1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like taking me back. I think that 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: was probably one of my first exposures to like reform theology. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: So anyway, well, I know that you're you've got so 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: much going on and you're literally going to speak at 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: this conference at some point, and you somehow made time 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: to come back in here to the hotel room and 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: and do this podcast. So thank you, man, bro. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you man, thank you for yeah making a slot. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have a question for you. Yeah, how 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: could I hear God's voice? 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Oh? Wow? 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: All right, we're diving in, We're getting right into it. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the beauty of the Bible, like we we 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: have like I got to wake up this morning and 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: open a book and know that I'm hearing the voice 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: of God. That how amazing. And I don't have to 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: like I look for some mystical sense like yes, I 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: want to be really careful even in saying that, because 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a spiritual, spirit led activity opening the Bible 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: in a saw one nineteen kind of way open my 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: eyes that I may see wonderful things happen and wonderful 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: things in your law. So it's it's definitely it's spiritual, 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: but it is objective truth on a page. Every word 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm reading here is inspired by God himself to draw 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: me closer to him. Like that's so I don't I 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: don't I get to do that every morning and all 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: day long, anytime I want hear the voice of God 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and in a relationship with God. That's not just a 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: mechanical thing. I'm reading words on a page, but this 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: is That's why in this book I try to like 31 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: put reading the Bible in the context of love relationship, 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: like this is intimacy with God through his word. So anyway, 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: that's the privilege any one of us has who has 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: the word of God, that is to say, in our language. 35 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, everybody, every single person watching listen to this 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: right now? Can hear the voice of God by opening 37 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: up that book and saying, God speak to me. 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: Why is that such a revolutionary idea? I mean, why 39 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: why can you answer that quickly? When I say how 40 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: do you hear the voice of God? I mean that 41 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: sounds like a huge, crazy question. That's that's unanswerable. And 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: why could how could you sit there and just quickly 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: go oh with the Bible? 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean that's the it's the beauty 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: of the Bible. I mean, it's unlike any other book 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: in the world. And uh, and we could talk about 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: all the reasons why we know this is not just 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, how do we know. I mean, there's tons 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: of religious rights in the world, right, so how do 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: you know this is God's word? And I mean my 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: short answer to that would be the Bible testifies itself 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: to its supernatural authenticity. Like forty plus human authors, written 53 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: over the course of centuries, in different language, from different perspectives, 54 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: all telling one consistent story, the Gospel of Jesus Christ, 55 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: and nobody nothing in the whole book contradicting that story. 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if I were to put forty people together 57 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: friends of mine, to say, give me a story about 58 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: how we got here, what's wrong in the world, how 59 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: it can be made right, those people couldn't all agree 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: on that. And they're all speaking the same language at 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: the same time. In history, like all the pictures of 62 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Prophecy fulfilled the historical verifiability of the Bible, the fact 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: that the more researchers dive into the details, like the 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: facts the history. This isn't just like thoughts put down 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: on paper about the world. It's it's history with facts 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: that you can determine see are they true or not? 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: And the more you dive into you see they're all true. 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: Like so you put all that together, you realize, Okay, 69 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: this is a supernatural book. So I got off on 70 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a tangent there, But I mean, 71 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I think it's important. I don't want to just like, yeah, 72 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to bank my life on 73 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: just what some person said, Like, I want to know 74 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: this is actually the word of God. But that that's 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: where I do think now, especially for followers of Jesus. 76 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: But this is where even I should say, for not 77 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: those who are not followers of Jesus. It is the 78 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: most like published read book in the history of the world. 79 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: So I think it's that we're at least worth diving 80 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: into and read one time, just to see what it's 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: all about and why so many people have embraced this book. 82 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: And for those who do believe the Bible is the 83 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: word of God to realize. So second tivity three would 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: be what is driving my thoughts here? All scripture God 85 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: breathes useful for teaching, correct and rebuking, training and righteousness, 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: so that the person of God, so that we might 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: be fully equipped for every good work God has for us, 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Like this book is unlike any other book. There's so 89 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: many good things we could read. I mean, I just 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: wrote a book on how to read the Bible. So 91 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of books we could read, but there's 92 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: only one that is supernaturally inspired by God to help 93 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: us know Him, know who he is, know who we are, 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: and how to experience life in this world. And so man, 95 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: that's infinitely more important than that hours of things that 96 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: we might scroll through on our phones today. And so 97 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: why I think that comes back to your question, why 98 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: do we not just like soaking this thing all the time? 99 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: And I think that's that's what I want to say, Yeah, 100 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: this thing. 101 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, And I want to I want to get 102 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: to that, and I want to I want to comment 103 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: briefly on contradictions in the Bible. You went quickly, you know, 104 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: how could these forty different authors not contradict each other? 105 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: But what you're not saying is you're not saying they 106 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: all wrote the same story because in co authorship, which 107 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: which once again is something the Bible testifies of itself, 108 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: human authors under divine inspiration leaves room for the human 109 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: authors to give their version of what they're seeing. So 110 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: that that's why it would not be a contradiction to 111 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: have four different gospels that some have sometimes have a 112 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: story with a nuance in it because of the human authorship. 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: So you're not saying, and no one is saying that 114 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: the Bible is everyone is writing the exact same thing 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: like mechanical robots. 