, you know, 101 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: his go to guy. Um. Vic's completion percentage wasn't great. 102 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I remember it being better than this. He was the Falcons. 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: He was passer, yeah, but different completion percentage on the 104 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: league's lower two. Yeah, and he also chucked it down 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: the field like crazy. I mean, remember he didn't I 106 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't play on going down this road, but I mean 107 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: that backfield was him done. And t J and t J. Duckett, 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they really different type of runners, So I'm sure. 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of educated guests here. A lot 110 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: of their passes are probably deep because they're gonna be 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: super crowded the box against that crew. Yeah, some other 112 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: guys who were potentially set to break the bank here, 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: wats one of them? Uh? This supporting the Graziano Quentin Nelson. Yeah, 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's to be the highest paid Garden 115 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: League Davante Adams. And that's the Rogers news that came 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: out this week that the Packers made him an offer, 117 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: a five year deal that would make him the highest 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: paid quarterback in the league and he turned it down 119 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: right right. That doesn't bode well for them, Like, Okay, 120 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna give you what you want. You 121 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: want money, We're gonna give you money. What else? What 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: else can they give him out of the money? He 123 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: sure seems like a bullheaded, stubborn guy. That and I'm 124 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of speculating on this too, But I heard something 125 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: like he hasn't talked to his brother anymore. You know, 126 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: like like if you get on his bad side, you 127 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: never get off it. From what I understand, you know 128 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: that when he gets his mindset, he's gonna stick with it. 129 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, I'd call the Broncos, you 130 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, how long are you gonna 131 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: play this game with them? With him? Yeah? I don't know. 132 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: That's a strange situation. It's a strange situation because I 133 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: believe that report. I believe they made him that Packers 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: could could equally be the same site. I'm just gonna 135 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: give you away because in that situation, that Broncos going, well, 136 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: we're not gonna make you a big offer here, We're 137 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: just gonna give you. We'll give you a first round 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: draft pick for Aaron Rogers. Well that's not enough, no, 139 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, but that makes the Adams negotiations very hard 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to do in my opinion, because he's great, but like, 141 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: but is he great with Jordan's love? Right? I mean, 142 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: he's still the best receiver division they have, and you know, 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: one of the better ones in the league. And if 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: you just isolate him. He's great and getting off the 145 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and you can attack all levels. But 146 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: it's funny like right now, and I thought this a 147 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: year ago when most of Michael Thomas was the best 148 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: receiver in the league. The receivers that are the very 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: best right now aren't super freaky. They're not Randy Moss. 150 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: They're the route runners and they probably fall draft you 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: know good, you know, go way slowly, like a Fitzgerald 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: or a Hopkins or a guy like that. But I 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: don't know that I'm investing in a guy that's not 154 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: as super freak as the most you know, the priceiest 155 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Uh As I mentioned Watts on 156 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: that list. The other three he mentions Darius Leonard, the linebackers, 157 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, Fred Warner, Roquan Smith. Well, Warner just signed 158 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: his deal. There's one of those other two guys surpasses deal. 159 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: And if they do, I don't think Roquan can. The 160 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Colts already have Quentin Nelson, Nelson and and Leonard. All 161 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: that all that cap space that they have available we've 162 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: had available the last couple of years. That starts to 163 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: go away, and you haven't paid a quarterback right, and 164 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: you kind of haven't used all that space. You haven't 165 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: really won. Rivers wasn't super expensive whence isn't super expensive 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: when you take the bonuses and things out of it. Yeah, 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: but those will be the guys they pay. I mean, 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure when Buckner's up, but they don't have 169 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: a lot of other stars that are gonna break. I 170 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: would think Leonards. Leonard's deal is gonna be five years, 171 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars. That's that's I think he should 172 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: be close to Warner. Yeah, I mean they've had I 173 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: think he'll be, you know, better than I think it 174 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: may be. I think he'll want more than Warner. I 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: would go, I would sit down with that if I 176 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: was his agent. Ye. Rokuan's really only have one star year, 177 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: but the stars rising. You know, we talked about these 178 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: linebackers a lot that a few of them come in 179 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: the league right away and tear it up. Well. Rokelan 180 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: is a good example that Leonard was one that he did. 181 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: He did. He was better from day one than Warner. 