WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: A Preseason L? It Doesn’t Matter! 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:07.320 The following. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.319 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:19.320 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:26.760 Training Live from Dallas Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, Calix 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.000 Seconds dot Tizon, Contown. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:37.120 And now your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.080 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:46.919 Welcome back to Talking Cowboys Live from training camp in Ostar, California. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.519 I'm here with Patrick Walker, I'm here with Clarencehillo the 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.240 fort Worst Star Telegram. I'm here with Christopher Beemer in 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.840 the background. I'm Josh Rodriguez. Kyle Yeomans is not here, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.120 Isaiah Standback is not here, but we will be reunited 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.800 once again once we get back home. Anyways, Boys, we 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.080 had a game yesterday. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:02.640 We did. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.520 We had a football game yesterday. Yes How do we 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:07.759 feel well? 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:09.840 I mean, first and foremost, I think it's it's no 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.400 secret I don't give a damn about wins and losses 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:14.520 in the preseason feelers. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.240 I don't give a damn. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.200 Even a last second heartbreaker, even last second heartbreaker at 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.759 the hands of a two time national champion. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.480 Instead submitted, I don't care. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.800 I really don't care what I care about is the 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.680 Cowboys leaving these preseason matchups completely whole and healthy. Unfortunately, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.840 they did suffer an injury yesterday, which we'll get to 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.759 in a second. But I also care about evaluation. I'm 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.080 evaluating these guys, uh and the Cowboys put a lot 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.080 of players on the field yesterday that gave us a 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:43.960 lot to evaluate. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:44.840 So that's what I'm excited. 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.480 Yeah, preseason never boy wins and losses. You know, we 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.120 famously remember the nineteen eighty nine Cowboys. They went four 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.120 and and then then. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:56.840 It was they. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.120 Were winning the Super Bowl. Jimmy and Jerry's first year. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.440 They were trying to win preseason games and no one cares. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.920 Or the Windless Lions, you know, they went winless. They 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.440 went four and on the preseason went on sixteen. So 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.200 the the ultimate outcome of the game doesn't matter. It's 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.040 how they play and what you see on the field. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.960 Evaluation of the players, development, the players that are not 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.000 necessarily trying to win games, they're trying to put them 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.360 in situations so you can evaluate. And we got guys 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.160 in the situations. You got guys on the field who 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.519 had we hadn't seen since last season, and so that's 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.400 what you're supposed to take from. Certainly the Preachts and 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.600 Opener back in the olden days. I'm old now, you know, 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.960 they did have their dressing hurts for the season. We 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.440 had the starters go out there in the third preseason 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.359 game and play a half, and you want to see 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.440 how they look. They don't do that anymore. Just you know, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.480 like that guy's played the Prestons since twenty nineteen, you know, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.320 and that's you're not gonna see DeMarcus Lawrence any and 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.000 the starters in the preseason. So it's really about watch 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.880 look at these young guys and taking kind of seeing 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.640 how they're develop and how they can handle these situations. 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:00.880 Well, before we start breaking on the game, I want 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.040 to get to some Cowboys news notes and injury updates. Patrick, 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:04.840 what do you have for us? 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.760 Well, let's first start with because I don't believe we 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.800 had a show since the Cowboys executed that trade. So 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.040 by now you obviously know, ladies and gentlemen. Cornerback Nasehn Wright, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.519 former third round pick of the Dallas Cowboys, has been 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.480 sent to Minnesota and the Vikings in exchange for former 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.519 second round pick Andrew Booth out of Clemson two time 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:26.360 All acc talent, and basically you should look at that 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.320 the same way you looked at last year's trade between 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.120 the Dolphins and the Cowboys Kelvin Joseph the South Florida 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.120 in exchange for Noah Igbonoghany. That was more so a 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.840 special teams thing. This is the same with the addition 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.640 of Booth, will have a chance to compete behind Jordan 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.480 Lewis with guys like Eric Scott, Josh Butler, Kemon Hall 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.160 for that nickel role. But it also tells me that 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.800 they are big on what they're seeing with Kayln Carson 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.920 on that outside boundary protection here in Campain. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.560 They should be because he is excelling. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.960 Injury news, Cowboys came out mostly whole, as I stated 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:00.680 at the top of the show, but they did suffer 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.520 one injury that we are aware of right now. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:03.000 Chill. 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.120 He started the game against the Rams in the preseason opener. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.960 He left with he left the stadium in a boot. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.640 I'm being told that it's the big toe on his 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.000 left foot. TBD on if he's going to be available 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.160 for the next preseason game or when he will be 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.599 available back in practice, So of course that thrust rookie 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.599 first round picked. Tyler got in to the front of 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.000 that line and he looked sensational and only twenty one snaps. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.640 Yesterday, I'm glad you I was worried about you pronounced 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:35.760 that Noah's names. I'm gladogayh yeah yeah right, yeah, it 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.480 took it took a lot of practice. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.080 That that media guy that has that's that. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.719 Yeah, there you go. That trade was about trading somebody 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.760 one disappointment for another disappointment. It's like last year, somebody's 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:53.440 trash for somebody that's without thee respect with due respect 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.360 was last year. Neither one of those guys on the 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.960 team they were traded for. You know, Bland is not with. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.920 The dog I mean, with all due respect insert disrespect. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.080 From the states out here. But but but that, but 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.760 that's what I mean. It's disappointment. Okay, draft, But how 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.160 do you want to call it? They did not live 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.039 up the expectations with their current team, and so they're 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.560 trying to see and then but you know, the guy 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.760 that the Cowboys got back was a higher pick and 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.760 so you know you want to and he's a higher 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.039 pick and you want to see what he has. He 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.520 has you know, another year on his contract. Uh. Regarding 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.240 the injury, to mean just can't stay healthy and he 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.520 has not been healthy since has been here. But let's 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.239 be honest, stop the charade. This raid should have been stopped. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.120 I would go ahead, stop. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.479 Bangate off and put the young guy out there. It 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.640 should have been done. Okay? Can I say that should 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:45.120 have been done? 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.880 Should be the starting left We know the starter. You 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.160 got to earn the star man. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.800 I mean, I just don't understand why they do that sometimes, 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.520 especially with the first round pick. Put the dude out there. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.000 We didn't do that with macal Parsons. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.600 Well, we're not doing that with Cooper Baby, not doing that. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:07.960 With round pick. You said, it's two different things. He 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.960 still has to learn how to snap. But you drafted 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.080 this guy in the first round to replace Tyron Smith 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.600 as your left tackle. Put him out there, let him 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.640 get some some chemistry and all that stuff with Tylan Smith. 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.279 Stopping the charade, and I hate when coaches do that. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.520 Stop the charade and not to not to compare the players. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.080 Was a rookie, they didn't do that. 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:28.640 Well did they do that to Tyrone Smith? 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:29.280 No? 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:30.560 He was automatic. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.080 I mean, it's a long time ago. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:38.600 Yes, yes, listen, I wanted to be clear because I'm 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.200 all about receipts. If you go back to I want 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.839 to say May June, one of those episodes on the 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.560 junior varsity show Cowboys Break, I actually said that, and 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.000 it's it's on there, it's on video. I said that, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.160 before it's all said and done, I believe Tyler guy 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.599 and would be the starting left tackle for the Cowboys 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:56.000 Week one. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.160 Of course, all said fort Saw said, hello. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.720 That's what's on draft day. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:03.680 I agree with you. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.440 I agree that being said, I also know, I also 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.880 know that the Cowboys and offensive line coach Mike Clarry, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.040 their old school ball coaches, they did want him to 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.360 earn the Star. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.880 My point being, there are a lot of Cowboys fans. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.400 Who were asking there's a lot of Cowboys fans who 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.160 were asking the question, will he be ready? Tyler got 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.280 in as far as the transitioning left tackle, that was 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.280 the bigger question. Not necessarily would he be, but would 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.240 he be ready for that role? And my answer was yes, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.160 back in June, and out here we are in August 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.960 having the conversation, and how you feel the problem. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.200 Here is that it's not about him earning the Star 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.960 what is what is done to earn the start at all? 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:45.360 Say? 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.120 And I agree, but that's the problem, is problem with 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.559 the mindset he needs to earn it. What is Chuma 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.200 done to earn it? 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.360 I'm just saying that's the tradition. I agree with. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.720 The trad be different with a veteran star. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.960 I'm not like I don't like Cranberry so was a veteran, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.880 but it'll be there everything. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:04.560 But Tuma's done nothing, has never been a starter, never 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.680 been a start on this team. He does not have it. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.400 Why does he have, like, you know, old school you 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.960 know credit, He don't get no old school credit. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.520 Old school ball coach will likely always give the nod 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.160 going into a camp to a veteran and that's basically 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.560 what you're looking at with that dynamic. But even without 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.880 Tuma battling health issues, I was of the full belief 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.520 that Tyler got in would transition quickly to left tackle 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.120 or back to left tackle, because it's not as if 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.560 he hasn't played that before. Back to left tackle, and 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.640 he's done that, and kudos to that young man. Because 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.440 this summer was spent working with our good friend Duke 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.760 Miniweather and oil masterminds back in Frisco. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.680 It was working every day getting it done. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.800 He didn't take a time off, he didn't go on 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.760 a vacation to celebrate making it to the team that 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.880 he's been a lifelong fan of. He was working and 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.080 it's showing out. It's showing up out here in camping. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.280 It showed up in his limited reups against the Reum, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:57.800 and it. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.360 Should just go back. I mean, that's why we put 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.880 so much attention on first round picks. When they don't play, Okay, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.400 give him every chance to play. Can we go back 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.600 to Bobby Carpenter? You know he wasn't he didn't start. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.839 You know, when they don't play, you know. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.800 That's a that's an indicative indication that you know, this. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.080 Guy whatever, if he ain't earned it and you don't 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.800 put him out to play, give me every chance to 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.600 be successful a guy you invested in the first round picking. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.559 That's say red flag. Yeah, that's I mean, you go, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.520 That's why Mozzie's under the microscope this year. That's why 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.959 Taco charge got so much, you know, brought up to 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.240 I'm just saying when when Orlando scandals started in front 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.120 of the first round pick, that was a problem back 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.280 in what oh seven, whatever that was? You know your 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.120 your first round pick is supposed to come out of play. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:44.840 Absolutely give him a chance to play. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.959 We saw him yesterday. We saw him yesterday take some 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.520 limited snaps. What did we see out of Tyler got 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.760 in snaps? Limited snaps? 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:52.520 You know what for? 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.760 Uh, for a guy that missed the previous several practices 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.640 with an illness, for a guy that wasn't one hundred 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.600 healthy from that illness when taking the field yesterday, and 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.840 to see him escorting gentlemen out of the club on 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.120 certain plays. One play in particular, Cowboys second drive, third 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.520 and ten, Trey Lance get sprung off to the left side, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.760 nineteen yard game, third down conversion. Go back and look 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.640 at that play and watch Tyler guy and absolutely walk 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.000 his guy five yards in the other direction to. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:22.640 Clear that lane. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.440 This is a guy that didn't feel well yesterday and 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.160 didn't practice several practices before. And if that's what you're 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.160 gonna get from this young man at eighty percent capacity 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.680 when he's fully healthy, which he will be here soon, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.000 imagine what that looks like. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.840 Yeah, he was on a pitch count, you know, missed 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.040 a few days in practice because of you know, illness. 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:45.360 You know, they held him out of scrimmage, and certainly 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.719 his conditioning was an issue, but when he was on 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.560 the field, he was lights out. He did not have 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:50.160 a bad rep. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.160 He did not did not have a single ball or 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.960 twenty one reps and each one of those were positive reps. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.679 Now, looking on the other side of the things, well, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.000 just down the line, basically Cooper BB had some snaps 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.280 as well at the backup center position. How do we 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.880 feel about Cooper BB and are the expectations kind of 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.760 coming down a little bit for Cooper BB. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.319 I don't think the expectations are coming down. I think 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.960 he's training in the right direction. Yeah, if you look 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.120 at his snaps yesterday, and for those of us that 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.760 have been in camp from day one, compare what his 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.400 snaps looked like day one and training camp versus what 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.319 they looked like on yesterday. He's getting more comfortable. Is 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.160 he as comfortable as brock Kaffman there making those snaps? 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.360 Not quite yet, which is why brock Kaffman is still 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.600 the starter as we have this conversation. But this Cooper 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.320 BB making strides in that category. Absolutely he is. And 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.000 one thing he doesn't necessarily need to make strides in 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.560 is being able to block and hold anchor and stay 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.120 in front of guys that looked fantastic yesterday. So still 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.760 working on the snaps with the blocking is there. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.400 Well, that's just it. I mean, Brock Hobblin, the cowboy 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.120 know what he is. He is what he is, ye right, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.400 you know, and he's certainly the head of Cooper now 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.960 because Cooper's basically transmitted to a new position. But as 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.880 Stephen Jones told me last week, the boys know last 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.080 week and as you've seen throughout the cap, Cooper's rising. Yep, okay, 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.840 guy's gonna be I mean, I got him. But Harbin's 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.839 gonna be here. Cooper's rising, and will he catching by 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.959 the time Steven starts with to catch him by the 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.520 third game of the season, We'll see. But Cooper's rising. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.559 The upside is there, and that's why you draft him 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.880 the third round because at the upside you knew from 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.360 day one he was not gonna be, you know, a 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.480 finished product as a center. For the first time, snapping 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.840 with your mama is different, you know. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.559 First of all, Yeah, we're not gonna pretend mama BV 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.440 can't take the can't take a shotgun snap. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.240 She's proved he can't. But it's not about her. It's 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.360 about what's in front of you. Okay, snaps with the 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.400 big uglies is they say breathing down your neck, you know, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.920 And in either of a game, it's different snapping in 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:45.400 the backyard. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.360 Ain't nobody rest what. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.840 You worked on it. So that's good. It was great video, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.400 but it's not the same and we've seen that out 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.320 of here. So's had problem with some of the snaps 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.800 and stuff because of that. But it's about getting. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.079 Comfortable, absolutely. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.840 And I also add to this, keep in mind, and 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.599 I've said this before, keep saying it, Cooper BB was 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.520 a gift. He was a gift the Cowboys were able 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.040 to flip their late right, well, able to flip that 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.120 late first round pick. You got Tyler gout and you 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.760 got Cooper b b out of that deal. So kind 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.840 of to what Clarence is saying. As far as the 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.760 pressure that's on a guy like Tyler got in first 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.960 round pick, it's not necessarily on Cooper BB number one. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.199 He's a third round pick, number two. He was acquired 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.280 in the trade, so he's that added pick, right, So 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.440 there's a little bit of time there's some grace there 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.480 as far as the first several weeks, maybe even the 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:29.880 first full season for Cooper BB. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:31.800 But he's trending in the right direction. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.720 Like Clarence said, the coaches agree the eye the eye tests, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.880 he's passing it. As far as that trajectory, he just 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.000 needs to continue to work on. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.679 And what's also true is this, the Cowboys are comfortable 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:46.160 playing with Hoffman at center. They're not comfortable playing with 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.679 Odoga at center. Let's be honest about that. That's not 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.120 gonna be whening now. Hoffman is not you know, obviously 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:52.839 he's never gonna be a Pro Bowl He's not that 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.439 type of center, but he's solid enough to play with. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.440 You know, you're not gonna be playing with you modogas 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.480 center protecting Dak Prescott's blind side. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.640 I think as long as you're you're improving over the 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.920 center play of last season and the season before that, 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.960 I think over. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.679 The center played one the first year. I mean, I mean, 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.920 I don't know if you're gonna get that long term 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.400 potential is there, But to say that you're gonna be 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.880 better than Tyler Beads immediately, I don't know that Hoffman 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.040 is better. I don't know that Cooper BB would be 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.880 better as a rookie, but potentially over the you know, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.840 his career. I think Cooper BB has a bigger upside 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.800 for sure. That's what the Cowboys are banking. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:34.400 On well right now. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:39.280 And if you look back to the transition from Connor 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.080 Williams slash Connor McGovern to Tyler Baddish and now the 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.080 transition from Tyler Baddish to whomever it might be ultimately 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.280 brought off in Cooper BB. I do believe long term 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.880 it'll be Cooper bev. Will that be an instant transition, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.040 I don't As far as instant upgrade, I don't know 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.680 that that's necessarily the case. Is it possible, Yes, it's possible, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:01.080 especially because yeah, that's the goal. And brought Hoffman's credit. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.360 He has the demeanor, right, he absolutely has the demeanor. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.320 It it'd be good. I don't know if he has 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.320 the demeanor to be better than Beata's. Okay, that that's 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:09.400 I mean, that's two different. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.760 Which which version of the step back last year or 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:13.960 the Pro Bowl because we're talking two different versions of. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.880 I don't know, because he didn't beat in my last year, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.720 you know, and and so I don't know that. I mean, 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.560 you're talking about the guy that has never been given 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.080 that opportunity, was not drafted for that opportunity. Agree the 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.520 fact that what he's doing is already a bonus for 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.840 his career. No one expected out of him, So let's 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:32.640 not let's not. 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.880 Yeah, let's just not coordinate him right now. What you're saying, I'm. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.840 Glad you bought Connor Williams up because it's funny because 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.640 if the Cowboys would have had the foresight and move 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:42.960 Connor to center earlier. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.040 HM sounds like a discussion for another show when the 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:48.600 special guest. 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.400 Absolutely, all right, boys, we got to take our first 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.640 break when we come back. We got to talk about 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.800 Trey Lance. We got to talk about Trey Lance's performance 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.720 and some more game breakers from the game last night 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.000 or yesterday. 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Quaker Oats 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:19.440 bring out the. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:24.400 Good pause every single time. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:25.879 Did you get your Oats? In Claire. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.560 Yeah, I don't eat healthy like that. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.200 You're supposed to be like, Yeah, I got the old 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:36.920 Clarence for breakfast. Ohts absolutely bring out the good I. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.880 Don't really eat breakfast. I should, but I don't eat. 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:40.520