116 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's so good. I'm so glad you point 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: that out. I just did like an intensive teaching like 118 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: one night, like six hours through Matthew and that was 119 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: one of the which is one of the four Gospels 120 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: accounts of Jesus life and death and resurrection. And yeah, 121 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: that was It was so good to see because he 122 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: he arranges things even in a particular order, and he's 123 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: communicating to a particular audience, and everything that he writes 124 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: is true, and at the same time, he arranges it 125 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: different than than Mark or Luke or John. Like Mark's 126 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: writing to a predominantly Gentile audience, Matthew is writing to 127 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: a predominantly Jewish audience. So Matthew does all this background 128 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: with a lot of Jewish history that Mark doesn't do 129 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: as much. And and so that's that's the beauty though, 130 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: is how and then you you kind of expand that 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: out to all these people in the Old Testament, Like 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm reading Isaiah this morning, and like where I'm at 133 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in Isaiah right now, it's talking about promises Isaiah chapter 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: nine of Jesus to come. Now, Isaiah had no idea 135 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: the full grasp of what Matthew would have realized. But 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: they don't contraed it like they totally align with each other. 137 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: But it's prophecy seven centuries before words that God was 138 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: speaking through Isaiah that came about in Matthew's day that 139 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: he's now writing about, and he's able to point back 140 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: to what he said is right here. And it's not 141 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: like he organized the events of jesus life to make 142 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: it fit it, just as showing this is what Isaiah 143 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: was talking about. 144 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: Incredible. So what the book you referenced earlier, It's called 145 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: How to Read the Bible, and this is actually this 146 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: is a fantastic book for all reading levels. Really, I mean, 147 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: you could be a seminary scholar, you could be a 148 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: brand new believer. This book is under one hundred pages. 149 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: It is. 150 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: Super easy to read, yet yet theologically rich. And I 151 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: know you did that on purpose, But I have found 152 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: so many things helpful. This is you kind of mentioned 153 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: this a little bit earlier. But when thinking about should 154 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: we read our Bibles every day? Like should I engage 155 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: with my Bible every day? I don't know. I mean, 156 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: right off the top of my head. I think I'm 157 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: just really busy. I don't know if I could actually 158 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: look at something like that and think about it every day. 159 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I could do it on Sundays. Sure. But you say 160 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: something interesting, you say, we can hardly fathom this picture 161 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: amid everything going on in our lives today. We can't 162 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: imagine from the moment we rise to the moment we 163 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: go to bed, and in moments throughout the day spending 164 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: so much time looking at well, wait a minute, we 165 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: can imagine this, can't we? Is this not what we 166 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: do with our phones? That's what we do with our 167 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: cell phones? 168 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Yes, bro, and you we fill our mind with so much. 169 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things. I can't remember what 170 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: all I talked about. You mentioned it being short, because yes, 171 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I did that really intentionally. I wanted to make accessible. 172 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I remember when I showed it to my wife, I 173 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: was like, man, it's just not as much I had 174 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: so much more I wanted to say. She was like, 175 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: I love books this side, thank you for a book 176 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: this side. I want books the size. So but I 177 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: don't think we should be surprised that many, even professing Christians, 178 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: don't have like hunger to be in God's word because 179 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: our stomachs are so full on the stuff, the drivel 180 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: that we take in all day long. I use an 181 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: illustration oftentimes, and again I can't remember exactly if it's 182 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: in the book, but when when my wife and I 183 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: were first dating. I grew up in a family where 184 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: we my dad didn't like seafood, so we never eat seafood. 185 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: So but my first time I went over to Heather's 186 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: house for dinner, her family is making seafood and its 187 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: smell like horrible, Like I just hated seafood because my 188 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: dad did, and so but I faked it and I 189 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and just just like, oh, this is amazing, thank you 190 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: so much for this meal. The problem is they bought it, 191 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: and so then they were like, oh, next time I 192 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: came over, They're like, ah, David's coming over, We're gonna 193 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: have seafood. He loves seafood. So I started every time 194 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: i'd go on vacation with our family. They were like, Hey, 195 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: let's go to the best seafood restaurants. Like, oh, that's awesome. Well, 196 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: the end of that story is like, now I love 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: seafood today because I had to love it to get 198 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: a wife. But the whole picture is my taste budgs changed. 199 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: That's the point. My taste budgs changed. And if we're 200 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: just drinking in like literally hours of DRIVELL on our 201 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: phones all day, then of course our taste buds are 202 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: going to be for that. But once we taste something 203 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: that is and I don't mean this to sound dramatic 204 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: or overstated, but I don't think I can overstated it, 205 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: it's infinitely better. It is infinitely better. Then our taste 206 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: buds will change and we'll realize we make time for 207 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: what's valuable, what we love, what's important, and we need 208 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: new taste buds so that we value the importance and 209 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: we love God's word. 210 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: Now, anyone could understand that argument. An atheists could understand 211 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: what you're saying. And if they're thinking about changing their 212 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: diet and they think, man, I've even eaten fast food 213 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: for so long, I've been eating candy for so long, 214 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: and then you get off of it and you start 215 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: eating steak and potatoes and you have an apple in 216 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: the apple now tastes sweeter than any candy bar did 217 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: because your tasteboats have adapted to what real food is. 218 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 2: And what you're saying is we have gotten so used 219 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: to appetizers. Devotionals are appetizers, by the way, Yeah, which 220 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: is great thing. 221 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: There are imitation. I mean it's like my kids when 222 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: especially my younger kids, some of our older kids are 223 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out now. But when we're like, Okay, 224 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: it's your birthday, you can go anywhere you want to eat, 225 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, McDonald's, and it's like really, like 226 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: I would take you anywhere. Yeah, they want like a 227 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: processed patty. It's like that it's because they don't know 228 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: there's something better. And so yes, I think even devotionals 229 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: or and it's not that they're all bad, but it 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: is are are we missing out? Like on the wonder 231 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: like Saw one nineteen verse one sixty two, I rejoice 232 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: at your word, like one who finds great spoil like treasure. 233 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: Now you don't get the treasure, but I just kind 234 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: of dipping into a little bit of the ground like 235 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: you dig some like you spend some time and there's 236 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: something there that is so valuable that is worth the 237 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: time to get there. 238 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 2: And uh. 239 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: And so that's that's the question, Like are we willing 240 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: to take the time again for our good not because 241 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: we have to, not because we got to check off 242 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a box because we're supposed to, but because we want life. 243 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: This word is designed for our life and uh. And 244 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: it's a picture of His love for us, and it's 245 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: how we grow. And I love relationship with God. I 246 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: think that one of the challenges greature is I think 247 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: many Christians whin even when they try to read the Bible, 248 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: they still are They're like, Okay, I'm not getting it, 249 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I'm not experiencing treasure like you're talking about. 