182 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: A couple of safeties here that the Steelers will be 183 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on for sure, one being Jesse Bates 184 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: with the Bengals, who are traditionally pretty cheap. I say, 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll pay him. The other one being 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. What happens with that contract situation different too, Yeah, 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and he plays, you know, plays it completely differently. And 188 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: he's kind of got the Seahawks in a tough spot 189 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: because they gave up two first round picks to get him. 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: They have to pay him. They can't let him go. 191 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: I know you love me. You know, you show to 192 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the world that unless you're gonna trade him, Unless you're 193 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna trade him, But then I don't think a lot 194 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: of teams will be interested, to be honest with you, 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's very distinct style, very distinct style. Uh. 196 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: They don't have good pass rushers. That's one of the 197 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: things he does. Brings one of their best pass rushers, 198 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: not just blitzers. I bet he gets a lot And 199 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me to three years from now they're 200 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: going Jamal Adams the cap casualty, you know what I mean. 201 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: The Steelers are kind of in a similar situation, which 202 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: situation here with making Fitzpatrick. He traded a bunch of 203 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: picks to get him, including a first round pick, you're 204 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: gonna pay that guy. I keep seeing stuff like, well 205 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers have to pay T. J. Watton and make 206 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: it Fitzpatrick here and somehow marriaging those things, marrying those 207 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: two things together. They don't have to do anything with 208 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: making Fitzpatrick this summer. No, I mean, he's a deal 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: on the franchise, tack, So why not fift year option? 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: Is you know, right? Rights not bad what you're getting 211 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: from the player, right. No, they're not any rush there, 212 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: I would think, but they do have the space. I mean, 213 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe you want to knock it out while you have 214 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: in space. But you know, this is where it gets 215 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: interesting because there's some players here inside the division, inside 216 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: the a f C North who are also in line 217 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: for big pay days, the first being Mark Andrews. Okay, 218 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: who I can't give him kittle Kelsey money, they're saying, 219 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: the Graziano saying that he should be able to get 220 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: eleven million or more per year. You're gonna pay him 221 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: more than what the Browns gave um, oh more than Hooper? 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, trying to think some of the other I 223 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: would guess he was gonna be at least Hunter Henry 224 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: John H. Smith neighborhood, and they're the most recent one 225 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: and then was a year ago. Kelsey and kids receiver. 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: You're not gonna just suddenly on though, we don't need 227 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: you right now. That's a hairy one because I mean, 228 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: what's interesting about him too is he doesn't play. He 229 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: only plays like six the snaps, you know. I mean, 230 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: he he's the starter quote and could be their leading 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: receiver again, but he's not like Kittle went healthy. I'm 232 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: Mark Andrew's agent. I go in there and say, I've 233 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: been your leading receiver the last three years, assuming has 234 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: a good year. Treat me like a wide I want 235 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver money. Yeah, I want fifteen million more or 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: more a year. I'm not sure what Kiddle on Kelsy 237 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: are making. I think that's their neighborhood. I think Cooper's 238 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: ten or twelve Hooper was, and I think Henry and 239 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: John who are right around there too. But he'll get 240 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: double digits. Oh yeah, So now you're paying Lamar and 241 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: you're paying Andrews. That's not cheap. It's not the next 242 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: two guys on the list, Denzel Ward and Nick Chubb, 243 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: very interesting. All right, Well, they gotta pay Baker, they 244 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: gotta pay Baker. They just signed Garrett recently too. Now 245 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: these guys, um word. They have the fifth year option, 246 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: but that fifty year options thirteen million dollars this year 247 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and you pick it up. Yeah, you know, like any 248 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: starry draft in the first round, you pick it up. 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Shob could franchise, but again you're franchising. That's expensive. That's expensive. 250 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: So now you maybe you gotta cut some corners elsewhere, 251 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: because I think the days of picking up jadeveon Clowney 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: on a whim and seeing how he's gonna go, and O, 253 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: we're paying to get him. We're giving uh, what's uh 254 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: not Fowler the linebacker, the Tach McKinley four million dollars 255 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: because the Steelers got Melvin Ingram at four million dollars, 256 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: just got Tach McKinley at four million dollars. Who got 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: the better deal there? I just read this and I 258 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: hadn't put tuned two together, but it makes perfect sense 259 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: after reading it that the Browns have the most money 260 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: in the league invested on offense. I mean, they build 261 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: an offensive line from scratch, They go out and get 262 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: Hooper and O'Dell and Landry. Those guys are expensive. That's 263 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: not going to keep up and there they again. For 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: a guy like Hooper, you're paying him star money, right, 265 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Like Conklin is a good player, But is he the 266 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: best right tackle we've ever seen? You know, not really. 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: There's actually a couple of right tackles on this list 268 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: who are gonna get paid a lot more than him 269 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: because you're better, better players. Jonathan Allen another guy on 270 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: this listed from Washington. Yeah, yeah, a really good unsung player, 271 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: interior pass rusher, former first round pick, probably the second 272 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: best lineman on that team that's loaded with great lineman. Yeah, 273 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: and you know you got guys like to run paying 274 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: in montest sweat. We can't again, You're not gonna to 275 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: keep all these guys. That's the problem. I mean, team 276 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: building NFL is hard to matter which way you cut it. 277 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: And by no means should you should They have passed 278 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: on Chase Young, you know, things like that. But when 279 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: you go first round pick after first round pick in 280 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: the same spot, I can't keep. It's the same situation 281 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: to Steelers that with Bud Dupre and teach a lot. 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: You can't keep both, keep paying both twenty million dollars 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: a year. You can't have, you know, Bud's deal seventeen 284 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: million dollars a year, what TJ gets. Let's say TJ 285 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: gets twenty three. You can't have forty million dollars tied 286 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: up in your two outside. It's just not good cat management. 287 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: If the Steelers receivers turn into stars, twenty million year 288 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: type guys, it will be hard. Yeah, you know what 289 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Well, then you're in the Packers with the 290 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Vante Adams, you get Vante Adams and the other guys, 291 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: and the other guy you got pick and choose Brandon 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Smith with the Colts, good quality player. Yeah, but again 293 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: another cult that's going to eat into that massive pile 294 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: of cap money that they've had last Absolutely, I mean, 295 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: they're their window is closing. Yeah. All three of those 296 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: guys were draft the same here, and you're looking at 297 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: the deals that Ryan Ramsack and Taylor Moten got recently. 298 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Those guys are two of the better offensive right. I 299 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: would say ram Check more than any of the above. 300 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: But Smith's gonna want Yeah, he's still young and he 301 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: started since day one. Yeah. Um oh, And obviously the 302 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: CAP's gonna go up to so things get a little 303 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: easier for these teams. But Mike McGlinchey and Brian O'Neill 304 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: on that list, well, two young right tackles who are Yeah, 305 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: I would say both are ascending. Mcglinchey's a really good 306 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: run blocker, so so in protection, um else their best lineman, 307 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota's best line way, Yeah, it's not even close. In 308 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: former pick guy, if people remember kind of that tight 309 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: end turn tight tackle, good athlete, Uh, they have to 310 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: pay him. I mean you would think that. Hopefully derrisaus 311 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: the answer. On the other side, McGlinchey just fits them 312 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: so well, especially now with a running quarterback and Kay 313 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: Lanson and be starting sooner or later. Yeah, Orlando Brown 314 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: on that list. That's back to the conversation the first round. 