250 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: So that's art of why I wanted to write this book, 251 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: is just a simple practical way to say, Hey, here's 252 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: a way that I hope would be helpful for you 253 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: to experience that treasure on a daily basis. 254 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Amen, And there are a lot of people listening 255 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: right now that that think. Amen, Brothers, I read my 256 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: Bible every day, and I've talked to these guys and 257 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: and I say, They say, I read my Bible every day, 258 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: but but nothing really changes. And I say, can I 259 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: ask you how you're reading it? And they'll say, uh, 260 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: it's it's I read it on my phone. Can you 261 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: show me? Can you show me what? And they'll pull 262 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: up a Bible app and it's a it's a suggested verse. 263 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: I said, brother, that's that's not reading your Bible. And 264 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: you have now written a book to answer that exact question. 265 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: This is I know, this is true, that this reading 266 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: your Bible is the most foundational, fundamental spiritual discipline that 267 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: without it, no other spiritual discipline works. They all crumble 268 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: if you're not engaged with reading your Bible. 269 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, one hundred percent. And in fact, I would say, yeah, 270 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: we cannot experience, we can't experience like faith in God 271 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: apart from the us, Like this is, faith comes by hearing, 272 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: hearing by the Word of Christ Romans ten. Like this is, 273 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I love being in creation. I love seeing 274 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the glory of God in creation. This part of what 275 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: I love about Psalm nineteen is the picture we have 276 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: of God the heavens revealing the glory of God. I mean, 277 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I think just trekking through the mountains and seeing the 278 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: glory of God, the grandeur in a sunset or a sunrise. Yes, 279 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: all of that, but then Psalm nineteen says even more 280 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: than that is what you see about God on the 281 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: pages of this book, Like it's more grander and wonder 282 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: and majesty than even what the Grand Canyon can show 283 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: you or anything else in creation. Like, that's what we 284 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: have here two experience. And that's why part of what 285 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: I try to emphasize in this book is even more 286 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: than like commands to read the Bible that we see 287 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: in scripture, it's meditate, like it's really let it soak in, 288 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: like linger with it. So instead of kind of going 289 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about earlier, instead of 290 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: like a fast food restaurant view Bible reading like fine dining, 291 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: like this is a meal to be savored and enjoyed, 292 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: not just to get your quick verse for the day, 293 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: because that's that's not gonna it's not gonna satisfy your 294 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: soul the way your soul is designed to be satisfied. 295 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: So let's go over you mentioned meditate. Let's go over 296 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: some of the things that you're that you laid out 297 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: in this book, because like you said earlier. If we 298 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: are to believe that the Bible testifies to itself that 299 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: all scriptures breed that by God improfitable for teaching or 300 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: proof and correction, for training and righteousness, that the man 301 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: or woman of God may be complete, equipped for every 302 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: good work. If that's what we believe, and that's what 303 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: it says, then why in the world would we not 304 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: be in it every single day? Right? That is that 305 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: is the most practical reasonable statement I could possibly make. 306 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: That that is the question, Like well, and it just shows, 307 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is our our sinful nature. We're prone 308 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: to do that which is not good for us. And 309 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: so this is I mean, when you just mentioned second 310 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Timothy three sixteen seventy like to be complete? Who doesn't 311 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: want to be fulfilled? Who doesn't want to be complete? 312 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: To experience life to the full? And obviously I want 313 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: to be really careful not to say that means everything 314 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: is going perfect in this fallen world, Like that's that's 315 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: not a reality in it. 316 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: That word doesn't mean flawless. It means mature. 317 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Yes, right, who doesn't want that? Like we certainly we 318 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: want that. This is where it's where I even go 319 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: back to old one of my favorite CS. Lewis quotes like, 320 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: we're half hearted creatures, fulling about drink and sex and 321 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: ambition when infinite joy has offered us, Like ignorant children 322 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: who go on making mud pies in Islam because they 323 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: cannot imagine what's meant by the offer of a holiday 324 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: at the sea. We're far too easily pleased. So when 325 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: we just scroll through stuff on our phones and we 326 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: ignore the Bible, it's not because our desires are too strong. 327 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: It's because our desires are too weak. It takes so 328 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: little to satisfy us like we there's so much more 329 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: that God is offering us, holding out for us for 330 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: our good again, completion, knowledge of God, relationship with God, 331 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: life to the full, the way that God has designed 332 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: us to experience life like this book is guaranteed, guaranteed 333 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: to bring us those things if we'll walk through it, 334 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: if we'll read it correctly, meditate on it, walk through 335 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: these the kind of things that I talked about in 336 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: this week. If we'll do that, it's guaranteed to lead 337 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: us to that. So, yes, for the joy set before us, 338 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: Let's do this. 339 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I want to keep 340 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: on wanting to get to meditate because you said that, 341 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: But I want to first lay out that what what 342 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: you've done here, You've You've created a system maps is 343 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: is the is the system here? Meditate and memorize, apply, pray, 344 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: and share. Super easy to remember this, Like I said, 345 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: this book is is easy to remember. But let's start 346 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: with meditate. That's the that's the meditate and memorized. We're 347 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: not We're not talking about sitting with your your needs, 348 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: you know, crossed and your watching the sunset. That's not 349 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: what you mean by meditate. So what do you mean 350 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: by this? 351 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: So what I mean by meditate is like linger over 352 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: a passage and just let it, like soaking it. The 353 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: illustration I used is when uh, my wife, she's the 354 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: first girl I ever dated, uh and uh she which 355 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: may sound noble, but I was just super socially awkward. 356 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: He provided someone who's attracting my social awkwardness. But she 357 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: started writing me letters. This is before like texting or 358 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: anything else. So she would write me a lot. And 359 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: I remember the first letter I would get, first letters 360 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: I would get from her, I was like, this is amazing, 361 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: and I would read like dear David, I go dear, 362 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: that's a good start. And I'd read and she'd write, 363 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm praying for you, and I'd be like, I wonder 364 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: what she means by that, Like she prays for me, 365 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: like is for anybody, or like when she's praying for 366 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: her future husband, maybe she thinks of me, like she 367 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: put a smiley face, and be like, why smiley face? 368 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: Right there? So that's what I would say is meditation. 