315 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: Picked again him, you're gonna make playmate left tackle? Well, 316 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna want left tackle money, yeah, without question. I 317 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: mean I would think that he's gonna have to be 318 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: a top ten overall left tackle pay day, and he 319 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: probably is in the top ten overall left tackle. He 320 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: can struggle this year. I would if I were them, 321 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I would wait, let's see when we throw the ball 322 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the time, Let's make sure that our 323 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: investment was a good one before I give you he agree. 324 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I agree. I guess you could throw him back the 325 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: right tackle and really piss him off. The bunch of 326 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: he mentions a bunch of the first or the two 327 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen first round on wide receivers that could be 328 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: up for a new deal here, which would include d J. Moore, 329 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Mike Williams with the Chargers, H 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and d J. Chark. That's a pretty good group there 331 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: that some of those aren't first rounders. Yeah, but that's 332 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: a good group of receivers that are all up. Huh. 333 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of receivers move though Corey Davis 334 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: and you know, the all the way back to like 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: Watkins and Alan Robinson. The league just has such an 336 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: influx of young guys coming in. I'm not sure of 337 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: that group who I would guaranteed pay keep Bridley. I 338 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: don't know they could have. They can't move on from 339 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: him after Tradon Julio, who was the first one. D J. 340 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Moore owd J. Moore's you know an asset for sure. 341 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: They're all good players. Um looking here at some other guys. 342 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: There's no guaranteed money left on Derek Carr's deal with 343 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Would they expend him or did they extend him? 344 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: Or does John Gruden have his eye on next Springs 345 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: quarterback class. We bring him up a lot for the 346 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Steelers a year from now, and I know people aren't 347 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: super excited about that, but because a lot of things 348 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: just to add up that he could not be a 349 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: Raider next year. First of all, grudens Screwden anywhere. It's Cruden. 350 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: He's very fickle. He's not going anywhere on his ten 351 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: year deal. I think they're going to be worse than 352 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: they were a year ago. A lot of these metrics 353 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: have the Steelers and Raiders having the two most difficult 354 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: schedules in the whole league. So I mean, it's gonna 355 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: be a tough climb no matter what. And Car played 356 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: really well last year, but he would be the stape goat. 357 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, if they go five and twelve, Gruden is 358 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna go somebody and blame everything on Car and the 359 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: next team might get a deal on them. And if 360 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: there's no guaranteed money, it's not that hard of a 361 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: move and you might get him for like a second 362 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: round pick or you know, I mean it's three first 363 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: round picks for him. It's that quarterback carousel. Each year 364 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: we talked about this and like, oh, this is this 365 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: is unprecedented. Well we've done this two years in our 366 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: year a row. Now it's not unprecedented anymore that the 367 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are on the move because you don't have a 368 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: you know, an infinite amount of cap space. It's a 369 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: finite cap um. I mean, someday we should do a 370 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: whole segment of these are all the quarterbacks that might 371 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: be on the move next year, because it could be 372 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: such a long list in history shown these guys move now, 373 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: and they'll be guys that were not even talking about 374 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: right now, I mean without questioning. I mean, a guy 375 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: like toa looks like he's safe as could be, but 376 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: they have a couple of offensive line injuries and they're 377 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: picking there the top, and everyone blames the quarterback and 378 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: we really like Spencer Ratler instead, right right right, you 379 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: know he could be the Sam Donald type, you know 380 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: that didn't have much of a chance to succeed, and 381 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: next home we'll see. Yeah, so it's gonna it's gonna 382 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch. It's just a you know, I think, 383 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: to me, it was interesting that the Ravens and Browns 384 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of guys on this list that it's 385 