369 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: It's like why this what? Because if every word is 370 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: breathed out by God, then what are these words? Like 371 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: how do they fit together? And so that's where I 372 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: try to talk in the book, just about just questions 373 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: to ask to really meditate, let it soak in, even 374 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: even this morning, like I think about and this leads 375 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: to memorize, like I was in Psalm one twelve this 376 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: morning and there's I think it's the first seven. Uh, 377 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: it's around there, but he said it's talking about just 378 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the security we have in God. And it says he 379 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: is not afraid of bad news. His heart is firm, 380 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: trusting in the Lord. His heart is steady, like I 381 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: just so I'm stopping at that point and I'm like, oh, 382 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: like I just had a nightmare last night that just 383 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: related to something in my family, and it was like 384 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: it just revealed like a deep fear me and and 385 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: it was so good just this morning read that and 386 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: God just saying you have no need to be afraid 387 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: of bad news, like your your heart can be firm 388 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: through trust in me. You can have a steady heart. 389 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Just trust in Me. And so instead of just reading 390 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: that and moving on and checking off a box, I'm 391 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: reading that and like soaking it in. Okay, how what's 392 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: bad news that I'm I'm afraid of? And how do 393 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: you a fear of bad news? Fear, worry, anxiety? How 394 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: do you count that the heart that's firm? Oh? I 395 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: want that? How is that possible? Trust in the Lord? Okay, God, 396 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: I want this kind of faith. Got to help me 397 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: to trust in You and then delay that specific even 398 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: fear before him, so that that would be an example 399 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: of meditation. Now that's getting into some of the other 400 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: things that we're talking about with apply and pray, but 401 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: the key is not just reading it but really soaking 402 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it in. 403 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. So let me pause right here because you said 404 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 2: earlier that you were in Isaiah this morning, and then 405 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: you just now minished you mentioned you're in psalms this morning. Yeah, 406 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: but I know that you read the McShane Plan because 407 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: you say in this book, and I've heard you say 408 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: that before. I'm also a huge advocate for McShane plan. 409 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: I wish I had started it twenty years ago. I'm 410 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: on my fifth year and love it. My wife's on 411 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: it as well, and we have great discussions. I'm I'm 412 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: always amazed at how some of these chapters will line 413 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: up so beautifully and speak to each other in a 414 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: way that I didn't see last year or the year 415 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: before that. So I know that people listening have heard 416 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: me say this before, but what a beautiful, what a 417 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: beautiful way to read through the Bible every morning. That's 418 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: apart from whatever you're going to speak at at the 419 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: conference today. It's apart from whatever you're going to preach 420 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: your your senior pastor. It's it's apart from that. But 421 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: this is your own David's own nourishing time. 422 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: Yes, and what I love about. And it's one of 423 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: the things that Yeah talk about in there, whether whatever 424 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: plan like, have some kind of intentional way through which 425 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: you're reading through the Bible. And uh, and I'm I 426 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: definitely want to give off the impression to anybody that 427 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: every morning is like revival, Like oh that was like 428 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: there's some texts where you're like, okay, but that that's 429 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: the beauty again. That's the beauty of God's word is 430 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: that it's all inspired by God. So even if I'm 431 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: reading through Leviticus or this story in the Old Testament 432 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: that it's like, I don't even know how this applies 433 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: to me. I'm reading inspired. I'm reading words inspired by 434 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: God that show me who he is, like they give 435 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: me opportunities to reflect on It's part of what meditation is, 436 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: like all right, what is this passage? Yeah, teaching me 437 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: about who God is, which is important. Sometimes we just 438 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: jump into the Bible like okay, what can I get 439 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: out of this from my life today? 440 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: Which is what you cover. You cover that in chapter 441 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: number two how not to read the Bible, And every 442 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: time you mentioned a point in chapter number two it 443 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 2: ended with me something something for me, it's. 444 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: All of us, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and and 445 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: it's and that's so important. That's part of why I 446 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: started with that, because yeah, there are actually ways to 447 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: read the Bible that are unhelpful for yeah, and uh uh, 448 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: and so to be careful to avoid those. But even 449 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: there two uh to even if I read something, I'm like, 450 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know what how this would apply or 451 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: anything like, there's still value in this, like you're hearing 452 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: to go back to the very first question you asked, 453 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: the voice of God? Which is our greatest need? To 454 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: be in tune with his voice in every fast in 455 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: my life? Like I think about my life as a dad, 456 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: as a parent, as a dad of six kids, as 457 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: a husband, as a pastor, and just a job, or 458 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: as a friend, whatever, Like my greatest need in all 459 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: those facets of my life is to be walking in 460 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: step with God and his spirit according to his voice. Now, 461 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Leviticus may not have given me instructions for a parenting today, 462 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: but what it did is it made me more in 463 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: tune with his voice. So that illustration I often use 464 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: is like if I were to get a call right 465 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: now on my phone, and if I didn't look down 466 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: to see who it is, and I just picked it 467 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: up and said hello, and the other voice on the 468 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: line said hey, babe, Like I wouldn't be like, who's 469 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: this like, and she'd be like Heather, Heather, who And 470 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: she'd be like, you know your wife five years and 471 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: other of your kids. Oh yes, of course, of course 472 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. Why because I know how she speaks. 473 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: I recognize your voice. Part of reading and meditating on 474 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: the Bible is being familiar with the voice of God 475 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: so that when you're in whatever situation today and you 476 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have it. There's so many things we walk 477 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: through in this world that are not specifically addressed in 478 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: God's work. But the more we know his voice and 479 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: are in tune with His spirit, the better equipped we 480 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: are for a million situations that are not specifically dressed 481 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: in God's word because we've been in His word that morning. 482 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: Ay Man John Tan Jesus says, my sheep hear my voice, 483 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: and I know them. They follow me. If you need 484 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: to get a hold of me for any reason, go 485 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: to cameo dot com slash Granger Smith. In fact, I 486 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: just literally got a message from Cameo that says a 487 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: guy named Ian now has a request for me. So 488 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: what I do is I open this up and I 489 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: go check out what Ian wants me to say for him. 490 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: And for this it is a happy birthday to Melinda. 491 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: So I will reach out to Melinda. I say happy Birthday. 492 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: It's Granger Smith here. I hope you have an amazing day. 493 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell her what else that I have 494 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: here on the little list that Ian has given me, 495 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: and then I send it back to him and then 496 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: he has a video message from me that then goes 497 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: out to Melinda. It's really cool. It's super easy. I've 498 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: been doing this for about six years now. So if 499 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: you want to find me and get a special video 500 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: message of any kind, go to cameo dot com slash 501 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Granger Smith. Yeah, this is beautiful stuff. What not to 502 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: do is the emotional approach. This is one example on 503 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: the chapter of what not to do, the emotional approach. 504 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: What feels good to me. So let's let the Bible 505 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: dictate and tewod Timothy three to sixteen doesn't say so 506 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: that the Man of God may be almost mature or 507 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: almost complete in addition to what he gets from the 508 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: world or what he gets from other things. It's we 509 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: have everything we need right here. Let's go to memorize. 510 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: This is the the next m. 511 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: The reason I'm meditate and memorize together on that M 512 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: and this acrostic is because well, one I think memorization 513 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: is probably the most practical way that we can meditate 514 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: on scripture, like to make it so internal to us 515 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: that it's just a part of us. Like to memorize 516 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: a verse so that it just flows out of you, 517 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: like it's hidden in a saw A one nineteen kind 518 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: of way in your mind and in your heart at 519 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: that point. And so I I mean this is without question. 520 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about how just reading, meditating on 521 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: the Bible is like a core discipline that drives everything 522 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: in the Christian life. I would say memorization of scripture 523 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: has had more of a formative influence in my life 524 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: as a spiritual discipline than just about any other because 525 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't want. 526 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: To disconnect that from prayer. 527 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: But it's just for God's word to literally fill your 528 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: mind and your heart in such a way that it 529 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: is a part of you. It just flows out of you. 530 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: It transforms your prayer life, it transforms your relationships to 531 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: be able to encourage others with the Word because it's 532 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: hidden in you and it just flows out of you. 533 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the things when when Deuteronomy 534 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: four and six talk about like when you walk along 535 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: the road and when you sit by the way and 536 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: when you lie down, when you wake up, let's be 537 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: talking about the word. Well, how can you do that 538 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: if you don't have the word in you, Like, it's 539 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: not just when you're carrying the word around you. It 540 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: transforms your prayer life. You get into the heart of 541 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit and a passage when you memorize it. 542 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: So I just I definitely want to encourage as we 543 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: meditate on scripture. One way too meditate on it is 544 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: to memorize and to have an intentional plan for memorizing scripture. 545 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: And many people will say, oh, I'm just not very 546 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: good at memorization. And that's one of the things I 547 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: try to walk through in the book, like you can 548 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: memorize Someone nineteen talks about how God's word is more 549 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: valuable than thousands of gold and silver pieces. Like if 550 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: I gave you a thousand for every verse you can 551 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: memorize over the next twenty four hours, I'm guessing anybody 552 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: can learn to memorize pretty quick. Because so that's the question, 553 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: what's more important us, money or God's word? 554 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: So you make the argument work. You start this this argument. 555 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: What you're saying right now, children in Afghanistan and Pakistan 556 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: today are attending Muslim schools and memorizing the entire Quran 557 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: by the time they're thirteen years old. Many of these 558 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: children speak different languages Pashto, Urdu, but they are memorizing 559 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: the Koran in its original language, Arabic, and they have 560 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: the full collective support of their parents and their communities, 561 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: and they learn these words of their so called God. 562 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: And then you make the argument, can you imagine a 563 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: children's ministry in church today teaching children to memorize the 564 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: entire New Testament in Greek and then they move on 565 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: to the Old Testament in Hebrew. We might say that's impossible, 566 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: we can't even do this in English. 567 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: Such a. 568 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: That's such a good quote. 569 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and it is possible for like us too. Yeah 570 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: to Now I'm sitting here, what's going through my mind? 571 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: Like I was just with a brother last night who's 572 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: memorized the whole New Testament, like he the whole thing, 573 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: and and and various books in the Old Testament. And 574 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: this brother, he's so humble, loves the Lord, just walks 575 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: with God. I'm not saying everybody is going to do that, 576 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: but the beauty is everybody, with the rare exceptions, the 577 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: rare exceptions can hide God's word in our heart in 578 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: some way, in a way that I promise will transform 579 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: your life when you do. So. That's that's why I 580 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: think memorization is really important. 581 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you start, you send the book just one verse, 582 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: Start with one verse. You're not saying memorize fifty Start 583 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: with one verse. 584 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell I use the illiteration. I think. I 585 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: always think about this one brother in our church, we 586 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: were we were walking through we were I was preaching 587 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: through First John, and so we challenged the church to 588 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: memorize the first chapter First John. And this brother, I 589 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: don't think he'd really ever memorize scripture at all, and 590 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: he was like, I mean a whole chapter. I'm gonna 591 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: try it. So he started doing it with his son, 592 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: and his teenage son. They would work on it on 593 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: the drive to school in the morning, and so they 594 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: did it. They memorized the whole first chapter of First 595 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: John together, and they were and the dad was like, 596 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: this is amazing. I cannot believe this. I just did this. 597 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: I did this with my son. And his son was like, 598 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: we're not stopping here, are we. And so they ended 599 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: up memorizing the whole book. They just kept going every morning, 600 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: and I mean this yeah, and this is just average 601 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: ordinary dude who just his taste buds started changing, and 602 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: not just his his teenage son's taste buds started changing. Like, 603 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: there's no question they do not regret memorizing the Book 604 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: of First John. They went on a journey together that 605 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: was transformative in their lives. 606 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: Credible man. So how about apply chapter five? Apply? 607 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is another way if like, what does 608 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: James one say, everyone who hears these words, oh, well, 609 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: well that's Matthew seven. Everyone who hears these words of 610 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: mind it does not put them in practice. Is like 611 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: a man who built his house on with no foundation. 