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: time to get paid for these guys get paid. We've 386 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: seen the Ravens deal with that in the Flaco Era 387 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: and I know it was AUSSI, but it's still basically 388 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: the same front office. That's gonna be a challenge for 389 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: the Browns. But they had some down years there, down 390 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: years too, and they let a lot of people like, yeah, 391 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: we're looking in a situation where you know, three years ago, 392 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Hardball was this close to being fired right right, yeah, 393 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: without questions because they were they were coming off a 394 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: couple of losing seasons that we can't do this for 395 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: a third straight year. And then he made the change 396 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: the Lamar and you know, just completely you know, change 397 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: the tra directory there. But you don't have that. I 398 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: still trust that organization to deal with it more than Cleveland, 399 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: just because we've at least seen it. We've seen it. 400 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: I know he's a good coach. Not the Cleveland's aren't. 401 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: And they've also made a lot of picks through the 402 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: comp game too, So you'd hope you have a flurry 403 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: of fourth rounders that are cheap and stuff like that. 404 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: No matter what that that you know, Cleveland has been 405 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: paying a quarterback a long time and the rest of 406 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: the division hasn't. Yeah, Cleveland, you know, I don't know. 407 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: I look at what they've done. I sent you that 408 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: story the other day. But with with um uh skill 409 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: position players ranking position players and they you know, he 410 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: he has the Steelers with the fourth best group of 411 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: skill position players in the a f C North. It 412 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: doesn't include the quarterback. No, this is just running back, 413 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: tight ends receivers, right, Okay, Yeah, I don't see that. 414 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't see that first. Yeah, and since he's closed, 415 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because he has both. He has Baltimore at sixteen, 416 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: he has Cleveland at I think they're like, he has 417 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the fourth Latin here's the thing in him ranked third 418 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: in ranks second. I don't see that. I mean, I 419 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: think it's a fine group. But I wouldn't trade any 420 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: of the Steelers receivers, including maybe James Washington, for Jarvis Landry, right, 421 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean I'd rather have Deante and Claypool every day 422 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: of the week than Odell and Landry. Absolutely, I absolutely, 423 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: without question, I think I'd rather have tight ends are close. Yeah, 424 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Hooper is probably the best player of the 425 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: group and he's a little more well rounded, but just 426 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: more of a guy's fourteenth best tight end in the 427 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: league or something, you know what they overpaid to get. 428 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: And it's mean he's good. Their backs are awesome, but 429 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: a first round pick on a guy, you know, I 430 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: mean like it's it's that one doesn't add up to 431 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: me and with you know, I get the Bengals love, 432 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: but last year they were thirteenth and nineteen, they were 433 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: twenty three. All they did was a jamar chase to 434 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: the equation you got rid as you have any Bernard 435 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: who was actually you would factor into that. Oh, they 436 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: have depth behind him, pretty good death they're running back 437 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: rooms worse. Yeah, I mean, I mean you're you're making 438 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: that same you're making that same assumption, you know Naja 439 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: with Najia Harris. But I know right now that it's 440 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: a small piece. But the Bengals tight ends are horrible. Yeah, 441 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: they don't have them. They don't do anything, you know, right, 442 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean, they live in eleven personnel and they you know, 443 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: those guys blocked. So I don't know, I don't see 444 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: it that way. But back to the you know, paying 445 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: people is Landry and O'Dell going to be a Brown 446 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: a year from now, two years from now, probably not, 447 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, I mean then they drafted Schwartz and you know, 448 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: they realized these problems are coming up to he has 449 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: he has the Ravens at they were twenty six and 450 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: nine and twenty and now they've jumped to Steelers with 451 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: their with their still position players. Based on what signing 452 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, I wouldn't trade any of the Steelers. I 453 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't trade any of the Steelers receivers for Sammy Watkins. No, 454 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: because he can't stay out. He's like O'Dell, he can't 455 