612 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: It's going to crash when the storm comes. And then 613 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: James one says, don't deceive yourselves by just reading the 614 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: word and not doing what it says. So you realize, 615 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: wait a second, just to hear Jesus' words it can 616 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: actually be deceptive and can lead to your life crashing. 617 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 1: So not just reading, we must obey the word, do 618 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: what it says. Everyone who hears on these words of 619 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: mine and puts them into practice. So that's where apply is. 620 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: I just kind of use a framework to think through 621 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: how does God's word change the way we think, the 622 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: way we feel, the way we act, the way we 623 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: relate to the people around us, and then just the 624 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: way we view our whole purpose in the world. And 625 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: it's so good to yeah, whenever we are meditating on 626 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: scripture then to say, okay, how does this how does 627 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: this change me? Like not just read it? If that's 628 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: all we do and we kind of turn off the 629 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: phone or you know, put the devo aside, then we 630 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: were actually deceiving ourselves. We've got to do what it says. 631 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: So how does this change me? From the inside out? 632 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: And so that's that's the whole purpose of diving into 633 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: that a apply. 634 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good man. That gets us to pray, 635 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: which is you mentioned earlier you said, I don't want 636 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: to disconnect prayer, and I could. I but you we 637 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: could also make the argument that without these these without 638 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: meditate and memorize and even apply prayer, life is very difficult. 639 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: We almost have nothing to pray at that. 640 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: Point, yes, yeah, and well, and Jesus says this, this 641 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: is John fifteen. He says, if you abide in me 642 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: and my words abide in you, then ask whatever you 643 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: wish will be given to you. So so actually, our 644 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: prayer life asking is supposed to be based on His 645 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: words and that are abiding in us. So and this 646 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: is where I that's what I love about. And I 647 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: walked to a whole another acrosstic with pray, just praise, repent, 648 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: and ask ill based on what we've heard in the Word. 649 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: But when you think about there's so many things that 650 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: we pray for that we we don't know how God's 651 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: going to answer like we ask. Like I just think 652 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: about somebody I was praying for this morning for healing, 653 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Like I don't know for sure if God is gonna 654 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: heal this person in this particular way at this particular time. 655 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that. But I have in God's Word 656 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: that I'm reading every day scores of things that I 657 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: know if I pray for this, that I'm praying according 658 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: to the will of God and particularly for my own life. 659 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: Like I mean, yeah, I go back to some one 660 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: twelve what we were talking about earlier. As I'm praying, God, 661 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: I pray that you would free me from fear of 662 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: bad news. That I pray for a heart that is 663 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: firm and trusting in You. I know that's a prayer 664 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: God desires to answer, will answer as I ask him 665 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: for because I'm asking according to His word in that 666 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: way in my life. And then to pray that for 667 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: others lives. God, I pray for this person or that person, 668 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: my family or whoever else, they would not be afraid 669 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: about it. I know I'm praying according to God's will 670 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: what God wants for that person. And so yeah, I 671 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: think this is where to your point, our prayer life 672 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: devoid of the Word, really misses the whole point of prayer. 673 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: Prayer is dependent on God's revealed word to us. It 674 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: leads us to praise Him for who he is, to 675 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: repent of different things as we're reading through God's Word, 676 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: to repent of sin as we're convicted by it, and 677 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,959 Speaker 1: then to ask him all kinds of things. That's where 678 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: even started a while back, just a little five minute 679 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: podcast called Pray the Word, because it's all based on 680 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: it's really just the overflow of my quiet time. But 681 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 1: it's just what I'm doing each day as I'm reading 682 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: through Isaiah and Salms today, just praying based on what's 683 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: in the Word, and then to yield and say, God, 684 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: help me to obey your word today. 685 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 2: And all these ways that I looked at and apply 686 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 2: and then, man, that's so helpful. It also really helps 687 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 2: if your prayer life is feeling stagnant or you're kind 688 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: of you feel like you're being too repetitive and you 689 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: and and you're you're losing the depth of it. You 690 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: could pray from your morning reading. One of my favorite 691 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 2: seminary professors, Don Whitney, you know, wrote the book Praying 692 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: the Bible and it's he wrote an entire book just 693 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: on this idea to pray what you're reading. You could 694 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: find passages, which is what's what's so helpful to move 695 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 2: forward in the Bible every single day and you have 696 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: a fresh word to take and say, you know what, 697 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: I've been stuck. What I'm praying for my mom and 698 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm kind of stuck and what to pray because it's 699 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: the same situation. She's getting the same result and I'm 700 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 2: praying the same thing. But I just read today and 701 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: and in the Psalms that there's this and I can 702 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: I can pray this and over and it transforms your 703 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: prayer life. 704 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: So good man, that's so good, because yeah, I think 705 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: about it, and that's where I even as we talk 706 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: about these kind of different steps that I walk through 707 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: in the book. It really becomes it's it's not like 708 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: it's mechanical, Okay, do this and this and this, because 709 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: like I think about reading Isaiah this morning, and I'm 710 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: getting the verses that are talking about like this was 711 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: God's judgment on the nations uh and and their sin 712 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: and his own people and their sin both and and 713 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: it was talking at one point just about the pride 714 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: of men and God bringing the pride full low and 715 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: God exalting the humble, and so just to read that 716 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: and just pause, and God, please remove pride from me. God, 717 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: I pray for humility. I want humility. I need humility. 718 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: I need forgiveness for my pride. I want deliverance from 719 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: my pride. Again, you're praying according to God's Well, this 720 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: is absolutely what God wants for you. But it's just 721 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: a couple verses that if you're not careful you just 722 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of skip over. But let it soaka and just 723 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: pray according to it. And then, like you said, I'm 724 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: praying for your mom or whoever it might be. You 725 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: come to some one twelve seven, which I keep going 726 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: back to today. That's I mean, how many people do 727 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: you know who are worried or afraid or anxious about 728 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: any number of things. And so just to spend some 729 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: time praying over people in your life who you know 730 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: might be worried or if you're afraid or anxious about 731 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: other things, like it just leads to all kinds of 732 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: intercession for others based on Gun's work. 733 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 2: So beautiful. You know, I find myself my prayers. It's 734 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 2: pretty tough for me to pray. I'll say it this 735 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: way before I read in the morning, because I just 736 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 2: wake up. My heart's cold as ice, and I just 737 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 2: you know, I get my cup of coffee and put 738 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: on my glasses and I start my reading. And then 739 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, my heart starts warming and that 740 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: ice melts, and then and then and I'm ready then 741 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: to pray. I'm in a position to pray after the 742 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: Lord has spoken to me first. Sometimes we mix it up, 743 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: and it's hard. It's hard to do that. 744 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, man, that's so true. I can 745 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,439 Speaker 1: totally identify with that. And and it makes sense, like, well, 746 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: I what I love about what you just shared. And 747 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: I hope that the sense of what people are hearing 748 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: in this whole conversation is that That's what this is. 749 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: It is. It is a conversation with God like and 750 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: basically what you just said is I find it my 751 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: heart warmed and more easier too, and more engaged in 752 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: speaking to God when I've listened to Him speak to me. 753 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: So this is not this is. 754 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: And that's where the wonder, the wonder of this grangeer 755 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 3: that like we're talking about communion with God, God who 756 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 3: spoke in the world, came into being that this morning 757 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 3: I I was talking to him and he was listening 758 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: to me, and not just listening to me. 759 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: He was talking to me like speaking to my heart, 760 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: and he was he was listening to what I was saying. 761 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm pouring out my arm before him and and He's 762 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: promising to answer according to his word and his power 763 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: and his wisdom. Like communion with God. And obviously it's 764 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: not just being, it's anybody, and it's you, it's anybody 765 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: who trusts in Jesus to restore us to relationship with 766 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: God through it's what Jesus died to make possible for 767 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: us to live in every day. So again it just 768 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: goes back to over your time earlier, why would we 769 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: not like make time for this for communion with God, 770 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: and why would we rush through it, Like, let's set 771 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: aside to the extent that we can just some concentrated 772 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: time to be with Him. 773 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: Amen. So that this would not be an appropriate David 774 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: Platt book if we didn't finish with the es the 775 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 2: share Yeah, tell me about share. 776 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? That this word, I mean everything we're talking about, bro, 777 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: Like it's too good to keep to ourselves like this, 778 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: this word. You find treasure somewhere, Like you don't keep 779 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: that to yourself, you, I mean unless you're like you're 780 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: super selfish, like you share that with others. You spread 781 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: it to others because then that's the beauty. Uh there's 782 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: enough treasure to go around. Uh, so so you spread 783 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: it others. So to be really intentional. That's why like 784 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: this this across it. It's like, okay, really we need 785 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: to emphasize, like the word is not intended to stop 786 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: with us, It's intended to spread through us. So I 787 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: just think about it. I mean, obviously we're having this 788 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: conversation about how to read the Bible, and so my 789 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: Bible reading this morning has come up, but I can 790 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: I think about yesterday there was something else I'd read 791 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: and saw one eleven greater your work, so God studied 792 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: by all those who delight in them. And uh. And 793 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: then I was just about an hour after my time 794 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: in the Lord, I'm talking with this brother and sister in 795 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: Christ and she started talking about something she'd seen in 796 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: creation that just was just had owed her. And I 797 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: was like, this is totally so on lefl first too, 798 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: like it's de lightful to see the work of God creation. 799 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: So all that to say, like, look for opportunities all 800 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: throughout the day to encourage others with the Word and 801 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 1: not you're like you got to prepare a sermon or something. 802 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: This is just for every day. That's the beauty of 803 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: Deuteronomy six. It's just as you walk as you live, 804 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: talk about the word yes with other brothers and sisters 805 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: in Christ, encourage them and your family, your friendships and 806 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: church relationships whoever might be. And then obviously with unbelievers 807 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: to look for opportunities. Again. And this is where I 808 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: would say should be happening in our lives in a 809 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: natural way, not like we have to force it, but 810 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: just to talk about, Yeah, things we are learning about 811 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: life and relationship with God should just flow from us. 812 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: So to be really intentional on the s to share, 813 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: to spread the word with others. 814 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 2: That's so good. So I want to finish with this. 815 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: You you are, You're always busy. You're you're always a 816 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: busy guy. You have a lot of stuff going on, 817 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,959 Speaker 2: but today in particular, let's let's look at today. You're 818 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: you're at a conference TGC. You're in Indianapolis. My wife 819 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: is there too, but you are in a hotel room. 820 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 2: You just came in from from here in Piper Preach. 821 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me how your Bible reading was this morning, 822 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: because this is the kind of morning Practically someone listening 823 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 2: would think, well, this is the morning he skipped reading, 824 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 2: but you didn't. So tell me what was that like? 825 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: Walk me through your morning today. 826 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: I So I'm about to say again, I don't mean 827 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: to sound like over dramatic or just it's like I 828 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: cannot I can't live without bread alone. 829 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 2: That you can't live on bread alone. 830 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: I can't live and I and I say that so 831 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: real quick background, Like I there have been times in 832 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: my life where I've I've tried to live like that 833 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: without that, and times as a pastor like so it's 834 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: not just because I'm a pastor, Like I can point 835 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: to a long season in my life as a pastor where, yeah, 836 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: the church I pastor was growing. I'd read in a 837 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: book that a lot of people were reading. I was 838 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: getting invited to travel to places like this and preach 839 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: all the time. And my I didn't have that time 840 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: of the Lord in the morning. Like I would study 841 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: just to like prepare a sermon, but I wouldn't like 842 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: read the Bible just to know God. And I could 843 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: turn on a public prayer like that, but I just 844 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: I never got alone in a room just to be 845 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: with God. And that's that's frightening to me. Like, how 846 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: so it's don't I wouldn't want anybody just assume, Okay, 847 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: yeah you're a pastor of course, Like no, I've actually experienced, 848 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: like in a really dangerous way, what it's like the 849 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: pastor without walking into the sea with God. And yeah, 850 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: so all that to say, the Lord did some things 851 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: in my life to wake me up big time years 852 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: ago from that that season in my life, and uh 853 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: and ever since then, I can just say, and I'm 854 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: not saying I never ever missed the morning like occasionally, 855 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: but I can't. I can't live with that so yeah, 856 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: this morning, first thing I did woke up. I one 857 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: of the things I talked about in the book. I'm 858 