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: stay healthy. I respect what Markus Brown brings the table, 456 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and I think Bateman is a good prospect for sure. 457 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I'd rather Claypool and Dante and Juju question they tried 458 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: to get to Juju, and I'd take Harris over daub As. 459 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I like him. You know, Dobbins was my top rated 460 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: back last year. I would have had Harris ahead of 461 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: him because of the same draft every day. I think 462 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: he's better receiver too. You know, I was looking at 463 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: you know when before the draft started last year, before 464 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: we got too far into the process, um And and 465 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Harris decided to go back to school, he was the 466 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: number one guy. Yeah, yeah, I think so too. I 467 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: mean I think he's more of an every down guy, 468 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: more of a bruiser. Um Bravens will be pretty low 469 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: on my list in terms of the league. Yeah, I 470 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: don't understand fourteen. I mean their receivers were in contention 471 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: for worst in the league the last year or two, 472 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: and they added some stuff as we mentioned, but not 473 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: they had had Julio Jones, right what I mean? I 474 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: mean he had the Steelers fifteenth, he had the thirteenth 475 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: and twenty, and he drops them two spots this year, 476 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: and they got much better running downs. I think they're 477 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: better now, and then they've got these same Actually didn't 478 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: know what Chase Claypool has gone up? And right? How 479 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: are they how are they actually worse? How did these 480 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: teams climb ahead of them? I mean not everyone stayed stagnant. 481 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: So sometimes those lists you can't say. Yeah, maybe a 482 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: bunch of other teams got better too. But I feel 483 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: better about the Steelers wide receiver group going into this 484 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: year than it did last year. Yes, you don't question. 485 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: You didn't know what Claypool was gonna be and the 486 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: running back rooms lying close right, the tight end rooms 487 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: way better. Yeah, you know what I mean, if you 488 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: want to criticize the offensive line quarterback, that's not even included, 489 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: not even the conversation. He's dinging them because uh Juju 490 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster averaged uh eight point seven yards of catch 491 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: last year. I'm much sure that's on Juju. Yeah, eight 492 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: point six. I mean, I don't think he's ever gonna 493 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: be a real high average yard for He then compares 494 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: Deonte Johnson to Calvin Ridley, like, well, don't don't say 495 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Johnson needed a hundred forty four targets to get nine 496 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: twenty three receiving yards. Calvin Ridley had a hundred forty 497 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: three targets and he had seventy four. Was playing opposite 498 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, right, and Ridley's one of the best receivers 499 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: in the league. Being compared to Ridley to me is 500 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: a good thing. I just yeah, I don't understand that 501 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: ranking at all. You know, when when people and I 502 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: get this a lot Bill Barmoa hates the Steelers, when 503 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: I see things like this, it makes me think maybe 504 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: it does a little bit there is a little bit 505 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: of bias there. Yeah, that one does not add up 506 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: to me. And I respect Bill. I think he does 507 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: really good work, and by a few writers. I read 508 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: pretty much everything he puts out, and lists are made 509 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: for this obviously, But that's low. I mean there's whenever 510 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: you brought the Steelers rankings, I thought we were to 511 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: compare him the rest of the league. I mean I 512 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: think they don't. They don't have the fourth best in 513 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: their own division. No, not even no, I mean there's 514 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: not many across the league I would take, Like would 515 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: you would you trade any would you trade the Ravens 516 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: guys right now for the Steelers guys? No, No, don't 517 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: want to consider. Yeah, I would think about and we're 518 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: not telling you even dollars. Like the Browns have a 519 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: lot investment invested three pass catchers. They get fifteen million 520 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: dollars invested in their tight ends, right right, Like I 521 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: don't want that. Like if you gave me Hooper for 522 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: fifteen million, I'd say no, I'd rather have the fifteen 523 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: million um just on the field, since he's intriguing, you know, 524 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: when Boyd's your third receiver, Okay, I know what I mean. 525 