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: big on journaling. I'm just a I can't point to 859 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: a verse that would say you should journal, but it's 860 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: helpful for me to not my mind, keep my mind 861 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: from wandering, to be less distracted. So I just start 862 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: and I don't have like an elaborate system. I just 863 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: have like a running word file for twenty twenty five yep. 864 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: And so this morning it was like April whatever, and 865 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: so it's and I just start just just thanking God 866 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: for grace, for new mercy this morning, and I'm writing 867 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: out a lot of these prayers. Not everything I'm praying 868 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm writing out, but a lot of it. And so 869 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm writing out prayers, and then I start reflecting on 870 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: the day before, just thanking God for different things from 871 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: the day before, praying for people that I interacted with 872 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: the day before, just kind of reflecting on what God 873 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: taught me from the day before, writing out some of 874 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: those things. And then much like you talked about, I 875 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: just dive into the word. And so that's when I 876 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: walk through these verses of these chapters in Isaiah and 877 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: psalms and all on the way, I'm doing what we've 878 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: been talking about, and I in the journal, I'm oftentimes, 879 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: not oftentimes and most all the time. I'm so I'm 880 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: doing a lot of this on my either iPad or 881 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: computer my laptop. So I'm I'm like cutting and pasting, 882 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: copying and pasting from the word into my journals. So 883 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: day eleven one says this about this branch to come 884 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: talking about prophecy of Jesus. So I'm pasting that in 885 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: here and uh and then writing out a prayer based 886 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 1: on that or writing out how this applies my life. 887 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: So I'm doing this. It's just helpful for me to 888 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: be really intentional to write it down. Not saying everybody 889 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: has to do that, but it's helpful for me. So 890 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing that all through and so that's leading to prayer, 891 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: and that's leading to and I would add I do 892 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: it oftentimes with just I've got a playlist that's like 893 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: my quiet time playlist that has just worship songs, and 894 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: it's I love it when whatever song is going on 895 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: just coincides with what I'm reading. Again, it's not over time, 896 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: but there are times when it's like, oh, this is, 897 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: and I just I love I love when I press 898 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: the shuffle button and it just I'm like, Lord, you 899 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: take it wherever you want. And uh and sometimes the 900 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 1: song comes on it's like I need to go past 901 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: that one. It doesn't. But oftentimes it's just like and 902 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: that it happened this morning. And so anyway, have you 903 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: shared that? 904 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: By the way, have you shared that? What's that? That playlist? 905 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: Have you ever shared? 906 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not I show. Yeah, that's a good idea. Well, 907 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: I mean that's I was. Yeah, that's a good idea at. 908 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: Least at least text it to me. 909 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: It's just like the challenge funny side note one time. 910 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really the only playlist I have. And 911 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: so I was running like ten K and I wanted 912 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: to listen to some music. But it's the only playoffs. 913 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: And I'll just say, like my Shane and Shane like 914 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 1: quiet time, it's not what you need to be listening 915 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: to when you're trying to run it down. Ok, it 916 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: doesn't the same way, but anyway, uh yeah, so then 917 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 1: and then uh so that is my time in the 918 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: Lord this morning, and and and then I I do 919 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: have some intentional things I try to pray for on 920 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 1: a daily basis, just from my family and church and 921 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: the world and that sort of thing that's kind of 922 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,959 Speaker 1: tacked on to the Bible reading part. So but yeah, 923 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: that was my time of Lord this morning. 924 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: And how long do you plan to do that in 925 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: your life? 926 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: You mean, like how long per day? Or like how 927 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,720 Speaker 1: long like the rest. 928 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: Of the rest of your life? How long? Yeah? 929 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: I man, I oh like bro. I sat at the 930 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: bedside of a spiritual father of mine in life and ministry, 931 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: just a guy who's had a huge impact from my life, 932 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: Jim Shattocks, And he went to be the Lord a 933 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: couple of months ago after I actually dedicated this book 934 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: to him after a year battle with brain cancer. And 935 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 1: he's he he more than anybody else in my life, 936 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: taught me to love God's word and teach it with 937 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: fear of it. And anyway, I sat by his bed 938 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: like he's hospice. He's hardly able to speak, like just whisper, 939 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just reading verses over him. He's like under 940 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: his breath, he's like finishing the verses. It's just like 941 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: he his his mind, I mean, totally ravaged by brain cancer. 942 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: But the word was hidden so deep and it was 943 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: just flown out of him like he could hardly breathe, 944 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: and the words what's coming out? And I was like God, maybe, 945 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: so like I want to live so that when I've 946 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: gotten hardly even have breath left, your word is is 947 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: still just flowing in me through me. So maybe it's 948 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: like I want I want to live for that day. 949 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: So ah, So your answer to that is every single 950 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: day you have left in this fleeting vapor of a life. 951 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, it's some one, bro, it's it's blessed like happy 952 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: is the one who whose delight is in the law 953 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day 954 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: and night like he will be like a tree planted 955 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: by streams of water. They yield it's fruit in season, 956 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: and all that leaf will not wither, and all that 957 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: he does, he prospers. Like who doesn't want that? Who 958 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 1: doesn't want like true prosperity, not worldly prosperity. Who doesn't 959 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: want true happiness, not fleeting happiness? Who doesn't want like 960 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: your leaf not to wither like fruit from your life? Forever? 961 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: We all want that? 962 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 2: Everyone? 963 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: So what how do you do it? Meditate on this 964 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: word day and night, every day, every night like meditate. 965 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: It no better way to end this podcast than that, 966 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: right there, Bro, Thank you. 967 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: Bro, it's been delightful and tell you about this all 968 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: day long and just and so grateful for you and 969 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: the fruit of your life towards this end, and a 970 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: lot of other people's lives who I know are yeah, 971 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: pursuing God, walking with Him through his word as a 972 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: result of the fruit of His word in your life. 973 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 1: So praise God for sharing and that's how that's happening 974 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: in and through you. 975 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,879 Speaker 2: Praise the Lord. Well, thank you brother, And how fun 976 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: at that conference. Yeah, thanks for joining me on the 977 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. You could 978 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 2: help me out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If 979 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 2: you're on YouTube, subscribe to this channel, hit that little 980 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,919 Speaker 2: like button and notification spell so that you never miss 981 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 2: anytime I upload a video. 982 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: Yigi