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's certainly intriguing. I'd take the Browns 526 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: running backs. Yeah, but I think, I mean, that's that's 527 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: a lot of good running backs. But I think that 528 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: the Steelers running back room would be my second draft 529 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: pick in that division. It's not great behind Harris, right, 530 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: It's not great behind Mixing. Yeah, I mean Dobbins and 531 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: Edwards are good too. I mean, all those guys would 532 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: be top ten picks in the league for me, probably 533 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: running back rooms. You know, going forward, the depth behind 534 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: Harris is worrisome, but we'll see, you know. But I 535 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: mean I like the Steelers wide receiver group a lot, 536 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean there's a lot of there's a 537 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of diversity there that you can Yeah, again, if 538 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Washington's your four, it's pretty strong, pretty strong. And I'm 539 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: excited about Friar moo. Yeah. See what that turns into it? Yeah, 540 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: but I just thought that was interesting. Is we morphed 541 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: into that? Mean there's teams like Dallas, I would say, 542 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's ones at the top of the 543 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: the list that are better, but I can't come up 544 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: with a ton that are way better than the stealers 545 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: skill positions in the league, like the top two or three. 546 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just's curious Tampa based one. Now I get that, 547 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: but their backs are bad. Yeah, I get that. The 548 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys are two, Okay, I don't trust Elliot and they 549 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: don't really have a tight end. The Titans are now three. 550 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: They don't have a tight end. Yeah, okay, that's deserve 551 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: it though. I mean, Henry's freaky. He has the Browns four, 552 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the Vikings five. Cook and Jefferson is a pretty good pair. 553 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: But again, you know your tight end is m hmm. 554 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't gonna use it? No, then 555 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: they are talking about the Vikings. They play the least 556 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: three receiver sets in the league too. I mean they 557 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: have two receivers period, end of story. Yeah, Chiefs six, Chiefs, 558 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean the Kelsey Hill combinations. The Carolina Panthers seventh, 559 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: but Caffrey carries Someway, but they don't have a tight end. 560 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: The Seahawks eight, Okay, they've added. I would put the 561 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: Steelers in that area ahead of a couple of those 562 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: teams too. I like, I like, I like Nausea Harris 563 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: better than Chris Carson. I'm sorry, I don't think it's close. 564 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: I think I think Metcalf Claypool Calf better. That jump 565 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: could be taken though this year right right now, Claypool 566 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: is dk Metcalf light. I would take Lockett and Metcalf 567 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: over Johnson and Claypool this minute. But then the depth 568 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: comes in. Juju and Washington are way better than their 569 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: remaining receivers. And it's not the starters aren't way better. Yeah, 570 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: nine is the bills. That's good. They're running back. Standing 571 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: backs are bad, and they're tight ends are bad. Yeah, 572 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: they kind of digs and nothing else some more. I 573 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: think about it, right, he has the he has had 574 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: the rams ten and I'm sure he counts acres there. Yeah, okay, 575 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: but would you take Would you trade Claypool and Deonte 576 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: for Cups and Cup and Woods? No? I wouldn't either. 577 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean, even just for one day. I might talk 578 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: about money or age or any of those things. Those 579 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: guys I think are largely scheme based seevers good players. 580 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: But Cup to me isn't much different than Juju. Packers eleven. 581 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: They got two guys, they got two guys three. If 582 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: he counts on, you give him two and a half. Uh. 583 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco twelve. That's a good group. I'm a big 584 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: EU guy. I think Kindles the number one tight end 585 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: Sermons Okay, and the Bengals are thirteen, the Ravens at fourteen, 586 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers at fifteen. I think that Field Steelers will 587 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: be fifth or sixth to me. But again, if you're 588 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: if your offensive weapons ort and you've got maybe the 589 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: top defense in the league, right right right, that works. 590 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: The line just has to not stink. The line just 591 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: has to not stinking. Cliff, obviously that's gonna do it 592 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: for this show. But so for my partner Matt Williamson, 593 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: for Jacob Rick here on site keeping us on the air. 594 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We thank you for listening to this 595 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.